Thread 96295963

Where the whole scifi / fantasy aesthetics started to became so... well, like picrel?
I get that people want to experiment with new forms, styles and sizes, but in those scifi / fan settings humans still are and act like IRL ones, so why not their stuff too?

>>96295963 (OP)
real styles were born out of both necessity and practicality and the weird shit in life was made by experimentation that may have worked or may have been throwing shit at the wall
fiction has artistic license to be within a margin of error of reality based on assumptions. it apes what it likes from reality and innovates or discards the rest. it's not because they necessarily hate the real and accurate depiction, but because in their works, in most cases the veracity of the depiction matters less than the implementation of it
neither are wrong, but the enthusiasts of each will never rest easy with each other unless they can appreciate the differences

>>96295963 (OP)
Fantasy drip (if one right) is recognizable and can be connected to a IP. Look at a Warcraft footmen, a Nilfgaard Soldier, a house Lannister men at arms or a Skyrim City Guard and you know immediatly what setting you´re in. Now try the same with realistic armor. You simply cant

>>96295963 (OP)
>like picrel?
Meaning what? Go on, use your words.

>>96295963 (OP)
Artists need to have a working knowledge of real world armour/vehicles/combat or things start to suffer from chinese whisperfication.

>>96295963 (OP)
When your taste became really shitty and you started consuming the lowest effort scifi and fantasy that the world has to offer.

Read a book. What you're posing isn't a real problem except with media geared towards 15 year-old boys. And teenage boys are pretty stupid, what do you want?

>>96296119
>except with media geared towards 15 year-old boys.
There is no media geared towards 15 year-old boys now. It's all geared towards troons and brown fags.

>>96296023
Excuse me, the left side of it, the Space Marine.

Yeah? and?

>>96296119
Midwit the post

You know what he is talking about. You are just being a retard because you are a contrarian asshole who wants to seem superior by shutting down someone voicing their displeasure.

>>96296127
Oh god you're one of those people. Shoulda guessed.

>>96296167
>You know what he is talking about.
I absolutely do: videogames, toys, cartoons and films with so much cgi that they might as well be cartoons.

All of which are banking on their sales to adolescent boys because they have no substance behind them. Like better things. Simple as.

>>96296172
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>>96296041

>>96296205
No idea why you think that's relevant. Largest customer demo for GW is middle-aged women. It's sure as hell not because they're buying the toys for themselves.

>>96296210
>Largest customer demo for GW is middle-aged women
You sure about that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfYy_BEQ8oU

>>96296008
I can see a Nilfgaard soldier IRL, I can't with the Warfract footman nor Fallout's power armor nor Nilfgaard's "scrotum" armor, for example.
I'm in favor of bringing something fresh, iconic, but at least believable, the SM having shoulder pads with the size of a fat kid is not very believable nor practical and becomes ugly, suspesion of belief is not limitless.

>>96296041
>chinese whisperfication
To be fair, I think that is fault of 70s/80s Hollywood, just check Conan's, Gordon Flash's armors and customs, etc.

>>96296233
>the SM having shoulder pads with the size of a fat kid is not very believable nor practical
Protecting the power systems underneath the main shell would be fairly important. Applying medieval armor design philosophies to power armor with extensive electrical systems doesn't make sense, because you now have two layers to protect: the person and the electrical system. With medieval armor, you just have to protect the person.

Also, the Warcraft infantry looks the way it does in other to have a simple silhouette. That matters in a top-down RTS, and you have to consider the needs of the gameplay as well as aesthetics.

>>96296143
And? What about the space marine do you find objectionable?

>>96296233
>the SM having shoulder pads with the size of a fat kid is not very believable nor practical
It's incredibly practical, and you'd know this if you'd ever experienced the design for what it was intended: painting miniatures.

>>96296335
Why are you even here?

>>96296460
Trying to understand what OP is whining about.

>>96295963 (OP)
God Phobos armor is such gay tryhard garbage. Only saving grace is the Infiltrator helmet.

>>96296562
It’s fine stop complaining

>>96296262
>>96296364
Don't get me wrong, I get the point about RTS and miniatures, my issue is when you portray that in shows, films (like Stormwind soldiers in the Warcraft movie), first / third person games (I should have clarified that, my apologies).

>>96296562
Wrong.

>>96296143
You still haven't said shit. Cobble a thought together, piglet.

>>96299324
Wrong in every single detail. Enjoy prison, stalker. You. Will.

>>96298954
>my issue is when you portray that in shows, films (like Stormwind soldiers in the Warcraft movie), first / third person games
If you're adapting an IP to a new medium, you want to maintain its visual identity for the same reasons you want to maintain the identities of its setting and characters.
It's different for original IPs, but those have their own quirks as well (look at Star Wars or TES for film/RPG examples).

>>96299620
>If you're adapting an IP to a new medium, you want to maintain its visual identity
I agree, but not at the cost of utility and logic. I think the Stormwind soldier in the movie could have worked perfectly without having the proportions of the game.

>>96296562
Anon this is 40k. Everything about it has some tryhardish units. Including the Guard.
Especially the Guard.

>>96296364
>It's incredibly practical, and you'd know this if you'd ever experienced the design for what it was intended: painting miniatures.
instructions unclear, painted dwarves.

>>96295963 (OP)
To be fair, 40K only looks like that in the big propaganda shots where you don't see the vibrant blue smurf suit get drenched in mud and shit until it looks like a subaru after breakup season. That they are depicted at their peak is itself a rather humanistic intention.

>>96296233
The Warcraft armor suit isn't the most wieldy, but to say it can't be done IRL is reaching when the only thing weird about it are the funky shoulder pads.

>>96301178
Seems strange to have that split in the middle of the chest. Did any armors do that historically?

I'm a big fan of OR trooper armor, personally and not a big armor guy usually. Anyone know what's wrong with it? Aside from being useless against blasters, I mean design wise

>>96295963 (OP)
what are you complaining about OP? both of those look fine?

>>96298954
I still have no fucking idea what you think looks wrong with the space marine. You just want it to not look recognisably like a space marine in artwork for some fucking reason?

>>96301999
The SM looks little weird.

>>96301178
Honestly, both the body armor and the helmet are lame.
The amcient greek armor looks cooler and fits better despite ancient greeks didn't have the technology (magic) nor resources of the Human Kingdoms from Warcraft.

>>96301228
>Anyone know what's wrong with it?
1. The helmet has the same sad smile as the rest of stormtroopers, because in 3000 years they couldn't come with s better design.

2. The gap between the shoulder pads and the pectoral armor is kinda dangerous.

3. The areas of neck and gut being unprotected.

4. Having sunvisors in space, in a space station.

5. The weird shape of the helmer and how the area of the "eyes" looks like a Hitler's mustache.

>>96295963 (OP)
>but in those scifi / fan settings humans still are and act like IRL ones, so why not their stuff too?
Because its satisfying when your whole army has an exaggerated cohesive theme.