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Anonymous No.96305009 >>96305188 >>96305210 >>96305212 >>96305225 >>96305396 >>96305558 >>96305616 >>96305667 >>96305900 >>96305946 >>96309778 >>96315300 >>96316392 >>96317000 >>96324055 >>96324122 >>96330572 >>96330748 >>96332183
Why most people don't get how to do fantasy races right?
Anonymous No.96305028
>ESL Typing
>Inane, uselessly vague question
>General disregard for the conventions of the hobby
>And naturally, no input or suggestions from the OP
What a waste of a good Dungeon Meshi picture, and a greater waste of a thread.
Anonymous No.96305188 >>96305844 >>96309012
>>96305009 (OP)
>OP is a retard
>OP has obviously only ever played D&D, a game designed for retards like him
>OP asks "Why are people as retarded as me retarded like me?"

Beautiful. No, wait. The opposite of that.
Anonymous No.96305210 >>96307368
>>96305009 (OP)
Tolkien didn't do them right either. Read norse mythology.
Anonymous No.96305212 >>96305220
>>96305009 (OP)
What setting are you making this retarded assumption about?
Anonymous No.96305220
>>96305212
It's DnD 5e. When OP is a retard, it's always DnD 5e.
Anonymous No.96305225 >>96316393 >>96344568
>>96305009 (OP)
...There's a wrong way to do fantasy races?
When exactly did that happen?
Anonymous No.96305396
>>96305009 (OP)
if you don't like how other authors do races then do it yourself
they're a loose enough concept for you to make your own interpretations
Anonymous No.96305558
>>96305009 (OP)
fantasy races are easy, you take a human, and then you exaggerate a feature on them, and then decide if the race likes or hates human beings, the only requirement of a race is if a human can have intercourse with it then it's a race
Anonymous No.96305616 >>96305930 >>96306223 >>96336536
>>96305009 (OP)
Orcs, Elves, Humans, and Dwarves work for a reason. They are all a reflection of actual human nature to some degree and are relatable for better or worse. I do not give a fuck about the plight of a 3 eye'd noodle demon from Xishi planet garbage dump. It's trash. Sorry to be cruel, but it's just true. Everyone has youtube. I've seen the videos, the ideas. I've seen it all. It sucks. Removing the human element from a human idea is not interesting to other humans. Things that become too bizarre and too fanciful are not appealing.

The the 3 legged noodle blacksmith and his larva spawn's troubles isn't interesting. You're making something for bugs.
Anonymous No.96305667
>>96305009 (OP)
What are the issues you see with most depictions of fantasy races? Provide a detailed and insightful response that's not obviously AI-generated.
Anonymous No.96305844
>>96305188
>Beautiful. No, wait. The opposite of that.
Anonymous No.96305900 >>96317168
>>96305009 (OP)
>Why most people don't get
OP posted this thread on a recycled chinese phone while squatting over an open-air toilet
Anonymous No.96305930 >>96305971 >>96305986 >>96305989
>>96305616
>i can only sympathize with people who look act and think like me
Have you never heard of xenofiction?
Anonymous No.96305946
>>96305009 (OP)
That's because fantasy races are ultimately superfluous
Human-only master race
Anonymous No.96305971 >>96305989 >>96306006 >>96306096 >>96354919
>>96305930
Nobody cares about xenofiction. How many books do you know where the protagonist is part of a hive mind? How many sci-fi books take place outside of more than one galaxy? Why do most aliens have human faces? Because the consumers of media look through and empathise with things that have human like characteristics. You could have something with a legit alien but people won't buy it, just like people usually hate pointless ugly characters. There's a reason why something like Avatar is a huge success, while furry shit, and something like Dark Crystal which is ridiculous abstract fantasy with no humans is a failure.
Anonymous No.96305986 >>96305989
>>96305930
Even if he did, he'd say it's all face trash, made for tranny lefties, otherkin, and race haters. Why even bother asking, seeing a post like that. Why bite bait? And if it's not bait, even more reason not to bother asking...
Anonymous No.96305989
>>96305930
>>96305986
Wow, how did I even guess?>>96305971
Anonymous No.96306006
>>96305971
>There's a reason why something like Avatar is a huge success, while furry shit [...] is a failure.
furry shit seems to be doing alright
Anonymous No.96306096 >>96316337 >>96316848 >>96334419
>>96305971
>Nobody cares about xenofiction
Pic related.
Anonymous No.96306105
>the more popular something is, the objectively better it is
I bet you like cocomelon.
Anonymous No.96306223
>>96305616
>Things that become too bizarre and too fanciful are not appealing.
Usually yeah although personally as a humanocentric-fag who does still use the classic races I would say the bigger issue isn't people getting too weird (it's rare for anyone to go that far outside of greentext stories and spergy threads) but that there's often no real contrast to keep the weird stuff weird.
That's why I like to split my setting into the "wilderness" i.e. past borderlands/off-roads/mountains/dungeons/planar travel (can get extremely weird and varying levels of dangerous) and civilization (more grounded/safer but still very fantasy focused) to actually have get a feeling when you're safe back home and when you're out there ready to see some shit.

That said as a counterpoint personally there's nothing I've found more excruciating in gaming than listening to a DM blather on at length about what kind of local food is served at an inn. Being weird has been a lesser issue in actual games.
I feel similarly about surface-level tolkien-ripoffs (unless the entire point is playing in middle-earth like MERP), "realism"-gaming ala Harn, mudcore stuff (I make an exception for early WFRP because it's really fantasy call of cthulhu) and I even find historical stand-ins to be terrible roughly half the time, usually because they're an excuse for the DM to sperg about their favorite time period in a particularly boring way instead of an excuse to have the players get to run around doing PC things as vikings, mongols or ancient hellenes.
Anonymous No.96307368 >>96309466
>>96305210
>Read norse mythology

Literally not possible.
Anonymous No.96309012
>>96305188
>OP has played
Bold of you to make such an assumption
Anonymous No.96309466 >>96309632 >>96315864
>>96307368
I know zoomies aren't used to reading something that goes beyond the scope of a reddit post, but calling it impossible is a bit of a stretch. Nowadays you can even get the translations for free.
Anonymous No.96309632
>>96309466
Ntab
>whoosh!
Anonymous No.96309778
>>96305009 (OP)
Your grammar is really wrong this question is inane and unclear as to exactly what its referring to. I'm not going to be as mean as others here, but if we don't start correcting this stuff the internet is just going to get that much worse that much faster.
Anonymous No.96315231
SAR! SAAAR!!! YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET MAD ABOUT LESS BLONDE WHITE WOMAN BOBS AND VAGENE IN TABLETOP GAMES!!! DO NOT REDEEM!!!
Anonymous No.96315300 >>96315848
>>96305009 (OP)
The only way to "do it right" is by not regurgitating Tolkien's races for the 979678557th time
Anonymous No.96315848
>>96315300
tolkien is rarely played straight tho
Anonymous No.96315864 >>96316584 >>96354931 >>96361883
>>96309466
Snorri Snorrison's personal fanfiction of what Norse myth was is not real Norse myth.
Anonymous No.96316337 >>96342058
>>96306096
>what if humans but cats
Nice xenofiction you got there.
Anonymous No.96316392
>>96305009 (OP)
I am guessing you mean when they just make them humans with a physical trait to make them different from humans.

It's cause most people are too lazy and don't know how to think outside of the box and at the same time think if they change a few things it be good enough. Hints why they often whine when people call out their bad design and all.
Anonymous No.96316393 >>96317159 >>96317375 >>96332409 >>96355595
>>96305225
Gay orcs that have the exact same personality as humans, just different culture.

Orangutans would not be as violent or vicious as chimps raised in a chimp-like society.
German shepherds aren't going to eat babies as much as pitbulls do in a peaceful, friendly culture.
Anonymous No.96316584 >>96316924 >>96320097
>>96315864
Okay, cool. Try the Edda.
Anonymous No.96316848
>>96306096
Warriors was based, but it's not exactly a mainstream series. Also, it predated furfags by a slight amount of time. I don't think it resonates with people anymore unless they're some manner of queer.
Anonymous No.96316924 >>96316969 >>96316971
>>96316584
not the one you responding to, but the norse didn'y write anything. what we have is the heavily edited fanfiction of christian priests.
Anonymous No.96316969 >>96316994
>>96316924
> fanfiction
Anonymous No.96316971
>>96316924
It's written down form of oral tradition regarded as a source for norse mythology in the general consensus. You can of course be anal about semantics, but that just turns you from a giant sperg into a giant sperg that doesn't get shit done.
Anonymous No.96316994 >>96317008
>>96316969
fanfiction is used in here as a disparaging term to indicate someone that copied something at the superficial level while lacking the cultural background, tools of proper historical preservation and talent to understand it beyond the very superficial level.

But if you need that spelled out, nobody can save you from your autism.
Anonymous No.96317000
>>96305009 (OP)
>Why most people
Anonymous No.96317008 >>96317066 >>96317070
>>96316994
>fanfiction is used in here ...
wrong
>But if you need that spelled out, nobody can save you from your autism
says the idiot who is arguing with a dead monk.
Anonymous No.96317066 >>96317072
>>96317008
you keep saying wrong but you haven't made a single argument to substantiate your words. I suppose it shows who's talking from their head and who from thei ass. I'm still witing for something with substance from you, come one, you can so it, i believe in you.
Anonymous No.96317070 >>96317075 >>96317078 >>96317080
>>96317008 #
you keep saying wrong but you haven't made a single argument to substantiate your words. I suppose it shows who's talking from their head and who from thei ass. I'm still witing for something with substance from you, come on, you can do it, i believe in you.
Anonymous No.96317072 >>96317075 >>96317076
>>96317066
ok, you don't know what fanfiction means.
>fiction written by a fan of, and featuring characters from, a particular TV series, film, etc.
Anonymous No.96317073
>Why most people don't get how to do fantasy races right?
Fantasy Races were a mistake and fuck you and fuck tolkien for promoting them
Anonymous No.96317075 >>96317079
>>96317072
>>96317070
wtf just happened
Anonymous No.96317076 >>96317083
>>96317072
Aaaand disappointed by you again, just like your parents.
Anonymous No.96317078 >>96317090
>>96317070
NTA
But neither have you. Your only gripe is that it was written down by a monk. You're on par with danger hairs that scream about "cultural approproation" as soon as a white person shows a slight hint of interest in a non european culture.
Anonymous No.96317079 >>96317083
>>96317075
minor grammar fixes.
Anonymous No.96317080 >>96317083 >>96317098
>>96317070
>from thei ass
>spelling error
lol
Anonymous No.96317083
>>96317076
>>96317079
>>96317080
lol fail
Anonymous No.96317090 >>96317104
>>96317078
my gripe is that what we have is not the original norse mythology but something that was transcribed by people who didn't understand the original material because it came from people who thought their god was the end all of everything.

People that idolize norse edda don't understand it's already a parody of what it actually was, much like people complaining races today are a parody of what they were in mythology, that's just how human culture works and spread.
Anonymous No.96317098 >>96317113 >>96317135
>>96317080
still no good arguments but ad personam over an imprecise touchscreen, keep proving me right, you're doing great :^)
Anonymous No.96317104 >>96317119
>>96317090
>by people who didn't understand the original material because it came from people who thought their god was the end all of everything.
that's your fanfiction
Anonymous No.96317113 >>96317127 >>96317135 >>96334462
>>96317098
>imprecise touchscreen
>The newfag admits to using the phone to argue about religion on 4chan.
Bro, you really don't know how to do this.
Anonymous No.96317119 >>96317133
>>96317104
>that's your fanfiction
Nah, that's the opinion of people who actually studied the subject matter instead of claiming foul play to stuff they don't like to hear on the internet (and honestly i don't understand why so many people are triggered by it, is it "i like it so i don't want its shortcomings criticized"?).
Anonymous No.96317127 >>96317134
>>96317113
>>The newfag admits to using the phone to argue about religion on 4chan.
lol, i enjoy this debates but i have a life to carry on, i'm not lucky enough to be so utterly devoid of purpose that i can spend all my time on a computer.
Anonymous No.96317133
>>96317119
Anonymous No.96317134 >>96317145
>>96317127
>I'm a normalfag
Yes, we know.
Anonymous No.96317135 >>96317140 >>96317144
>>96317098
>>96317113
can anyone bring the thread down any harder without a connected pair of neurons?
Anonymous No.96317140
>>96317135
>connected pair of neurons
where do you think we are?
Anonymous No.96317144 >>96317154
>>96317135
It's a shitty thread, even before the neopagan arrived.
Anonymous No.96317145 >>96317165
>>96317134
>not being autistic
anon, i... don't know what to tell you...
i can assure you eating shit is not good even if you mock other people for not eating it.
Anonymous No.96317154 >>96317169 >>96317180
>>96317144
Lol, i didn't know having a little research knowledge was being neopagan... ok, i guess.
Anonymous No.96317159 >>96317173 >>96334475
>>96316393
murder perpetrators
89% men
11% women
and these are peaceful conditions
when you look at who starts wars and participates aka organized vs random killing
it only gets worse


men shouldnt be allowed in positions of power
allowed to have guns
drive
ect
clearly men cant be trusted
Anonymous No.96317165 >>96317172
>>96317145
Anonymous No.96317168 >>96334392
>>96305900
Anonymous No.96317169 >>96317177 >>96317185
>>96317154
ok, what is your religion?
Anonymous No.96317172 >>96317179
>>96317165
>reaction image, no argument in sight
so deep, very smart, much wow.
Anonymous No.96317173 >>96317200 >>96318816
>>96317159
>/tg/ - Traditional Games
You're right, only male characters should be allowed.
Anonymous No.96317177 >>96317182
>>96317169
i'm an atheist
Anonymous No.96317179 >>96317189
>>96317172
Since I was right all along, I don't consider this an argument.
Anonymous No.96317180 >>96317188 >>96317197
>>96317154
Anon, you are currently in the process of being trolled. Just felt like letting you know.
Anonymous No.96317182 >>96317190 >>96317192
>>96317177
ok, now I understand. you're a redditor who hates Christians.
Anonymous No.96317185 >>96317195
>>96317169
catholic
every good cathoilic has a shrine to a few of his minor gods
Anonymous No.96317188
>>96317180
Don't ruin the game for me, I was about to get to the fun part.
Anonymous No.96317189 >>96317195
>>96317179
curious, it's been the level of arguments i've received up until now. Keep up the good job.
Anonymous No.96317190 >>96317199
>>96317182
you spend to much time on reddit anon
also your persecution complex is very unmasculine
Anonymous No.96317192 >>96317199
>>96317182
> i ask questions just for pretext to make ad personam
so brain, very much wow.
Anonymous No.96317195 >>96334481
>>96317185
weak bait, but I'm feeling generous today.
>>96317189
>curious
wow, this nigga is really angry.
Anonymous No.96317197 >>96317203
>>96317180
aw, but i enjoy looking at people acting like retards because they think it makes them the look cool... let me enjoy the shit eating monkeys a little more.
Anonymous No.96317199 >>96317204 >>96317209
>>96317190
>no u
weak
>>96317192
Yes, it's your fault for responding.
newfag
Anonymous No.96317200 >>96317207 >>96318816
>>96317173
agreed
its "murder" hobo
not
"try to wrangle hormone controlled chuds so they wont beat their neighbors children to death" drifters
no female characters
Anonymous No.96317203 >>96317211 >>96317212
>>96317197
wow, the newfag is really angry.
Is this your first day here or what?
Anonymous No.96317204 >>96317213
>>96317199
Anonymous No.96317207 >>96318816
>>96317200
/thread
Anonymous No.96317209 >>96317217
>>96317199
>Yes, it's your fault for responding.
newfag
lol, you say that as i'm not having fun.
Anonymous No.96317211 >>96317217
>>96317203
>wow, the newfag is really angry.
anon, you''re projecting
Anonymous No.96317212 >>96317217
>>96317203
Anonymous No.96317213 >>96317218
>>96317204
>I humiliated him so much that he had to steal my reaction image
Anonymous No.96317217 >>96317231
>>96317209
>>96317211
>>96317212
Anonymous No.96317218 >>96317225
>>96317213
that was not me, lol
Anonymous No.96317225 >>96317236
>>96317218
>I managed to make more than one person angry
I didn't even argue once and I've already won three arguments in a row.
Anonymous No.96317231 >>96317249
>>96317217
Anonymous No.96317236 >>96317249
>>96317225
>I didn't even argue once and I've already won three arguments in a row.
Or 3 people know you're dumb... but believe what let's you sleep at night, anon.
Anonymous No.96317249 >>96317276
>>96317231
>>96317236
>The retarded newfag is still crying and responding to my comments.
Anonymous No.96317256
The strongest race is and always will be the troll.
Anonymous No.96317276 >>96317284
>>96317249
Anonymous No.96317284 >>96317300
>>96317276
Anonymous No.96317300 >>96317308
>>96317284
if insisting on newfag is the worst you can do i can find more kindergartener for you to argue with.
Anonymous No.96317308 >>96317338
>>96317300
>the nigga thinks we're arguing
lol
Anonymous No.96317338 >>96317353
>>96317308
>projection
Anonymous No.96317353 >>96334486
>>96317338
I think I broke the bot
Anonymous No.96317375 >>96317395
>>96316393
The fuck is this nonsense? Do you even play games, good sir?
Anonymous No.96317395 >>96317471
>>96317375
He says that the races in the games have to behave like this, for example the orcs have to be violent.
Nowadays, this is prohibited because some consider it to imply racism against black or brown people. The anon is complaining about it and wants it to go back to how it was before.
If the only difference between an orc and a dwarf is only cultural but they are the same in their biology, the races lose their purpose.
Anonymous No.96317471 >>96317495 >>96334491
>>96317395
Oh, it's /pol/ shitposting
Nevermind
Anonymous No.96317495 >>96322828
>>96317471
>Oh, it's /pol/ shitposting
Are all the opinions you don't like like that for you?
Also, you're a fucking newfag.
Anonymous No.96318816
>>96317173
>>96317200
>>96317207
Yes, only male characters faggots are nogames.
Anonymous No.96320097 >>96320403 >>96325103
>>96316584
The Edda is a fucking book of fragments, you stupid fucking midwit-tier pseudo-intellectual faggot. Imagine pointing to Hesiod's Theogony and saying "there, that's the whole Greek myth" without any self-awareness whatsoever. Imagine being such a fucking idiot you don't know just how much of Norse myth is forever lost, to the extent that scholars all agree it's essentially a dead branch of mythology. We at least have a vague idea of just how much of Greek and Egyptian myth is lost to time. Norse shit is so fucking fragmentary we barely have a handful of poems, lacking all context, and it all disagrees and contradicts itself. We don't even know what we don't know about Norse myth, and we never will. Fucking Beowulf is the best preserved, oldest piece of authentic Norse mythology we have left today, and it's Old English, not even Old Norse. The entire sphere of Norse mythology is completely compromised and FUBAR, a playground for fucking neopagans and wiccan whores to make up shit wholesale to just suit whatever stupid shit they want to believe. You are such a stupid little shit.
Anonymous No.96320403 >>96332921
>>96320097
He didn't say that the Edda was all of Norse mythology, but that to read that mythology you should try to read that.
Anonymous No.96322828 >>96323675
>>96317495
fuck off street shitter
Anonymous No.96323675 >>96324569
>>96322828
>He hates /pol/ and the Indians
>He suffers from a tremendous case of rent free
Apparently wanting orcs to be villains makes you an Indian Nazi according to the Newfags.
Anonymous No.96324055
>>96305009 (OP)
Most mid fantasy writers tend to other do human with a gimmick and X with a random gimmick to be different. To be fair, most people just fucking want the Elves, Dwarves, etc not author's fetish as a race unless it just big titty elves and all. The classic everyone changes the classic races so much, people just want untouched stuff cause they never get it.
Anonymous No.96324122
>>96305009 (OP)
Because they insist on calling them races, as in differently-shaped humans

All of these varieties should be unique in ways only culture can not explain, with different abilities as a result
Anonymous No.96324569 >>96324893
>>96323675
>No sage
Seething bumpfag, apparently.
Anonymous No.96324893
>>96324569
bump
Anonymous No.96325103 >>96332921
>>96320097
Kek, I never said it was the whole norse mythology and every mythology and tradition is full of contradictions. Yet the Edda is a part of norse mythology, and a decent enough read. Your personal feud with it has no bearing on the scientific and general consensus.
Anonymous No.96330572 >>96330720
>>96305009 (OP)
Traditional games?
Anonymous No.96330720 >>96330873
>>96330572
fuck you, this thread was already dying.
Anonymous No.96330748
>>96305009 (OP)
Define "right."
Anonymous No.96330873 >>96331104
>>96330720
Thanks for the bumb :)
Anonymous No.96331104 >>96334505
>>96330873
You don't know what sage is?
Anonymous No.96332183
>>96305009 (OP)
>how to do fantasy races right
there is no one right way
for example I would argue Frieren is first correct depiction of unlimitely logn lived elves
Tolkien elves had nothing on it, when you realize some witnessed last ice age, this should have impact on behaviour, like treating humans like fruit flies
Anonymous No.96332205 >>96334509 >>96334522
>121 replies
Great job, guys. The first post recognizes this as a troll thread, and you idiots are still posting in it.
Anonymous No.96332409
>>96316393
>exact same personality as humans
>just different culture.
lol at the immediate contradiction
Anonymous No.96332921 >>96333002 >>96334516
>>96320403
>erm ackshully he was saying
Fuck off, faggot. I'm saying he can't point to "Norse myth" that isn't compromised and you, apparently, have decided to suck his cock on this. You could try reading my posts instead of just his, but that's probably impossible for an illiterate bitch like you.
>>96325103
>Kek, I never said it was the whole norse mythology
Then where is the "whole" Norse mythology you insipid fucking faggot? You should be pointing at actually useful sources instead of wasting time naming random shit you heard of one time at a neopagan convention yet never bothered to read. Oh right, you can't. Because there aren't any such sources extant in the world. Beowulf is the closest we have left and it's still heavily compromised.
>every mythology and tradition is full of contradictions.
The contradictions are worsened because we have so little to draw upon.
>Yet the Edda is a part of norse mythology,
Which one? The Poetic Edda, collection of poems that lack context which was supposed to be provided by the oral tradition that they were based upon? Or the Prose Edda, which gives us a literal Q&A section about Norse myth, lacking all of the actual source material? Both are pitiful. That is the problem. You would know this if you had ever actually studied Norse myth at a real institution, rather than pretending you have, you insipid little pseudo-intellectual cunt.
>Your personal feud with it has no bearing on the scientific and general consensus.
The "scientific" consensus is that Norse mythology is a dead tradition because nearly all of it was preserved orally and we only retain a handful of fragmentary retellings, many of them heavily compromised by Christian authors including Beowulf, which is still the best preserved complete tradition we have of authentic Norse mythology, yet still has been heavily edited to suit Christian standards.
Anonymous No.96333002 >>96339501
>>96332921
>Then where is the "whole" Norse mythology you insipid fucking faggot?
I never did, faggot
>Whaaa whaaaaa whaa
Not worth reading, not worth responding to.
Anonymous No.96334392
>>96317168
?
Anonymous No.96334419 >>96342058
>>96306096
some gay shit nobody ever heard of, great example lol
Anonymous No.96334462
>>96317113
can't afford a phone? lol third worlder
Anonymous No.96334475 >>96336077
>>96317159
lol women can't even commit murder properly
Anonymous No.96334481
>>96317195
yep, you certainly are furious :)
Anonymous No.96334486 >>96337954
>>96317353
Nah but he obviously broke you lol
Anonymous No.96334491
>>96317471
There are fundamental biological differences between the races and there is nothing you can do about it
Anonymous No.96334505
>>96331104
Clearly you don't :)
Anonymous No.96334509
>>96332205
Why wouldn't we, retard?
Anonymous No.96334516
>>96332921
I'm right and you're wrong and I've studied it more than you have :)
Anonymous No.96334522
>>96332205
lurk more
This is SOP here on /tg/
Anonymous No.96335725
OP here, I'm bumping the thread to slide other, better threads and actively make the board worse on purpose. I won't get banned and the jannies don't care :)
Anonymous No.96336077
>>96334475
>t. retard who kills with his B.O
Anonymous No.96336241
Reply if assblasted :)
Anonymous No.96336536 >>96336557
>>96305616
Neurotypical response. Please, learn to extend your circle of empathy.
Anonymous No.96336557
>>96336536
No. Empathy is reserved for those who will return it in turn. In other words, your loved ones, your pets, your close friends. It should not even extend to the entirety of your own species, let alone other species.
Anonymous No.96336591
>96336557
All beings are worthy of love. Please, learn to extend your circle of empathy.
Anonymous No.96336625
Not from me, they're not. I decide who I care about. Not you. Fuck off.
Anonymous No.96337954 >>96341953
>>96334486
>no u
kek
Anonymous No.96339501
>>96333002
>I never did, faggot
So you agree then that there isn't a real body of Norse myth to draw upon. Good.
>Not worth reading, not worth responding to.
lol, thanks for the concession, armchair scholar
Anonymous No.96341953
>>96337954
Yep, you replied because you're furious :)
Anonymous No.96342058 >>96342121
>>96316337
>>96334419
Maximum cope
Anonymous No.96342121
>>96342058
yeah by you lol
Anonymous No.96342905 >>96354238
>monster races in games are just IRL cultures now
>Orcs are Black/Mexican
>Hobgoblins are Japanese
>Goblins are Jewish
>this is less apparently less racist to the sanfrantypes than giving them their own cultures
???
Anonymous No.96344568 >>96344897 >>96347851
>>96305225
>...There's a wrong way to do fantasy races?
Yes, anything too self-destructive to exist. Also generic race but evil. Also 1 note races.
Anonymous No.96344897
>>96344568
Nothing wrong with any of those thobeight. Not everything has to be a reddit approved le rationalist realist fantasy.
Anonymous No.96344967 >>96347855
>Open thread
>Expect bumpfaggery that goes nowhere
>Actually just an unending chain of playground insults
Well, at least you guys aren't getting swamped in the same tired old conversation, I'll give you that
Anonymous No.96347851
>>96344568
Those are all good ways to do races.
Anonymous No.96347855 >>96348687
>>96344967
lol pretending to be someone else because you got owned
Anonymous No.96348687 >>96348693
>>96347855
No no, I just think the whole bunch of you are retards. But refreshing retards. I am genuinely thankful.
Also good job feeling called out anon :^)
Anonymous No.96348693 >>96348754
>>96348687
What do you mean called out? You were wrong and you lost, which is why you're again trying to pretend to be someone else lmao
Anonymous No.96348754 >>96348756
>>96348693
Feel free to feel that way anon. Nothing I can say can convince you I am new to this thread and that's just fine. You go and have a wonderful day
Anonymous No.96348756 >>96348785
>>96348754
You lose.
Anonymous No.96348785 >>96348789
>>96348756
If that's what makes you happy anon. I will gladly admit my loss of it brings you joy
Anonymous No.96348789 >>96348839
>>96348785
No, you'll admit it because you lost.
Anonymous No.96348839 >>96348844
>>96348789
Anon you seem very vindictive. I am just playing along with your delusions because I'd hoped you'd be satisfied. Alas, it would seem you won't let yourself know peace and so I shall disturb yours no longer
Anonymous No.96348844
>>96348839
No, you're trying to get the last word because you lost. You won't.
Anonymous No.96354238 >>96354945
>>96342905
>>monster races in games are just IRL cultures now
They have always been based on cultures of reality, it is not something new.
Anonymous No.96354919 >>96354958
>>96305971
Dark Crystal was and remains a cult classic you fucking retard zoomie. You might as well say everyone hated Labyrinth or Neverending Story.
Anonymous No.96354931 >>96354971
>>96315864
Sturlsson, you literal submongoloid.
>fanfiction
Like the Inferno and Paradise Lost?
Anonymous No.96354945 >>96356463 >>96361375
>>96354238
They say orcs are based on Russians but I think it's the other way around
Anonymous No.96354958 >>96355203 >>96367266
>>96354919
All of those movies are ass and only tasteless children like them
Anonymous No.96354971 >>96355068 >>96355209 >>96356479
>>96354931
Yes. Like those. They're fanfiction, and not actual myths. Retard.
Anonymous No.96355068 >>96356479
>>96354971
holy based
Anonymous No.96355203
>>96354958
You probably think Skibidy Toilet is high art
Anonymous No.96355209 >>96355220 >>96356479 >>96356506
>>96354971
All myth is "fanfiction" by your standards then numbnuts. gb2reddit
Anonymous No.96355220 >>96356479
>>96355209
Wrong.
Anonymous No.96355595
>>96316393
what if in that setting Orcs aren't naturally more violent or vicious than humans on a biological level ?
Anonymous No.96356463 >>96356584 >>96356628
>>96354945
In fact, they are based on the Germans
Anonymous No.96356479 >>96356539 >>96356584
>>96354971
>>96355068
>>96355209
>>96355220
Are you guys still arguing about this? Are you idiots or what?
Anonymous No.96356506 >>96356584
>>96355209
No, just the fanfiction is fanfiction. What separates Inferno and Paradise Lost from the Eddas is that Inferno and Paradise Lost are fanfiction of existing traditions, and the Eddas are fanfiction of a dead tradition.
Contrast with the Iliad, the Odyssey, Beowulf, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, etc. which are all intact traditions of the source cultures. They are primary sources of their host mythology, some heavily based on historical record like Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Even if some of them are altered by outside influence like Beowulf having been edited by a Christian monk quite a bit to make it more palatable to his fellow Christians, they are still a complete and intact tradition in and of themselves. Inferno and Paradise Lost are outgrowths of Christian traditions, and without the source material they are based upon, a great deal of their meaning would be lost.
Anonymous No.96356539 >>96356569 >>96356584
>>96356479
Why are you pretending to be someone else? Embarrassed that badly? lol
Anonymous No.96356569 >>96356584 >>96356600
>>96356539
L
Anonymous No.96356584
>>96356569
>>96356539
>>96356506
>>96356479
>>96356463
Anonymous No.96356600
>>96356569
L
Anonymous No.96356628 >>96364465
>>96356463
As was most of Europe
Anonymous No.96361375
>>96354945
The idea of Orcs was they were just the "raiding" groups at the time. They weren't a based of a group of people
Anonymous No.96361883 >>96366926
>>96315864
Snorri only wrote the Prose Eddas as a a compilation of surviving stories from iceland
He didn't wrote the Poetic Eddas who are much older and academic textual analysis have pointed many to many consistent irregularities in the rhymes and meter that indicates that they were originally composed in a more archaic form of the language that predates christianisation
So no, the Eddas aren't 'fanfic' by definition
Anonymous No.96364465
>>96356628
ok
Anonymous No.96364484
Seriously, you guys should look up what fanfiction means and stop talking about religion on /tg/.
Anonymous No.96366926
>>96361883
>Snorri only wrote the Prose Eddas as a a compilation of surviving stories from iceland
Sturluson's Prose Edda is extremely suspect. Scholars are quite sure he wrote large portions of it rather than collecting them from around his kingdom, which casts the entire product into doubt as a 'compilation.' It's more like a personal ego project. Even if we discount the fact a great portion of its contents are his own work as a poet, it lacks the context of the oral tradition it was founded on. Again, we go back to my original example of treating the Theogony as the sole source on Greek myth. It's a ridiculous notion.
>He didn't wrote the Poetic Eddas who are much older and academic textual analysis have pointed many to many consistent irregularities in the rhymes and meter that indicates that they were originally composed in a more archaic form of the language that predates christianisation
It's amazing to me that you can write this with zero self-awareness of what you're actually saying. You literally admit the Poetic Edda is compromised both in language and probably also in contents. Yet you still try to present that like it makes the Edda look more authentic?
>So no, the Eddas aren't 'fanfic' by definition
Oh they very much are. Just like Beowulf calling upon the Christian god for strength is fanfiction. The difference is, we know those parts of Beowulf are fanfiction additions by the Christian monks who preserved the Old English oral tradition in written form. With the Eddas, we lack so much of the entire sphere of Norse myth, because so little of it was actually preserved, that we can't even tell how much of the Prose Edda was Snorri Faggison's fanfiction, only guess at it, while we know the Poetic Edda was fucked by translation at a minimum. And since these are our only halfway authentic sources, we have to guess at everything that was lost to time.
Anonymous No.96367266
>>96354958
>t. a retarded child