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Cosmere RPG
The Stormlight books were released a couple weeks ago, what does /tg/ think of the game so far?
Anonymous No.96303319 [Report]
Probably pretty much the same as when you made this thread last week.
Anonymous No.96303334 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
Didn't read the books so I didn't give a shit about the RPG that is more likely a 5e heartbreaker. I don't give a shit if it isn't a heartbreaker either, I got loads of RPGs and systems and settings already, I'm not making space in my house or my mind for another god damn system that won't get played outside of a one off sitting because nobody else wants to read the rules either.

That's what I think.
Feel free to think differently.
Anonymous No.96303443 [Report] >>96303626
>>96303302 (OP)
Never played it, what's the gimmick for this book?
Anonymous No.96303626 [Report] >>96304009 >>96304021 >>96427094
>>96303443
Some author I don't know called Brandon Sanderson got on the OGL scandal and made a RPG the main gimmick I saw you can add a d6 plot die to rolls with 1-2 being a complication and 5-6 being a bonus
Anonymous No.96303848 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
The stuff I saw at GenCon makes the whole system seem very cool on a mechanics level, but since I haven't read a single Stormlight book and don't plan on doing so anytime soon, I can't see myself investing in this game at all. None of my friends/players are Stormlight readers either, so I guess we're waiting until the Mistborn material starts coming out.
Anonymous No.96303906 [Report] >>96310827 >>96313772
>>96303302 (OP)
My group has 2 people who are long time sanderson fans, so we've been playing through the adventure path for a few sessions.

So far, it seems...fine? Combat feels a bit more interesting than 5e, but it does suffer from each character largely doing the same routine each turn. The game's initiative system where you choose fast or slow turn and get 2 or 3 actions respectively sounds nice on paper but the damage output of both PCs and NPCs is high enough that PCs almost always go fast each turn besides maybe the first to remove enemy action economy via dropping enemies (or at least get their actions out before they get dropped). Oh, and you are basically expected to max your combat attribute (strength or speed) if you want to be useful because your total modifier is also your damage modifier, and you probably want the other combat attribute if you want your AC equivalent to be remotely up to snuff (because Phys AC = Str+Speed).

Outside of combat, the game works well enough. The plot dice mechanic is optionally brought in by the GM (or the rolling player with certain talents) so you don't suffer the same problem that you do in other games with complications where you get oversaturated with dice mandated plot events every time you do the most trivial roll. Skills are basically fine, although it does suffer from the problem where you can't really be very good at a skill without having appropriate attribute investment, which pigeon holes characters into specific niches. This is especially a problem because fundamental character statistics are derived from attributes so character builds become fairly pigeon holed if you want to fully cover your niche.

We only just had someone complete their first ideal, so I can't speak to the mechanics of the magic system besides that the free health regen every turn seems very strong at low levels.
Anonymous No.96304009 [Report]
>>96303626
Thank you for your concise answer, anon. Guess it's nothing too special then.
Anonymous No.96304021 [Report] >>96305972
>>96303626
Thanks for the concise answer, anon. Guess I'll ask my friends if any of them care about Mistborn then.
Anonymous No.96304045 [Report]
I heard they were going to release a setting neutral version of the game, waiting for that.
Anonymous No.96304097 [Report] >>96509671
>>96303302 (OP)
It's genuinely pretty great in my view. It's a really well-considered amalgam of a lot of d20 design that takes a lot of the best bits of other games, understands what does and doesn't work about them, and then manages to put them together in a way that leverages those strengths and downplays those weaknesses. It doesn't totally remove said weaknesses in some cases but it does ameliorate them.

It's got Pathfinder 2e's 3 action point system, but streamlined to remove some of the excess complication. It's got Shadow of the Demon Lords fast/slow initiative system but has you lose 1 action point to go fast, which helps give going first more of a cost to avoid it being quite as much of a de facto once engaged. It's got the FFG Star Wars class trees, but now as a classless system and has better groups talents together for specialisations within a class. It's still doing D&D's 6 attributes but drops CON and rolls it into STR, gives each stat a bonus outside of the mod, makes the ratings just 0-5, and has what would be Fortitude/Reflex/Will as a combination of two stats and makes those work as three kinds of AC. Armor is also DR here rather than AC. It's also got 4e style skill challenges, FitD style Clocks, ways to push rolls for more risk/word, and a special kind of d6 to add more weight to rolls that are important. Then a load of little nice touches, and more of an emphasis on some narrative stuff that stop it being nothing but a combat sim. The Stormlight setting is also well done here IMO so it's got more interesting magic and items than d20 games tend to have, and the art is all great.

It's not perfect and there are a couple of bits I'm not in love with. I don't like how it's grid-based but tells you grids are a variant, I think shields are not particularly designed well, they use D&D's advantage and while it's a lot better here it's still advantage. Stuff like that. Nothing that gets in the way of it being great, but it's not without blemishes.
Anonymous No.96305373 [Report] >>96464254
BUY. AN. AD.
Anonymous No.96305507 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
Would anyone here be interested in RPGs for any of Brandon Sanderson’s other properties? I know that I wouldn’t say no to a Reckoners game, and it would be interesting to see how a Rithmatist RPG would work. Fun fact actually, The Rithmatist was originally meant to be a Cosmere book, so we might have gotten an installment for it in the Cosmere RPG eventually.
Anonymous No.96305972 [Report]
>>96304021
Mistborn is good. Same core system, but some different class options, different magic, different gear. All of it is solid from the playtest.
Anonymous No.96306028 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
Meh. The rules look like someone actually put some time coming up with a 'better' 5e. As for the setting, I'm not a teenager nor a woman so idc about it.
Anonymous No.96306051 [Report] >>96310725 >>96310849 >>96325469 >>96330528 >>96332036 >>96360558 >>96404765 >>96405428
>>96303302 (OP)
Which Knights Radiant Order(s) do you like best/prefer to play as and why? For me it’s probably Lightweaver, I like illusions and using one’s art to their advantage.
Anonymous No.96307406 [Report] >>96307743 >>96315204
>>96303302 (OP)
left-wing nutjobs (sanderson) and popular fantasy slop series that are pumped out in the dozens and dozens by someone almost certainly employing talentless ghostwriters, zero appeal nowadays.
Anonymous No.96307743 [Report] >>96315204
>>96307406
You're going to summon retards posting how is a non-practising Mormon and that gives him a pass.
Anonymous No.96310725 [Report] >>96330443
>>96306051
Truthwatcher for me. I want to bond a corrupted spren.
Anonymous No.96310827 [Report]
>>96303906
>you don't suffer the same problem that you do in other games with complications where you get oversaturated with dice mandated plot events every time you do the most trivial roll

If a thing is trivial, is it worth rolling for? :p
Anonymous No.96310849 [Report] >>96310861 >>96313797
>>96306051
God dammit I hate the fucking glyphs. They're so ugly, I genuinely don't understand how people are so obsessed with these stylized squiggles.

Anyway, is it viable to play a non-radiant character in these rules?
Anonymous No.96310861 [Report]
>>96310849
Yep, heroic paths are also very good.
Anonymous No.96313772 [Report]
>>96303906
>Skills are basically fine, although it does suffer from the problem where you can't really be very good at a skill without having appropriate attribute investment, which pigeon holes characters into specific niches.
I feel like the attribute/stat caps do a pretty good job of mitigating that issue. Sure, you do want to invest in that one attribute if the skill is going be your main thing, but you have enough starting points to start with up to 4 attributes at cap
Anonymous No.96313797 [Report]
>>96310849
>They're so ugly, I genuinely don't understand how people are so obsessed with these stylized squiggles.
One of my players put it: Emoji language for metal album art font
Anonymous No.96315204 [Report] >>96392812 >>96477597
>>96307406
Everyone I don't like is a left-wing nutjob! The emotional child's guide to /pol/itical discussion.

>>96307743
>You're going to summon retards posting how is a non-practising Mormon and that gives him a pass.
He's a practicing Mormon and serves as a gospel doctrine teacher at his church. I get that you guys just love lying and hate truth, but could you do it somewhere else?
Anonymous No.96315631 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
I don't think I'll be able to pull my friends in until I get the physical books. PDFs can only go so far to engage people.
Anonymous No.96315915 [Report] >>96318707
>>96303302 (OP)
I heavily prejudged it because nobody seems enthused about the mechanics. It's just a Brandon Sanderson vehicle without really anything interesting going on.
If you like Brandon Sanderson, play it, I guess.
If you don't like Brandon Sanderson or don't care one way or another, it's obviously a massive waste of time.
It's just a gimicky licensed product from a low-tier dork celebrity, at the end of the day. If you're already in his fan base, buy it and support him.
Personally, I think he's a blowhard who produces low-brow slop for band kid idiots, so I'm not playing this shit.
Simple as.
Anonymous No.96316136 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
I'm actually pretty hopeful for it, and I'm looking to start a game to try it out, but it's not really anything but a 5e alternative. It's a 5e alternative that's WAY better than all the other dogshit 5e conversions I've seen out there, though, and that makes me hope that it'll manage to displace 5e as the primary conversion slop.
Anonymous No.96318707 [Report]
>>96315915
I like the mechanics. It feels like what people think 5e as a simple modern d20 everything system. I'm actually working on adapting it for my own setting separate from cosmere.
Anonymous No.96319493 [Report] >>96321639 >>96321860 >>96321929 >>96321937
I read the first Mistborn book out of curiousity and I get the impression that Sanderson is popular because he's writing with autists in mind.

I mean, he goes into depth and explains how the magic works to a level I've never seen another fantasy author attempt. He writes multiple books a year which appeals to the binge-consumption nerds(they'll never have to be social and speculate with other fans or try other authors). And he beats you over the head with morals and themes of the story. EG in Mistborn the mentor character tells the heroine that he wishes he and his wife had a daughter like her 3 times. Most authors would have just let that be obvious subtext.
Anonymous No.96321639 [Report] >>96321710 >>96321742
>>96319493
>they'll never have to speculate
Cosmere is actually one of the more heavily-speculated series, and it's actually encouraged. Sanderson regularly takes time in public appearances and liveshows to answer people's highly-technical inter-magic-system theoreticals
Anonymous No.96321710 [Report] >>96323579
>>96321639
Doesn't Dragonsteel also have its own convention?
Anonymous No.96321742 [Report]
>>96321639
>Sanderson regularly takes time in public appearances and liveshows to answer people's highly-technical inter-magic-system theoreticals
And if it's anything he was planning or wants to steal, it gets an Read And Find Out, which is like 90% of the interesting stuff.
Anonymous No.96321860 [Report] >>96337409
>>96319493
>I mean, he goes into depth and explains how the magic works to a level I've never seen another fantasy author attempt.
I'm not sure that's even true. Fucking Wheel of Time wastes even more of the reader's time on asinine magic system lectures, except even after hundreds of pages the One Power remains as much handwavy magical mumbo-jumbo as it starts out in Book 1. The fucking woof dream realm shit is infinitely easier to wrap your head around with a fraction of the autism dumps.

So it's time that's just kinda wasted.
Anonymous No.96321929 [Report]
>>96319493
>I mean, he goes into depth and explains how the magic works
It does tend to all be pretty relevant though. Both in terms of plots stuff and more general "what the fuck was that bullshit".
Anonymous No.96321937 [Report]
>>96319493
>I mean, he goes into depth and explains how the magic works
It does tend to all be pretty relevant though. Both in terms of plots stuff and more general "what the fuck was that bullshit". It's great for an RPG too, lots to work with there and shit like D&D goes into way more detail than Mistborn or whatever does too.
Anonymous No.96323579 [Report]
>>96321710
>Doesn't Dragonsteel also have its own convention?
Really, it does?
Anonymous No.96325469 [Report] >>96326333 >>96328179
>>96306051
Imagine being a normal Skybreaker
>your entire order is powered by sheer, unbridled lawtism and retardation
>your spren is an autistic cunt hated even by the others sprens
Anonymous No.96326333 [Report]
>>96325469
>your spren is an autistic cunt hated even by the others sprens
There seems to be a lot of animosity between the different types. Syl also dislikes Cryptics.
Anonymous No.96328179 [Report]
>>96325469
And what’s up with their names? Seriously, just random numbers?
Anonymous No.96330443 [Report]
>>96310725
Sounds based to me! What specifically is your reason for that?
Anonymous No.96330528 [Report] >>96335512
>>96306051
For me, it's Elsecaller. Soulcasting is the coolest magic, though Elsecalling itself seems like a niche ability. Inkspren come off as total bros, at least the one we see that's willing to bond a human.
Anonymous No.96331086 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
I wouldn't think of games that has browns on the cover, honestly. Why would anyone?
Anonymous No.96332036 [Report] >>96333790
>>96306051
I think Lightweaver oaths are pretty engaging and cool, but personally Truthwatcher, the non-corrupted one. Healing hands, but also messing with plants in general, and illusions are a fun power to have in a limited world like this. Soulcasting is also really cool, but I think Soulcasting and Illumination together can be a touch boring.

If I had to pick something to personally challenge myself, though, Dustbringer. No idea what the regular spren are for either order, but I think they'd be pretty cool.
Anonymous No.96333790 [Report] >>96336501
>>96332036
>No idea what the regular spren are for either order, but I think they'd be pretty cool.
What do you mean, the books clearly explains the types of spren for each order and what they look like, along with other kinds of non-sapient spren.
Anonymous No.96335512 [Report]
>>96330528
Elsecalling hasn't really been seen on-screen except for Jasnah returning from Shadesmar at the end of Words of Radiance. I like the half-slip into Shadesmar dodge the game adds, but as a low level player it's a one way trip that requires a hoof back to the nearest perpendicularity to return to the Physical Realm.
Anonymous No.96336501 [Report]
>>96333790
Oh, that in the books we haven't gotten a super clear example of what mistspren culture really looks like. We've seen them on ships, and the blurbs in the book talk about them being curious and interested in new perspectives- but a paragraph long blurb doesn't really let you get to know someone as a person. Same for ashspren.
Anonymous No.96337409 [Report]
>>96321860
>even after hundreds of pages the One Power remains as much handwavy magical mumbo-jumbo as it starts out in Book 1
The problem is no matter what info the author gives on the magic, there's no way to exploit it were you given a character. Cosmere magic systems in general seem to be designed to be side-compatible in such a way that someone with Gold Fercuchemy and any of the Knights Radiant orders should have a near infinite source of healing without the genetic impossibility of being a gold compounding twinborn or the soul damaging aspect of one or two hemalurgic spikes.
Anonymous No.96339427 [Report] >>96341453
My group played Bridge Nine a little while ago when that came out and we liked the mechanics, especially the raise the stakes bit. We're likely going to play Stonewalkers when our current campaign wraps up, which should be fun. Some of us have read the Stormlight books and some haven't read any, but those that haven't read much at all got into the world when we played Bridge Nine to test it.
Anonymous No.96341453 [Report] >>96343447 >>96343618
>>96339427
If the thread is still up by then, please let us know how that goes.
Anonymous No.96341844 [Report] >>96343028
>>96303302 (OP)
I hear that the Stormlight physical books are shipping soon, did you order them? And what are your hopes for the Mistborn books?
Anonymous No.96343028 [Report] >>96345545
>>96341844
>10 week shipping
ouch
Anonymous No.96343447 [Report]
>>96341453
Will do, friend.
Anonymous No.96343618 [Report]
>>96341453
nta, but I've been running Stonewalkers with a group of one person who's read all the books, two people who read mistborn era 1 and way of kings in preparation, and one person who hasn't read anything. The first two sessions were slow from running the pseudo-character-builder The First Step that leads into it, but the first session fully using the module has been fairly snappy, with it looking like we'll be ending chapter 1 next session.
The thing that stood out to me the most is how quick combat is. Once players know what they're doing, rounds go really quick, and combat time is about half of what it would be for something like 5e
Anonymous No.96343935 [Report]
I'm finally running Stonewalkers this coming Friday. I've got one player in another time zone, so we're playing hybrid: 4 players and me at my house and one player online, all in Foundry VTT. The players with laptops are controlling their own characters, while those that don't will be controlled as a group on the big screen TV while I DM from behind my computer Monitor/DM screen.
It's the first time I've made notes for a module I was running instead of just winging it, so hopefully the game runs a lot more smoothly since I've read the chapters I've taken notes on pretty thoroughly.
Anonymous No.96344140 [Report] >>96344141
Here's a set of images I made of the skill trees for each of the basic Paths, it's just the pages from the pdf combined into one image each but it makes it a lot easier to plan out your basic character path.
Anonymous No.96344141 [Report] >>96344144
>>96344140
Anonymous No.96344144 [Report] >>96344147
>>96344141
Anonymous No.96344147 [Report] >>96344154
>>96344144
Anonymous No.96344154 [Report] >>96344157
>>96344147
Anonymous No.96344155 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
It's not D&D.
Anonymous No.96344157 [Report] >>96344314 >>96344317 >>96344601 >>96354778
>>96344154
Anonymous No.96344314 [Report] >>96354778
>>96344157
I ended up doing the Radiant Paths too. Here they are.
Anonymous No.96344317 [Report] >>96344320
>>96344157
Anonymous No.96344320 [Report] >>96344328
>>96344317
Anonymous No.96344328 [Report] >>96344333
>>96344320
Anonymous No.96344333 [Report] >>96344342
>>96344328
Anonymous No.96344342 [Report] >>96344346
>>96344333
Anonymous No.96344346 [Report] >>96344352
>>96344342
Anonymous No.96344352 [Report] >>96344359
>>96344346
Anonymous No.96344359 [Report] >>96352006 >>96356028
>>96344352
Anonymous No.96344601 [Report] >>96345188 >>96349006
>>96344157
Did they have a different artist work on the Shardplate in Warrior compared to the Radiant ones? The latter look so much more plastic-y that it's honestly fucking lame.
Anonymous No.96344782 [Report]
>be Pewter/Pewter Twinborn
>work as police sheriff
>go drinking after work one day
>meet someone who says they're a wizard from another planet
>get really, really drunk
>wake up naked in a prison cell on another planet
>no idea where you are
>no idea how you got there
>fortunately, a "cultivationspren" has taken an interest in you
>also, the wizard must have given you the ability to speak the local language or something, because you can actually understand them
>suddenly, adventure happens
>become magic turbochad
Warrior path/Edgedancer/Pewter Twinborn for infinite strength plus enhanced physical capabilities in general plus superspeed plus healing plus combat skills to use them in a fight.

Stack physical buffs on top of physical buffs. Become turbochad.

Alternatively, replace Pewter/Pewter Twinborn with Steel/Steel Twinborn for infinite speed and the ability to ignore friction with Edgedancer powers to become the Flash.
Anonymous No.96344789 [Report] >>96392846
>>96303302 (OP)
That last book was so bad i don't care about anything related to this anymore. Other than bitching about it that is.
Anonymous No.96345188 [Report]
>>96344601
Yes. I think the Warrior is also a non-Radiant set of Shardplate, probably Dalinar's.
Anonymous No.96345545 [Report] >>96348535
>>96343028
>10 week shipping
Well, they had a VERY successful KS, it's not surprising that they have to stagger things. Guess we just have to roll the metaphorical dice on when ours will arrive.
Anonymous No.96348535 [Report]
>>96345545
I hope they stagger in the order of when the person made the kickstarter pledge, I was an early backer and would like to have the books sometime next month.
Anonymous No.96348847 [Report]
Does anyone have a link to the RPG stuff where any of the table of contents work as links?
Anonymous No.96349006 [Report]
>>96344601
I think the design difference between radiant and dead shardplate is intentional to make them distinct
Anonymous No.96349643 [Report] >>96351476
>>96303302 (OP)
What add-ons did you get, if any? I got the Stormlight dice.
Anonymous No.96351476 [Report] >>96357985
>>96349643
Too many. I also got the extra dice including the life light die and the swirly resin dice. I'll probably never use the fancy ones cause I don't want to fuck them up, but they looked cool.
Anonymous No.96352006 [Report] >>96352084 >>96355145 >>96473878
>>96344359
Not gonna mass reply all of these, but I just wanted to mention how gay and soulless this all looks.
In the books are these people gay looking Power Rangers too, or is it just that the art sucks here in particular?
Really hope this wasn't the man's actual vision, because this shit blows. I'm shocked he approved of this crap.
Anonymous No.96352084 [Report] >>96354778
>>96352006
It's magic power armour forged from spirits using magic. How do ypu think it's supposed to look?
Anonymous No.96354778 [Report] >>96355289
>>96352084
I don't know?
Unique? Cool? Personalized?
There's no reason at all it needs to be power rangers looking bullshit.
If I got access to cool superarmor and it looked bland and mass-produced, I'd be really butthurt. This in addition to the fact that the backgrounds are reused often, and the characters aren't photoshopped very diagetically. Lazy looking. Take >>96344157 and >>96344314
Same background, sloppy photoshop job, looks shitty, lazy. Not the only example. There's just an undercurrent of sloppa to the whole production.
Anonymous No.96355145 [Report]
>>96352006
Yeah, unfortunately. They're mostly the same in the sketches of the books. The shardplates look like dollar store toy soldiers and painfully out of place compared to everything else but Sanderson must have liked them.
At least some of the artists managed to make them look somewhat cool in some pieces.
Anonymous No.96355289 [Report] >>96355385
>>96354778
For what its worth, the user has a level of control over the look and shape of the armor. The sleeker design is probably to emphasize the fact that it's living, morphable armor, as opposed to the "dead" shardplate with a more static design
Anonymous No.96355385 [Report] >>96355921 >>96522777
>>96355289
Look, I'm going to be honest, I just don't see what you like about this. I don't really want to argue with you or put you down, but at the same time, this shit just seems really gay, I don't like it, and I don't understand why you like it.
Every time people talk about it, they obsess over magical video game mechanics stapled to a story that's irrelevant, stapled to a generic, eye-rolling slop world. I don't get what the fuck you see in this.
Anonymous No.96355921 [Report]
>>96355385
Maybe just read a book.
Anonymous No.96356028 [Report]
>>96344359
Here's Kaladin's armor, for comparison. It's not perfect, but it's better than whatever the artist they hired for the Radiath Path images did.
Anonymous No.96357985 [Report]
>>96351476
Oh yeah, those are cool. I wonder if they'll release Voidlight and/or Lifelight versions of these liquid-core dice eventually? To say nothing of Warlight dice!
Anonymous No.96359652 [Report] >>96360938 >>96394857
>>96303302 (OP)
What's your favorite kind of Fused? Here's mine.
Anonymous No.96360558 [Report]
>>96306051
Personally, Dustbringers appeals most to my natural personality, e.g. self control and taking things apart.
Anonymous No.96360938 [Report] >>96367303 >>96394520 >>96394857
>>96359652
I can fix her.
Anonymous No.96361094 [Report] >>96361138
I applied for a game with a sort of character in mind. GM says, ooh I'm sorry that sort of role is taken. I say ok I'll go down this path instead. Yeah.. he's probably going to multiclass down that route. I froze because I couldn't think of a tertiary concept at the time. (Also casually joked how bold it was to host his foundry game locally because I could hack his computer, so that didn't help)
We then had some connection problem, then he said I didn't pass the vibe check and booted me. I sort of get it but also damn you'd think a setting that has orders of people that follow the same oath, that he'd be more open to people with similar roles.
Anonymous No.96361138 [Report]
>>96361094
Finally a playoid gets to experience what it's like when the GM wants to run something other than D&D but his lame play group refuse.
Anonymous No.96364234 [Report] >>96365610 >>96385425 >>96393866 >>96454863
>>96303302 (OP)
What cultures do your PCs come from? I'd probably be a Listener.
Anonymous No.96365610 [Report] >>96369090
>>96364234
>an array of mostly normal looking humans
>and a random blue chick
Do we even know what's with the Natan? The only time I remenber them being brought up is when that random Natan character got a PoV chapter in the first book. Are they revelant in Wind and Truth, or are they related to others series?
Anonymous No.96367303 [Report]
>>96360938
she can devastate me
Anonymous No.96369090 [Report]
>>96365610
>Do we even know what's with the Natan?
They're the only human-hybrid race that's part Siah Aimian rather than Singer, with every other ethnicity beside Shin having various levels of Singer DNA, like the Herdazians and their special fingernails and the Unkalaki, who among other things have the ability to hear Rhythms.
Anonymous No.96369537 [Report] >>96369592 >>96378425 >>96434702
Why can't you faggots just buy an add?
Anonymous No.96369592 [Report]
>>96369537
>Why can't you faggots just buy an add?
>add
I'll buy an ad when you learn grammar.
Anonymous No.96369775 [Report] >>96371998 >>96385430 >>96477543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTpyVi7WkjI
Anonymous No.96369865 [Report] >>96371998 >>96385430 >>96477543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUK5pLvvfwE
Anonymous No.96371998 [Report]
>>96369775
>>96369865
If it's really so bad, why doesn't someone homebrew some fixes?
Anonymous No.96373806 [Report] >>96375447
What I appreciate about the stonewalkers campaign book is that in chapter 2's investigation section, for each of the potential clues they give two different hooks, one for if the party is actively looking, and another called "passive" for if they're being lazy pieces of shit
Anonymous No.96375447 [Report]
>>96373806
Same, it's for when you have ADD-riddled players who decide that searching all the warcamps is a good idea when it's clear that each one is huge and the reason they even came to the Shattered Plains is because they're looking for someone who is specifically in the Kholin Camp.
Anonymous No.96378425 [Report]
>>96369537
It's already been funded, why would it need an ad, especially here?
Anonymous No.96382032 [Report]
Anonymous No.96385425 [Report]
>>96364234
As someone from the Appalachians, the Unkalaki speak to me. Everyone I meet outside of the hills and hollers seem like airsick lowlanders.
Anonymous No.96385430 [Report] >>96385694
>>96369775
>>96369865
>WAAAAAAH!
>EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS WOKE!
You fuckers sound like such absolute thin-skinned children.
Anonymous No.96385694 [Report] >>96388788 >>96398079 >>96400123
>>96385430
It has transition built into the magic setting.
How is it not woke garbage?
Anonymous No.96388788 [Report] >>96392291 >>96393011
>>96385694
That's a consequence of how magical healing works due to it being tied to self-image and Identity, and also means that if a wound is old enough or affected the person enough it might have become impossible to heal.
Anonymous No.96390196 [Report] >>96391687 >>96407384
>>96303302 (OP)
Is anyone planning to have their PC bond two spren? And if so, which type(s)?

Also, my favorite canon Radiant should be obvious, because I love her backstory and character arc, but who is yours and why?
Anonymous No.96391687 [Report]
>>96390196
I feel like bonding multiple spren would be cool, but considering you've got to maintain both oaths, level them up individually, and the standard Stormlight abilities don't improve from having two sources of them, it seems like a good way to be weaker than the rest of your party who focused on one spren or didn't bond at all.
Anonymous No.96392291 [Report] >>96392640
>>96388788
>if a wound is old enough
>posts the man who grew his arm back he didn't have when he was introduced
Anonymous No.96392640 [Report] >>96392765
>>96392291
It's all about your own internal image of yourself, despite missing an arm for a while he still thought as himself as having two arms, while a person with gender dysphoria would swap genders if their mental image of themselves was strong enough.
It would have to be rock solid though, Kaladin didn't lose his brand scars until after he said his third oath.
Anonymous No.96392765 [Report] >>96392814 >>96394075
>>96392640
The mental image someone has of themselves does not have much to do with what we actually look like. I've never read Sanderson, but I gather he is known for intricate magic systems. This seems like an oversight or a bone thrown to the community.
Anonymous No.96392812 [Report] >>96394565 >>96394613
>>96315204
I've heard mixed reports on him in that department
I haven't read his recent books but I'm told he's showing closer signs of having social views that are contradictory to church doctrine
Anonymous No.96392814 [Report]
>>96392765
It's more that those intricate magic systems directly incorporate things like intention, self-perception, and ideal forms a la plato
Anonymous No.96392846 [Report] >>96392911
>>96344789
I haven't read it. What happened
Anonymous No.96392911 [Report] >>96392930
>>96392846
NTA, but the two biggest complaints I hear about the 5th book is that there was a gay romance between the seizure prince and the Parshman spy that was in bridge 4, and Kaladin spends the entire book acting as a therapist for the Assassin in White.
Anonymous No.96392930 [Report] >>96393017
>>96392911
Huh
Well I'm not interested in reading that...
Anonymous No.96393011 [Report]
>>96388788
>Blah blah blah being trans is heckin valid
You will not survive the coming purge
Anonymous No.96393017 [Report]
>>96392930
I like the rest of it though, especially Adolin's solo chapters, and the book ends on a major cliffhanger for the series with an in-lore reason why the second half of the series is on hiatus until a bunch of other series's books come out, especially the next Mistborn trilogy and a sequel trilogy for Elantris.
Anonymous No.96393866 [Report] >>96393911 >>96394082
>>96364234
So Stormlight has no white people?
Anonymous No.96393911 [Report] >>96393913
>>96393866
Shin are white.
Anonymous No.96393913 [Report] >>96393939
>>96393911
lol
Anonymous No.96393939 [Report]
>>96393913
Okay.
Anonymous No.96394075 [Report]
>>96392765
Self-image does absolutely affect how a person looks, but this ain't really what it's about. The very rough idea is that self-image affects your soul and you soul is the blueprint used for magical healing. So even if your self-image doesn't affect your real appearance in mundane situations, radical and consistent changes in self-image can matter when magic comes into play or someone enters the mental realm.

The transition thing was basically a one-off line in a side book that most people don't even catch, but self-image in how it affects crippling or scars shows up consistently. There's also instances of people who have mastered this to the extent of effectively shapeshifting on command.
Anonymous No.96394082 [Report] >>96394382
>>96393866
Generally just the Shin, but Unakalki and Vedens have a pretty broad skin tone spectrum that includes white. Just not full pasty-ass pale.
Anonymous No.96394382 [Report] >>96394447 >>96394509 >>96394607
>>96394082
So there are no whites in stormlight
Anonymous No.96394447 [Report]
>>96394382
It's whatever you need to be mad
Anonymous No.96394503 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
It thinks you should have formed your own opinion and posted it into the prompt like a man instead of waiting for talking points like a low t, soft dick pussy..
Anonymous No.96394509 [Report]
>>96394382
Good. Means there will be significantly less whiners.
Anonymous No.96394520 [Report]
>>96360938
Ain't broke.
Anonymous No.96394565 [Report]
>>96392812
>he's showing closer signs of having social views that are contradictory to church doctrine
Classic religious LARPer, treating religion as a proxy for political affiliation. People are Mormons because they believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of the one true God, not because they agree with every single thing that the LDS Church has ever said about polygamy, gays, women, and blacks. If they spend all day at your church telling you how to feel about faggots, go to a different church.
Anonymous No.96394607 [Report]
>>96394382
I'm sure you can find some chronic basement-dwellers like yourself.
Anonymous No.96394613 [Report]
>>96392812
It feels less like his own opinions and more like he's regurgitating what his new editor and all the support staff are telling them. Brando was always a pretty shallow character writer, but now it feels like someone who took a single semester in college psychology is breathing down his neck and telling him all the ways his "representation" could be more "realistic" and less "problematic".

Meanwhile Brando is a super milquetoast and stable dude who literally can't write mental illness and most of the other topics he loves exploring without a layer of fantasy abstraction. Grind that off and his quality instantly suffers.
Anonymous No.96394857 [Report] >>96396264 >>96397442
>>96360938
>>96359652
I'm disappointed by the final reveal of the Fused. No interesting twists on the powers, just "oh yeah they can use weak powers for free."
>interesting twists on surges
Deepest, Focused, Magnified, Husked
>just worse radiants
Heavenly, Altered, Masked, Flowing, Devastating
Anonymous No.96396264 [Report]
>>96394857
Heavenly were cool though because they all seemed to have a sense of honor. They just wanted anime sky duels
Anonymous No.96397442 [Report]
>>96394857
Devastating was prob my biggest disappointment because I'd been speculating about them using carapace as reactive armor or something. Might just homebrew that at some point.
Anonymous No.96398079 [Report]
>>96385694
>OH NO I MIGHT HAVE TO KNOW TRANS PEOPLE EXIST
>THAT THREATENS MY IDENTITY
>WAAA WAAA WAAA I NEED MY BINKY
Get fucked, snowflake.
Anonymous No.96400123 [Report]
>>96385694
You are the stupidest fucking moron imaginable. ANY setting with any sort of shapechanging effect that is remotely permanent has transition built-in. If your instinctive response is to just remove those, you are a retarded loser who is letting the libs or whatever fucking ghosts live in your peanut sized brain ruin your life.
Anonymous No.96400590 [Report] >>96400947
I'm curious why they started with this magic system of his when the pretty boy wizards are clearly the most powerful & versatile of his creations.
Anonymous No.96400947 [Report]
>>96400590
Because the stormlight archives is THE epic fantasy series of the different books, one of the more popular ones, and is basically training wheels for designing the system for compared to everything else. They did say they were keeping Elantrians and Aons in mind when they were balancing the system
Anonymous No.96404765 [Report]
>>96306051
I like playing lawbringer types, so probably Skybreaker.
Anonymous No.96405428 [Report]
>>96306051
I think Soulcasting is the better part of Lightweaver, Soulcasting is so interesting in terms of as an ability that doesn't involve directly transmuting someone into an element, such as turning a boulder into smoke for a giant smokescreen, or transmuting something into blood to hide the facts of a crime scene.
Anonymous No.96405521 [Report] >>96405700 >>96406832 >>96408532 >>96411254
>>96303302 (OP)
I’m really looking forward to the books for Elantris/Sel, besides wanting to learn more about the planet I’d love to play as an Elantrian with AonDor. What do you think of it, and what other Cosmere worlds are you looking forward to after Mistborn comes out.
Anonymous No.96405700 [Report]
>>96405521
Considering we're getting an Elantris trilogy after mistborn era 3, I wouldn't be surprised if we get Sel next. I can imagine the programming-like nature of Elantrian magic is going to give players a GURPS level of control of granularity of abilities.
I want the metalborn abilities just so we know how all of the more mysterious Feruchemy powers work, but I assume it'll be covered in the Mistborn era 3 trilogy, and we probably won't get into on stuff the trilogy is going to cover, considering we're getting Mistborn books within around a year.
Anonymous No.96406832 [Report] >>96414594
>>96405521
I prefer Forging myself. But same.
Anonymous No.96407384 [Report]
>>96390196
I don't think this would count as bonding two spren though?
I don't think I'm wrong but those are the same type of spren so it's not like she's got extra powers or anything right? Just another cool sword.
Anonymous No.96407779 [Report]
Mistborn Era 3 and Stormlight back half. Their own core rulebook, or supplements to the existing ones?
Anonymous No.96408532 [Report]
>>96405521
Honestly I just want more Warbreaker stuff. Awakening ain't as flashy as the other power systems, but it has really neat limitations and creative applications. Nalthis will prob be the first world to develop shit like perfect prosthetics and cyborgs because of it.
Anonymous No.96411254 [Report] >>96413561
>>96405521
I'm pretty basic and I'm just looking forward to Mistborn for feruchemy. I'll admit I'm not super interested in deep dives on individual worlds as I am interested in light worldhopping gameplay. They keep referencing interworld trade off and on in the books, and that's the kind of thing I'm primarily interested in rather than the conflicts between shards and whatnot.
Anonymous No.96413561 [Report] >>96415600
>>96411254
The feruchemy rules are pretty neat too. I wish there was more you could do to store and tap faster for bigger penalties and payoffs but otherwise there are some fun toys there.
Anonymous No.96414594 [Report]
>>96406832
Yeah, Forging is based. I wonder how it'll be handled mechanically.
Anonymous No.96415600 [Report] >>96420641
>>96413561
It's a shame that there's no way to become a feruchemist at the moment in Mistborn barring hemalurgy, though I personally wouldn't be surprised if burning Harmonium would do it. I think it'll just make every worldhopping campaign start on Scadriel or Elantris for the arts you can't get anywhere else.
Anonymous No.96420641 [Report] >>96423007
>>96415600
You might be able to become a Feruchemist through a boon from the Nightwatcher/Cultivation, and you almost definitely can become one through Forging.
Considering Feruchemy is a combination of the power of both shards, I'd like to think Harmonium or some extremely weakened alloy/isotope of it could also grant the user the full powers of a Feruchemist, but for now it's just fantasy Cesium in terms of reactivity, meaning you can't just eat some and gain powers instead of exploding.
Anonymous No.96421908 [Report] >>96421991 >>96422117 >>96422849 >>96423260
Nobody is playing this.
Anonymous No.96421991 [Report] >>96422042
>>96421908
There's a lot of people waiting until the physical release for non-backers before they start playing, I've ran a session and am doing another one next week.
Anonymous No.96422042 [Report]
>>96421991
Stop lying.
Anonymous No.96422117 [Report]
>>96421908
I'm running Stonewalkers weekly, but not much more than that because I want to figure out what I want to do for the main thrust of the plot, but also the group I was doing a campaign on the beta rules with is the most absent motherfuckers I have ever had the pain of running for, and I'm hoping by the time I'm finished they will have given up or somehow found better schedules
Anonymous No.96422849 [Report]
>>96421908
I'm playing the Mistborn one right now. It's been a good time.
Anonymous No.96423007 [Report]
>>96420641
I'm not super familiar with forging since I've never read any of the Sel or Elantris books, but my rough gathering is that it can do anything IF you're advanced enough, which is the kicker, ain't it.
>Considering Feruchemy is a combination of the power of both shards, I'd like to think Harmonium or some extremely weakened alloy/isotope of it could also grant the user the full powers of a Feruchemist, but for now it's just fantasy Cesium in terms of reactivity, meaning you can't just eat some and gain powers instead of exploding.
I imagine the solution is probably gold compounding of some type or another, since an alkaline explosion is pretty bad, but it's not the sort of instant evaporation that would prevent you from healing. Plus, you likely only need to consume a very small amount to get started, but we won't find out for a while.
Anonymous No.96423260 [Report]
>>96421908
I ran my second session of Stonewalkers last night. I don't care enough to make a whole-ass original campaign for this system, but I'm more than happy to play through the premades.
Anonymous No.96425627 [Report] >>96425658 >>96427345
Did anyone read the preview for Ghostbloods?
I was expecting the 80s, but not the 80s with flying cars.
Anonymous No.96425658 [Report] >>96425688
>>96425627
>Did anyone read the preview for Ghostbloods?
What, there's a preview? Where? When?
Anonymous No.96425688 [Report] >>96427860
>>96425658
I got an email this morning from the Brandon Sanderson newsletter. I'll just pastebin the contents:

https://pastebin.com/2X4qQ7v5
Anonymous No.96427048 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
Anyone have the Stonewalkers Foundry module?
Anonymous No.96427094 [Report]
>>96303626
Isn't this just what Genesys does?
Anonymous No.96427345 [Report] >>96427510
>>96425627
>but not the 80s with flying cars
It is a fantasy setting anon
Anonymous No.96427510 [Report] >>96427577 >>96432641
>>96427345
Sure, but a large reason why the setting was interesting during Era 2 was despite the changing world, coinshots still dominated the sky. If everyone can fly using cars, then everyone's on a level playing field and it's not as interesting.
Anonymous No.96427577 [Report]
>>96427510
It seems like the cars fly in specific-height "lanes", so coinshots and lurchers will still have an advantage like a motorcycle weaving through traffic. If anything, this gives them more metal in the air to use as anchors
Anonymous No.96427625 [Report] >>96427781 >>96427814
When will we get kite magic?
Anonymous No.96427781 [Report]
>>96427625
Hopefully in the Worldhopper supplement filled with all the world ideas that will never get a book
Anonymous No.96427814 [Report] >>96427860
>>96427625
I wish the Rithmatist series was Cosmere, I like the concept even if it's probably as complicated as Elantrian magic to represent in a tabletop game.
Anonymous No.96427842 [Report] >>96427876 >>96429048
>>96303302 (OP)
The first two Stormlight Books were very good, the next two were mid and I never bothered with the 5th
Anonymous No.96427860 [Report] >>96427891 >>96441752
>>96427814
>I wish the Rithmatist series was Cosmere, I like the concept even if it's probably as complicated as Elantrian magic to represent in a tabletop game.
Fun fact, the book originally 'was' a Cosmere story! The reason why the Forgotten in the book were afraid of things like clocks was due to how the Spiritual Realm doesn't have linear time, as the concept for them was that they were Spiritual beings trapped in the Physical Realm. Are there any other Sanderson books that deserve their own RPGs, BTW?

>>96425688
Thanks!
Anonymous No.96427876 [Report]
>>96427842
I can understand not liking the 4th book, but why didn't you like the 3rd? Urithuru, the squire thing, the final battle being anime as hell, and Dalinar's flashback chapter are some of my favorite parts of the series.
Anonymous No.96427891 [Report]
>>96427860
After checking Words of Brandon, the only reason Rithmatist was not considered part of the Cosmere is because it takes place on a version of Earth.
Why didn't he just change the name of the world, it's not like he hasn't done reprints that have made more than just grammar or spelling mistakes before.
Anonymous No.96429048 [Report] >>96454908
>>96427842
5th is woke garbage so you didn't miss a thing!
Anonymous No.96432572 [Report] >>96437435 >>96451230
Does anyone have the Speak the Words oneshot module? I'm not planning on running it, I just want to read it.
Anonymous No.96432641 [Report]
>>96427510
How the fuck do you not see the potential of sick mid-air battles using cars as both anchors and platforms? Or potential for horrific collateral damage either of those Mistings could wreak?
Anonymous No.96434702 [Report]
>>96369537
To annoy (You), specifically.
Anonymous No.96437435 [Report] >>96440397 >>96451230
>>96432572
>Does anyone have the Speak the Words oneshot module?
Seconding please.
Anonymous No.96440397 [Report] >>96451230
>>96437435
Thirding this please.
Anonymous No.96441752 [Report] >>96444565 >>96447605
>>96427860
Are there any other Sanderson books that deserve their own RPGs, BTW?
Reckoners, definitely.
Anonymous No.96444565 [Report]
>>96441752
Snapshot could be fun with gamefying the simulation degradation and trying to complete investigations in time to catch killers.
Anonymous No.96447605 [Report]
>>96441752
Based. Reckoners is absolutely one of the best takes on the supers genre.
Anonymous No.96451230 [Report] >>96451934 >>96452788 >>96461970 >>96477567
>>96432572
>>96437435
>>96440397
no idea if this link will work, but here
https://puu(dot)sh(slash)KA5wX/339bf89fe9.pdf
Anonymous No.96451934 [Report] >>96452788
>>96451230
It works, I appreciate it.
Anonymous No.96452788 [Report] >>96453041
>>96451230
>>96451934
I can't get it to work, never used this site before.
Anonymous No.96453041 [Report] >>96454792
>>96452788
Replace the (dot) with . and the (slash) with / anon.
Anonymous No.96454792 [Report]
>>96453041
I tried that multiple times, but it didn't work until after you posted that reply for some reason. Annoying. Maybe the site was just acting up?
Anonymous No.96454863 [Report]
>>96364234
I'm still annoyed that alethi are british people and not north indian empire.
Anonymous No.96454908 [Report] >>96455284
>>96429048
>Everything I don't like is woke!
Fuck off.
Anonymous No.96455088 [Report]
>>96303302 (OP)
What kinds of campaigns have you done so far, and do you prefer to keep them something that could plausibly be canon or throw the canon plot out entirely?

Also, I’d like to do some campaigns in the time before the Recreance at some points, or maybe after the rise of Retribution, what about you? Shame that we’re not likely to get book content for either anytime soon.
Anonymous No.96455284 [Report]
>>96454908
nta but the series has definitely gotten worse about how they represent those topics over successive books. Just compare the description of Teft's addiction in Oathbringer to Shallan talking about her alters in Wind and Truth. Whoever is doing the sensitivity reading is forcing in more and more clinical and "correct" language, completely removing the actual viewpoint for the character, not to mention making the culture and language between books feel like it migrated decades despite one happening right after the other
Anonymous No.96460851 [Report]
Physical rewards are apparently in fulfillment now
Anonymous No.96461970 [Report] >>96463463
>>96451230
Thanks anon. Have you done anything with it yet?
Anonymous No.96463463 [Report]
>>96461970
Nothing yet, though I'm planning on running it for a group I did bridge 9 for prior
Anonymous No.96464254 [Report]
>>96305373
Yeah godammit I wish WotC would stop advertising with all those D&D and Magic threads all the time!
Anonymous No.96468688 [Report] >>96469133 >>96469319 >>96470296
My friend is really into the books and got all the RPG stuff as early as possible. Personally I think the art in the book looks like the absolute blandest slop imaginable, all of the worst aspects of modern DnD, just completely dead and soulless. Also every time I have been around him listening to the books, which is quite a lot, they sound like YA novels, and I just really don't care for it. But I don't wanna make him sad, so I'm gonna play the game and actually take it seriously, since he usually does the same for me, besides that I think playing a game where I am not interested at all in the setting could make me a better roleplayer
Anonymous No.96469133 [Report] >>96489921
>>96468688
Well at least you know you'll be miserable going in.
Anonymous No.96469319 [Report] >>96489921
>>96468688
Luckily for you, prose of the source material and art in the handbook is in the top 5 things that almost never matter when you're actually playing a game, because those are usually substituted with whatever the GM comes up with or has on hand. Have you found anything of interest in the mechanics?
Anonymous No.96470296 [Report] >>96472314 >>96489921
>>96468688
The audiodrama versions of the books definitely save them for me. I don't think I could get through the fucking thousand page books or whatever if I was reading it and having to lug it around by hand.
Anonymous No.96470331 [Report] >>96471350 >>96472926
Do you have to have some le quirky mental illness or can you just play a normal character.
Anonymous No.96471350 [Report]
>>96470331
The supplement requiring you to pick a condition from the bundled DSM-5 got canceled, not enough kickstarter money
Anonymous No.96472314 [Report] >>96473686
>>96470296
>I don't think I could get through the fucking thousand page books or whatever if I was reading it and having to lug it around by hand.
Luckily you can read digital versions of books on your phone, no heavy lifting required.
Anonymous No.96472926 [Report]
>>96470331
If you're talking about for magic powers, not at all.
Anonymous No.96473686 [Report]
>>96472314
Completely, and not doing that is merely a personal failing of mine. I just don't like being bent over my phone for a long time, so I never use it for reading. Hell, I don't even browse 4chan on my phone because of it. That's entirely on me and not the fault of the books in that instance.
Anonymous No.96473878 [Report]
>>96352006
Yes but it's easier to ignore in the books since there aren't pictures everywhere.
Sanderson does like over the top armor and huge swords so he made them magical in nature to justify them looking that way.
Anonymous No.96474434 [Report] >>96474455 >>96474520 >>96476775 >>96516205 >>96522810
This thread is so artificial and cringe. Nobody cares about another shitty fantasy setting, a 5e clone or your flavor of the week "author" that fills the world with even more generic garbage.
Buy and ad or better yet, fuck off.
Anonymous No.96474455 [Report] >>96474481
>>96474434
>5e clone
What makes something a 5e clone? Advantage?
Anonymous No.96474481 [Report] >>96474501 >>96522810
>>96474455
Fuck off marketer. I won't engage in your strawman arguments so you can get the chance to advertise the "merits" of this shitty and cringy product or tell us how "unique and awesome" fantasy setting number 78590 is.

You all suck and you know it.
Anonymous No.96474501 [Report]
>>96474481
Answer the question or just accept that you're a shitposter in a normal thread you don't like.
Anonymous No.96474520 [Report] >>96474549 >>96522810
>>96474434
I mean, it pulls from PF2e, FFG SW, and SotDL a lot lot more than it does 5e
Anonymous No.96474549 [Report] >>96474573
>>96474520
But you don't understand, it has a d20 and Advantage!
Anonymous No.96474573 [Report] >>96522810
>>96474549
Shut the fuck up, just because I disagree with them doesn't mean I like you any more.
Anonymous No.96476775 [Report] >>96476885 >>96478099
>>96474434
It's a just-released kickstarter system. The only people who have anything of any depth to say are the sickos who were keeping up with the beta outside of here. As one of those sickos, I hope that once the books get circulated more openly, and people have had a few weeks to actually use it, some more meaningful conversation can happen. Maybe some arguing about whether all the guns in Mistborn should have armor pierce, people love arguing about that.
Anonymous No.96476885 [Report] >>96476909 >>96482545
>>96476775
I think it's fine. People aren't rocking armor in Mistborn that's going to stop a bullet anyway and Lurchers get a talent for more deflect and the removal of pierce. So the only thing it matters for accounts for it.
Anonymous No.96476909 [Report] >>96477053
>>96476885
Where are you getting the info from? Is this from the alpha tests, or some shit they showed off at a con?
Anonymous No.96477053 [Report] >>96477107
>>96476909
I'm not going to upload it but you can ask questions.
Anonymous No.96477107 [Report] >>96477212
>>96477053
How the fuck do the metal paths actually work, and how do they balance between Misting and Mistborn so that Mistborn isn't the objectively superior path under all circumstances?
Anonymous No.96477212 [Report] >>96477262 >>96482545
>>96477107
Metalborn paths have a single specialisation and when you take the first talent you get one or all metals as nascent powers. To unlock the full power it's a goal for the misting metal and a goal for each pair of metals for the mistborn.

Each metal gets its own path with some metals having no talents like aluminum and others like gold having lots of talents. They each come with a burn metal action that covers its basic functionality. Talents either passively improve that or give you new ways to use it.

Mistings get some talents that make their single metal stronger but mistborn get some talents to cheat the action economy.

Mistborn are the stronger of the two options. The balancing factor is that investiture is used for all your metals and the action economy of not being able to use them all at once. I didn't find they overshadowed mistings but they are stronger.

Ferrings and feruchemists work similarly. Twinborn are unique in that they have two specialisations for each metallic art.
Anonymous No.96477262 [Report] >>96477384
>>96477212
I never considered mistborn unlocking metals in pairs, but it makes sense, it was about how they were taught in the books. Still, 8 goals to get full access is rough, but makes sense. Not quite as hard a gate as a talent tax, but not quite full access for free like I was worried about

What's the rules for refilling your metals? Do they give a shit about tracking individual stores, or are there any built-in ways to lock out certain powers because you don't have the exact metal for it?
Anonymous No.96477263 [Report]
What do you guys think of the minis?
Anonymous No.96477384 [Report]
>>96477262
There is a light amount of tracking for rarer metals. The 8 basics are assumed to be always available and you only need to use an action to replenish investiture. The others you need specific vials for. If you lack access to a metal you can't use it. From a practical standpoint this means that rarer powers have a cost to using them. A mistborn can get a talent to deplete a metal reserve to use it once for a more powerful effect. You could do a powerful steelpush but be unable to steelpush again until you down a vial despite having investiture available to use on the other metals.
Anonymous No.96477543 [Report]
>>96369865
>>96369775
Thanks anon, I am glad I dodge a bullet
Anonymous No.96477567 [Report] >>96477579 >>96483997 >>96497797 >>96524652
>>96451230
>pronouns
Eww
Anonymous No.96477579 [Report] >>96477593 >>96478057
>>96477567
>gender binaries are not biological but imposed in human society
I am so tired bros
Anonymous No.96477593 [Report]
>>96477579
Anonymous No.96477597 [Report] >>96478051
>>96315204
>He's a practicing Mormon and serves as a gospel doctrine teacher at his church
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.96478051 [Report]
>>96477597
Weird I don't see anything there about him not being a practicing Mormon
Anonymous No.96478056 [Report]
Brando Sando fucking sucks. Generic reddit bullshit 'fantasy' from r/worldbuilding.
Anonymous No.96478057 [Report] >>96478294
>>96477579
Eh, it makes enough sense since outside of Mateform all singers are basically asexual and gender dimorphism is not a thing for them. It really is a pure "lock or key" distinction.
Anonymous No.96478099 [Report]
>>96476775
I think as well, the cosmere stuff is... it's really just light reading, despite the absurd length of all of it. I like it and I want to give the system a try, but I'm not absurdly committed to the setting to the point that it's one of my passions or whatever, and that's basically been the case for every person I've spoken to about it that wasn't a teenager. So the tone of the thread entirely checks out to me as a bunch of people who look at it and go "Oh, cool."
Anonymous No.96478294 [Report] >>96478577
>>96478057
The problem is not the singer part, it is saying that human binaries are enforced by culture and not biology.
Anonymous No.96478577 [Report] >>96478579
>>96478294
>Blue is a boy color because biology says so
Kek
Anonymous No.96478579 [Report] >>96478616
>>96478577
That isn't what the page is saying. It is literally saying male and female is cultural.
Anonymous No.96478616 [Report] >>96478619
>>96478579
Yeah, because that's how it works? Humans are all "blue is for boys", singers don't bang that drum so much. The major culture you see the most of in Stormlight is just blue is for boys the whole way down. It's not any different if it's spiced curry.
Anonymous No.96478619 [Report] >>96478625 >>96480108
>>96478616
You may be blind, the image indicates the only reason men and women are different are not the biological reason
Anonymous No.96478625 [Report] >>96478810
>>96478619
It says singers don't impose gender binaries as much. I'm not sure how you're getting from that to "humans have no sexual dimorphism". Sexual dimorphism isn't even mentioned in that passage at all.
Anonymous No.96478810 [Report] >>96479555
>>96478625
What's funny is that Sanderson in all of his shit has gender roles as typically being "men should act like men and women should act like women". Scadriel has women being expected to be feminine even if they are warriors, while Roshar wants them to conform to the traditions of their culture. Individuals are definitely a bit all over the place in how they interact with it, but not in a way I'd describe as WOKE, and I'd wager the warning is actually there because of all the weird gender role nonsense that's in the book that doesn't even exist in our reality, like safehands and shit. Anon just seems like they're jumping at shadows.
Anonymous No.96479555 [Report] >>96480158
>>96478810
Why's that funny? That's just how it works.
Anonymous No.96480108 [Report] >>96484781
>>96478619
Anon, you're just having over a crashout over a term you haven't looked up the definition of. Like, no shit genders differ in more ways than purely surface-level biology, but there is a difference between those differences existing independently and society dictating what those differences should be.

Gender Binaries isn't "men tend to like X/women tend to like Y", it's "men should like X/women should like Y, otherwise you're unmanly/unwomanly".
Anonymous No.96480158 [Report]
>>96479555
Oh, I just thought it was funny that the series is much more traditional than the anon seemed to think.
Anonymous No.96482545 [Report] >>96483144
>>96476885
>people aren't rocking armour that can block a bullet
Shardplate?
>>96477212
How does compounding work? Infinite strength, infinite speed, and infinite healing all seem like things that can break game balance over their knees, even if any particular character only gets one of them.
Anonymous No.96483056 [Report]
My physical order is coming in, I'm looking forward to reading the books physically, my mind doesn't focus in when reading game books as pdfs like it used to.
Anonymous No.96483144 [Report] >>96485586
>>96482545
Mistborn doesn't have rules for Shardplate.

You burn a piece of a metalmind and gain investiture equal to its charges. You then count as compounding for the scene and can spend investiture on feruchemical powers rather than charges. There is a second talent that allows you to store investiture directly as charges too.

Metalminds have 2 + feruchemy charges and each time you compound you reduce its maximum by 1. You need at least 3 feruchemy to get the talent though. So a basic example is you have 5 charges and burn it to get 5 investiture. The metalmind drops to 4 charges. You then have 9 total resource you can spend on feruchemic abilities. Plus any investiture from drinking metals.

How effective your utilisation of this can be is dependant on the metal and your investment with its talents. The core ability of pewter is 1 charge enhanced str +2 and advantage on str tests. You gain that for rounds equal to your feruchemy and can spend 1 as a free action to prolong it. Most metals of this format have later talents that allow you to spend more charges to increase the bonus. For pewter you get +x+1 enhanced strength, +x+1 advantage on str, and your size is large. This reduces the duration to end of your next turn and you can only spend as many charges in a turn as your feruchemy.

So for a baseline assumption compounding could get you 3 turns of +4 str, +4 advantage on str, and being size large. Along with some talent prerequisites for bonuses to deflect and unarmed.
Anonymous No.96483997 [Report] >>96484469
>>96477567
Imagine losing your mind over 3-4 letter words that everyone uses daily.
Anonymous No.96484004 [Report] >>96484083 >>96484216
So for a god Cultivation really hasn't seemed to do much of anything in Roshar aside from being kinda spooky and offering the worst deals in the history of forever.
Why would anyone see her for magical boons?
Anonymous No.96484083 [Report]
>>96484004
They don't. They try to visit the funny genie spren for a wish and then she comes in out of nowhere and makes it the worst deal ever instead for her shitty plans
Anonymous No.96484216 [Report]
>>96484004
She does have a passive effect on developing wildlife, causing them to develop sentience at a higher degree than normal.
She also was the only thing keeping Odium from killing Stormfather outright, since she could apparently kill or at least hurt him with a counterattack.
Anonymous No.96484469 [Report] >>96484785
>>96483997
They seem like a very exhausting person to be around.
Anonymous No.96484781 [Report] >>96489209
>>96480108
>no shit genders differ in more ways than purely surface-level biology
So you disagree with Brandon and his book?
Anonymous No.96484785 [Report] >>96484848
>>96484469
You will find that people who demand
>Erm, acktually it's Xe/Xim
To be absolutely exhausting, leftists are nonstop drama sources and should be gatekept as much as possible.
Anonymous No.96484848 [Report] >>96485182 >>96485673 >>96490769
>>96484785
Got a trans chick in my group. I just referred to them like everyone else referred to them and it's never really come up. Like ??? I used to believe all that "blue-haired pronoun people are comin' fer mah games" shit dudes like you were always banging on about. Then I had one in my game and like and I was just waiting for this massive crash-out and... it was a complete fucking nothingburger. Given how full of shit tg is about stuff I shouldn't have been surprised, but I spent a good like while feeling like a retard for buying into all this shit.
Anonymous No.96485182 [Report] >>96485265
>>96484848
There's definitely some... interesting libtard brainrot going on with the trans people I know, but the pronouns thing I've never experienced either. It seems like some stupid thing the people they know get up to to try and be ALLIES! or whatever they tell themselves.
Anonymous No.96485265 [Report] >>96485539
>>96485182
Brainrot is everywhere you look these days. Am I going to pew pew some trans chick and hold their dumb takes out as especially depraved and then overlook that anti-vaccine crap and go, "Oh no that is acceptable brainrot because it is a bunch of rightoid shit." Everyone I know has at least one shit take. Most have loads of the them.

I don't know. I don't got any answers either, but all this anti-trans stuff I always get the distinct gut feeling of some used car salesman kinda guy selling me their list of enemies. They are a little too insistent about it and their verbiage ain't matching up with what I can physically see with my own two eyes. So I am just like, "What's you angle?"
Anonymous No.96485539 [Report]
>>96485265
It's one of my crackhead traits, but that's why I never trust anything that comes out of the mouth of an activist of any stripe. Anyone who is trying to sell me on an idea but also has a financial incentive to do so sets off every red flag in my body, even if I know they're likely being genuine. I can't quite put it into words, but I can't make a meaningful distinction between that and a corporation, something's up.
Anonymous No.96485586 [Report] >>96486173
>>96483144
Let's be honest, half the games in this system are going to involve feruchemists/allomancers on Roshar, Knights Radiant on Scadrial, or both of them travelling to completely different planets in the Cosmere. Dudes in shardplate getting shot at by guns is totally going to be a thing that would happen.
Anonymous No.96485673 [Report] >>96485920 >>96489311
>>96484848
Funny, because it's consistently been the trans players that have consistently caused the most nuclear trouble for all of my groups
Anonymous No.96485920 [Report]
>>96485673
Same. Every major problem in the past 7 or so years that has happened in my play groups, all my play groups mind you not just rpgs, has been caused by a trans person save for 1 event. There are two that are banned from a couple stores because of the drama they caused, one group imploded from another, one tried to start shit saying people at one store were transphobic and then never showed up when people invited them directly to play, ect. I have no issues with trans people because they're trans. I have issues with them because 90% of the time they've proven to be shitty people I don't want to interact with, and it hurts the other 10% who are totally fine.
Anonymous No.96486173 [Report] >>96488416
>>96485586
Crossover rules don't exist yet. I see no reason to complain about an issue created by doing something unintended. Mundane full plate shouldn't be effected either. No full plate in Mistborn either.
Anonymous No.96488416 [Report] >>96488884
>>96486173
The crossover rules ARE the rules. One of the selling points of the system is being cross-compatible out of the box
Anonymous No.96488884 [Report] >>96489162
>>96488416
Worldhopper is for worldhopping.
Anonymous No.96489162 [Report] >>96489203
>>96488884
Worldhopper is for bundling all the worlds and systems too small and disconnected to warrant their own separate book
Anonymous No.96489203 [Report] >>96489323
>>96489162
Then guns are overpowered on Roshar.
Anonymous No.96489209 [Report]
>>96484781
I agree that you have shit reading comprehension.
Anonymous No.96489311 [Report] >>96489448
>>96485673
I mean, you say it is them, but everyone in any grouping might have a couple similarities, but they are all ultimately different people. As the saying goes, if every person you meet smells like shit, check your shoe. Maybe you are just being an asshole to them.

Like you clearly have pre-existing expectations that they are going to be a problem, and people know when you are treating them like a time bomb. If you are capable of it, maybe just start treating them like everyone else and you won't have problems. That is what I do and I haven't had any issues at all.
Anonymous No.96489323 [Report] >>96489343
>>96489203
>gun on a fantasy mud planet that cyclically gets blasted into the stone age are overpowered
No shit
Anonymous No.96489343 [Report] >>96489445 >>96492587
>>96489323
Why are you like this? That's entirely irrelevant. Guns don't puncture plate and shouldn't be as effective against armor as grandbows are.
Anonymous No.96489445 [Report] >>96489456
>>96489343
Suck my dick.
https://youtu.be/BOFDHX22nh4?t=280
Anonymous No.96489448 [Report] >>96489509
>>96489311
I'm not going to derail the thread further by going into the details of shitty tabletop drama, but basically every assumption you made in that post about my situation is flat out wrong, and I sincerely hope you never have to deal with the exact people that crush that way of thinking like they did to me
Anonymous No.96489456 [Report] >>96489495
>>96489445
Thank you for proving my point.
Anonymous No.96489495 [Report]
>>96489456
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.96489509 [Report]
>>96489448
Whatever you say, dude.
Anonymous No.96489921 [Report]
>>96469133
I don't think I'm gonna be miserable, I'm gonna be playing a game with my friends so it's not like it won't be fun. In general I think I'm very picky when it comes to fantasy in general, I like fantasy, but there aren't many fantasy franchises that I like if that makes sense. I feel like I tend to actually like more stock or tropey fantasy settings
>>96469319
Yeah for me I was kinda thinking like if I just ignore the art, then the world looks how I imagine. As far as mechanics he gave us a very basic overview of classes not much more than that, I'm sure I'll find something to like mechanically
>>96470296
That's the only way I've experienced it and that was what initially turned me off to it, but I'm not usually super big on audiobooks, I have an easier time reading it.
Anonymous No.96490769 [Report] >>96490799
>>96484848
>AND THEN EVERYONE CLAPPED AND I GOT A MILLION DOLLARS
Thank you for your (REAL) story
Anonymous No.96490799 [Report] >>96490804
>>96490769
Honestly, people behaving normal is way more believable than the, "I got jumped by 3 blue-haired tranny ninjas outside of the titty club I host my game at and they all called me a bigot, held me down, and pissed in my mouth" stories some of you faggots are constantly spinning. That shit is fucking tiresome.
Anonymous No.96490804 [Report]
>>96490799
Ok, if that is the story that happened in your head that is fine.
Anonymous No.96490814 [Report] >>96491580
So, how do I justify having two spren?
Anonymous No.96491580 [Report]
>>96490814
Justify it to who, and for what reason?
If it's your GM in terms of being overpowered, explain that taking two radiant paths is a huge pain, since your base enhancement powers don't stack, and there's barely any crossover between paths that don't share a surge, meaning you're going to be weaker than other radiants or even shard-wielding non-radiants in your group at the same level. Your investiture is going to be tied up four ways assuming you're not overlapping on surges, and the talents that make the basic uses of your abilities free in terms of investiture cost are higher level, meaning you're probably going to focus on your main one (probably a movement like gravitation or adhesion) and slowly level the others.
Anonymous No.96492587 [Report]
>>96489343
Fwiw I wasn't the anon you've been arguing with
Anonymous No.96495203 [Report] >>96505197
>>96303302 (OP)
What are you hoping for with the worldhopping section, what are some ideas for campaigns that take place on multiple worlds in the Cosmere? What about creating your own Cosmere worlds and/or Investiture systems?
Anonymous No.96497797 [Report] >>96500578
>>96477567
Given how at least one Fused has canonically ended up in a body that isn't the same gender they were in their first life, it's warranted.
Anonymous No.96500578 [Report] >>96505957 >>96509534
>>96497797
pronouns are the faggiest way of doing it, but the upfront gender is genuinely helpful because there's a lot of stuff in the cosmere where the distinction matters but isn't immediately clear visually or descriptively
Anonymous No.96505197 [Report] >>96515152
>>96495203
I want to run a game on Komashi.
Have another shard show up and steal the color yellow from their planet's investiture.
Anonymous No.96505957 [Report]
>>96500578
I too agree with the tg-approved opinion. Our compliance will be rewarded.
Anonymous No.96509534 [Report] >>96510228
>>96500578
>there's a lot of stuff in the cosmere where the distinction matters but isn't immediately clear visually or descriptively
For someone who is new to the Cosmere, can you please explain what you mean by that?
Anonymous No.96509671 [Report]
>>96304097
this is a good post in a sea of shit
Anonymous No.96510228 [Report] >>96510825 >>96515174
>>96509534
Mainly shapeshifters and races that doesn't have clear human-like secondary sexual characteristics, like the singers or dragons
Anonymous No.96510825 [Report] >>96512921
>>96510228
Singers also have 4 genders, 2 regular and 2 that are neuter, with the ability to switch between the two by assuming the form that can mate (mateform) during a highstorm by trapping a specific spren in their core.
Anonymous No.96512921 [Report] >>96515320 >>96516680
>>96510825
I wonder why they were created that way? What was big A trying to do?
Anonymous No.96515152 [Report]
>>96505197
Why would the other Shard do that? Is it even possible, and how would it affect the planet?
Anonymous No.96515174 [Report]
>>96510228
Also, things like spren whose first time you see them is likely going to be as an amorphous manifestation.
Anonymous No.96515320 [Report] >>96516491
>>96512921
It might actually be a recent development. I think mateform uses lifespren, which are close to Cultivation, so it could be because of her they exist. On the other hand, I think it's just singers having so many specialized forms. If you have a form specialized for reproduction and all the aspects related to it, it makes sense that they don't have those traits outside of it. It's like animals that go through weird changes during mating season.
Anonymous No.96516205 [Report] >>96516357
>>96474434
It seems more genuine than trench crusade threads
Anonymous No.96516357 [Report] >>96519784
>>96516205
That's a low bar.
Anonymous No.96516491 [Report] >>96519950
>>96515320
Anonymous No.96516680 [Report] >>96524151
>>96512921
My going theory on Adonalsium is that it wasn't so much a person.
A big plot point in WaT is that any sufficiently large gathering of investiture left alone develops a will of its own.
Also note the -ium suffix and the fact that every shard of Adonalsium has an associated metal.
Also note adonalsium anagrams into "a mind, a soul" really cleanly.
I think adonalsium is just a mass of metal that somehow retained enough magical charge and remained untouched to develop a personality. And I think the reason the shard of Honour gets so autistic about math and patterns is because adonalsium is a natural occurrence, and nature is full of math and patterns when you look deep enough.

Roshar was Adonalsiums attempt at "perfect" nature, math expressing itself ad infinitum.
Anonymous No.96519784 [Report]
>>96516357
I've never done any trench crusade threads, are they really that bad?
Anonymous No.96519950 [Report] >>96520040 >>96520103
>>96516491
>calling someone a virgin/incel on /tg/ of all fucking places, just for being up to date with a fantasy world's lore

christ you're the worst kind of faggot
Anonymous No.96520040 [Report] >>96520103 >>96528032
>>96519950
Bro it was a comparison to Singers Mateform! That pic is the Atlantic Salmon, who transforms from a normal fish into that thing when they get ready to mate.
Anonymous No.96520103 [Report] >>96528032
>>96519950
I'm the anon he was replying to and I'm pretty sure it was a joke about mating changes- >>96520040 nevermind it definitely was.
Anonymous No.96520114 [Report]
>a month old thread still gets bumped to page 1
Jesus christ this board is dead.
Anonymous No.96522711 [Report] >>96522831
My collector's tier is coming in today, hopefully there's no damage.
Anonymous No.96522777 [Report]
>>96355385
>I don't like it, and I don't understand why you like it.
Because you're an autistic wretch and probably completely miserable to be around for most of the people you interact with.
Anonymous No.96522810 [Report]
>>96474434
>>96474481
>>96474520
>>96474573
What causes you to decide to be a shitposting subhuman?
Anonymous No.96522831 [Report] >>96522848
>>96522711
Did they send you notification? I have no update
Anonymous No.96522848 [Report]
>>96522831
I got an email a couple days ago with a tracking number, but remember that fulfillment is going to take 10 weeks for the US, so you might be months away from delivery.
Anonymous No.96523127 [Report] >>96523185 >>96523299
So are Spren not... Not dangerous at all?
Anonymous No.96523185 [Report] >>96523299
>>96523127
As of book 5, spren can pilot shardplate.
Anonymous No.96523299 [Report]
>>96523127
They are plenty dangerous in the Mental Realm, but in the Physical they're pretty much echoes of their real selves. But also >>96523185
Anonymous No.96524151 [Report] >>96524367
>>96516680
>A big plot point in WaT is that any sufficiently large gathering of investiture left alone develops a will of its own.
Don't forget the Father Machine in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter, which is non-sapient, but began to develop some intelligence due to all the Investiture in it.
Anonymous No.96524367 [Report] >>96525608
>>96524151
While there are planets that are worse, this one is just booooring.
Anonymous No.96524652 [Report]
>>96477567
Discarded.
Anonymous No.96525608 [Report] >>96526371
>>96524367
>While there are planets that are worse, this one is just booooring.
Which planets are worse?
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Anonymous No.96526371 [Report]
>>96525608
Both Lumar and Threnody feels like objectively horrific places to live on.
Anonymous No.96528032 [Report]
>>96520040
>>96520103
I'm retarded, my apologies.
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