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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What are some of your favorite combo line that you like to include in your deck, doesn't have to be infinite?

>>96294762 (OP)
Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bond goes in every black deck after I discovered it.

>>96294764
all right you aren't a retard nice

>>96294655
When you *really* want a heap of damage to finish the game, you can attach the aura to the Stormsinger. It'll hit first because it has First Strike, and trigger. You can then move the aura to one of the myriad-clone Enforcers to get another trigger when they deal normal strike damage, then get a second trigger, then move the aura to the original Enforcer. You can easily get some staggering combat chainings with that.

>TQ
I wouldn't call it good, but it is funny to me

Post times when you always had it

>>96294776
Get this fucking slop out of here

>>96294749
>does not need to be synergistic
>you should intentionally play cards that are less synergistic or on theme to your deck
>every deck should run the same handful of the best of everything
kill
yo self
you bih

>>96294762 (OP)
>>TQ
Does this count? It costs an absurd amount of mana and only helps me out slightly, but I just love it as an interaction

>>96294788
More slop you say?

>>96294762 (OP)
How do we feel about makin' bacon in 2025?

I am immune to the allure of slop because it simply can not generate attractive male dragons.

>TQ

>>96294788
But its fun.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

We figured this one out for anon months ago, I still think it's neat

>>96294795
>you should intentionally play cards that are less synergistic or on theme to your deck
Not every card needs to play double duty for the theme anon. Bane of Progress has its place in decks that can actively use creature tutors for it to blow up boards. But it's maybe my 5th or 6th choice in bant for artifact and enchantment sweeper.

>>96294778
I want Stormsinger to go exponential with the tokens, it's one of the wincon line in my Subira but I'll also consider that if I don't have my commander on the battlefield.

>>96294845
loses to suplex

>>96294853
At sorcery speed?

>>96294858
Ignore me, I suck dicks

>>96294828
bulge version?

>>96294848
>1 less cost
>no huge body
>no synergy with a +1/+1 counter deck
...

>>96294845
SAVE ME FAREWELL

maybe the real synergy was the friends we made along the way

>>96294784
Just say that you're bad at the game.

>>96294877
>why would I want to blow up instants and artifacts at instant speed?
>why would I want immunity from etb hate when I have specifically named stax as a reason to play bane of progress?

I USED TO RULE THE WORLD

Viable in casual as a commander?

>>96294796
Noice I must say.

>>96294923
this is either complete garbage or a part of some insane degenerate combo I can't think of, there's no middle ground

unpopular opinion: proliferate is the best keyword

>>96294778
he answered you in the last thread, he needs stormsinger to make tokens that don't die at the end of combat.

>>96294923
It's better to play Patron of the Moon instead since he's the only support card for moonfolk land bounce tribal that does the reverse.

>>96294932
only deck ive seen with it centers around having cards that allow you to put lands back on the battlefield by tapping them so you'd be able to make as making flying tokens as you have of those tappable land placers each turn

>>96294934
That ain't deathtouch trample.

>>96294988
You forgot to add infect there.

>>96294975
We did it boys! We broke Krark-Clan Ironworks!

What would be a good deck to build around the theme of "Leviathan" or "Sea God" type of deal? I don't really know much about Commander but a friend keeps trying to get me to play and I like sea monsters.

>>96294889
People who play stax don't have anything against etb effects for some reason, shut the fuck up already.

>>96294776
>>96294798
>>96294828
I hope you find beautiful girlfriends and then they cheat on you and give you herpes and yeast infections

>>96295010
kiora
or just any legendary kraken, leviathan, serpent or maybe octopus if you want to stretch it.

>>96295004
KCI is used honestly there though, it's Tannuk that's broken.

>>96294795
I told you to keep your meltdown in the other thread, schizo.

How good is this precon? I've never played EDH before
https://moxfield.com/decks/DoT30b0NFECofPehozKyIQ

>>96295047
Against other precons of similar power level? It's okay.

>>96295047
>I've never played EDH before
Good, don't. Don't be a fucking tourist and spend money on collectible cardboard just because they printed it with some guy you know. I know it's futile telling a Warhammer fan to make smarter financial decisions, but seriously, you don't even know if you like the game.

>>96295010

>>96295050
I'm looking at getting that or doing a marrow gnawer deck

>>96295047
Maybe the worst or second worst of the 40k decks. It's generally fine against the typical precon but below average compared to universes beyond precons.

>>96295010
>>96295065
Kenessos is pretty lackluster, if you're gonna do simic sea monsters you're better off with Kiora or a thematic goodstuff card like Koma, Arixthemes, or Aesi.

>>96294762 (OP)
>TQ
Nice simple little combo.

>>96294800
I run it in simic decks. Otherwise it's just a lot of mana for so-so removal
>>96294888
The entire point is that you're bad at the game if your response to any discussion of combos is that you will "always have" whatever is necessary to stop or remove it

>>96295010

Okay /edhg/ I have a challenge for you, can you explain to me why I'm so retarded and cannot possibly build a good deck?

I've recently enrolled in my LGS's commander league and I've been having a good time socially (gross) but I always get folded like a lawn chair when it comes to actually winning a fucking game, Typically the usual decks at my table aren't anything insane or even really that competitive but they seem to steamroll me regardless, this is despite the fact that the league has a ban on infinite combos so its not like I'm just losing to not responding to a specific piece in time.

The main few decks I have built at the moment are Edgar Markov, Ruby Daring Tracker and that Inspirit pre-con with some upgrades I threw together from the FF Tidus pre-con. I tend towards more aggressive strategies but they never seem to be aggressive *enough* to out-speed my opponents.

>>96295047
all precons are dogshit and should only be played against other precons at best. to make a precon good while staying in bracket 2, you will switch out LOTS of cards, to a point where you cannot even call it an upgraded precon anymore.

>>96295010
the one and only ARIXMETHES
>can do a honest to god timmy deck and just ramp and drop one or more sea monsters every turn
>can upgrade it into a jank combo deck with the goal to go infinite mana and timmy even harder

>>96295066
>thinking of getting into commander
>chooses between $170 bad precon or most boring tribal archetype
Why are all new players like this??

>>96294722
30 One of each color combination. Start with your favorite color combination, then go with a mono color and off to the races.

>>96294762 (OP)
>What are some of your favorite combo line that you like to include in your deck, doesn't have to be infinite?

Anything involving this bitch.

>>96295151
first of all: your opponents cheat, at all times. you need to internalize that. only absolute sociopaths play a card game league. so either start cheating, or stop playing in a league.
b) speed is only king when you want to kill one guy fast. against 3 people, it's best to have a slower, defensive board that can interact a lot. stuff like having an interaction ability on the board ready at all times will scare a lot of opponents from making a move.
4: money is king. a well-constructed $600 deck will always outperform a well-constructed $100 deck. if you bring an upgraded precon, people will just shit on your with ease. either invest into better cards like a good little piggy, or learn how to use a printer.

>TQ
>name instant and sorcery
Tonight we're playing Magic as Richard Garfield intended.

>>96295216
yeah, ima counterspell that

I'm thinking of coming up with a variant of commander, called Pure EDH.

>no cards allowed after June 17, 2011
That's it. Pure, not outside corporate influence. In fact I'll go even one further.
>no tutoring
Just 100 cards in the order they come. No tutoring to make the deck act more like a 60 card deck.

>>96295222
I'll put back the original card into my hand and let the copy resolved

>>96295206
What is the cheapest deck you can run that would shitstomp the average EDH player with their pile of "its on the gamechanger list so I have to include it in my deck or im throwing" decks

>>96295234
you could have just paid 1, I was using mana tithe

>>96295019
>chimping out because I called a replaceable card replaceable
pathetic

>>96295224
You'll use the banlist as it was on June 17, 2011, right? Along with the rules as they were at the time.

>>96295224
I hope no tutoring includes lands

>>96295236
>cheap deck against gamechanger piles
oof. probably aristocrats, I don't think any of my decks with that theme are over $100 and all win non-combo. alternatively a commander that just draws a lot of cards, like jenova.

>>96295236
Talrand counterspell tribal.

>>96295236
Play control.

>>96295216
I hope you have a way to infinitely untap the engine and enough mana to pick everything with the archon

>>96295246
Ignore him. He couldn't keep his meltdown in the other thread

>>96295187
Colorless is so boring

>farewell was printed in 2022
Wait, it's that new? What's wrong with wotc?
I'm a newb, but c'mon already

>>96294037
I lock people on mtga into infinite turns until they concede. Hilarious. I refuse to kill them with mill or creature damage, because I just shuffle everything back into the library again.
Casting timewalk 7 times in a row was the most that one guy endured.

>>96295464
They just printed """Suplex""" in Final Fantasy. It's red artifact exiling. Little thing called power creep, sport.
As removal gets better, more cost effective, more versatile, cards increasingly get indestructible to make them less easy to remove.
Consequently, removal gets better, and the easiest way to do that is to exile instead of destroying. But WotC is exploring other avenues for that like:
>Ward - Sac eleventy billion permanents and allow your penis length to be measured and put on the store's officially sanctioned WPN leaderboard
It's the great evolutionary arms race

>>96295490
suplex isn't even an instant

>>96295490
Assassin's creed must've been a huge failure, because I've never seen anybody use the haystack to phase out your voltron commander besides me.

>>96295490
>They just printed """Suplex""" in Final Fantasy. It's red artifact exiling. Little thing called power creep, sport.
Red's had artifact exile as an "occasionally, if it's unwieldy" effect for almost 10 years.
Suplex is regarded as unwieldy because it exists in the same design space as Abrade but is only Sorcery speed.

>>96295503
Would've been flavorless if it were an instant

>>96295503
>almost 10 years
14 years and counting.
This one's unwieldy cause it needs two artifacts to target.

>>96295524
>Flavor text refers to Kethek by one title
>His real card uses a different title
This rustles my jimmies a bit

>>96295531
Might come later, isn't that the thing with every named character?
Jace the retard, Jace the cuck etc.

>>96295531
That's his compleated form after the rebellion lost most of their men. He has been merged with his furnace.

>Prof extremely pleased with himself because he pulled a card worth $350 in a collector's box
He had a gambling problem or still has one. He could barely recommend to buy singles instead of sealed products.

>Rachel and Jimmy
>what's wrong with infinite combos?
>there's nothing wrong with "I win" cards, because they're fun, just shuffle up and play again.
>there's nothing wrong with land destruction, it's part of magic
>stax? You need to die, this isn't fun.

>>96295490
>Little thing called power creep, sport.
I cringed

>>96295546
>Jace the retard
which memory loss arc was this for him

>>96295556
In that video he not only established that he's getting desperate for money, but also that he resells valuable cards and reinvests it into his channel only signing and giving away the less valuable rares. So he basically found fifty bucks down the back of the sofa, of course he was happy.

Watching him bitch about how people don't want to watch ads was so delightful. I think a man's stance on ads is so telling. You have real people who will not tolerate even a short ad because they understand their time is their own and they should not be forced to sit through a fucking ad for something they probably don't even want in the first place and lost precious seconds of their lives, and then you have the non humans. The """people" who have sided with the corporations and decided that intrusion upon how you wish to spend your brief time on this planet is so normalized that it should not be objectionable.
I installed SponsorBlock for youtube almost exactly a year ago, and in that time I have skipped literally entire DAYS of shit like sponsors, intros and end credits etc. It's kind of incredible how much it all adds up over time.

>>96295568
Exile is new, bro. Exile is very new.

>>96295574
Just his French version, it's thé retard.

>>96295490
Exile-based artifact removal was prompted by a certain 4-drop having indestructible and consequently being impossible to remove. Red has so far gotten 3 different "Abrade-like" cards aimed at fulfilling this role and big shocker it turns out weaker Abrade won't magically fix the card's dominance because Abrade itself was already struggling with not answering an adequate number of threats for its mana cost.
WotC HATES printing good removal specifically because people complain whenever it exists. Removal is currently lagging years behind the quality of threats which is why constructed 60-card is on fire from every single fucking threat being unanswerable.

>>96295576
I unironically wish him to fall off the wagon and get extremely drunk again and die, just like Amy Winehouse, couldn't happen to a better person. He was in favor of when stalkers sent people pics of their home and telling them to kill themselves. So it's fair game.

>>96295564
>just shuffle up and play again.
I think this is the ultimate "let them eat cake" statement of EDH.
I am very fortunate that I can play between 4-6 games of EDH a week across 2 days. This time is pretty soon going to come to an end, but I'm making the most of it now. But even getting to play that much, I'm not happy to "shuffle up and play again" because very often we don't actually fucking have time for that. If a game ends at an awkward point in our allotted play time, it usually means going home early because there isn't enough time for another one. Or people have come to the LGS saying they're only going to stay for a set number of games rather than a set amount of time.
And I don't want to just play half a dozen games where they all end on turn 3, because that's not really playing, you might as well just reveal your hands and first 3 draws on turn 1 and see who would have had their combo out first.

These people who somehow manage to play Magic for a living play tens of games a week. Of course it doesn't matter to them if a game ends "early" because they have fuck-all else to be doing.
For them to be calling down from their ivory towers "this is good, you actually get to play MORE Magic now the game is already over" is so wildly out of touch.

>>96295597
>He was in favor of when stalkers sent people pics of their home and telling them to kill themselves
Quick run down?

>pic related somehow has the exact same salt score as Blood Moon despite being much more disruptive
Wtf

>>96295603
cool blog post, does your wife's boyfriend know you play MtG?

So I suck at threat assesment. Is Cathars crusade a must removal target in a non combo pod?
Deck is selesnya Token soup.

How does anyone deal with feeling like they are spending too much money on commander but don't play the game enough. My work schedule rotates so there is no "regular" day I play and whenever I walk into a local place it's barren for mtg.

>>96295151
9 times out of 10 it’s a consistency problem, and a further 9 times out of 10 rhe problem with consistency is lack of draw.

Cram your deck with draw spells and pay offs. For just about any deck theme there will be cards that say “when you do the thing, draw a card”- whether it’s playing enchantments, playing artifacts, playing instants and sorceries, playing creatures with low power, playing creatures with high power. Theres even cards that’ll just let you draw however many times per turn, or when your opponents do things.
Once your deck has strong draw power you will see it perform better simply because you have more options each game

can I cast an instant spell on my turn after beginning of combat triggers resolve, but before I move to declare attackers?

>>96295697
No stalker child, it is YOU that is the cuckold. Enjoy being added to the game changers list.

>>96295742
yes

>>96295791
ok, and can I cast another instant after letting that first instant resolve? I'm asking because stuff like this wouldn't work in the endstep for example

>TQ
(((They))) think that the pre-ban can stop us.

>>96295812
Yes

What's a good card to use instead of Timmy in case my opponents are faggots?

>>96295837
I'm guessing you mean as a commander? If not just use Elvish Piper lol.
As far as Legendaries go Timmy is pretty unique but you could try Mr. Foxglove.

>>96295837
Kona

>>96295837
why would you want to disable your faggot filter?

>>96295773
>no u
everytime

How was your weekend?
I got put at a table between Myrim and Sliver Overlord and janked them out with Goblins and a copied Price of Progress. I got stomped out in the second game but I claim a moral victory.

>>96296116
i played vs an esper and bant commander's.
which were basically counterspells.deck
you can imagine how i feel.

Currently have a shitty Kami of the Crescent Moon deck all about force feeding people their library but its missing something. Do I optimize kami or is there a more fun wheels commander?

>>96294816
>Tempest of Light and Dawn’s Truce
>two cards
>not doing it with one card that also untaps all your lands

>>96294762 (OP)
>TQ
I always love having a combo win that includes a pet card that is objectively kind of dogshit

>>96296240
Get a Forbid and Arcane Laboratory.

>>96294762 (OP)
>tq
I really like kiki jiki/splintertwin combos

>>96296116
I played my unmodified precon vs the tidus precon a few times and never really had a chance. Yeah farwell is backbreaking.
I like what this deck is trying to do and I'll modify it slowly over time.

What is the optimal way to sort a collection of a few thousand cards?

>>96296450
Long boxes, sorted by color + artifact and multicolor. Use separators if they dont fill the whole box. Dont worry about any more granular sorting.

>>96296450
design a lego robot with a scanner that flips through a set of cards using rubber wheels
depending on the color, it flips the cards into one of X directions
then do it again and set it to sort after card name. might be a bit more tricky because of over 26 possible directions

>>96296489
Post code.

>>96295578
Its literally not stop larping like you know cards

>>96295837
Oviya is just powercrept Timmy

>>96296474
I should've mentioned that I'm planning to have them all scanned in delver lens so I can quickly figure out what I have and then I simply need to be able to find them in the box.
If I only sort them by color trying to find one card sounds awful. Maybe color and first letter.

>>96295578
I guess alpha is new

>>96295501
It was, there was zero overalp in the the fanbases to begin with.
MtGfags and ACfags had no desire to explore the other fanbase's product of choice.

>>96296582
>return to ownder's deck only when game is over
Obvious fake card. It doesn't even have a copyright year.

>>96296531
>If I only sort them by color trying to find one card sounds awful. Maybe color and first letter
I have about 5,000 cards, I've never had a problem sorting color only. It's actually wicked fast.

>>96295501
It got boned by some behind the scenes agreement to make their packs shit and small which is a shame its a real good set

>>96296582
nta, but where does it say exile? Checkmate

>>96296593
I've played a couple of AC games years ago and I like the flavor, but the booster sets is one of the worst yet. So many cards are clearly just for commander even though it's supposed to be a set for "modern"

>>96296582
Chuck Norris?

>notion thief is 20 cents now
Did cards lose value after they were declared game changers or was this card always so cheap?

So initially I was excited for "Munitions" off of Weapons Manufacturing as a build line for artifact self-sac; did it just turn out to be only one card?

I mean it's not like there's not enough to do with other artifact sources, but I thought we were going to get some legs there instead of just something to put next to food/treasure/clue piles.

>>96296745
Must've been maybe a larger theme that got abandoned and they left one Munition card as a consolation prize for the guy who came up with it or something

>>96296745
No, sometimes they just make a card that makes a unique token.

>>96296745
It's an insanely busted card and if you have a copy of it you're lucky Standardfags haven't realized its potential yet. The fact it says they explode when leaving the field means you're literally sitting on a nuclear deterrent the longer the enchantment is out

>can't use jet medallion 2: electric boogaloo in my pod because they themed it after some shitty japanese game

>>96296813
Okay? No one cares anon. Get a diary for this shit.

>>96296813
>can't
and who is stopping you?

>>96296813
just play it

>>96296833
Someone who is based, clearly
>>96296813
Good. Keep non-Magic out of Magic. Only insects in human form consume cardboard with no concern for its effect on the hobby

>>96296813
I know this feel
Im not cucking though

>>96296813
>>96296840
Awww look anon you were signaling for a boyfriend and you found one this is so sweet ;-;

>>96296813
>>96296840
>i'm a cuckold
why advertise that in a thread for a card game?

>>96296833
It's a mutual agreement. I am not complaining about the pod. I am complaining about the card.

>>96296854
>>96296863
>munch crunch slurp schlop
>what's the big deal anon?
>munch crunch slurp schlop
>just consume!
>munch crunch slurp schlop
>who cares if it's literal poison?
>munch crunch slurp schlop
sure taste good don't it?
>munch crunch slurp schlop

Final Fantasy fits mtg better than Edge of Eternities

>>96296873
genuine mental illness post

>>96296896
Here's the thing anon, you don't have to accept either of them! You can tell Wizards that they've gone so off the rails that neither of them should be in Magic!
That is of course unless you're trying to create a false dichotomy where the slop you like is the lesser of two evils. But you wouldn't do that would you anon? :)

>>96296912
>munch crunch slurp schlop
>how can consuming be bad?
>munch crunch slurp schlop
>I'm just one of thousands of piggies at the trough!
>munch crunch slurp schlop
>the company's financial success is my hobby's success!
>munch crunch slurp schlop

>>96296929
see >>96296912

>>96296873
Post your ID and prove you were alive when blocks were a thing anon

>>96296918
>false dichotomy
what's false about it? Final Fantasy is mostly western fantasy and Magic was western fantasy.

>>96296945
It's okay if you're unable to confront your embarrassing behavior and the inherent contradictions you try to use to justify it, you simply do not have to post.
>>96296952
Ah the good old purity test. Truly the last bastion of the rat.

>antiUBfag meltie
>again

>>96296960
>I LIKE the slop so you should like it too!
You out yourself. You don't actually believe in any level of quality for Magic, if you did you'd see UB as advertizing and reject it on that basis alone.
Ultimately, you like the slop you were served and you want to make disingenuous arguments to try and make it palatable to people who know better.

>>96296967
This is not your safespace, redditor. Free to go back where you came from at any time.

>>96296971
mtg didn't have any quality post weatherlight saga anyways

You know what's crazy? Warhammer players are the biggest paypiggies in all of tabletop, but at least even THEY have the braincells to rub together and realize that what is good for the company can be bad for the player.
Why is it Magic players so frequently fall at this hurdle? Whenever you criticize piggy's precious UB you're immediately screeched at about how well the slop sold. Because money for executives is good right?

>>96296873
This.

>>96296846
>>96296863
>being able to reach and maintain a compromise with a group of friends is now equated to cuckoldry
Jesus Christ

>>96296989
insinuating that mtg's lore is anywhere close to w40k's is absolutely retarded
blame yourself for not gatekeeping hard enough, at least w40k players can put their foot down and insist space marines must remain 100% male

>>96294762 (OP)
>TQ
not as fancy or as strong as modern combos but it feels so good when you get to pull it off.

>>96296813
Make your own universes within version

>>96297090
>insinuating that mtg's lore is anywhere close to w40k's is absolutely retarded
Where was that said in the post you're replying to?
Are you brain damaged or just a bad actor? The point was pretty clear
>the company making money is not necessarily good for your hobby
Warhammer fans understand this. Their game has undergone constant shrinkflation. Every year (sometimes even multiple times a year) Warhammer prices go up, meanwhile what you get in a box has consistently gone down. Games Workshop is now a billion dollar company, their share price keeps going up year on year. And yet Warhammer players are able to understand that line going up does not translate to a better quality game or a better hobby experience. Magic players, whether honest or not, do not seem to understand this. One of the biggest defenses to the raping of this hobby is that it is profitable.
>Final Fantasy best selling set ever!!!!!!
>lots of new players (probably, we don't know because WotC doesn't release that information and would never tell us if it was actually a net loss)!!!!!!!!
It's just so bizarre for people to defend something on the basis that it is good for a corporation.

>>96296813
>after some shitty japanese game
lmao that salt
reminder being so irony pilled is a uniquely white western diease

>>96297140
I fucking hate that even the UW versions had to say "walker" instead of zombie

>>96297168
Gomen anon-kun. Would-u you prefer-u aiii talk-u in-o language-o you understand-u?

>>96297169
Well they made the Walkers a unique type of zombie token

>>96297181
But WHY?

>>96297183
Because they thought they would never have to make a Universes Within version of the cards. But now they've just said fuck you and aren't doing Universes Within anymore.

>>96297087
People who can't read shouldn't post.

>>96297193
>Because they thought they would never have to make a Universes Within version of the cards. But now they've just said fuck you and aren't doing Universes Within anymore.
Doesn't it seem more likely with that set of facts that actually at the time they DID expect to make a UW version because they couldn't be sure how their audience was going to react and they thought it would make it more palatable? I'd even be interested to know if announcements at the time said they would UW it.

No, the answer you're looking for is:
>accommodating the IP matters more than translating it to Magic
That is a simple truth that has remained consistent. It's why we have fucking Jumbo Cactuar with 10,000 power. Absurd number, but it's "le heckin flavor win!!!!!!!!!"
It is clear as day that Wizards values the IPs they license more than the game itself.

>>96297183
It was probably 100% a brand decision. Sometimes we get special tokens to specifically dodge synergies, but then the TWD cards don't do anything to "Walkers" specifically either.

The power creep in mtg is just too much these days, I feel like a deck I made 2 years ago is already obsolete. Every time I go to my LGS people threaten to win turns 3-5 no joke. I think precon wars is just more fun, if I want some fast shit I would just play 1x1 formats

>>96297204
Tell that to >>96297090

>>96297207
>at the time they DID expect to make a UW version because they couldn't be sure how their audience was going to react
Well no the thing is wotc is run by out of touch west coast corpo retards so they either thought people would love it or didn't care what they thought one way or the other because the execs said it would make money.

>>96297211
Bracket 2 is objectively the best bracket. No game changers, no two card infinites, just slinging spells and slamming dorks for 10 turns.

>>96297178
>still seething
keep whining impotently into the void as if that will change anything roru rumao

>>96297214
Why would I? My post >>96296846 is fucking agreeing with you, dumbass.

>>96297207
Jumbo Cactaur would have been a boring green beater without that ability, in which case there's no point in having printed it. The same goes for a number of cards made to reflect their game appearances, like Tonberries as enters-tapped deathtouch creatures or things like Excalibur II from FF9 being a card you want to get on field as soon as possible (referencing its acquisition method).

The TWD Walker tokens scream of executive meddling from outside WOTC; because there's no fan-facing reason to do that. They aren't even mechanically different tokens (which is a bit of a pet peeve of mine now that we have so many tokens with the same names, but different statlines, rules and keywords... my WIP Cat deck weeps).

There's something to be said for references and ideas on paper not being good when you print them on cardboard, but the phrase that is most applicable in my mind is "It is better to be bad than it is to be boring".

>tfw building an actual craw wurm deck

>>96297163
>>96297214
>The point was pretty clear
yes we know you hate UB, and your meltdown simply means that somehow UW is worth defending and that we're just blind in seeing it
sorry fucktard, it's not
UW is shit, and no amount of denial will ever change that hahaha
>One of the biggest defenses to the raping of this hobby is that it is profitable.
speak for yourself, i defend UB because at least there i can expect pretty faces, tits, ass, pits, and tummy, your UW has none of that and will never have any of that, sucks to suck i guess lmao

>>96296813
>I want to play a card, but I am, and play with, a bunch of seething man children.
I too remember being 12.

>>96297248
>Jumbo Cactaur would have been a boring green beater without that ability, in which case there's no point in having printed it.
>listen man we just HAVE to break the conventions of this game *scratches at sores on forearms* PLEASE dude! it'll be boring if you don't *head twitches* my UB slop CAN'T be boring, PLEASE I'm begging you
Seek help.
>"It is better to be bad than it is to be boring".
How about my saying:
>UB is a fucking unskippable ad and should never have been printed

>>96297257
I gotta be honest, if they started consistently doing UW I'd probably stop bitchin about UB.

>>96297257
I don't know whether to laugh or sigh at the fact this is seriously the peak of pro-UB commentary.
You people have nothing to say and yet act so smug.

>>96297261
>munch crunch slurp schlop
>just consume, all the big boys are doing it!
>munch crunch slurp schlop

>>96297274
kek look at you at a loss for words
don't accuse others of what you're guilty of, (You) have nothing to say and all your kvetching is for naught, find another card game that has solely white western fantasy aesthetics if you're so assmad
>w8, there isn't any!!! bwahahaha

>>96297257
>why should we sacrifice everything that got us into this hobby just to make a corporation richer?
>"so I can GOOOOOOOON to it, man!"

>>96297280
>>96297287
>their only attack now is that you're le bad paypiggy
imagine being poor, can't be me!

>>96297261
>I don't want to play UB
>Yeah me neither
Aren't you forgetting to ask someone?

>>96297293
Seems to upset you plenty.

>>96297295
i'm not the one crying over UB like a faggot kekw

>>96297298
I literally can't tell if you're falseflagging to make UB slop slurpers look bad

>>96297298
>zoomy zooming
lol figured

>>96297300
i can already tell that you're mad that UW sucks though and that no one likes it hahaha

>>96297301
>boomer dying off
can't wait!

>>96297311
yeah in like 55 years
you are going to have to deal with us for a long ass time.

>>96297267
If you would stop tweaking for five minutes at a time you'd come off as less of a fucking retard.

>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CARD GAME PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY SELLING CARD GAMES

We know, sit down.

>>96297267
>UB is a fucking unskippable ad
damn, I never thought about it but that's actually pretty true.

>>96297317
>average life expectancy of an american white male is ~78
>claims he'll die in 55 years
>meaning he's only 23
look at the zoomer larping that he's a boomer lmao
mtg's past is not worth defending dumdum

>>96297335
The men in my family live to be on average 91.
I'm assuming I will live till my mid 80s.

>>96297294
Then why are you whining?

>>96297340
constantly seething about things you can't control like UB won't make you live longer btw

>>96296813
>pulled a fancy foil jet medallion 2
>cant use it because it replaces the death triggers my entire deck relies on
At least it actually does something useful unlike the blue one.

>>96297355
>>96297357
wew

>>96297357
>you can't control it!
>just consume!
Not getting my money

>>96296869
You're complaining that the card is good? Look, I hate UB every bit as much as you. But this is just a crystal. It's not Spiderman's buttplug. It's very easy to imagine it to be UW.

>>96297391

>>96297222
Bracket 2 is the green is god bracket

>>96297399
He wants to use it, but can't get past his irrational seethe to just accept the fact that is an official legal card

>>96297430
Idk I can think of plenty of rational reasons why you might want to play a card but ultimately don't do so. Including it being UB.

>>96297469
>this card is from a set I don't like so its actually shit despite the fact I want to use it!
>rational
Pick one idiot.

>>96297469
>I LITERALLY cannot use this picture of a cool dark crystal because it says "ffiv" at the bottom
This is seriously on the same tier as when swordfag said he tries to avoid using The List cards because he doesn't like the planeswalker symbol on the bottom.

Which cards unironically deserve a ban?

>>96297483
yes.

>>96297511
>yes i'm like swordfag and i'm proud
ngmi

>>96297473
This collage actually has a bit of cheerleader effect going on.

>>96297493
Thoracle, just force the meta to actually adapt and stop being so fucking boring

>>96295812
>I'm asking because stuff like this wouldn't work in the endstep for example
wut

>>96297169
it is a zombie, walker is short for "walker, texas zombie"

>>96297493
Thoracle for sureacle
Ancestral Recall
Black Lotus
Channel
Dockside Extortionist
either flash or hulk
Golos, Tireless Pilgrim because fuck those guys
probably hull breacher
idk about Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
Iona, Shield of Emeria I don't think she is that strong but it does make for less interesting games if she resolves.
Karakas
Jeweled Lotus, never shoulda been printed
Leovold, Emissary of Trest with extreme prejudice
Lutri, the Spellchaser, hell just ban all companions
Mana Crypt good riddance
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Nadu maybe idk I have little experience against it
Paradox Engine, probably. I was playing it when it got banned and was relieved.
Prophet of Kruphix probably needs to stay on but the game has changed a lot since then.
Sundering Titan
Time Vault
Time Walk
Tinker
Tolarian Academy
Shahrazad, reflex, ante, ALL UNSET CARDS and conspiracies.

so basically take some stuff off and add all unset cards + thoracle to the list. Obviously some of this stuff is playing with fire, a legal yawgmoth's bargain or upheaval for instance but I think its time to have a lot of the community experience why these cards are on the list as opposed to just knowing that they are broken.

>>96297493
sol ring

>>96297589
>I think its time to have a lot of the community experience why these cards are on the list as opposed to just knowing that they are broken.
I 100% agree, though I think there should be like a month every year where the banlist is just thrown out the window.
Call it February because that month is going to be cold and shitty anyway.

>>96297404
Anon thats every bracket

>>96297598
this, its the definition of fast mana

>>96297222
take me with you!

>>96295262
Yes. How were the rules different then?

>>96295121
>The entire point is that you're bad at the game if your response to any discussion of combos is that you will "always have" whatever is necessary to stop or remove it
I think if you're playing control it's reasonable to assume you always have a couple of counterspells in hand

>>96297675
>I think if you're playing control it's reasonable to assume you always have a couple of counterspells in hand
thanks for admitting that you've never built a blue control deck

Does anyone miss him?

They call me insane but this will work.
Trust me bros.

>>96297748
>Does anyone miss him?
cedh does, it's a midrane hell right now with blue farm

>I think its a little bullshit that you proxied winter orb for your control deck, its kind of too powerful of a card to be proxying for our play group
>So anyway, I play this proxy tropical island and lotus petal, sac the lotus petal to play mana vault so I can then play Azusa, Lost but Seeking, then play savannah and plateau

>>96297773
yet more proof that proxyfags lack restraint, color me shocked

>>96295262
T U C K
U
C
K

>>96295224
Its already a format called predh

>>96297762
Okay but what's the plan the inevitable Doom Blade?

>>96297855
You know whats the beauty of hidden zones? You can lie and cheat in them and its legal.

>>96297877
Oh, so you only find ~40 slimes and keep the rest in library from F2F. Smart.

>>96297748
I do
although I personally haven't seen someone flicker/recur dockside to murder a table and thats the reason given as why its banned, I know the real reason:
because sol ring and arcane signet are in every deck
>turn 2 tap 2 cast dockside
>create 6 treasures

but also treasures are broken anyway, they should have never been designed to come into play untapped

>heavier package from tcgplayer than I've ever gotten
>"you've been randomly selected to receive a grand archive tcg demo deck"
I don't have a reaction image to properly convey my confusion and minor disgust at this

>>96297855
sometimes you got it and sometimes you get got

>>96297877
>lie and cheat
>any number of cards with the same name as that spell
it's not cheating and you don't need to lie

>>96297976
you are correct. I am currently switch from golgari to bant and had to explain multiple times why extirpate works. i just expected these counter spells to work the same.

>>96297922
is it fun?

https://archidekt.com/decks/14905016

I need to remove 4 cards..

>>96298012
>https://archidekt.com/decks/14905016
>6 draw
>34 lands
>20% of your deck is cmc 5 or higher
No wonder why I can walk into an lgs with my og darigaaz and still get wins

>>96298042
>be faggot
>'we are playing tier 2 meme decks'
>'oh for sure yeah bro this is darigaaz old school haha I dont know the bracket system but my deck is weak ;)'
>jeska's will manageyser underworld breach
>damn these retards don't know how to make a deck lol

>>96298070
those cards are all too new
try worldgorger animate dead

>>96294953
patron was a fun deck

>>96298070
oh and btw ur deck still sucks ur going to need to cut a lot more than 4 cards.

>>96297773
Anon azusa is monogreen

>>96298096
Who said it was their commander?

>>96298006
it doesn't actually come with instructions, just "put the decks in two piles like this" and a qr code to read a quickstart guide. so I have no idea. looks like "draw your starting hand" is tied to a specific thing that you take out as your first action though, which is an odd choice.

>>96298079
>>96298091

>oh bro worldgorger and animate dead hahaha man! what a truly unknown and ancient combo lol lmao 2 card infinite


ok? You are still a faggotnigger lying through your teeth against shitty decks people are goofing around with and acting like you are good when you shit out a 2 card infinite and use free shit like deflecting to protect it.

It's not exactly hard to create competitive decks, cedh is what, 30 of the same cards in virtually every deck, and 50%~ of all decks have force of will in them?

If I wanted to optimize the fun out of my mecha tribal deck, I would.

>>96297748
every day has been bliss without it

I
ALWAYS
FUCKING
HAVE
IT
AND YOU
NEVER
FUCKING
DO

>>96298124
Oh man, you are completely off your rocker, aren't you?

>>96298124
>actual reddit spacing

>>96298174
>have it
>space out and miss my chance to use it because its been a 20 minute turn
every time

>>96298174
>>96297953
the duality of man

>>96298202
*flicks cards*
uh...
*flicks cards*
hmm...

>>96294888
>you can outskill rng and random chance

>>96298229
I just have it

>>96295010
Custom made for you bro

>>96297877
What exactly are you lying about here?

>>96297493
We don't need bans and game changers. We need the brackets to be actually defined and cards assigned to each one. In the current system you can build a brutal legal bracket 2 deck with hyper efficiency and consistency while having a piece of dogshit bracket 4 deck that folds to precons. The system is worthless unless they start putting cards decisively in bracket 1/2/3, etc (and honestly they should fuck off with the 5 tiers, we only need 3).

>>96297493
>Rhystic Study
Preys on bad players, which EDH has in no short supply. Scales disproportionately with multiplayer to the point that even CEDH sweats shit themselves in fear if this resolves.
>Sol Ring
Swingy game-ruiner grandfathered into the format, will never ever eat a ban.
>Cyclonic Rift
Hands-down the best board wipe in casual bar none. One-sided. Instant speed. No card is a comparable replacement in any deck.
>Vampiric and Demonic Tutor
Iconic but cringe. Go-to black staples beyond compare. Ironically despite being played by sweats alone Imperial Seal is the more balanced alternative by far. Grim Tutor is the closest "fair" in terms of mana value, plus adding another B shores up absurd splashability.
>Thoracle
Just a mistake being printed.
>The One Ring
Basically belongs in 99% of decks, and the only reason you AREN'T running it is because
1. You (justifiably) find it cringe
2. You don't own one and don't want to proxy it
Otherwise from an optimization standpoint this card improves basically every EDH deck in existence.

>>96298300
>you can build a brutal standard deck with hyper efficiency and consistency while having a piece of dogshit vintage deck that folds to precons
>this means formats are shit ofc
kekw

>>96298418
>The One Ring
What, you don't like me drawing a bajillion cards and then bouncing the ring to reset the counters?

>>96298444
I don't like any card that you can look at and include in every deck without consideration.

>>96298444
jokes on you. Im proliferating this bitch.

>>96298444
>casts pithing needle
>this isn't going to resolve, is lit?

has anyone been playing mtgo since the bracket change? what do the lobbies look like, are the people playing all 5 brackets? when you do get into games are the decks reasonably in the right brackets?

While ultimately every deck will never be able to always have it, I think many casuals players lean too hard on "I didn't draw it!" as an excuse for poor deckbuilding.
Like they'll have 5 sources of draw in their whole deck and 2 are cantrips. Accompanied by 2 pieces of interaction total. Yeah no shit you didn't draw it because you're not drawing shit, let alone one of two specific cards.

>bracket 2 is best because you can't tutor for everything!
>build deck with a consistent game plan
>there are 500 redundant cards now that all do the same thing for every strategy
>instead of building around a fun gimmick, you can just sweat and build your game plan toward peak efficiency
Sure showed those tutor fags.

>>96298523
yes.

>see the moxfield of an attendee at an LGS where I had an unpleasant time
>oh here's the list that gave me bad vibes
>click link
Holy fucking slop rofl, if this is the average deck over there I'm not going back.

>>96298453
Shitposting aside, I agree. I only have one because I have some asshole friends who insist on using it. I have enough combos to also give myself permanent fuck off with the ring as well, in case they get annoying.

>>96298523
Okay. My gameplan is Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond. Name 5 pieces of redundancy this strategy has.

>>96298584
That's not a gameplan

>>96298563
Average player that refuses to use brackets (they don't want to be labeled bracket 4 and play against other powerful decks).

>>96298523
I don't know why people get so butthurt about not wanting 2 card infinites, free counter spells or tutors. they just sperg both on this board and IRL.

>>96298589
>a gameplan is what i say it is
lol

>>96298584
Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose
Aetherflux Reservoir
Vizkopa Guild Mage
Enduring Tenacity
Bloodthirst Conqueror

>>96298584
>picking the worst possible combo to illustrate his point

>>96298589
How is it not a gameplan? That's what my Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, Enlightened Tutor, Idyllic Tutor, Grim Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, Profane Tutor, Mastermind's Acquisition, and Diabolic Intent are finding every game.

>mfw my lgs has casual edh Sundays
>mfw the only rule is no infinites
It's fun to just play and enjoy yourself without any wacky rules.

>>96298607
It's also one of the most popular combos in the game for "casual" players.

>>96298593
>yes let me just fill my deck with 5cmc cards that are duds without the combo instead of a tutor that can be removal when needed

>>96298631
yes.

>>96298631
>name 5 pieces of redundancy
>ok
>UM...
I can't even see the goalposts anymore with how far you've moved them anon.

>>96298631
that is literally the appeal of the bracket.

>>96295164
sleepy funky crab is the best commander

>>96298631
Real strategies still function, combofag. Just not yours. That's by design because you have no originality.

You could play
>voltron
>aristocrats
>control
>aggro
>tribal
>reanimator
>flicker
>infect
To name a few, but instead you chose the most boring thing imaginable.

>>96298637
>there are so many redundant copies of whatever combo!
>why do people still want tutors?!
>WHY?!?!!?!?!!?
hahaha

>>96298657
>call me boring
>i stomp you to the ground in turn
fair transaction imo

>>96298590
only faggots use this jotc nulingo.
is your deck built to win or fun? no in-between, thats how ot should always be.
>but gavin made the brackets to simpl-ACK
off yourself cuck

>>96297493
too many to list
alternatively nothing

>>96298631
this may blow your mind, but some people like variance and running multiple similar cards instead of tutoring the same ones each time
thats why they play in bracket 2 and 3 instead of 4 and 5

>>96298681
Why can't I want both?

>>96298692
>variance
>run similar cards
hhmmmmm

>>96298701
ikr?! lmao
i swear these casual andys don't know what they're talking about

>>96297483
When I buy cards I also avoid those with the planeswalker symbol. If I already have it and it's the art I want I'll use it but otherwise I don't see a reason why I'd settle for the list version.

>>96298681
i built blue farm to have fun and you WILL have fun with me

>>96298593
Good work. Honestly didn't expect someone to post them. Main one I disagree with is Aetherflux Reservoir since what it does is a bit more conditional than the other options (it technically works but it's harder to get started). Vizkopa Guildmage also expands color identity beyond monoB.

>>96298681
My blue farm deck is built for fun because I replaced Mental Misstep with Cyclonic Rift.

You don't understand, I NEED to run bloodmoon against precons

>>96298754
Based. If you want to play more than one color, don't cry if I fuck up your lands. I'm sure you have an answer to that somewhere in your deck, seeing as how you can use different colors.

>>96298754
>play a gruul precon
huh neat, is that enchanment bad or something?

>>96298493
bracket 2 decks in mtgo are full of decks with 3+ card combos where 1 is the commander, because ofc gavin in his infinite wisdom didn't consider a card that you always have access to as a combo piece

>the charges, officer?

>>96298832
taking more than five minutes to choose the modes on austere command

>buy packs
>pull gas
>trade in for store credit
>buy more packs
>pull more gas
>trade in for more credit
>only make budget decks
Just love cracking packs

>>96298832
i miss seb

>>96298832
I miss farewell
UNBAN MY BOY

>>96298860
Dont scare me like that

How do you word this so it adheres to Daybound/nightbound? Just add:
>Whenever this creature enters or transforms into
?

>>96298832
not using the cute weeb art instead

>>96298938
I'm not paying the faggot tax

>>96298853
Yeah. Easily one of the best artists the game had, and the controversy that got him fired was so stupid. Could have had so many new cards with his art already.

>>96298938
I wish you could get this in full-art. Maybe if I see it in foil somewhere I'll pick one up. Only one I see from my favorite vendor is JP language.

>>96298938
If you think that's better than some Seb McKinnon art then I don't know what to tell you. No accounting for taste I guess.

>>96298986
What exactly happened? Short version is fine if it's controversial and we don't want to derail the thread

>>96299006
canada sucks and wotc sucks

>>96298997
Farewell isn't exactly a peak Seb McKinnon piece if we're being honest though is it?
Just because you like and artist you don't have to suck their dick over every single piece.

>>96294858
Sure, why not? Or do you think that artifact lands can't be targeted by suplex, what?

>>96298709
Yeah I don't even see how this is is controversial.
It's not like I won't use them but I'm never trying to buy the less visually appealing print.
Random PW symbol in the corner just genuinely does not look good.
At all.

>>96298832
I love when a white player sits down at a low power tsble does nothing but fort and boardwipe tribal with the wincon of boring the table to death
got stuck in a 4 hour game of that shit and he had the balls to complain the game was taking too long

>>96299138
Especially for the older frames, a part of it is cut to fit the symbol.

>>96299006
He went to a rally against the canadian mandatory vaccine mandate (he wasn't antivax, he just didn't agree with the mandatory mandate for truckers entering canada to be vaccinated) There were also a few (and i do mean very few) people with nazi flags at said rally, which led people to conflate everyone at the rally as an antivax nazi. Spoiled to avoid attention and not derail the thread

>>96299085
Not that anon but it is one of my favorites of his. The dandelion turning into spirits is a pretty striking image.

>>96299140
>does nothing but fort and boardwipe tribal with the wincon of boring the table to death
bracket 2 legal btw
normally i'd tell you guys to run combos but hey have fun being played for fools lol

Thoughts on Ayesha Tanaka, Armorer?
I've tested her out in a few above average powered games and she can be very explosive. Unique playstyle and not your typical artifact slop vomit tokens onto the battlefield.

If she was 1 mana less she'd legit be perfect, maybe too strong though?

>>96299243
>bracket 2 legal btw
Why wouldn't it be? Pillowfort is a dogshit lower power archetype

>>96299243
should have interrogated him more
hindsight is 20/20

>>96299286
>Pillowfort is a dogshit lower power archetype
exactly so imagine the type of player who would whine about it

>>96299243
where else would you play pillowfort except to stomp on the go-wide bracket 2 decks?

>>96299140
>I love when a white player [...] does nothing but fort and boardwipe tribal with the wincon of boring the table to death
here's literally nothing wrong with that play pattern.
>he had the balls to complain the game was taking too long
nvm, fuck that fucking guy. if you built a deck for a villainous purpose, you have to accept being the villain.

>>96299290
>why would you hate this card
>you would hate it if you play in bracket 2
>haha get trolled

>I play my winota and them go to combat and attack with a bunch of cats for 7 triggers
>Hold on, you didn't give us a chance to react to anything, I'm going to cast deadly rollick on winota before combat even starts
>too bad I already declared it!
People actually behave like this at fucking lgs

>no precons
>only "commander's bundle"

>>96299387
Ive seen it both ways
Declare your intent to enter combat you fuck

>>96299387
any time i do anything even vaguely important i always ask in order if it resolves because theres too many people that want to do shit in hindsight and or just speed through casts and triggers like no one is ever gonna respond

>>96299474
If only they would stop printing cards directly into out format
I used to look forward to them every year but it's been ridiculous that every set has them

>>96299387
Jeez. In my pod it's common not to ask all the time if something resolves or if you may go to the next phase, but it's accepted for people to react retroactively, i.e. "I cast my instant when you went to declare blockers step".
It's working pretty well for us.

>>96299172
going to add that Seb didn't get totally exiled like Nielsen, so his art will be reprinted(for now), but new cards whit him? fat chance

>people unironically defending swordfag's "tastes"
>no guys the PW symbol ruins the card!
>one of the only ways we got some important reprints is bad actually!

>>96299590
it does look like dogshit, especially on reprints of the old card frame

>one of the only ways we got some important reprints is bad actually!
printer goes brrrr

>>96299590
Go away you retarded obsessed faggot.

not sure how to feet about swordfag

>>96299387
>too bad I already declared it!
I'm pleased to have never met anyone act like this in any store. the worst is someone who massively misunderstood how priority and thought he could hold priority until his spells resolved. took a while to explain, but he definitely wasn't cheating, just misinformed

>>96299657
>how to feet
lmao

>>96299657
why?

>>96299376
>you would hate it if you play in bracket 2
no i don't because i don't play decks that get hosed by boardwipes in any bracket/format

>>96296813
>My pod and I are retarded
Sorry for your loss

>>96299267
She's a bit cucked by needing to attack but it's a fun deck.

>>96299684
>I just always have it
t. No games larper

>>96298183
this isn't a thing btw

>>96298681
B
A
S
E
D
Bracket fags get the rope

>>96298681
>>96299791
>he plays a game made by wotc
ngmi

>>96299474
I'm not an avatarfag does this series really have a big enough fanbase to justify a whole set? I remember stuff like Teen Titans and Ben 10 being a way more popular cartoons than Avatar back in the day

>>96299773
>he didn't read the entire chain
imagine being this upset about farewell lmao stop playing jank if you don't want to be bullied simple as

>>96299809
I just have it and you don't. Simple as.

>stop playing jank at the jank table
no

>>96298754
>precons are so fucking weak
My bracket 4 deck has lost to precons though?

>THEN YOUR DECK SUCKS
Well that would mean brackets are bad at actually judging powerlevel

>>96299808
A 45 year old boomer at my lgs was extremely excited about the avatar set, must be a manchildren thing

>>96298681
My deck was, and still is, a 7.

>>96299862
He would have been like mid 20's when Avatar released. So even then he was a manchild

>>96299660
>untap, upkeep, oh yeah, let me add a lore counter to my saga, draw for turn
This happens way too often with different people and I don't know why

>>96299870
I've known grown men who got into SpongeBob when it came out, I still don't get it. It's a cartoon for toddlers.

>>96299884
Spongebob puts in lots of shit for parents to laugh at

>>96295116
what's the combo here? just getting two extra turns?

>>96299854
There's no accounting for an individuals skill anon ^.^

>>96299870
>>96299884
>manchildren angry at other manchildses

>>96299474
>commander bundle
Whomstdve

>>96299474
>>96299984
starting to think final fantasy might be the last good UB we get for a long time. the only thing that could save UB would be an elden ring set

honestly wish WOTC ran commander like the guys who run leviathan commander. new bans, unbans every month, wild shit like changing the starting life total and commander damage. i don't understand why commander needs to be managed so carefully. who fucking cares. shake things up, ban things, unban things.
>>>B-B-BUT A CASUAL PLAYER WHO BUILT A DECK OUT OF CARDS IN HIS CLOSET MIGHT SHOW UP TO A GAME STORE AND FIND OUT HIS DECK IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE HE NEVER INTERACTS WITH THE GAME IN ANY WAY OUTSIDE OF HIS ONCE A MONTH TRIP TO THE LGS
shut the fuck up mark rosewater. shut the FUCK UP. YOU FAGGOT. that player DOESN'T EXIST. HE NEVER FUCKING EXISTED. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU FUCK YOUFUCKFUCOUFKCUFOCYOUFUCKYOU

>>96300073
>unbans and bans only every month
Should be every day, you casual.

>>96299657
Hes anti-footfag so don't feet about him, second-sucyfag.

>>96300082
sovl

>>96299984
Allegedly only trash like sol ring, arcane signet and command tower with avatar art in there with a couple of boosters and full art lands.

>>96299969
But me running cyclonic means they cannot compete

>like to paypig and buy commander precons and a booster set here or there
>absolutely no interest in Spider-Man and avatar
I would've bought a precon for each upcoming set if they had any, but hey, good for my wallet.

>>96300120
Neither were intended to be standard sets or anything more than assassin's creed sized so they didn't make precons.
Especially odd for avatar since it was perfect for 4 precons based off each nation

Can we fastforward to Lorwyn Eclipsed already? Need some gay elves

>>96300073
Those people 100% exist

>>96300150
need some more faeries

i think this is a sign to buy some packs

>>96300015
Monhun would be another good choice

>>96300073
I don't understand the ban on attractions. Stickers sure but attractions are pretty inoffensive cards.

>>96300239
It's just
>REEEE I HATE UNSETS

>>96300073
garbage

>>96298986
He wasn't fired and just isn't used because he is busy. Stop victimizing

>>96300249
nobody thinks you're a hardcore or better MTG player because you're of the opinion that there should be no bans. that's like, the very first opinion someone into this game develops. real wisdom comes at the end of the road when you realize that the banlist needs to be 4x as long

>>96300281
You lost me at "ban stickers and attractions"
so fucking OP bro

>>96300243
Figured. Unfinity flopped but I can't fathom caring about the handful of niche legal cards it added, especially when they're getting reprinted in precons.

>>96294762 (OP)
Non-EDH player here, I have a quick question for everybody in this thread, how has pic related been perceived in the context of EDH so far? Is he broken? Weak? How does it compare to Nadu?

>player does nothing for 5 turns
>wins on turn 11
what do you call this strategy?

>they have yet to deal with Myra attraction shenanigans

>>96300303
I played Maya attraction shenanigans. It's not ban worthy

>>96300300
Sculpting to perfection

>>96300294
He's cEDH tier, that means he's broken.

>>96300294
The same in standard where he got the means to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

>>96300303
>attraction player when hit with a vandalblast and knowing attractions can never be recurred
OHNONONONONONONO WAITWAITWAITWAIT

>>96300294
He's not anywhere approaching nadu, but he's an S tier commander for highest levels of play

>>96300294
Nadu is a different beast because he creates long non-deterministic turns that may not even win him the game and instead just occupy 45 minutes.

>>96300073
>The chargers, officer?

>>96300334
YOU WILL SIT ON THE TABLE AND WATCH ME DURDLE FOR 40 MINUTES AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

>>96300361
Real men play Dee Kay

Best two color combo for a literal craw wurm deck?
Not counting that one selesnya bitch.
Im talking about the merits of the guilds themselves

>>96300361
>the last line doesn't target
I thought this was auto-include secret tech for ivy but it's actually shit, same as the ticket fight spell

>>96300376
Gruul

>>96300197
What is this website? A booster pack opening simulator?

>>96300073
>>>>B-B-BUT A CASUAL PLAYER WHO BUILT A DECK OUT OF CARDS IN HIS CLOSET MIGHT SHOW UP TO A GAME STORE AND FIND OUT HIS DECK IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE HE NEVER INTERACTS WITH THE GAME IN ANY WAY OUTSIDE OF HIS ONCE A MONTH TRIP TO THE LGS
This was the EDH playerbase before the great FIRE migrations.

>>96299808
>I remember stuff like Teen Titans and Ben 10 being a way more popular cartoons than Avatar back in the day
I was 8 when ATLA started airing and it was definitely a cultural phenomena in my age group. I dunno the overlap with magic boomers, but ATLA is an S tier IP for zillenial nostalgia.

>>96300073
>that player DOESN'T EXIST. HE NEVER FUCKING EXISTED.
There are people RIGHT NOW saying brackets are too complicated.

>>96300073
>force commander to no longer be casual and force players to be uber competitive with monthly checking of bans and unbans and rule changes
Retarded opinion from a boring person who is a meta slave and needs to be forced to be "creative"

>

>>96300555
Primetime and maybe fast bond should never be unbanned, the rest I don't care that much about

>>96300555
Honestly with how fast the format is now, is Rofellos still banworthy? How can he be banned and Kinnan allowed to run free?

>>96300294
Nadu tier

>>96300073
What are you talking about those are the exact people they're trying to draw in with the constant UBs and Secret Lairs?

>>96300555
free sylvan primordial

>>96300579
>Just casually makes 39 mana turn 2

>>96300555
Blue got to have Thoracle and we can't even play our own Biorythm.

>>96300615

>>96300626
Not an argument

>>96300473
I've been playing edh for 2 years and I think I'm an intermediate player and I still don't know all banned cards by heart. One guy played this in a pod last week and nobody at the table knew it was banned. Maybe he didn't know either. I'm not even sure that he was maliciously trying to cheat.

>>96300585
I don't think Rofellos is strong enough to warrant a ban anymore. Adding mana for each forest is a legitimate gate for the card in an era with so many incredible utility lands and typeless duels. The cEDH Lumra deck couldn't play Rofellos even if it wanted to. I'm not convinced he's a better elfball commander than Marwyn but any elffags are free to chime in and tell me I'm wrong about that.

>>96300626
Sure buddy.

>>96300626
>thing might be bullshit
>Have you considered just having it?
Terrible.

>>96300473
>be in the top 0.5% of invested players
>getting assblasted because 99.5% of players are more casual than you
Lol

>>96300664
Did you mean to reply to the person I was replying to?

>>96300625
And bio is still not an automatically win either
>yeah but what if you do x, y and z
So dozens of other cards should be banned as well then.

>thinking about buying my first paper deck
>worried I will go to my LGS and have a horrible time, souring me from the experience forever
Overthinking everything in life is fun and cool

>>96300689
Just know where your deck is and try and play with people at a similar level. You'll likely not run into too many uber sweats who have CEDH level decks are precon tables

>>96300689
Just make sure that people actually play precons
>"yeah, man, I'm playing a precon too" pic related is his commander
>wait, what is this card? I have this precon too and I don't remember this card being in there
>oh, that? That's from another precon., So you know my deck is still a precon.

>>96300729
You should show up using demonic tutor, it's from a preconstructed duel deck (a precon)

>>96300729
This is why the bracket system was introduced anon. To provide vocabulary and metrics to balance tables according to relative power and budget.

There is nothing stopping someone from building a deck from non-precon cards that will play at level with precons. It is in fact pretty easy.

It's fine though if you want to play at tables with unmodified precons, it's just not mandatory.

>>96300743
He's deck was way stronger than a bracket 2, he was just lying.

>>96300702
I'm not really good at determining that sort of thing. Despite 0 game changers I'll probably shoot for bracket 3 first and if I get wrecked just scale it down.
I'm less worried about the 'game' and more so the people.

>

You play theft because you enjoy making people angry, I play theft to cuck people's waifu commanders. We are not the same.

>>96300750
I never played with that retard ever again obviously.

>>96300757
unban upheaval

>>96300750
Fair enough. Pubstompers get the boot.

>>96300751
Can always slap it into moxfield or archidekt and we could tell you.
>>96300758
I play theft because I like to watch everyone go "oooh, I get to steal?! yeah I wont attack you" while one player just keeps telling everyone to attack me anyway and is ignored

>>96300684
...yeah

Can I finally run devoted druid in a B3 deck

>>96300787
That's some pretty dope art

>>96300778
Only good thing was that he lost track of time and was hoping to catch the last bus to the last train to get home (I didn't know that, I normal try to remind people of that I was there with my car and laughed my way home. He walked back home.

>>96300799
Even in bracket 5 people don't know what Tayam is doing at any time of the game.

>>96300823
>only a 55 cent card
thank god, this fits my shitty deck

>get Avacyn casted out
>not even a turn passes and I get hit with Farewell
>mfw I forgot to leave mana up for Lapse of Certainty because I'm dumb as fuck

>>96295837
How likely are people to refuse to play against this? I kind of want to build it using famous old border creatures. Like a "Green's classic hits" deck

>>96300799
Devoted druid is one of those cards that just impossible to play fairly. Even if you try you'll just accidentally go infinite with it. Like trying to play gitrog fairly.

Are there any bracket 3 or 4 precons out there?

>>96300881
>3
yes. There are numerous that included gamechangers

>>96300891
Can I ask what those are here or find them listed somewhere? I really have no idea how to find out which ones are in which bracket

>>96300911
Sauron precon has a gamechanger in there but the deck is terrible

Is double sleeving a meme

>>96300911
There was one in karlov manor that had a jeska's will

>>96300919
Not at all, somebody spilled a drink once. All over the table. Some of his single sleeved cards got messed up, none of my double sleeved ones took a hit.

>>96300881
Pic related had an infinite outta the box

>>96300919
kinda but if your deck is expensive enough you should be doing it or at least proxying the expensive cards

>>96300937
Infinite aren't forbidden in bracket 2. Infinite combos enabled by only 2 cards are.

>>96300951
specifically, "early game" 2 card combos
eternal witness + dopplegang is a 2 card infinite combo but only if you have 17 lands

>>96297773
Have a few friends who are like this because they’re idiots who spend their paychecks as soon as they get them
>Proxy all the RL and expensive stuff to chuck into their decks
>Spaz out the one time I put a proxy Karn the Grear Creator into my deck despite having ordered him and was waiting for my actual copy to arrive
>It was the Bloomburrow Deku Tree version

>>96300073
>"I actually don't like playing Magic" - The banlist

>>96300951
Every reddit saffronolive loving fag hates "infinite combos" and not letting their deck "do the thing" and "boring storm decks that take 10 minute solitaire turns", yet all these fags tend to create these multicard quirky synergy value piles with a million triggers every turn, that takes them 10 minutes to get through and doesn't even win the game. If you use interaction on any of their key synergy pieces they get mad and say "you're going against the spirit of the format." If you play a battlecruiser beat down deck that beats their jankpile with combat damage, they accuse you of "pubstomping". You can't win with these types, unless you simply avoid playing them in the first place.

>>96297773
isnt winter orb only like 6 bucks

>>96298418
Can we add Underworld Breach to this list? Its only reason to exist is to be abused and break the game. I have never seen an example of it being ‘fairly’ used.

>>96300978
you described bracket 2

>>96300981
Some people just proxy cards to see how decks work before they buy them

>>96300073
i always wonder what the meta is like at stores with those long ass custom banlists

>>96300978
helllo everybody it's seth probablybetterknownassaffronolive and TODAY we are gonna play some... rakos? gruul? golgari? midrange COMBO?

>>96299808
All of my friendgroup are going all-in on it and SM. I remembered liking the cartoon as a kid but couldn’t get through more than 5 or 6 episodes when I tried to rewatch it during first-year uni back in 2015.
>My reaction to my friend’s spazzed-out reactions when I called the fire boy’s uncle his ‘butler’ because that’s how little I’d remembered of it
Some people just get way too invested into fictional media.

>>96301031
>Some people just get way too invested into fictional media
Lol the irony of even saying that on this board is beyond peak

>>96301038
retard

>>96300978
"Infinite combos" can be really gay and lame instant "I win the game combos" like the Bloody or walking balista are just stupid especially when someone turn tutors and 4-5's them. Infinite turns is also just really annoying and I always say play it out just to fuck with tivit players. But infinite ficker into cascade can be really funny especially if they don't have haste and the next player board wipes. It really depends I've seen people go infinite with turns and literally have no way to win or get infinite mana with zero pay offs Especially when it's baby's first infinite.

>>96300981
Do you own every card that just 6 bucks? Good for you. It's just 6 bucks after all. Oh wait, that's not how math works.

I want a UB set based on New York™ Times Best Seller® Cradle instead

>>96300073
Just bring my zesty elf back. That's all I ask.

>>96300294
Only reason I built him was I pulled him at the pre-release. Even when I tried to make a Bracket 4 deck based solely on ‘do thing, draw card(s)’ he still left my friends anally devastated. Plus they all hate Japanese stuff so the seething was the cherry on top and is alright to me.

what are the most competitive precons out there?

>>96301046
>no haste
Reminds of a giga autist
>somehow infinite mana and draw
>turn would take 30 minutes at least, can't kill all of you at once, so let me do my thing and I'll pass
You're kidding me, right?
One guy tried to do this in monogreen and he didn't have anything that would give his creatures haste and he wanted to play it out, all 3 of us just scooped and started a new game without him. All pods were full and he was mad as hell.

Redpill me on etched foils. Worth?

>>96301096
Personally they're my favorite type of foil

>>96301046
>instead of realizing they've won and shuffling up to play a new game you force yourself and two strangers to watch someone play solitaire for 15 minutes to prove they've won
Autism.

>>96301079
my personal beliefs are go infinite if you can win that turn and know you can. Otherwise don't be THAT guy who sits there remembering triggers and plays out a hour long turn cause you looked up a shitty combo deck and thought it would be soooo cool to play

>>96301078
Modern horizons 3, 40k and LOTR have some really strong ones right out of the box.

>>96301101
I've heard they don't curl due to just using metallic ink, which I like the sound of.

>>96301117
Yeah I've only ever seen a pringled etched foil after it was left in a box with a bunch of pringled normal foils (happened to me). Otherwise they're pretty much completely flat and I've never seen them be weird.

also, is the other guy with a Tidus deck around? I stopped by my LGS and grabbed some stuff, and I took some stuff out of my binders.

God I can not STAND FUCKING NIGGERS

Foils are epic and I'm tired of pretending they're not. Shiny cardboard satisfies my autism. I've managed to 100% foil out a cedh deck and it goes hard.
>NYOOO BUT... LET CURLING!!!
Leave them packed in a tight fitting deckbox and the problem solves itself.

>>96301111
Thank you for the answer, do you know which ones specifically?

>>96301142
>grabbed some stuff, and I took some stuff out of my binders.
post it

>>96301164
Left side is stuff from binders, right side is stuff I got from my LGS today

>>96301102
The was quirky synergy value pile spirit of edh player usually refuses to stop. They just want endless turns where they durdle while not doing anything to win, because trying to win "defeats the spirit of the format"

>>96301149
>he thinks he can just mash curled foils back into shape
I won't tell you why it happens and how to actually fix it.

>>96301216
My deck is flat as fuck from leaving it in a deckbox. Double sleeved of course, gotta protect my 50 cent foil lands

>>96301189
>>96301164
These were things I already have too

>be me at Pokemon LGS looking for mtg gems
>see surge foil yuna, hope of spire for sale for $40
>holy shit ok, yoink
>pull out of binder
>mega balding millennial autist next to me that doesn't understand personal space sees what I pull out
>"HOLY SHIT DUDE THAT SHOULDN'T BE $40 STORE OWNER!!!!"
>Store owner who doesn't really sell magic comes over looks up price asks if I will pay $300
>no *sigh*
bruh I just wanted store credit at my main magic store and get 2 EOE booster boxes for $40

>>96301257
shoulda waited for him in the parking lot and robbed him

>>96301189
>Spike Weaver
My yn.
I fucking love Bant.

>>96301267
dude I was so pissed on the inside a part of me thinks he saw it too and couldn't afford the $40 so if he couldn't get it no one could

>>96301287
yeah there's no way they'd have bought it and fucked up the pricing so it was definitely cracked from a pack by an employee, no idea why people white knight for businesses they have no stake in

>>96301281
This is my first time building a bant deck and +1/+1 counters has such an incredibly large amount of support that I have no idea what to be using/cutting lmao
Here's the actual list as is
https://archidekt.com/decks/14535204/lets_blitz

>>96301078
Explorers of the Deep is bullshit

>>96301257
If the store owner didn't honor the price he had his product displayed as and suddenly upcharged me because of their own ignorance I would've both wrote off that LGS forever and slapped the fuck out of that faggot for mouthing off.

>>96301303
stores that mainly sell pokemon is the best place to get cheap ass magic cards I once bought 2 polluted deltas and a couple of shocks for 50 cents a piece searching through a stores bulks box of magic they didn't know what to do with

I always wanted to build a life-gain win/aristocratic deck with this woman, but never could find the card for trade or at a LGS. I figured I'll just order it online. Viable?

>>96301257
>see a guy who asks other people all the time if they want to trade cards, who sells cards, do you want to buy his cards?
>one guy finally bites
>so how much you want for this?
>pulls out his phone and just looks up what this card is going for
>other guy didn't buy it
I think he's trying to sell bootlegs

>>96301318
Looks like a fun deck, anon.

>>96301354
>I wanted to build the more boring and over done garbage you could do in orzhov
What's next? Boros equipment? Izzet spell slinger?
Daring

>>96301354
She's a life swap commander usually.

Today we're playing boros polymorph.

>>96301384
So far it is, I'm considering how to upgrade while keeping the general flavor and not slanting far too hard into a single color

>>96301375
I mean that can always be the case but this was a Pokemon store that basically made all its money off pokemon the magic binder was tiny and had basically a random assortment of random 1-10 dollar cards from the past 4 sets and the back had all the higher priced stuff I think it really was employee opened and listed as regular foil not surge foil

>>96301385
>>96301392
Well I really like her ability to never go to the command zone, and would like to figure out a way to have her win with commander damage.

>>96299926
Not really, you manchild.

>>96297267
>UB is an unskippable ad
Damn. You took the words right out of my mouth.

>>96299926
Post examples.

What's the difference between poop, niggers and UB?
Nothing.

>>96301433
You could just run her as angel tribal. Angels have a lot of ways to buff each other up once your life total is high enough.

>>96301455
I prefer unskippable ads for knock off shit just like you do.

>>96301473
The entire episode Squeaky Boots is riddled with references to the telltale heart.

>>96301482
And as an adult I'm supposed to laugh and clap at le heckin reference because it's thing I recognize?

>>96301490
...are you retarded? turn the brainrot off, zoomie.

>>96301490
It's okay to watch sponge bob as an adult, because... it just is, OKAY?

>>96301500
>>96301490
>it's not okay to enjoy things
only on 4chan/reddit can you find an opinion this bad

>>96301494
You certainly are retarded because you watch SpongeBob and defend it

>>96301507
I also watch the teletubbies every day and everyone else who correctly calls me a manchild just hates fun.

>>96301410
>not slanting far too hard into a single color
Green is going to dominate any +1/+1 counter deck.

Putting even a single UB card into your deck is like having a nigger fuck your wife or daughter. Tainted, and ruined forever and you must start over for a pure and happy game and life.

>>96301521
Why would I care who my daughter fucks provided they are safe/happy?

>>96301523
If they are fucking niggers they are neither, and neither is your deck. Tainted. Ruined.

>>96301527
You have a mental illness.

>>96301531
I speak the truth. Burn your tainted deck.

>>96301556

>>96301563
creatures

>>96301563
Well that was embarrassing, I always forget it's only creatures.

>>96301563
Ummmmm

>>96301563
>>96301556

>>96301570
and opponents', so you still can't double your own counters.

Just realized that Priest adds mana for all the elves on the battlefield not just under my control.

>>96301586
for me it's gempalm polluter

>>96301521
>>96301527
>>96301545
UW is full of niggers btw
>>96297473

what bracket 2 decks do you guys enjoy playing the most?

>>96301494
>>96301507
I asked you to post some examples of le heckin based cartoonerino portraying humor for adults to laugh at. The response was "muh heckin references". Saying that not finding references is Reddit brainrot is a startling lack of self awareness of on your part since reference/nostalgia "humor" where the joke is just the reminder that thing exists/existed is peak Reddit.
>zomg le funneh cartoon just showed a character dressed up like someone IRL! I recognise thing that some kid who wasn't even alive when that person existed doesn't! I'm clapping!
Sorry you got butthurt over your infantile sense of humor you claim is for adults getting mocked but memberberries and nostalgia fagging humor is fucking trash. It was trash 25 years ago when Family Guy built a show off it and it's even more trash today. And any cringe Redditor using the inclusion of it to justify watching children's cartoons needs to grow the fuck up. There's nothing "brainrot" about finding unfunny zero effort jokes unfunny.

>>96301645
the abzan precon from tarkir

>IF YOU USE UB YOU ARE BASICALLY A KEKOLD WHO WORSHIPS MINORITY I HATE AND FANTASIZES ABOUT SAID MINORITY DOMINATING YOUR WOMEN

Meanwhile, back within the MTG universe...

>the more I complain and seethe the bigger my penis is

>>96301480
The fuck? I prefer no ads, like literally every sane person ever.

Finally getting around to my backlog, feels good.

>>96301646
jokes on you i only watch children's cartoons that are so timeless even chinks can understand them

>>96301216
Moisture, yeah? A really small silica gel pack shoved into a box with them should get them flatter than an Irish ass after a bit of time

>>96301663

>>96301646
Ah I remember desperately trying to appear grown up

>>96301779
The fact you're still seething about (rightly) being called an infant for watching children's cartoons doesn't give you much ground to stand on there anon

>>96301771

>>96301789
>Jump giant walls of texts about something incredibly pointless
>Accuse other people of seething
Your daily metlies are no longer entertaining.

Abaddon or Saruman

>>96301789
Anon i just showed up. I watch what I want and have never once concerned myself with what people think about it, as I am a man.

>>96301771
fug u got me an azn and kang asking a kween for her autograph is way more of a British Broadcasting Corporation fetishoid symbol than a hyper masculine domineering kang getting doted on by 4 scrawny mayofaces with the women rolling his protection on with loving stares while the Timmies literally kneel before him handling his sword and ensuring its ready to go

ur right fren uw is for based 1488 manly christ fearing men and ub is for sissyhypno mindbroken kultmarx redditors you proved it

>>96301815
>26 words is a wall of text
>he HAD to reply
>buzzword
>"I'm not seething!"

Once again, the lack of self awareness is far more humorous than anything in your manchild cartoons. Grow up lmao.

>>96301841
I've read the thread.
I know, it's mind boggling that people can scroll up and see pattern recognition.
Adults don't whine endlessly about how much more adult they are than others.

>hexproof from instants

nigger fatigue is real.

Elenda is latina btw

>>96301852
>i read the thread

I guess you're just dumb then. Let me TLDR it for you in a wall of text you TOTALLY won't read

>cringe anon: "I watch cartoons because it's okay because they're made for children and adults with adult humor"
>me: "Example?"
>CA: "Reference humor."
>me: "That's neither funny nor humorous to actual adults."
>CA and other triggered machildren: "MELTY! WALL OF TEXTING! YOU'RE HUMORLESS! REDDITOR! BUZZWORDS! ASCHUALLY YOU'RE THE MANCHILD! I'M GOING TO REPLY TO EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS BECAUSE IM NOT A SEETHING MANCHILD!"
>me: "lol grow up"

I'm moving on though, feel free to keep seething and throwing (You)s at me I'm not going to bother reading lol

>>96301887
Yeah, sure showed us you really aren't the one seething.
Didn't even read btw, I care not for the whimperings of children.

The future of MtG is 5 UB sets a year with 1 in-universe set focused on Ugin and Bolas having gay sex while Kaya and Niko use their empowerment to dunk on Jace.

>>96301476
Interesting. I'll look into it.

>>96301887
>"That's neither funny nor humorous to actual adults."
you could've fooled me since it's one of the most popular types of humor

>>96301556
Nice. This was one of my wincons in my old Jenara wall deck.
>abuse Reveillark, Karmic Guide, Saffi combo with a sac outlet
>get infinite mana
>win
>or blasting station everyone
>tutors, blink on ETB walls, counters

It was pretty fun and resilient and non threatening back in the day. Nobody attacked the wall deck.

>>96301864
Wait until the next Lorwyn, when the whole elf race war is dropped with zero mention and all the elves and faeries got fros.

Has there ever been a misspelling or grammar error on a magic card?

>>96301925

>>96301925

>>96301925
Lots

>>96301925

>>96301925
Like 5 just from EoE

>>96301929
>>96301935
I can't find them. Chat, is this me?

>>96301925
>>96301944
I guess it depends on what you mean by "grammar error."
>>96301935 has a misspelling, but >>96301929 is grammatically correct in explaining something different than intended.

>>96301935
It's funny imagining that they still type the letters one by one instead of having a ready made template.

>>96301950
Ok

>>96301929
its instead of it's?

>>96301935
Oh I see it now. Legenday.

>>96301971
Good point. I wonder if it has something to do with the long type description.

>>96301935
Maybe it's just meant to be a really good day

>>96301977
>its instead of it's?
it's supposed to say "Target creature you control" in the first line.

>>96301971
MSE has dropdowns, but you can also type things in manually. maybe one guy has a weird workflow?

Are cluelands good for cluedeck? I assume so since before your turn starts you can use them to burn any unspent mana to get more clues

>>96302003
I guess, but they cost too much for a single tokem

>>96302003
I tried running them in Galazeth and used them a total of 0 times because 4 mana + tap the land is too much for one clue.

>>96302003
yes

>>96302080
>>96302080
>>96302080

>>96301833
Based Mark Poole insisted on drawing his wife (irl) on a card.

>>96300073
>all these non-basics
>still ban back to basics
retards