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Mission is a good friend, but a better slave, just like Vette. Every twi'lek is better as a slave.

>>96260698 (OP)
What would be some interesting kyber crystal gimmicks?

>>96260712
>old characters
Is there anyone who actually likes Maz Kanata.
All the other old people are dead by now, right? Or is JarJar still alive?

>>96260758
Well, Temura has been begging for work only yesterday, so we know they don't mean Boba Fett.
Aside from him, there's... Uh... Maybe it's Ahsoka. Granny Ahsoka. Or Cad Bane. Who else is out there?

>>96260776
Palpatine is probably still around. Somehow.

>>96260781
Well, maybe him. He could be Valkorion of the nu-Wars. He gets atomized, but returns as a sentient cancer. Not a tumor, but like the concept of cancer.
Maybe they could bring back Kylo Ren. Or even Luke. He wasn't dead, he was on a force vacation, temporarily ascended to a higher plane of existence.

>>96260712
go to /tv/ with this shit I want to talk about games and shitpost star wars is depressing enough already

>>96260557
The Force Awakens is badly written but it's competently directed. I'll give JJ at least that.
>>96260649
I agree that the sequels could have been salvaged at that point. It just would have required leaning into the curve rather than trying to redirect the trilogy the third movie in. Hell- just don't bring back Palpatine, it's not that hard- even Colin Trevorrow didn't make that mistake. I think the Duel of Fates script had problems, but at least it wasn't obliterating the trilogy.

Still baffles me someone was stupid enough to fire Henry Cavil from the Witcher, what are those guys smoking.

I just beat Jed: Survivor, what are /tg/'s thoughts on it?

>>96260821
It really does mog the 3D one.

>>96260649
>I actually have decided that TLJ was not that terrible.
>Yes, it's absolutely goddamn awful,
Maybe make up your minnnd? Anyway, it was absolute dogshit, in every way you care to llook at it.
>it didn't single-handedly kill Star Wars.
No, bit it proved that Disney was too retarded to writee a story in a consistent universe. After TFA it MIGHT have been salvageable.
After TLJ, it was not. Solo ws also bad, but it truly bombed because of TLJ.

The shows, well. Mando S1 and S2 weere good, to OK. BoBF was an utter desaster, and Kenobi was a disgrace. Neeither Obi-Wan nor Anakin deserved that.
Mmando S3 ended that thing on a whimper, partly because they mixed it with BoBF.

Yes, it was not just one single strike, it was death by a thousand incompetent writers. But TLJ was the first very visible blow.

>>96260698 (OP)
>You sick fuck edition
Explain

>>96260945
she's 14

>>96260915
>Henry Cavil
I haven't liked him in anything I've seen him in.
He has this weird ability to seem like a smug asshole regardless of what he says or does, and I think it's because his eyes are always a step behind, like a sociopath observing your reaction to his smile before he continues on with the rest of his act. This is particularly true in any promotional material I've seen him in, where he goes out of his way to try and seem like a nice guy "in real life" and that makes it even worse.

He's like the polar opposite of Geralt in the games, who says things like a complete asshole but still manages to come off as likable, down-to-earth, genuine and honest.

>>96260955
Out of 10!

>>96260974
>file name
We'll get 'em next time!

>>96260995
By that standard you could fuck a newborn with how little legality means in that galaxy.

>>96260936
Solo's entirely innoffensive. It's also not comparable to the sequel trilogy because it's an actual movie that has a coherent beginning and end to it. The two spinoffs were massively better because their directors knew where they had to end the films owing to them being prequels- unlike the sequels which were spinning plates in the air. I blame mostly JJ Abrams for this though- because he had to land the thing, and he thinks his job is to fundamentally trick you into buying movie tickets, and after he's done that his job is over.
>>96260970
I don't know what you're talking about. Every interview I've seen him in to me portays him as a scrawny nerd that was mis-assigned underwear model at birth.

Man just has terrible luck when it comes to his casting. He clearly can portray a lot of charisma, that Snyder completely failed to take advantage of. I wish him all the luck in the world with the WH40K show he's been doing.

>>96260995
If I had been Ezra, I'd have absolutely fallen to the dark side for that green milf.

She looks just like my pervy history teacher in sophomore year of high school. You know, but an alien.

>>96261109
This is a setting where slavery is legal (for both droids and organics), the bad guys make bigger and bigger weapons to commit genocide more efficiently, and child-soldiers are a broadly accepted as a tool of war by all sides.

But yes. THAT'S where we'll draw the line.

>>96260923
I liked it, but its not as good as Fallen Order. Liked Nova Garon as a base though.

>>96260923
I've thought that it has two villains that are cool in concept, but neither of them is developed enough. Bode and Dagan Gera should have been a single character called Dagan Gera, who starts out as your ally and then betrays you.

>>96260698 (OP)
Saga all the way. Jedi Academy Training Manual and the KOTOR Campaign Guide alone make it best

>>96261109
Bud, the Galaxy is fucked up to literal Hell, I'm sure places like Nar Shadda don't give a damn what you're doing.

>>96261142
I feel it's not as tight as the original. There the first and last boss are Trilla, you feel like you are racing against the Empire there, and ultimately they catch you.

Now the have the other inquisitor as first boss- fair enough they brought her back. But they introduce the raiders as mysterious new villains, find out we have an ancient evil Jedi we've awoken, and that's not the final boss.

I do think Bode being a double agent was good, and him being a secret evil Jedi is way better- he does a great job of acting like a yahoo without the slightest understanding of the force. But he's only set up as an antagonistic force in the third act. If he'd been a second-act twist villain it would have worked.

But the Dagan Gera plotline, while good, feels disconnected with it being dispatched pretty easy. Rayvis and Dagan get good boss-fights, but I was figuring we should have gotten the final battle on Tanalore with Dagan. Then after that complicate things with the Empire and Bode. Kind of like in Uncharted 4 you get to the treasure at the end, and then fight over who gets to keep it (essentially).

Maybe expand Coruscant a bit for more info on Bode and the ISB there.

>>96261115
>pervert
>history teacher
Could you tell if she had a passion for a particular type of history, or was it just a job to her?

>>96260698 (OP)
I like this OP. This is a good OP.

>>96261110
>I don't know what you're talking about.
That's probably just you being gay and basic.
And it's not luck with casting. He just doesn't have any real charisma; people keep saying he has it and also that he should have it, but it just never manifests itself. He's like an advertised product that consistently fails to deliver, but people keep saying it has to be good because it's got a brand name attached to it.

>>96260753
Kyber crystal is tsundere for you and only works when it wants to and totally not when you need it, baka.

>>96261191
>And it's not luck with casting. He just doesn't have any real charisma; people keep saying he has it and also that he should have it, but it just never manifests itself. He's like an advertised product that consistently fails to deliver, but people keep saying it has to be good because it's got a brand name attached to it.
He's immensely charismatic in the Witcher. 11/10's the entire way through.

>>96261173
She loved ancient Mesopotamia, particularly the sordid and grisly aspects of their history. On one occasion, she read to the class the infamous passage by Herodotus about the temple prostitutes of Babylon. On another occasion, she read us quotes from the Assyrian king Ashurnasirpal about all the flayings and beheadings and so forth he had committed against his enemies. In short, she was a based teacher.

>>96261362
>There is a star wars slop fan besides me knows who herodotus is

>>96261362
She sure sounds that way. She wouldn't have been a perfect 10 for highschool me, but from how you describe her she would have been plenty for me to be willing to jump at that age too, if she'd given me a window.

>>96260698 (OP)
>Thread Questions: Saga, FFG or WEG?
WEG's got the best system but it's old as hell and missing some of the best eras and rather black and white in its approach.
Saga's got the best material, but an asinine D&D munchkinnery-is-mandatory system.
FFG is kinda meh, not great not terrible on both regards, uses dogshit proprietary dice, but it's newest with support for Filoni/Mouse Wars.

>>96261589
>reading herodotus instead of Thucydides
baka my head

>>96261659
I haven't read him yet but I've been meaning to, I was going to get his stuff on the Peloponnesian war.

>>96261930
it's actually so good, highly recommend it

>>96261946
Cool, what sets him apart so much? Are you a greekaboo like me? I boner for Homer. If you are I'd be curious as to what your favourite star wars shit is.

>>96261977
History of the Peloponnesian war is so much more grounded than Herodotus' histories is in my opinion. I am kinda a greek weeb I wrote my dissertation on Greek myth and its passage and transformation into what would become Christianity. Fave star wars shit is Kotor 2 and the little bit of the FFG system i've played. To be honest I just saw someone mention herodotus while scrolling through the catalog, im more of a tcg nerd

>>96260753
Sticky blade, latches onto the magnetic field of other sabers and it's hard to pull them off, lets you use cool blade bind moves.

>>96260923
Good but I didn’t enjoy Kobah as a setting. I liked the variety of planets you get in the first one. Hopefully we get more planets in the next one including an explorable Korriban for once. Especially as Kal is a bit dark sided now.

>>96260936
>S2
>good

>>96260923
>playing disney tranny wars slop

holy shit dude

Just binged the Darth Bane trilogy. Also read Deceived and Plagueis. What should I read next?

>>96262263
Are you wanting more Sith stuff or any general recs?

>>96260698 (OP)
Retard, twileki are adults at 12. Mission not being romanceable was the devs not understanding the IP.

>>96261589
I dont care about this thread or anyone in it but tonnes of people know the father of history

>>96260955
Yes? And? That means she's been an asult for 2 years.

>>96262309
More Sith novels would be cool

>>96262469
Best Sith stuff outside of what you have read would be the old comics such as tales of the Jedi or the KOTOR comics which are Sith adjacent. Other novels you’re missing are Lost Tribes of the Sith - Collected stories and there’s some nuWars books such as Lords of the Sith or Shadow of the Sith which are enjoyable enough. The ROTS novel is also a good read for a more inside view of Vader and Sidious

>>96260698 (OP)
>TQ
Saga. No question.

WEG is a 90's RPG through and through. I appreciate the simplicity, but i have NEVER gotten along with D6 systems in longterm RPG's. Like, i'd play WEG as a 1-off because character creation takes 10 minutes and its simplicity can be fun for all of 1 session, but the novelty wears off quickly.

FFG can get fucked with their specialist dice. One of my dice gets lost and i have to spend £25 replacing the entire set?

Saga is just complicated enough to be interesting and it's got the kind of character system i like where characters feel dynamic and you can tailor them however you like. You can have an entire party of Level 3 Soldiers and have every character play entirely differently.

>>96260923
It was a decent to good game, but the fluff bits like the garden and fish tank were unnecessary. I also had little to no interest in side quests.

>>96260712
No, thank you.

>>96260712
Eh, i'll wait to see what actually happens. I believe that SW needs a half decent writer to come along and contextualize ST into something not shit and this might do it. Or it might just be more of the same shit. Call me when we at least have a trailer or something.

>>96262263
Try Cloak of Deception and Dark Lord: The Rise Of Darth Vader

>>96260698 (OP)
>TQ
WEG is my all time favorite, but Saga is so janky and holds a special place in my heart. I played a demo of FFG and really enjoyed it, but haven't played since

.>>96260712
What a sad and pathetic state of things.

>>96260955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFRkB8SzkPY

>>96262645
Use a dice rolling app and FFG becomes the best ttrpg system you've ever played

>>96262171
Well, it is 'good' in the sense that it is not BoBF, Kenobi or Acolyte.
It doesn't make me just want to turn off the stream and play Tetris.

>TQ
FFG
The dice pool system is just so fucking good to GM with.
I love rolling a billion dice and pondering how they fell like a bone oracle.
Sad to see that genesys is dead but I guess there is more than enough material to homebrew with.

>>96262660
I loved the fish tank! Scoova Stev's old fisherman tales are peak Star Wars.

>>96265136
I liked him too and the holotable battles. They were fun side activities that weren’t demanding of your time like you’d find in ubislop games. Speaking of ubislop, sabaac in outlaws was really good.

>>96263939
If your desire is to be locked hard into the writers' vision of what a Star Wars character is, sure. FFG is great if all you want to do is play stereotypes, your not-Hans and your not-Lukes and your not-Vaders. The moment you try and get original with it, it starts to fight you because it's part of the modern style of RPG that expects you to passively consume sourcebooks and adventure pamphlets to unlock new experiences, where a classic RPG like WEGD6 expects that when you run out of Content *you* will take over and tell your own stories in your own way.

>>96265273
The holotables was a miss for me. I think it could be improved- namely in quality of life, but I think the main problem is not being able to control your own dudes. Now- watching the AI fight and staging battles can still be fun, it just shouldn't be in like a strategy context.

>Ian Watkins
>sick fuck

he sure is.

>>96260698 (OP)
>dat bulge in her trousers
Guess Mission was packin'.

>>96260712
Honestly, I welcome Episode X if it means it will bring things to a "Current Era" that is past Rey era.
Mind you, anything not made during the political climate of 2013-2019 is bound to be an improvement of things.

Twi'lek sexo

>>96263939
This is true, digital rolling already gives you the results without having to count them. But digital dice also dehumanizes RPG, just like people who don't even bring a sheet of paper for their character because it's already on the phone.

>>96266658
>I get a glup shitto one
FUCK

>>96267038
I wonder if the person that made that tweet would know what a huge impact on the fandom he's about to make

>>96260923
The High Republic stuff felt a bit off, it was noticeable how they basically shoehorned that in because they wanted to push that era.
Apart from thaht, the main story is pretty solid.
I liked the side area parts on Jedha, but I think I never finished all the sidequests around the Saloon.

Also, Merrin and Cal are very qt together. I'm 100% certain Disney will ruin them in part 3 becausue a ginger human and white-haired (slavic actress) Dathomiran will never be allowed to be happy together in current year.

My fag gm sent us a cropped screenshot of this thing and said he was going to make it a main character in the next campaign. He wont tell us what it is. It’s some kind of old republic era thing?

Can someone with hardcore starwars autism identify this glup. I ran it through several reverse image searches and cant find anything

>>96267405
she's already been made a lesbian, how could they ruin her further

>>96267709
Thhat was retconned and memoryhholed, and she canoncally held hands with Cal later.
She absolutely teleports his midichlorians into her witch cave.

>>96262446
Star wars fans are generally fucking stupid and illiterate.

>>96267753
ok but again, how would they ruin her further

>>96267405
I liked it, but it did feel very suddenly introduced. And I think more could have done to contrast the era of Democracy at its height with Democracy at its lowest.

>>96267866
Casting an actress that looks like a human being instead of a supermodel.

>>96268830
not to worry, they can ruin any actress' looks
Disney is really good at this

>Acolyte suffered a 33% viewership drop during its season
>Ahsoka suffered 31%
they're the exact same show, just one gets praised because it has recognizable characters and dave filoni's name plastered on it

>>96270201
Do you live in Narnia? Nobody praised Ahsoka, and in fact Filoni is rightfully getting more and more hate each day that passes and Ahsoka as a character alongside all of TCW are being left behind as people start adopting the MMP

>>96270230
I can praise parts of Ahsoka specifically the cinematography. I just wish it was animated because Filoni cannot do live action.

>>96270201
And even with the viewership drop, all of Ahsoka episodes were still in Nielsen's Top 10 throughout its entire run. Unlike Acolyte's, that only had one episode enter Nielsen's rankings.

Acolyte's fan reception was also beyond abysmal. Ahsoka's reception went down after the disappointing final episode, but it was overall still considered an okay show. Not great, not terrible. You're a massive retard, and you should kill yourself.

>>96270230
>all of TCW are being left behind as people start adopting the MMP
I'll take things that never happened for $300, Alex. No one except a bunch of 4chan incels gives a single solitary fuck about your crappy comic books and shitty tie-in novels.

>>96270272
anon this looks like dogshit
tell me what planet that's supposed to be

>>96270283
if acolyte didn't exist, ahsoka would be considered the worst star wars tv show
lowest viewership numbers because we don't have any for skeleton crew yet (which is good)

>>96270291
>if acolyte didn't exist
If you weren't a subhuman faggot with room temperature IQ, we wouldn't have to suffer your garbage rage baits devoid of any substance and thought put into them. But alas, we are not dealing in the realm of hypotheticals. You are here, and you are subhuman. And Acolyte exists. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
>ahsoka would be considered the worst star wars tv show
No, subhuman. That would still be Book of Boba Fett or Kenobi.
>lowest viewership numbers
No, subhuman. That would still be Andor S1.
>because we don't have any for skeleton crew yet (which is good)
We do have them. That show was the lowest viewed show, and never even entered Nielsen's rankings. And it's not. No one even remembers it existed anymore.

Why are you so fucking dumb, huh?

>>96270311
why lie?

>>96270315
Ngl Kenobi and Book of Boba only got that high because of Mando hype. All Disney TV shows after Mando S2 except Andor have been some of the worst Star Wars content, to the point where I'd be happier to see the Holiday Special be made canon instead of those

>>96270291
>anon this looks like dogshit
Why?
>tell me what planet that's supposed to be
It's not supposed to be any planet. It's supposed to be a surreal dream sequence and a fading memory.

Have you watched anything in your life except Star Wars and capeshit?

>>96270318
pretty much, plus they're big name characters

shame the shows themselves sucked, they could have done so much more

>>96270315
Where is the lie, subhuman? Andor S1 was the lowest viewed series except Acolyte and Skeleton Crew, despite having 12 episodes that were each consistently over 40 minutes long.

>>96270320
it's ryloth, it's intended to be ryloth
of course you basically couldn't fucking tell because it's a shitty scene filmed using the volume that has fog everywhere to hide the screens with the "excuse" of "it's a dream sequence!!!!" used as a cope argument to explain why it looks so shit rather than just admitting it looks cheap and shit

did you know teth was also in that episode? sure looks like shit compared to teth being used everywhere else

>>96270328
>it's a dream sequence, which was made patently clear in the episode
>NUH UH, YOU'RE LE COPING!
Concession accepted, manchild. Jump off a bridge.

>>96270326
>posts evidence that ahsoka's numbers dropped off ~45% in 2 weeks and barely recovered even with anakin clone wars glup shitto moments up to a maximum of 69.4% of week 1 viewership with the finale

it's shit.

>>96270347
>b-b-but andor
andor dropped off to 57.1% of viewership in 2 weeks (still higher than ahsoka, but marginally) but recovered for ~108% of week 1's viewership with the finale, with a higher total number than ahsoka too

>>96270347
I posted evidence that despite the drop off, the series consistently qualified in Nielsen's Top 10 rankings, unlike Acolyte and even Andor, which dropped out completely at 9th episode. Despite the initial drop off, Ahsoka gained and then retained the viewers, and despite having less episodes that were overall shorter, it had more viewers on average than Andor ever did. These are objective facts. You are so retarded, it's embarrassing. Why are you like this? What goal are you pursuing? I don't even like the show that much, but you are so desperate in making shit up, it's pathetic. Filoni resurrected your shitty waifu, why are you still so upset?

This entire thread is retarded as shit, imagine caring what the Nielsens say or how many people saw what. Ahsoka was shit, Acolyte was shit, Andor was generic grimdark hidden under a Star Warsy appearance, Kenobi was shit, BoBF was shit, Mando was shit after S1.

>>96260698 (OP)
I really wanted to get into a Star Wars rpg following the old (true) canon before the disney retcons made everything gay and stupid.
Any suggestions? I really just want a game where my friends and I can play some padawans studying at luke's jedi praxeum and go on adventures and shit.

>>96270366
Of course. I would even say Mando S1 was also shit. It had the narrative weight of a Skyrim side quest, and the whole "never remove helmet" bullshit was retarded, and Baby Yoda was a marketing gimmick designed by a committee, and MCU-tier humor was obnoxious.

All of these shows are shit. But it's Ventressfag, who came here and posted retarded bullshit >>96270201 for no reason, because he needs 5 minutes of pointless hatred, or something. He is simply getting disproven with the shit that he himself posted.

>ventressfag
>filonifag
You’re both annoying fags. Shut the fuck up.

>>96270374
Mando should have just been a Boba Fett show set before ESB with Boba doing jobs for people including the Empire and maybe making a live action take of that plotline where he figures out Luke's name and reveals it to Vader. But that means making him a bad guy which modern Star Wars can't do

>>96270362
>needs to use averages because it's the only number that makes ahsoka look good
bet you use "per capita" if and when it suits you
face it, ahsoka had a significant drop off and never truly recovered from it, because the only people still watching it are filonifags who don't care about things like "quality" because anakin or thrawn showed up

your own data that you swear by makes ahsoka look bad

>>96270414
Morrison is too old and fat to play Boba Fett at ANY point in time. It was comedic to see him crawl out of the Sarlacc pit fat and old all of the sudden, when it's supposed to be basically during ROTJ, where he was skinny and 36yo. Morrison can only play old clones.

>show about the baddest bounty hunter alive
>half of the show is tuskens culture exploration
>other half he spends in a bacta tank unable to be badass
>his best episodes were the 2 mandaloroan episodes they tossed in

Why did they do this to my boy boba

Oh and that gay space scooter chase sequence which might be the slowest ever made

>>96270458
well anon, can (you) write a better book of boba fett season that isn't just him killing bad guys for the entire runtime for 8 episodes straight?

>>96270466
They set the bar pretty low, and why shouldn’t it be gratuitous boba killing spree the show? The clone wars animation is beloved and it’s all action.

They should have adapted Cad Bane vs Boba arc into live-action, expanded it into a full length mini-series. And don't hire Robert Rodriguez to be the showrunner/director, and don't let Jon Favreau anywhere near the scripts.

>>96270515
I hate that they keep blueballing us with it
>looks heres a new clip of the unfinished bounty hunters arc that we could have finished but didnt!

>>96270428
Tbf I wouldn't want Boba to be literally played by Morrison. We don't need to see him remove his helmet, and there are way better voice actors

Also Morrison for Boba in the Special Editions was already a mistake, Jason Wingreen was so much better and I wish we had more attempts to replicate his voice

>>96260796
I still can't believe they wasted Luke like that

>>96270664
Any sense pointed to Luke getting offed in episode 9 (if at all) but Johnson's ego demanded he be the one to kill off Luke.

>>96270771
None of the OT characters should have died, but they needed to to prop up Rey because as a character she is worse than cardboard.

I would have liked if rey having everything easy mode made her go dark side and kylo turning good, then by episode 9 they can have their big come to Jesus moment like in rotj with Luke and Vader. Disney you can hire me whenever

>>96270778
>None of the OT characters should have died

>>96270771
Luke dying in 8 makes sense if you actually want 8 to be the ESB of the new trilogy. They managed to fuck up by having the rebels essentially lose, lose hard, and even had a main character from the last trilogy die, but still not have the balls to make things end on a proper down note.

Then that lensflare hack just ignored the whole movie so Luke really did just die for absolutely nothing.

>>96271419
Dude, blaming JJ for what RJ did is absolutely nonsensical.
JJ is an incompetent hack, but that does not excuse RJ being an even more narcissistic and just fucking the entire franchise.

>>96270466
Yeah, him killing good AND bad guys for 8 episodes straight.

>>96270778
I don't mind people dying.
Complete character assassination, on the other hand, is unforgivable.

>>96270366
>Andor was generic grimdark hidden under a Star Warsy appearance
If it were just that noone would give a shit about it- the characters and the dialogue were all consistently solid and didn't suck like it has in every SW film/show since ESB, which is why it was solid.

What still boggles my mind is why they tried to make this big star wars universe across series and shows but didnt have a solid plan or writer in charge.
like.. how the fuck do you explain the mess that was boba fett

>>96272010
What boggles my mind is they initially INSISTED they had a plan for a SW universe, said they weren't going to acknowledge any of the old EU because they had a plan for a SW universe, and then proceeded to revert to using the old EU a few years later because it turns out they DIDN'T have a plan for a SW universe really.

Do you think Disney will go and put trigger warnings on every TCW episode now?

>>96272244
I dunno, but I think this suggests that TCW has had a cultural impact equal to that of the first six films, which is impressive in its own right.

Am I reading too much into this, are there other sci-fi properties that used "clanker" as a pejorative term for robots?

>>96272244
>Creates a new racial slur
Filoni is a Genius

>>96266571
2025 is somehow a better political climate? Star Wars is gonna be deemed woke unless the Jedi team up with the Empire to fight off a race of Woke Gay Alien invaders, and they only cast white actors.

>>96270283
I dont get the acolyte hate. Like others have said it's about similar quality. Which I consider not terrible. I think I'd still rank it at the bottom of the Disney + shows, just not by a huge margin.

I just feel it had more 'woke flags' to pick on.
>>96270311
Controversial opinion. I like Kenobi.
>>96270458
Robert Rodriguez is known for doing high budget cheap. That said- I'd have given him a different show.

I liked the tusken stuff. I do think the crime boss stuff doesn't land and that's ostensibly what it's about.
>>96270664
I find it nuts they didnt just bring it back. You could easily have just said some bullshit like 'I entered the cosmic force'. And even have Rey mistakenly think hes a force ghost.
>>96272010
Its what they did with Marvel. In all honesty I think just not using JJ Abrams it could have worked. JJ Abrams thinks continuity is for stupid people.

Andor s1 is a bar above other Disney sw products just because it’s more competent. It still had serious issues that were not-star wars. Just off the top of my head it is way too adult. They didn’t need a bix rape allusion to tell their story. The fact the director came out to defend it is even more out of touch.

>>96272401
Robot itself is a racial slur, it means "the one that does hard labor". Basically, a field clanker.

>>96272561
I still don't think it's as good as Mando S1 or S2.

>>96270778
My problem is less that characters were killed, but that they were killed and then absolutely no Pathos was paid to this.

>>96272493
The solution to the Star Wars problem is adapting Legacy.

>Chud fanbase will love Fel Empire and the imperial knights
>Sith are still the bad guys
>Cade is the subversive hero for the subversive generations
>Rey's ghost can replace Luke's ghost, making it completely understandable as to why Cade would want to take deathsticks to make her go away

I've also toyed with the idea of making Cade into a woman. That will appeal to both gooner and Arcane audiences. Cadia Skywalker, she takes drugs and bangs sith twi'leks. She's just like Jinx, fr, fr.

>>96272765
There already is a female Cade. There was a spin off form Legacy featuring Ania Solo (nice original name there ripping off Anakin) but it was cancelled once Disney bought Star Wars. You can’t make a proper Legacy anymore because there are no blood descendants of the Skywalkers and I think they would avoid doing another shitty clone thing. Then again, they probably wouldn’t.

>>96272818
Turns out, Luke really loves hookers.

Or: Luke and Ahsoka had a secret child

>>96272818
You think they cant shoe horn in a Skywalker bastard somewhere?

>>96272820
Or even he had a more conventional relationship and exiled his baby momma and child when he started getting visions of himself as Anakin killing younglings.

>>96272820
Disney Luke died a virgin.
>>96272845
They will be it will be a symbolic Skywalker like Rey. Not a blood one

>>96272820
>>96272830
>>96272845
>>96272857
All shit, but not really worse than what Didney Wors continuity already is.

>>96272401
>Am I reading too much into this, are there other sci-fi properties that used "clanker" as a pejorative term for robots?
Yeah, other Clone Wars media iirc. It was in Battlefront 2 and iirc Republic Commando, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear books/comics had it.

>>96272968
Just read a Rolling Stone article on this very subject. Repbulic Commando is credited, according to Know Your Meme, as originating the term. It was then picked up and spread further by TCW, with additional boost from r/Prequelmemes.

Clanka is out word meatbags.

>>96260955
She ain't no kid!

>>96270367
Saga edition is the way to go for that. The FFG games also started based on the pre-Disney lore, but have post-Disney sourcebooks you can apply (if, for whatever stupid reason, you want to)

Clanker can’t be racist because droids aren’t a race. Checkmate atheists.

>>96273081
Shut the fuck up wireback.

>>96273081
We don't serve your kind here, you'll have to wait outside

>>96272561
You are using the world allusion wrong. The allude to something is to reference something we don't see. We saw that in its entirety.

It's also weird to complement Andor for being serious but criticize it for being 'too adult'.
>>96272864
According to whomst?
>>96273187
It's definitely a slur- but this reinforces the fact that droids have no rights.

It amazes me how people fail to pick up on the fact that droids are slaves in the Star Wars universe. Like- not even the good guys ever think to themselves that Droids deserve something like a paycheck. At best they are just more polite to the droids while wanting to do nothing to change their overall situation.

Which is of course intentional- as part of Star Wars being 'a long time ago' there are unjust aspects of their society they don't question, just like someone in the Roman era would have seen nothing wrong with the concept of slavery.

Like idiots mad at the 'droid rights' robot in Solo. Like they can only view social issues through a real-world lens, and not a star wars lens, where droids literally have no rights at all. Lando even states outright the only reason he doesn't wipe her memory is she's a good navigator. Maybe that's him trying to save face because he doesn't want people to think he lets his droid sass him because he respects her as an autonomous being, but it's clear that not deleting your droids personality when they ask for equal treatment is seen as weirdo behavior, which he doesn't bother to dismiss.

>>96273819
The reason why people don't like the droid is not because they're incapable of understanding simple things, but because
>The droid could have been written like Spartacus, or Moses, or a civil rights figure era like MLK or Malcom X, but is instead written as the screeching harpy from your college campus, in an era where the screeching harpy fatigue was beginning to reach its peak
>Lando, the smoothest player in the history of cinema, has been made into a pansexual droidfucker.

Maybe if the writers viewed the character through a Star Wars lens instead of a real world lens, she would be tolerable.

>>96273876
>droidfucker
he just had an attachment to his droid, just like Anakin with R2 and what not. the romantic/sexual affection was entirely on the droid's side, and that was the joke.
I agree about the droid being a bit annoying overall though.

>>96273819
Allusion in the sense it wasnt a hardcore explicit rape scene but we still had 3 episodes of bix trauma to sot through to put the event into perspective. I don’t think it’s a weird call at all to say it was good in being serious but too adult. There’s a top shelf of adult media stuff that SW explicitly avoids because it is a family oriented program. Andor didn’t respect that line and went too far

>>96273917
First of all
>It works.

Secondly, if you want to remain in denial and believe there's some ambiguity left in the movie, the comics (Dark Droids #1) confirm that Lando had either platonic or sexual relations with that toaster

>>96271875

my friend it is a convergence of the galxy that we have found one another. sentients of our caliber who can express sweet nostalgia fir passed trends without ourselves falling out of vogue.
this may have been my favorite all things said.
you doll it up in a little dress, hilarious.
v good high society humor.
"not only do i have contact with a tailor who can work space silk but one that is on call for me, can make a new one right then and there. I can walk into the restroom and ruin it with abandon, with the CONFIDENCE that it will be done before i am.
good times.
but times always change.
howd that new operation of yours turn out?

>>96274001
Okay, all I had seen was the movie. That is indeed weird.

>>96274001
>sexual relations with that toaster
I mean there are toasters I woud hit

>>96274245
And SW had droids like that.

>>96274280
These replicants never seemed like they belong in Star Wars to me.

>>96272765
>>96272818
Just acknowledge Disney canon is a failure. Soft-bring Ahsoka, Mando, etc. into Legends, and continue from where Legacy left off.

>>96274317
I don't care, troll. Fuck off.

>>96260698 (OP)
wish I had a Star wars game.

alas the last two I had were killed by no shows from the GM, and my friend only considers SW5E because "I already know 5E"

>>96273876
Why would a random droid owned by a random smuggler be a Spartacus or Malcom X figure?

The point was clearly meant to be all the organic characters dismiss out of hand the concept of Droid Rights, that they would see such a character as shrill and idiotic, and not as a respectable or well educated figure that you'd take their arguments seriously. Because Droids don't have rights, and this is so normalized in their society that it doesn't occur to anyone to question the morality of this system.

If anything, her being a college-campus stereotype helps reinforce these themes. How many social issues have you dismissed the validity of, purely because you found the messenger to be annoying?

I also don't see the problem with Lando fucking anything that moves. Like I honestly don't get the objection. It's also not confirmed that Lando does fuck droids, just that his droid thinks that Lando wants to fuck her. She isn't exactly delusional, but she is shown to be someone that overestimates a lot of things, so this easily could have been her ego speaking.

>>96273960
That's not what allusion means.

Also- if someone ALMOST killed you, you'd be traumatized. It's pretty fucking bizarre to act like one can only be traumatized if the rape succeeds. She was already clearly in a bad mental state to begin with as well, still recovering from mind-breaking torture at the hands of the Empire. To have another Imperial try to victimize her probably reopened all those wounds.

About the only thing I think the scene overstepped is I think the word 'rape' shouldn't have been used. Not that I think it needs a euphemism- more I think Star Wars works better because it doesn't spell out everything for the chucklefucks in the cheap seats. Like- Jabba putting Leia in the sex-slave outfit. The audience shouldn't have to be told it's a bad thing (though I guess fucking morons do), it's just self-efacedly bad. Or how droids are slaves in this universe, or how the Jedi use child-soldiers.
>>96274001
That doesn't imply Lando fucked the droid. There are several alternate explanations
>The droid has fucked other organice
>The droid has seen or is aware of other organics fucking droids
>The droid is being delusional again, and over-simplifying how such an interaction would work because she's a know-nothing know-it-all

>>96262664
I’M GONNA GO OUT
I’M GONNA LET MYSELF GET
ABSOLUTELY SOAKING WEEEEEEEET

>>96270230
This.

>>96265535
Between all the FFG books, there's more than a hundred specializations spread across the 18 careers, and even more universal specializations. I have trouble imagining a character that couldn't be represented with at least one of them.

>>96274449
>Anyone who disagrees with me is a troll
Actually kill yourself, thin-skinned bitch.

>>96274495
If you don't see a problem with the droid-fucker Lando, I don't have anything further to discuss with you. You are clearly the target audience of the disneyslop, and Solo was made to please people (few as they are) such as you.

>>96260712
The best thing they can do is pull a God Emperor of Dune-tier time skip. Make the sequel trilogy a distant memory only known by a few characters in-universe. Disney will never do this, of course. They are terrified of leaving the Skywalker saga, I mean how will the audience know it's SW without hecking stormtroopers and tie fighters?

Juhani>Mission>T3M4>>>>>Bastilla
prove me wrong

This saga is only worth it if you consoom the grimdark media lol aka Andor, NJO, Kotor, and so on

>>96274800
Oh, so all of a sudden wanting to fuck droids makes you Woke, I see how it is. So much for the 'tolerant right'.
>>96274816
They don't need that huge a timeskip. A single generation will do.

What I think they need to do is more retcon the fuck out of the sequels.

First step they did was providing SOME grounding for Emperor Palpatine coming back with Project Necromancer. It doesn't fix it, but it at least provides SOME sense of continuity.

Then we have the Imperial Warlords era that helps explain the existence of the First Order.

I think there are two steps they need to do that can allow them to just ignore the sequels moving forward. First- retcon that the New Republic surrendered on day one. Make it so that when everyone says this in the Sequels they are being hyperbolic- they mean the New Republic 'effectively' ceased as a fighting force in regards to their theater of the conflict. I would liken the situation to the USSR prior to the Battle of Stalingrad- where they suffer such huge defeats that people are actively writing them off as a proper combatant. BUT- then we could have a series of stories, comics, whatever, showcasing the New Republic trading land for time, gathering their forces for a big counter attack. This could also help make the 'Galaxy-Fleet' less retarded- instead of it just being a bunch of space-truckers we can say it also includes the New Republic Main Fleet. This also helps establish that the Galaxy isn't in anarchy by the end of the film- that the New Republic can still reassert stability in the area, rather than the hollowed out remnants of the Resistance.

The other step is establishing a backup Jedi Order. Because I think we can all agree it won't make sense that somehow Rey is going to succeed where Luke failed. Ahsoka would fit well in this role- I know people are getting tired of her, I'm just saying she has more credibility than Rey. Her having Hu-Yang is a HUGE step up in resources. Hell, have Cal Kestis do it.

>>96274943
Unfortunately Rey is going to rebuild the Jedi and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. It's been set down like law by Disney.

>>96273876
I genuinely don't understand how people can be so thick. Like seriously, did you even watch the film? Firstly, the droid was pretty clearly tweaked in reshoots to be a parody of exactly the kind of screeching harpy you're talking about - sure they also try to imply it might have a bit of a point, but its confrontational, petulant, juvenile manner is also transparently meant as a rebuke to "activists" who don't know when to STFU and aren't capable of pitching their argument for an audience because they view themselves as moral crusaders.

Secondly and more importantly, the droid ends the film as a disembodied fucking slave, doomed to forever inhabit the Millennium Falcon as a glorified navicomp and almost never see Lando again. It gets a literal fate worse than death.

Goddamn I bet you're one of those tards who thinks Kriea's speeches are actually legitimate criticisms of the Force rather than just than the manipulative drivel of a self-serving Sith don't you.

>>96274672
>I have trouble imagining a character that couldn't be represented with at least one of them.
Well based on every game I've ever seen run or discussed I can tell you what characters: interesting and unique ones.

>>96275319
>Goddamn I bet you're one of those tards who thinks Kriea's speeches are actually legitimate criticisms of the Force rather than just than the manipulative drivel of a self-serving Sith don't you.


>Kreia is my mouthpiece for everything I hated about the Force, and then I let her rant,
Literal, word for word quote from Chris Avellone himself. Shut the fuck up, retarded pseud.
Everything else that left your whore mouth is just about as ignorant and retarded.

>>96275391
Cry some more /tv/tourist

>>96275408
>Spouts ignorant bullshit
>Gets called out with an explicit qutoe proving him wrong
>Hhrgdsfogkdfgodfog /tv/ tuuurisht gkdfgkfdg crayooooons

This is not reddit, there is no karma or reputation to protect. For once in your pathetic life you can be a man and admit defeat.

>>96275420
>/tv/ tourist talks about manhood
LOL
LMAO even

>>96275437
I accept your concession

>>96275345
That's not something you find in a rulebook. You're just blaming the system because you decided to play with shitters.

I found Filonifag's Twitter and he deleted it lmao

How you doing @nowheretogo1345?

>>96275455
You have to take your meds, anon. If you had any friends they'd probably be worried about you.

>>96275455
KEK I saw that, somebody posted about it in a /tv/ thread.
It was an entire profile dedicated to seething and ERM ACK-TUALLY-ing everybody on Twitter about TCW, except less "offensive" because he's afraid of the Twitter mob. Funny shit.

>>96275455
Why are you stalking some rando on Twitter? How the fuck is any of this /tg/ related at all?

>>96271419
>Luke dying in 8 makes sense if you actually want 8 to be the ESB of the new trilogy
Not really.

>>96275584
>rando
>the guy who constantly stalks ever Star Wars thread across the site just to derail them and attempts to stalk people like ventressfag = okay
>someone happens to find his Twitter and thinks it's funny = NOOOO YOU CANT JUST DO THAT WHY ARE YOU STALKING HIM
Blow me.

Years ago someone wrote up a breakdown on "what lightsaber style" for force and destiny with three tiers for each style, why, when and potential playstyles in a slightly less thorough manner. I think it boiled down to "Pick Ataru or Soresu, and then pick Niman if you have enough experience". Does anyone have the original document?

>>96275687
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/73275517/#73290494

Was this the thread?

People really hate kreia like she’s a pseud? I thought her gripe was really cutting towards the reality of the force in how it bends the universe to its will, forcing a cyclical battle between light and dark. In essence enslaving the whole galaxy to its rules

>>96275981
Maybe, it almost matches with collapse of the republic and it was definitely posted around then. Someone posted a PDF that was much more thorough and less huehuehue.

That thread is fucking incredible though.

>>96275319
>If only those fucking robots would learn their fucking place. Fucking Clankers.

>Now excuse me while I jack off to a B2 droid fucking my wife.
>>96276062
Kreia is kind of the embodiment of the phrase 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing'.

She correctly identifies a problem- that force users are stupid and their petty bullshit determines the fate of everyone else in the galaxy. She then however, thinks that because she came to this conclusion that she is holding onto Special Knowledge, that makes her superior to literally everyone else in the galaxy except for those who agree with literally every single part of her ideology. And that therefore she has to make the executive decision to destroy the force and with it 90% of all life in the galaxy.

She's kind of the epitome of a midwit.

>>96272765
The problem with this is that people still love Luke. Nobody fucking likes Rey. The core problem with the Disney retcons is that nobody likes their new characters very much, if at all, with the sole exception of some of the Mandalorian characters, and frankly most mandalorians are interchangeable

>>96273179
Oh shit yeah a while back a friend of mine was trying to fix some of the rules he didn't like from Saga and we had rolled uo some characters. Unfortunately he split with his girlfriend who owned the rulebooks and took them with her, and I split with mine, neither relationship ended very amicably so that's 2 out of the 5 players gone and one taking the sourcebooks with them. I'll have to pass the megadrive link to my friend so he can snag the sourcebooks there and see if he's still up to run the campaign with a few other people.
Concept for the campaign was kind of fun: We're a bunch of padawans secreted away to some backwater planet just before order 66 and trying to train while also keeping our force sensitivity secret to avoid alerting the local imperials. I was going to have the story hook that I struggled with the pull of the dark side and worked as a general droid repairman, with the idea being that I'd focus on lightsaber skills and build a little cadre of droid buddies to help everyone out as we eventually save up for a ship.

>>96276156
>She correctly identifies a problem- that force users are stupid and their petty bullshit determines the fate of everyone else in the galaxy. She then however, thinks that because she came to this conclusion that she is holding onto Special Knowledge, that makes her superior to literally everyone else in the galaxy except for those who agree with literally every single part of her ideology. And that therefore she has to make the executive decision to destroy the force and with it 90% of all life in the galaxy.
She goes for a mad gambit, because from her point of view its better than rely on another millenias of bullshit caused by force-sensetive.

>>96260776
Bane got killed by Boba Fett

>>96276226
>the system has problems
>therefore KILL EVERYONE

Like I said. Definition of midwit. Structural change is complex, hard, and requires convincing multiple people of both the problem and the solution, and would require time and effort to achieve.

So instead of doing that, just abolish they system while providing nothing that could feasibly replace it.

Kreia's a Trump voter essentially.

>>96262189
Still on this?

>>96276456
>KILL EVERYONE
But the purpose was especially avoid killing everyone.

>>96276062
>okay, the Force is gone
>now all I have to deal with is physics
Great plan.
At what point do you just accept responsibility for your own actions instead of pretending like destiny is simultaneously responsible for all the bullshit in the universe but also will let you overturn it because ???
Doesn't the fact that she's even able to attempt to kill it prove that individuals are independent from the Force and they're at least as responsible for what the Force does as what the Force does to them?
You're either an object or a subject, you can't just swap from one to the other when it suits you.
At the end of the day, she's just the average
>billions must die
advocate who believes that the world will magically become permanently better rather than treadmilling like it does in reality. At best, she creates a similar ebb and flow where the strong crush the weak before collapsing due to their own dysfunction only to be replaced by cooperating idealists who collapse due to their own nepotism because that's just fucking how reality works.
Consider the alternative. What would a truly peaceful galaxy even look like? Either it would be frozen in place, or it would be a perfectly balanced system incapable of being disrupted. Either way, it would be impossible to change, just as locked into "destiny" as it was before.
Maybe there's some kind of third solution where the cosmos is capable of some kind of fractal expansion of its own rules, but even then, that would be built into it rather than something that emerges from its nature. If you were truly capable of expanding and repairing the system in which you live, that was always a capability of the system from the very beginning.
No matter how you look at it, you can't truly separate yourself from your circumstances or the rules you live under. It's like actively trying to destroy continuity: If you succeed, you cause a result and thus fail. But that tie cuts both ways. Destiny answers to you too- you are part of it.

>>96276165
Finn and Poe were good.

Rey's problem is that she's an homage before anything else, and not a particularly good one. People didn't like Anakin Skywalker, but Anakin Skywalker was a noticeably different and unique character from Luke, and so he still has his fans.

Rey's pretty much got two unique character traits. One is she's a fangirl. There's more they could have done there thematically- like contrasting the reality of her hero's with the fantasy, but nothings really done there. And two- she has hangups about being a nobody. Which comes to nothing because in the third movie they bend over backwards to make her a PALPATINE because god forbid someone be important to a story on the basis of their own merits and not owing to arbitrary plot powers.

I don't hate Rey, and I wouldn't be opposed to her character appearing in the future. But I don't think she has the capacity to mainline something, like I think Poe or Finn could. They got shafted in the third movie, but at least there's places their characters could still go.

>>96276469
Something I don't get on a fundamental level is how desperate people are to confront the truth that the universe is arbitrary.

Pretty much every path to enlightenment in every culture will eventually boil down to 'realize that you don't actually control all that much in life, and learn to let go and focus your energy elsewhere'.

Instead people treat prayer like they can personally beg favors off of god, or that they're center of vast deep-state conspiracies rather than the truth that the world's run by fallible morons.

Systemic change is hard. Not impossible. Just hard. It requires understanding of the system, strategy, time, effort, and resources. But people don't want complex answer to complex questions, they want dumb caveman answers, and they want to think that if they just scream and shout enough that'll do all the heavy lifting for them. People spend more effort understanding a fake reality than the one they live in.

>>96276456
The system of the US government is completely broken, it's nothing to do with the Force. Democrats, ALL Democrats and Bush Era Republicans need to be placed into internment and force labor camps.

>>96276488
To be fair, some people are actively malicious/greedy in that they're willing to run up a bill as long as they're not paying for it. Nine times out of ten, if there's some kind of problem, the cause is a lack of accountability.
Then again, if most people "got what they deserved", the world would be very grim and boring.

>>96265535
>FFG is great if all you want to do is play stereotypes
The original Star Wars is a painted up adventure serial at its core. Of course I want to play to stereotypes.

Holy shit what does politics and governmental organization deconstruction have to do with kreia? Talk about midwit her struggle is more akin to convincing the sun to let the earth go from its gravity well.

>>96276495
You are proving my point Kreia you midwit.

>>96276495
>The system is completely broken
>The solution: Democrats and Bush Republicans do hard labor
So the only people left are the undecided voters. Because contrary to popular belief, EVERY Republican is a Bush Republican, they just want to hoist some of the blame for their fuck ups off on the previous administration.

That being said, the people left in charge being the undecided moderates sounds like a pretty good idea. I mean, they can't fuck it up any worse.

I hate Americans. Always shitting everything up with their clown circus politics. Discuss the real politicians or shut the fuck up.

>>96266658

lorewise just how tight is twi'lek twussy?

>>96277821
well too bad because we gotta discuss the recent news with cara dune

>>96277987
I have no interest in talking about that man and the awful character Cara is.

>>96277987
Qrd? Since they didn't bring it into a court I assume she got cash, but was Disney oblogate to rehire her or what?

>>96277821
This guy gets it, we need to get back to more pressing matters, such as the droid attack on the Wookiees?

>>96277986
Given their penchant for being (sex) slaves I would think they are tip top for the galactic standard.


Togruta (shaak ti style) vs twilek is the only contention. We don’t mention zeltrons cuz they cheat

>>96261652
This is probably the best breakdown imo.
For me its WEG because if i’m completely honest, I don’t really care about Star Wars setting without the Empire

>>96278112
Both of them settled and moved on. No obligation to hire her but they can if they wish, but they won’t. She’s burned bridges especially allying with chief autistic schizo Elon Musk during it.

>>96278215
So she just got the cash

>>96278221
Looks like it. Disney probably didn’t want some stuff in the public domain such as financial or streaming figures. It’s such a non issue cause she’s a bad actor, it’s a shit character and she hasn’t even been noticed that she’s not there. She can enjoy her money and keep whinging online.

>>96278237
>it’s a shit character
Nah character was promising in the first season, but it's all went down when Filoni started pointing Cara into Rangers of the New Republic (so even before she threw a tantrum on the twitter).

>>96260923
It's three different plots haphazardly strung together
>Dagan Gera's quest for Tanalorr aka here's High Republic stuff to get you to read the books
>the Jedha library to give Cere and Cordova something to do and for mandatory Vader appearence
>Bode's shenanigans, which are actually interesting, but happen too late in the game
Merrin's Nightsister magic is really OP in this game. Also it's funny how you can customize Cal, but you can't change his hair color
Good time overall, but other than Cal going Dark Side, Knights of Ren appearing and Cal vs Vader, there's not much they can do to spice things up.

>>96272818
Legacy vol. 2 was really good and not edgy, I've enjoyed the Darth Wredd arc but Disney cancelling EU led to one of the most abrupt endings I can think of, where there's a random massive battle between Jedi and Sith (who are supposed to be infiltrating the not-Repbulic after Krayt got killed). Horrible

>>96260712
>new kosher order
>this is taking up production space
I am vomit

>>96268830
Merrin is the textbook definition of small town 7

>>96277765
Yeah I find it amazing that the 'party of personal responsibility' has never ONCE owned up to a fuck up. Like seriously, I'd love to hear a conservative take ownership for something terrible they've done. I'll wait.

And 'letting Democrats vote' doesn't count.

>That being said, the people left in charge being the undecided moderates sounds like a pretty good idea. I mean, they can't fuck it up any worse.
You know how much of a GODDAMN MORON you have to be at this stage of the game to be an undecided voter?

In Star Wars language, do you want the Galaxy to be run by people who after all the films go 'I still can't decide who the good guys are, the Rebels or the Empire'.
>>96278118
I think the Wookies should launch a counter-attack on the Droids.
>>96278521
I thought the Jedi Library stuff was good. I think it makes sense as a goal for those characters to have- or rather someone in the Star Wars universe to have. And tying it to the Hidden Path makes a lot of sense.

I do think it's weird how Dagan Gera's plotline just ends, it felt ostensibly to me like the main plotline. And I thought there'd be more pathos in fighting an evil Jedi- with some stuff like questioning the role of the Jedi in the universe.

Bode also was interesting, but also happens too late and ends too soon.

I have a theory maybe you play as Kata to send you back to the beginning in power levels. I'm not saying that as a hope, just that makes sense to me design-wise.

>>96272765
No. Empire knights were not Bueno
Not even gonna comment on the rest>
>96274800
No body gives a fick about lando at all so his droid being a ambulatory masturbation machine with delusions of grandeur don’t matter
No one cares

>>96270458
Boba Fett just isn't a protagonist material. While he's inspired by Clint Eastwood's character from the Dollars Trilogy, he has none of the human qualities TMWNN displays in the movies and no characters he could play off, like Tuco or Mortimer. A TV show about Fennec Shand with Fett as a supporting protagonist would work much better

>>96280489
I always thought of boba as more of an action man. The quiet melodrama of the old west doesn’t suit him.
They already have the game of thrones guy for playing house as a no name murderer, so imo they should have brought boba back with a younger actor. His character was always a threat that got snuffed before it could do anything, they should have had him do something.

>>96280489
>a bounty hunter who Vader personally has to address for restraint isn’t protagonist material

Color me shocked. He’s an action hero in a dark world dispensing backwater justice and death sentences. He’s a jobber, not a crime lord, Disney just fumbled the bag and could never do him the violent justice he deserves

>>96280464
This post was written by a homo

>>96277986
If you find the SW thread on /ah/, there is an inofficial drawing that explains why Twii'leks can milk you wiith a velvety iron fist.
There are muscle rings and nerve endings to stimulate contractions.

>>96281111
>/ah/
I mean /aco/

>>96278041
>that man
You know, it's STILL transphobic to misgender someone even if you're doing it to mock a rightoid.

>>96276226
So what you're saying is...
From her point of view, it's The Force who is evil?

>>96278287
Cara was always meant to be the lead into Rangers of the New Republic.
It's a pity they cancelled it when she ran her mouth and Disney opted not to renew her contract (she was not fired).
Frankly, old Asian pilot dude (I can't remember his name) would have been great leading the Rangers show.

>>96281555
She "ran her mouth" less than Jojo Rosenbaum's biggest fan Pascal.

>>96273206
ok vat baby

>>96281576
She ran her mouth, was told by Disney to stop. Kept running her mouth, was told again to stop. Kept talking, Disney cancelled talks to contract renewal, she goes and whines that she's a victim who got fired for "muh freeze peach!"

>>96276156
>She's kind of the epitome of a midwit.
Nah, not quite. She ultimately acknowledges her own midwittery much like how Avellone fell back in love with Star Wars while working on KOTOR 2 and WANTS to be proven wrong. That's why the Exile is her ultimate pupil: if the Exile defies her then her thesis is wrong and she can die happy, but if the Exile buys into Kreia's bullshit and Siths out, she's ultimately disappointed and accepts her death as an inevitable consequence of the system she believes to exist.

That's why she treats LS Exile with such tenderness and care while treating DS Exile with venom and disdain.

>>96276375
He got better.

>>96281592
Again she said nothing other disney stars did not.

Even the Nazi references were far less direct and more about stopping people learning to hate before it extends to the holocaust vs Pascal's "Deportation is literally Auschwitz" (or his whole weepy mourning of a serial child rapist who got shot in the dick)

>>96281592
Pedro literally sexually assaults women "as a nervous response" and called half the nation racists based solely on geographical location of their ancestors, because he's a bioessentialist eugenic neonazi.

>>96280431
Holy shit you're retarded.

>>96281592
>"muh freeze peach!"
It's hilarious to see leftoids still pull this one out of their NPC script when they're now pro-free speech after Visa/Mastercard shut down a bunch of pro-LGBT videogames and a jewish man sued a bunch of leftoids for sending his family human skulls.

Literally pick a struggle, unc.

>>96281656
You have yet to learn that most people only care about freedom of speech when its things they care about getting censored, and will gladly cheer the censorship of things they hate.

>>96281703
Oh I know, but I'd hope they're at least sapient enough to come up with a justification for their cognitive dissonance.

>>96281656
>jewish man sued a bunch of leftoids for sending his family human skulls.
???

>>96281592
>Freeze peach
Your opinions have no value.

>>96281771
Hasan vs Ethan Klein. it's a whole drama and has nothing to do with Star Wars.

>>96281703
>most people only care about freedom of speech when its things they care about getting censored, and will gladly cheer the censorship of things they hate.
What's the problem?

>>96281626
>Pedro literally sexually assaults women "as a nervous response" and called half the nation racists based solely on geographical location of their ancestors
And since when it's a problem?

>>96281611
Nice try trying to rewrite history. She acted like a cunt and she wasn't anyone important enough to care about keeping around.

>>96281555
>Cara was always meant to be the lead into Rangers of the New Republic.
Then her train is completely gone

>>96276156
Kreia is 100% right about the Force. Because unlike what this retard thinks >>96276469, Keria's issue with the Force is NOT that it causes a perpetual cycle of conflict and mass death. That's AN issue yes, but what she's actually missed about is the fact that it has a Will. The reality that there is intent behind it, and that this intent controls destiny on a cosmic level, means that everything everyone does is fundamentally pointless. Nobody has free will at all, they're no better than droids, which is the reason she fucking despises droids, because they're like a mirror to mankind's own nature, nothing but programmed machines acting out lines of code, if anything they're MORE free than living beings. This is why she doesn't care about manipulating people or wiping out swatches of the galaxy, everyone is literally an NPC anyway to begin with.

The Exile was just a litmus test to see if someone free of the Force could even naturally be good, or if that was just a constraint imposed on people altogether, as Nihilus' existence suggested.

>>96282084
>the Force has a will
>therefore free will is a lie
Dude, I literally explained why that's horseshit in the post you called me a retard for.
>No matter how you look at it, you can't truly separate yourself from your circumstances or the rules you live under. It's like actively trying to destroy continuity: If you succeed, you cause a result and thus fail. But that tie cuts both ways. Destiny answers to you too- you are part of it.
If the Force invalidates free will, then physics invalidates free will, for the same reason. It's the system within which you originate, are limited to, obtain your configuration and start state from, and progress through. At no point do you ever stop being part of physics, because it's literally what you're made out of (and presumably what the Force is made out of, too, given midichlorians).
If somehow the Force is totally unconstrained by physics but is capable of acting on it, then it doesn't really make sense that it can be killed, only maybe sealed off Elder God style. Which still doesn't solve the problem with the fact that even if you did seal off the Force, you would still be a fucking slave to physics.
Either Kreia has free will, in which case she's getting angry because other people have free will and she gets angry, or she doesn't have free will, in which case her anger is at best an exception to be caught and at worst just part of the plan from the very beginning.
>but I have free will within physics but not under the Force
Okay. How? What part of you wasn't handed to you by random chance? Why are "your" decisions naturally exempt from the same determinism that runs everything else? Everything you have, from your genetics to your body to your ideas to your experiences, is a natural consequence of the systems in which you live.
Kreia is performing special pleading about how the Force is different because she's emotionally invested in being right. Either you have free will or you don't. Subject or object.
Pick one.

>>96281794
Oh so it's literally a case of
>I only pretend to have morals, values, or a consistent worldview when I need to play the victim
AKA
>i-it's okay when WE do it
>>96281824
Literally all she said was
>We should all get along, mmkayyy
Which was faggy as hell but nothing inherently wrong. Meanwhile Pedro literally got people to stop watching Mando and tanked S3 with his bullshit.

>>96282735
>Oh so it's literally a case of
>>I only pretend to have morals, values, or a consistent worldview when I need to play the victim
Isn't that common american approach?
>WE
Who?

>>96282759
>Isn't that common american approach?
I don't know what euroseethe has to do with any of this but lmao

>>96282735
>>We should all get along, mmkayyy
Only in the context of "stop calling me out on spouting nazi bullshit"
So nice try with your gaslighting. The fat bitch is gone and will stay gone.

>>96282761
>I don't know what euroseethe has to do with any of this
Nothing. I am just curious why exactly Pascal sexual assaults such big case if you government (or should I say governments?) refuses to release Epstein's files, uses official diplomatic channels to bail out people suspected in human trafficking and luring teens into prostitution and calls prosecution of the said people as attack on freedom of speech.

Pedro Pascal being an open sexual predator is the most forced and cringe astroturfed hit job by chuds.

>>96283095
who's the thick brow blonde?

>>96283095
That thing on the right is a man.

>>96282863
Nazi bullshit such as...?
>>96282870
>Disney runs the government
What an odd take.

>>96282377
>all that just to fail to understand that physics doesn't have a mind of it's own
Kreia doesn't give a fuck about inherent constraints or natural circumstance, she's pissed because the Force already wrote everyone's character arc according to it's own judgements.

>>96282377
actual midwittery, I bet you didn't play the game, and just listened to some vIdEo EsSaY. Kreia's argument is that the Force invalidates free will because nomatter how hard somebody tries to go against the Light Side being ascendent (i.e. balance), the Force will always intervene to bring about balance. You don't know it but your parallel towards physics is actually correct, just not in the way you think you are. You cannot fight against the will of the Force in the same way you cannot fight against physics, unless you actually destroy an inherent part of the universe.

Kreia's anger against the Force is futile and she recognises that it is futile, but she cannot let go of how she hates it. Which is why she implicitly seeks to pass on that understanding of how the Force works to the Exile. She almost literally says this on Malachor V when she talks about how the Exile killing her is instead a reward; again, bet you didn't play the game.

>>96282377
If you could defy physics to get what you want, why wouldn't you?

>why was gina fired but no pedro pascal for posts, clearly it's because of politics
wasn't chuck wendig fired for the same reasons? and he was a hardcore liberal and called for death to trump supporters or whatever

personally I believe it just kicked up too much of a stink too quickly whereas with pedro nobody really cared about it y'know
not defending, just adding my 2 cents

>>96283499
>whereas with pedro nobody really cared about it y'know
Plenty of people cared, but not the sort of "people" who do mass canceling smear campaigns. Plus everything he said was Hollywood Approved so even if people did try to brigade him it'd be an uphill battle. The thing with Wendig actually supports this: he cultivated a more dedicated hate-base and was both too much of a brand risk by going too far (for the era, at least) and not having enough star power to be worth keeping around, so he got cut loose.

tl;dr: it's both regular politics AND corporate/office politics at play.
Man, it's pretty funny Gina got canceled for likening conservative witch-hunting in Hollywood to how Nazis turned germans against their jewish neighbors and just a few years later and now the left is literally witchhunting jews and attacking their places of business for being "zionists"
One might even call the whole situation ironic

>>96283534
yeah I suppose so, just a classic "he's our leading man so no we won't do anything, but you two are replaceable so get lost"

unless of course pedro is the actor on that recent rumour that got posted on /tv/....

>>96283557
>he's our leading man so no we won't do anything
That and again, he was saying the "approved narrative" while Gina went against it. Funny thing is I really didn't care for Cara Doon as a character and would've been perfectly fine with her getting killed off/written out of the story, but it's pathetic to see her dragged through the mud over the most milquetoast left of center cuckservative views in existence.

What is this controversial thing Pedro is supposed to have said? Can never know if it’s something legit or just /pol/ hyperbole

>>96283499
>>96283534
>>96283557
>>96283563
Gina got fired because she gained 40 pounds between the first two seasons of The Mandalorian. Disney just used her right-wing views as a public excuse so the wokies wouldn't accuse them of sexism.

>>96283592
Standard leftie rabblerousing, like calling half the nation sore losers who wish they could still enslave black people, equating LE DROOMPF and anyone who wears his dumb hat to nazis, saying conservatives should die, that sort of thing.

It's not that he said anything particularly out of pocket for a libtard, it's that he was gleefully engaging in very incendiary dialogue and not getting so much as a gag order by Disney whereas Gina said some very mild kumbayah bullshit and got completely banhammered from the industry and smeared as a neonazi troonslayer for it. It's the hypocrisy that rankled people.
>>96283612
Again, that wouldn't be a problem if she said the right (left) things. They got fucking Lizzo for Mando S3 and it's not like women in hollywood are expected to work out to fit a role like men are anymore. They fucking CGI'd in muscles for Natalie Portman in the Gurl-Thor movie.

All in all we clearly established kreia is still the best character Star Wars has produced. What a gilf.

>>96283776
>Standard leftie rabblerousing, like calling half the nation sore losers who wish they could still enslave black people, equating LE DROOMPF and anyone who wears his dumb hat to nazis, saying conservatives should die, that sort of thing.
It's kind turned out to be truth since right after elctions republicans jumped into creation of freikorps.
>They fucking CGI'd in muscles for Natalie Portman in the Gurl-Thor movie.
As opposed to makeup mucles or costumes with muscles?

It's such a shame that Carano's suit didn't ended up with total war between Disney and Musk (with both going down eventually)

>>96283776
If rightoids don't want people to equate them with nazis, maybe they should stop fellating Hitler and making constant references to nazi iconography and philosophy. Places like /pol/ are filled with people who are openly neo-nazis, yet as soon as somebody outside their community points that out they get all indignant and try to deflect the claims.
It's obvious they don't have any actual issues with nazims, they just know the majority of people do so they have to at least try to deflect the accusations in public, while continuing to act like nazis when they think nobody is looking.

>>96283817
woah woah woah.
Kreia is good, but she's no Willrow Hood or Elan Sleazebaggano.

>>96283817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRE10jSTzWA

>>96283916
trvke

>>96283817
Wrong. This dude chilling in Mos Eisley is the best character in all of Star Wars because he looks cool.

>>96283863
>republicans jumped into creation of freikorps
Lmao, democrats were the ones dronestriking citizens, enacting national lockdowns and curfews, indefinitely imprisoning people, and doing generally fascist bullshit.
>As opposed to makeup mucles or costumes with muscles?
Those are also pathetic. Male action stars typically have to actually go to the gym and not a single woman has the fortitude to do the bodily harm for his career that Christian Bale has gone through.

>>96283916
Didn't leftoids in Canada platform a literal nazi and shower him in accolades recently?

>>96283977
>Lmao, democrats were the ones dronestriking citizens
Yeah remember all those alt-rights who were klilled by predator drones durring attrempt to overthrow a government.
>, indefinitely imprisoning people,
Damn you right, remember all those camps for dissidents built by techbros.
>Those are also pathetic. Male action stars typically have to actually go to the gym and not a single woman has the fortitude to do the bodily harm for his career that Christian Bale has gone through.
And yet you are simping for fat femoid.

>>96284004
>Yeah remember all those alt-rights who were klilled by predator drones
Obama killed an American in a nation the US wasn't at war with, are you really trying to memoryhole that?
>remember all those camps for dissidents built by techbros
And now you're trying to memoryhole the Jan 6ers being held without trial for 4 years
>yet you are simping for fat femoid.
Not really. I already said I don't care for her, her acting, or her character. It's about consistency. I'd rather Disney got rid of her AND Pedro Gropescal than keep one or both.

>>96284019
>are you really trying to memoryhole that?
I don't have to since I am not an american.

>>96284019
Your treason weasels from jan 6th did get a trial and were found guilty. your orange pedo god pardoned them despite them beating cops to death with.

What a shitty thread.

>>96284019
>Obama killed an American in a nation the US wasn't at war with, are you really trying to memoryhole that?
it's okay. probably was some anti-semitic swine like guys aboard USS Liberty

>>96284142
Very on brand for Star Wars.

>>96282084
That's what I mean by midwit. She correctly identifies a PROBLEM. She HORRIBLY misidentifies the SOLUTION.

But because she discovered the problem, she then thinks she's the sole authority on it.
>>96283534
You can say jews you know. It's 4chan.

>>96284142
Are the politards just bots talking to each other?

>>96284267
Very likely. I think they've said that 40% of the internet is bots now. 90% on Twitter. I think they said it's less on 4chan comparatively, because the alt-right moved to Twitter, but pretty much they and the Russians are buying up mass bots to try to influence political opinion. We saw this when they were glitching out in real time not knowing how to handle the Epstein story. Probably because it also broke peoples real world programming.

Kreia was right, people are droids.

>>96284262
>That's what I mean by midwit. She correctly identifies a PROBLEM. She HORRIBLY misidentifies the SOLUTION
The Exile is the only glimpse at a solution, and even she knows that's not a solution. In case you were fucking illiterate, Kreia was never going to wipe out all life, that was just intended to gas the Exile up to kill her.

>>96284307
Don't bring Kreia into your faggoty political argument retard.

>>96284307
I love her so much it’s unreal. On one hand I’m sad we will never have kotor 3 but the other I am glad no one can tarnish her legacy, because holy shit they would.

>>96283410
>You cannot fight against the will of the Force in the same way you cannot fight against physics, unless you actually destroy an inherent part of the universe
That is why I made the parallel, yes. Glad we agree. The reason why I called what she's doing special pleading is because the Force restoring balance is pretty much what a lot of physics already does. Some people square the circle of free will versus determinism by resolving that since you're in the thick of it, you're a driver the same way anything else is and your free will is a matter of you expressing your own nature.
>I bet you didn't play the game, and just listened to some vIdEo EsSaY
Fair cop. Kreia's "justified crash out" has been fucking up my feed and people have been gushing over it a little too much, so I broke down, listened to two essays, and wasn't very impressed by either of them. I came to ask a completely different question, but when I saw it here too, I indulged in a little futile anger myself. I didn't want to blogpost earlier, which is why I didn't say so. Of no fault of TOR's writers, the issue hits on similar beats to "dude metanarrative, aren't these stories kind of fucked up" stories that I have gotten sick and tired of hearing about.
>>96283391
>the Force already wrote everyone's character arc according to it's own judgements.
I don't really know what to tell you besides that's just how determinism works. You might as well blame the writers.
I'll stop.

>>96284442
Physics doesn’t have a will but the living force does lol.

>>96284407
It baffles me that EA hasn't greenlit it. They were given the license. They own bioware. What- were they too busy with Dragon-Age Veilguard? You couldn't just scoop up some of your spare studios and rebrand it 'Bioware: Madrid' and get some of the old guys on the story team?

>hurr midwit trump leftards russians pseud durr
Fucks sake, can't you guys discuss fantastic setting's philosophy without making it about RL politics and related shitty slang for one bloody thread? Earth is irrelevant in Star Wars.

>>96284505
Can’t you “people” discuss anything /tg/ related or will you continue bitching about decades old gripes while refusing to play games

>>96284474
EA had an EXCLUSIVITY deal to be the sole company that could make Star Wars video games from 2013-2023.
There was A LOT they could've done but they didn't.

>>96284474
Does TOR existing not sort of crush the opportunity for kotor 3s proposed story by writing it out half baked?

>>96284474
KOTOR 3 is literally an impossible delivery and I reckon no one would want to touch it. You have an incredibly iconic and beloved game franchise with a passionate fan base and that means it will be under scrutiny day 1. There are so many challenges:
>story
Do you follow Revan? Do you time skip? What happens with SWTOR?
>gameplay
Zoomers and modern casual gamers wouldn’t be able to deal with the TB DnD like gameplay that KOTOR1+2 have. Do you change it to make it more action akin to Fallen Order/Survivor or go full TB isometric like BG3. This is also something that I reckon the KOTOR remake is struggling with.
>Star Wars itself
This is no longer a safe money franchise. Outlaws was a flop, anything that hasn’t been Fallen Order/Battlefront has been a flop. The general media is largely a flop too. It’s not a safe investment of money anymore.

There’s probably a lot more issues but it’s just something that is probably left untouched. There should be a KOTOR spiritual successor within Star Wars instead similar to what Dragon Age Origins was to Baldurs Gate.

>>96284512
Perspectives on the Force are relevant to Star Wars roleplaying. Your bitching and RL politic shit isn't.

>>96284512
Okay, serious question: Why do medical droids in West End Games' D6 system have (A) Medicine 9D? Doesn't that just invalidate most characters' progression in an expensive skill? It seems like anywhere you would be able to do Medicine you would have a medical droid staff.

>>96284552
Doesn’t it make sense to leave medicine to droids when you have a galaxies worth of aliens to consider differently? Would probably be impossible for a person to really have complete medical knowledge in their life time given the scale

>>96284586
That's fair.
The reason I ask is because otherwise, there seems to be very little reason to buy it up past 1D or 2D for the requirements of bacteria tanks. That doesn't really match up with role-playing a proper medical professional and introduces an unusual problem where the only people who can judge a droid's medical prowess are either the greatest medical minds in the Galaxy or other droids. I guess that reflects real-life issues with automation, though.

>>96284552
I mean, they are a valid ersatz for a medical specialist, and are generally convenient, but they aren't always available when you need to stabilise someone, are expensive, and limited in scope to their programming (which, when the other species are involved might be more comprehensive than a living specialist, but can come short just as often in non-deluxe models).

A droid also can't be a jedi and some people might be paranoid about sentient machines doing surgery on them, too.

>>96284612
As far as I know medicine in Star Wars it’s:
Head ache?
Broken back?
Severe burn wounds from blaster fire?
Bacta, for everything except amputation there’s bacta. Otherwise you get cool droid limbs.

>>96284641
>for everything except amputation there’s bacta
It won't cure ageing, cancer and nasty diseases. Bacta allergies are also a thing, IIRC.

>>96284612
*bacta tanks
The other question is why there are so few (A) skills. I get that they're difficult and rare and REUP adds more, but it just seems like a holdover from a previous edition I don't own. Why else dig into how they work? Part of me thinks based on the way the book is written that it's a mix between "make your own (A) skills, here's how" and "this will be in supplements".
>>96284617
Availability was my original answer, but it seems like you'd need a dedicated medical facility, and thus, you'd be better off relying on First Aid until you could get to a full facility (although at lower levels of Medicine and high levels of First Aid you want to buy up the former to boost the latter). I guess when droids can't come to the planet and the subject can't leave due to infrastructure, they send people.
The other thought I had was Specializations where a human specialist will rush 11D to 13D in a very specific field and sell that expertise, maybe consulting alongside a generalist Droid.
I can also see the ultrarich hiring loyal surgeons as a form of insurance against assassination and being a flex.

>>96284683
Medical specialists in general are there as an insurance and oversight for droids, just as engineers are there to oversee astromechs. They can address any issues a clanker might miss or spot malfunctions they might develop before it becomes everyone else's problem, and with sufficient focus they will surpass a droid in time.

And like I said, but to quote the rulebook, "some people harbor a deep sense of distrust and prejudice against the machines" is right above the Medicine section. A sentiment not entirely unwarranted considering droids developed serial killer and subtler, long term harmful sadist tendencies before.

>>96284267
Almost. Just underaged teenagers who can only regurgitate the politics they've been fed by way of memes.
>>96284307
Twatter could solve its clanker problem, but Elmo wants to keep the numbers of "engagements" up.
>>96284548
>Zoomers and modern casual gamers wouldn’t be able to deal with the TB DnD like gameplay that KOTOR1+2 have.
BG3's success proves this is bullshit. Just stick some gorgeous gay twink, some colorful alien muscle mommy and allow full nudity and KOTOR 3 would sell hotcakes.
>Outlaws
Doomed by incels screeching that the protag wasn't fuckable enough. Was a 7/10 game, overhyped and overbudgeted, but not terrible. Got written off early when sales were low as lots of people were hesitant to jump on the thing that was causing so much forced "controversy."
Still worth it if on a 40% or more off sale.

>>96284784
I thought Outlaws was enjoyable too. The worlds, locations and cities felt like Star Wars to me. I thought their art direction was brilliant and the space stuff was good too. It was just a victim of culture wars and Star Wars fatigue sadly. I was surprised that Ubisoft were doing a sequel until recently but I think it’s now getting a book spin off.

>>96284783
Yeah. I guess I was just shocked to see 9D on that 9D is specifically listed in Gamemaster Characters as
>"About 1 in a billion people have a skill at this level".
But, like you said, prejudice and concern count for a lot, and after about 7D skill, the advantages seem to become pretty marginal. I forget if they changed out any details about Medicine in REUP. I'm reading out of the 2eRU&E right now since I have it in front of me. My computer keyboard isn't working so I can't pull up REUP on that machine.
But yeah. Given Coruscant has "trillions" in Canon and 650 Billion in the book, there's sure to be a small number of even better specialists. Not to mention Jedi, like you said. Heh. Now I want to make a Padawan that survived the Purge by abandoning his training and becoming a surgeon.

>>96284541
Star Wars thrives in prequels and interquels. They tried sequels once. It was terrible.
>>96284548
I don't think souls-like gameplay would work, I would want a degree of RPG action. But action-RPG's have worked, I believe people have really enjoyed what Expedition 33 did.
>>96284784
Oh yeah, this has been a problem for a while. Elon tried to sue the original owners for 'lying' to him about the number of bots. That lawsuit failed, but he then refused to do any mass bot-purges. Because he understands that Twitters only value is that lots of people use it, and if those number goes down, so does the value of the company. If anything he's massively pro-bot now, because they inflate the value of his product.
>>96284799
I hope the culture wars fucking die off. Or at least move on to something different.

What bitches me the fuck out is people that are clearly not fans, and are just content farming. Like the people who complained that the inquisitor in Kenobi was an angry-black-lady. They clearly have no idea how the fuck the dark-side of the force works.

>>96284942
Content farming pisses me off for a secondary reason: There's just so much Star Wars content that it is functionally impossible to truly digest all the lore. Naturally, not having everyone exactly on the same page generates continuity errors or conventions that make sense in the local story but split when they hit the setting. Click bait runs rampant as a result.
>IS THIS CHARACTER STRONGER THAN ANAKIN????
No, the writers just didn't take into account online powerscalers and wanted to make a good story for the story they were writing.

>>96285018
It doesn't help that social media is used by companies to judge the reactions to their announcements and products and that social media algorithms only care for the numbers of engagement that something gets, regardless of how people feel. Meaning ragebait is a disgustingly winning formula, so you constantly see things about how " or has RUINED Star Wars by making it ! You need to be outraged by this!"
And it doesn't help that there is a large contingent of autistic twats who think they're cool and smart and grownup by pretending to be outraged and hate everything that comes out. See >>>/v/

>>96284942
Sequels are fine assuming you don't make arguably shit things.
mind you, the acolyte was a "prequel" too.

>>96282863
>>96283499
Chuck called for head stompings and violence, (And was technically fired by the MARVEL branch which was still run somewhat by Perlmutter at the time who was a trump voter and didn't like the idea of being told to lick a shit covered boot) Gina compared the purity tests and radicalization of all aspects of life to the early stages of the Nazis.

While her costar compared merely having an enforced border to the actual slave-and starve and outright just killing in camps phase.

>>96283592
Deportation waiting room photos he compared to death/slave camps. Also being all weepy Rittenhouse got acquitted (or looked likely to be? May have been a bit before the verdict) after killing "Jojo" Rosembaum, MONTHS after it was known he raped five kids ages 9-11.

>>96281794
Oh look. Its another lying disneyfaggot.

Does anyone know where I can find the pre-Saga Wizards stuff? Looking for the New Jedi Order book in particular, but the pastebin only has from Sage onward.

>>96260698 (OP)
Mission was the best Kotor girl by a longshot. The Miraluka was a distant second and only because of her voice.

>>96289473
>Mission was the best Kotor girl by a longshot. The Miraluka was a distant second and only because of her voice.
Good taste.
I have a soft spot for Kreia though, nagging contrarian that she its. And her voice, Sara Kestelman done an amazing job.

>>96289489
Not gonna lie, I thought it was Maggie Smith at first, but all old Br*t*sh women sound the same to me.

>>96285018
reminder anakin got beat by this guy

are the Jyn and Cassian squads for shatterpoint good?

I've been considering getting into Shatterpoint for a while, had been looking at the Fearless and Inventive box, but now that there's Cassian and Jyn as playable characters I'm more interested. How do they compare to other characters?

>>96290389
Cassian's squad is great, has amazing synergy with ANH Leia's squad and probably Jyn's too, but still works well with other rebels like Luke, Ahsoka, Han and Chewie or Lando.
Cassian hits like a truck at range and makes his team really mobile. His tactic is best used on Pathfinders to get the most out of it and his identity can make anyone punch above their weight. However his melee capabilities are kinda average which can feel bad when you need him to contest a point at close range. His model also looks kind of ass.
K2-SO is great, hits hard, pretty tanky and Lockdown means he can reliably hold an objective alone. Whenever he gets wounded your opponent must be ready for you to move a lot of your minis too.
Pathfinders are good for supports, really flexible. They can attack primaries but I wouldn't focus on that too much.
I have yet to buy and play Jyn's squad so I don't really know much about them.
Jyn is really mobile, hits hard and can probably help with Cassian's Force issues.
Chirrut and Baze look pretty strong and if both of them are on an objective they can force it to flip despite a tie which can be useful during a scenario where some objectives are worth double the points.
Bodhi seems to be the weak link, great support abilities but not much else. His ability to score a fuckton of point if left alone will paint a huge target on his back.
In my experience mobility and focusing on objectives is the name of the game in Shatterpoint so they both look like very good squads when played together.

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>>96285018
>truly digest all the lore
>continuity errors
>split when they hit the setting

The sort of shit said by people who won't acknowledge that this is an imaginary bullshit setting with 1,000,000 different takes by 100,000 different authors. It's NOT REAL you retard. It gets to be whatever the given writer wants it to be for their story. That's what writing is.

>>96284942
>Oh yeah, this has been a problem for a while. Elon tried to sue the original owners for 'lying' to him about the number of bots. That lawsuit failed,
The same woman refused even going into discovery on that was the one who keeps saying "It's deceptive to your shareholders if you get along with the board"

Even after multiple votes.