Thread 96271371

The fact bootleg games with legally distinct tolkien knockoffs inspired all fantasy that people blame on Tolkien is so fucking funny to me

It's as if everybody ripped off and copied heman but blamed conan for all the heman tropes

There are literal millions of fantasy hitlers and napoleons but literally 0 (Zero) fantasy expies of Mao Tszedtsuong

>>96272051
Hitler and Napoleon's more "at home" for the west, whereas writing a fantasy Mao if you're Chinese can get disappeared.

>>96272051
The only thing I know of Mao is from the dark forest, and he never makes an actual appearance in it

>>96272051
Mao 1.) Looked stupid as hell 2.) WAS stupid as hell, basically a mountain bandit who luckshitted his way to accidentally killing hundreds of millions of his people (and deliberately killed tens of millions).

>>96272051
Didn't Genius: The Transgression have a future chinese dictator in their backstory? Like if you travel to a couple hundred years in the future, in most cases, you'll be under the solar empire of a chinese dictator or something?

>>96271371 (OP)
Failed writers tend to gravitate towards rpgs where they can force half a dozen people to sit through their shitty fanfics, it's not surprising they hold a grudge against the guy who, armed with nothing but his own sheer autism, went on to become one of the most well known and successful writers and worldbuilders of all time

>>96272051
Suikoden.

>>96272051
Because if you actually laid out Mao's actions on the page, people would accuse you of being hyperbolic, racist, and making stuff up.

>>96274710
>It was all just luck! d-dont read any of his treatises on warfare or politicking g-goy!

>>96281940
Mao was a competent commander and a shrewd enough politician to end up on top when the dust settled but under his tenure China made the IoM look like a rational, open and benevolent society and he was in way over his head.

>>96282707
Well, he did unite the country (except for those two islands), and projected so much power even soviets got worried. All he needed was trustworthy advisor(s) in matters of industry and agriculture that would talk him out of the worst blunders and history would remember him more fondly.

>>96282787
He hated those guys. Purged them during the Cultural Revolution. He spent his time during the CCW getting fuckpwned by party cadres fucking everything up for him because of orders from Moscow.

>>96272051
Because if you make a historically accurate fantasy Cultural Revolution, people will think you are referencing the Anabaptist rebellion.
Or Savonarola

>>96278436
/thread FPBP (every other post was yapping with the frogposter, KEK)

>>96282787
I understand he was a hardcore Stalinist but why exactly did he make the exact same mistakes regarding agriculture too?

>>96289747
There was Lysenkoism, a theory that the natural world could follow Communism and equality if it was made too, thus the ways of farming, planting and making food that actually worked was reactionary fascism preventing the spread of global communism, not only to all people's of the world as worker comrade brothers but indeed to all living things plant or animal.

being against any of that makes you an antirevolutionary farright fascist chud btw

>>96282787
Those were blunders depending on where you cut history off. The US had a similar thing in Oklahoma that destroyed the state for decades making okie a synonim of hobo, but you don't see people pretending the US still has food issues caused by the same policies that caused the dust bowl.

>>96289747
The US was making them too around the same time. Mass agriculture wasn't a solved issue at the time.
And you'll see anti mao propaganda jump from not enough food to feed people to enough food for some dudes to start quietly re-selling it which was turned into the current model. No explanation of how a failed system turned into one with excess food before implementing liberal practices.

>>96289747
Lysenko basically had Stalin's ear, and was talking about these revolutionary agricultural techniques which were a mix of "plants and animals naturally practice Communism" and "Lamarck was actually right, and Darwin was a secret capitalist." His techniques didn't actually work, but if you were a biologist who performed an experiment that proved they didn't work, that was only proof that you were a wrecker, and possibly even a subversive geneticist. If you were a peasant obeying these instructions and your crop yield was lower than what Lysenko's research said they should be, you were probably hiding your harvest, and the propaganda teams would publish the 'correct' yields anyway. And of course all this was before Mao accepted the agricultural publications coming out of the USSR uncritically. And just like in the USSR, when actual yields were low they assumed peasants were just hiding their harvest

>>96291457
Shhh, anon! Stop citing actual facts and history! These anons don’t want to learn, they want to feel smugly better than the country that is surpassing them.

>>96291885
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>>96297232
Dude, the US is jailing legal inmigrants and was considering deporting political dissidents, the US no longer gets to bring up uyghurs in reeducation camps while sending people to worse places.

>>96271371 (OP)
So what IS it they're copying if not Tolkien?

>>96297262
Uyghurs are Gazans of the Far East and would blow you up in the name of Jihad.

>>96297328
People tend to take violent exception to their homes being razed, their culture being pruposefully destroyed, their children ripped away from their arms and so on.

>>96297480
Better than letting their kids being raised by imams to become suicide bombers.

>>96274710
It wasn't luck, Mao was a devious Machiavellian mother fucker, I read a biography on him years ago and it's honestly insane how he rose to power, every other Chinese communist leader fucking hated him, most tried to oust him at some point and he'd outmaneuver them and basically break their spirit so that when the next one tried the ones he'd already beaten were too demoralised to join. When the various communist cells were fighting the nationalist government he basically kept his army out of the fighting, a cell would request aid from him and he'd say they were on the way and would just sit back, after that cell got decimated he'd just absorb whoever was left into his own forces making himself stronger while letting his rivals continually weaken themselves, then during WW2 the nationalist government did almost all the fighting against the Japanese meanwhile Mao just used that time to go around and propogandize in towns and cities about how hard the communists were fighting to protect China just completely taking credit for himself and the communists and by the time WW2 was over the nationalist government was worn out and the army depleted and the communists were at full strength and had convinced most of the people to support them so they just steamrolled the nationalists

>>96297262
The Chinese government is literally harvesting organs from uyghurs to sell to rich Saudis needing transplants, fuck off with your whataboutism

>>96297638
>be Uyghur living in the countryside
>be stolen from parents and indoctrinated into good Chinese communist
>made to work 18 hrs a day in shoe factory before I'm old enough to walk
>witness countless other toddlers being fed to the hungry hungry machines
>subsist on plastic noodles and maggot-ridden fish
>choke on inch-thick smog daily
>"live" in tenenment building that falls apart daily
>teacher beats me for mispronouncing our Glorious Leader's name
>too poor to bribe the teacher so he'll give me good grades
>have to drive a cab part-time to make ends meet
>witness Chinese slut who never gave me the time of day sucking face with dirty capitalist white piggu
>when they get off I see he's taking her to a love hotel
>truck driver T-bones my shitty car because he ran a red light and brake fluid is too expensive
>get immolated in the resultant explosion that is strong enough to level half the city block
>life is so cheap I'm not even a statistic
No thanks, give me the bomb vest instead.

>>96297271
>>Shit copying DnD
probably that? maybe He-Man?

>>96272651
>writing a fantasy Mao if you're Chinese can get disappeared
They had the same thing with Mao as Russians had with Stalin – you can criticise him nowadays. Even more so, since Xi's father was from an opposing leftwing party to Mao's.
>>96274710
Utter muttmerican illiterate moron.
>>96297818
This dude knows.

>>96271371 (OP)
hemanbros.......

>>96271371 (OP)
>dnd rips off tolkien
>everything else rips off dnd
so how is it "wrong" to cut out the middleman and blame tolkien?

>>96297862
The Falun Gong are CIA assets not CCP assets, anon.

>>96302927
>dnd rips off tolkien
False.

>>96302947
Cool story chang but I was talking about the uyghurs

>>96278436
Which was a shitty fanfic, an offspring of the judeoabrahamic values, crossover with pseudopaganism.
Each with their own autism at different scale.

You're just another extra fanboy in the sea of fandoms.

>>96281940
>>96297818
>attested brilliance
>look inside
>he just hid while everyone else fought the Japs or each other and then stabbed them in the back
I suppose that might seem brilliant to certain people.

>>96272051
You might need a modern China pastiche first, and every fantasy China is ancient times

>>96272051
Fantasy Mao would be a pretty interesting villain
>unites his country of feuding warlords against evil invading orcs
>creates the most powerful country the world has ever seen
>decades later people make up stories like him killing all the sparrows and other reddit stuff to make him seem le evil

>>96303401
China became powerful because it's fucking China, a massive nation placed in a strategically important area with a historical and cultural emphasis on education and access to enough resources to compete in the contemporary. Mao was capable enough, but made a lot of objectively bad decisions in the pursuit of his ideological ends. His big success was making China China again instead of a bunch of warring chaos.

>>96281134
>what the fuck dude? You expect me to believe a guy who is for the people would just randomly tell them to kill all the birds and get rid of all their farm tools?
>I get that you hate commies, but you shouldn't just make shit up to make them look bad!
>It was obviously the CIA's fault that all those people starved when all those bugs ate what was left of their crops after all the farmers were sent to work in factories and prison camps

>>96303311
Sometimes anon, all you need to do is let your enemies defeat each other

>>96304398
And that's before you tell 'em how he went about sparking his own industrial revolution.

>>96304866
for all his extremely retarded, deadly, and expensive mistakes, he managed to industrialize China which was at that point an agrarian economy

>>96291885
>surpassing
Hah, no. Middle income trap remains strong.

>>96304076
>muh geography
That's why Africa is the most powerful continent in the world!

>>96304076
>Historical and cultural emphasis on education
Pffft, my nigger in the ghetto China was literally stuck in the medieval period up until the 1900s. They were as backwards as backwards got and as little as 15 years ago you could find peasants riding literal ramshackle donkey carts in the road right next to Ferraris.
History and "Culture" didn't mean shit, they pursued Han Chinese Nationalism above all else and changed the law to enforce this. It worked and has made China go from backwater to a contending superpower, despite the inevitable coping I'm about to here about how they cannot compare to a country that struggles to beat rice farmers and goat herders outside of the TV box.

>>96274698
Ye Wenjie’s father’s trial and murder by the red guards is a good intro into what he did.

>>96305238
Oh Chang, you're terribly lucky we're on a blue board. Otherwise there would be hundreds of webms in this very thread disproving your propaganda in unforgettably graphic fashion.

>>96303007
see: >>96297271

>>96274710
/thread

>>96305694
Oh noes, not 20 year old webms of industrial accidents and poorly constructed buildings, things that only ever happen in China! That totally proves that Brazil 2.0 isn't an embarrassment to its own people.

>>96274698
>>96305401
QRD?