Thread 96294063

Nuked From Archive Edition

>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits
>Ashes
>One Piece
>The other DBZ game
>Sorcery
>Doomtown
>Warlord
>Magi Nation
>Lord of the Rings
>Neopets
>The Condemned CCG
>Grand Archive TCG
>Disney Lorcana
>Hubworld: Aidalon
>Earthborne Games
>Riftbound
etc.

Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!

Pastebin/Rules for some games
>Wixoss
https://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH
>FoW
https://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF
>Dragonball GT SD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp
>Gate Ruler
https://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB
>Build Divide
https://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz
>FaB
https://rentry.org/oypcs
>Ashes Reborn
https://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S
>Netrunner
https://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w
>Fusion World
https://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/pdf/rules/fw_OfficialRule_Manual_en_v1.00_2.pdf
>Various Japanese CCGs without western translation (page is in moonrunes)
http://card.g1.xrea.com/tcg/catalog.html
>The Condemned CCG
https://pastebin.com/Liu2E7Rq

voice chat for playing /acg/
https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP

>Previous Thread
>>96254561

>Thread Question
What's one thing you appreciate about a game you don't play?

>can't find /acg/
>can't find in archive
>bake new
>old shows up in archive
Well fuck me I guess.

Little Troubles bros.... Set 4 *finally* got announced.
WE ARE SO BACK

>>96294093
That's disgusting, but please keep us informed and post pulls once you get some.

>>96294093
Went and looked this up, what the flying fuck is this, why is this a thing?

Why are furfags like this?

>>96294206
Why is Metazoo a thing? Why is Gundam TCG a thing? Why is Riftbound a thing? Money.

Personally I think Riftbound players are going to be subhman garbage and I'd like to spit in the face of every one I meet.

>>96294348
based

FUCK KANO

>>96294392
Fuck you

>>96294312
>Why are furfags like this
>Money
I'm unconvinced for this particular case

>Berserk tcg is out of print
>speculators bought the cards up after author’s death and prices have inflated like crazy
>make your own translations, get the cards printed, and sell your own English version proxies
>even sell booster packs
hitting legal territory but its a damn shame some unique manga tcgs never even made it to the states and will just remain mostly collectors items

>>96294093
holy based

>>96294348
Well yeah, like just League of Legends players.

Hey smartguy, you forgot to link the previous thread to the new one. I see someone had time for spongebob meme of all things, but no link. Don't forget next time.

>>96294093
Delightful ^_^
I'm glad they're doing well enough to make a fourth set.

>>96294312
your best bet in making a *successful* tcg is by having a strong ip to base it around on top of being fun to play. or come in right when a mass exodus from any of the big 3's playerbases are happening. that's largely how one piece got its wings.

>>96294206
Welcome, tourist. You missed the funniest threads when the little tykes came out to play. It's legitimately disturbing how unironically a few among us here defended this game. Watch you ass, doubly watch your nephew's ass around the one who consorts with beasts.

>>96294063 (OP)
Let us all pray for wixoss

>>96296180
>ouch, my dragonballs

>>96294312
>Why is Metazoo a thing?
Are we sure that it is? I've never met a single human being who played it

>>96299197
I don't get it.

do people still care about sorcery?

>>96299403
it's so over for FABGOTS

>>96294646
>speculators bought the cards up after author’s death and prices have inflated like crazy
Barely heard of the Berserk card game, can't find any info of it having competitive play, and from what I can see its basically dead.
Seeing singles going for hundreds of dollars is insane to me

>>96294646
>>96299940
This is just sad. I miss Muira

>>96296515
I mean, the frame and art is actually pretty good.
If a degenerate furfag game can put in the effort, other games have no excuse.

>>96296515
Not many card games these days sell booster boxes for under $70 shipped

What is the general consensus on Riftbound? Does it look like something worth getting into? Will the support be there?

I'm kind of new to TCGs so I have no idea what people's thoughts are on it. I was considering getting a box or two.

>>96300326
I heard it had some really Jew ass pull rates like not even guaranteed to get a playset of the higher rarity cards in a case which is absurd. Not playing a game with artificial scarcity like that with decks that are going to cost hundreds to 1000+.

>>96300356
>not even guaranteed to get a playset of the higher rarity cards in a case
what on earth game works like this

>>96300372
Bandai games if you buy a case you will get a play set of SR with extras as well as a playset of both SEC/SCR along with whatever alt arts you happen to pull as well.
Maybe you enjoy guzzling semen but I will not be touching a game where paying $1000+ for a case doesn't even get you full playsets of every card in the game.

Gundam fellas, do you think its better to go first or second?

>>96300419
Everyone at my locals pick second when they win die roll. Once we get some powercrept Lvl 1s I'm sure that'll change.

>>96300419
It depends on the matchup. Aggro wants to go first.

>>96300638
What if I'm against Green/White ramp? I feel like I want the extra card and generally be more proactive by going first, but also giving them an extra resource doesn't seem like a good idea....

>>96300821
What do you mean extra card? Going first doesn't get an extra card.

>>96298346
>thanks for buying gun ham
>it's a feature not a bug that you can't get very much of it
>we'll allow you to have more, eventually. Good day to you

>>96300829
I worded it in a retarded way and idk how to best articulate what I mean. Like having more cards in hand before playing a lv2 card if that makes sense

>>96300419
I don't know I'm dogshit at the game

>>96300846
>waaah waaah i can't get product nowww! i have wait for another week or twooo!

>>96300846
My locals had all the stock we could ever want now if only we had any FUCKING PLAYERS

>>96300326
I played it tonight with someone who got demo decks from Gencon. Seems fun, but I'm dubious about the balance of the first set - draw seems very high value, as you'll quickly get to the point you can play any card you draw that turn. Maybe real constructed decks will make better use of recycling your runes to avoid mana flood, but the decks (Victor and Jinx) seemed to have far more mana than cards by mid-game.

Overall it plays fast, art is pretty good but was a little hard to differentiate units of the same color, and has many decision points per turn for the first 4 or 5 turns each game at a minimum. With low draw and limited/no tutors, it'll be very high RNG, mitigated somewhat by the Leaders (who act exactly like Companions prior to nerf, and start with a secondary, nonremovable ability on the field). It'll depend on how it's managed to whether it's actually "good", but the necessary parts are there for a fun game.

>>96300419
RG Zeon is basically the only deck that wants to go first

Day 149 of trying to find the perfect resource system for my game. I want to have effects that are like "When a creature is destroyed gain 1 resource." That is only possible with something like SVE resources, or Digimon. One Piece can do it. I don't know if it does, since I don't follow the game. I don't want to use SVE/Hearthstone's resources. I just find them boring.

I could do something like Lands and floating mana. Dedicated resource cards that just make the 1 resource. It would be easier to track than having multiple colors of mana. It would be easy to cheat with this though, assuming irl play. This would be the best one if I were to make a client and not have a physical game.

Something similar to Buddyfight's Gauge could work. It would have to have a keyword that means place the top card of your deck in your Gauge. I think this could work, but I'm afraid of decks running out too quickly. I'd have to make the deck minimum 60. It also wouldn't work well with Shields, so I'd have to use Life Points instead.

idk i kinda just want to do the second but the first seems easier

>>96301119
Month or two"

Distributors are crooks

>>96301395
protip, reverse engineer why you think
>"When a creature is destroyed gain 1 resource."
is a mechanic you want, what things support and subvert it, and then try your mana system from there
more often than not, desired gamefeel overrides mechanical complexity and vice versa

>>96301467
gd01 reprints are due later this month.

>>96301395
Zenonzard had a card type that could be played into your resource area, but could also later be summoned from there as monsters, though I forget if moving a summoned monster into your resource area was universal or restricted to that specific card type. Maybe do something like that but for when destroyed?

>>96301395
If I were to make a game, I would just copy of what Cardfight Vanguard did where you have a level up system.

Haven't been around here in a bit so forgive me if it's already been posted.
gato

Saw some Wixoss locals and went to try it out. Played against two trannies but weirdest shit happened where I went to check their cards and they grabbed and stroked my hand. I was like WTF, are all you Wixoss players freaks?
Got my ass out of the store after the match finished.

>>96301395
use BSS cores or L5R influence or have resources that are permanently consumed when spent or make it Duelma units as colored resources or make it FAB where resources only last one turn or make it like Ashes/Destiny where you have dice faces you're manipulating and spending

>>96302352
Thank you, anon. <3

>>96302503
Which one's house did you go to after you left the store?

>>96300356
>not even guaranteed to get a playset of the higher rarity cards in a case
Has this been confirmed? Not really that interested if that's their business model

>>96302729
There's 8 LRs per box, 12 LRs in the set. A playset would be 48 cards, that's at minimum six boxes. How many boxes per case? Six?

>>96302899
it's 12 boxes, dude.

>>96302573
The one who posts crack packs on here.

looks like the next round ashes spoilers started dropping.
really like this one. just gimme those infinite fucking fire archers.

>>96302899
>>96303207
Sounds good then. And I presume the first set is larger than normal? So future sets will also be within 1 case per full playset.

>>96302899
I just recalled. Isn't riftbound 3 of for a playset? So I think we can safely assume a case will yield a full playset with spare change.

Anyone got tips to improve my wing deck? I don´t have the good deathscythe so that´s not an option right now

I looked up the Gundam starter decks. Are they supposed to be $35 - $50? Was looking to get into the game but I've never payed more than $20 for a starter deck and even that's too much.

>>96303608
MSRP is 12 bucks.

>>96303499
post a fucking picture man not just a god damn literal card list

>>96301700
Universal between front and back minions, but only one move per turn.
Doing something like what you suggested but like EX resources (one use) would be interesting. Resource systems are boring if they lack any sort of flux.

>>96303499
>>96303618

>card is more useful to a meme hero than the one it is intended

Great job

>>96303249
this was in the last thread.
should be more tomorrow though.

>>96303932
Do you want to know what wasn't in last thread? A link to this thread.
Want to guess what wasn't in the thread before that?

Who's dick do I have so suck to get a god damn pilot searcher in Zeon/Neo-Zeon?

>>96303618
NTA but that's how we used to do things back on the pojo message boards. Feels weird to see someone complain about it. I guess I'm just getting old

>>96303851
Wasting a token slot for this shit is pretty annoying too.

>>96304081
Pretty sure it's just the usual shitposter

Gundam has that Flash timing thing from Battle Spirits.
How interactive are the games for set 1?

>>96304146
It exists but it's not that interactive at the moment as most decks can't really play off curve well and afford to leave energy up. That and most commands are just dogshit. This is the only card that really sees play for counter timing shenanigans.

>>96294392
>kano player dies to kano
What the fuck

Gundam is the perfect game and franchise for a product like pic related. They need to capitalize on this.

>>96305206
I don't know what this is.

>>96305231
PvE game mode for Lorcana 1 to 4 players have to beat Jafar. They made an Ursula one too.

>>96303612
What's the MSRP for a booster box?

>>96305459
120, 5 per booster.

>>96305206
>even moar-gonna has PVE before flawed and bogus

>>96304156
>most commands are just dogshit
Even close combat and battle of aces?

I would like to make a game for fun.

>>96303985
take it up with OP.
tell me about your favorite Ashes deck instead.

>>96305837
Make a boardgame before making a tcg. That way the inevitable finacial failure won't hurt your feelings too much.

>>96305837
You're not allowed, I won't let you.

>>96306049
Just like how you shutdown Dino Anon, Numbnuts?

>>96303985
>>96295305
So, just so we're clear, if I come to /tg/ and /acg/ is missing I should NOT make a new thread because I'm not able to add a link in the previous (now dead) thread.
That's how it should be done?

>>96306247
That guy wasn't making a game for fun, paddocks were a pure profit center.

>>96296565
only Catholics pray for the departed.

>>96301395
>When a creature is destroyed gain 1 resource
look up wixoss rules, its a core rule that destroyed units become resources.

>>96306357
The trick is to make a new thread before the current one dies. Difficult? Hardly. Even EBR guy could manage that, for as much shit as he gets. I rather have OPs for games I don't play than have to navigate the archives without hotlinks.

Honestly the last posters in the thread are fools. Thread straight up dies while people are meme bumping; those folks should be ashamed. Pop a flare if you see the ship going down, niggas!

>>96306495
I dn't want as a core rule. I want effects to be able give you resources. I just used destroy as an example.

>>96306614
I do believe you have the 'tism.

>>96306754
I got your tism right here! *grabs deck*

>>96306027
I am already a failure one more wont do me in. In my head its like a fist fight, no resources to play cards, every card used draws a card as well, running out of stamina (deck) or health loses you the game. No "turns" just a coin flip for first action and then everything is a back and forth. Ive never played a card game before my brother plays magic thats all im familiar with

>>96306919
Not beating the allegations.

>>96306925
Anon where do you think you are? Colorful shapes, rules, waifus, collecting, organizing; the joke is its a given for anyone posting here unironically.

>>96307473
>Colorful shapes
Like cats! Cat is a shape!

>>96308115
Cat is a liquid that spreads to fill any shape it occupies.

>>96306390
Dino anon's legend has grown like a fishing story.
the truth is he wasn't any of those things. he was just another "idea man" with a big ego who had no intention of putting in any of the actual work of making a game (he was hoping we'd do that for him).

>>96308453
Maybe his ideas were just too good for you.

>>96308453
>he was just another "idea man"
>just
Implying
>with a big ego
Assumption
>who had no intention of putting in any of the actual work of making a game
>(he was hoping we'd do that for him).
Not even true

Anyone know of a place where one could preorder a booster box of Riftbound for MSRP besides waiting for Riot's shop to replenish stock?

I am once again coming to the thread to discuss the abysmal state of Ranger, a class born from the second set ever of flesh and blood, but despite that have always been bottom tier innately due to their design (or lack there of). Well don't take my word for it, have a look at the whopping single player in classic constructed top level play. You go, lone ranger! I hope you'll love the new spec. Surely we won't have to wait long for some halfway decent ranger support... Right?

>>96308630
Just get the Chinese boxes. You're not ACTUALLY going to play this, are you?

>>96306614
>. Thread straight up dies while people are meme bumping;
Wym? Majority of the posts are just Gundam discussion

>>96308841
Why not? It looks fun and Riot has ironically said nothing that makes me think the game is gonna be poorly managed.

>>96308841
>Chinese boxes
As in chinese language official products or counterfeits? I'd love to see a full scale openable counterfeit booster launch from China that's not the official product. I haven't seen that since the early years of YuGiOh.

>>96308562
>t. very obviously wasn't in that thread

How expensive is it to get into Lorcana aisde from selling my soul to a heartless corporation?

>>96306495
>>96306660
that kind of thing can work as a core rule. summoner wars has it where you get a coin every time you kill an enemy unit, and then if you need extra for next turn you can also discard cards at end of turn for more (then draw back up). it's a pretty good system.
the need to kill units to play more units forces aggression and discourages just spamming out a bunch of roadblock chaff. getting coins by discard is easier, but there's tension between wanting to nova your hand and saving shit for discard or to play next turn. plus decks are small, running out of deck happens a lot, so you can't just infinitely convert cards. it's simple, but it's deep and good.

>>96309669
It, like SWU and One Piece, is one of the cheaper generations of modern tcgs. Most meta decks are $150-350.

>>96309735
I found a deck I kinda like for 60 bucks. this one specificallly: https://dreamborn.ink/decks/HUZuPry7iNq6tdRgT3V0

>>96309669
>>96309746
I'd caution you to wait a few more weeks until the new set is fully revealed so you don't end up buying anything that could get lost to the upcoming set rotation, but yeah, other than that, Lorcana is pretty cheap and fun.

>>96309770
I was actually also considering preordering the Fabled Starter with Powerline and seeing if I can upgrade it.

>>96309746
>>96309770
Though, looking at this one, the only card in danger here is Lawrence, since Captain Hook was reprinted in set 8. Even if he doesn't get reprinted, you could probably find a suitable replacement.

>>96309784
Who would you suggest replacing him with out of curiosity?

>>96309783
Could be fun... I'm definitely getting that starter, too, but I don't think I'll invest too much in Fabled, since it's mostly reprints. The set will be good for newcomers to the game, but I've been collecting since set 1, so it's kind of redundant for me aside from all the new Goofy Movie stuff.

>>96309791
Good question. I'm not sure, off the top of my head. I'll look into it.

I'm also considering this as I like the theme of the deck. https://dreamborn.ink/decks/bWXi6gIlSd5hEeZWkPE9

>>96309791
>>96309811
All right, just limiting my suggestions to steel characters from set 5 onward that are inkable and cost 3, you could try:
Bobby- Purple Pigeon, as he swings for as much damage as Lawrence, but doesn't lose it if he takes damage, and being a bodyguard, he might save one of your illusion creatures, which seems to be the real theme of the deck.
Raya - Guidance Seeker, doesn't hit as hard as Lawrence, but between the extra resistance and similar willpower and lore points, she could stick around for a while mining lore for you.
Fa Zhou - War Hero, could work too, if you find yourself challenging aggressively a lot, he could passively gain you a lot of lore since you're likely not too afraid of losing your illusion characters.
King Hubert - Philip's Father, doesn't do much, but swings almost as hard as Lawrence without losing power due to damage, but also doesn't gain as much lore.

Personally, of these I'd probably take Raya, since you can give her challenger with Hypnotic Strength if you really want to use her to challenge, but her main draw would be the lore gain.

Hope that gives you a few options!

>>96309910
Thanks.

Well, I've been filtered the fuck by Yugioh/Master Duel and I'm looking for a new card game. Unfortuantely Yugioh is the only card game I've played, and its apparently super different from every other card game because it was designed to be a shonen manga series first and a functioning fucking card game second, so I have no idea what I want to get into next.

I guess my preferences are:
>Has a "real" online client (I've tried stuff like EDOPro after giving up on Master Duel and its kind of a "join a discord and organise a match" kind of deal. It's either that or walk into someone trying out some bullshit cancer deck)
>Doesn't do rotations - I want to use the cards I like
>Ideally anime but not a hard requirement
>Ideally would let me experiment with decks or make decks easily

I don't mind spending a bit of money, just as long as its not super greedy or P2W or anything. The only hard requirement is the online client though. My local explicitly does not do card games. They sell them but they only let people do war games and tabletop roleplaying games inside, since that's apparently what the other hobbyists care about.

Apparently I'd need to drive like 2 hours to the next hobby shop that does do card games and like, fuck that. So I'm really looking for some kind of online card game in particular. I'd appreciate any suggestions if people have some.

>>96309906
It's an interesting theme, to be sure, (aggro plus musketeers? I like it) but this one looks like it will get absolutely wrecked by set rotation. I'd only get it if you plan to play more with friends than at tournaments, or if you think there will be a lit of Infinity Format tournaments near you. It's kinda risky.
>>96309912
No problem, hope you have fun with the game, no matter what deck you end up getting.

>>96309906
>>96309941
Oh, and just a little protip, when you're looking through these decks, keep an eye on the little number in the credits at the bottom left. This tells you the set number, and if you're seeing a lot of 1 to 4, you might want to wait until all the reprints from 9 are revealed, or find an alternative.

>>96309924
>real online client
As in like Hearthstone or MTGArena where you just click play and find a random match?
You might be at the wrong place to ask for this, since online tends to be dominated by digital card games, whereas physical ones get bootleg clients. Lorcana had one, and it got yeeted by DIsney. One Piece I heard has one as well, as well as Star Wars, but idk if it's auto match or find an opponent thing. Shadowverse Evolve was originally a digital card game and it got ported to physical. Flash and Blood probably has one as well, but I don't follow that game. If you can get over the fear of talking with people, nearly any card game exists over TableTopSimulator.
>Doesn't do rotations - I want to use the cards I like
Every game does rotations in one way or another, and then just has an extended format for all the cards that's left unchecked. One Piece does this by fixing cards to factions so they rotate your leader out by just not printing it new stuff.

>>96309924
>Has a "real" online client
MTGA it is. Much better game than yugioh as well, lucky you.

>>96310093
I see, is there a different thread for digital card games then? I didn't see any on /tg/. I guess /vg/ is my best bet? I might just go into different threads and ask about their games I guess.

>>96310106
>>96309924
Dragonball Super card game fits the bill. It's bandaislop but it's fine. You can buy booster codes from ebay or similar for like a dime per pack, though then you have to enter a billion codes manually.

>>96309924
Have you ever considered opening a card shop?

>>96309924
>>96310093
as the other anon said if by digital you mean you want fast/automatic pairings and limited human interaction, then you either want something like MTGA or a pure digital game like hearthstone or gwent.

most of the acg games that stick around for a while and aren't just a flash in the pan have web clients you can play on. like FaB has Tallishar, netrunner has jinteki, keyforge has thecrucible, GoT has ironthrone, ashes has ashteki, etc. but that's a fundamentally different experience. there's usually no auto pairing or queues so you actually have to join those communities, meet people, schedule games. sometimes you get a pickup game here and there but it's not reliable.

>no rotation
for starters, you're never going to get that in a commercial TCG unless it dies to young to implement rotation. not all games do it the same though. some rotate whole sets, some have an ever growing ban list or just continuous power creep.
If you don't want rotation at ALL, true eternal, your options are either one of the fans-kept-it-alive dedgames like L5R or a hybrid/LCG compromise like ashes. but anything you see played at the LGS is gonna have rotation (or die, which is like the whole game rotating).

>>96308732
Just wait until Orien.

>>96309924
Not wanting rotation in this day and age is just pure retardation. All games end up rotating whether they label it as such.
Modern horizon cards are overrepresented in a 'non-rotating' format and no old deck in yugioh is playable without new support cards.
We have enough examples to look at.
If you just want to play old cards and have no expectation of old decks being viable then why care if there's rotation. Play whatever joke/fan format on your kitchen table and continue having fun.
Demanding no rotation is basically holding back a game just so you can pretend your decks from 10 years ago are still relevant.

These cards look unhinged (good).

It's mad cause Bushiroad design some interesting games.

>>96312918
tldr me how did they manage to fuck up so bad

>>96303932
>>96303985
more ashes spoilers
>https://www.plaidhatgames.com/news/2025/08/13/the-end-of-argaia-preview-2/

pic related looks BUSTED jesus christ

>>96311318
>Not wanting rotation in this day and age is just pure retardation
lots try to get around it though. or lie. or die.

be interesting to see if the new ashes model works long term or implodes in a few years. basically rotating production/distribution method instead of card legality. even if it's fucking perfect though the Big 3 and other whale-milking games will never implement it. execs would have a heart attack if they heard the words "free cards".

For the Ashes players, are the delux decks just not in print anymore? I literally can't find them anywhere, even amazon (located in Europe). Seems strange to have the delux decks go out of print if you need them for the dice.

>>96305206
what was the first tcg to do this? think the wow dungeons came out in 2011 and the mtg challenge decks in 2013, with precursor one v all onyxia raid deck coming out in 2005 or 6

>>96313542
yeah that's what anon is alluding to
they're moving to a model where the current block goes from pre-order, moves to full print run for retail, then eventually "rotates out" of main stock to only being sold as PDFs and print-on-demand. so cards stay *legal* eternally, but stores don't carry them eternally. bscially their answer to the infinitely growing lcg expansion problem. as far as dice they said reissue in new starter decks and direct order, no deluxe boxes.

says on the KS they're doing one more big print run of everything for the kickstarter but it's probably print to demand SO if you want reborn shit in the retail printing you either have to find someone who still has stock, get on the kickstarter yourself in the next couple days or wait and pray
long term its probably cleaner but shit's chaos while the ks is wrapping up

>>96313589
WoWTCG did 10 or 12 of them. first couple were one vs everybody like onyxia but they made a bunch of true pve raids and dungeons with an auto deck too.

>>96313606
I'm not in the loop, are the moving into something like edition 3/ post reborn?

>>96313620
Man, I now remember the Onyxia raid. I think I still have the box of that somewhere... Only ever played it once.

>>96300114
i don't wish death on anyone, its just interesting when works remain incomplete. like the missing sections of the homeric cycle

>>96313625
not a new edition (still all back compatible and shit), but another "cycle" of expansions yeah
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/plaidhatgames/ashes-ascendancy
late pledge ends this week I think for anyone cares

new core box with 2 phoenixborns in new colors (not really needed but w/e) with a pve enemy. and then every new box after will be mix of new and old colors with the dice reissued for that pairing and another pve campaign.
picrel is new player cards from the starter from a couple threads ago.

>>96313665
man, so when's the planned retail release? I'm not in a position to do kickstarter preorders as I don't even know which country/city i'll be living in in a few months. Guess I should just check out until them

>>96313728
late fall / winter I think. ks said they were going in like october or november.

other FB07 SCR leaked

>>96313977
why do i feel like that;s going to show up on like turn 4/5?

Going to my first One Piece local today.
I've played with my deck a bit on the sim so hoping for the best.

>>96314025
Because it's absolutely going to.
That's like the deck's entire purpose, get 7 dragon balls in the drop ASAP, flip over and play out the SCR.

>>96294063 (OP)
With Lorcana Fabled basically being done, and no Be Prepared, is control dead now?

>>96314111
At least it's an altwincon, and surprisingly flavorful one to boot.

>>96314265
Maybe. Blurple can tap and kill, or throw stuff into ink, well enough to take a shot at stepping into that hole. Red with recurring pirates life can also out value aggro, maybe.

But generally with such limited removal reprinted, yeah, it's gonna be aggro's world, I think.

>>96314111
If the official deck name isn't Goku's Balls Dropped, we riot

I've been playing MTG since 2002, convince me to play a different card game.

>>96314332
come play gundam or swu

>>96314332
before everybody shouts their game at you with no context, what do you like about magic? what don't you like? what aspects are must-haves for you? do you want another TCG or are you burned out on the chase

there's a lot of great card games and no one size fits all

>>96314332
in the current year you shouldn't need convincing to drop MTG, unless you're the target audience of funkopops.
As for suggestions, you need to be clearer on what you want.

>>96314373
>in the current year you shouldn't need convincing to drop MTG
tbf that was also true in 2002

>>96314373
>funkopops
I dislike this comparison because it's both reductive and pretty much not really true
>>96314351
So I like Magic for the elements of interaction and combat, I get bored of "i win" combos and cards that the moment someone plays it there's nothing anyone can do if they don't have it RIGHT THEN and the match ends. I prefer the 1v1 playstyle to things like Commander but 1v1 formats in MTG have been aids for years.
I'm definitely burned out, and I also like resource management so I've always liked lands and ramp.

>>96314393
Ah, so you are the target demographic.

Stick with magic. If you're a dung beetle, no point in looking for anything else, yknow?

>>96314419
You have a mental illness, please do not reply to me again.

I truly believe aggro players deserve to die.

>>96314393
>pretty much not really true
with the secret layer and universe beyond shit? I can't think of a more apt comparison.
>So I like Magic for the elements of interaction and combat
So, there are technically a lot of fixedMTG style /acg/s, with various degrees of popularity. Before getting into anything specific you should probably check what's being played at your LGS, as there probably isn't a lot of point getting into card games you don't have anyone to play with.
From the top of my head there's Lorcana and Shadowverse Evolve that are fairly popular and straightforward to transition from MTG. In Lorcana (almost) any card can be placed as a land instead of having dedicated land cards which fixes flooding/whiffing. In Shadowverse you just get 1 additional mana automatically every turn (like Hearthstone). Shadowverse is probably more similar MTG with it's types and interactions as well, but with quite a bit of it's own tricks. One Piece also has automatic lands every turn, but with the caveat that every land can be used not just for casting but also for buffing (like giving your creature +1/+1), and instead of life points, you have life cards which you draw/play when you take damage. There's also Force of Will, but I believe it might be somewhat dead now.
There are also other vastly different card games in how they play, from FaB where it's about knowing which cards to use for defending, for resources and for playing, with every card being more like a sorcery (attack move) with basically no creatures.
There's Wixoss which uses levels and the graveyard for resources, while fighting in 3 lanes.
In Ashes Reborn you roll 10 dice every turn and then distribute those for actions you want to do every turn.
In Keyforge you have no resources but have to choose only 1 colour every turn which you can cast/activate
etc etc etc

>>96314424
Correct. If you don't enjoy playing the game, just don't play it. I don't get any satisfaction from being a premature ejaculator that finishes after 1min. I came to play the game.

>>96314424
We keep the meta sane for the rest of you. We're doing a service.

this is like the dream board

>>96314393
Oh yeah, I guess more honorable mentions got to Sorcery TCG, where you pplay on a 4x5 grid, and you don't just use lands as lands, but also to fill in the grid and determine where and how you can move while fighting the opponent.
the League of Legends TCG Riftbound is coming up where you don't just play lands, you sacrifice them as well, keeping them constantly rotating in from the land deck, and then you do combat within several battlefields with your units and spells.
Grand Archive uses your hand as the resource system in two ways (you exile them to cast something, and can then later remove them from the game to cast more stuff, or they go back to your hand at the start of the next turn), otherwise it plays a lot like MTG
A lot of the other Bandai games play very similiarly to One Piece (Digimon, DBZ, Gundam, Battlespirit Saga).
Netrunner is a very asymetricall game where one guy plays the corop and the other the net runners, so one deck builds up defenses and traps, while the other seeks steal stuff and sabotage the opponent by attacking different servers
Weiss Schwarz I'm not a fan off, but it seems to be popular, you have your lanes and level up your animu characters and then they fight.
Universus is kinda like Flash and Blood but with lands.
I'm a real fan of the Final Fantasy TCG as well, as it combines severl approachs to the land.mana system, where any card can be discarded for 2 mana, while also having "backrow" monsters which can be tapped for mana, but you need mana to cast them, so there's trading going on where you have to choose do you want to drop big stuff quickly and lose your hand or commit to gaining resources steadily.
Legend of the 5 Rings requires 190 IQ to play as even the draw phase is a whole Keikaku Dori master planning where you can get screwed over and lose the game by your opponent outwitting you.

>>96314497
>Marida+Banshee, clear both Kshatriya and Sinanju
nothing personal kid

Look I watched like 2 episodes of the anime these things did not look this cool. They were goofy as fuck, actually.

>>96309924
Roguelite deck builders. Slay the spire and Erranorth.

>>96314470
Same could be said of control players - if you don't want anyone to play the game, why bother?

t. Enjoys aggro but hates finishing a round in 10 minutes

Control and aggro players are both cucks.
Midrange players are the real chads.

>>96314849
>just play pushed cards
Yawn.

Everyone who plays any deck in any game is a faggot.

>>96314836
>if you don't want anyone to play the game
what do you mean? I want to play the game myself, your playment is an ephemeral factor.

>>96314595
This anon is a fed

>>96314595
That's because the original anime had a very limited budget. With all the merchandising, they can make better art, especially for -
>>96315018
He's a fucking feddie? Never mind then. SIEG ZEON.

Gundam is a tier A anime, as Mecha falls behind Journey to the West but above Monster Collection and Kids with Powers genre anime.

Bandai slop is still laziest design imaginable. The game could be any other theme with a simple art/name swap.

>>96314108
Went 0-3 as expected but was pretty fun.
Planning to go again next week.

>>96314393
if you want something that's thematically like magic but more interactive, the game Ashes anons up above were discussing is pretty good. still a wizard battle but much more tuned toward 1v1, tons of tactical back and forth, low RNG + skill heavy. one of those games where at the end you always know the exact point where you fucked up and lost.
other anons already mentioned Sorcery and Summoner Wars. and there's also Gudnak now. those are all mtg-adjacent but played with cards moving around a grid and only able to attack things next to them. pretty cool, adds a positional aspect to make it more strategic.

million options. going other directions, you've got flesh and blood which is a fighting game with a lot of micro-economy decisions. netrunner is something way different with players being hackers and corporations in a cyberpunk hell world, but it will really bend your brain. star wars unlimited and lorcana are both solid games if you've got a hard-on for disney shit. keyforge is by the same designer as mtg and it's his idea of a faster, lighter version where you don't deckbuild you just play what you open. and there's always some new shit from bandai - this week it's one piece and gundam.

>>96297620
doesn't that game have official print and play or something? I kinda overheard it somewhere and would like to know if that's a confirmed fact or not.

I know pic is unrelated, but the game it's from is now in the whole print-n-play thing.

>>96314595
kys. MSG, Zeta, CCA, 0080, Turn A are all kino.

>>96314595
The original anime is probably older than your parents, the plot is still good but the animation is a bit dated

>>96314331
I giggled.

>>96315090
>The game could be any other theme with a simple art/name swap.

This is like every tcg/board game ever man.

>>96315347
Imagine: an asymmetrical game where one player is trying to kidnap children from a kindergarten and the other is a spunky group of misfits trying to stop them by setting up barricades and traps until the adults arrive

>draw no pilots
>lose
>hand gets flooded with pilots
>lose
I'm starting to think this Gundam game might be dogshit.

>>96315389
it's just like mtg!

>>96315389
>>96315411
Is it even good to design a game where this isn't possible? Even Lorcana's inkwell stuff you can get an uninkable hand

>>96315389
skill issue

>>96315558
With Lorcana's generous mulligan rules, if you still end up with a hand full of uninkables, then at that point it becomes clear that you screwed up while deckbuilding.

>>96315558
I mean, yes? If you can design your game to avoid non-games, that is better.
In Lorcana you technically can include just inkables for instance and never get fully whiffed.
in games like SWU you can literally add anything into ink.
And in plenty of ones, you just get auto mana from a side mana deck.

>>96315379
Yes plz.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DFVTPFKS/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A2AQR68PRYNHG3&psc=1
How stupid would it be to order this? I accept that most of it's probably rotating out but I'd have it in two days.

>>96315729
Really stupid. You do know this is like $20 of cards max? You are probably like me and hate ordering singles because it takes forever to build the fucking deck but it's worth the savings.
If you absolutely must do it though and will enjoy playing this all the time, who am I to stop you? It's your money.

>>96303699
Way too many commands, drop all the simultaneous fire for starters. Useless for you, just run more breach. Playsets of shenlong and heavy arms. Drop the academy base, replace with mining asteroid. You already have path for searching. The school isnt doing anything for you

>>96315729
It's fine if you're just playing Infinity Format or homebrew games, but I'm sure you can get it for cheaper. Broom decks are fun, but not super competitive.

>>96316003
Not asteroid whatever the 6hp green base is

>>96316012
I plan on building a more competitive deck once rotation hits. RIght now I just want to get games in and learn.

>>96316019
Well, buying that deck would be fine for learning how to play, I just think you can build it for a lot less $$.

>>96316046
Probably, half the reason I'm interested in this is that it's convenient and I kinda want somehting of my own to bring to locals while I wait for my other deck to get built over time.

riftbound won't die like fab, lorcana, and sorcery right?

>>96315558
it's desirable, just hard to design. and some publishers see it as good because it makes for some games where new players have a chance to just randomly luck in to a win so they don't get frustrated and quit.
if you don't want it, doing duelmaster lands or separate resources (rocks deck, credit pool, etc) and a mulligan does a lot. it's still theoretically possible to get a bricked hand but it's very, very rare. if you don't want it *at all*, you need to do something like ashes where the starting hand is non-random. but that dramatically changes how a game plays.

>>96317047
>>96315633
>>96315558
Pilots in Gundam aren't mana, they're upgrades.

>>96317013
Riftbound will slowly erode, only persisting because of Riot money.

>>96315389
>entire game won or lost just based on who lucks out and gets the most bursts in shield
i think using the OP mechanic of just adding shields to hand might have been a better
game at the very least needs some units that burst to hand

>>96317013
Lorcana's not dead yet! Though, Fabled could be the breaking point if rotation and reprinting destroys interest. Alternately, it could even reinvigorate the game.

>>96317126
>>96317092
also needs to be said, bandai is one of the companies that sees this kind of thing as a feature not a bug. their business is mostly casual players and whales, burning the hype rocket as fast and hard as possible, and milking the IP license for everything it's worth before they need to renew it. ease/speed of play and a higher level of randomness are good for them.

>>96317126
The game just needs a small amount of filtering, not more card draw.

>>96317202
what's OPs draw system?

>>96317219
In OP your shield cards all go to hand, Gundam's mostly don't.

>>96317202
game was doomed the second they decided filtering and card draw should be color identities
every deck for the rest of time will be part blue or part white

>>96317291
That is, fortunately, just factually incorrect.
In green:
>Set 2 card Gundam AGE (filtering)
>Path to Victory or Defeat (tutor)
>Char's Gelgoog (play from trash)
>Char's Zaku II (tutor)
>Dopp (scry)

In red:
>Duel Gundam (tutor)
>Yzak (draw)
>Dearka (filtering)
>Zaku I Sniper (tutor)
>Miguel's Ginn (draw)

That's not to mention that every base draws a shield on play. The problem with most of these cards is being too weak or part of an archetype that's too weak, but that's not a deliberate choice to exclude colors from having cards.

>>96314526
Universus is a dead game but when he says
>i like elements of interaction and combat
it def potentially can fit the bill, combo is also almost entirely nonexistent but the odds of there being a local scene seem really really low.
Also if combat means I like playing dudes and swinging dudes into each other that would mean its a terrible fit.
KF is a bad fit for someone who thinks MTG is good but is just burned out since doing away with decks and mana won't seem like the great ideas they were
the absolute correct answer for someone who is saying MTG is not funkopops and is valid in 2025 is Riftbound. This guy sounds like he tried Yugioh (probably the #2 most popular game at his store) and didn't like it.
RB is going to be hype/big on release, you can play it online rn to try it. it has creature combat ala mtg and instants are the most powerful thing in the game imo (interaction).

>>96315347
No, just those without flavor: a connection between the theme and mechanics of a component. You can turn a 2/2 for 1 cost into literally anything, but something like picrel directly ties into the character and a sequence of events in the associated property.

Yes, any game can throw random names and mechanics together - Bandai has proven just that - but that's what makes it slop.

>>96317099
Maybe. There's a solid base game there, a solid structure for OP, and support for LGSs to incentivize hosting. All depends on how the cards come out.

I hate the first person templating, personally, but it's not like anyone reads cards once you "know" them.

I don't think Lorcana is dead. There's still huge events in my area for it and I live in the middle of nowhere.

>>96314332
If you can't come up with at least 3 reasons to drop magic on your own, you're probably better off being contained in that game's community.

>>96315090
>>96317407
it's the very first set. i get why bandai wants to play it safe with its effects but there's flavor if you know gundam. kshatriya has these funnel cannons you can see in the card art which act as long-range weapons for it. if you were to make a simple effect for kshatriya, it would make sense for it to be a ping on up to 2 units for 1 damage each

>>96317013
Fab is very much too ubiquitous to be even close to dying. Everyone here celebrates its demise and yet they just keep on growing internationally.

I remember everyone gassing up striker pack, but now that card doesn’t even see play. What gives?

>>96317796
no reason to play it when you have zowort and lfrith in the game.

>>96317812
Is it worth running if I don’t have any lfriths? Or is launcher strike better?

>>96317407
you have 0 imagination

>>96309651
You guys sure do like to spread false narrative here. Dude was a Renaissance man looking for legitimate game discussion and everyone else wasn't willing to have that talk. So he admitted he was fed up with thread infighting and general board divisiveness and flew the coop. He was convinced there were no unbound creativity left on /tg/, only corpo dick riding and tribal flame wars. He was right, this board use to mean significantly more than what remains of it today. We're posting on the back of a dead titan, one who use to stand proud as the last board you ever needed. Enjoy your hatemongering and fomo hype trains leading you deeper into the hollowed out bowels of this deceased demigod, because that's all that remains of our golden age.

In before you fags are too new to know what I'm referring to at all when I say this. I'd feel sorry for you but ignorance most certainly is bliss.

>>96317928
you're gonna have to go dig some evidence up out of one of the archive sites if you want to sell a line like that.

the Dino Anon we saw here sounded like a marketing student. kept talking about how he was going to package and sell shit and make bank. when people put him on the spot he couldn't provide any details of gameplay, at all, nevermind something testable. it quickly became obvious he'd done zero work on it at all beyond Have An Idea. and when people called him out on that, he got pissy and fucked off.
I've been on tg long enough to know the difference between a creative and a leech.

>>96317796
You should play it anyway.

>>96318059
I know the post that I want to link here to support my statement, but navigating the archives to find it will take some time and I'm posting inbetween daily affairs.

>sounded like a marketing student.
>I've been on tg long enough to know the difference between a creative and a leech.
I'll throw your own demand for proof back at you. These are merely feelings and impressions you had, you couldn't possibly know these to be true based on a couple of posts. Case in point, neysayers call any ounce of effort posting here 'shilling' instead of what it really is, passion for something one loves. That's the true weakness of this place, you see shills everywhere, regardless of truth. This has enabled folks that default to this line of thinking to disregard posts they don't personally jive with as 'capitalistic melding.' This is a convenient excuse to dispell that which you deny moments of unfettered comprehension.

Also I looked and saw no refutal that nu/tg/ is really that ass. I will accept your concession on that specific point.

>>96317334
The biggest complaints I see about Gundam are the lack of consistency in decks. Sometimes you just brick. If it were 2-3 years into the game, sure, shit game. But there's fewer than 200 cards in the game. The fact that theres no tier 0 and 4 or so decks putting up wins is a great foundation.

Things will get powercrept and decks will get very consistent later, I'm sure. For now though, I'm enjoying being able to play these vanilla cards before we get walls of text and a huge meta learning curve.

Shill Anon here

https://www.ofcreaturesandrealms.com/

A game where you have THREE decks to play with!

>>96318382
>Roll 1d6 and add the result to the base HP. This is your Realm's total life.
>When attacking a creature weak to your affinity, the defending player rolls the die specified on their card. The result is added to the total damage received.
Dropped. Why would you want to relay on fucking dice RNG for critical stuff like damage and starting life total? It could make a fucking world of difference if you leave something with 1 hp or are able to kill it this turn. I don't know how many people will have fun with "I lost the dice roll, guess I lose the game". And if the dice rolls aren't capable of having a large enough influence, why even have it in the game?

>>96318219
>I looked and saw no refutal that nu/tg/ is really that ass
I'm not sure what your point is here. acg itself is a very young general. there are election tourists who were around to see the birth of this thread. the vaunted "creativity" of /tg/ was already a distant memory at that point. and dino anon definitely wasn't part of it. if he'd had some spark of original thought, it would have come through over the course of his many posts.

>>96318744
>and dino anon definitely wasn't part of it.
Here we go with unprovable claims again. How are you so omniscient?

>>96318764
>>96318744
How about you faggots talk about games?

ill never understand the need some channer fags to pretend like thread history or culture is a real thing or matters
want thread good? post good posts
want thread bad? post callouts, tribal flamewars, shitposts, complaints, add nothing of value just tear down all other posts
simple as across all threads on all boards

Ple card when

>>96319066
bro?

>>96319066
in GD03 when they do ZZ

>>96319181
So I tweeked some stuff and came up with this for an Illusion deck for Lorcana. Does it look good? https://dreamborn.ink/decks/JaGVB4PH0xgx9nKLZmfw

Got into Gundam as my first TCG.
How can I git gud and learn how to construct decks? Have only been able to get my hands on a starter deck and 4 boosters (only shop that can keep them in stock near me sells for $10 each). Wingtable is really cool but just feels like im playing an expert player at all times and it's hard to get a game going on tabletop sim.

>>96318898
We're discussing how the greatest game never made got laughed off the stage by oracles that know better.

>>96319514
Look at what decks are winning events and learn from them.

>Day 84
>We docked on Isla Nublar just before dawn.
>According to the brochure, we were to be met by a charming, portly fellow as a tasteful score by John Williams reached a crescendo.
>After a long voyage across time and space, we were instead met by a rather manic lad who gesticulated wildly about a fever dream he had.
>One thing had become abundantly clear:
>There were no deluxe paddocks.

>>96319533
no person who was actually gonna make a game would be stopped by a bunch of doubtful bitches on an anonymous image board

Even with a great hand aggro can just get completely cucked in Gundam. Bandai can't balance actual archetypes I don't think. They should stick to the OP/Fusion formula where everything is midrange slop.

>>96319800
the meta's circular right now. bw control, gw wing, rb newtypes, and gb oyw rush all can win a tournament. i don't think a bandai game released with a meta this solid.

>>96319800
>one set in to a brand new game
>archetypes aren't perfectly balanced

>>96319868
Bandai have made a point of avoiding actual archetypes in their games and just having leader-based stuff where everybody plays the same. I'm dubious they can pull it off.

>>96319895
>Bandai have made a point of avoiding actual archetypes in their games
this

you'd think they would flesh out the old strategies with new cards but they just move on quickly to completely new strategies. What you get is half baked set poured over halfbaked set to make a potpie of non synergistic cards.

>>96319753
Yeah that's what I tell myself too. So out there somewhere is a working dino romp prototype waiting for polish to move to crowd funding.

Gundam is my first Bandai game. Does Bandai do mechanically unique promos? Like, the only way to get a certain card is going to/winning an event or shell out a shitload on the secondary market. Also, have they ever revised basic rules of the game? Like mulligan, draw on first turn, opening hand size, etc.

>>96319966
>>96319895
But they didn't go for leaders and Gundam is nowhere near as archetypical as their other games were (even looking at just the initial set).

>>96320037
Yes and it's ass.

The top deck in OP right now is $10 of bulk and $100 of a promo that Japan got basically for free but America had to get by buying a limited-run card binder.

>>96320037
yeah unique promo cards are a thing in other bandai games but so far gundam has none. every event promo card so far (starter deck release and booster release) have been alt art promos (kira/strike gundam and banagher/lvl. 5 unicorn).

>>96320099
By archetypes I mean decks actually playing different. In Gundam you can actually apply the typical Aggro-Midrange-Control formula unlike OP or Fusion World. This means that instead of printing cards to work with X-leader and giving it a 4 drop with 6k power and no shield and a good effect (every colour will get this) you have to print cards that can be used with every other card. You have to print cards that work in an environment where a player can play a bunch of 1 drops and actually be a threat. Completely different to their other games where you're not going to die on turn 3 because it's functionally impossible.

>>96319314
It doesn't look bad, but I notice a lot more cards from set 1-4. I'm assuming you're the same guy who just wanted a deck to learn with while waiting for set 9? If so, I don't mean to be a broken record, but it might not be worth it to grab a playset of Strength of a Raging Fire, if it turns out not to be a reprint. Great card, but kinda expensive if you're not planning on using it in tournaments.

>>96320099
Does that mean the top deck is $110 total? Because that's still better than Magic's bullshit.

guys maybe it's a bit of a stretch but when using last_frame to do a second part of a video, is it possible for the next segment to have some memory or consistency?

>>96320494
jannies delete this post please, it is clearly a hidden code to get gatomon to do suggestive poses

>>96320415
I checked and it's being reprinted. I don't think I have any cards in it that aren't being reprinted. Atleast I checked it when I put it together and didn't notice anything.

>>96320479
Yes, it's still a very cheap deck.

There have been more extreme cases in the past of must-have $40+ promo cards but OP is cheap overall, especially compared to any Magic format anyone actually plays.

What's a good card game I can proxy entirely? By that I mean no tcgs. I proxied null signal's netrunner but the fucking retarded trannies b& me for saying chink in glc so fuck them, I'm thinking of proxying the actual ffg releases now

So, I was cleaning up stuff and found that I have a copy of the Digimon ST 7 and 8. Is there anything good I can do with these, or have they been powercrept out of playability by now?

>>96320596
Oh yeah? Well, I'd say it's not too bad, then. It's too bad that Merlin - Shapeshifter isn't being reprinted. It would have worked pretty well in that deck, what with all the illusions going back into your hand.

Jelly gundamfags?

>>96321028
Wing? I sleep.

>>96320961
Besides the Memory Boosts that come as a bonus, 99% of the decks are useless. Guilmon, Growlmon and Gaia Force; Veemon and Hammer Spark would be still be playable.

>>96321155
That's kinda what I figured. How decent are the current starters decks you can grab if you wanna get into the game? ST 20/21?

>>96318992
cry more FABGOT

>>96321196
Getting one of each ST20/21 is a decent deck for the Adventure archetype. Need to upgrade by picking up Tai from BT21 and some extra copies from the starters for ratios.

>>96317644
FaB will have a 15 or 20 year run and niggas will STILL turn around and say
>"See? It couldn't even get past [years at death] years! DoA! It was obviously SO OVER from the beginning! So glad I didn't touch that shit. I knew it wasn't worth it back in 2020. This just proves it was a scam all along!"

>>96319966
>>96319895
>>96320099
Digimon is archetypal

>>96321298
I mean they say that about L5R now. and that was running since like 1995. so you're probably right.

>>96321298
>>96321446
Polite reminder that 20 years is a third or more of a fa/tg/uy's life. And something like a quarter of the life of everyone else.

is there a tcg based on tarot cards?

>>96314393
>>96314332
I'm gonna second that other anon and say Ashes. that game was a breath of fresh air coming from mtg. I only play the 1v1 but the solo/co-op mode is there for people who want it. it's ok to test decks with.
I'll give you one collecting reason and three gameplay reasons:

>LCG style so no chase
such a big deal. get so sick of chase rares in magic, year after year. it's an older game now so you can spend real money, but like $500 or $600 will still get you full playsets of everything in the entire game. and they're doing the POD / home print thing so you can order custom decks printed or just proxy. easy as it gets.

>no screw, no flood, practically no fuck-you variance at all
your mana pool is outside the deck (it's tracked with dice) and you choose your starting hand based on your opponent. makes for really tense strategy right from turn one since you're mindgaming to counter him and he's doing the same. you still have some variance from the rest of the deck and the mana dice rolls, but there's a lot of mechanics to hedge around it.

>no easy combo out, control locks or other uninteractive bullshit
instead of turns, the structure is a round where you trade actions one at a time. there are combos but there's never a way to just do 15 things in a row. you have to be sly about it because your opponent always gets the chance to step in and fuck with your setup.

>consistent mana pool is good for deckbuilding
not having to worry about the curve is very freeing. you have all your colors available from turn one, so you can make decks that do really intricate shit. they're always exactly 30 cards, so every spot is precious. and because the decks are small and there's a lot of easy draw, you can usually find your 1-ofs if you really have to. some of the best deck brewing I've ever seen in a game.

>>96320944
The old Score/Panini dbz game. Full of flavor, very fun, and all the cards are available in high quality online.

Just got the Seed Strike deck. How are people sleeving these bad boys up? Different colored sleeves each for the main deck, resources, and tokens?

>>96321672
I don't even sleeve my tokens but I'm pretty sure it's in the rule book that your resource deck has to have different sleeves than your main deck.

>>96321629
>available in high quality
Where?

>>96321517
>is there a tcg based on tarot cards?
Yeah, it's called Kingdom Death Monster, the greatest tit collecting game ever.

>>96321879
HOLY

>>96321730
FanZ website or their d*scord. Other places probably. Google it, you can find the site.

>>96321879
What the fuck am I reading?

>>96321879
Poots is allegedly working on a KDM deck builder btw.

>>96317407
>Keywords=flavor
Bro you aren’t raising the bar that high. You can flavor that as a wizard syphoning magic to cast a spell for free.

>>96322325
I saw the interview where he mentions he wishes he already launched what little he had because it was playable and he could've helped it grow all these years alongside the boardgame, but now he admits he wants to finish the kickstarter backlog first then give it a serious effort

Worst timeline, because it'll be 5 years until he's done.

>>96315379
Dead by Day Light.

>>96322292
Ask here >>96270418

>>96322351
It is a shame. He's obviously too much of a perfectionist. CoD is clearly ready and yet it will be another year before we see any of it. The art and lore are great and I trust him as a designer. I'm okay with the timeline because I've gotten so much gaming and painting time out of KDM the last decade.

Shield triggers are going to make me quick Gundam, cancer ass mechanic.

>>96322716
that's a core jp tcg mechanic. anything that's remotely in the vein of duel masters will have that.

>>96322831
Neither Dragon Ball game has it.

Went to my 2nd ever OP local today, went 2-2 with Reiju fighting
>Y Kid: won
>GY Law: lost
>UY Nami: lost
>BY Luffy: won
Honestly pretty happy with this result since in my previous one yesterday I got completely ran over 0-4.

Is Gundam not cannibalizing One Piece?

>>96323177
Who cares?

>>96323218
I care because I think the One Piece TCG sucks cocks and I would like it to die.

>>96323224
And your thoughts on gundam? Bandai tcgs are carried by their ip alone.

>>96323177
There's a little crossover where I am but it's like 3 people, gundam gets ~12 a week so far and One Piece has been 30-40 since OP02

Do any good decks run this or should I just sell it?

>>96323354
You should send it to me.

>>96323354
There's variants of the W/x blocker decks that run Ariel

Are unicorn and banana worth running without destroy mode?

>>96323354
Why does this robot look feminine?

>>96323454
It's a lesbian robot

>>96323354
Could a red white option focused deck with 4 of these and damage spells like close combat and battle of aces work? alonside the michaelis that gets bigger and the aerial that gets cheaper with 4+ options in trash?

>>96323467
Only one way to find out.

>>96323238
>Bandai tcgs are carried by their ip alone.
And yet without a lick of irony people flock to 'play' them

>>96323541
I'm only playing Gundam because it's Gundam. I was surprised to enjoy the actual gameplay as much as I do.

why is no one running Tallgeese? It seems really strong

>>96323564
An anon said like a hundred posts back that the game could be stripped of its theme and still be 90% of the way towards being compatible with anything else. What about it do you specifically like, from a Gundam fan's perspective?

>>96323574
Because it's not really strong.

>>96323588
Can you elaborate on why? Double swinging is pretty good

>>96323564
>>96323577
Not him but yeah its basically just hearthstone with 0 effects or flavor

It's barely gundam. but One Piece is also barely One Piece.

>>96323608
>It's barely gundam. but One Piece is also barely One Piece.
That's what immediately turned me off from it when JP released their first example of play video. I like simulationist games, a lot, but Bandai games are anti-simulation. It's mockery.

>>96323603
Because it doesn't do anything. Shields only have one life so double swinging into shields with big swings like Tallgeese has is way less resource efficient than doing it with a couple 1c weenies. The 4 cost for the restand is also just really expensive. You're basically taking two entire turns just so Tallgeese can swing twice and kill two things but it's also going to die doing it. Sure you replaced the Tallgeese and Zechs but you also have no board to follow it up after. It's also just really slow and does nothing against these gay ass aggro decks that vomit out 6 1c/2c cards by turn 3 like R/U and U/B.

>>96323622
theres a UW aggro list?

>>96323633
I don't think so. White isn't an aggro color it's like literally all blockers.

>>96323668
oh, I misread U/B as U/W

>>96323705
Oh I mistyped anyway I meant U/G, wups.

>>96323633
>>96323668
GD1 aerial is kind of aggressive, being able to be played for 1

>>96323608
Point on the doll where bandai touched you

>>96323177
No...
Wtf made you think that lol

The other Gundam game is way better than the Bandai Slop, holly shit, played a few games and it is a shame that bandai didn't made a clone of it (instead of making mtg but not mtg number 48)

More flavor with mission objective cards.
Better resource system.
Cooler.

>>96323991
The picture you posted is from M.S. War, and that game is unfortunately awful. I played it heavily at launch just because it was Gundam, but it's shit. The game released later (Gundam War) is far superior.

>>96324257
Has anyone ever played this game in person with other people before?

where can I find wakfu tcg data base? I can't find

>>96323354
certified horde card
its Bandai, they will print some overturned command thats worth spamming eventually. then suddenly that card is worth triple as everyone tries to chase the meta

>>96323577
Units do the things you would expect them to do. Char keeps coming back from the dead, Kshatriya's funnels do spread damage, Zeon swarms the board with Zakus but runs out of steam as time goes on, Gundam buffs its allies, Angelo plays support, etc. The pilot mechanics also feel pretty good, compared to OP or Magic they make upgrades very central to deckbuilding and gameplay and it evokes that very Gundam scene where major character in a mobile suit blitzes out of dock and does some bullshit, while also being able to have one pilot in multiple suits over the course of a game which is much like the shows.

But mostly it's just a fun game with cool robots on the cards.

>>96323404
no, destroy is the whole point

>>96323177
I mean probably to some extent. OP is so big that I don't expect it to matter.

>>96321672
Clear sleeves for tokens, art sleeves for resources, regular matte for deck.

>>96323354
Right now there aren't any commands worth digging out of your trash at the cost of being your entire 6 resource turns effect. It doesn't even work with Witch and the Bride for tempo because Suletta will only stand 1 resource back up but that costs 2, so it won't even matter until the next turn.

>>96324954
Overflowing Affection

>>96324954
>Units do the things you would expect them to do.
i agree on all fronts except blocker
thats just a keyword you get at random for being white to make you a good card, it doesn't seem to tie into any defining trait of the mobile suit or pilot like every other keyword

>>96324954
>Units do the things you would expect them to do.
idk, Wing doesn't keep self destructing.

Where can I get a box of Newtype Rising for MSRP?

>>96325384
it does blow up everything else (including your own units) when it deploys, though

>>96324212
>and that game is unfortunately awful.
To see, even a game that only got good with the last set and rules is way better than the usual modern Bandai Slop. Also Gundam War is basically non existent in english, you are luck to have bought cards before the mememic.

>>96327017
In the past.

Does Gundam have more depth than One Piece or roughly the same?

>>96327896
similar, deckbuilding is more open

>>96327896
There are fewer than 200 cards in the game.

>>96327017
Honestly just wait

All the cards in set 1 suck ass, and by set 3 we wont be using any of them. And it's not like you're missing out on some insane meta gameplay, it just sucks ass right now.

>>96327422
That's Wing Zero though, not Wing.

>>96328188
Yeah the gameplay right now is leaving a ton to be desired. Burst effects are just ruinous along with playing go fish with pilots.

You can tell Gundam brought a bunch of people who have never played TCGs before because of all the posts complaining about Burst effects.

Sorry you are too brain dead to think about the potential bursts and fail to order your attacks better and getting mad because you hit a base or a Battle of Aces or a pilot they needed next turn

Of the valid criticisms of Gundam, it having burst effects (which are not new or unique to this game) is not one of them.

>>96328606
Yeah you're right we need more luck in TCGs. Some players should just get extra cards or units from pure chance that's what I call fun.

>>96328631
It's called gambling bud, and gambling is based, embrace the lean

>>96328606
>>96328631
>>96328644
Riftbound is going to do the same I feel, except their first set is fucking crazy

>>96327510
>Also Gundam War is basically non existent in english
Correct. It's wild.
>you are luck to have bought cards before the mememic.
They were impossible to find even before the pandemic. I've been playing since the English launch in 2005, and the game just never took off. I really wish we had gotten more than three sets.

I have a theory that the only "tutor" in Gundam exists because Japanese game devs expected people to only run 1-2 of each of the Wing boys and suits. Predict we'll see the same kind of card for Celestial Being or Shuffle Alliance traits later.