Thread 96314958

Cute little fella edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96304580


>Official AoS website:
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>Tools
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>Thread question:
What terrain would you like to see made for AoS?

>TQ
Silver tower
Chaos realm stuff
The castrated cock of nagash
Religious stuff in general

>>96314958 (OP)
This guy is cute, little, and fella don't you think guys?

>>96315057
I miss Roll Models and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
The edits were at least as funny as the normal strip

>TQ
Morathi Statue (Buffs close units)
Khainite Sacrificial Altar (Deals MW and gives buffs as models die around it)
Khainite Shadow Paths (Allows Infantry units reinforcements at half strength)

>>96314958 (OP)
SoB faction terrain, thats just a big gargant corpse

>>96315088
Mega Gargant turd that debuffs enemies

>>96315057
if your faction doesn't have a cute little fella it's a cringe faggot faction

Man why do all the hobby shops I can find nearby all suck? The one I used to go to moved further away and my nearest has a shopping area hardly bigger than my bedroom. And most I can't even see their inventory online.

>>96315151
Cute your factions cute little fellas. Which ones don't have any?

>>96315162
Sylvaneth, Kharadron, Ossiarchs, SoB, off the top of my head. I feel like Chaos always has some sort of little fella, and you'd think Khorne wouldn't but he has his dogs and they're all good dogs

>>96315193
Not true, Kharadrons just got a cute little fella

>>96315226
that is indeed a cute little fella

>>96315226
They've had one.

>>96315193

>Sylvaneth
Spirits and bugs

>Kharadrons
Metal birds

>Sons of Behemat
The little red guys on Brodd??

>>96315235
Well shoot I never bought those guys. I need to get thunderers now so I can paint that bird to look like my other parakeet

>>96315253
>Budgie
Based. Loved when I had a few. I had one like yours but she had a yellow head, her mate was a big, fat, and green dummy with yellow head. They had a BEAUTIFUL purple son, and then a second clutch with a grey son with so much character and his brother who was a stuck up and skinny clone of his father.

>>96315238
mmmm debatable if spirits count as CLFs since they're humanoid. All of Death would count as having CLFs due to Nagash and that sounds wrong

>>96315263
>Purple
Didn't know they could get that color, but it sounds beautiful. I've only seen green, yellow, blue, and grey. And the two I've got are blue and yellow.
Extremely great pets, though. Would only own birds for the rest of my life if it were just up to me (SO wants a cat when they die). I do have to throw them an empty model box from time to time to keep them from destroying my window trim.

>>96315066
It wasn't funny but having a bad corporate slop comic is fun.

Where are the Death little fellas?

>>96315313
FeC have their own gargoylians that got mentioned in the last battletome, their delusions causing the little realm-spirits their twisted faith attracts to morph into weird and fucked up mirrors of the CoS ones

>>96315313
cute lil' birdy

>>96315109
Make the objective kicking rule work on it, but for all gargants

>>96315057
quirky faggot shit fits so well in the aos univers

>>96315401
Referring to something as "quirky faggot shit" when you (i assume) trying to be the champion of Fantasy, is an excerices of mental gymnastics that will win you an olympic medal

>>96315409
what a faggy post

>>96315412
You’ve got cock on the mind

>>96315416
that's what a faggot would say

>>96315418
You would know what they would say. Cock sleeve warming aaah.

>>96315329
Beak bats looks terribly stupid ngl, especially when a regular bat is thrown in
Do you get it? He's not a Falconer, they have beaks though if you missed that haha

>>96315435
>Beak bats
tf are you talking about?

>>96315423
You're on a faggot spree,which is fitting.

>>96315329
Is this going to cost $80?

Also: Othar should have been in the new NH Spearhead or at least some new hero like that new Vitorolic guy.

>>96315439
NTA but I guess I see it, the big bat token has a mouth that looks kind of like a beak, but I like it more now I see it

>>96315450
Nah, $40-$45 for sure

>>96315506
meh I'd pay $22 max.

>>96315494
I think it looks like it because of how its modeled on the sprues, its emant to be a snout, just looks like a beak because the sprues cannot have any details in that spot

>>96315412
Yeah you've made a bunch of them, is that on purpose?

>>96314958 (OP)
>What terrain would you like to see made for AoS?
DoT terrain that's a portal to a Silver Tower — but not actually usable as a portal, because it's clogged with a hoard of magical tomes and trinkets that can be sifted through instead.

>>96315313
Othar Half-King has a comically tiny nighthaunt familiar

seraphon are cool

>TQ
Ulguan port town. Like port royal but darker and edgier, maybe with decorations as if the town was just about to have some sort of celebration before /yourdudes/ and /mydudes/ fought for their clay

>>96314958 (OP)
It’s an obvious one, but a CoS cogfort. Something big, towing the line between terrain and a unit by having a decent attacking profile and the ability to move around. It’d really make cos armies feel more like they’re on crusade to settle wherever they end up if they had a big thing that scuttled around supporting them, rather than just being troop lines. Maybe throw some duardin gunners on there or something, whatever

>>96315702
I wonder how it works. Did he give a knife to an undead fetus?

>>96314527
Looks good, you kind of salvaged those models for me. Wasn't a fan but the pipe head should be in every dwarf collection.
>>96315235
Such a cool kit I'm surprised you don't own some already. Guess you missed out on them gutting the weapon options though so that's a good thing.

>>96314958 (OP)
>What terrain would you like to see made for AoS?

Would love to see some realm specific terrain sets. Even if the themes are kinda generic, I think GW could put an interesting spin on it.

>>96316263
I do wish they explored the visual identity of a lot more of the realms, a book entirely of lore and art for each one would be cool, maybe with instructions on how to realmify terrain and bases.

Har Kuron, it's fall and the story of Morathi becoming a proper god is one of my favourite parts of all AoS. Is this novel worth reading to get new Har Kuron lore/a feel for what life is like in what was once Anvilgard?
It has me tempted but only if Har Kuron and those who rule and live there gets a large focus.

>>96315705
Yes they are, the models are fantastic

>>96316370
I don't get it. If they're aliens from space why don't they have space lasers and sci fi tech? Are their rockets made of rocks and vines or something?

>>96316375
I dunno, maybe because it would look a bit out of place in a fantasy setting?

>>96316375
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

Theories as to what the remainder of 2025 holds for AOS now we're nearing the end of the roadmap?

>>96316442
I unno. We get everything by the end of October. Maybe maggotkin and sylvaneth? It’s time for Aos to shine unless 40K pulls a dawnbringsrs level of a narrative drop for the end of campaign.

>>96316442
We finished the roadmap, so how knows? I hope we see new stuff for Cities of Sigmar, Ogor Mawtribes and maybe Pestigors for Nurgle.

>>96316375
They do have those things and you’re looking at examples of them

>>96316442
Nighthaunt and FEC hit the shelves in Seotember, HoH gets the box set in November and full releas December-January and that's it for the year.
Underworlds will get 1 or 2 bands

>>96316494
Anon the books for fec and Nighthaunt are literally dropping this weekend.
Everything that was shown in the previous show, will be released before the next show in the end of October.

>>96316494
Isnt Hashut in October?

>>96315253
>>96315291
Based kharadron budgiebro. Nice work on your vongrimm anon.
>>96315313
Ossiarch have their own little boney shitbulls.
>>96316442
Nh and fec by the end of the week, we'll probably get chorfs from september through october. After that it's anybody's guess, though I did pick up that maggotkin are supposedly the christmas release, with their new wave and stuff.
So probably another pity hero or two in november and early october. Sylvaneth ?

Anyone got the 4th ed SCE book?

>>96316356
No and worse it tries to downplay the situation by pinning the blame on the Darkling Covens Sorceress in charge.
DoK are totally nice you guys...

>>96315439
Look at them? He's holding one with a nose, the others have beaks

>>96316375
>why don't they have space lasers and sci fi tech?
a lot of it broke down
a lot of the rest is unusable because the people who knew how to use them are dead
a lot of the rest is reserved for special occasions and highly revered

>>96316557
They token very ckearly has lips and teeth inside the mouth

>>96316375
Saurus are already the sci-fi tech. They're mass produced murder robots made of meat instead of steel

>>96315873
Oh god I would love a unit of cos selves and duardin and the cog fort as well as not great swords as elite infantry

>>96316538
Looking for a link to the 4th Edition Sigmarines?
Try this one
filescatboxmoe slash hsl68ipdf

>>96316778
Very good

>>96316651
One bat has a nose and mouth
Two have beaks
Look at them

>>96316829
Even the wings are fur are different between the two types... It's obviously deliberate to everyone who isn't autistic

>>96316552
Wait does it actually bring Drusa Kraeth back just to shit on her, lol? Is she still on janitor duty or do they just ignore the soulbound fleshing out of anvilgard/Har kuron

>>96316370
Why does this look shooped

>>96316841
No, actually it's a rogue Hag Queen but the story is chiefly how she has abused her authority against the wishes of Morathi. An underling shanks her while cooperating with a Stormcast invasion and Freeguild revolt and takes her place promising better rule
Most of the novel follows SCE debating inaction, with her superiors wanting to obey Sigmar and Morathi's wishes and ignoring Anvilgard. I guess both gods are retards, though.

>>96316356
Vgh....the free city of ANVILGARD.....home....

>>96316855
good photography

>>96316864
sovl...

>>96316864
I feel this unironically, getting into aos in the year or two before broken realms, meeting a lot of people who matter a lot to me by joining a Soulbound campaign playing through the module set there, and creating some fluffy Warcry lists based off the place’s vibe makes it feel nostalgic for me. Especially the black ark shit when Callis & toll was the first aos book I read, simply goated place

>>96316829
The only one with a "beak" is the smallest one that might have just been a modelin/painting fuck up due to lack of details

Hey guys, I'm looking for the 1st edition Storm Cast Eternals PDFs. There were 3 books, right? Does anyone happen to have them?

>>96316949
https://files.catbox.moe/tws4an.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/uq11et.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/3t8j9a.pdf

>>96316864
>>96316878
>>96316886
Good times. I miss noble kharibdyss poster.

>>96317033
he was a faggot and a constant shitposter, even the kharybdis stuff was forced

but it was a good meme

Still no scans of the three newest battletomes? I know there was some imgur stuff but PtG wasn't covered.

>>96316947
The token has a division between the two beak halves
You are being foolish. There are two species there and one has a beak. The fluff will probably explicitly say as much, so enjoy looking like a clown in a few weeks

>>96315066
Well, please do not enjoy this five minute low effort edit.

>>96316829
They could always be ghoulified birds, but unless the lore says explicitly I will err on the side of GW fucking up.

You guys ever played with or against a god model ? How was it ?

>>96317141
I refuse to play against anyone fielding unique units
Though I have never played a game

>>96317120
You can see the fucking teeth retard. That's not how beaks work.

>>96317143
Extremely based
>>96317141
They tend to warp the game into 'if you can quickly kill the god, you win, if you don't, you lose.'

>>96317132
> Archibald destroying the works of perverts
Based

>>96317143
Based. Fuck herohammer.

>>96317150
What's this selective blindness called?
Noone is disputing the presence of teeth there, everyone is pointing out the presence of a beak-like thing here

>>96315253
What a nice looking bird

>>96317164
That's just a fucked up upper lip. Sculptor was sloppy or prefared rule of cool over accuracy.
The entire lower part of the mouth tells you it's not a beak

>>96317033
The noble kharibdyss is all I think of whenever one shows up in a BL novel or some shit like that. It was such a stupid meme it’s rewired my brain, and it’s going to make me sad when they squat it

>>96317139
He thinks they’re noble birds in the delusion, but they’re carrion bats and other scavengers instead. I think it’s pretty obvious they’re just meant to be a bunch of different weird aos-y species of bat, and giving some of them what’re obviously beaks just leans into the theme. I don’t imagine the fluff will explicitly say some have beaks or whatever but some of the models visibly do and it feels a lot more likely they’re there for fun rather than a weird mistake or something. This is a setting with cows that have shaggy leaves instead of fur and predatory shyishian horses, it’s not particuarly novel to have a beaked bat

>>96317176
I thought that too until I saw the other little bat on the right in this picture >>96316829 made it seem more intentional if another one just flatout has a beak

>>96317150
Different anon here. I see a beak clear as day.

>>96317201
It's not just the beak, the fur is raised on the back and the wing has an extra digit. It's clearly two kinds of bats

>>96317235
Also the ears are distinct
>>96317150
GW are loose with biological reality in their fantasy universe of fantasy monsters. Wow.

>>96317176
>prefared rule of cool over accuracy.
By giving it a beak, it's not difficult, anon.

>>96317164
Autism.
Autistic people can't register fine details, like face blindness, so anon only sees a bat. Why would a bat have a beak? I don't see it... They only see the vague concept of a bat and don't process the intricacies

>>96317271
Spearhead can fuck off, just release how the warscrolls work for nighthaunt.

>>96317176
if it was a stylised bat snout the nostrils would be at the front

>>96317183
Same here, hell, I can't even think about the orignal greek story without thinking about this stupid meme.
I hope the guy is doing well

>>96317132
>piss and physical beatings
Doesn't belong in my loli works.

>>96317345
Shut up! You're not my real Sigmar!

>>96316829
>it's not obvious enough already that this falconer is imagining the bats to be birds
>let's also give this flying rat a beak
This is why the new FEC are retarded

So I've got Durthu, Tree lord, Ancient tree lord, branchwych, arch revenant, 3 bownoths, and 5 tree revs. What should I buy with 200 bucks of store credit (won the last 2 leagues with my lumineth) to expand this roster

This might be way overthinking it but are normal animals like dogs and horses and shit "native" to the mortal realms or were they introduced in the way seraphon and their critters are ?
On the same wavelength, did humans/elves/dwarfs/orcs exist prior to the awakening of the gods ?
t. Newfag

>>96315313
ossiarchs have a ton of scavenger birds and sometimes lil spirit hosts.

You just never see them because they love to get caught on shit and snap off

More ghoul stuff

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/nudwrxbe/knightly-bannermen-join-a-riotous-bacchanal-in-the-flesh-eater-courts-armies-and-regiments-of-renown/

>>96317445
You are overthinking it

>>96317283
spearhead is what's legitimately carrying this game right now lmao, for all intents and purposes 2k is the side game, as it sadly deserves to be with current state of tomes.

now what do you want to hear about the nh warscrolls specifically? there's not really anything exciting but i can share what i have

>>96317488
well do you know know anything about what our bread and butter units do now, other than that one guy leaked on reddit?

>>96317478
Terrorghaist is a RoR for all of Death just like Dragon is a RoR from Soulblight

>>96317445
the current understanding is that the apocalypse of the old world was messy and somewhat incomplete, so enough individuals of pretty much all species survived by sheer luck, reached the realms and began repopulating
an unknown, but presumably long (and dilated?) amount of time passed between the formation of the realms, their repopulation and the arrival/awakening of the gods, so it's also possible that certain species didn't survive but evolved back again starting from stuff that survived (say, dogs from wolves), or were spawned by godbeasts and which somehow generated progeny (like an hypothetical wolf godbeast spawning the first wolves)
it's also possible that in the magically saturated early moments of the realms, some beings manifested out of magic and then gained corporeality, like the realms themselves
we just don't really know the specifics
we know the lizards preserved their own jungle ecosystems on their ships, so 'dinosaur' species are reintroduced by them, but we have no indication they acted as arcs for all other animals

>>96317445
I think all the stuff that exists was either survivors or remade. Sort of how Morbheg supposedly shat out all the bat variants

>>96317488
Just post pics of the book then.
Beat the Honest Fag Gamer to the punch (he allows drops first he needs to lose once in a while)

>>96317514
This bitch is also over thinking it

Iam so jealous of spearhead. I wish combat patrol would be that good

>>96317611
I've heard people complain about it, what makes it so bad? Spearhead is a pretty straightforward concept

>>96317501
hmmm not sure what the other guy leaked but here's shorthand what i remember without the book infront of me

pretty much all the weapon profiles are same or worse, if there is a buff to one i don't remember it being extraordinary or notable.

all the non heroes aside from black coach have a 6+ ethereal, no one in the army has more than a 5+ ward, the spirit hosts can bump infantry heroes to a 4++ still

only the three core ghosts got an extra health bump, none of the heroes, other infantry that already had more than one wound did

i'm saying exactly what's on their scroll, if i didn't mention something it's gone

bgr - lost +1 attack on charge, now charges need atleast an unmodified 7 to end within 1/2" of a model if they are on a objective they control

harridan - units in combat with it can't return models or heal

ggr - now if there's atleast 5 models in combat, every combat phase, they roll a dice for each model in a unit that they target, 6+ do mortals, if it's 20 models over it does 5+

awlrach - ability is now once per battle, has no rend on his attacks now

rasps - pretty much the same except up to 3 units get a 6" pre game move

banshees - same except down to rend 1

olynder - has a 5 up ward now, hits and wounds from 1-3 fail against her, still has her opg resurrect but the amount didn't change, spell looks the same

kurdoss - has the ca shutdown and a new ability to allow a unit of craven throne to shoot his target on your turn if he charges.

scriptor - in your hero phase, he picks a visible target within 18", on a 3+ they take a mortal and

reikenor - mostly the same except now you roll a 3+ when you do a mortal to the enemy, only then you get the bonus to power level and magic casting.

craven throne - lost the ability to shoot through walls etc, now when they're in combat if they roll a 2+ d3 they get to retreat and do that many mortals

black coach, chainghasts, spirit torment, kruhlghast, spirit torment - same

>>96317521
way too much work for a tome that doesn't deserve it

there's not really much discussion to be had about lists or anything like that, the army will come down to just spamming whatever has the best stat line like all the other armies in slop edition

>Waaah game is too lethal it sucks and not fun
>gw tries to slow down the power creep and reel it back in from a faction that had a 70% win rate
NOOOO NOT LIKE THIS MY EPIC SPOOKY BOIZ

>>96317631
hit the limit but the scriptor's debuff makes it so infantry that target that unit get crit mortals on 6's

>>96317643
>every army that's won a tournament in the last 4 months is mostly mixed arms with a big centerpiece
>they will just spam
What did he mean by this

>>96317631
wow it fucking sucks then

>>96317646
>hasn't read the scourge of ghyran scrolls that were written after the tome was published

nah dog this game is staying the same

silver lining is its fun to see streamers defend a game they clearly dont enjoy from their body expressions, so they can pull in ad money

they are killing it in models tho

>>96317692
They're fine for the most part, again any actual competetive list has like 1 soggy model at most. Soggy has been out for like 2 months and hasn't made the game into slop spam fest. Keep deluding and post your army and a picture of you playing

>>96317624
spearhead is an actual game mode with its own ruleset. combat patrol is warhammer 40k just with a smaller army thats it

>>96317538
But I like overthinking in my hobbies.

>>96317708
>lets redirect from the tome being absolute devoid of any real upsides, basically asking people to pay money to have it fuck them in the ass

he implied the book was toned down because the designers were trying to make the game less lethal. i pointed out the soggy scrolls exists, which have power creep in them. hell even the black coach is still much better than the tome one.

maybe you have a different definition of spam but going through lists real quick I see 20 cos knights, 20 bloodknights, a khorne hero build with like 10 of the same heroes, 80 witch elfs or witch elf variant but i'm sure those don't count

>>96317765
free guild command corps sounds like a buffing unit but i guess people really like their buffs because i see lots of lists with 3-4 of them lmao

here's a bloodreaver I painted today. what's neat about these old sculpts is that you can still mix and match the head and arms. they're like psuedo ork boyz. This guy's gonna come stab you like a horror movie.

>>96317765
That khorne list is the only spam. That's what? 2 blocks of witch elves, 2 blocks of blood knights and cities guys? What are we doing here. I hate 40slop but those lists would give you an aneurysm seeing more than 2 units of the same model

>>96317816
and here's his supervisor. I would've liked to get a more unhealthy pale tone on the skin but I got a whole vanguard of these guys to do and he already looks good so now he's awaiting a matte varnish.

I don't like armor spikes like the shin armor cause I always have a hard time trying to highlight around it and shade it without the highlights looking like ugly straight lines.

>>96317141
I've used Alarielle a lot, and I've faced down both Arcahon and Nagash (though neither in 4th, actually). They definitely warp the game around them, as expected of models that are nearly half a 2k army on their own. The main weakness is almost always that the rest of the army is kind of weak and the god, while normally fast, can only really be in one place. Alarielle kind of gets around this because she's blisteringly fast (especially in 3rd, when she had a 16" move and fallback/charge) and Sylvaneth are very teleporty so she's difficult to lock down. But her damage output is positively anemic for her cost and while she's difficult to kill, she does need to avoid true hammerblows because she's not *that* tanky. I've seen her drop to a unit of 6 buffed rat ogres in a single activation (those fuckers were scary in Thanquol's Menagerie) through all-out defense. For Alarielle, her main power is almost always in her utility, she can do pretty much everything, but she'll almost never make her points back in actual wounds caused.

New fantasy-ass looking mini leaked for 40k
>>96317582
>>96317609
I know it's a catan, but you know someone is gonna use it as their "Chamonite aspect of Nagash" or something like that.

>>96317822
40k isnt a skirmish game, 20 blood knights is almost half your list in points, same with 80 witch elves

>>96317831
shieet my bad. uploaded an old WiP pic

>>96317847
Neither is AoS? Spearhead is, malifaux is, kill team is. Man you guys are dense. A God model is also 35+% of your points and that's not spam. Again what are we doing here with these mental gymnastics to have retarded understandings of the game

>>96317923
desu I dunno what the fuck AoS is this edition. All I know is 20 models of cav taking up half your list is not a traditional wargame scale.

>>96317816
Sweet looking pose, good choice anon.
>>96317845
"Yeah my eidolon is from chamon"
Good looking sculpt though, 40k mini team put in work for once.

>>96317445
Most animals are native, and any that do descend from weird survivor sitiuations are so many thousands of years removed from those survivors that they're functionally native now with how they've diverged and adapted. Horses in particular are native to hysh and though a bunch of like sub-breeds are adapted to different realms (like predatory ones in shyish) their ancestors originated in hysh.

It seems like godbeasts are probaby the progenitors to most life in the realms, arising from the primal magics of the primordial realms and then having their children become more and more mundane over the generations just like the realms themselves become more habitable and 'normal' with time while the newly formed parts at their edges are primordial and inhospitable.

It seems like everyone did exist before the gods awoke, whether they were descended from survivors or naturally re-evolved in the realms, since humans/duardin/aelves were around but uncivilized cavedwellers (and orruks were only bonesplitters) during the era the draconiths and other animalistic species ruled the realms (before the age of myth, when the gods awoke). At the same time there's a lot of origns and different ways different populations came to be in the realms after that point (survivors arriving at different points in time, newly created by gods from souls they kept, descended from gods fucking etc) so it isn't one size fits all.

>>96318001
Yeah a 40k win finally after the last 2 years.

>>96318074
Cool, thanks for the writeup. I do like the godbeasts being primordial progenitors of various animals, feels like one of those norse or greek myths that aos likes to emulate from time to time.
That bit about horses being hyshian specifically is interesting, where's that from?

>>96318112
NTA, but the horse bit is a little off. Horses seem to exist as mundane animals in all the realms. In the latest Gotrek book, which I need to force myself to finish, the companion of the week has an Ulguan breed horse. Hyshian horses are the most famous because of their intelligence due to the nature of the realm. LRL Dawnriders basically have to become friends with their horse to have a mount rather than be treated like a more typical horse.

>>96317514
elves, dwarfs, humans and animals didnt "reach the realms", it was their souls that happend to survive because chaos gods were so busy gobbling up billions of souls so they missed a few, and those souls later became living beings

>>96317845
Damn that thing looks great. I wonder if it was Darren again

>>96318129
horses in Ghur are all carnivorous, thats just how the realms work

>>96317631
Is the Black Coach the same as the old one or the same as the SoG one?
Got the FEC book?

>>96318162
practically the same thing when you remember that a lot of those poor souls ended up in the warp because still living people got gobbled up by the warp whole, instead of having their soul wander the warp after death normally.

>>96317631
> Every book sucks even more flavor of of armies that lost most of their flavor from the index
Jesus this is bleak. Truly the AoS writers are shit

>>96317692
Which streamers are actually making ad revenue from anything AoS related. They don't get enough viewers.
They aren't doing it for ad revenue. They don't forget their Patron Whales who demand they continue making content

>>96318229
Yeah, it's a bad sign when almost every battletome release just feels like a kick in the balls for the people who play that army.
>Hey there AoS fans, how's it hanging?
>Did you just finally begin coping with the gutting your army received in the index release?
>Well congrats, here's something that's EVEN WORSE, enjoy!
>$60 btw. Please pay us an outrageous sum of money for crystalized depression in hardback form.

>>96318162
Did the realms form "around" the remains of the old world, I think in the modern story it's in azyr somewhere. Also, am I correct in assuming the mortal realms formed as a result of the end times, or where they always sort there ?

>what to nake a 1k skaven list
>See skaven tide is still instock
>but the starter set cones with almost all of the skaven side for less than half the price
>Could just buy two of the starter sets and get a 1k list
Why would anynone buy skaventide?

FEC leaks where?

>>96318290
The realms are formed around coalesced bits of the respective magic. There is a massive chunk of the old world in Ghur with a city founded around it, Excelcis. And the core of the old world, which Sigmar clung to until he was found by Dracothian is in Azyr with Sigmar’s main base built around it. The metal of the core is harvested and forged into the Sigmarite weapons and armor the SCE use.

>>96318290
to what i understand, so dont quote me on that.

In Fantasy, unlike in 40k, immaterium is not all Chaos, in Fantasy theres Aether, where human and elven gods exist, together with the winds of magic, and the chaos gods exists within the Realms of Chaos, which are a part of the Aether.
When World That Was was destroyed, it got sucked in the Aether, and being exposed to the winds of magic directly, made the matter coalesce into the lumps/clogs infused with their magic.
And thats why they are called "The Mortal Realms" as opposed to "The Realms of Chaos"

>>96317856
I love this Slaughterpriest alt. Baldie is nice but I love the helmet and the dualwielding.

>>96318290
More or less. Malleus got destroyed in End Times and basically it caused creating the Mortal Realms. The core of it is in Azyr, and basically is a moon by itself.

>>96318290
there are multiple scattered pieces of the old world, the thing in azyr is specifically its metallic core

the realms formed around the swirls of magic of the 8 winds, I do remember something about those winds coalescing around scattered remains of the old world, but I don't think it was consistent enough for one to say for certainty that you're going to find said pieces of the old world in the center of each realm, excelsis for example is near a piece of the old world, but it's not presented as the center of the realm

tyrion DID wake up right at the center of the realm of light, so it's possible that the incarnates were central to the creation of the realms, but then again sigmar arrived into azyr clinging to the metallic core of the old world after the realm formed (maybe it did around dracothion instead)

it's messy and unclear

>>96318297
Are you talking about the starter set or the ultimate starter set ?
Either way iirc besides more minis skaventide contains the full core rulebook instead of a condensed paperback version.

>>96318302
??? What? What FEC leaks?

>>96316375
That image features a unit that has a mechanical hand that shoots lasers.

>>96318195
its pretty much the same but the defensive stats are 5+/5++, wonder if theyll make the sog one match it or not

yes I have the fec book

fec book is more like upgrade or sidegrade. upgrade in the sense that many shit warscrolls are now good, and i think it looks more fun to play.

the funny shit is a lot of the 3+ rolls actually have decent payoffs and not some bullshit range or have to happen in your hero phase (gormayne can target someone in your charge phase and make them strike last on a 3+ so long as they're in combat with serfs or knights, and a hero) and everything looks fun.

so compare the nh unlimited prayer to the fec unlimited prayer, chants on a 4 (but the cardinal gets a +1 to his prayers if no enemies within 6" and also the vestments are still there), but shutsdown positive modifiers to saves from 18" away, if its 10+ it shuts down wards as well.

the 5+ ward prayer is still there, but requires 4 instead of 5 now, another new prayer on a 5 that adds +1 damage to any hero except nagash, if you get 10 you can choose between +1 damage or fight twice strike last.

biggest glow up is either the terrorgheist profiles or the horrors. Horrors are 4 attacks, 4/3 rend 1 2 damage, have crit auto wound and anti-cav, and once per turn army any combat phase they pick an enemy unit in combat, roll 2 dice per model in your unit, adding 2 to each roll if target is cav, for each 5+ do 1 mortal.

so they basically do about 4 mortals or 8 mortals against cav every turn while at full strength on average

for nerfs recursion is down because you cant pool NDP points and blow it on models, you just select one for each noble and restore three serfs or one knight. it looks like they're trying to prevent spam by putting pretty good abilities on everyone but once per turn army

theres lots more good stuff but yeah like the nighthaunt writer got a real bad case of trisomy 21, fec fans get excite, your army still plays like it did when you bought it and is better now

>>96318362
The medium one

>>96318434
so one thing the designer does here is tries to control spam by making lots of these abilities once per turn army. The units are still decent enough you may want to take two of them but the skills are usually great enough you'd want one of these guys in your list.

aside from the recursion nerf I mentioned, morbhegs lost their retreat and charge and now backout at the end of the enemies turn doing mortals, again just once per turn army.

>>96318440
In that case I think you'll also miss the spearhead stuff, don't think the terrain is included in the medium one. You also won't be able to play it in spearhead out of the box, need the mounted rat for that. Also the corebook again, maybe some cards, stuff like that. I think the medium one has around 35 minis, compared to skaventide at about 85.

>>96318503
I mean, the rule book and terrain is just cheap filler you don't need and I'm not really interested in spearhead

>>96316370
I want to bite the bullet and kitbash their heads on Stormcast models to make Dragonborn Paladins for my D&D campaign

>>96318545
There are far better dragonborn minis in armour than a hapazard conversion like that.

I didn't fucking consider how big this fucking thing is. I need to borrow my friends airbrush grey since it brushes on really good and I've got so much stone...

>>96318414
The new book, unfortunately only NH has gotten the most leaks (still no pdfs yet)

>>96314715
Anon who fought the CoS mixed army

Match was really good, lost by 2 points, the guy who i played against had a good mixture between placing each one with their own race so they get the passive buff, mix between Frontline Dorfs and DE with their Sigmar and dorfs also fucked me bad

Overall a good match and i can see why Ironjawz has ranged trouble if you dont have Kruleboy backup, do wonder if IJ will get ranged but i doubt it since savage boyz got legends

>>96318297
People do say ratclans are really good with the Ratling gunners (But i guess the box siege weapon helps)

Plague monks and Stormvermin i barely see players with them for some reason

>>96318689
Oooh, yes. For a second i was like "what? More minis for FEC?"

>>96318516
If you don't care about any of the other stuff then yeah I can see two of the starter sets being an okay deal. Maybe a little bit harder to sell the stormcast stuff compared to skaventide ? Just take a good look at the contents of each set, I think you're missing the warpblaster, the guy on gnawbeast, 3 jezzails and 20 clanrats. Unless I'm forgetting something.

>>96318814
>, I think you're missing the warpblaster, the guy on gnawbeast, 3 jezzails and 20 clanrats.
Yeah, that, idk, I could probably sell the SC stuff for very cheap and it still vost me the same

>>96318835
Sell the SC stuff, get some money, buy other stuff you like (Or wait for new announcements)

Some reading about the new Chaos RPG thingy

https://www.wargamer.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-soulbound/champions-of-chaos-interview

I like my dog

>>96318868
Bitch got them crazy eyes

>>96318882
Hey I know that lady!

>>96318882
>https://www.wargamer.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-soulbound/champions-of-chaos-interview
She dresses like a Darkoath, but is levitaitng skulls with blood, so i'm guessing she's about to devote herself to Khorne

>>96318796
God I fucking wish. I'm still convinced somethings coming since one the delusions specifically buffs beasts. Unless terrorgheist or Morbheg will just get the beast keyword

>>96318868
we are so back

>>96318952
Are the offal hounds of the warcry warband considered beasts ?
I guess they could be future proofing the codex for an end of edition release too

>>96318663
God damn that is huge. Are you the warp gate nagash anon?

I hope if Cities keeps dwarves and elves they share the visual identity with the new freeguild units

>>96318663
I don't wanna be that guy but that doesn't look structurally sound

>>96319340
they won't keep them
they won't get new ones

Total newbie here, I looked around a bit and my lgs still has the old idk spearhead lying around.
Is it worth picking up over the new one? Money wise it's a good discount (163 yuro so around 40%) but substantially worse than the new one (which is crazy like 190 worth of yuros in a 115 box)?
But maybe there's some hidden things that makes the old one comparatively better, maybe they play a lot easier stuff like that idk.
Thanks in advance

>>96319389
New one is way better. This old one gives you a shark and a shit hero. New one gives you a 2nd set of eels and a literal staple hero. If you grabbed both it would make for a great start to a full army. You can also play spearhead with the new one if you're interested in that.

>>96319389
Both boxes have a stinker unit. In the old one it’s the Soulscryer, because even thralls are semi-useful with the Scourge of Ghyran warscroll, and in this one it’s probably the reavers. 140 points for a unit with 12” shooting in a season that has most terrain preventing you from shooting and if you try to hide them, they go down to 6” range. Eels and sharks are good.

>>96319411
>>96319420
Thanks. I'm kinda surprised the new spearhead has the better performing models, since the new discount is so much better I assumed they wanted you to buy some of the worse stuff. Guess they really want people to start idoneth. Thanks guys

>>96319096
You betcha, got a bunch of bits and bobs of old terrain on facebook for relatively okayish prices. Also have some ghouls and SBGL to work on!

>>96319349
I did magnetize it so there's another way to set up it, only issue is now the telescope could just point directly into the poor wizards home.

>>96319449
Nice I'm picking up sylvaneth today, love seeing your models posted and now that I have my own house I gotta make my own terrain.

>>96318868
YES! I CAN FINALLY MAKE A TEAM COMPOSED OF MONOGOD CHAOS CHAMPIONS
IT TOOK YOU LONG FUCKERS!

>>96319499
AND ALL 4 OF THEM WILL BE NURGLE, THE GOD OF BORING!

>>96319512
>Only Nurgle
Damn they really want to milk him now that Khorne focus is boring and overdone.

>>96318652
I don't really trust etsy, even if some of the models there look cool

Is 3 big trees overkill for sylvaneth? I think the tree lords and kurnothi hunters are the coolest shit

>>96319484
>Sylvaneth
Very based, they're super cool. Please excuse the shitty picture quality, I don't know how to photograph armies yet

>>96319340
Same, but I doubt it

>>96319671
Hell yeah dude. I'm doing the stormbringer issue trick so I get 2 more tree lords for 25 bucks and an arch revenant for 13 instead of 40+. I love belthanos too but I feel hero hammer would be fucked. How do you like those bug cavalry? I want some of them too

Where is the ghoul book leaks?

>>96319752
Big trees are kino, I'm probably going to do Durthu at some point as well. I like the flyers as well, the flight stands are kinda fiddly but it's no biggie. I need to paint the third dude finally because I still have the 3 more from Blades of Belthanos box. Too much stuff to paint but too little time.

>>96319752
Can't wait for them to do 4th ed Stormbringer so I can fill up on cheap Rat Ogres.

>>96319694
>dwarfs in gothic plate
hell yeah sign me up

>>96319841
Feel that. I'm thinking of doing a wintery grey bark with light blue spirit energy. Like an arctic sylvaneth. Eg: this test model

>>96319904
Sadly I don't think we will see a new one for like 2 more years which will probably coincide with 5th?

This man is a pretty cool man.

>>96320005
Very cool shield and gun always looks sick

>>96318868
>And so the "standalone core game Champions of Chaos was born".
It really should have been titled something different to make clear that it's a different beast from the previous three "Champions of" books.

>>96320084
>>96317845

>>96320084
>Not using it as Chamonite Eidolon of the Quicksilver Sea
C’mon, anon.

>>96319671
Looks fantastic, don't see that many sylvaneth here.

>new soulbound takes inpo from Warcry
Cool, not the direction I would have taken it but it’s definitely something that should be explored.

>>96319970
Frost effect came out great anon, very believable.
>>96320084
lol did they have to scramble an article together cause it got leaked or what happened here ?

>>96320233
Seems like it. Fools. It would have been better to have kept their mouths shut and let the hype brew naturally.

>>96320084
SOVL

>>96320298
Fucking awesome paintjob.

>>96314958 (OP)
Soon

>>96317478
I haven't done a great job of keeping up with AOS news. Was the last things for Soulblight that came out the Barrow Guard and Knights?

>>96320419
That and new Prince Whoredry and vampire on horse

>>96320298
Holy shit that is really, REALLY fucking good.

>>96320033
I was wondering just one hour ago whether someone had thought of turning the stormchariot into a thing for kangs

>>96318434
Cool anon thanks for the over view.
As someone with a bunch of serfs and old knights (a lot of flayers painted and a lot of horrors I need to paint) horrors being good makes me want to finish the boys up!

>>96317745
Based. I did the math for Terra's population in 40k once and came to the conclusion that it's likely in the quadrillions.

>>96320356
what would you want out of a tomb king release

>>96320428
The Prince is cool but I wouldn't even know where to begin painting that fucking dragon. The biggest thing I've painted is Reikenor and that took forever to make myself finish it.
I wish the generic vampire characters weren't so dumb looking. Why do they all have wild hair? The named ones are all much cooler looking and harder to get

>>96320419
They got a pretty big release around...april I think ?
Slightly adjusted skellies, barrow guard and knights, new mounted wight king/lord, mounted vamp, vhordrai and his dragon, terrain and spells. I think that was all ? Oh yeah, some black library characters too.

>>96320529
"He" is a bot. The actual soon poster is probably gone since years ago. I'm pretty sure soon-posting is almost 10 years old.
He's gotten new TK minis over in TOW now too.

>>96320557
Horse vampire has a bald head option

>>96320579
What did they even change about the skeletons? I know they did something but IDK what.

here's what I would do for Tomb Kings in Sigmar
>Renamed as Obsidian Kings
>Death Grand Alliance but cannot take Nagash because Nagash is a BITCH ASS MOTHAFUCKA
>Elite heavy army, "every man a king" sorta mindset
>Bones are coated in obsidian/other sorta glassy material, keeps them from being controlled by Nagash and acts as armor
>Animated statues have obsidian chunks strewn about to give them power
>They use undead slaves for menial work and on the rare occasion as meat shields

>>96320606
Slightly adjested the way to build them to make the torso+leg connection less annoying.
Also re-added the masked champion option from Cursed City

Hark, fair citizens! This humble envoy of the most magnanimous Summerking brings you gifts! He, in his whole and unwavering beneficence invites you partake!
https://gofile.io/d/wxN4gd

>>96320606
I think they just tweaked some connections relating to the legs and clothes to make them less prone to snapping, which they were quite infamous for. Also added some visual upgrades to the champion like >>96320661 said with the deathmask

>>96320661
>>96320709
Ok well I'm glad they made them easier to build. I recently slapped a couple of old skeletons together from a Start Collecting box for test painting and my god I forgot how shit those guys were to put together. That hip-spine connection is bullshit.

Sir, the tomes are leaking.

>>96320084
Even when they get something decent the concept would still work 10x better as a fantasy model. That digital trash looks awful.

>>96320793
>>96320673

>>96320800
I missed muh chance

>>96320804
Oh dang
I snagged the FEC one at least: https://files.catbox.moe/ci2l45.pdf

>>96320673
Wow a slight buff to Nagash, does this mean he can just bring back Black Coaches now?

>>96320829
NO WORRIES, I got both.

>>96320673
>>96320804
The porters must have misplaced your gift. Here you are, with the Summerkings blessing, no less!
https://files.catbox.moe/gt97v6.pdf

>>96320829
Cheers, good knight.

>>96316829
>>96316842

Bats are suitable but vultures would have been cooler and even more fitting the FEC

God damnit GW you nerfed my fucking Terrorgheist, no more eating someone whole.

>>96317271
Why did they remove the KoS on foot? The whole spearhead just feels like it's missing something big or a nice Hero/Leader. Is this the Spearhead with the least model count so far?

>Zombie Dragon i still a thing
>revenant Draconith is an unrelated unit
What a twist

>>96320948
What? Why?

Is Shyish naturally dense or something? Why does death magic cause sinkholes

>>96320956
I'm going to bet the flesh eater courts one was written quickly and without much hassles way ahead of the soulblight book

>>96320956
Check the FEC scrolls posted above. the Zombie Dragon exists as normal. Its jsut a FEC exclusive kit now with the vampire rider option being useless

>>96320656
If they're in grand alliance death then they need to be under nagash.

>>96320973
Nagash's ritual reversed the polarisation of the realm and isntead of slowly expanding outwards it now slowly conracts inwards

>>96320985
What a dick

They fucking nerfed Crossboos, what reality are we in here. Didn't buff hp on Dreadblades either.

>>96320993
Well, the ritual was originally supposed to kill all life in all the realms, but then Skaven ratfucked Nagash AGAIN and messed up the ritual, so thank them for that.

>>96320656
If they're in grand alliance death then they need to be under nagash.

>>96320793
This book is fucking trash man. Literally every single unit, ability, trait everything is worse except maybe grimghast, most of it is straight bin. Gonna end up one of the least damaging most fragile combat armies in the game.

>>96320656
Just paint up some black ossiarchs for your donut Steel OC.

>>96321016
he does this already tho, but I guess having seen the book that's actually a positive

>>96321029
Kurdos is looking pretty tempting, I guarantee him, reinforced crossboos, ghyran black coach, and maybe Olynder or Reiklanor... The rest I got no fuckin clue!

>>96320973
normally magic radiation is found at the edges of the realms

nagash sent untold amounts of skeletons to retrieve all magically radioactive grains of sand at the edges of the realm of death and told them to bring them at the center, where he built a pyramid with them

it's an affront to the order of the cosmos

>>96321029
lol feel bad for all those people that were saying wait for the tome or holding out for that secret sauce that was going to come anytime

it's basically the biggest shit sandwich I've ever seen for a codex/tome

>>96320929
Not even close to the lowest model count, sylvaneth and gitmob are like 11 guys. Then there's sons of behemat of course.
That being said it might be lowest point spearhead. I think in terms of discount it's also pretty bad, only like 20% or something. Compare that to the new idoneth one at around 60% or something insane. Weird box for sure.

>>96321042
>>96321003
Did the ratfucking stop that or is the cosmos still upside down
I’m just imagining some guy decided that the earth should actually be flat one day

>>96321097
The skaven's interference caused the pyramid to drill a hole in the realm's center, causing the polar inversion and creating the shyishian nadir
It was normal before that

>>96321097
The ratfucking was the cause of the inverted Shyish. Without it everyone would’ve died straight up. As a normal dude somewhere in the realm the change was almost imperceptible except for the sky changing if I remember correctly. Like the stars and realms were in different spots.

>>96320983
Why? We know other death gods survived

>>96321045
20 blobs of harridans and bladegheist have like ogre glutton/plaguebearer wound counts but they do zero fucking damage.

>>96321097
shyish is still reversed like that

NO NEW HEXWRAITHS!!!

>>96321045
I feel bad as someone who owns Nighthaunt but also really happy because I own FEC and this shit looks great. The FEC stuff looks suprisingly fun, new hero looks like he's gonna be annoying as fuck to his enemies and fun to paint so i'm excited.

The big competitive "world tourney" guy locally here is saying the alchemy ghost is good enough to be in every list but I think it's copium.

>>96321132
the other death gods are not in charge of the grand alliance, nagash and only nagash is

>>96319086
GOD DAMNIT.

>>96321167
>in charge of the grand alliance
That's not how it works

>>96321167
>nagash and only nagash
Not so fast

>>96321177
>No longer a hero
lmao fuck off

>>96321203
I mean, I don't hate that. It means I can get him into a roster easily now without having to eat a fucking courtier slot.

>>96321183
It is if you ignore every other grand alliance and the meaning of the words grand alliance

>>96321205
Was fluffed as a holy saint, it'd be weird if it's not rewritten

>>96321177
I kinda get it, but I kinda don't. Aren't they fully sapient to other flesh eaters? Maybe they should have done something fucky like making him both a beast *and* a hero.

>>96321200
those fuckers are still under nagash

>>96321211
Saint? I always saw him more as like, that cool old knight living on the outskirts of society being called on to help out "one last time" during a conflict. Like they find his little house in the depths of the woods and blow the old warhorn so he knows it's time to fight!

>>96321183
>That's not how it works
That's exactly how death works
all are one in nagash

Is this Nagash AoR in Nighthaunt missing a page? This shit does nothing except nerf him for 2 rounds.

>>96320673
Man, everything is leaking today!

>>96321227
Yeah, coincidentally because they haven't released anything else. Every other grand alliance is more diverse
Nagash is not the only god of death nor the master of Shyish so there's no reason he has to have the allegiance of every death army

>>96321230
Nagash was barely worth taking in the first place, why the fuck would they make him worse

>>96321177
Uhhhh how does him being a beast interact with the Regiment of Renown that gives him +10 control score?

>>96320673
Most gracious of you milord.

>>96321224
Yeah, sounds like a hero to me?

>>96321243
>Every other grand alliance is more diverse
all destruction is under gorkamorka
all chaos is under archaon

only order is different because the elves are a tumor that should be their own alliance, but aren't allowed to be because gw wanted to sell stormcasts to elf collectors too 10 years ago

>>96321256
Yeah but like a hero in the sense he's so old and jaded he doesn't wanna be called a hero anymore, he just wants to retire.

I got no reasonable answer here, I'm just spitballing.

>>96321183
Nagash is like Gorkamorka but Gorkamorka atleast has other Gods in his pantheon which are seen as altenative manifestions by some.

>>96321248
It's a delusion not a AoR and it's -10 near him not +10. It's useless, two steelhelms best him even if you waste a battle trait to buff it

>>96321276
Can control go to 0? With all the fucking control score modifiers GW keeps handing out you'd figure they seem to think there's a purpose to it existing.

>>96321260
>all destruction is under gorkamorka
Except the bad moon, and the ever winter, and behemat, and fucking Kragnos?
>>96321260
>all chaos is under archaon
Except the new Helsmiths?
They literally refer to him as "your everchosen" when speaking to chaos in that new battleplan. And they view the other chaos gods as suckers you can steal power from in the newest WD short story.

>>96321286
No, it can't go below 1

>>96321276
I'm talking about Squires of the Everchosen

>>96321248
He'd just be excluded from it

>>96321286
control is recycled bravery, it's a worthless afterthought mechanic that hardly works

>>96321299
Wow, that's hot shit then. Why the fuck does GW keep pushing this if it can't go to 0...

>>96321029
So Nighthaunt is returning to its natural state of being the worst army in the game.

>>96321290
the bad moon is under gorkamorka
the everwinter too, behemat is his underling friend, kragnos got uplifted by orcs

>Except the new Helsmiths?
They're also under chaos, we have had chaos dwarfs in the lore since the start, they've always been under archaon's orders as well

>>96321290
>And they view the other chaos gods as suckers you can steal power from
This is something that famously always works out for totally-not-chaos factions

>>96321260
>>96321290
>all destruction is under gorkamorka
This shit is stupid anyway. The notion that sons of behemat should give two shits about some random fucking mushroom.

>>96321438
shut it, lankie, gorkamorka rules, gargants drool

>>96321368
>the bad moon is under gorkamorka
One of the theories the goblins have is that it was made by Gorkamorka, but the majority of them don't give a shit about gorkamorka.
Kragnos is the defacto god of destruction right now, but it's not like he's supported equally by everyone.
>we have had chaos dwarfs in the lore since the start, they've always been under archaon's orders as well
Yes and no. The big chaos dwarf fortresses in the background we've had little word on.
The others which are obviously a minority compared to the chorf faction proper (Helsmiths) - have been misc straggler chorfs from warcry.
Which is a game all about the eightpoints.
>>96321379
Yes, exactly. That's kind of the point (joke) with these factions.
They are on the path of glory in their own way so they are all still dammed.
Though my point was that HoH don't give a shit about Archaon.

>>96321457
>but the majority of them don't give a shit about gorkamorka.
They're still under him at the end of the day, because the moon is under him

>Kragnos is the defacto god of destruction right now
kragnos is a random thing, gorkamorka is the god of destruction

>The big chaos dwarf fortresses in the background we've had little word on.
and that little word was: they do shit for archaon
like in quest for ghal maraz

Not to Doompost, but as a non-Nighthaunt player, where is the damage in that battletome? Looks like every unit deals damage 1.

>>96321481
Damage? No no no, you misunderstand.

Is there a unit more tragic than glaivewraith stalkers
>the worst unit in the book
>the worst unit in the book
>gone

Where can I find the rules for Vandus in 1st edition?

>>96321501
Many such cases with underworlds warbands

>>96321457
>introduce a new character to lead the GA and herald in a new edition
>essentially throw him away at the end of said edition
The fuck was gw doing with kragnos ?
>>96321501
They looked so fucking cool too man

>>96317029
Thanks bro, I was looking for all 3

>>96321501
Sweet fucking lord I didn't even notice, also got rid of Cairnwraith (who was good) and the shitty tomb banshee.

Didn't get rid of Myrnmournes though despite them being mid as fuck.

>>96321475
>and that little word was: they do shit for archaon
>like in quest for ghal maraz
nta but I imagine like most of Chaos the chorfs aren't a monolith, there's probably a ratio of Archaon supporters to haters.

>>96321529
I fully subscribe to the theory that Kragnos was going to be the Beasts of Chaos centrepiece until they suddenly decided to squat the faction

>>96321541
Myrnmournes
Have a spell countering gimick

>>96321551
The day that NH gets a generic wizard that slots in easily, they will be tossed to the dusts of eternity.

>>96321546
and the ratio of archaon haters unlives in shyish

>>96321549
I also believe this mostly because I also believe GW is dumb enough to let its sculptors get part-way into making a BoC refresh before deciding to scrap it and dump the old models in ToW instead.

>>96321562
Guardian of Souls

>>96321593
Call me when it can easily be slotted in as a hero instead of needing to be the leader of the regiment.

>>96321481
I dunno, scripter mortis with harridans?

>>96321475
>because the moon is under him
That's your headcanon.
>kragnos is a random thing
Kragnos is the god "for" destruction right now, as he is a common point all the destruction factions have some followers for right now.
Much like, though not the same as Nagash for death.
>they do shit for archaon
Still irrelevant towards HoH, which is the chorf faction.
If we ever hear about Zharr Vyxa again for example, I don't think it's gonna be about them serving Archaon.
Just a random chorf fortress mentioned pre-HoH as an example.

My point is that Destruction especially, but also Chaos have comparable diversity in what leads them.
Also, I am not >>96321243 - just to be clear.

>nighthaunt
>they still have ethereal
Man you fuckers had a god damn meltdown over this book before you even saw it.

>>96321457
>but the majority of them don't give a shit about gorkamorka.

>The bad moon takes on various appearances. Sometimes it is little more than a sliver of sickly yellow light and at others it swells into a bloated monstrosity that swallows up the sky. It has a leering face which shifts when one blinks, looks away or else a cloud passes before it which according to greenskins are 'faces of da moon' representing different sides of Gorkamorka.

>The smaller satellite has its own origin stories such as being Gorkamorka's mace or fist which swings wildly to smash other celestial bodies out of the way, the Bad Moon being Gork's head and the satellite Mork's or perhaps vice versa

>Another theory of the Nosebiter hordes of the Pointyklaws mountain range is that this smaller object is in fact the spirit of an ancient Moonclan chieftain who conquered eight great mountain peaks, and so was blessed to accompany Gorkamorka's rampage through the skies for all of time

>>96321701
Well there's all the other shit to be unhappy about

>>96321701
the save could be ethereal 7+ and it would still upset bad players

changing ethereal is kind of a waste because brainlets still gonna big mad about it

>>96321549
>>96321590
It would also explain all the random shit dumped into warcry with bestial themes, like the fomoroid or the theridons.
However I do remember seeing someone with ties to gw's inner workings deboonk that idea, though I don't remember where i saw that. Maybe over on tga ?
Anyway I actually like kragnod conceptually but he's so disconnected to his ga both in models and now in lore, it's clear gw never had any clue what to do with him. As of 4th he's still in kroak's cuckshed I believe ?

>>96321701
Not a NH player but they didn't so much remove ethereal as completely change how it works.
>no longer gives you a basline 4+ save
>but also no longer prevents positive save bonuses

It's a huge change for NH in any case.

>>96321726
wait, this tome has to be missing something. No way they get literally 1 heroic train, 1 artifact of power, and 2 spells in their spell lore?

>>96321701
A 6+ is removing it, literally the same as eating rend -2 for the majority of other profiles in the game. Bladegheist are going to 180 or 200 points too before they start mass reducing everything every battlescroll. Being mad they changed the army entirely from Harlequins to fucking nurgle is completely justified anyway.

>>96321786
whew thank god i don't play a gay army like OOOO SPOOKY GHOSTS that everyone just paints with shit ass contrast and looks awful every time

>>96321761
it's a pretty big net nerf because of a few things

>heroes that already had better than a 5+ ward didn't get anything but their save went down
>only a handful of units got a bump in health. anything that already had more than one health didn't
>for the ones that did get a bump in health but their mitigation is worse now, healing is also less effective. Not only because they reduced the mitigation on the unit, but because they're 2 health you could end up healing only one health instead of restoring 3 wounds before when they were one health

toss in the lack of strike last that they had before, as well as reliable -1 hit and -1 wound, and damage went down quite a bit across the board so you won't trade as well. This isn't really salvageable in points, and if it were, no one should buy that many models because they'll just ass fuck you when they pump up the price.

You would have to objectively retarded or trolling to read the whole tome, read the previous tome, apply a 30% discount on points, and still not acknowledge it's a huge nerf, and also playstyle shift into doing nothing.

>>96321796
>whew thank god i don't play
figured, tourist

>>96321802
they won't make them cheap, 40w with a hard 5+ stacked with another 5+ is too much effective health to let you flood the board.

>>96321833
exactly, the writer obviously doesn't understand basic math or the concept of budgets

it's bad enough that people outside the faction should be alarmed at this person writing rules for the greater game

On the one hand it seems like we're firmly out of index copy paste edition
On the other hand damn nighthaunt got shit on

>>96321866
They'll be fine. Dormers who don't play will see they'll have a perfectly fine win rate and the alchemist guy seems fun

>>96321877
I'm honestly more peeved crossbow ghosts and dreadblades didn't get touched. (Well crossbow ghosts got a pointless 3+ retreat if they somehow wind up in melee). Also I'm a bit peeved GW really couldn't fucking figure out anything to do with Glaivewraiths and just killed them, I wasn't even particularly attached but holy shit.

Any IJ or Skaven Anons that can recommend/help me units in my army? I think i dont even reach 1k of points yet(?)

>Ironjawz
1 Megaboss
1 Unit of 'ardboyz
1 unit of brutes
1 unit of wreckas

>Skaven
1 Deathmaster
1 Unit of Clanrats
1 Unit of Globadiers
2 Units of storm vermins

Any recommended aditions/removals are helpful

Reason why some minis in the army? I like them

So fec just gets the new falconer and thats it?
Not even the draconith?

Also am I missing something or are there only 2 delusions?

>>96322033
>Also am I missing something or are there only 2 delusions?
Some hero models unlock a unique delusion if you take them in your army; there are just 2 generic ones you can always take.

>>96322033
>>96322049
Yeah for example ushoran or the zombie dragon unlock new delusions

What stylistically actually differentiates the skeletons from the Barrow Guard? They're similarly armored and the armor aesthetic is very similar. The Guard are a bit more heavily armored, but other than the bat wings on the helmets, there doesn't seem to be much that tells you these are different units at a glance.

>Sole spray can of primer I have exploded and messed up my 1e Flesh-Eater Court army.
>Stripping them now aside from my ever-blessed Ancient Ghoul elevated to Crypt Ghast Courtier who escaped unscathed.
>New F-EC book comes out and I have returned to AoS.
>No more Crypt Ghast Courtiers in the Battletome.
>Damn.

The Kingdom will expand and grow! Peace through comradery, unity, loyalty! For King and Kingdom! Pay no heed to the badly butchered image I took and resized/tweaked.

>>96322112
Crypt ghast courtiers have been dead for a hot minute it it makes it any better. But old FEC eh? Pretty neato.

>>96322127
literally any other foot hero now, they've got plenty i think, crypt ghasts are just a fancy model from the basic ghoul kit

>>96322190
Yeah they were the one with no eyes and the skeleton on his back, but good news: ghoul king just does the same thing the old courtier did.

>>96322106
I prefer the look of fantasy, they look more heavily armed than the aos ones

>>96322221
I personally don’t. The helmets are thicker than the armor itself. I don’t even want to get into the assembly of the damn things.

>>96322221
I think with the 2h weapons they look a bit more intimidating. I also miss the mixed armor and helmets they wore, felt like they just grabbed whatever bodies they could from various time periods.

>>96322221
ugh just paint the new ones black and use the 2 handers then.

>>96322221
I like the new ones. The only thing I specifically don't care much for is all the curved swords. I prefer straight blades.
Re the skeletons, I wish they looked more hodgepodge. They're all very much from the same civilization when I would expect basic skeletons to vary wildly in where they're raised and how old they are. Unless there's something about Shyish and the realm of death that I'm unfamiliar with and whole civilizations of already dead people rise and fall just like the living.

>>96322106
Not much, like you said it's mostly just the winged helmets. Their armour is s little bit sturdier, got some trim and whatnot. Then there's the different shape of their shields and their two handed weapons.
It's one of the main criticisms of the refresh. The two kits are great but they're not all that distinct. I'm planning to do a soulblight army eventually, I think I'll try and sculpt some fur cloaks on each of them, like the mounted wight king has, to make them stand out a bit more.

>>96322243
iirc the original grave guard fluff explained that they were the corpses of great warlords and champions raised and equipped with the same weaponry they wielded in life

>>96322238
... How bad as the assembly?

>>96322243
Wasn't a dog of war regiment like that? Can't remember the exact name but i do remember nagash got pissed off by him he took his soul and made his regiment turn into dust

>>96322253
That's fair, i do believe skeletons should be able to use different weapons since they are kills from different armies

>>96322344
>... How bad as the assembly?
You ever get annoyed at trying to line up everything perfectly for a model holding a two handed weapon, and then decided it would be an even better experience if the pieces were all tiny bones that connected somewhere around the elbow joint? Because that was the vision whoever designed the GG kit had.

>>96322395
They also had that slightly worse old GW plastic that was weirdly brittle. As much as I'll shit talk some assemblies now, the material quality is on point. (also depending on the kit, substantially less mold lines)

>>96322344
>Wasn't a dog of war regiment like that?
cursed company

>>96316356
nope
I liked it, but the core focus is on the Stormcast
I felt that the book glossed over Har Huron as a whole, there are bits about the current ruler and her direct underling, but not much with the actual people.

I'd love to see more in Har Huron, even little stories about the folk there just living their lives.

I know there are remnants of Anvilgard still out there trying to build up support to take back their city.
I'd like to see GW's do something with that.
Have them defeated
Have them create a new city
Have them take back their city
Anything

>>96317488
battle tomes are pretty good now that we're moving past index hammer and the scourge of ghyran updates where great and breathed new life into existing armies. Kruleboyz feel great to play now despite getting an ass battletome

I almost feel bad calling Felgryn a pity hero. He feels like a whole ass useful part of the army, on top of looking fucking great. Holy shit, imagine.

>>96322741
>That lore bit
Holy shit

>>96322741
>>96322756
The lore showing animals can be affected by the delusion is fucking sick.

>>96322756
For a second I thought this was gonna take a completely seperate turn before that next line.

>>96322106
Speaking of these guys, does anyone know what era/region of the world their arms and armor are supposed to resemble? The armor is just general medieval plate to me, but the helmets feel almost Asian for some reason. A little bit Korean.

>>96322790
Always felt vaguely middle eastern with the gilding and kinda pointy-ish helmets alongside the little mail bits.

>>96322766
No wonder some of those bats have beaks, they're ghoulified birds

>>96322797
Distinct possibility. They use scimitars too, so that would track. Maybe the general plate armor of Europe mixed with the helmet and swords of the Middle East?
>>96322741
>>96322811
Which of those creatures is meant to be the Elf bird? Did he mutate it immediately or something?

>>96322797
which is weird, considering that the design was made for Cursed city, which is very slavic otherwise (cyrilic on the gravestones, berdiech zombie ogres, Radukar, the player character with the weird harcut)

>>96322864
Tbf didn't russia also just have very similar designs?

Ghoul King on Terrorgheist seems cool, with all the companion attack abilities is monster mash now a thing?

Well damn

>>96322876
the pointy helmets yes, but the shields and scimmitars are still mostly eastern in style still.
But its not like eastern european styles are that far away from middl eastern ones, turkey is like right next door

>>96322883
I'm pissed it doesn't crit into 6 mortals on the mouth attack anymore. I wiped out an entire bloodknight group with that.

As ghoul anon, I officially call this book kino and based.

>>96322864
>>96322901
Maybe future Underworld/Warcry releases or something will introduce more varied armor like they have in the past. I'm actually a bit surprised GW didn't stick with the Sepulchral Guard style for the main skeleton update. They look much more basic since they're mostly naked and have diverse equipment.
Velmorn is still peak IMO.

>>96323006
I'm so mad sbgl has like five hundred UW warbands and none of them have done the Cursed Company thing of including non-human skeletons. It's such an obvious route to take

>>96323057
atleast you got zombie ogres from cursed city, No rules for them tho! Fuckong gw

>>96323070
There's rules, they're just hot shit.

>>96323084
didnt they squat all Cursed city rules besides the wolf riding hag and raddukar?

>>96323088
she wasn't even in cursed city, she was probably gonna be but then she wasn't.

>>96323108
I'm shocked they brought Cursed City back with how cursed its whole release was. IIRC it was supposed to be multiple releases and be a big thing, but I guess they dropped that idea.

>>96323120
I personally didnt really like it as a game, they overcomplicated the Silvertower/Shadows over hammerhall formula too hard, proprietary dice and too much cards, but the game was more tactical which was a positive.
I would prefer if Cursed city was just a SOH expansion, with subsequent expansion for every realm

>>96315193
Sylvaneth have quiverlings who are objectively the cutest quiver in the game. Ossiarchs also have the little skeletal crow/raven on katakros

>>96316855
They're nicely painted and he's mentioned before that he cuts his backgrounds out in photoshop

>>96316375
Kroq-gar/the generic Old Blood has an Old One laser cannon built into his hand. The Engines of the Gods are magic weapons from the Old Ones, as are the Solar Engines on the Bastilodons. Everything they have that's more advanced than a club or spear is a weapon provided by the Old Ones themselves.

>>96322741
Wait, so ghouls understand other races. I thought they see grotesque monsters and barbarians who growl and scream (just like how the rest of the races see them). Interesting. So we can communicate with them (one way only, we dont understand them)

>>96323290
It varies, both ways

>>96323153
>>96323120
I made my own house rules and campaign and I love it. I just wish I had more of the tiles, more variety that is. It's hard to find good quality dungeon tiles these days.

>>96323290
It could very well be because Felgryn is technically a vampire and not a ghoul? Or maybe the delusion was setting in before she died? Who knows, but it’s better if they can communicate imo

>>96323575
I think it would be neat if they can communicate best with other races when the line between life and death blur, and you can see the same delusion they're under. So like if you are in critical health or are surrounded by fresh corpses you start to understand them and that shit just freaks you out enough for them to get the drop on you

So you cant take the draconith in FEC? Or did I miss it?

Either way Ill probably just proxy it as a ghoul king/terrorgheist.

>>96317150
It is sometimes how beaks work

>>96315253
>>96315291

I keep getting tempted to start oops all tzaangors and paint them like my bird. Cute model and kino birds tho budgieking. You should tell your SO that she can get a cat but only if you get a full room to fill with budgies

>>96323660
Only from the SBGL regiment of renown iirc

Hey people, I'm looking for the 2nd edition SCE (Storm Cast Eternals) PDF. If anyone happens to have it, I'd appreciate it if you could share the link.

>>96323660
They get to keep their old dragon. For now, I guess.

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>>96323973

Hello friends!

Can somebody help me?

I bought 3D printer and really want to print some Blades of Khorne minis.

Does somebody have any STL files for this army?

Mb some priests or Mighty Skullcrushers, or mb some Bloodreavers?

>>96325170
AoS does not have sculptors that copy the style of our minis exactly like over in 40k.
You might be able to find something in the same ballpark, but I doubt you'll find some naked heavy metal dudes with Khorne iconography.
I could be wrong too, maybe it exists. Skullcrushers surely exis, they're such an iconic unit.

If you figure out the secrets of the 3d printing general, they might have what you look for.