Thread 96289870

Just here to bash criminals Edition

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>>96285990

>Thread Question:
What was the first army you collected?

too early

Are accessories like pic related worth acquiring to make 40k easier? And do they genuinely make 40k easier?
>pic related are wound counter holders with little arrows to denote what they represent and how many wounds

Anybody here use accessories for 40k games, and how was your experience with said accessories and what were they?

The AL scheme looks surprisingly good on them.

>>96289870 (OP)
>TQ
It was Dark Eldar. My brother got the marine half.

>>96289870 (OP)
>TQ
Also Dark Eldar, but I started in 5th edition with the newer (current) range

>>96289917
Depends on your army and you as a person.
If you have tons of multi wound models like a knight player might be, I would absolutely say they might be something worthwhile.

I myself have thought about having some sort of holder for VP and Cp to separate them from the rest of the dice pool.
I can't express how often someone grabbed a fatesdice by mistake back when they were a thing.

Would you play Diceless Warhammer?
>All attacks produce average results, rounding up
>Automatically get one Crit effect for every six attacks, rounding up

>>96289786
i always forget that's a visor and not their little sambo mouths

>>96289870 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>What was the first army you collected?
Bartonian's from the starter box in the 1996´s

>>96289870 (OP)
>What was the first army you collected?
2nd ed orks

>TQ
Ultramarines from Battle for Macragge. I collected around 1750~ points and then started Tyranids after.

Redpill me on Imperial Knights.

>>96290048
>redpill
Both these pills are a false choice. The blue pill keeps you enslaved to The System. The red pill condemns you to a life of suffering where your good deeds are tracked and your extinction is inevitable. Worst yet, it is revealed that the red pills are all part of a system run by the machines necessary for blue pill survival. None are truth or freedom from the system. You either willingly accept the system or falsely believe you're rebelling against the system, unaware you're merely playing a different role and shockingly vital role in the same system. In other words, both choices are lie-filled shit choices and red pills are merely another form of blue pill. Whichever you chose, The Matrix has you.

What the Wachowskis are trying to tell us, at times begging us to understand, is that our options are never limited to the choices laid in front of us. We are free to find our own path. The true pill is no pill.

>>96290048
Threatstack army. You opponent brings enough antitank - you lose. He doesn't - you win.

>>96290048
If Jedi are monks and samurai, the Imperial Knights are praetorian guard. Their duty is to serve and protect the emperor but not blindly serve. They're firmly anti-dark side to the point that their official duties include monitoring their emperor for dark side corruption. If their emperor is corrupted then their duties are to redeem him or failing that, remove him from power, up to and including killing him if no other choice.

Kroot Dragons.

>>96290072
>tranny directors
>binary choice
What did they mean by this?

Emperor being an actual good guy who was trying to save humanity and wasn't a tyrant, is better and makes 40k feel more grimdark. Since if a man of his calibre failed and couldn't fix the galaxy, then nobody truly can.
There is no hope, only war and inevitable extinction.

>>96290072
>>96290084
I just wanted to know how they play in 10th.

>>96290123
I can't wait for them to write about the Dark Age of Technology where everything was shit, everyone was a monster, technology was crude, etc. It's the only story GW knows how to write. Like how Star Wars' Old Republic was originally much different and was squeezed through the Flanderization machine to make it the same as all the other Star Wars. There's a brand image and you're not allowed to diverge from it.

>>96289870 (OP)
>TQ
My father gifted me his old high elf army.
40 spears, 40 bows, 20 swords, a chariot, a repeater bolt-thrower, a mage on a unicorn, and a commander on a dragon.
I played it a little but never got into it.
I ended up gifting it back to him along with a glass cabinet to display it in, alongside some of my mum's teapot collection.

First army I collected personally was the old metal Sisters of Battle.
Two squads of 10 bbs, 5 dominions, 10 seraphim, 10 repentia, 2 rhinos, an immolator, 2 exorcists, 2 canonesses, one I gave a jump pack, & celestine.

Played them for a few years, took a decade long break and came back when Sisters finally got plastic and now have substantially more.

I don't really like 10th and I enjoy it even less each time. I don't know what will happen if 11th doubles down. Again.

>>96290157
What could they even still trim? It's already super simplified. If anything they probably need to expand back out again now.

>>96290157
10th is nearing it's end my friend, so not too much longer.

Which parts grinded you the wrong way though?

>>96290143
They're currently the army with the second-highest winrate after Death Guard. It's still just as dull to play as or against them as Knights have always been, however.

>>96290174
Look at AoS and KT. They still can go even lower.
>>96290175
Mostly points/listbuilding, how gamey the leader buffs are compared to older 40k or 30k and the change of statlines to work like AoS. I fucking hate those statlines.

It's FINALLY done!

Fridgefren!, I bring you an offering if you are here!

Also post some models gents.

Too many fucking gems.

>>96290143
It's... banal. Mechanically, it's boring as hell. You either stomp or get stomped.

The enjoyment of playing Knights comes from admitting to yourself you don't respect your opponent and you hold nothing but contempt for the game.

Personally, they're a blast to play.

>>96290204
I'm trying to get these finished today or tomorrow. The plan was to finish the whole 1k points a month ago but painting with this heat has been unbearable.

post models

>>96290253
Weird, I have seen this pic a dozen times but nothing shows up on the archive.

>>96289870 (OP)
>TQ
I started with WHFB lizardmen. My first 40k army was blood angels. Feels good to give the army another go all these years later.

>>96289870 (OP)
got a box of necron warriors back in 4th (with the green translucent rods) and a penitent engine because I didn't understand the game.
I also didn't know about plastic glue or pinning. that metal penitent engine was an absolute bitch to build

>>96289917
in KT, I always end up putting wound counters on the ready/activated tokens, so I imagine these would be useful. especially ones that can hold an MTG spindown die

>>96290048
If you feel like you fucked up in collecting knights just remember, the chaos guys get allies that are great, and you get allies too. Just not as many options.
>imperial agents
can still stick a cheap unit on home base and the like

>>96290253
Does anyone else start painting an infantry squad to your highest standards then gradually start rushing through as you get sick of painting the same things 10 or 20 times?

>>96290309
this is why you start with the squad leader and remember your steps, and just complete 75% of the steps on the other dudes so you can come back later to finish

>>96290072
So you're saying there's a third position? Its Warhammer. Warhammer is the 3rd position.

>>96290309
Yeah. I didnt realise how long it would take and I want to play narrative games.

>>96290317
3rd edition is the best, as prophesized.

here's one of my LGS' 40k boards

>>96290334
Could be worse

>>96290340
I dont think you can get worse than that

>>96289870 (OP)
>TQ

Started with orks in 2002, and then moved onto every xenos faction at the time. As I kid I couldn't decide what I wanted to play, then eventually gave up as my friends stopped playing. I've still got all of my old shit somewhere, not many orks though. Started again last year sometime

>>96290334
Actually painting the terrain and using a mat that matches the theme would go a long way.
>>96290342
Oh you can. Those buildings could be flat, featureless Ls.

>>96290334
The ones I play on are far more soulless than that, the usual unpainted MTC terrain or whatever it's called. One of the regulars got sick of seeing it so he's been slowly painting it

>>96290342
This is what my LGS plays 40k on.

>>96290363
>parking lot greytide
how horrifying

>>96290363
And another

>>96290123
nah that sucks actually

>>96290204
Just finished up this Fuegan. The whole project was a bit of a mess, but I think he's okay at the end of it.

What happened to kikes and gypsies in the 40k universe?

There’s so few kikes in this hobby and in the rare instances I encountered one they were cheating.

>>96290309
youre batching wrong

>>96290174
10th's biggest failing is it didn't actually make the game simple and quick. it's too married to garbage systems that waste players' time, and a scale that is impossible to make work for a mass battle game

they need to burn it all down and start again with something actually straightforward, and later add complexity from sturdy foundations

>>96290363
>>96290370
I hope these are intro games, my lord the greytide is painful to see

>>96290205
>implying there can be too many dead elves

>>96289870 (OP)
why is there suddenly a faggot obsessed with making arbiters OPs? this is like the 4th in a row

>>96290388
I'm surprised there's no text box in a codex that makes a joke about a mysterious force called the 'grey tide' and how everyone in the galaxy fucking hates and kills on sight

>>96290361
i've offered to paint the terrain 3 seperate times on one condition: i'm not doing it all by myself

the terrain, as you can see, is still unpainted because nobody else wants to help
the players can barely put in effort to paint their own armies to begin with, theres no way in hell they'd paint terrain

Hard to get a good still image of the guy but here's the first character in my Red Corsair warband. Turns out the gritty texture wasn't so bad to deal with

Damn, it's pretty rare for regular kits to sell out in preorders. People are excited about dwarfs!

>>96290440
>totally not because the units are broken or anything

dead thread

>>96290363
I've only painted terminators and the occasional skittle but wouldn't tanks be 100 times easier and faster to paint?

>>96290476
I'm working on some AoS guys now but next week I'll paint some more space guys

Lost a 1k game as eldar into EC, 76-68.
Fucked up my deployment and got some infiltraiting striking scorpions charged turn 1. Actually stayed ahead but was tabled on turn 5 and my opponent scored like 25 points that turn to win

>>96290440
>>96290455
Now that its sold out, we all know what happens next

>>96290455
earthshakers are mid but buri is pretty nice

>>96290485
Sounds good

>>96290508
They get nerfed

>>96290253
Retro stuff looks cool.

Anybody else get super drained while painting? I love having models painted by me but I hate actually painting them. It sucks.

>Carcosa orbits two black stars
>Commorragh has two captive black suns
>Carcosa is a city with towers that rise BEHIND the moon
>Commorragh also has mind bending monoliths and towers that do not behave as normal euclidean or non-euclidean structures
>Carcosa (in Pathfinder) is constantly expanding and consuming other realms and adding to itself
>Commorragh also expands and takes over other dimensional realms
>Carcosa is a giant city
>Commorragh is a giant city
>The ruler of Carcosa is a the King in Yellow, a being no normal person can withstand seeing
>The ruler of Commorragh is Asdrubael Vect, a being we normal beings and fans of 40k have not seen any art for but the one picture from before their total faction redesign

Surely this was a conscious decision by someone at GW and not all concidences

>>96290543
how fucking new are you the you do not realize 40k is just dune with a bunch of pop sci fi thrown in

Post your newest conversions

>>96290548
I never made the connection of Commorragh being inspied by Carcosa before fuck off. It's a more sublte reference than the direct theft of Dune and Morcock ideas.
I can also add the moon beasts trading their rubies for humans slaves being something like the deldar slave raids, and having black ships that sail through space. And the moon beasts have a connection to the High Priest Not to Be Described, who is wearing a yell8rpow cloak and veil

>>96290504
typical eldar

>>96290538
Yup. Painting 8 minis right now and I want ti kms.
But the next morning looking at them feels good.

>>96289917
I count up for this reason. I do need some battle shock tokens though, remembering that can kinda suck

>>96290543
wait til you read Shadow of the Torturer

>>96290019
No, I'd become too effective :^)

>>96290543
nothing in 40k is original other than the fact its a giant soup of everything else

>>96290591
Eldar and dark eldar aesthetic designs are unique I'd say, even if their name and being elves in space isn't. Theres nothing else that looks like craftworld eldar

I like them.

>>96290578
Those boltrifles look good anon. Nice job

>>96290616
Admech players seething right now

>>96290570
Fuck off spamming this shit

>>96290625
Rock and stone!

>>96290601
>I'd say, even if their name and being elves in space isn't.
If they weren't elves in space they would've been generic alien waifu: the faction.

>>96290309
I paint every single mini to the best of my ability because I feel like it would be a waste to miss an opportunity to improve. Then again I'm a nogames, I'd probably have a different mindset if I was painting to play.

>>96290616
Do Space Dwarfs copulate with Ironkin?

>>96290769
I already made my horny-post in the thread that got pruned, but yes. Long and frequent sessions.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96290625
This is mostly fine but the guns are dumb as fuck.

>>96290601
>Eldar and dark eldar aesthetic designs are unique
CWE are just power rangers while Dark Eldar are just cenobites from Hellraiser.

>>96290769
Presumably they would have purpose-built Ironkin designed from the ground up to provide sexual relief.

>>96290616
I think they look good as well, but I don't think that the white and turqoise colorscheme does them any favors.
Also I like that one on the right, the head looks kind of like a Kastellan robot head. A nice connection to show that both Admech and Votann derive their stuff from the DAoT.

>>96290813
What do you think Steeljacks are, anon?

>>96290440
Maybe but also maybe they have little stock. My official Warhamer Store managed to secure only 5 of the crazy dwarf character while they can usually secure up to 50 depending on interest. 5 to 50 is crazy. Seems like GW had no confidence in Votann.

>>96290806
Power rangers inspied the central colour scheme sure, but these all look radically different to any power ranger lineup

>>96290806
Power rangers look nothing like craftworlders retard

Am I missing the point of the Siege of Vraks by trying to come up with better alternatives to how the siege went?

In the grimdark future, are Chaos Space Marines allowed to have friends? Not even considering non-marine friendships, are they capable of befriending fellow CSM in a meaningful sense?

>>96290892
It takes a lot of suspension of disbeleif that the imperials couldn't use some warships to fire some beams from space to destory enemy defences, or the imperials controlling the rest of the planet to just fire ICBM at them all day and night. And then the problem that it killed less people than WW1 did. Still its kino despite the silliness of it, if you enjoy it and realised how fucked trench attrition warfare is you havent missed the point

>>96290915
Sure, why not.

>all these Abominable Intelligence worshiping manlets running around
I'm sorry, squatbros, but the punishment is death. Hope you like it as much as we do.

>>96290999
Sorry reverse Satan, but let's not pretend that you wouldn't be balls deep in some cyberwaifu tonight if they were cheap and easy (like your'e mom lmao)

>>96290915
The Alpha Legion warband in Harrowmaster has a psyker who's more or less best friends with the dude in charge.

Also, if it wasn't obvious, there is a minimum height requirement for (you)s.
Get fucked, you filthy xenos.

40k art needs more peoples looking at beaitful and scary things in a night sky

>>96291011
>Your Mom Jokes in M42
You're so outdated your humor hasn't evolved for 40k years.

>>96291048
Can't beat the classics like your'e dad beet your'e mom lmao

>>96291047
They need art of dead Marines being shoved a blood thirsters blazing asshole

>>96289870 (OP)
>>Pre 10th Torrent:
>Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5
is this a torrent breh's?!?!?
how does a nigga use it?

>>96291061
Everything you said was so retarded I almost spit my recaff from your sheer incompetence. ESL is too soft of a term to describe your incapability to write and read

>>96290616
I choose to believe they all sound like Mr Gutsy from Fallout

>>96291088
I mean, I'm just messing with you baby boy. Calm down, are you autistic?

>>96291071
You could probably get an AI to make something like that if you really want to... fill... that niche.

>>96291080
you copy it as a link into your client nigga

what are the current standings in WTC?

>literal degenerated subhumans
We'll be putting you squatbros out of your own misery. Consider it a kindness.

>>96291105
I like robot sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BIlrGnAz5Y

>>96291140
Suboptimal choice of enemy, considering they're genetically modified and there's not much skin to remove, plus many of them are Ironkin so they can't experience fear whatsoever and there's no skin to remove.
Then again edgelord cuckboys who tongue-punch ABD's shit-encrusted asshole every night wouldn't know anything about quality anyway, so...

>>96291173
>>96291140
you're going on the list

>trying to make excuses on why you don't think you should die
You are only encouraging your future purging, you fucking drunk little goblin abominations.

>Scrap Demon
I see what you did here GW.

Welp.

I just found out my Titan is too big for my transport box.

Fuck me.

>>96291235
Are they related?

>>96291241
saw + magnets, you got this anon

>>96291250
His already magnetized sadly. The problem was the arms were so long and heavy they would sack when hanging by the magnets so I ended up gluing them.

I had measured it to fit, but in my retardedness I forgot to take the 3-dimentionality (is that a word?) of the back fin into account, so it does not fit while the leg parts are also in.

I don't know if it comes across in the pictures how fucking huge the guy is, but his a real big boy when you count the fin.

>>96291133
France won again

>>96291271
>phantom titan at 2100pts\
holy fuck its HUEG

I hope you got some hobby-work done this Sunday anons:

Grey Pile, my plastic Everest,
unprimed, unloved, unpressed,
I swear each night you grow a crest:
three Knights, two Dreads, just one more detachment… bless.

Sprues hiss, “Remember us?”
I answer, “Soon, I swear!”
They laugh like dry, sarcastic dust:
“Your ‘soon’ has split ends and despair.”

O pot of Abaddon Black,
still sealed like gossip’s lips,
you judge me from your cardboard rack,
“Shake me, coward; dip your nibs!”

The Codex says, “Paint to play.”
I nod, then buy, not paint,
a fiscal prayer to keep at bay
the guilt of plastic sain’t.

Grey Pile, you smug, unpainted host,
you mock my every scheme;
yet still I stack you, coast to coast,
a hobby in extreme.

>>96291116
nigga here
in my bittorrent client?

>>96291271
you misunderstand. do it like a magician.

>>96291241
Big motherfucker skipped leg day lol, state of those spindly thighs. You would find such structural laxity on an Imperial Titan, no sir.

>>96291302
I did. I finished painting a dude's legs, torso, and backpack. Now I have to paint the arms, gun, head, and base.

>>96291241
That's a lovely Wraithseer.

>>96291314
Imperial titans succ tho. Can't even do a spinning roundhouse kick

>>96291291
Sadly mine is the "little" titan, the Revenant titan at 1100 points, so you CAN play with it.

The plan was to take it and a small fluffy list to local tournies to meet new players. I realize I won't win anything but hopefully my list will be Memorable and fun. Also I like short games because three games of local warhammer in a day is taxing as all hell imho. Better make it fun.

>>96291302
>“Shake me, coward; dip your nibs!”
Oh ffs, that should have read "tips" not nibs. : ( Wrong version.

>>96291308
yeah, click on add torrent link or something in on the top left of your torrent client then paste the hash id.

>>96291333
thanks breh
you're the MVP

>>96291311
flip the bottom, slide it to the back, put the torso on a little pedestal and slide the fin between the legs

>>96291302
Bravo anon!

However i shall forever picture a deviant player out there that can't get off without dipping his nipples in citadel paint.

>>96291107
>Act retarded
>"I was merely pretending to be retarded!"

>>96290919
The books explicitly state that the Citadel of Vraks was protected by a massive void shield array to protect from orbital bombardment. Plus they wanted to retake the planet's store of weapons, not destroy them. In the end they ultimately failed by letting the conflict spiral out of control.

Could someone please help me understand how to prime small bits? Im doing subassemblies and priming the legs/torso on a base is easy but the smaller bits fly around the priming box when I spray them and it causes a huge mess.

>>96291241
This is exactly why I think elves don't belong in 40k.
They stand out like sore thumbs.
This anon did an outstanding job but it's still not fitting into this universe.

>>96291360
Lmao where is this from?

>>96291379
I attach individual pieces on the bottom via poster tack, then spray them. If you have a small hand drill, try to pin them which is especially good if you're doing heads.

>>96291379
I drill a small hole and superglue paperclips inside.
Optionaly I just use blue tac.

>>96291385
Just enjoy breaking their legs. Snap those twig appendages, and crack everyone one of those witch gems.
Your abhorrence to the alien is just proof they must die.

>>96291386
OG 1988 Adeptus Titanicus or Rogue Trader or something.

>>96290625
Have they been genestolen? Can votann be genestolen?

>Fucked up the primer job on my Lelith
>Model is so fucking fiddly and fragile it'll explode if I try to wipe it down and get the paint off of it
FUCK

>>96291472
Time and money: wasted

>>96291472
use an ultrasound cleaner and qtips

>>96291235
GW loves to hire trannies. It explains the severe drop in game design and sculpt quality.

>>96291379
I prime the sprue. I remove the mouldlines and nubs after, its fine if some parts of the mini is unprimed. Never had any issue with paints flaking off.

>too hot to paint
>so I'm building more models instead
>the backlog grows

>>96290072
But Neo, the protagonist, literally breaks the cycle by choosing choosing pussy over playing the machine's stupid game. So, no.

>>96291590
also, question for you guys.
>my GK purifiers all have psycannons
>should my regular strikes I'm building now have flamers or psilencers?

>>96291602
which ones look prettiest to you?

>>96291379
>Im doing subassemblies

Your problem.

>>96291602
It doesn't matter, you'll never be able to breach the Imperial Palace.

>>96291302
You could've started painting your pile pf shame instead of typing this

>>96291241
Post Khaine eldarbro

>>96291385
>They stand out like sore thumbs.

it's almost like they are ALIENS or something.

>>96291472
Superclean degreaser will eat the paint away in a way that will make it peel away like a booger and leave the plastic untouched

>>96291385
Anything that isn't buzz lightyear-looking ass primaris models is good for the setting.

>>96291634
I was keeping her for the college but fuck it. I am trying to get over the fact I'll have to break the titans arms off.

Here's my Wraith themed avatar.

>>96291636
Tyranids are aliens too and they fit perfectly, so do Orks and Tau.

>>96290915
you're allowed to have friends, but for various reasons it probably won't end well

>>96290123
>if a man of his calibre
Stupid cunt with no tact or basic humanity?

>>96290915
Talos of the Night Lords became the cool onii-san superfriend of his crew's cute navigator girl who pierced through his crusty exterior and reached his creamy center.

Imperial agents expansion is coming...
I can shill it...
>>96291385
It's almost like they're aliens with weird mystic technology meant to look eccentric and artistic anon...
The ones really sticking out are the Votann. Hell they straight up made the Tau's whole "we are reasonable and have actual normal sci fi technology" thing not that special anymore. Snubbed by fvvvvcking destiny fortress. I really hope the new codex makes them more grimdark and weird with their whole hyper capitalist efficiency gimmick
>>96291314
Titans get knocked down by hammerhead shots. Oops
>>96291302
Nice work anon, I would paint if I had the time
I should write a poem for a 40k waifu... I really wanna write a poem for a waifu but the only one in my mind is Aigis from playing P3P when I was a dweeb teen...
Poem for slaneesh with constant breaks between high and eloquent language to foul slurs and repeatedly screaming fuck and rape in the middle of the verse...

>>96290915
Yes, but it usually ends in betrayal.
In the CSM the only way to forge alliances is through domination.

Today, I hope everyone learned to hate xenos and their sympathizers just a little bit more than before.

>>96291696
>Yes, but it usually ends in betrayal.
Sounds more like frenemyship than friendship.

>>96289917
>Black&Decker laser level
Handheld, small, battery operated laser line. Can check line of sight very easily and can see if a base or model is visible around a corner and such things very easily.

>Leather stacking cup
A cup to rattle then pour your dice that actually muffles sound instead of making it louder. Makes it obvious to your opponent you're not doing any sleight of hand dice cheats.

>Architectural scale rulers
The triangle shape makes them easy to pick up since you always have something to hold on to, no more trying to get your finger underneath a flat plastic ruler that is laying on the table. Very convenient, and even come in other sizes than 12".

>Leather collapsible dice tray
Opens into a flat surface to slide into your backpack/army case, then clips together with magnets to form a tray. Muffles sound and eliminates dice flying off the table.

>Samsung Note 9
Great tablet, holds all your codex and rulebooks in digital format, has all your digital and app army lists at the touch of your fingers, great size and shape for portability, can look things up over wifi during a game

>Hexcase for samsung notes
Has a kickstand to position it on the table facing you while you're standing rather than laying flat and having to pick it up to use it, protects it from grubby fingers if someone else wants to look something up, leather handle strap makes one handed use convenient.

>19mm or larger casino dice
Great for turn order, miracles dice, command points, or other important things you track with dice but shouldn't use a dice the blends in to your other dice

The next thing I'm going to get are wound counters to put next to models, and maybe one of those artsy fartsy miracles dice trays from etsy.

>>96291700
Hating xenos unironically is gay, autistic and a sign you were a natural born slave/NPC
Hating xenos ironically is fun as fuck specially if you have a friend who plays them to pick on
Which side are you on anon

>>96291724
A false dichotomy is gayer, I choose neither

We frigpostan, we frenspostan
>high resolution image below
https://files.catbox.moe/7cfwla.png
>>96290204

Proud of you fren get fridged

>>96290915
ADB did a forum post on this in 2013
https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271640-misconceptions-about-csm/page/4/#entry3316051

Its basically full of backstabbing and deals. Almost like how we think dark eldar society to be like, really.
You have best friends, but you can never remove the nagging feeling he might betray you. So maybe if you betray him first?
Maybe you need ressources? Or what if a daemon compels you to kill your friend? Wjat if a daemon compelled him to kill you?
Its like a game of werewolf but the werewolf changes every turn.

>>96291369
>The books explicitly state that the Citadel of Vraks was protected by a massive void shield array to protect from orbital bombardment
So are void ships, and the Navy still fires at and overpowers the voidshields in those. Only way to make sense is if the planetary voidshields are much more powerful than what you can find in ships and if the city can effectively retaliate to make it so the Navy can't just park there and bomb it enough to overload the shields.

All of that can be reasonably explained with redundant shield generators and some mean orbital cannons, but what doesn't make sense to me is why they don't use the things that are useful against shielded targets, like torpedo saturation or bombs designed to disrupt shields.

>>96291712
Oh no, they can be actual bros and hold oaths but eventually it pays off more to betray your allies.

>>96291385
>faction that's part of the universe sisnce the beginning doesn't fit the universe.

>>96290806
Craftworld Eldar are just Warhammer Fantasy High Elfs with enclosed helmets.
I'm sorry that you are so addicted to Japan that you have to relate everything to it.
Why do you even collect Warhammer when you can just 3D print your waifus?

>>96291773
>Craftworld Eldar are just space Tolkien noldor elfs mixed with a post apocaliptic The Culture
FTFY

>>96291653
Do you dilute it first?

>>96291764
I forget which book it was, but from what I do remember the planetary void shields don't run out of energy as easily as ship-based ones do, as they can pull from the energy generation of the entire hive.

>>96290616
>you know what our dwarf faction is missing?
>no?
>primaris
>this isn't the marine faction
>make them primaris robots
I will never understand what the inspiration for Votann is. They all look ugly, Space Wolves out-dwarf their hair and beards, and all their hovercars are street cleaners.
It's like playing against a third party army.

>>96291745
>I finally got Fridged.

It honestly was a great motivator to get the big bastard done! Now I just need to get some games in with him.

Cheers fren!

>>96291667
Damn she thicc

>>96291745
carnac this samefagging is even sadder when you get rangebanned and the warhammer threads die suddenly

Are Votann cool now?

Stripping some models I fucked up in isopropanol

>>96291241
Is that bonesinger legit or a recast?
I want one to run as a warlock but they're £40 on ebay

>>96291824
LoV are a disaster of product design, yeah. Even their name is a mess.
They've tried to cram inside them a bunch of stuff that just don't work together. You can't have 40k squats, tolkien space dwarfs, Starcraft mini marines, DEI crap, 14yo capilalism bad, norseboo shit, and Zardoz all in the same faction.
They have no coherent direction.

Got the seating done for the base, anyone got some good crater reference images? Wondering how I go about doing that escape pod.

>>96291820
A torpedo salvo accompanied by bombers and fighters would still fuck shit up without even interacting with the voidshields. And the Navy has easy access to EMP-like bombs to instantly shut down shields. It's just still all a handwave to make the infantry combat (what the main game is about) viable, if BFG had become the main product you can bet orbital bombardments would've suddenly have been a lot more effectively than wht they're allowed to be.

>>96291824
>>96291850
The design the Demiurg had in BFG looked much cooler, as are the Necromunda Squats

>>96291850
Name one faction that has a coherent direction. Monofocus subfactions like the Space Wolves don't count

>>96291838
It illustrates the DBZ-like powerlevel problem that 40K is suffering from.
>Custodes job to Norn Emissary
>Emissary jobs to Votann midge
>Votann job to Chaos
>Chaos jobs to Grey Knights
>Grey Knights job to space wolves
etc etc etc

>>96291808
You don't have to. You can reuse it an infinite number of times by straining it out with a small sieve or piece of window screen. Ever better to strain through a coffee filter after. ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES. This shit will rip every ounce of oil off anything, including your skin. Even short exposure is bad enough to make your hands crack and crumble apart in the following days and no amount of coconut oil or moisturizer will help. Even a little bit can fuck up your skin so be smart, this includes during the rinse process.

>>96291865
I don't think any Ork, CWE, Nid or Necron model looks out of place. Xenos supremacy.

>>96291872
Custodes killed the Norn Emissary. They just lost like two guys to it in the process. That's the opposite of jobbing.

>>96291667
Mommy

>>96291872
>powerlevel problem that 40K is suffering from
None of what you described is an issue. Factions shouldn't be much stronger or weaker than everyone else, if they were they would've been annihilated before the game setting began (like the Hrud). Everyone should be roughly ableto deal with everyone else, and strengths and weaknesses being relative to match-ups, but it always reverting into a never-ending deadlock.

I want GSC to have a centrepiece model, in the form of a big-ass heavy vehicle.

>>96291853
Some of the pics from gaza/Israel missile strikes should be helpful. Just type a country followed by "missile crater" and just scroll through until you find something that matches the size and direction you like. Also looking phenomenal so far

>>96291865
One? All factions in 40k have coherent direction save the LoV and whatever the fuck is going on in Necromunda

>>96291903
I want gsc to have a big ass, heavy breasted bug lady to bully them

>>96291872
Anon, let me tell you about MMA math...

>>96291933
Lmfao

>>96291850
>and Zardoz
Maybe we just didn't have enough Zardoz

>>96291964
I've had enough of that and I just saw it for the first time

>>96291824
Votann suffer from being directionally confused. I don't like them as a faction or aesthetically but they seem to be doing well.

>>96291880
>lifeform born thirty minutes ago instagibs a crowd of warriors that have been training since the existence of the Thunder Warriors
lmao no bro

>>96291872
>>96291880

The main issue with the Norn/Custodes thing basically boils down to Custodes players wanting to be the most special "Never loses" faction and so they screech bad writing and get mad at the slightest hint that they might lose a fight.

See Custards vs GK (Terminus), Custards vs Norn and Custards vs Clowns. It all boils down to Custard (And to a certain extent, GK) players being obsessed with their faction never losing

>>96291974
Tau had a theme when they came out and did well.

Votann feels lethargic for a startup.

>>96291976
In the same line, it's a supreme killer beast created by billions of years of combat adaptations and galaxies' worth of harvested genes

>>96291976
custards spent ten thousand years against rice farmers
notice how the moment they start fighting actual threats they start dying

>>96291903
Huge caterpillar engineering vehicle with a wrecking ball arm?

>>96291997
Yeah that's a good point.
>>96292000
>custards spent ten thousand years against rice farmers
They've been playing blood games and kidnapping Iron Warriors for games of tag in the imperial palace

>>96291993
Before I got the codex I agreed with Custodes vs GKs being dumb, thinking the Custodes would 100% win despite being a GK fan.

HOWEVER
>read codex
>lol, lmao, GKs have the psi-titans
>so thats what happened to them after the heresy

>>96290006
>>96290239
>>96290304
>>96290580
>>96291714
Thanks guys!
I'm thinking about using a dice holder like pic related scaled up to hold 16mm d6 dice with actual numbers on them like the dice that come in TTRPG dice packs.

There is no unit in 40k including legends that goes up beyond 66 wounds, right?

>>96291993
>>96292000
Custodes are hyped but they job when the plot requires it, like any other faction.
Their whole HH arc is about being massacred by daemons and little else.

>>96291993
>Custodes players wanting to be the most special "Never loses" faction and so they screech bad writing and get mad at the slightest hint that they might lose a fight
Every now and then I still run into the copefest about the clowns clowing on them in the Beast series, like inventing an entjre side lore about how the author supposedly confused the Custodes for a Terran imperial guard regiment, even though reading the passages it's extremely clear the Custodes are described as colossal superhumans in gold armor as opposed to the regular soldiers they tell to fuck off before engaging the Harlequins.

>>96292022
You forgot that they also have allied chapters of Marines and also they are willing to use Chaos sorcery.

>>96292041
To be fair, it's true that Custodes were not yet the "better than Astartes" dudes of later lore.
There's a scene in an early HH novel where a World Eater rips the heart of a Custodes with his bare hands in melee combat.

>>96292023
I think the Warlord Titan has a flat 100 wounds but I somehow doubt you'll run into that rule set very often.

>>96291628
Yeah I know, anything to put it off a bit more eh? :) I've done my main army and secondary, I just can't be arsed working on whats left - its all spur of the moment purchases.

How many dice do I need to play knights? 32?

Terrain question
I played this layout yesterday and I am confused about a couple things.
Obviously the blue does not block LoS
But the striped dark grey areas. You can't see through it all, obviously, but once someone steps in they can see out and can be seen

Are the light grey walls the only parts of the terrain that block all LoS?
If you are in the terrain and behind those lines, you can't be seen. But if you are not behind those lines then you can be seen?

I ask because I went to a fun doubles tourney a couple weeks ago and the physical buildings completely enclosed the grey stripes meaning there is no way to see units out or in. I then played a game yesterday and we played it like that tourney I went to and it was pretty ridiculous that nothing happened once you walked into a ruin.

What is the most fun army matchup?

>>96290204
Trying to handle with my new magnifying lamp

>>96291872
you freaks would scream about Richard the Lionheart getting killed by a kid with a crossbow. Wars arent just shitty statchecks

>>96291995
The newer ones that just recently came out look better but I just think their whole design philosophy is bad from the ground up.

>>96292069
Alright I'll do it then.
Library has an FDM printer so I can make those wound trackers to make things easier for me and opponent.

>>96292098
Blue = less than 2 inches cover. This is cover that blocks LoS but vehicles can move over them

>>96292067
The Custodes in question were weakened by bio-weapon years before that's why he retired to be a prison guard.

Anyway, I disagree. The Throneworld novel came out near the release of the Master of Mankind novel. MoM features them as being superior to Marines.

>>96292067
Even if they are made better expertise goes a long way. I can see a World Eater being able to punch above hia weight class (pun intended) in the one thing he specializes in. Plus, thia kind of thing only makes people seethe when it's the people they self-insert as getting wrecked.

When was the last time you've ever seen someone complaining about Yarrick defeating a Warboss in hand to hand and chomping his klaw off?

>>96292101
"your dudes" versus "my dudes"

>>96292112
Blue blocks LOS too?
Jeez, 10th is dense as fuck

Hello, I just started painting. I got the getting started pack with one Tyranid and a Spacemarine. Pic rel, it's how it turned out. I think I did a pretty decent job, but any pointers are much apreciated!

>>96292101
orks vs orks
trying to beat your opponent in a WAAAAGH!!-off, almost getting you both kicked out of the store, will never be topped.

>amazon
>CK Abominant is $190
>CK Ruinator is $160
It's the same goddamned kit with a different picture on the front.

>>96292041
Guy Haley wrote that book, it doesn't count because he's an Eldarfag.

>>96292133
It's unfortunately a necessary evil of every unit being dead in one or two activations if they are visible to the enemy at all.

>>96292106
>would scream about Richard the Lionheart getting killed by a kid with a crossbow.

To be fair, I can livingly picture the English/Angevin state scream about him dying after paying two to three times the annual income to recently free the bastard.

>>96292152
One thing I wish in 11th ed would be only the models visible could be assigned wounds to. Boarding Actions have this mechanic.

>>96291559
Thats a good idea

>>96292151
Guy Haley has written over 50 books for 40k and the only one that paints the Eldar in even a slightly good light is Valedor (also considered the only good Eldar lore book) in which they only manage a pyrrhic victory instead of the usual total loss. What makes you think he's specifically an Eldar fag?

>>96292176
unfortuantely that makes some units completely broken to the point of the game becoming non-functional

>>96292133
10th is a bad game trying to solve the problem of too many large models crowding a small table. they refuse to make standard armies smaller because then people have to buy fewer models, so instead we get peekaboo garbage.

>>96292135
Lighting makes it a bit hard to see everything but it looks pretty decent for a first model, keep at it anon

>>96292151
And capital-C Harlequin Characters killing a few mook Custodes is unreasonable? More or less what I'd expect pitting their respective units against each other in the game.

>>96292185
Can you provide a single example?

>>96292151
>Guy Haley wrote that book
Gav Thorpe wrote that book.

>>96292198
People get really upset when you talk about hhoe easily Custodes or Marines die in the tabletop and how it's not lore accurate.

>>96292185
That's why a new edition designed around that maybe can fix it. I know it's a game so realism isn't a thing but it's really stupid for your entire unit to get wiped out just because the tip of one guy's barrel was seen by a rogal dorn tank so all hell ensues.

>>96291872
>>Chaos jobs to Grey Knights
Depends on the Legion. A Thousand Sons Sorcerer solo'd 5 Grey Knights when they suddenly showed up and attacked him. He had no idea who they were but after killing the 5 of them in a manner of seconds he was not impressed.

>>96292207
I wouldn't say Custies die "easily" in the game (I think as far as infy goes they're the toughest, no?), but they're far from immortal like HH readers want them to be.

>>96292152
But those light grey walls. Are they only part that prevents a unit from being seen in that foorprint? Or is the entire striped area a no-see zone regardless of the terrain placed on it

>>96292103
Good to see you again eyeanon! Hope you get use to your lamp.

If I may offer a bit of critique, your bases, are you going for smoke or snow? If snow I would highly recommend you try a texture/effect paint instead.

>>96292211
But you have to understand it's to simulate a dynamic battle field that is actually in flux
So naturally when one guy pokes his head out and gets domed the guys behind him all try the same thing

>>96292212
Wasn't that Ahriman, the undisputed most powerful TSon still walking?

>>96292198
>And capital-C Harlequin Characters killing a few mook Custodes is unreasonable?
Yes. Eldar shouldn't even be capable of touching a Custodes.

>>96292268
Just like you're not capable of touching a woman eh

>>96292268
Because...?

>>96292196
Yeah i should get a lamp. The lighting kinda screwed me when I did the shading on the spacemarine. But i can cope and say it's dirt from a battle

>>96292267
No, even worse that was Iskandar Khayon. Ahriman is too busy jerking off to Eldar porn he stole from the Black Library.

>>96292199
>>96292211
necron wraiths with a technomancer conga-lining onto an objective while behind a big piece of cover
At the end of the turn strat for reanimation protocol or even just during his command phase, reanimation protocol and bring those units back

DKOK with a medipack, winning an objective forever because two guys are in LoS touching the objective and the other 8 are securely jacking off, ressurecting the lost to claim the objective while never really being able to kill them

>>96292315
>Iskandar Khayon
... the guy that bound daemon Magnus?

>>96292235
That is $2 temu snow lmao, i just experemented. Maybe I'll order later, thanks for the advice.

>>96292308
I recently got a lamp like pic related to save desk space and it's pretty awesome. Also quite cheap.

>>96292288
Eldar already lose in fights against regular humans. It takes a single company of Marines to utterly destroy an entire Craftworld.
A Custodes is far beyond what any Eldar is capable of reaching.

>>96292268
I'll have you know that my Eldar regularly beat Custodes on the tabletop.

>>96292267
Lmao it being Ahriman is one hell of a buried lede.

>>96292221
They're tough cookies but marines have a few units that do well at chewing through them. I do think the weapon profiles for everything this edition are bland and kind of strong. Lot of AP.

>>96292318
I do that a lot with my Neophytes and Acolytes' Cult Icon.
>resurrect models at the start of the command phase towards an objective that I'm not into the range of
>magically have OC on the point at the end of the command phase to score VP

>>96292334
Just because GW needs to give your NPC army broken rules to sell their shitty models doesn't mean that's how the lore is.

Valrak
>>I'm getting bored of 40k, it's affecting my painting
>>Trying to get motivated to paint, I think next I will do Subjugators as my fourth army, or maybe more Crimson Fists
>man has three Imperial Fist successor armies, feels "bored," and his only potential change up is to paint a fourth Fist successor
what the fuck is wrong with space marine fans

>>96292325
Looks good, i'll go and see if i can find something similar. Thanks!

>>96291241
>>96291271
>>96291330
'Twas battle-morn near fair Alaitoc,
when a fluff-brain Revenant tried to rock:
“Thou rust-bucket Warlord, come!
Let's jab and jive - my pulselance is glum
for lack of mon-keigh scrap to mock!”
”He capered forth on twinkle-toes,
all holofield and pompous pose;
the Warlord bellowed, then revved its fist,
a chain-tipped claw no wraith could miss.
Snicker-snack! went the Revenant’s knees,
and shins, and pride, and all unease.
“Oh fudge!” cried the Revenant, half-gyrate,
“I thought you'd parry, not amputate!”
The Princeps sneered, “Too late, too late,
you’re just a hood-ornament on my Titan’s plate.”
Looking on the Farseers sighed, “Alack!
We told him: 'Never hug a chain-attack!'
He ignored our runes, dismissed our lore,
now lies in pieces from crown to core!

>>96292212
>after killing the 5 of them in a manner of seconds he was not impressed.
He was severely wounded and lost an arm in the process.

>>96292267
Khayon, whom Ahriman says is the second-best sorcerer in the TS

>>96292348
>watching sloptubers
you're a fucking faggot and need to go back

>>96292348
We're simply superior to you

>>96292353
So still a Named Man who could conceivably do such a thing, albeit at cost.

I have a question for Decal-dude(wont say bundle of sticks).

Or whoever that can answer my question. Due to the nature of my metallic army and inability to put a topcoat on my models because it dulls the metallics.

I need to make a stamp/stencil that I can re-use. Because they WILL rub off without a varnish/topcoat. Not interested in making my own decals off a sheet, but I do want to know if I can make it easier on myself.

I own an airbrush. Pic related but not the exact symbol.
>I REALLY do not want to cut out a dragons head in heat-bent plasticard and then break it, losing my symbols negative

>>96292353
khayon is pure slop and may as well not be canon

>>96292364
i just like leaks

>>96291845
it's real I picked up a few when GW did a rerun of them, so they are good old metal, I use them as spiritseers obviously. Feels great but I fear placing him near the finecrap spiritseer. I¨ll try to get a newer picture of the caster Cadre soon.

>>96292350
Fuck me I chuckled poemanon!

I'll think of your verse when I try salty tears when I break the arms off.

>>96292383
If we ignored canon just because it was trash we would all be stuck with diddly dick.

>>96292268
10 incubi with an archon in SSA overkill your average 6man custodes squad pretty handily, and Incubi aren't even the strongest Eldar warriors around

>>96292212
That book had everyone fucking jobbing except for Ahriman and his special disciple.

>>96292415
See >>96292346
In the actual lore a single Custodes would murder the entire squad and take the Archon's head before they even had time to defend themselves.

>>96289870 (OP)
>TQ
the Ork half of Assault on Black Reach

I remember when marines were 1 wound each (and thousand sons were 2wounds).

I hear arguments over who can kill who when its put in the fucking book.
>but muh space marine 2
You're the protagonist beating thousands of equal-to-you chaos space marines by the triple squads at once. You get to play master chief, and we all know why he's the last spartain.
>>>he's (you) in the game

>>96292431
>In the actual lore
in the actual lore the custodes jobbed to a bunch of random clowns lmao

>>96292452
That's because Harlequins are low key one of the most OP factions in the setting. Cegorach is no laughting matter.
Meanwhile Custodes cut down Deldar like tissue paper in The Dark City book.

>>96291773
Eldar are nothing like WHFB HE and Dark Eldar are nothing like WHFB DE, the only thing they have in common is their pantheon, being good at magic/warp control, and pointy helmets. Also important, Dark Elves and Dark Eldar are dicks for entirely different reasons, and the dynamic between HE/DE vs CWE/DE is nothing alike.
>t. Bretonnia and CWE enjoyer with 6.75" penis

>>96292475
Then explain how Drazhar dueled and killed three Custodes simultaneously.

>>96292452
Once again; 'lore' written by an Eldarfag author who later admitted he misrepresented the Custodes.

>>96292431
>In the actual lore
Custodes have canonically been killed a LOT by the Dark Eldar in the Watchers of the Throne series. And those weren't even to the Incubi, just the covens.

>>96292482
Proof?

>>96292482
>who later admitted he misrepresented the Custodes.
That's an urban legend that has never been substantiated.

>>96292483
>in the Watchers of the Throne
BL isn't canon.

>>96291872
It's just plain stupid and it gets the wrong people hyped up about power levels that shouldn't matter because it's gritty scifi where anyone should be able to die to pretty much anything.

>>96292452
I really like death jesters I just wish the model wasn't so oddly posed. Very one note.

custodes will really fight a bunch of literal circus performers (wyches) and call themselves overpowered then get assraped by a bunch of literal clowns or a retired tranny aspect warrior

>>96292480
Drazhar is a Phoenix Lord and likely almost as strong as a Primarch. You can't really call him a normal Incubi.

>>96292505
>and likely almost as strong as a Primarch.
What the fuck are you smoking? Phoenix Lords are Captain level at best.

The 8th ED Drukhari codex has a timeline event about the Drukhari slaughtering a Custodes force and making examples of them.

>>96292480
Easy, third hand gossip and fishing tales that never happened. It's not a real scene in a book, just a story told in Commoragh, so worthless

>>96289870 (OP)
>TQ
I was quite confused when I was getting into 40k back then since I was finding every army interesting in a way so I ended up buying bunch of stuff only to sell it soon. CSM Start Collecting was the first box I bought and never got rid off. I still have all the minis from that box, every single miniature in my CSM army magnetised so whenever GW releases a new CSM unit I simply kitbash it with old CSM and Firstborn stuff.

>>96292505
>Drazhar is a Phoenix Lord
Sure
>and likely almost as strong as a Primarch.
Lmao, no he isn't.
If he ever fights Guilliman, Lion or any traitor primarch, that bitch is getting folded in half 6 times and then beheaded.

>>96292483
Custodes wiped the floor with individual Deldar in that series until the end, where they were trapped and surrounded by a fucking army.
>>96292497
Shut the fuck up, nigger
>>96292505
>Phoenix Lord likely almost as strong as a Primarch
holy shit the delusion, lol
Phoenix lords may kill marines all day long, but bitch please

>>96292531
BL isn't canon, only codexes are.

>>96292538
Take your meds, retard. Stop being a nuissance with your brain farts here

>>96292511
Huh, so it does.

>>96292547
>"apparent"
>no bodies
>no proof
No, it doesn't. Custodes also do not tell their whereabout to the inquisition.
The most likely scenario is that Custodes killed the Deldar playing with shit they shouldn't and left. Then more Deldar arrived to kill the inquisitor force and told a story to save face.

>>96292510
>Phoenix lords are captain level at best
Every 10 years, all of the Rogal Dorn successor chapters send their single strongest fighter to the Feast of Blades. This is a competition of close quarters combat, with only the single deadliest combatant making it out of there alive. One Captain, known as a combat prodigy, was the first captain in known history to win the Feast of Blades twice, beating out every High Marshall, every chapter-master, every honorguard, every Emperor's Champion.

He was, quite literally, peerless and the absolute strongest an Astartes can be in terms of bladework, noted to be as good (if not better) than Sigismund in his prime.

He got put into an arena with Lelith and managed to graze her once before dying. Against normal 'high ranking' Astartes, Lelith starts dicking around with things like carving her personal sigil into people between attacks to make the fight last longer. This is a Wych cult leader, fighting with no armour and with kitchen knives instead of real weapons. She's about as good as the strong Clowns like Solitaires. The Phoenix lords like Jain Zar (pre-gimping) and Drazhar are a step above even that.

>Drazhar is one of very few Commorrites whose atrocities are widely admired within the Dark City. The deeds of this enigmatic bladesman are often spoken about, particularly by those Drukhari who managed to secure his services on a real space raid. There are countless stories of his macabre work, such as the time he personally butchered every Imperial defender in the spire of Hive Tarson, or when he single-handedly dispatched a trio of Custodian Guard at close quarters.

The Drukhari do raid and capture/kill Custodes, their best characters have been noted to destroy Custodes

>>96292582
The Custodes 8th ed timeline section has a mention of the Imperials covering up Custodes' death and defeats because recording them equals being killed by the Imperial authorities.

>>96292544
I'm right. BL is secondary trash and doesn't matter to the fluff at all. It's just tie in fiction and filler.

>>96292538
>>96292599
GW has said BL is the firstmost source of canon
cope harder

>>96292599
Shut up subhuman, your betters are speaking.
If you can't follow the discussion, go to sniff glue in the /wip/ thread.

>>96292612
Trying WAY too hard

>>96292591
yes, Custodes are defeated and die all the time like the rest (That time one ate an Armiger melta lance comes to mind).
But those specific encounters with the DEldar are very suspect.

>>96292610
canon is a marketing term that only matters to a particularly autistic subset of customers.

>>96292624
>goalposts shifted
try harder

Would it be bad if I wanted to make a cheap thousand sons army out of three boxes of these guys?

I've been checking Blood Angels' datasheets on Wahapedia and it seems Death Company variants are just Assault Intercessors, Intercessors and Brutalis with almost the same loadout. Is this why BA players were upset?

>>96292645
yes they look nothing like anything Tsons related

>>96292645
yes
thousand sons are gay

>>96292589
I really hate that sort of "oh man, X is so cool that it's actually effortless and everyone is so shit compared to them they don't even need to try". It's bad, it's gay, and the people that enjoy it come into threads to complain that in some book their favorite faction got clowned on.

>>96292612
Bad bit

>>96292646
>lost librarian dread
>lost unique terminators
>new DC """sculpts""" are shitty upgrade sprues
>new SG are wingless abominations
>new sanguinor is trash
>new astaroth is trash
>new lemartes is mid
>new captain and saguinary priest are generic enough to be ultramarines sculpts

>>96292651
I'd convert them of course. I'm not into trim-apocalypse and ship mast helmets.

>>96292645
>cheap
How? You get more dudes for the buck, but without special/heavy weapons, or the lead sorcerers
Not to mention not looking like 40k TS at all without more conversion work (more money)

>>96292589
>She's about as good as the strong Clowns like Solitaires
Didn't a Solitaire make her rethink life choices with a look that one time? I think in Gathering Storm.

>>96292663
I agree with most of your list, but GW still sells BA termies:
https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/Blood-Angels-Terminator-Assault-Squad

anyone collecting White Dwarf and can tell me if the last one is woth it jut for the transer sheet alone? They are usually 20€+
and the entire white dwarf is "only" 9€

>>96292675
they don't have a unique datasheet anymore
and they got ignored in the update while dangels and wolves got theirs refreshed

>>96292670
I would paint them appropriately.

Triarch praetorians should be solitaire-level and able to take on custodes without issue

>>96292645
I'm happy with it
I just now noticed the fuzz

>>96292694
And deathmarks should be lone snipers and not Napoleonic riflemen, but here we are.

How are the imperial agents? Specifically the arbites? I have veletaris storm axe models I want to field as proxies for those arbites with maul and shield.

>>96292681
What rules do they need? They're just assault terminators plus the option to make one an Ancient

I have a 1k chaos wardog army

Because I play casually only, should i consider getting another army in case this one is too oppressive?

>>96292710
>you should be HAPPY that you get less than everybody else
suckstart a shotgun

>>96292707
SA models are better proxies for imperial navy troopers. They're their forefathers after all

>>96292710
they need rules to make them actually viable like DWK and wolfguard you fucking retard

Votann?

>>96292715
less than what? Stop being a retard and make sense.
The models are playable and they've not lost any option. What else is there?

>>96292717
Just want melee shock troops to roll up in a chimera and cause melee mayhem.
But I’ll look into imperial navy troops.

>>96292721
Ah, so you are a butthurt waacfag. You should have said that first instead of pretending to care about BA.

>>96292731
trying too hard

>>96292672
Not sure which specific instance you are referring to, but Solitaires are seriously no joke. They are the chosen of two Gods )Slaanesh and Cegorach) and have all the blessings of both and it shows. I would definitely not bat an eyelash at one of them killing a custodes in the lore

do you edge highlight horde units?

I have 20 boyz i've just done, idk if i should highlight or just varnish and move onto the next project

>>96292739
Not if they're supposed to be battered, like my necron warriors

>>96292308
What did you use for a wash? It looks really dark and inconsistent.

>purchased a lord of contagion model secondhand
It was easier and cheaper for me to get the oop LoC than it was to pay 90 bucks for a preorder for a lord of poxes. Fucking gw and their shitty production schedule.

>>96292612
Great it's this fag again

>>96292765
stop replying to your own stale bait

>>96292755
> lord of contagion
well done, probably the most badass DG model ever. It's stupid that GW doesn't sell it
>lord of poxes
It's a shit model anyway, just proxy it with the champion of the DG kill team

>>96292755
It's honestly kind of ridiculous how shit GW is at keeping any of their inventory in stock or producing the highly desirable releases in reasonable quantities. Like every range in the game has a fifth of their models out of stock at any given time and several models still trapped in a bundle because they never split the sprue sheet. This game is huge and the community has gotten even huger in the last 5 years but GW absolutely cannot keep up with demand at all and has been glacial at trying to expand their production capabilities.

>>96292646
I'm just sad they took away my Lib dread, and took away sg wings.

>>96290145
>I can't wait for them to write about the Dark Age of Technology where everything was shit, everyone was a monster, technology was crude
Technology was crude. That bit pisses me off. Its been a thing forever that what came before was much much better than what can be made later. Then Birth of Imperium is telling me about how they made power armor for the Thunder Warriors. Not used ancient caches of forgotten god plate that later on only poor shitty copies were available. But they made shit power armot then made successive improved marks of armor. What the fuck is this bull shit. I am very very mad.

>>96290363
Needs more terrain. ZAlso beat the shit out that lazy ass guard player. It's easy as fuck to paint tanks.

>>96290405
the old books had jokes about how it was scientifically proven that painted models rolling better

>>96292769
?

>>96292803
They definitely do roll better. The only time they don't is the first time you take them in a game, then they will roll like dogshit and explode into red mist before they get to do anything.

>>96291724
>Which side are you on anon
The ork and nid players. They make the best pairing against guard.

Is it me or are chaos space marines just worst marines?

>>96290123
Didn't the last HH book basically say that emps and horus' final battle created chaos by sending their psychic family issues to the beginning of time? He's now essentially responsible for every bad thing that happens in the setting that doesn't involve necrons or eldar.

>>96292839
>saying this when codex compliant chapters exist

>>96292676
There is this guy if you're interest
https://www.etsy.com/shop/ImpatientTabletop

>>96292697
Cute little coral tree

>>96292851
No, it didn't. That's just retards misreading that book and shitposters parroting it.
The book is bad for many reasons, but that's not one of them

>>96292851
Emperor is his own Grandpa now and should have listened to Doc Malcador about changing the past.

>>96292851
no. completely incorrect. what echoed backwards through time was the act of the murder itself, Horus' murder becoming the "first murder" of history thus the blade etcetc.

>>96292876
Someone wrote this and thought it sounded cool.

>>96292441
I got so many 10 dollar boxnaughts because of that set.

>>96292866
Ok good. I was worried that was actually true because it would've ruined the whole narrative otherwise.

>>96292876
I hate it.

How does this game test skill when you put a guy that statistically should tank stuff just fine then suddenly you fail four 2+ saves with 5+ fnps in a row and die to random Lootas overwatching

>>96292876
post the text.

>>96292919
Who plays this garbage competitively? I am here to plop my guard on a board of sick terrain and yell at my plastic ment to hold the line for the god emperor as the orks swarm over the defenses.

>>96290548
most warhammer fans are shoot retarded and don't read.

>>96292900
>>96292866
Then explain why 514 WD says that chaos gods were involved in the war in heaven and have always been the greatest evil across all of history start to end.

>>96290548
If the Dune remakes hadnt just come out no one here would have realized.

>>96292951
that's entirely unrelated, retard-kun

>>96292951
I ignore bad lore. Simple as.

>>96292951
the war in heaven birthed the first three gods, of course they were involved in the war
>>96292952
>nobody on /tg/ has read the singlemost influential sci-fi book ever written
(you)

>>96292962
>first three gods
No lore says this

>>96292786
Furioso looks fun as well but it's massively outplayed by Brutalis.

>>96292886
Really was a great set to get into the game with, I split it with my friend and he desperately wanted the marine half so I got orks
I was pretty happy with them, the warboss model still looks great and ork players still run the scoliosis boyz seeing as the new kit is a total scam

>>96292830
>>96292856
Didn’t the iron warriors take some votann holds in a chaos space marine codex?

>>96292962
>First three gods
Malice, Mork, and Gork?

Could I use him as a Dark Angels Captain in Terminator Armor?

>>96292986
sure

>>96292986
Who would stop you.

>>96292986
Its in termy armor with DA symbols on it. I don't see why not. Also this >>96292991

>>96292986
You'd need to put him on a 50mm base instead of the 40mm one he's packaged with, but otherwise sure whatever who the hell cares.

>>96292988
>>96292991
>>96292994
I more mean scale wise, will it look weird besides truescale terminators or Deathwing Knights?

>>96292936
Can confirm, how to reinvigorate reading muscles?
Codexes are a good start but what else should I read? Anything good from bl?

>>96292998
I just accept theres manlets and ancients among numarines.

>>96293001
my rule of thumb for everything is not to read the fiction written for the setting but read the stuff that inspired the setting.

>>96292976
The coolest thing about the furioso is the frag cannon

What day of the week does GW usually release Balance update dataslates on? Are we finally getting that emergency nerf next week?

>>96293010
Fair enough. Thank you.
Besides the obvious dune that inspired 40k how are the moorcock books?

>>96290204
Now THIS is some good-ass purple demon skin. Fucking finally, I love how this turned out slaanesh gray is such a nice lovely color.

Now I have no more excuses. Tomorrow I gotta start painting up my demon prince. Idk why Im so anxious about it its not like I havent painted bigger models before.

>>96293021
anything of that realm is gonna be good, i think. libgen should get you all the epubs you need.

Dark Angels have a bunch of cool stuff no one talks about
>Firewing
>Hexagrammaton
>Hekatonystika
There is so much room to make /yourdudes/ here, this is cool as flip

I want to get into 40K but none of my friends are into it. Is there any point if I have no one to play with?

>>96290616
i don't and even less the color scheme. terrible.
to big, to human to not votan, lack of robotic parts.

look like Space custodies.

>>96293036
read books(for free in corners of the net) and look around for communities before vomiting cash
>you can always make and paint them to sell

>>96292098
OH blue is LOS blocking?? Like a 2inch high box?
I thought blue was like a magic puddle that infantry got cover if they sat in but vehicles couldn't park on

>>96293036
You got a game store local to you? GW stores dont count.

>>96293036
the modeling, painting and you will find ppl. its the 21 century and the internet can be used for more then just porn.

>>96293031
>Dark Angels have
*Dark Angels had

If you want to play The Horus Heresy, you can do that. But that's not what this thread is about.

>>96293055
>ts the 21 century and the internet can be used for more then just porn.
Liar!

>>96292393
Lucky you for grabbing him MTO.
I really want one but refuse to pay £40 for 1 model, so will wait until an ebay steal is up or eventually buy recast if I can find one

>>96293062
Well /mydudes/ keep the tradition going into 40k

Why do custodesfags get so fucking angry if you talk about custodes dying?
Living out a power fantasy via fictional bananamen?

>>96293071
>mydudes
Post them.

>>96293072
any power level talk is garbage

>>96293074
When they are done, feel free to make fun of me until then. I still can't decide if I want to use all hooded heads or a mix of them and unhooded MKVI + MKIII heads

>>96293013
Zapping your units across the map is also dope, I don't know why GW hates fun. I was just entertaining the idea of collecting Blood Angels and painting them as Flesh Tearers but they seem to take all the fun out of it.

>>96293072
>Play small game against 'stodes late last edition
>Sagittarum squad gets within sight of Farseer
>Lmao boosted Smite and Executioner
>Sagittarum squad is no longer on the board.
Doesn't seem like too big a deal to me.

>>96293072
>your dudes are the strongest dudes
>..until we need them to show how strong someone else is

>>96293036
Most lgs have a store discord or Facebook page where you can post asking for pickup games.

>>96293102
yes, that's the definition of a jobber
which is what custodes are

>>96291667
Noice.

>>96293072
A lot of people latch onto the idea that they're the strongest most elite bestest boys, and so any mention of them doing anything outside that harms their reasoning for why they enjoy them.

>>96293072
when you latch on to the ''le one in a million super special soldier boys'' it's becomes part of your personality that you must defend them at any cost cause else they are no longer special
it's the same deal with shounen faggotry within anime fans

>>96291824
Not the heckin dwarfarinoos!

>>96292711
help

>>96293072
Custodes are the Eldar of the Imperium

This guy >>96293108 gets it. I asked at the counter as to when do people usually play 40k and on the weekend I met with the store's unofficial 40k community manager, who got me into the local 40k group, gave me painting tips, actually did some painting on some of my models etc. All around a cool guy, so you might get extremely lucky like I did.

>>96291824
>I will never understand what the inspiration for Votann is.
Every masterwork has its imitators.

>>96293031
>>96293071
Contrary to what that guy is telling you the Dark Angels still have all that shit in the lore kicking about for the big jobs (read: Fallen). There's a lot of fun to be had there but it probably won't ever be represented on tabletop. Still feel free to go hog wild, nobody is so anal about WYSIWYG that they will care if your combi-melta is a combi-disintegrator.

>>96292722
Yes, sir, they call themselves the Votann.
Space Jews, if you will, sir. They are addicted to utilizing AI to market speculate in this time of ending.

Could Lelith Hesperax kill Kharn if she used a proper weapon?

>>96293245
I dont care

>>96293218
Thin this.

Shepherds pie?

>>96293256
Behave yourself.

>>96293256
ok can you at least fucking tell us what's the deal with this image if you're going to schizo spam it every thread

>>96293245
No. She would keep slashing at him and he would get more and more angry and finally her slashes would stop mattering and he would kill her. Kharn dueled Azrael and Azrael pretty much "killed" him multiple times and Kharn didn't care and kept swinging. Finally Azrael noticed that the longer they fight Kharn is getting stronger and Azrael can''t keep up with him so he ended up trolling Kharn and escaping. Kharn was also about to kill Abaddon and Khorne was forced to stop him.

>>96293277
do you have any more 40k memriTV memes?

How do Death Guard fight when they have exposed parts of their body? What if a bolter round hits his belly and explodes inside of him?

>>96293266
>>96293284
I posted my shepherds pie like in october and he's decided to latch onto it for some reason. Just ignore him

>>96293316
They don't care. The magic warp bullshit of Nurgle makes them keep on fighting even if missing organs etc. They'll eventually grow back even more deformed and messed up than before, and the plague marine will thank the grandfather for the gift.

So the Votann Kin sometimes look like rock people because they came out of the cloning vat overcooked?

Also still hunting for the Onslaught box :(

>>96293299
Yes, but I don't take dump requests. What's with this general and begging for reaction images?

>>96293256
>>96293322
That looks filthy as fuck. Not the pie, the shit around it.

>>96293331
They're fucking gone everywhere as far as I can tell. Being scalped on ebay for more than the GW model price.

>>96293335
We should have more thread themed reaction images.

>>96293331
>>96293344
That's what you get when you sell a 170$ sprue for fucking 50$. They were asking for it. They should've priced it more reasonably like 100$-120$ and it would be still in stock.

Thinking about selling my old Nurgle stuff I haven't touched in like a year and starting a new army. Maybe Grot Revolutionaries using the GSC rules.

>>96293322
oh. I was just curious what's the deal with the image, I hope he gets cancer honestly

>>96293343
Ye, my bf decided to try and deep fry hashbrowns in a crepe pan after seeing me do it in my Dutch oven and set my whole stove on fire. The coating is totally fucked on it and I've been scrubbing it for months to no avail

>>96292986
Illegal load out. No.

>>96293355
Well, I'm greedy. I'm not going to just share my sick collection.

>>96293371
>I hope he gets cancer honestly
You shouldn't wish that upon people. Karma and all of that. inb4 "I don't care" Your funeral.

>>96293376
London?

>>96293245
Yeah but then Kharn would just get resurrected by Khorne because chaos characters can't die for real
Alternatively Lelith dies and some haemonculus respawns her because dark eldar characters can't die for real

>>96293376
Nice to see a fellow gay into 40gay

If I spray my minis in my bathroom or living room and only SLIGHTLY open the window (or don't open at all) will I gass myself? How bad it will be?
I want to spray them in my bathroom. How bad of an idea is it?

What game has the better chaos line up

>>96293436
You'll probably get a hell of a headache and maybe pass out. Also there will be paint particles flying around and cover everything in colored dust.

>>96293436
you should avoid bathrooms or any room with high humidity

>>96293436
go outside

>>96293443
i can't believe the dark angels became chaos fags

>>96293403
>karma
nigga shouldn't do it because he's conditioning himself to feel malice towards strangers. sinking into this habit is a disturbing waste of one's time and energy

>>96293443
Archaeon is infinitely better than Abbadon but generally I prefer 40k chaos

>>96293445
What if I use a plastic box? Spray them in the box?

>>96293450
Ah right. That's important. Living room + Box?

>>96293453
Absolutely not. I rather spray my mouth.

>>96293463
Just go the fuck outside retard, before the fumes make you even dumber.

>>96293463
god damn it anon please spraypaint outside for your sake. what is wrong with you
if it's too hot then just postpone until later

>>96293443
>Tzeentch twice
Why?

>>96293443
>Dark Angels

>>96293473
It's tzeentch

>>96293443
>look mom I posted my bait again

>>96293463
If you want to prime inside buy an airbrush

>>96293443
I know I’m the minority here, but I prefer disciples of tzeentch to rubrics.
The thousand sons just feel too uncreative to work with.

>>96293463
if you wanna do it inside just make sure to put on some sort of mask and protect any shit you don't wanna risk getting painted
you can go outside as long as it isn't too humid

>>96293443
neither.

>>96293486
And I thought the the morghur model was absolute dogshit.

>>96293245
No, Kharn has far more fans thus him being removed would have a larger negative impact on GW's revenue. Lelith is only know for porn anyways.

>>96293482
in pure retrospect, I would've changed how rubrics work they make creating any new astartes unut for tsons very difficult

>>96293443
Old World does

>>96293469
>Just go the fuck outside
It's not possible. I need to do it inside somehow.

>>96293472
Is it REALLY that bad to spray inside?

>>96293479
Maybe at some point.

>>96293483
Yeah I know I need to protect stuff. Just was wondering how long fumes and the chemical stink last.
>you can go outside
If I could I wouldn't ask about spraying inside.

>>96293505
if you're spraying inside do it in a room you're not going to be in for a few hours and wear a respirator
ideally have a window open and a fan blowing out if possible

>>96293505
It really REALLY is that bad. Its honestly probably worse than we are saying. If you cannot go outside just fucking wait until you can.

>>96293382
WYSIWYG is dead

>>96293501
With their beastmen, and some woman as their head? Sure.

>>96293516
beastmen are cool and warriors of chaos look cooler than anything abbadon could hope to field

>>96293508
>>96293510
This is more problematic than I thought...

>>96293245
She's pursuing Lucius. Lelith wants Lucius naked with his sword in hand. And Khârn isn't dimes. Lucius can work crowds. Nails-for-brains can't.

>>96293526
Like do you live at the south pole or something? What is stopping you from just going out to the street and spraying for 10 seconds?

>>96293534
yet kharn's provably better than lucius in every way
he even comes back to life on the tabletop better than the seething perpetual loser

>>96293384
>>96293433
Sorry to disappoint but im a straight middled aged lady lmao. But I could probably date a girl if I met the right one.
>>96293413
Markham. London is a shithole full of tweakers

>>96293537
>What is stopping you from just going out to the street and spraying for 10 seconds?
The blistering heat and humidity of the sub tropical zone I live in.

>>96293526
Buy an airbrush

>>96293540
Doesn't matter. Lelith wants what she wants. And above all she wants Lucius.

>>96293436
Don't do that. Spraycan fallout is a thing. Unless you want to be scrubbing dried paint dust off ever surface in the room then you should avoid it like the plague.

>>96293522
the AOS chaos warriors look infinitely better

>>96293541
Cute. My LGS has a couple middle aged women and they're great to be around. The older biker lesbian even brought brownies to the local event one time.

>>96293544
Uhh.. wait until the middle of the night I guess? Temperatures even at the equator should drop to priming safe levels after dark.

>>96293554
retard

>>96293505
If you can't go outside then you can't prime. Don't devalue your home and potentially harm your body because your impatient. That is retarded.

>>96293537
>>96293545
>>96293549
This is a big complication. Alright I got it I won't spray inside. Maybe I can ask someone for help...

>>96293560
yes you are, good job

>>96293562
This has nothing to do with patience.

>>96293566
I accept your concession

>>96293541
>straight middled aged lady
Of all the bullshit I've seen in this general this is the stinkiest of all. There is no way

>>96293557
>Temperatures even at the equator should drop to priming safe levels after dark.
The humidity doesn't.

>>96293547
All Lilith wants is to sit on the faces of slender bodied slaves with small tits. I don't think she's done anything important to the main storyline at any point

>>96293573
That's because there are no women here.

>>96293565
Just prime outside. Most places drop Temps around 3-4 in the morning

>>96293580
the woman was at his LGS, not here

>>96293580
confirmed

I am no WowMan

>>96293573
You can find my tits in the archive if you feel like it. I'm not that pressed about making you believe me.

>>96293594
that was a mannequin, you can stop larping already

>>96293597
keep crying nomodels

>>96293597
If that helps you sleep by all means continue believing that. Not interested in posting 100 pics of my boobs on a blue board.

>>96293622
Literally no one has asked.

>>96293526
buy some brush on primer instead. the good modern ones you can just slop on so while it does take longer than a quick rattlecan blast it's less hassle than dying or getting paint all over a room.

>>96293622
this is not real skin lmao