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>>96279188 They/Them Edition
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>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025
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>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com
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>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
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Fourty (40) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com
>TQAny card in Spider-Man set that you're looking forward to?
>>96282327 (OP)I forgot to preorder that stupid toy
>>96282335make magic old again
>>96282276>that artifact counter deck>too strongliterally what
but if someone complained about your terra saga deck, they are 100% in the right. it is extremely annoying and time-consuming to track all the triggers and check if you aren't making mistakes in your favor. saga decks are the only decks I refuse to play against.
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>>96282341Fuck yeah, I hope they hire people who can't draw again. We can defend their shitty drawings in 30 years and pretend it's soulful.
>>96282327 (OP)>Any card in Spider-Man set that you're looking forward to?Currently? Not really. Waiting for the Mysterio card. He's the best spidey villain.
>>96282349missing an 'and' in the additional cost
making the 'you lose' part tied only to the additional costs that don't do anything seems kinda like a cop-out.
goad isn't a keyword like flying, when you goad creatures they don't "gain goad." you'd have to say something like "are no longer goaded"
also shove suspected on there somehow
it not about how old the cards is. it's about what WotC wants their artists to draw. pic related is a prime example of a good artists that gets forced more and more to produce corporate slop.
>>96282327 (OP)No commanders with Spider-Man is a big mistake in my opinion. They'll probably never do another set without commanders in two years.
>TQ
I was excited about Doc Ock, then I saw his cards and lost all interest.
I see "slop" I hide the tab.
Simple as,
>>96282373>additional costs that don't do anything seems kinda like a cop-out.Escalate is worded like that
Post coomer shit. Be it proxies or old cards from when wizards was cool
>>96282385>outright refuses to look at modern magic cardsunfathomably based
>>96282390No, I don't think I will.
>>96282375>what? greg does great work, what are you talking about>scyfall by recent>lord of pain, poster rakdos, asscreed, lara croft, doctor who, monty pythonI mean. he's still a very good artist.
>>96282390fine, have a forest I regularly jerk off to
>>96282385aww but I love slop
>>96282390I'm jacking off to this, Poole's probably a furry.
>>96282386I mean you don't get anything for bargaining or kicking, just the option to lose the game.
also technically you might be able to get away with putting all three on the same line, separated by commas.
>>96282402The website generating the card did it like that
>>96282390More coomer stuff for you
>>96282400He's most certainly a giant faggot. Just look at these abs.
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>parnesse, blue braids, show and tell, choice of damnations, dance with calamity
>rex nebula and every robot/mecha/space craft I can fit
>no tutors, rhystic, rift, etc
>’your decks looks like a value pile and would hate playing against you’
>>96282395he undoubtedly is. the problem really is WotC demanding from artists to produce these weird sanitized designs that look like cheap and weird digital comicbook cover illustrations. their entire D&D art sector is overrun by these ugly design choices.
>>96282390Apropos coomer, anybody else saw the webm of this happening irl? Guy was on his back tho
>>96282400At least jack off to the quality stuff. (Captcha is GOYAH)
>>96282425Just look at those muscles, reminds me of old porn mags for fags. Poole is a humongous homosexual.
He's the uncle of the guy who made 4chan by the way.
>>96282425are you asking if anyone watched terrorists executing people
>>96282428Poole makes quality, Fuck you!
Shut the fuck up and get out of here!
>>96282429Could be that Poole traced one of those, devilish, you're outing yourself if you call him out for it. The perfect crime.
I WANT A COMMANDER THAT INTERACTS WITH VANISHING
>>96282355Sure they were shitty but if you think it's "pretending" that a genuine project of passion had more soul than over-retarded-corporate-weiss-schwarz-the-gathering that's on you, buddy.
>>96282477They were not shitty. Didn't you get the memo? We're still pretending that they're good because they're old.
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>cute face
>cute bum
>immune to stealing and removal
>bring back any creature you have
>>96282327 (OP)>Any card in Spider-Man set that you're looking forward to?Not really.
I hate UB but like some of the spiderverse characters, so WotC really had a chance with me, especially since they've finally killed those fuck-ugly UB borders.
But my favorite characters are Gwen Stacey and Carnage
They made 2 fucking monored Gwens which is just fucking terrible. She's not remotely monored, she's actually one of the most level-headed characters in the spiderverse. And to boot, they called one of her cards "Spider Gwen" when that obviously isn't her fucking name in universe, it's the name of the comic and the fan name for her character. In universe she's just Spider Woman or Ghost Spider. There is a Ghost Spider card too, which just makes it confusing. I have no idea why they went with different names for different cards.
Her jeskai card is fine. I think azorius would still be better colors for her, but fine she can be jeskai. Effect is underwhelming.
And then they made a Gwenom card. Again, not the character's fucking name. Only the fans called her Gwenom, it makes no fucking sense for the card to be called that. And the effect is crazy busted, play cards off top deck by paying life. So that'll probably be at least a $20 card if not more.
Carnage's effect is just fucking terrible. He's legendary, but they put "mayhem" on him, which is the set's version of madness, so that whole aspect of his card text is useless to you if you want him as your commander, unless you want to do some convoluted chain to put him into your hand just to discard him. And his main card text is only on ETB and not on attack, so basically he wants to be blinked, in fucking rakdos of all colors. There's not really anything to do with him other than let him die and reanimate him, and there are so many better targets to reanimate there's really no point.
>A full refund has been issued through TCGplayer for order #
>Message Notes from the Seller: Inventory misplaced.
huh. that's a new one on me.
>>96282511>it is imperative that I reply to you to tell you I didn't read your post even though I am not a part of this conversationYour parents will die ashamed of you btw
>>96282517>Saffi's effect works only once. If the target creature dies and is then returned to the battlefield, it's considered to be a new creature. If that new creature dies, it won't come back
>>96282516The funny thing is that I actually DID read it
>>96282517FF added General Leo, which is a bad card, but he has a Sun Titan ETB and I mean you've got Timely Hordemate on there.
>>96282525You're looping Saffi and your pick-one combo piece. Sac Saffi targeting the combo creature. Sac the creature to your sac outlet. Saffi's trigger goes off, returning the creature to the battlefield. The creature's ETB goes off, you target Saffi in your GY. Return Saffi to the battlefield. Goto step 1.
I know I'd be dead by the time I could play this but damn I wanna
>>96282544It's just a shittier Genesis Wave. When green has that much mana, it might as well have double.
>>96282502Okay I was with you until the carnage bit. It’s not convoluted at all to bring creatures from your grave back to hand in black. It just means that if he dies you can put him into the yard and get him back for cheap. You also can play red/black clone spells to make copies to get the effect off. Also if the creature has a tap ability you never have to swing it in. You sound bad.
>>96282544Don't let your memes be dreams, anon.
>>96282517gross but I'm not seeing where
>each opponent sacrifices every creaturecomes from. destroy sure but not sac
>>96282517Legal in bracket 2 btw
>>96282556that's the art for martyr's bond, grave pact's older brother.
>>96282569>casts counterspell
>>96282574c'mon man, it's just 4 life
it's EDH you start with 40, you can pay 8 life
you're a control deck, even if you're starting a little bit behind by losing 12 life you can stablize
you can pay 16 life on turn 2 to keep your hand, it's fine, we get it
Lol at Soifessor saying if you don't watch the ads he's going to have to get a day job
https://youtu.be/TqOHJXpD6Xg?t=1227
20:27
Do it, bitch. No one should expect to make money playing fucking card games on the internet. """Content creators""" have had it too good for too long.
>>96282569I will pay the 28 life AIEEEEE DON'T BURN ME SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!
>>96282608>SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!this meme makes me laugh every fucking time, where did this come from?
>>96282569cant believe you would do that to levar burton
>>96282612HP Lovecraft going insane from colors he doesn't recognize
>>96282612It was making fun of HP Lovecraft writing "indescribable" eldritch horrors that he then proceeds to describe in a way that could be interpreted as only slightly out of the ordinary when you remove the grandiose adjectives.
>>96282628This guy seems like he plays dimir.
>>96282569I refuse to remind bluefags that I have vexing bauble on the battlefield.
You are trying to cast deflecting swat for free? I'll remind you.
Flare of fortitude? I'll remind you
Force of will? Fuck you retard, I'll let you know its countered. No take backs.
>>96282636I'm the one playing Vexing Bauble in my blue deck.
https://moxfield.com/decks/8BbcrofgFUCQQxkZ3b-gLA
thots on this deck so far?
>>96282630Wait really? What's the context of what he described? I'm amused
>>96282506This happened to me me before, don't be a bitch like me and please mention it when you rate them so that this seller gets a worse rating after a while
>command zone finally hosted trannies
Nothing is sacred
>>96282662Too reliant on Maskwood Nexus.
>>96282672Josh Lee Kwai is on trt also called hrt. He's the biggest tranny in that pic.
>>96282569What's an interrupt nowadays? What if I have 0 interrupt cards, but plenty of blue instant cards?
>>96282672the one on the right is hot so it's fine
>>96282672Unfortunately this is the audience that WOTC is cultivating. I don't know if there's a market for a chudpilled MTG tuber.
>>96282569>1996The day when mtg died. Why is that guy black? Didn't wotc know that blacks weren't their biggest playerbase?
>>96282680mirage was actually fine, I love the pan-african/middle-eastern flavor of the whole block
t. chud
>>96282672Are they trannies or drag queens?
>>96282428>>96282400Kill yourself, furfag.
>>96282680That's a year, not a day. I don't think arabs are a big MTG audience either but we still got Arabian Nights...
>>96282689MATING PRESS NICOL BOLAS
>>96282686You're the first one to get culled when the race wars happen, we can't have retards like you in our ranks.
t. white supremacist
>>96282630I don't get why he's so popular. I bought his complete works and only could get through half of it because it felt like he kept writing the same story over and over again.
>>96282688There is literally no difference between those two other than the amount of time they spend pretending to be a woman. Both will talk about supporting the "trans community" etc.
I wish more women would view drag shit as gender-based blackface, but unfortunately normie women fucking love seeing men act outrageously gay because it feels safer than masculinity.
If you can say "you ate that, gurrrrrl!" to some dude with his face painted like a clown, he probably won't rape you.
>>96282672Drag queens aren't trannies. They identify as men, they just like dressing like women.
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>>96282693Too bad. Mirage is a perfect example of what I'd actually want to see done if you're already pursuing an agenda of "diversity." It was an earnestly made fantasy setting that didn't say SEE LOOK AFRICAN BLACK PEOPLE THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE SOME OTHER THING THING BUT WITH BLACK PEOPLE or resort to hatshit or forced inclusion.
>>96282711That's real fucking neato you just linking to you being wrong.
>>96282710No problem, I know that dullards like you will always have excuses. You will get killed by one of your own. For the betterment of the human race
>>96282717Cry about it, troon.
>>96282699Is he popular? I think he's influential among creative types i.e. they love ripping him off, but not really popular in the general sense.
>>96282675And the other gook got gender affirming surgery recently (hair plugs)
>>96282733>>96282699He pioneered cosmic horror as a genre, published it at just the right time (and in the right magazine) to get noticed, and was also a friend of other authors and co-contributor to a shared universe (he was happy anyone would write stories in his genre/world and created one of the first essentially open source settings)
>>96282602He could just fire one of his 7 employees and downsize, but one of his best friends is Josh and Lee Kwai and they're both very very dumb and think behaving like cancer (growing and growing and growing) is the only way to be successful.
>>96282733That would be my assessment yes.
>>96282748Yeah but no one actually READS Lovecraft anymore. People know Cuthulu, they know the names Shadow Over Innsmouth and The Dunwich Horrow, and maybe some of the sillier sounding names like Shub-Niggurath. If you're a fucking weeb you might know Nyarlathotep. If you're a turbo nerd you might know "Cthulhu fhtagn"
But people aren't reading Lovecraft themselves, they're absorbing these concepts through derivative media like the dozens of Cthulhu video games, RPGs like Call of Cthulhu and shit like that.
It's a bit like how everyone pretty much knows how Frankenstein goes but you're unlikely to meet someone who's read it.
>>96282602the absolute entitlement of this fat bitch
>>96282772Mindflayers are most likely ripped off from Lovecraft, it's in DND and it's in mtg now.
>>96282764>they're both very very dumb and think behaving like cancer (growing and growing and growing) is the only way to be successful.Every fucking "content creator" is like this and it gets so tiresome.
That retard Maldavius Figtree PAYS his Twitch jannies, he boasts about giving them health insurance and dental etc. And then when he fucks up and loses huge chunks of his audience he starts bitching about how being mean to him is going to put his employees out of work.
It was never a sane thing to arrange for people to be financially dependent on you in return for moderating your fucking live chat.
But they all think they can do it. They all think they can become a real company like Rooster Teeth. What happened to Rooster Teeth? Oh they expanded to a staff of hundreds, pushed out some very mediocre original animations and went bankrupt.
>>96282699That's interesting, can you tell me more about how Mountains of Madness and Dunwich Horror are the same story?
>>96282733His influence and reach is insane. He is pretty much the grandfather of depictions of cults summoning dark beings in all major modern pop-cultures. He wrote stories about old alien cultures hidden in Antarctica, about alien reptilians living beneath the earth and humans being their cattle, and about influence of elder beings slowly corrupting you until you do their bidding.
>>96282795>He is pretty much the grandfather of depictions of cults summoning dark beings in all major modern pop-cultures. He wrote stories about old alien cultures hidden in Antarctica, about alien reptilians living beneath the earth and humans being their cattle, and about influence of elder beings slowly corrupting you until you do their bidding.All of that sounds very generic and not something that he invented at all. He probably just popularized those ideas amongst nerds.
Sounds like you're not very familiar with the occult, mythology, history, fantasy and science fiction.
>>96282645It should be another nonland permanent you control
And Paul should be placed under an opponent's control.
>>96282772>Yeah but no one actually READS Lovecraft anymoreyou can say that about any author. people don't read LOTR, they watch the movies (I'm guilty of that despite being an avid reader). how many people do you think read Neuromancer, the bible to all things cyberpunk related?
the question was why Lovecraft is popular, you got your answer.
>>96282795>His influence and reach is insane. He is pretty much the grandfather of...Anon, you're not responding to what was said.
That anon clearly made a distinction between being INFLUENTIAL and being POPULAR
You can be influential in that lots of things now rip you off, but how popular is your work now?
Classic example, Superman. Wildly INFLUENTIAL on superheroes, on hero origin stories, inspired direct rip offs like Dragonball Z. But how POPULAR is Superman today? What are the sales of Superman comics like? How high does Superman rank on lists of favorite heroes? I wouldn't be surprised if he was no longer even top 5.
If you want a weebier example, Fist of the North Star was insanely influential on battle manga, but it was totally eclipsed by derivatives like JoJo's and dozens of other battle manga and anime since then. They all owe so much to Fist of the North Star and some of them even have direct references to it, but it's influenced has far outstripped its popularity.
>>96282791The videos of prof went down in quality after he hired more people and he stopped making videos that made him popular in the first place: reviews of sleeves and boxes.
Yuriko + Cultist of the Absolute
Combo, or nombo?
>>96282800>All of that sounds very genericonly because you have been exposed to his ideas thousands of times via pop-culture by now
>Sounds like you're not very familiar withcorrect. there are so many works out there, I could never read them all. if you have some recommendations of cosmic horror before Lovecraft, I'll gladly look into it.
>>96282806DBZ isn't a rip of superman, it's an extremely fucked adaptation of an old Chinese story.
>>96282806And FoTNS ripped off mad max and mad max didn't invent post-apocalyptic stories. And then you get to the ultimate conclusion which is that all stories have been told already.
>>96282808Many such cases!
I was never much of a fan of his but I'll always remember this video from a year or two ago where his tranny script writer wrote in a reference to something and then wrote in a joke about him not knowing what it is because he's old. I don't even fucking remember what it was, I just remember it being so jarring watching this guy openly say that he lets someone else put words in his mouth even if he doesn't know what they're talking about
>>96282812>cosmic horrorSuch a useless descriptor. Like so many other "genres" that dumbass nerds like you love.
>>96282815Does your skull have a dent in it? Like Goku himself, were you dropped on your head as an infant?
DRAGONBALL is Journey to the West, yes.
DRAGONBALL *Z* is Superman.
It literally retcons Goku to be one of the last surviving members of his superpowered race that was sent to Earth alone in a pod before his planet exploded. Are you fucking dumb?
>>96282816Okay really not relevant to the question of whether Lovecraft is still popular today regardless of how influential he admittedly was.
>>96282806>not popular in the general sense, but influentiallovecraft is no football star, but he is extremely well known in various niches. hell, I only know about him and started to read his stories because everyone keeps talking about him all the time on various boards. that guy is a star around here and even has his own memes.
>>96282819He makes videos about the state of modern even though he doesn't play modern. It's very off-putting.
>>96282812Call of Cthulhu was published less than 30 years after War of the Worlds. And before War of the Worlds, the genre of Science fiction didn't really exist Outside of Spring Heeled Jack
Most of the "Nerd" genres of media are really fucking recent in the grand scheme of things.
>>96282829Again I don't think you're grasping the fucking distinction here.
Yes people know Lovecraft, people know some of the contents of his work, but who today is absorbing those contents first hand rather than becoming aware of them through derivative works and never really bothering to engage with Lovecrafts actual work?
>>96282826Dragonball is all just one story, you anime watching failure. There is no distinction between db and dbz in the manga. Toriyama retconned it himself. It's also heavily influenced by Jackie Chan movies.
>>96282829I read a shit load of his stories in high school
Though admittedly that wasn't exactly recent.
>>96282830Oh yeah I think that was another thing I remember him saying. That his tranny editor plays some format he doesn't so he just lets them make points about that format using him as a mouthpiece.
I couldn't do it. I could not fucking repeat someone else's opinions as if they were my own, especially not without verifying them first.
>>96282834Were Goku's origins in the original dragonball even firmly established enough to have him being an alien be a retcon?
>>96282834>Dragonball is all just one story, you anime watching failure.Hahahaaaa it's not. It's not at all.
It's a dozen stories in a trench coat.
>Toriyama retconned it himself.Yes and he retconned Goku's entire backstory to be almost a 1 to 1 rip off of Superman. Are you disputing this, yes or no?
>>96282842I said also, you braindead retard. Yes, he ripped off superman, so what?
>>96282851>Yes, he ripped off superman, so what?Okay, fucking great. So you retract what you said here
>>96282815>DBZ isn't a rip of supermanYes or no?
>>96282833>who today is absorbing those contents first handthe same people who did it decades ago: nerds who are thirsty for ideas over academic prowess.
>>96282840Akira Toriyama is extremely based. He hated working and did everything last minute. He never thought about Goku's story from start to finish and just had time skips happen whenever he ran out of ideas. He tried to end Dragon Ball multiple times and Shonen Jump showed up with bigger piles of money each time
>hehe, I'll fucking kill Goku, they will understand that the story is over now>well, this is a lot of money>fuck it, resurrect him>make it ambiguous this time (not really, the whole fucking planet blew up)etc.
>>96282705>Drag queens aren't trannies.>They identify as men>they just like dressing like women.>>>>>>>>>>>>They identify as men
>>96282855Not me. Multiple people can reply to different posts of yours, idiot.
So I won't retract what somebody else said
I try to find cephalid in scryfall but it doesn't come out, what did they change it to?
>>96282873>Not meVery convenient
>Multiple people can reply to different posts of yours, idiot.Yeah and when you do so and don't declare that you're doing it, it's going to be assumed you agree with everything that has been said by the other person you're interjecting on behalf of.
Fucking newfag redditors istg.
>>96282868More of a pirates of the caribbean ripoff than anything else really.
>>96282877Squid or Octopus. Can't quite recall which cephalopod they chose.
>>96282878Basically no one on this site bothers declaring that they aren't someone else.
You're also getting weirdly butthurt about what amounts to nothing.
>>96282878Your retarded post about db and dbz is still retarded. I'm so sorry that you were wrong about this and that I called you out, go back, because you don't understand how 4chan works. Reddit with its usernames might be more your speed.
>>96282888>Basically no one on this site bothers declaring that they aren't someone elseI can see how you'd think that since you're so new.
People say "NTA" for "not that anon". Now you know!
>>96282888Some newfag started samefagging years ago adding "nta" while sucking themself off or defending themself. Like that matters. Oh you wrote "nta" that proves it.
>>96282899It's just something people say and getting mad about it as if it somehow belongs to a samefag is retarded.
>>96282895Don't see my boi Aboshan so I just ignore the page.
>>96282901Getting mad that multiple people reply to you without writing 'nta' is way more retarded, like you're proving right now.
Stay mad.
Someone replied to my post and now I'm mad. Commanders for this feel?
>>96282892Yeah. Rarely.
I genuinely can't remember the last time I've seen someone bother to do that or do so myself.
anyone run mass land destruction? I usually run a simic land hate deck that runs all the additional land plays and graveyard land plays with strip mine and wasteland with stormtide tsunami combo as a big fuck you to land ramp players and value lands like coffers three tree city etc
>>96282910Angry omnath.
Or Gargos
>>96282909I ain't mad about shit. You jump in on someone else's conversation and then bitch about something that person said being attributed to you.
Try and flip this all you want, all you needed to do to save your own butt from hurting was type 3 letters
>>96282911Boy sure would be embarrassing if it was used twice in the previous thread.
>>96279992>>96282256
>>96282912So if I'm reading this correctly, you use strip mine and wasteland on yourself?
>>96282911Wdym?
Typing nta is definitive proof that you're not that anon every oldfag knows that. And since it's not really appearing in these threads... And we're currently in a general where nta isn't appearing every often...
Oh my god, this can only mean,...
OH nooooOooOooooOOOO
Save me NIGGERMAN
>>96282923nta, but I like Lovecraft. hope he releases some new stuff soon.
>>96282920And not a single time in this very thread which means only one person has been posting in this thread. You're very smart.
I'm you by the way.
>>96282928Tolkien heard Welsh and thought "elves", Lovecraft heard Welsh and thought "monsters", ever think about that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrkgdj0bVAo
>>96282920You know, this is the second time in two weeks that I've had someone try to argue against the statement "I haven't seen X"
Obviously both times were completely retarded and wrong, but it's weird that I've gone from having had someone try to argue that I HAVE in fact seen something that I haven't 0 times in my life to having it done twice in as many weeks.
But yeah, I wasn't in the previous thread ya fuckin' idiot.
You're also totally mad and clearly have been from the start. No one gets that fuckin' aggressive straight out of the gate without some serious buttblasting.
>>96282920I just wanted to shit into your mouth because you're a retard and said something completely wrong about dragon ball, not my problem that you assumed that I was the other guy. Stay mad.
>>96282925that is one of the most evil commanders I have ever seen. why isn't he more popular?
>>96282936Because you could just run a kill spell
>>96282929>>96282931>>96282934>>96282935>get mad about being mistaken for someone else>get told you should have "NTA"d if it bothers you>say no one does that on this board>"actually yes they do">okay they do but it's rare>"actually it happened twice just hours ago">get mad about being proven wrongLil bro is crashing out
>>96282921no I just blow up peoples lands that give a ton of value like urborg, coffers, sanctums, the new edge station lands, etc
>>96282936He's an old card and also a retard test.
For the entire table, since his ability affects your shit too. Including himself so he's extremely fragile.
>>96282933no, I know nothing about england besides GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND
>>96282934He's a lunatic and thinks writing nta means you're not that anon. Similarly he thinks that writing "i-im not mad" is enough to convince sane people that you're not mad. He's mistaken.
You just said that you didn't read the last thread which is obviously impossible according to him because he reads every post in this general or something, I don't know. He's crazy.
>>96282936Very salt-inducing.
>>96282943ah yeah, next to no way of protecting him
>>96282939>Lil bro is crashing outYour crash out has been amazing so far, but keep going.
>>96282920I have 3 letters for you, schizo
kys
>>96282939Jesus Christ, you're actually fucking doubling down on your argument.
>>96282944Wales isn't England. Scotland isn't England either. They're nations within the country of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
There is a massive mistake in this video, where he says the constituent parts of the UK are sovereign countries, they're not at all. Sovereignty exists in states, the only state is the UK. Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland do not have sovereignty and cannot strictly write their own laws. They're devolved powers that are granted the right to write a limited scope of their own laws by Westminster the seat of the UK Parliament.
>>96282961He knows who's a samefag and who isn't, you can't fool him, because he's our resident lolcow, don't mind him
>>96282954Gift of Doom is the only method I know of that can actually work in color. But it's also an immensely telegraphed play since it's a card with morph and you HAVE to morph it in order for it to actually work.
>>96282968Correct. It's multiple people laughing at (You) for having a meltdown over nothing.
>>96282920Second post is mine and refutes your whole idea and usefulness of writing nta, because the schizo still didn't believe me and thought I still was that anon. Horrible example, that's why I don't use it most of the time, because it won't work with deranged mongoloids like that guy in the other thread. Why bother with that in the first place then?
>>96282969There's a convoluted line involving Mycosynth Lattice and an artifact creature that gives shroud to other artifact creatures but you need to protect that creature first with Boots or something similar before dropping Horobi.
>>96282968You crying because multiple people didn't type nta is a meltdown, yes.
>>96282986Apologies it's actually hexproof
I really like the premise of a singleton format like edh, but holy fuck! the thought of having to shuffle 100 sleeved cards just puts me off. Also, keeping track of commander damage alongside regular damage just seems like a pain, especially when you're already going to be trying to keep track of a pretty complex board state with 4 players. Surely there must be a better way to have a kitchen sink/casual/budget friendly-ish social mtg format that doesn't involve and unwieldy 100 card deck?
>>96282968So you believe everyone who says that he's not that anon, but you don't believe somebody when they say that they're not crashing out. Again, proving that it's generally worthless to type "nta", but it's especially useless when somebody's replying to your posts and adds nta because you can just decide that it's still the same person
>>96282672>How is this going to help us sell cards?>Cards?
>>96283002Command zone is selling cards with those videos, since when? It's a gameplay video first and foremost
>>96282517post more of these.
>>96282961He unironically needs to go back.
He's clearly accustomed to reddit and every post having a username.
ONE MINUTE CEDH DECK TECH FOR
>>96283004They’re sponsored by Wizards of the Coast you fucking idiot
>>96282337>tfw 3 hours later and no "I RECOGNIZE THAT BULGE!" postThis site has gone to shit I tell you hwat
>>96282899Reminds me of newfags starting greentext stories with
>be meWho else would you be? Fucking idiots.
>>96282806>DBZ>Direct rip offretard
>>96283041>I RECOGNIZE THAT BULGE!" post>This site has gone to shit I tell you hwatOne of the most blatantly samefagged things of all time, thank God that nobody bothered to reheat that stupid shit
>post a pic>"react to it" I recognize that bulgeSure you did, you posted
>samefag some epic reaction images >nice, another epic 4chan moment, time to screenshot it No captcha required to post back in the day. Forget about it.
>>96283051Dragon Ball started with DBZ, everyone knows this. DB wouldn't be popular without directly ripping off superman with a later manga while the old manga had nothing to do with superman and was already super successful... Wait. shut the fuck up. I'm NOT HAVING a meltdown, OKAY?????
>>96283062he not really cute
>>96282544Don't let your dreams be dreams, I love it in my Ruric thar and if you go all-in it's a neat deckbuilding exercise.
Also if you want to be cheeky you can cheat it with Possibility storm and adventure cards
I start playing his theme on my phone right before I cast him and wipe all the trash off the board
>>96283041Oh, I didn't even bother looking at the card since it's Marvel slop
Which is the way, pixie fucker?
What happens when a card has persist and undying
My favorite genre of retard in these threads are the people who will lose an argument and then go on for literal hours after the fact about how wrong and mad the person they lost to is
>>96283098Talion goes in the Alela deck. Pretty much all the legendary dimir fairies do. I’d leave Nymris and Oona out though. Wydwyn is a fun include you might not have thought of
I know, right? I just need to have the last word. I'm totally not owned here.
I wrote 'I'm not mad" hours ago. I won.
>>96283106order the triggers as you like, second resolves, first fizzles because the second already removed the card from gy
>>96282869That's why he probably copied super-man, being lazy and all.
>>96283134He didn't copy Superman since people actually like DBZ
>>96282939>get mad about being mistaken for someone elseThis never happened by the way
I get why this one guy keeps posting that doctor who image now.
>>96283140He admits it in interviews. He copied Jackie Chan movies. The rebellious young guy(Jackie, Goku) the old weird master with strange training techniques. Just look at Goku's outfit and old Jackie movies. The clothing is very similar. Same thing with Superman
good morning. so, about that invoke prejudice
>no, mom, you don't get it, I'm a tough internet racist because, get this, I like cardboard with images on it that were deemed racist a couple of years by the wizards of the coast, I'm such a tough guy on the interne- mooooom, don't go away now, I'm sooooo cool
>db copies superman
>superman copies vegeta and nappa in man of steel
I wish somebody would make a dragonball movie that took its time building its characters with a huge budget, but making anime is just cheaper and more profitable instead of a live action movie.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96283153Yeah, but if he copied superman, people wouldn't care about DBZ, since that's the most important aspect of superman, that no one cares about him anymore.
>>96283167I'm fine with Animation. The idea that every animated series NEEDS a live action adaptation when it gets big enough is fucking retarded anyways and solely exists because people are too dumb to understand the advantages animation has over live action. Namely that there's far fewer limits on what can feasibly be done.
>>96283182Ah, finally a deck for those erudite connoisseurs who enjoy eating rocks
>>96283185Dragon Ball especially Z and later has some of the worst animation in the business. The mangas are all better.
>>96283182this but Mycosynth Lattice so it steals their lands too
>>96283197Then for a movie they should condense an arc from one of the things and give it good animation.
>>96283198This man REALLY wants to eat rocks.
>start putting cards I want into the deck
>no room for lands, removal, interaction, etc.
I have too many themes I want to run without enough support and it turns into a weird mishmash...
https://moxfield.com/decks/HYJF0aUL7EyEBa0FlXnJAg
>>96283223trip back on swordfag
>>96282672Literally had a Drag Racing set in Aetherdrift. Did this for Edge of Eternity. Missed opportunity you sluts.
>mfw a yugioh player dunked the professor on his own game
KEK
https://youtube.com/shorts/fWa9lB3RYoE
>>96283244swordfag's decks all cost $10000
>>96283266however: space is fake and gay
>>96282831>before War of the Worlds, the genre of Science fiction didn't really existThis is bunk. Not only did H.G. Wells write science fiction stories prior to publishing War of the Worlds (The Time Machine, The Island of Dr. Moreau, The Invisible Man), loads of stories from antiquity and medieval times would be counted as sci-fi if not for the fact that they were Jules Verne-levels ahead of their time. The Ramayana talks about flying machines and bombs that are so powerful they can decimate a city, and that epic was written before Christ! The Tempest is functionally a mad scientist story for all its invocations of sorcery. Gulliver's Travels, Frankenstein, Vril, and lest we forget: the aforementioned Jules Verne. We thinking 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea is a fantasy novel? No bitch, it's sci-fi!
>>96282705drag is the worst form of clown right behind mimes
>>96283316>still seethingIt's simple, this doesn't count because it's not called cosmic horror
>>96283324I'm a whole ass different anon, but you're right that I'm seething at you being an extremely poorly read cocksucker. Swine.
>>96283272And he was never invited again after that
>>96283329>didn't type 3 simple letters:ntaYou lost, newfag
>>96283204Anime fans have no standards and are some of the worst slop enjoyers of all time.
>>96283244He doesn't have the trip, essentially typing nta. So that's enough.
Goodnight edh
See you tomorrow.
Ok negroids, im about to buy a mat with a design on it, do u have any good recomendations?
If not, ill go with some random design like pic related.
>>96283244any black deck without chains isn't his, nigga puts that in everything.
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>>96283434Friend of mine got like 5 mats like this and he didnt check the size so they are all mousemats.
Get something fun
>>96283434For you big boy
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>>96283434Get a mat that has regions marked out for the battlefield but with lands in front of the creatures and other things like that
is there a token like card for the meld mechanic or do i have to unsleeve my cards everytime? or even proxy the meld face?
>>96283159but I wanna play the card with a nonracist alt, strawman-kun
>>96283494>mfw players won't let me play my dual faced lands as a land without actually flipping the card over
>>96283098Talion draws you cards so he is better.
It's really that simple.
>>96283462okay this map layout is making me mad. why would they design a city like this? are they retards? there are way too few parkin slots, the crosswalks go nowhere. hell in many places they go right NEXT to a road. and then there is that school backyard. dear god how many children are just gonna run in to the traffic because there are NO FENCES
I could go on all day but in short this playmat SUCKS and your childhood SUCKS and I didn't want one anyway as a kid
>>96283062Generally not seen as playable but if you're in mono-Green on Golgari and you're legitimately starving for on stack interaction due to your local meta it's certainly an option that exists lol.
>>96282800>why does all this sound genericI'm sure it couldn't be because people copied the groundwork he laid out or something. It's the same way LOTR is generic because it we the father of a lot of fantasy tropes
>>96282825It's not a hard concept to grasp, retard-kun. Cosmic Horror means that the story probably isn't going to involve just a dude breaking into a home and torturing the people there. Calling it cosmic horror upfront means you'll have some vague notion on what's in store
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This old bird wizard is still my favourite commander. Fucking great card man
Can the Stormsinger sees the myriad tokens if I order the stack as to let the Genasi's trigger resolved first?
Having a blast playing a populate-focused Terra. No one expects suddenly having 3 or 4 Bahamuts, with one immediately triggering its last ability for 30-40 damage.
>>96282630Thats not it lol
>>96282693White supremacists dont cry over magic anon. Youre a 21 year old guy who was bored or had no friends during trumps first 4 years and you never figured out how to actually make something of your beliefs so you cry online
T. Actual white supremacist
>>96282873>heh I seamlessly slipped into this conversation and made no effort to make it obvious I was a different person going so far as to pick up right where I (I mean he) left off!>retard how couldn't you tell?!!?You lost lol
>>96283573Such an awesome and unique ability.
Can be built to any bracket.
Definitely one of the all times.
>>96283041>the first thing he does when he sees a woman is to look for a weenusI'm glad I don't have to live wherever you live where this has become a necessary life skill
>>96282889So has the original anon jumped back in to get angry here or is the "different" anon just really dumb and couldn't keep up the facade for more than one post lmao
>youre wrong>okay youre right but im a different person>hahaha your WRONG postMake it make sense.
>>96282400No probably about it
>>96283640>really enjoying my pushed 5 color shitCool ff fag no one asked
>build very tight aggro deck
>curve is basically 2.50
>few 4-5 mana cards and they all help me finish the game
>opening dream hand
>curve out perfectly
>removing any permanents that threaten my board
>I'm the fucking king this deck is amazing
>player shits out petal - Sol Ring - Farewell
>can't do anything because all my protection is hexproof and indestructible and regenerate and recursion
I pray every day that Gavin and Maro get Luigi'd for putting this shit in the game.
>>96283098I want new Faerie cards that support casting shit on other people's turns to put in my Alela deck. I know in the next Lorwyn set they'll make like 4 tops and take faeries down an entirely different route because they just can't stop themselves from being retarded.
>>96283062I run it in every green deck, even if I also have blue
your opponent looks at you, sees you only have one green up, and decides it's safe to path your commander. their face when you counterspell it is funny every damn time.
>>96283716I asked and I cared
>>96283772Cheers my bad then
>>96283737I mean we did get high fae trickster in foundations last year, so considering a flash faerie that gives everything flash being part of foundation, at least you can have some hope
>>96283640>saga commanderthe collective hate against these pushed durdle commanders is uniting people similar to the hatred of jews. I have never seen players get this much hate at tables, every single removal goes their way at all times just so nobody has to wait 15 minutes for the durdler to resolve his 13 sagas.
>>96283900I feel like I've seen rooms get hated on more, in person at least.
>>96283907I have yet to encounter a rooms deck
has eoe been the deadest of dead releases this year? even aetherdrift had more comments about new cards.
>>96282772>Yeah but no one actually READS Lovecraft anymore.Unless its forced on a HS curriculum, no normie will read a book more than 30 years old, and thats being generous.
Lovecraft is popular among creatives, because his ideas were novel, and his writing style was very unique(though its quality is up for debate). Lovecraft's works have an inherit artistic value to them that more technically impressive writings don't due to the nature of their construction, which makes them a wellspring of inspiration for creatives.
>>96283969the skellie reanimator, star charts, the endstone, new tezz, etc. etc. etc.
>>96283494Double sleeve them with a clear inner sleeve so even when you do have to flip, they still have protection.
If you don't want to double sleeve the whole deck, just declare a rule 0 and have both those in the command zone and treat them like Partners.
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>>96283730Farewell and mass board exile in general is why I have a "fuck you, man" Tibalt's Trickery in all my decks that are either full red or splashed in red. I get why Farewell is kind of a necessary card but man is it a pain in the dick against my equipment deck
>mfw drew trickery 1 turn after the mass exile last time I played
>>96283730>I overextended and lost!
I'm thinking of building this weasel. Does anybody have some experience with this deck?
I want to make a 5 color deck with angels and goad as its main focus but fuck me I have a hard enough time with tri colors. Not sure how I'll swing 5 mana just yet
>>96282889You lost, it doesn't matter that I embarrassed myself, okay? He won. Why are you so angry?
>>96284354>I want to make 5c slop with a slop tribe
>>96284437Blow your fat autistic head off with a shotgun you small brained nigger faggot
Any other good shuffle in effects besides this guy? I want to keep my creatures in my grave, but put back everything else.
>>96284493It's like wanting to play 5c dragons. Like, yeah, you can. Go ahead. But it's embarrassing to talk about.
>>96284556God forbid I want to play the Innstrand sisters together in a thematic deck you mumble mouth sissy
>>96284533It's not an all at once thing but I like this working for me slow and steady
>sent my custom tokens off to print
im excited
>>96282710It's the same reason Mirrodin is good. They made the set because african imagery and culture was fucking cool applied to fantasy.
Now it's fantasy wakanda and WHOA CURRY BUNS AMIRIGHT which is infuriating
>>96282544>hits rampant grow
>>96284640Perfect, as I am doing this in a token deck.
>>96283182sell me rock lobster besides this meme interaction
If I only have enough money to buy an optimal land/rocks base for one three-color combination, which one should I commit to in order to have the most interesting and variable commander options?
>bragged to my friends I had a couple new decks built
>got too drunk this week and forgot
Think I can slop some decks together in an hour bros?
>>96282517One of my favorite things to do with this is blow up everyone's lands, enchantments, planeswalkers and artifacts with Acidic Slime.
>>96284820naya I think is the best on options since you can easily do most deck archetypes with the color combos
>>96284820Anything with green so you can land ramp and mana dorks to help color fix.
>>96283588When triggers have the same clause (i.e "Whenever this creature attacks") you may stack them in whichever order you like.
>>96282327 (OP)Why does the French translation use a colon instead of a dash in the creature type line?
>>96282506Best Ebay fumble ive had was getting all the commander decks for MOM when I ordered a box. Told the seller and sent a pic, he said my bad, keep em, then sent the box. My inner jew was quite happy
>>96284945its a style thing
>>96284826Mono green is easy enough to build on the fly
>>96284826Why would you lie about something like that? Do you think the ability to slap 100 cards together is such an impressive feat it's worth the risk of being outted as a liar?
How many boardwipes do you fit in your decks?
>>96285054Usually 2 unless my deck benefits more from it
>>96283565You're very uninformed about fantasy and sci-fi stories of the past, it's fine, you can learn about it
>order TCG direct
>one card missing
>one card is completely different from what I ordered
Glad they busted that union.
>>96285102You've rated them poorly on the order, right? You're not just venting here about it, I hope.
>>96285113I've contacted them first to see if they'll resolve the issue.
>>96284945It also uses "and" between each creature type.
>>96285054depends on the deck but usually 3-4
>>96283572>It's not a hard concept to grasp, retard-kun.Never said or implied any of this, mongoloid.
>>962850546 asymmetrical wipes.
Gotta remind Timmy of his place after all.
>>96282327 (OP)>Any card in Spider-Man set that you're looking forward to?Only Spiderpunk.
>>96285054Usually just 2 or 3. Avacyn deck has 8 or 9. That's down from its high of 14 wipes.
>>96284820I dont know what's interesting to you anon
>>96284826Zoomers are so fucking weird. You cant brag about something you didnt do. You just lied.
>>96285054More than 3 and im in shitter territory usually just 2
>>96283062It's good against good players but less good because 90% of players are slack-jawed morons that only run boardwipes and value
>>96285092how do you even control with only 2??
>Player at my table goes Land->Sol Ring->Arcane Signet
>I tell him he's being a fucking idiot for running mana rocks because he's going to clog on them lategame and the ones he plays early are just going to eat a stray Vandalblast
>Next guy plays Rite of Flame into Walking Atlas
>I look at my hand
>Literally nothing that can stop him from snowballing to a win because MLD is banned
>I inform the table we need to gang up on the guy with Walking Atlas because he's going to stomp the table with his land ramp
>They all look at me like I'm crazy and say for some reason we need to focus the guy with some useless mana rocks
>Whatever, I'm way better anyway, I'll do it myself
>Few turns pass
>Mana rocks guy plays an Isochron Scepter then imprints Dramatic Reversal, plays some irrelevant creatures and leaves himself with 2 lands in hand
>I'm thinking about how he's a fucking idiot because he's just overcommitting to the board
>Finally I'm ready to stop the real threat of the table
>Play Enlightened Tutor to get Crucible of Worlds
>Play Crucible of Worlds and Strip Mine
>Start taking out the lands of the guy with Walking Atlas
>He asks me what the fuck I'm doing playing MLD against him when there's another threat at the table
>I inform him that he is the threat because he's ramping, and this isn't MLD, it's a lock
>He gives me the look of some sub-50 IQ greennigger that can't understand why playing the most OP color ever invented means you need to be focused
>He just scoops it up and leaves
>Table tries to console him for some reason. He was about to run away with the game and I stopped him
>Artifacts guy says he's going to win next turn and he doesn't know why I tunneled the guy for just playing a Walking Atlas
>I link him my YouTube video about how land ramp is literally unstoppable and green is overpowered
>The two remaining players give me the green player look
>>962852565 mana rocks in two colors
as shrimple as that
>>96285204Nah, just fuck all lands that aren't mine.
Do we know what the MAR cards are going to be?
>>96285054I have one settle the wreckage and that's it. I should rectify that at some point but that's a problem for future me
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>>96283434>balloon man players
>>96285054a friend of mine had 5/6 boardwipes plus armageddon. and to him true boardwipes meant "exile all creatures"
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>>96285281I like pic rel and elesh
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96285046>>96285176No I have the cards I just haven't sleeved the decks and found the lands yet
>>96285361>that playmatkys 'jeet lover
>>96285372Too much love to give to kill myself.
Love you buddy.
>>96285281I like my lands how I like my women.
Blacked.
>>96285389So this is just super blood moon? Why does nobody play it?
>>96285366Cool, I have a big stack of bricks in my shed so I guess I can say I've built a path and a fire pit
>>96285256>PseudoIntellectual EDHtuber #1758697I hope every single one of these faggots. Every. Single. One. Catches incurable mouth herpes from all the cock they love sucking.
>>96285452Gotta have something giving consistent sac fodder.
I had it in my black punisher/stax deck, but I just didn't play enough creatures/creature generators to make it work. But now that I think about it, something like Dreadhorde Invasion would let me keep it up effectively for 1 life per turn.
>>96285389That legit feels like a 'counter or just might as well scoop' card if the other guy can generate tokens to ice at a decent pace
>>96285256It's MLD after destroying/denying 3 or 4 lands. Using strip mine like that is MLD. This was talked about since the brackets were announced
Based summary of that shitty Youtuber otherwise
>>96285519>>96285452Its all lands all amounts so you need your own setup to not be locked out as well.
Multi color decks dont really want it because they could invariably fuck themselves and mono black isn't the best 'hard control' package to want this.
That being said yeah its black super blood moon if you have token generators and no one has any answer or fixing rocks
>>96285543I'm referencing his "how bad is Spelltable?" video where he joined a table that said "no combos" then tries to argue that infinitely looping Mindslaver is a lock, not a combo, then expresses indignation that the table didn't understand his logic.
>>96285559So he's just constantly wrong. Might be fun to watch this guy ironically. To laugh at him
>>96285463I didn't lie, I'm an alcoholic.
>>96285546>fixing rocksWell, since it's a replacement effect, things like Chromatic Orb still won't allow the lands to tap for anything but B. But if they have something like "whenever you tap a Forest, generate an extra G" that still works (they'd get 1 B and 1 G) since Contamination doesn't mess with the land types.
>>96285573I think he just means any mana rock that taps for a color it doesn't require to cast (e.g. Talisman/Signet)
>>96285578Ah yeah, of course, heavy mana rock decks will still be playable.
>ruins everyone's gamenight in you parh
when will this card be addressed?!
>>96285570Never give sloptubers free views
>>96285642Unironically the biggest mistake since companions, and those at least got erratad.
>>96285642i wonder how long until get unexilable as a keyword
Anyone ever play with the Warhammer 40K decks? I found my old Abaddon the Despoiler pre built deck and I want to go play Commander for the first time at my LGS
>>96285656We're already getting "leaves the battlefield" triggers and there's precedent for dodging exile removal now. At that point we'll start seeing "exile face-down" on some dogshit 3-mana sorcery and you'll still have to run it.
>>96285642>nooooo you have to let me kill you it's not fair to have removal
>>96285673>6 mana with the potential to delete everything but lands is the same thing as extending too much and getting hit with a creature wipe
>>96285661Necron is probably the best deck out of the box. If course, it benefits from mono-B and artifact goodstuff upgrades.
Tyranids are really good for classic Gruul stompy with a bit of tweaking.
Abby needs a deck built around helping him Cascade. Be'lacuck also makes a good demon tribal commander.
Imperium deck either goes Aristocrats or Clue Tokens with Greyfax or just tokens for days with Fisty Smurf Calgar.
>>96285656They won't do "unexilable" instead like other anon said cards now trigger on death or exile. Which by proxy makes all other exile even worse.
>>96285642There was a boardwipe?
>>96285722>My commander doesn't do anything but not "die"I mean, not really worth it.
>order card
>it arrives
>It's foil
>check my order
>I ordered foil
What the hell?
>>96285642I think either exile needs toned down just a bit on how often it shows up in new cards, or more cards need created that let you phase specific equipped/target creatures for colors other than white. Heroic intervention, one of my favorite instants, is getting worse with every exile card created and the thought of how Avacyn, once one of my favorite late game cards, is pretty much worthless now that there's so many ways indestructible can be ignored feels bad, man
>>96285804The reason exile is showing up so often is because of how much shit has death triggers and recursion. Not to mention cards that randomly have indestructible printed on them for no reason.
>>96285864Dark Confidant
Noble Hierarch
Birds of Paradise (of course)
Lotus Cobra
Cerodon Yearling (vigilance and haste make it a great equipment target)
Steppe Lynx
Goblin Bushwhacker
Goblin Guide
Plated Geopede
>>96285864Remember when Doomed Traveler caused discussions on whether it was significant powercreep
I think what causes durdle is blink strategies...
>>96285864The one I love seeing the most in my opening hand from each of my decks
>>96285787>the commanderOh boy do i have news for you
>>96285802>order foil by accidentI hate their low quality foil cards
>'sorry, we don't have this card, was mistakenly set it for sale even though we don't have it in foil, we've sent you the non-foil version of the same card and granted you a full refund"Pretty cool for me
>>96285054as many as I can make asymmetrical so depends on the deck
Thoughts on this lil fella
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>the control player when I pay 2 and swing 8 commander at him after he countered my mana dork
>Me (the control player) after I cast Magmaquake for 8 to kill everyone else's commander for the 3rd time this game
There should be a single pool of commander damage. If one person hits for for 14, another for 6, and the last 1 you should just be dead
>>96286102>There should be more gay politics in the format already being ruined by bad players wasting time trying to play gay politics
>>96286102Any damage by a commander should be commander damage, not just combat damage
>>96285691I believe there are two kinds of people in EDH, people who try to win games and people who need to be taught a lesson. Farewell is a perfect card for turning the latter into the former.
If I hit you (and me, and the two other guys in the pod) with a symmetrical boardwide exile at sorcery speed this is the finding out step after 'fucking around'. If I had to tutor it you have even less excuse.
I'm sorry, if you're going to tap out and go hellbent and you pass turn to me, you're getting called a slur and getting the entire table sent to gay baby jail.
>b-b-but you can break symmetry and win the game on itSo we gonna shuffle up and go again or is there mandatory cry time?
>sol ring good because it makes more mana than it costs
>UMMM ACTUALLY SOL RING ISNT THAT GOOD BECAUSE YOU DONT GET AS MUCH VALUE FROM IT LATEGAME AND ITS BETTER TO PUT A MORE VERSATILE COMBO PIECE INSTEAD, ME PERSONALLY I STOPPED RUNNING SOL RING IN ALL OF MY DECKS BECAUSE ITS KIND OF BORING ACTUALLY. I THINK ITS BORING. I'M NOT COPING OR TRYING TO LOOK SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE ACTUALLY. I DON'T USE SOL RING. ANYONE WANT TO GIVE ME SOME MORE ATTENTION FOR NOT USING SOL RING? NOT EVERY DECK NEEDS IT YOU KNOW
>sol ring good because it makes more mana than it costs
>>96286135the tough guy act about playing a boardwipe is so fucking funny because boardwiping is the ultimate timmy move like 2 hours into the game
>>96286094>control>wasting removal on commandersYou are a bad control player
>>96286135By nature of you being able to go down the list to select what is exiled, it's not a symmetrical board wipe. This is a symmetrical board wipe
>>96286135>*untap upkeep draw*>*cracks knuckles*>*starts giggling to self*>Hee hee hee.... this is going to be fun....>*raises eyebrow*>*wipes sweat from brow*>*adjusts newsie cap*>*checks insulin reading*>*tightens fingerless gloves*>Looks like you need to be taught a lesson kitten.... I play farewell... exiling all creatures, artifacts, enchantments, and graveyards. You fucked around... Now you're finding out. Hee hee hee......
I don't give a fuck about farewell, its a 6 mana sorcery. Its not fire covenant, its not toxic deluge. Hour of Revelation costs WWW and cleans the board. Graveyard hate should be far more common, the only thing that's powerful is the modality
>make mecha/robot tribal>heck yeah, time to play some saturday commander>'how fast are we going? turn 4 - turn 10?' >settle on a solid 3 and 8 turns>guy instantly wins with malcom/glint horn>k, his one early win con>next game, instantly wins on turn 5 and uses 2 free counter spells>oh oops, I have 4 or 5 2-card infinites with my commander>play a bit stronger deck>other guy drops kenan and goes full cedh except no mox diamond or lions eye, but he will drop grim monolith and every other mox with consecrated sphinx and free counter everything relevantWhy are people such fucking CUNTS, jfc.
>>96286206>exiles most everything>game reset>adds 30minutes to an hour because it's never done to wingee, I wonder why people hate it. farewell is awesome if actually used as a modal, such as exiling graveyards and artifacts, or creatures and enchantment. The issue isn't it's utility, it's the slog of a blank slate
>>96286169>>96286204So there is mandatory cry time.
>>96286193That's Modal. Symmetrical means it applies to everyone's targets.
>>96286206this. people who hate it because they get to play longer (more) now actually just hate magic
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>>96286135When people use a casual format to work out their mental illnesses this is what it looks like.
Bro's casting a boardwipe and pretending anyone gives a shit beyond the minor annoyance of having the game extended another hour.
It's freakish and quite pathetic little power fantasy where you convince yourself you have any power over people's emotional state and are able to "teach them lessons" by playing a fucking card game.
YWNBW. Kill yourself.
>Stay with a 3 land hand with a draw engine in it
>don't draw any lands
>Play engine
>It get removed
>Keep not drawing lands
>Person play a land destruction spell, and instead of targeting the leaders ancient tomb or literally anything else, destroys one of your only 3 lands, which are all basics.
How do you not flip the table
>>96286323He did the right call
No reason to try and piss in a forest fire
>>96286269>So there is mandatory cry time.no you are just a huge faggot acting like a tough guy for playing a boardwipe. "need to be taught a lesson" get the fuck over yourself you massive loser
>>96286323Just politely scoop.
My brother used to do shit like this to me all the time.
It almost always ended up with him losing the game 2 turns later.
Eventually he started hated getting pubstomped by the people he ignored more than he enjoyed using all his resources to annoy me.
>>96286301If the game runs another hour after a boardwipe, it's because I'm not at the table. I don't slow play, I don't durdle, I take my turn and if I haven't lethal, I LOSE.
Crybully Timmies that won't even try to close out a game are exactly what wipes exist to solve. If we're on turn 10 and you don't have it, I'm fucking taking it from you.
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I've never played a game that went 10 turns before because I actually know how to win games fast, sorry that happened to you.
>>96286355>pubstompeddoes this just mean "beaten" now?
genuinely no bullshit what the fuck were they thinking when they chose THIS as the first crossover?
>>96286269You don't seem to get what I mean. Because it's Modal it's not a symmetrical board wipe because you can always tweak it to have it effect you with far less worries. Maybe you're equipment and artifact heavy so you keep them around. Maybe you're creature heavy and there's just some pesky enchantments that are stopping you from swinging. Maybe you hate graveyard play. The options on it are pretty crazy compared to, again, an actual symmetrical card and I'd almost be willing to argue it's the one of the best Modal cards ever printed
>>96286391This is the 4chan equivalent of karma farming
>lets have this original and super interesting discussion for 54 millionth time should be fun amirite gaiz???
>>96286339I too enjoy just playing spells to cast them with progressing myself towards a win.
>>96286391they were and probably still are just out of touch with whats popular even 5 years ago everyone had already long fallen off the walking dead hype train or whatever
>>96286391Humans and Zombies go hand in hand i guess
>>96286391It was popular at the time, hasbro probably twisted their arm
>>96286402I'll give you that; on some boards it is effectively asymmetrical, but it's entirely matchup dependent.
I will point out that decks that benefit the most from that function are decks that also are deeply centralized into a card type. Voltron will skip Artifacts or Enchantments or both (if they can recast their commander effectively). Graveyard will obviously not garbage their tools. Beyond that though wide decks are vulnerable to wipes in general and tokens are gone forever no matter how you trash them. The more balanced your typing and gameplan is, the more self-harm a player gets out of Farewelling unless they explicitly are cheating it, which basically comes down to bouncing or phasing, which is exactly the same kind of limp play that let me Farewell everything to begin with. You're looking at an 8 mana play to tap out and pass.
I feel the point is that the decks and players that are most irritated by farewell are exactly the kind of decks Farewell needs to be played for. If your deck literally only has one line with no counters and no backups you might as well fuck off to a non-singleton format.
>>96285642Exiling as removal was a major game design mistake. We had plenty of other ways to get around indestructible.
>>96283494Yes, you have to unsleeve them every time. Same with pathyways.
What's some good ragebait
Some if you guys have never been on the receiving end of a particularly brutal Balance or Cataclysm and it shows.
I know its banned, if the only format you've ever played is EDH then you are the problem
>>96286431I mean, all of these deals are supposed to have been started years in advance before they hit print, right? Odds are they made the deal back when the series was in it's prime and by the time the cards came out it had long passed. If they really want to strike while the iron is hot they need to plan these years in advance with coming new releases and take the chance on what will be a hit or not. Otherwise the safe bet is going with things that are already hugely popular like with Final Fantasy or Spider-Man.
>>9628430198 ping lands and a worldfire.
Thank me later.
>>96286135consider suicide you might be able to have fun doing that
>>96286508Argue that combos aren't combos if they don't go infinite and you choose when to end it. Conversely, argue everything is a combo, like playing an anthem in your tribal deck.
Where did this gutless idea that one cannot play to win while having fun arise from?
there is not a single good argument proving that long games are bad
>>96286524ummm excuse me why isn't this an EOE spaceship in magicspace
>>96283334His channel also died and the larger black guy stopped talking to him, so lmao on him
>>96286240can't remember the last time i chose all modes on a farewell
>>96285102It legit got really shit after they did that. I had no problems for years. Now I won't even use the site anymore.
>>96285256I am assuming it is 3/3 elk posting this because he admitted to coming here and also does a podcast with this dude. So he probably has a grudge and just vents here.
>>96285642My playground doesn't mind it. It's a game with the lads.
>>96285661Necrons and Imperium are pretty fun having upgraded both, Tyranids have a lot of good stuff but the face commander is bizarre and doesn't really want to do anything you'd want him to do besides be big
>>96286411So is
>OMG ARAGORN BLACK
>>96286725nice virtue signaling
>>96286731Yes, that's what I was saying that was.
>>96286431People keep saying that but doesn't it have multiple shows going and just did a crossover with a major multiplayer game?
>>96285827They need a pseudo indestructible keyword then, like how ward is pseudo hexproof.
The current direction is just a never ending arms race.
>>96286391https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique
>>96286391That popular IPs are good.
>>96286783That's a shield counter.
>>96286783>>96285804>>96285827Keyword - Hearthbound
Hearhbound is a static ability.
Hearthbound on a permanent means this permanent can’t be exiled by spells or abilities.
>>96286905"hearth" is kinda tied to homeward path style effects already, isn't it? maybe "tethered"
>>96286905Honestly it's too niche, so they won't print it. Same reason "can't be sacrificed" never took off except as cheeky counterplay to help you in a "giving your opponent some dogshit permanent" gameplan.
>>96286725aragorn isn't black
>>96286905No, that just furthers the arms race. They need to actually address the issue of why they feel like we need a new exile based board wipe every set.
>>96286968He also didn't have facial hair
>>96286905honestly not bad. could put this on creatures with strong ETBs to prevent ephemerate effects
>>96286905The stupid thing is they already had an answer. Returning to hand. Just do that instead of all the exile shit.
>30 lands
>still flooding
I hate this game
>>96287047put more card selection in the deck
how many times can I copy this trigger before it becomes MLD
>>96287104same but meteor golem in a blink deck
>>96287104>>96287107It isn't mass land destruction, its a series of unrelated incidents.
>>96287107>nonlandspine of ish sha then
I got out a bunch of stuff as upgrades for Tidus, not sure what to cut or use.
Not pictured: Simic Ascendancy and Green Ozolith
>>96287113Bro? Your intent?
>>96287113it's just a freak accident of 15 unrelated muggings bro
>order card over a month ago
>never arrives
I HECKIN LOVE TCGPLAYER
>>96287160>that pile>richThere's like one expensive card in that pile
>Still no news about my Sonic SLD shipping
Bros this is a birthday gift for my foundational black american friend, wotc is basically committing a hate crime
>>96287198Vorniclex and henge alone is 100
>>96287207They aren't sending them until like mid month and you probably won't get them until maybe end of month. I actually ordered some of the singles off tcgplayer and it cost less and got here in a few days.
Also you don't have a black friend.
>>96287208Henge price dropped after becoming a GC
>>96287216Bruh I just fucking checked it on TCG player. Shut the fuck up. They are 64 dollars at the cheapest. Vorniclex is over 30. 100 is more than some anons decks.
yeah I give up on trying to make hand size matters, the payoffs are garbage
>>96287246your hand size or others hand size? i'm guessing yours.
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>>96287246Winning the game is a garbage pay off?
>>96287286dont reply to me with meme cards
>>96287246the payoff of handsize matters is having a huge fuckoff hand. if you can't leverage the card advantage into a win you should get to the doctors and get your disability diagnosed and rated. there is some bux to be had
>fucking simic players
>>96287132How is anyone going to "help" if you dont post a list, retard?
Is this pretty much the best 3 mana "ramp" creature besides Wood Elves and Farhaven Elf? I was using Courser of Kruphix and it was just too often a dead card that didn't do anything. Same with Auger of Autumn. Faeburrow does have to wait a turn, but it will reliably give me 2 or 3 mana, and I love creatures that have vigilance and a tap ability.
>>96287312>forgot pic, of course
>>96287214I absolutely do, though he is not a foundational black afaik
>>96285256I think that video will go down as one of the all time greats of retarded e-celeb takes
>>96287372go away 3/3 elk
>>96287376Where? Pin him down, I'm gonna breed his ass.
>>96287160Thanks? Lol
I also forgot that I own a Bristly Bill, but I don't know if he's worth it in a non-landfall deck
>>96287306Okay okay sorry. I'm at my old man's, so here's the deck laid out fresh
>>96287384We already know he comes here AND he does a podcast with this fag.
>>96287220Imagine paying more than $3 for any single card. What the fuck are people doing?
>>96287394And I know I'm gonna make him boipreggers
>>96286605Lel, I thought of that, but I didn't want everyone to hate me.
>>96287286>wow this would go great in my simic counters matter deck with simic ascendancy!
>>96287429It would.
What is the point you are trying to make with your green text,
>>96287297>building a meme deck>that wincon that fits perfectly, that's too meme. I'm just going to keep making bird lands
>>96287246The blackpill is realizing it's not your hand size that matters, it's everyone elses.
there are a lot of "plat league traps" in this game (if you've played any online competitive game you know what i'm talking about, but if not it's basically the iq curve meme, it's when you reach a point where your knowledge about the game greatly outpaces your skill), but the biggest one i think is mass land destruction. i think a lot of people defend MLD because they think it makes them look like a better or more hardcore player, especially because it's not allowed in lower brackets. this conveniently leaves out the fact that in actual bracket 5 CEDH games, they don't even bother running MLD. it's basically something that only exists at lower powered tables, tables that already lack the resources to recover or to counter that kind of play. it's a good thing that MLD is not printed anymore, and it's a good thing that it's soft-banned
>>96287460the jews at WOTC specifically added green to this card so it couldn't go in my nekusar deck. i know it.
>>96287473It's green because its a delirium card
>>96287451>What is the point you are trying to make with your green textYou're BORING, so fucking BORING, across the table from you I'd be BORED, go ahead and shuffle 20 more lands onto the field this turn simic, resolve 20 more hardened scales triggers while I play on my phone because you're BORING.
>>96287487>no, a wincon based around the decks theme is bad and boring!Cope.
Seethe.
Dilate.
>>96287487>waaaahhhh when I'm not winning I'm BORED!!!Play a different game? You might like Call of Duty
>>96287494>>96287495That's it, I'm making a MLD deck specifically for when someone is playing a simic lead.
>>96287498UHHHHH JUDGE?! THIS IS BRACKET 2!
Why does jund have so much group hug/slug anyways
Is 9 counter spells enough in a control deck?
>>96287390>Sin, Unending Cataclysm Unironically terrible card. No haste, only rewards you on death while ruining all of your other creatures. Removing counters from other players is stupid and pointless.
>Fight RiggingHideaway is bad. 1 counter per turn is bad.
>>96285642White is always the worst color to you faggots until is does white things then it's IM CALLING WOTC IM CALLING THE POLICE IM CALLING THE PRESIDENT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT
>>96287312>>96287318It's playable in cEDH so yes.
>>96287196Just bitch and they'll refund or send you a new one and then like a week later you'll get the first order for free
>>96287529An Offer you cant refuse is fucking terrible as an only counterspell too
>>96287487Only women think boring is an insult anon
>>96287561Not him but I run offer and negate as my only counters in my sultai pile. They're only used defensively when I'm going to the win, not offensively.
>>96287578The king of durdling
>low IQ: counterspell
>high IQ: ramp
I play mishra's bauble and counter it and play my commander
>Final Fantasy had hero cards
>So Spiderman can't have hero synergy, everything is based on spider type instead
Why not have both sets have synergy with eachother? This is just like how manifest dread and cloak were two separate mechanics for no reason.
>>96287600>>96287603Classic turn 1 Emry.
>>96287614something something there'll be more heroes and hero synergy later they don't want to support it too heavily this early
also they need to stop making new creature types
>>96287614WOTC does this stupid thing were they just remake a mechanic from scratch so that each set is 'unique'.
>>96287710I got into an argument with grognards about this over Edge of Eternities. It's all so fucking tiresome, I don't even think these people are capable of critical thought on why they defend the things they do.
As it turns out, I actually liked Warp a lot as a mechanic, but it was still a worthwhile jumping off point to talk about how WotC just keeps shitting out new mechanics that are not likely to ever be revisited.
Like when are we next going to see Rooms? How about Start Your Engines, or Omens? Not for years, possibly never. The last mechanic I can think of actually being revisited fairly soon after was Adventures.
I was saying I'd much rather see existing keywords get new support than just see a tiny variation on an existing keyword which doesn't synergize with similar keywords and just adds to confusion with microscopic differences in rules interactions. Like did we really need:
>morph>megamorph>manifest>cloak>manifest dreadAnd the first fucking response I got was
>WTF SO YOU JUST WANT EVERY KEYWORD TO BE EVERGREEN????
>>96287805The most egregious one IMO is battles. Imagine adding a brand new permanent type, just to use it for a single set and never again.
>>96287805Plot and spree were fantastic mechanics that unironically should be evergreen, but we'll never see them again because everyone hated thunder junction
>>96287842They literally said that was the plan
>>96287846Plot no, spree yes. Spree should be how every modal spell should be to the point they should retcon farewell to be a spree
>>96287873If this were yugioh, they'd just errata the text and then print it correctly a bunch of times for people to get new copies. But no, this is Magic, where even when they DO change the literal fucking text of a card they may never fucking reprint it again.
>>96287854Plans can be retarded.
>>96287877Ban farewell, reprint correct farewell, repeat with every card. Simple.
>>96287854Does that make it okay?
If I loudly announce I'm about to shit my pants, are you no longer allowed to complain when it stinks?
>>96287854Why though, there's a conflict in every set that could be in one or two battle cads.
Its literally perfect for a evergreen type.
>>96287906I personally fucking hate battles and don't think it deserved a new type of permanent. They could just as easily have been a type of enchantment like rooms and backgrounds and fucking sagas. In fact why aren't they sagas?
But anyway, as much as I don't think they should exist I will agree that now that they do exist, only having them for 1 set is stupid.
I think most enchantments shouldn't be enchantments
>>96287926Its worth noting we've only seen 1 type of battle so far, siege. I could see an inverse type where it gives you some sort of benefit but other players need to try and kill it. Now that every planeswalker has a passive though maybe thats not needed, but the point is they can do more with them.
>>96287987I still don't even know how 'enchantment creatures' work lore wise. Like if its a god or something I get it, but just random dudes being enchantments really makes no sense.
It would take zero design effort to create battles that you defend against your enemies, and battles you race against your enemies to kill.
>>96287846>spree were fantastic mechanicsspree is just kicker
>>96288030you're right, spree sucks.
>>96288018Battle that both players could attack and defend would be interesting. With whoever deals the most damage getting the backside.
>>96288010>>96288018>>96288052battle - siege: protected by someone else
battle - hold: protected by you
battle - contest: contested cliffs/warzone
battle - strive: any player can attack, any other player can block, each player that deals damage to it puts counters on it, first to X does the thing
any other gamemodes? contest but first to king-of-the-hill for X turns flips it?
>>96288070King of the hill that jumps between players like the monarch yeah
>>96288104I said that as contest already, the king of the hill one I mean slightly differently. hold and actually defend rather than just 'as long as you have it'
Bring back fortification.
MAKE A NEW THREAD RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW
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