Thread 96340338

If furries are such a problem for tabletop, why isn't there a setting or game built to contain them?

>>96340338 (OP)
Ironclaw already exists

>>96340385
and it's actually a decent system if you want to run a game where stats, race, and job all matter somewhat but how much one matters can vary from character to character.

It's just a shame that you cannot get a furry-art-less version of the rules. If it had an art-free SRD or something it'd be a genuinely good generic-fantasy sorta system for doing the same things people typically try to do with D&D, if you want to lean into that "the world has many races and they're all different" vibe you get from things like a lot of fantasy anime (and, ironically, that modern D&D can't do because they've stripped away all the racial difference stuff out of fear of being called racists).

There are actually several that are pretty decent in terms of rules quality and content depth. Ironclaw was already mentioned.

They suffer the exact same problem that all non-D&D games suffer from in my experience: They aren't D&D, and therefore not one fucking person in the entire world wants to engage with it as a TTRPG.

>>96340385
Ironclaw is unironically a good setting AND system. Fully recommend it.
>>96340535
This.

>>96340535
So is the answer to simply make a DnD conversion?

"Containment" doesn't work unless there's an actual container.

>>96340338 (OP)
Hc Svnt Dracones exists, although 1e is notorious for being full of questionable design choices. I want to run 2e some day though; it looks like it could be quite a bit of fun and I actually like a lot of the setting as laid out in the core book.

>>96340734

If you want it to have a chance in hell of being good? No.

If you want people to actually consider playing it? Yes.

>>96340338 (OP)

There are several. They are good. They have communities playing them.

The problem, though, is that the furries invading DnD with furry trash and destroying it aren't interested in TTRPG, they're interested in invading stuff and destroying it.

>>96340535

There's even the ultra-furry Hic Svnt Dracones for the sci-fi/high-crunch demographic, and yet despite apparently being a DTRPG bestseller I have never seen it mentioned anywhere.

>>96340776
>>96340842
I still remember that one review by a bunch of Goons where they tried to make the ultimate Brawler using the tiny gecko build. And then proceeded to basically make Scrooge Mcduck with a lascannon.

>>96340734
>furries = mammals
>scalies = reptiles
What do you call anthro bird fans?

>>96340338 (OP)
Your GM is likely a furry, they have to RP all the monsters and beasts after all

>>96340776
One of my biggest problems with that system is that you have centaur-shaped people. Feels weird.

>>96340913

Some real sick mother-cluckers.

>>96340913

Beakies, IIRC.

>>96340338 (OP)
There is no need to contain furries because they will self contain themselves if your game doesn't have furryshit races in it.

>>96340993
Why would you do that? My best player was a furry who commissioned art of the whole group

>>96340993
CoC games are filled with furries and turn it into Cats Don't Dance horror fanfic baka

>>96340535
Despite the furry community being far more autistic than most other communities and fandoms, they are just as prone to falling into the forever-5e trap that everyone else deals with.

Part of the problem is that everyone is already playing 5e and the rules are such loose, wet dog shit that no one really gives a fuck if they just have to reskin the existing player options to be anthro foxes and wolves. Whereas some of the furry RPGs that exist are such niche, specialized kinds of autism that the average 5e-only group is not going to know what to do with them. Even Ironclaw, perfectly fine and easy enough to learn as it is, is NOT "D&D, but with furries" and games like Albedo or HC SVNT DRACONES are even worse and more hyperspecific. Stuff like Gorge World doesn't even need an explanation for why there isn't a community-wide adoption of it instead of just playing 5e like everyone else.

>>96340913
Avies? Birdies?

>>96340734
That's been done. Don't you remember the big book of d&d anthro races and feats? You know, the xenomorph and cthulhu anthros, the milk and egg producing feats that lets you feed your party, and the 'you're a prey animal that is so horny for death that crits and swallow attacks auto-succeed against you' traits?

Forgot the name of it, but it was posted here and mocked a long time ago.

>>96340338 (OP)
Because you cannot contain what is inevitable.

>>96342237
Fursona, it has 3 books and is a 3rd party supplement

>>96340927
As in the rules for centaurs are weird?

>>96342476
No just, they're hexapods! That feels somehow more wrong than human-shaped animal people

>>96340828
>The problem, though, is that the furries invading DnD with furry trash and destroying it aren't interested in TTRPG, they're interested in invading stuff and destroying it.
You sure this is actually happening and that you're not making up shit to be angry about so you don't like quite as foolish for seething about furries all the time to try and impress random faggots online?

>>96342476
Not really. They can carry bigger shit, take up two hexes (because they're long), and IIRC clothes/armor for them tend to be a bit more expensive but otherwise they're a mostly normal character.

>>96342513
I'm really surprised you're weirded out by Taurs instead of Laterals which are way more off the wall imo. An actual, normal great white shark is a completely legal character in HSD. You can in fact be a parakeet with a tiny gun. Compared to 'centaur but they're a furry' that feels way more off the wall to me.

>>96342513
A human lower half with human legs or do you mean like an insect?

>>96342586
Laterals were weird too, but having lived in them IRL it wasn't too much for me. Taurs get me though

>>96340913
Scalies are a subset of furries.

>>96340842
I'm only a part-time furfag so I don't want my settings to be all sparkledog

>>96344214
This is it for me personally. The really fun stuff is seeing the humans and the furries interact with each other. I'm also something of a macrofag too so I enjoy it when the furries are much bigger than the humans but that gives the humans their own unique advantages by being so small comparitively.

There's also the Delver's Guide to Beast World, a 5e supplement

>>96340535
Isn't PF1 pretty much D&D for furries though?

>>96344214
Even though I am not performatively exaggeratedly opposed to furries and anthros like some tryhard faggots, I don't really find a lot of furry games appealing. They're either too serious, too lethal, or too autistic. And that's after you sort through the lists of "Furry RPGs" and filter out the ones that are just riffs on Mouseguard or Redwall, games that feature a single anthro player species option, or games where you just play as a mundane housepet.

>>96342529
Spoken like a zoomer who hasn't been here at Fursecution.

>>96340338 (OP)
>>96340828
What he said. The issue with furries, faggots, trannies, nazis and leftists is that they specifically want a given setting to conform to their faggotry.

Playing in containment settings is like masturbating instead of having sex.

>>96344255
One or two furry races is infinitely more appealing than everyone being furries

>>96340338 (OP)
Because furries aren't a problem for people who actually play games. They'll just occationally have a cat rogue instead of an elf rogue in the party. They don't care.

Sadly this board is full of retards screeching about made up issues.

"Furry" games give me the heebie-jeebies, something about human shaped animals is weird to me. But for some reason I really like the aesthetic of games where you play as little forest critters, like Mausritter or Humblewood.

>>96340338 (OP)
I'm actually surprised that there arent more furry RPGs and genre fiction. It seems like there should be a market there but theres like fucking nothing.

>>96344798
That's because the furry community proper is inherently narcissistic and everything revolves around this or that OC or fursona of theirs. Also the reason why most furry porn sucks literal or figurative donkey dick

>>96340338 (OP)
It's called Golarion

>>96344798
It's because furries are attention whores. They don't want to play furry games with other furries, they want to insert their furfaggotry into normal games and force you to accept and celebrate it. It's the same mindset as those LGBT types who want to "queer up" dnd instead of just making a queer dnd game

>>96344930
>>96344968
Try harder anon

>>96345087
>NYOOO TWO PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE THE SAME NEGATIVE OPINION OF FURFAGS!!!

>>96344930
>>96344968
*Try harder anons

Lmao, furfag btfo

>>96344552
So the answer to the question is
>Yes and I'm a huge faggot who is trying to be cool by citing 20 year old internet drama.
Anyone old enough to know how bad furries used to be would not waste their time seething about how furries are "invading and destroying" hobbies today.

>>96345699
So real answer
>I'm a furry and I'm buttmad that people STILL don't like us, BAWWW
KWAB

>>96345699
This

>>96340338 (OP)
TOTAL FURRY DEATH.

Kill furries. Behead furries. Roundhouse kick a furry into the concrete. Slam dunk a fur-blood into the trashcan. Crucify filthy furries. Defecate in a furry’s food. Launch furries into the sun. Stir fry furries in a wok. Toss furries into active volcanoes. Urinate into a furry’s gas tank. Judo throw furries into a wood chipper. Twist furries’ heads off. Report furries to the Wizards’ Council. Karate chop furries in half. Curb stomp pregnant non-human furries. Trap furries in quicksand. Crush furries in the trash compactor. Liquefy furries in a vat of acid. Eat furries. Dissect furries. Exterminate furries in the gas chamber. Stomp furry skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate furries in the oven. Lobotomize furries. Mandatory abortions for furries. Grind furry fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown furries in fried chicken grease. Vaporize furries with anti-matter. Kick old furries down the stairs. Feed furries to alligators. Slice furries with a katana.

>>96345723
You waste a lot of time caring about what other people like for someone who posts on 4chan, zoomzoom.

>>96345773
As opposed to you waste even more time caring about people who post mean things on 4chan?
Way to out yourself.
People_don't_like_you.
Stay mad.

>>96345793
Why do you think that anyone who calls you a fag must be a furry, and furthermore, that they care what you think? You are insecure about people not liking you.

>>96340913
Furries, the name for the full set of anthro fans
Scalies are into lizards, snakes, and other scaly things
Furries like mammals and fuzzy things
Saurians like dinosaurs
Avians like birds
Mythos like mythological things like dragons or unicorns.
Other animal types don't get special words because they are niche and the fandom has pretty much lost interest in categorizing every little animal fan. Were all furries whether it's about corn snakes, cockroaches, cockatrices, crows, or capybaras.

>>96344243
>Isn't PF1 pretty much D&D for furries though?
Depends on what you mean. Lots prefer PF2e these days.

>>96344798
>more furry RPGs and genre fiction
You haven't looked around enough. Lots of furry genre fiction is through webcomics, but there are plenty of books that are highly rated among the furry community. Rick Griffin has several book series and comics that come highly recommended. The Digger webcomic and now book is widely seen as a major text for furry. I don't tend to read books these days for a few reasons, but even I know of a few book writers.

As for TTRPGs, those are fairly niche, but plenty of furries still make them. They just wont be blatantly "furry" in look or themes. I know of one making his own full ttrpg and you wouldn't guess he's a furry from the product. The thing is we are still people participating in the economies we live in, so often style our products to appeal to a wider audience. Furry specific stuff still sells, just not as much. Now things like stickers, art prints, and other merchandise, that can be deeply furry and sell extremely well.

Ignore these >>96344930, >>96344968 nitwits, they know nothing.

I always found it funny that all the old antifurry art was made by furries.

>>96345812
Probably because you're the one who got butthurt at my posts and keeps replying trying to prove something? It doesn't really matter what kind of subhuman you are exactly.
You are insecure about people not liking you, but try to pretend it doesn't exist.

>>96345826
Because saying furries are "invading and destroying" things is fucking retarded and made up bullshit you said because you want to try and prove what a cool bigboy shitposter you are by seething about furries 20 years too late for anyone to give you asspats for it.

>>96345915
Yeah, right. Stay mad at your table, pup.

>>96345932
>>96345723
>>96344552
I'm unironically curious: what's your issue with furries? I've never met anyone irl who cares; people just think it's goofy if I tell them I'm a furry. Nerds, normies, girls, guys, doesn't matter. Noone cares. And people online don't really care either nowadays. But 4chan specifically is full of people like you. How come?

>>96344672
Fuck it you're the one furry hater I'll respect.

>>96346054
The reason for that is pretty simple anon: They don't play games.

>>96344643
This. Think about how many people you see screeching about 'freakshit' to refer to any setting with any species other than humans or any magic in it...and then consider whether those people actually play the gritty mudcore historical realism games they're constantly screaming about. There's a good reason why just asking someone what system they're referring to shuts them down basically 100% of the time.

i think furries should die actually

>>96340951
>dishonoring the name of the sacred elite of the Imperium

>>96344672
>something about human shaped animals is weird to me. But for some reason I really like the aesthetic of games where you play as little forest critters, like Mausritter or Humblewood.
The difference is that one type gets used for sexual fetish, the other doesn't at least not remotely to that extent

>>96346574
They got great fursuits.

>>96346054

Not that guy, but I always hesitate a half a second whenever someone outs themselves as a Furry for two reasons:

One, it's a little weird to just discuss your fetishes with someone like that unless you have a very specific relationship.

Two, I'm haunted by my encounters with the worst examples of your kind. An equivalent example is that time a Tranny stabbed me when I was I was trying to collect donations for St. Judes, because advocating for literally any cause that isn't in favor of the LGBT agenda is inherently some sort of Transphobia that requires potentially lethal retribution. It's not fair to the other parts of the community who are just chill dudes who may or may not have been born dudes, but that's not where my mind goes to first.

Same thing with the furries. Most of them are capable of taking of the fursuits to do things like take baths, don't try and sniff ass in public to get in touch with their inner dog, etc. You tell me you're a furry and I don't hear "I have a hobby/fetish that's a little weird" I hear "I am going for the gold in the making everyone in this fucking building uncomfortable for no fucking reason Olympics". Because the ones that DON'T do that, generally don't out themselves as a furry in my experience.

>>96346844
NTA but it sounds like you're confusing half a dozen different things and trying to present them as a cohesive reason for irrational behavior.

>>96346183
Yeah I play GURPS

>>96346844
In my experience it usually goes differently. You'll express a tiny bit of interest in something slightly furry (even just a regular anime catgirl) and you'll get some retard screaming "ARE YOU A FURRY? THAT'S A FURRY THING! YOU WANT TO FUCK A CAT!"

>>96340338 (OP)
I thought DnD5e was that?

>>96340776
I've run a few 2e games and have had good success. There are a few nuances in the system that take some getting used to, but the level of character customization is pretty fun.

>>96342586
Taurs are also more susceptible to certain attacks due to being a larger target. Shotguns, for example, either get additional damage or hit probabilities against taurs. I don't recall off the top of my head.

>>96346844
I'm a "casual furry" (if such a thing exists) and don't broadcast it at all. I've had experiences that range from "I just think they're cool" to "THIS IS WHO I AM NOW HOW DARE YOU REJECT ME."
I've had a lot more of the former than the the latter. Oddly, the bulk of my regular TTRPG group slowly outed themselves as furries (except for one who was very casual about it), and I still don't think they know I'm into the stuff. It's allowed for us to play Hc Svnt Dracones and other stuff and things haven't been weird with anybody, so things are going smoothly so far. Oddly enough, we play pre-clan invasion battletech more than anything else.

Not sure where I'm going with all of this, but even in a group of "peers" I don't like to broadcast my interests.

>>96347198
>"FUCKING FURRIES!!1"
Anybody younger than 35 needs to shut the fuck up. We know you zoomers weren't even alive back when furries had a significant internet presence.

>>96340338 (OP)
There are several. Sadly furniggers derive far more pleasure from ruining things for other people than they do from indulging their zoophilia in private.

>>96348044
I'm sort of into hmofa and that sort of thing, but if your setting includes taurs I instantly know it's too furry for me

>>96348077
You freaks have never went away thobeight.

>>96348081
>Sadly furniggers derive far more pleasure from ruining things for other people than they do from indulging their zoophilia in private.
Like what?

Have you tried not playing 5th+ edition?

>>96341025
While I've only played a handful of CoC games, I struggle to believe you.

>>96348077
>when furries had a significant internet presence.
lol
lmao even

Anon the furries are way more common today than they were in the past. The reason you're not recognizing them is because they're right in front of you and you can't tell what a furry is anymore.

>>96348614
More visible thanks to the centralization of the internet, you mean.

>>96340338 (OP)
Furries do have their own systems/settings, but they unironically gatekeep normal people from them so they don't have to deal with non-furries.

>>96348614
>the furries are way more common today than they were in the past
In my day being furry meant you had to wear a fursuit, go to furry conventions, be a babyfur, etc.
Zoomers cry furry at anyone who doesn't feel threatened by a cartoon animal with a big rack.

>>96348672
We're well beyond that anon. Anyone who looks at pic related and is even slightly attracted to it is a furry. End of story.

>>96340535
This.

>>96348194
He can't tell you because it's a bot or some underage b8 who wasn't even a twinkle in his father's pre-slick genitals when furries were actually annoying online instead of just being a thing like they are nowadays.

>>96348863
>when furries were actually annoying online
The annoying attention/drama whore internet furries never went away, they just migrated to the mainstream social media platforms when they became popular.

>>96348930
Even worse, the furries started making mainstream movies

>>96348711
Even once?

>>96348945
He says, like they haven’t literally always been a thing since animation began.
You can’t just pretend that Disney’s Robin Hood or Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers didn’t exist, Anon.

>>96348994
Funnily enough the project lead on Zootopia actually said that Robin Hood was his favourite film when he was a kid.

>>96348081
Not Aryan if you don't have a spirit animal

>>96340338 (OP)
>If furries are such a problem for tabletop, why isn't there a setting or game built to contain them?
you mean CATastrophe, a post a-paw-calyptic world of endless blue?

Yeah we made that like 10 years ago, Zoomer.
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Setting:CATastrophe
Learn the old lore before bitching.

>>96348863
During the height of the fursection era, furries were just a bunch of cringe lulcows. Most of it came from SomethingAwful, back when they'd just look for people to bully. They weren't really doing anything except being weird autists online and being easy to make fun of for acting like retards. And you know what's happened to SA since their rise and fall? They've become such a disgusting den of faggotry that the term "trooning" was created to describe when SA Goons turned into trannies.

>>96346901

It's less me confusing a dozen different things and more there's a dozen different problems of varying severity that all have the same initial symptoms/warning signs. For example: >>96348044 is an example of a 'good' furry to me.

I think a good way to put is there was an old Chris Rock joke about there being an important different between 'Black People' and 'Niggers', an it's important to remember that nobody hates the 'Niggers' more than the regular black people.

The harder you are to immediately distinguish from the shitty part of your demographic, especially if I've had really bad run ins with said demographic, the more I'm gonna be uncomfortable in the short term.

>>96348945
>AAAAHHH save me from Judy Hopps butt!! The furries are making animation now!

>>96349301
Yeah okay, I can understand that much. Carry on then.

>>96349255

SA is such a weird fucking website. The paid for access and sense of elitism for walling themselves off, and once you're in there it's basically just 4chan if everyone needed to use a trip to post.

It's just a wall for the sake of being a wall, there is no difference except they act smug about what side of the wall they're on.

If you can't tell the line between furshit and beastmen that's 100% on you, OP.

>>96349343
What about both?

>>96349074
Is that really a 'Furry' setting tho? I feel like anything below 10% on the Furry scale shouldn't be counted as Furry.

>>96349074
>Is this just some furry bullshit?
>No.
That's not a furry game. THIS is a furry game.

>>96344219
Hi Tsap, please draw another skaven.

>>96349074
CATastrophe, while a cool concept for the average catgirl enjoyer, is barely a functional game and by design has almost nothing to actually do in the setting, considering it is basically just slice-of-life waterworld with no actual conflict.

I have actually been kind of kicking around an idea for a setting loosely inspired by those old Archie Sonic comics. Don't know if that has quite the same appeal though.

>>96346054
4chan has a specific culture, and people would hate on things even if they don't actually mind them irl. To keep appearances. Though even this helps to keep you from becoming too comfortable.

I've grown calmer over the years, but one thing I detest is the tendency of yours, common to other listed groups, to infect anything you come across. Furries, ponies, troons, gays, etc.
Drawing something I like as gay irritates me and doesn't make me you like you any better. I don't find it fun. I like consistency and integrity.

In TTRPGs specifically, there are still some people who want leniency with the setting, sometimes to the point of injecting something that doesn't belong. Ancient Fur Heresy story is canon example.
Though it is rarer than it used to be, probably because people grew up. Even so, it's useful to remind people to behave, if out of habit.

>>96346128
Also I dislike fur races for being shallow. It's always humans, but x for the sake of scratching some kind of itch. I don't think can I can remember many settings where they feel separate, like say, gnolls. But then again I don't pay attention.

>>96349074
>tells others to "learn the old lore" while calling catgirls furry
Tourist detected
>>96349500
It could work as a slightly reskinned Ryuutama game, but that's about it really.

>>96349255
Furries are also intrinsically tied to the trans and/or pedophile communities thobeit. Except they also rape puppies to death.

>>96350770
Go back to your shitty spinoff, teen.

>>96350786
SA is and always was shit, lil bro, but that doesn't automatically vindicate furries when they started just as shit and have sank even lower. Any community that regularly sweeps for pedophiles, animal rapists, and zoosadists deserves the woodchipper. Simple as.

>>96350770
I don't think that's actually intrinsic, its just a product of furries being leftoids by virtue of being sex perverts, and the left presently being obsessed with trannies and trannies being pedophiles. Hypothetically furries can exist without being involved with those people, they just are in practice.

>>96350990
In my experience furries actually trend towards being right-wing, you just don't see them because they're not the ones wearing fursuits. You see this a lot in online spaces, there are a shockingly high number of furries who nobody would ever know are furries because they're only not public about it.

>>96340338 (OP)
There are more Furries writing your Table Top RPGs, so you really can't contain them.

>>96350998
Furries occupy both extreme ends of the horseshoe how fitting because the brain problems required to get hard over bugs bunny in a dress tends to also produce mentally unbalanced individuals.

>>96350998
I know that tgese types of furries exist, but they're definitely the minority.

>>96351008
>but they're definitely the minority.
They're really not. Go to a Zootopia movie and almost nobody in the theater is going to be wearing a fursuit. You would never recognize them as furries outside of the theaters.

>>96351017
Fursuits are a type of cosplay and not all members of any Fandom based subculture engage in cosplay. That has no bearing whatsoever on their political beliefs. Not to mention that fuirsuits are custom, hand made, craft items that are expensive.

Also there are right wing furries who fursuit. There are literal neonazi furries who fursuit.

>>96351038
Sure but those tend to be the minority. Put it this way, for every furry wearing a fursuit, there's probably 100 more who don't, and of those, probably half are apolitical, and the rest are split along the political spectrum with probably a moderate rightward trend (they do tend to be both male and young which is generally right-wing these days)

>>96351017
Do you think that trekkies watching star trek movies all do it in costume? What a fucking weird take.

>>96351059
Someone whose well adjusted enough to keep their furriness to themselves isn't going to be some trans pedo.

>>96346844
Fair enough. I doubt a lot of us go around sniffing asses in public, but I appreciate you explaining your reasoning anyway.

>Because the ones that DON'T do that, generally don't out themselves as a furry in my experience.
Good point actually. I'm realizing that if you and me knew each other irl you probably wouldn't know I'm a furry. I don't try to hide it or anything, but it's just not something that comes up in conversation often. People eventually catch on, but not before they've known me for a while.

>>96350198
I guess different people have different tolerance towards this sort of thing. I dislike pony stuff too, but I don't really mind seeing bronies around. And this whole site is utterly infested with weebs, but I've kinda just accepted that. They don't bother me.

>>96350219
Honestly fair. There are definitely game devs out there who get lazy and just lean on animal aesthetics.

On the one hand, I know when something should or shouldn't be in a game and/or setting. On the other, there is a degenerate gremlin within me who wants to stick his little freaky willy into anything regardless of how well it would fit the setting. Like being a big titty beastwoman in a 40k game or something

Probably 95% of furries are just people who see a hot woman anthro traits and go "Would" instead of someone who actively takes part in the 'community' or whatever.

>>96351065
Wrong. That doesn't take being well adjusted, that just takes embarrassment. In fact after 20 years of observing furries I've concluded that the only things stopping any furry from fursuitings are cost and embarrassment.

>>96351088
Embarrassment is a sign of being well-adjusted. You don't whip out your cock in public and walk around naked because that would be embarrassing.

>>96351053
>rest are split along the political spectrum with probably a moderate rightward trend
Lol nah, the vast majority sit in the left since that's the camp with all the special snowflake gender identity flags which are perfectly in line with furfags and their whole fursona obsession.

Wearing a fursuit to a movie theater sounds miserable.

>>96351123
See you're making another mistake. Probably 90% of furries don't have fursonas.

>>96351094
>the only thing keeping furries fron whipping their cocks out in public and jacking off is social pressure
What a dire self-report
And you wonder why people are reflexively disgusted by furries when you've just admitted that reflexive disgust is the only thing keeping them from going full degen in public.

>>96351141
>He thinks shame only consists of social pressure
Holy shit we got an actual NPC over here.

>>96351094
Why would you whip out your cock for no reason, are you okay?

>>96351151
Holy shit two of them.

Do you not have a conscious? Do you not understand right from wrong? Are you incapable of acting morally without other people telling you what to do?

>>96351158
Do you not understand that impulsively grabbing your genitals is not normal?

>>96351148
>>96351158
Shame is derived from a deviation from social mores, yes. If the only reason you don't do something is because you'd be embarrassed at breaking social stigmas, then you're admitting your morals are derived wholly from social pressure.
>Do you not have a conscious? Do you not understand right from wrong?
Says the freak whose only reason for not doing something as degenerate as public masturbation is because he'd get shamed for it. Just another projecting self-report, really.

>>96351170
I do understand that. Hence why any normal person would feel shame doing it. The fact that you don't understand that is outing you as a degenerate.

>>96351177
Shame does not require social mores, only morals. If you don't feel shame from doing bad things even when nobody sees you doing them, then you are a moral degenerate and cannot be trusted in society. Since you cannot understand the simple concept that just because nobody saw you do something that doesn't mean it's okay, I can only conclude you are such a degenerate.

>>96351185
I don't feel the impulse to compulsively jack off in public to begin with because I'm not a freak, no. Just like I've never felt the desire to shoplift or not return the shopping cart.

I guess I just don't know what it's like to have a perverse, villainous mindset such as yours whose socially destructive desires are only held in check by the consequences of acting on them. More evidence furries belong in the burnpit, I suppose.

>>96351180
>it's totally normal to constantly battle the urge to masturbate in public
Another self-report, holy shit.

>>96351199
So you are a sociopath without morals, the only thing stopping you from committing any act of indecency being that you aren't in the mood at the particular time. And since you were projecting earlier you are a pedophile as well.

>>96351201
I see another sociopath self-reporting themselves as such. Interesting how you can't help but admit that you have no morals and just do whatever comes to your fancy at any given time, without any capacity for self-regulation.

>>96351141
>that reflexive disgust is the only thing keeping them from going full degen in public.
I think you're onto something, just look at the sort of shit furries get up to at any of their conventions or meetups
>public sex
>used diapers strewn about hotels
>tearing up hotel infrastructure to smoke pot in their rooms
>gratuitous use of poppers
>"heavy petting zoos" where underaged striptease shows occur

>>96349500
Waterworlds should have insane storms thoughever
But for some reason people don't like rescue operations or environmental hazards nearly as much as combat

>>96351204
>>96351207
>n-no u!
Surely you can do better than that. Especially since the actually sociopathic behavior here is the person who has already admitted the only thing keeping him from committing perverse and wicked deeds is societal contract.
>you are a pedophile as well.
Another self-report, I take it

>>96351230
And then there's you, admitting that you're already doing perverse and wicked deeds and you have no capacity to even tell what those deeds are because you have no capacity for shame.

>>96351232
Some people don't need the threat of social shaming hanging over their heads like the sword of damocles to know right from wrong. Unfortunately, it seems that furfags are not these people and thus all the "fursecution" on the internet and IRL were always justified and righteous.

>>96351237
Except as you're already proving you can't tell the difference between social shame and personal shame, showing that you have absolutely no morals and will do whatever you think you can get away with like a total degenerate piece of filth.

>>96351219
This developed from gays who were not even furries using furry conventions as meet-up locations for gay sex. By the time the internet rolled around gay sex had just become a hallmark of furry conventions and it kept regenerating from there.

>>96351246
>no true furfag fallacy
Lol
The degeneracy was baked in from the start

>>96351252
This is why the Soviet Union was based, they didn't allow furries in their country.

>>96351244
>will do whatever you think you can get away with like a total degenerate piece of filth.
Projecting harder than a movie theater there, champ.

>>96351255
You said it, not me. Maybe next time don't self-report on your degeneracy.

>>96351260
You already confessed you're a bioroid with shame-based programming, you really think it's not going to be painfully obvious to everyone here that you're now trying to shame me for having an actual internal moral compass?
>self-report
Those comments really stung, huh?

>>96351270
So far you've projected about transexuality and pedophiila while admitting you don't think either of them is wrong. I don't really give much of a damn what you think anon, you're fucking evil.

>>96351252
No they were obviously always perverts, but the gay sex at cons thing in particular has history to it, its possible to dig up remarks made by con attendees in the 1990s complaining about seeming non-fandom members showing up with no idea what the con was about to go fuck in a ahotel room. Presumably whoever started inviting random people for orgies was a furry.

>>96340338 (OP)
Because:
>Part of the appeal of furry races is seeing how they interact with humans
>Most people are at least partially furries themselves (the amount of people who don't like any anthropomorphic animal characters at all is very small, seriously how many people hate Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck?)
>The furries already made a few games of their own but D&D continues to be the most popular game and it has furry races available
>Most people who get angry about furries are doing so to cover up something way worse about themselves

>>96351290
>you've projected
All you can do is desperately fling my own observations back at me with no sense of intent behind them. Kinda funny you were the one crying NPC at the beginning of this.

>>96351297
>we weren't always gay pedophiles!
>originally we were just pedophiles (some of whom were gay)!
Man, I'm starting to see why everyone hates furries

>>96351313
>if you enjoyed Redwall you're a furry!
Next you'll say watching Avatar the Last Airbender makes you a weeb.

>>96340482
>What is Myriad Song

>>96351325
Correct!

>>96351325
Yes, being interested in anthro animals is literally the definition of being a furry. It doesn't have to be a sexual thing, if you enjoy the Redwall book and related series you're a furry.

>>96351321
Nigger I'm not making an argument about anything, I'm just telling you about the history of degeneracy at furry conventions because I think its interesting that they basically got coopted by pre-internet gay hookup culture and that then got incorporated into furry subculture itself.

>>96351337
>being interested in anthro animals is literally the definition of being a furry
It isn't
>It doesn't have to be a sexual thing
It does and everyone who says otherwise has been outed as a groomer
>if you enjoy the Redwall book and related series you're a furry.
Or you just enjoy a good story. If your only interest in the stories is because they're animals then maybe you'd have a point but most people aren't that brainrotted

>>96351337
Incorrect. "Furry" is a fandom subculture, if you are a fan of a thing but don't associate with other fans of thing, you arent a member of that subculture.

>>96351441
>>96351518
Incorrect. You can be a furry in denial, or a closeted furry, but you cannot like furry things and not be a furry. You’re both just furries in denial at the end of the day.

>>96351668
This is like when legbutts call something "queer coded" so they can justify grooming minors lel. Redwall itself isn't furry, but if you're reading it because you want to fuck Mattimeo then yeah you're a furfag freak.

>>96351847
The fact that you feel the need to express how you’re “not like the other furries” and how your furry hobby isn’t sexual is the most furry thing of all.

>>96351668
You're definitionally wrong.

>>96351865
>not like the other furries
Even now you're trying to claim and groom me lel
Your kind are so predictable.

>>96351981
Grooming would imply you’re not already in the group, lmao.

>>96351989
>gaslight, groom, girl(male)boss!
Lol, it's really all you know huh

>>96351999
Not doing the furry community any favors by acting so cringe anon.

>>96352005
>i know you are but what am i?!
I guess that's why you go after children, you haven't mentally progressed beyond the 4th grade

Given how this has to devolved into mindless name calling, I'm curious. Clearly someone who is attracted to anthropomorphic characters could be classified as some flavor of furry.

But I'm wondering what I might be considered one. I'm demisexual, meaning I can only get it up when a strong emotional attachment is formed. I'm programmed not to care about things like race, gender, age, etc. I don't think Species would matter much to me either, assuming they were of age and able to meaningfully consent (assuming a human enough level of intelligence).

If someone was willing to fuck a cat person, not because that quality enticed them specifically, but because they were able to meaningfully connect to that person, would that person still be considered a furry?

>>96352042
>”I’m not gay, I just like looking at gay stuff!”
Uh huh, sure.

>>96352174
Yes, that person would be a furry. Attraction to species outside of your own is degenerate and unnatural.

>>96348711
>he has pictures of furry butts saved or is able to find them on demand
You're a furry.

>>96351313
>Part of the appeal of furry races is seeing how they interact with humans
I've come to not like people at all. A setting without humans is a setting where I can leave their baggage behind. Is it largely superficial? Sure, and the furries in setting will likely generate their own problems, but I just want the break from the stresses I actually live with.

>>96348711
I mean you are still a furry if you're just attracted to anthro, though if you ain't got a fursuit then I don't care enough to summon my furry hate from decades past.

I still think you lot are about on the same level of weird as lolicons, though.

>>96351668
>liking any sort of media featuring any kind of antrhopomorphized animal makes someone a furry
Your incorrect definition requires that we consider nearly every human to be a furry, which is a really dumb way to categorize things.

>>96352501
That's...a really bizarre take.

>>96352614
Not the normal humans, just the freaks like you.

>>96352671
By that exact definition, people who don't like furry things are abnormal. If liking anything with anthros in it makes you a furry, that means the majority of humans are furries.

>>96352681
Holy shit that’s some major projection on your part anon, just because you like freakshit doesn’t mean most people do.

>>96352686
When you cast a very broad net like
>you cannot like furry things and not be a furry
You classify nearly everyone in the human race as furries, with few exceptions.

>>96352701
That’s still just projection on your part anon. Most people don’t like furshit.

>>96352713
It's only as stupid as classifying any sort of anthro media as furry, making at least a century's worth of cartoons and movies and comics "furry"

>>96352174
>I'm demisexual
Stopped reading there. Don't worry, you're definitely welcomed in the faggot cummunity

>>96352249
Because Redwall is all about animals fucking and sucking, riiiight. I know you've just completely broken down and are desperately flailing about to try and get the last word, so I'll be magnanimous and give it to you. Your welcome, animal rapist.

>>96352794
Why does your mind immediately going to sucking animal dick? Do you want to talk about it? Maybe tell us about your childhood?

>>96340338 (OP)
>why isn't there a setting or game built to contain them?

>>96340338 (OP)
There are many. You aren't looking hard enough.

>>96353292
What can you tell me about Urban Jungle? I have a weakness for the interwar period.

>>96353301
I've not run it yet (only furry game I've run with my group so far is Hc Svnt Dracones 2e), but it is just a reskinned Ironclaw with rules for modern stuff like vehicles and automatic weapons. The gunfighting rules are actually really novel, where a shooting attack can expend any number of bullets, making reloads unpredictable (each firearm has a specific die associated with it. On a roll of 1 with any attack, the gun is now empty).
Like with Ironclaw, it's something I've really wanted to try running. It's got good bones.

>>96352713
You're right, most people viscerally loathe Looney Tunes.

>>96353292
Is that the Lackadaisy artist?

>>96353338
Even if millions of people watched Loony Toons, that still leaves billions of people who did not. You are the minority.

>>96351321
yeah the amount of gay cub on the r34s are staggering compared to the amount of human loli/shota.

>>96349500
>CATastrophe, while a cool concept for the average catgirl enjoyer, is barely a functional game
It's literally just FATE Accelerated.

>>96349500
>has almost nothing to actually do in the setting, considering it is basically just slice-of-life waterworld with no actual conflict.
You can explore the underwater ruins of the past. You can be merchants and traders and pirates, it is an age of sail.
Or you can just RUN a slice of life, there's people right now playing D&D as a coffee shop / dating simulator. It's not remotely built for it. But that's what they're using it for. Just because that doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean there's no audience for it. 4e/Draw Steel are great examples of that concept. The vast majority of people do not want their TTRPG to be a Tactics vidya. But some people that's literally the perfect game.

>>96353346
To my knowledge, yes.

>>96353346
There's art in it from a lot of prominent artists.

>>96353402
>the amount of gay cub on the r34s are staggering compared to the amount of human loli/shota
That's because it's not as risky, legally, not necessarily because it's more popular. 34.xxx bans loli/shota but they keep a cub tag because, for whatever reason, it's less likely for them to get fucked over by babyfur content than it is to get fucked over by a pic of Edward from Cowboy Bebop.

e621 has this precaution too. A bunch of Deltarune art got purged because the main character for the game is an abiguously aged teenager, so anything where they didn't at least look 18+ got the hammer.

Why is this? Fuck if I know. I guess because the kids are obviously not human it's harder to argue they were based on real subjects or whatever. That would be my closest guess.

>>96340338 (OP)
You just mean beastfolk.
They dont have to acknowledge the furry fandom to have them.
And the furry fandom approach to OCs is just kinda fucking lame and without anything compelling about it, I think it says something when you have characters so interchangeable that their artists just can do a template YCH and it all works out.

>>96340913
Heresy

>>96350198
>a specific culture
stuck in 2007

>>96356466
Why are 40kids so cringe?

>>96352915
>TMNT and Other Strangeness with the serial numbers filed off
Well, that's really an untapped niche I guess. Makes me realize that the problem with most furry games is that there's not a clear furry thing for furry characters to do that sets them apart from other playable fantasy or sci-fi species.

If you do a modern day setting where everyone on the planet is a furry, what is there to do? If you make a fantasy game where every playable species is just a different anthro animal and they go do fantasy D&D stuff, people are going to wonder why they aren't playing D&D instead. There's 3rd party material for playing furries in D&D anyways, but then you're just doing D&D things anyways, and the furry stuff is just flavor. You can play cyberpunk where people can get cosmetic augs to look like cat girls, but you're still doing cyberpunk stuff, and it's still not about furries.

Skimming over some info about Mutants in the Now and it seems like being a furry is a central point to the whole thing. It's abnormal in the setting. Animal features and abilities look like they're pretty important in the rules. Your shape and size matter. I don't know if I'm articulating it the right way, but that seems more furry than Ironclaw ever was.

>>96357163
When furries are the only species in a setting, they cease to be interesting. HC SVNT DRACONES has a similar problem where every character is a complex pile of different weird shit, which means there are no normal characters. When everyone is special, no one is. This goes for fantasy settings with beastmen who get treated just the same as elves and dwarves.

>>96358266
It's super easy to make an everyman character in HSD though.
>make dog or cat
>don't choose any weird morphisms
>work for MarsCo
Boom, done.

Like, yeah there's plenty of options for making a weird sparkledog that's actually a sleeper bioweapon but that's just the setting. I don't see how it's much different than Shadowrun or whatever when everyone decides to play orcs and you wind up with no 'baseline' dudes in the party.

>>96353346
Sanguine's art department consists of scrolling the front page of whichever furry site is popular at the time.
Most of the time it works out.

>>96358614
>Most of the time it works out.
I wouldn't say most of the time. The editions of iron claw I saw had more winners than losers but I was really unimpressed with urban jungle. In my opinion they should really stick to modern artists and cut the boomer newspaper shit and 2000s DeviantArt schlock.

>>96359020
I still can't quite believe that they hired Mamabliss of all people to do the cover art for one of their books.

>>96358614
How is it possible there's a Phil who's not Foglio whose art looks exactly like Phil Foglio's

>>96358376
But even the most "normal" character is still a furry.

>>96353367
>that still leaves billions of people who did not
Are you seriously using third-worlders with no access to TV as your definition of "normal"?

>>96359684
Sincerest form of flattery. I was wondering that myself too.
>the Xxxenophile guy does furries, wtf??

>>96359914
Yeah, and? The premise of the game is that humanity died (under increasingly sketchy circumstances) and their sex slave furry children inherited the solar system. The point is that even a baseline character is a little bit odd, if not because they're a furry then because they grew up in a social system where every kid gets their own AI accountant at the age of 13 to manage the stock options that are part of their birthright citizenship/employment.

You the type of guy to complain your PC isn't normal enough when you get invited to a Nechronica game? Can't exactly play a male human fighter in that either but the system is still good.

>>96360150
If you'd read back a couple posts, you'd understand that the assertion is that when every character is a weird furry, it deflates the impact of playing a furry at all, making it no different than playing any other normal character in a non-furry game. Follow the conversation next time.

>>96360207
I referenced that directly in my second paragraph; there's no normal humans in Nechronica either but that's not a negative for the roleplay or character building aspect of it. There are plenty of games where the PCs are required to be oddball weirdos or otherwise not baseline. If you can't get into a setting because there's not any joe schmoe humans to bounce off of that's entirely a (You) problem.

If you want a more normie example: you're basically complaining there's no normal humans in Zootopia when the whole point is to watch different kind of animal people interact with each other.

>>96360624
Again: Follow the conversation. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but that it takes away part of the "otherness" that furries want. Everyone's an animal person so it doesn't matter what kind of animal person you are. It's not something that matters as a thing that contrasts normality. You bring up Zootopia, which explicitly explores the differences between animals and the abnormality of a bunny cop or a small prey animal being the villain in a world where giant predators exist and the social issues that causes.

Otherwise, at best you get racial divide allegory, at worst you get a superficial aesthetic that lends nothing to the fiction.

>>96360624
Nechronica isn't a furry game. Furfags compulsively NEED to impose their furfaggotry on the unwilling. It's part of their "culture"

>>96360714
>at best you get racial divide allegory
Which is ultimately what Zootopia is. Hilariously, the second movie reveals Zootopia was a mammalian ethnostate and they're even MORE racist towards reptiles.

>>96350198
>To keep appearances
Why? This is an anonymous site.

>>96360760

.... There's a fucking Zootopia 2?

>>96360787
It got announced iirc and what vague chatter I've heard about it the plot is hunting down an illegal reptile immigrant.

DEPORT THOSE FILTHY FUCKING SCALEBACKS

>>96351059
Do you not?

>>96360798

I'm starting to think I didn't survive that bus crash back in '14.

>>96360753
He's saying that Nechronica is a game with zero normal humans. Which is analogous to a furry game with only furries in it, but not that Nechronica is a furry game. Your knee-jerk faggotry is tiresome, so give it a rest.

>>96360760
>>96360798
Understandable honestly, the reptilian mind is a cold thing utterly incapable of empathy or feeling. I wouldn't want to live with them either.

>>96360714
>it takes away part of the "otherness" that furries want.
I don't really know if furries want that specifically. I pitched HSD to my playgroup and the furry was just really excited he was going to be able to play a sergal for once. For a lot of people their part in the fandom is literally just
>I think animal people are really cool/sexy
And besides that, exploring otherness via roleplaying something in a situation that's banal in-setting but would be strange IRL is... an extremely basic form of fiction. Most of Cyberpunk is built on exactly that. Everyone being cyberized corpo debt slaves doesn't magically become banal just because it applies to all the characters, it becomes a different lens to do party interaction through.

As for your Zootopia point: like half of HSD's setting notes are all about how Vectors being genetic build-a-bears influences their culture, history, and behavior.
>Rats ran a huge eugenics experiment on themselves because it was discovered part of their genome was a ticking time bomb; this worked but now they're effectively all clones of each other
>rats are also the reason Vectorizing new species is illegal, because they tried to make a slave race (mice) and accidentally'd a race war
>there are large populations of certain Vectors that have essentially gone feral and live like their animal ancestors on account of the physical challenges brought about by being born Lateral (i.e. an uplifted but otherwise normal animal)
>this is somewhat ironic because Lateralism had a working 'cure' but Vectors themselves made the humans responsible do away with it
>vector medical tech can get all sorts of weird because their genome is built from the ground up to be editable on the fly
>plus all the banal stuff like certain species excelling in different parts of the solar system due to climate, or how it's a known phenomenon for aquatic Vectors just dive into Europa's waters without explanation one day and sometimes they don't come back

>>96340338 (OP)
Like gays, commies, and others like them. If they get control of something they turn it to shit and ruin it. So they have to keep infecting other groups, games, etc. They are a cancer. They can't just stay in a containment area for too long. They the worst form of a tourist. As they want to use the game/culture/etc as a platform not just play the fucking game. Hints why they have to push gay shit in the system and whine for more when they get their way till they turn it all into gay furry commie shit.

>>96361697
Give literally one example.

>>96361660
>the furry was just really excited he was going to be able to play a sergal for once
>sergal
Sounds like it's terminal.

>>96361660
>play a sergal
You just disproved your own point there

>>96359020
From what I saw of Urban Jungle, half of the art is trying to be noir and like a fashion magazine of the time, and the other half is trying to be like the comic strips and cartoons of the same period. I don't really see the issue.

>>96362066
I made it up.

>>96348994
>You can’t just pretend that Disney’s Robin Hood or Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers didn’t exist, Anon.
There is a difference between furries as a fandom and talking cartoon animals as a thing in fiction. Furries became a thing in the 70's and 80's and then boomed in the 90's with the internet

Something Awful lost.
Furries won.

>>96362320
>>96362975
>I need to be allowed to play as a this specific furry species in your setting or I can't enjoy your game
Not as big an issue as it is with those avali piss bloods but still

>>96350990
>>96350998
Both of you are retarded and need to commit suicide on camera as apology for being the cancer on this site

>>96363425
I think many people in this thread have already tried to explain that furries are not strictly defined by a set of specific behaviors. Some are fursuiting pants-shitting degenerates and some are barely furries at all, but will still jack off to Renamon with big tits. You're just as likely to find furries who hate the spirit animal talk as you are to find people who believe being a furry is a way of life and that fursecution is tantamount to hatespeech and oppression.

>>96363434
SA became a Tumblr tier hive of faggotry and cuckoldry. Knew many furs who posted there in the Goonfleet days.

>>96351082
Speaking of, did he ever finish that story? Last I read was when she briefly showed up at the school, I think.

>>96351082
Nothing special there lol.

>>96361660
>I think animal people are really cool/sexy

Honestly, it's kind of this simple for most. They think it's cool. So having an animalman instead of just a man increases engagement in total. Thread has a lot of overthinking the issue. Personally, I would encourage anyone in this position to use a default race as a template and file off the numbers. Leave it at that. Should help make things less weird?

>>96363451
Sergals are like the Kender of furries except even more abhorrent
I don't think there even are Kender apologists anymore but there are sergal dindus

>>96363434
FVRGOD TRVKE

>>96365429
So furries for aliens have like the cheese heads, piss raptors and uwu borgs.
lel.

>>96340338 (OP)
Humblewood is great.

i wouldn't call myself a furry, but others probably would
i just think they're neat
i play them if it works for the character i want to play

>>96340338 (OP)
>If furries are such a problem for tabletop
Skimming through this thread and seeing a few people pretending like this is seuch a self-evident problem, but it's really not even enough of a nussiance to be a meme. Freakshit players are more of a problem because we've maybe each had an encounter with a player who only plays Tieflings with stupid names like "Mister Waffles" but the only meme /tg/ has about furfags come from old 4chan culture and 40kfags spewing memes, even though 40kfags are the furries of /tg/.

>>96365429
I find it amazing that the least worst part of sergal lore is the prehensile vagina flap

>>96366638

I can't speak for everyone, but I remember furries used to be a way bigger fucking problem, at least where I'm from. Back in the day, everyone who was 'weird' whether that was the trekies, the goth kids, the dudes who played the not-cool sports (Anything except baseball and football), etc were all kinda shoved onto the same sidelines and just kinda learned to tolerate each other because we were all being punched down at.

The Furries specifically were way more open about what they were weird about and would try to hang around the local comic shop and shit where the rest of us would chill in their fursuits making weird animal noises. And we got it from both sides: because they were 'with us' our already sour reputations were made worse by their enshitification of our social spaces, and when we tried to kick them out they'd wail about how we were being so unfair to the guy who smelled like rancid cheese dressed like a fucking squirrel when we were letting the smoking hot asian chick with dark lipstick read quietly in the corner.

My personal theory is that as more of these 'fringe' interests became more mainstream (for better or worse), there were more spaces open to and accepting of our kind and we were no longer in the same social pressure-cooker environments that created that sort of friction to begin with.

Under the previous system the fur-suit wearing nerds were effectively forced into an environment where the only possible social interaction was with (as an example) the 40k fans, so they were either forced to engage with something they didn't like (bad for them) or forcibly inject things they did like into it (bad for everyone) so they could have fun.

>>96365429

Honestly, the problem with Kender was that nobody actually understood/respected the lore. People used Kender as an excuse to steal shit and be asshole to their party, but actual Kender in lore just didn't have a strong sense of things like 'private property' or 'personal space'.

Someone who understood the assignment would immediately stop the 'problematic behavior' and act confused in character as they came to terms with the new social norms they were expected to adhere to. The fact that nobody did so and immediately threw bitch fits upon finding out their actions would have consequences are the problem with Kenders.

The problem with Sergals are explicitly the Sergals themselves. They were almost created with the express purpose of being as vile and problematic as possible, and unfortunately, EVERYONE embraced that direction for the species. Sergals come in two flavors: The ones who are satisfied with the base level of degeneracy, and the guys who try to out-Sergal the other Sergals in a slanneshi race to the fucking bottom(s of underaged boys).

>>96365429
>Sergals are like the Kender of furries except even more abhorrent
Fucking how?
Theres a single general who is a monster and does reprehensible things, while the rest of them are just normal people. Or did you idiots confuse her abhorrence as a trait for all of them? Like seriously, theyre literally just funny looking humans from the far future.

It's funny. The two furfags at my table are running human characters, and the two non-furfags (I think) are running beastfolk characters.

>>96367361
In both cases they have a stigma is what I meant. You play a kender instead of a regular halfling, I'm going to assume you're going to make a raving mad kleptomaniac. You play a sergal and try to convince me you don't like any of the rape and murder and vore stuff and you're on thin ice from the get go

>>96367882
>You play a sergal and try to convince me you don't like any of the rape and murder and vore stuff
So you judge all sergal characters based on a single sergal character who is a reprehensible monster, considered so in and out of universe. Why?

>>96361126
>He's saying that Nechronica is a game with zero normal humans.
And I'm pointing out the difference in mentality between Nechronica and your average furfag. Try to keep up, lil bro.

>>96368014
you said
>Nechronica isn't a furry game.
Which sure fucking sounds like you missed the point, and why you are lashing out now instead of slinking off to be retarded somewhere else.

>>96367967
>based on a single sergal character who is a reprehensible monster
-who is the poster child for the race and universe as intended by the creator of the whole thing

>>96340338 (OP)
In the early 90s one ogf the very first muds was a furry sex fetish thing. They have been after kids from day one ANYTHING with younger people attending, like RPGs, tabletop games, science fiction concentions, toy stores, swim clubs, gym clums, boy scouts, the clergy, kids entertainners etc etc ANYTHING that has access to kids will also have furries.Anyone who thiunks furries are harmless has no clue what they are about. Pure evil.

>>96367361
dragonnlance was good especially the 3.5 reincarnation it has nothing to do with the evil of furries

>>96368359
>who is the poster child for the race and universe as intended by the creator of the whole thing
No. They were the villain of a story they were creating. Also an OC who they put in silly situations. And they're relevance to Sergals in the fandom wasn't as all encompassign as 4chan desperately wanted to to be and seemed to delight in. And in the years since General Raine Silves was made popular here, shes been relegated to basically nothing now that there's a ton more actual official sergal art for the official comic. Shes a nothing from a time when 4chan wanted to shove every weird little monster in people's faces.

Among the furry fandom, the General was mostly just a curiose oddity that didn't really matter to the full sergal species. Most didn't give a damn what one lore character did, because it had no bearing on playing dress up with your new furry gangly raptorshark doll with funny genitals.

>>96368340
>PLS GO AWAY INSTEAD OF POINTING OUT HOW RETARDED I AM
lul

>>96368858
No one is forcing your to humiliate yourself repeatedly.

>>96368590
>sergal apologetics in 2012+13

>>96368496
>>96367882

The wider point I was making is that Kender are usually bad, while Sergal are incapable of being good.

This thread has convinced me to play a kobold in every campaign now. Thanks.

>>96371254
Shake things up from time to time by playing a gnoll.

>>96371835
Nah, we have a perma gnoll player. It would be weird.

>>96371254
Godspeed.

>>96371254
Please, do not. I have one of these very players in my current group and I am tired of their antics.

Of course if you actually play DIFFERENT kobolds in each campaign then I'm sure that'd be fine but please don't just reskin the same annoying gremlin every time. It gets old by the second iteration, especially if your character's a shitter.

>>96349029
But I am not of an ancient tribe of people that migrated to India, anon.

>>96340913
Therians

>>96342237
Sauce for the comic?

>>96345764
>>96346292
Cringe

>>96376865
>doesn't know about DMFA
https://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_001.php
No clue what number it is, there's over 2000 of the things.

>>96376902
>No clue what number it is
It's right there in the filename, number 53.

>>96352915
Seconding this as both a system furries would enjoy, as well as a good system if you want to play TMNT but don't want to deal with Palladium's retarded bullshit.

>>96376902
Thank you very much, kind anon.

>>96340338 (OP)
>why isn't there a setting or game built to contain them
Because you cannot contain furries. They're the sort that must insert their lifestyle and/or fetish into anything they're a part of because they consider it core to their identity no matter how inappropriate for the given context.

Fact: If you wouldn't enjoy the company of a pretty, soft & fluffy woman, you are not a man

>>96379377
That's nice, animal rapist.

>>96379377
Your terms are acceptable.

>>96379882
Lowtax killed himself. You lost.

>>96351094
>You don't whip out your cock in public and walk around naked because that would be embarrassing.
Maybe for you and your tiny pecker.

>>96378847
I don’t understand this
I don’t feel the need to bring up the crushing desire to be deep inside the intestines of a giantess or dragon or really any being organism in everything I do despite being a massive gooner who can’t stop thinking about it for half the day.
So what’s their excuse?
Why is it different?

>>96386196
the goons are all furries or tr**ns now, that is just a 12 year old who discovered this fun website where he can be edgy anonymously
t. was a goon 14 years ago.

>>96386196
>thinks anyone gives a fuck about somethingawful
>thinks only SA can hate furries
lmao
>>96387283
>furfag
>immediately thinks about children
lol

>>96340338 (OP)
They can't be "contained" anymore. This was the mistake we made the first time. These animals spread around like a cancer and for the most part were left alone cause of "live and let live" mindset people had. However as soon as they got a chance for power, they try to enforce their pedo troon groomer shit on everyone. Then called anyone that wasn't for it an "ist and a phobe." They fucking dropped the mask and expose themself like they want to expose themself in a Chuck E. Cheese. At this point anyone that try to push for peace and "amnesty" with these pedo in a half suit. I am going to cast out as a cuck or backstabber.

(Yes for the based Furries who weren't for it and were often purged before this shit when down as the freaks got into power, I know you might be hit on this. However, just do what you been doing and stay underground or if you're out as a alt-furry or whatever they fucking call a furry that's not a fag commie. Remind people like the normal black guy has to do that you're not a nigger like Floyd and all. Though to be fair it's easier for you guys since unlike based black men, you can go out most places without looking like those things. Black people see the skin and have to question everything even if they don't dress the part and all.)

>>96387404
It's been asked before, but give literally one example of furries invading, taking power, and then enforcing "pedo troon groomer shit" on a /tg/ hobby. The closest thing I can even think of, and I'll give this to you as a freebie, is Lancer. However, Lancer's community is just fully of troons in general, and they have nothing to do with furries as some kind of invasive force. I'd even understand if you were talking about queers and trannies, in general, because they verifiably do that shit and destroy communities with cancerous social politicking and witch hunting. I've just never, in all my years before 4chan existed and to this day, seen furries take over and enforce their furry shit on anything.

>>96387779
Unironically have met more based furries than any other weird online sub group. Generally if you're a weirdo troon leftist commie and front as furry it's less to do with the furry element and more to do with just invading yet another group.

>>96380221
Highly respectable behaviour

>>96387779
it's one of those fake problems to generate fake engagement for their fake overlords.

I've found that like another anon said, for most furries playing a furry race isn't even totally necessary. They are happy enough being able to just interact with or see them even in the form of npcs. The HMOFA/etc. groups are proof enough of that

>>96387944
Most of the people I know who hate trannies are furries.

>>96388744
Probably because furries are more likely than most to actually have to interact with them.

>>96388744
Really shouldn't throw stones in glass houses on the tranny question, given how many furries fly troon flags or collect pronouns like they're pokemon.

>>96387779
Setting immersion as a concept has been undermined for over a decade by all sorts of shit. I mean sometimes you get someone who will shift their OC over to the race the setting has that is the closest fit for their furry OC or have a human form of them but I have noticed you get people unwilling to do even that. Space opera settings have it particularly bad since they can go 'well they came from another planet and evolved into talking ponies' while a fantasy setting can put more constraints on shit like that by virtue of being one region of one planet.

>>96390232
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>96391153
I dont want your peepee raptors, cheese heads or uwu borgs. I want a grey who takes psychedelics instead, get over it.

>>96391237
Wow, very Reddit and funny and unique!

>>96391250
seethe harder, piss raptor.

>>96391237
Nah fuck that too. It's just more haha random humor and the kind of tacky, tasteless shit someone into NFTs would go for. It is okay to have a setting where stuff is taken seriously believe it or not.

>>96391237
Did you reply to the wrong posts?

>>96391428
No you cheese headed freak, I know what I am doing.

>>96340338 (OP)
Is there any good way of rendering Equestrian characters in DnD?

>>96393802
Isn't the "Ponyfinder" pathfinder homebrew exactly that?