Thread 96345024

Ulgu edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96335835

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread questions:
Are you happy with your faction's spearhead(s)? What would you (realistically) put in the box if you were asked to come up with a new one?

>>96345024 (OP)
Does anyone know the name of that boat city and if it has a more detailed map?

>>96345024 (OP)
>TQ
It's fine. It's not an exciting selection of units, but anyone who gets started building a tree army will most likely want to have at least one box like this, if not two.

>>96345044
It's called Misthåvn and it has no map.

>>96345024 (OP)
>TQs
>seraphon
I like both spearheads, they're very different in terms of playstyle and feel, beefy and straightforward in the old one, finnicky and technical in the new. They also don't overlap outside of the basic saurus, which you don't mind anyway.
As for a new spearhead, we used to have a skink start collecting, so why not do something like that again.
I threw together picrel, it's got your basic skinks, the starseer, bastilodon and the new raptadons. Ends up being 188 yuros which is great value (40% I think), but still within bounds, the new idk one is 190 yuros for example. Could switch the starseer to starpriest if you want to decrease the value a little.

>>96345044
a roaming city made of boats is unlikely to have a map

>>96345044
>>96345051
Aren't most of the boats coming and going, with only a few parts being permanent fixtures?
Would be hard to make a relevant map if any part of the city could be docking on the other side of it next week

>>96345024 (OP)
>TQ
>idoneth
new box is fantastic value, eels (of course) and king are great in game and even reavers pull their weight. Old one was decent too.With how small the army is currently you can't really come up with a very different potential third one, unless you start to get weird with the underworlds warbands (and even then). I'm happy though.
>>96345044
>>96345051
>>96345061
like the other guys said misthavn is a collection of boats bound together, which can be broken up and later reassembled at any time if necessary. Can't really have a map of that, though we do have a map of where in Ulgu it's usually hanging out (just southwest of the center).

>>96345044
The point of the city is that it's made of boats congregating around the massive sigmarite ship guarding the realmgate

people think the realmgate is fixed onto the ship and that the sigmarites move it around for protection, but in truth the gate moves on its own and the role of the big ship is to follow it

>>96345078
It would be funny if ulgu didn't have any maps at all

>>96345024 (OP)
Kind of.
I could have 2
Devoted of Morathi, bow sneks, spear sneks, khinerai and the iron scale

Gladiatrix, doomfires, witch elves, shadow stalkers as an alternative one

Squigs gone wild, boss on giant squid, squig hoppers, squig herd, sneaky snufflers

>>96345084
a more detailed illustration of the main nave.

>>96345096
Lel, thematically appropriate
>>96345103
With gitz you could basically turn any of their subfactions into their own spearhead, they're fun that way. For trolls you could have rockgut, Fellwater, dankhold and mollogs mob to get one of each. Would end up at about 41% discount so great but still doable. Would be absolute ass to actually play against in spearhead though, just imagining it hurts my soul.

Guys, I'm looking for a link to Slaves on Darkness, Orruks Warclans, and Gloomspite Gitz from 4th Edition. If any of you have any of the aforementioned, I'd appreciate it if you could share a link.

>>96345122
served bro.

>>96345024 (OP)
>>Thread questions
No. The lumineth one is so unbelievably dog water. I'd swap the blade lords (even though they're my favorite unit) for cav. This brings the box up about 250 points to about 600ish which seems to be the sweet spot for good spearheads.
Counterpoint: it has given me a reason to buy the sylvaneth one and I'm having a blast building them and starting my White cold sylvaneth.

>>96345150
Meant to say also swap the shit wizard for the Lord regent

>>96345150
Sylvaneth models are so good. Criminally underrated faction.

>>96345177
They're just too naked
everyone knows the best factions are the ones with full suits of armor and ripping off some culture

>>96345150
The lumineth one is especially weird because it's one of the few totally new factions with an actually varied roster and they decide to just put the box full of infantry ? Swap the bladelords for dawnriders or the missile cav like you said and it's instantly more tolerable.
>>96345187
What's the matter barkless boy, afraid you might touch something?

>>96345177
True that, I really don't understand why they're not more popular

>>96345280
These are probably the hardest models to paint too maybe bar alarielle. Love these models.

How the heck are you supposed to paint these bases? The flying stands have a flat base themselves that covers a good amount of the base. Do you prime the base, then glue on the flying stand, and then brush paint over the stand's base?

>>96345280
>why they're not more popular
the half tree half elf concept is dumb. They should be wood elves with treants, nature spirits, and giant bugs.

>>96345280
boys don't want to play with girl's toys

>>96345024 (OP)
I like the FEC one, moreso that it retains noble deeds now

>>96345375
Have you not heard of masking tape? Glue the entire thing together and mask off the clear bit with masking tape. Then spray to your heart's content.

>>96345280
The play style is very boom or bust. The models have always been ace that can look good at any skill level. The other anchor is the reliance on placing (and buying) additional terrain. It makes traveling anywhere with the army a pain (in 1st/2nd I needed a separate entire box just for woods); that's even if you have a car (I do). I can't imagine trying to travel with all the shit you need for sylvaneth on a bus or train like the europoors seem to be obsessed with

>>96345280
Aren't they among the most popular factions?

>>96345418
I thought Seraphon were the designated girl faction

>>96345479
Searphon are unisex. Boys like dinosaurs, girls like cute lizards, non-binary people like eldritch beings of immense power, it has something for everybody

>>96345454
No sane person is doing that terrain stuff traveling. There's plenty of templates that are the exact footprint. It's less immersive but it makes everyone's lives easier trying to move models in and out or around. I have some 1/8 inch footprint 3d prints.

>>96345479
Sylvaneth and seraphon here at the lgs, and some skaven. For 40k it's tyranids apparently.

>>96345024 (OP)
>TQ
What spearhead?

>>96345280
The whole tree ghost thing is weird ngl, I've never liked Revs save in isolating their disparate design elements
Wood Elves with tree armour? Yeah okay.
Elf ghosts? Nice!
Tree men? Kino!
All three together, nah man.

When they started putting the Warcry warbands in the Spearheads I was like, oh cool, that means they're going to stick around.

But then I started worrying that GW is going to make them Spearhead only.

>>96345503
> Sure it's less immersive
Ok WAS FAGGOT/poor FAGGOT, no one cares. If it's part of the army to play, you buy it, build it, PAINT IT, and play it. Not all of us get into wargaming to be poorfags/WAACfags

>>96345633
They should use spearhead to keep in production the various warcry and underworlds bands they would otherwise remove.

>>96345651
I think they kinda ARE.
The newish seraphim Underworlds Warband (which finally brought us an updated Sunblood) is basically only in the spearhead box. Same for the underworlds ogre icebrow hunter refresh

>>96345693
kinda, but not fully, the seraphon one should contain the starblood stalkers too

and I absolutely want to see one mainstay gloomspite boxset with all these added to whatever other kits necessary for a spearhead

Surely the weekly Monday model reveal will be for AoS.

>>96345724
A Trogghorde Spearhead with Mollog, a Dankhold, and a couple units of Rockguts would be so insanely sweet. That would get me starting a Trogghorde immediately.

I'm still mad I missed that Trugg box set. One of the only AoS boxes to sell out in the first day, if I recall correctly.

GW, the people call out for Troggoths!

Is there a PDF of the KO battletome? I'm trying to put together a list to run a game soon but new recruit only has rules for the battletome, not the faction pack.
Additionally, why can I only shove 2 skyvessels into the regiment that has my general? The limit on units isn't exceeded in my other regiment but it only allows 1 skyvessel.
Any advice?

>>96345756
sory, anon. It's Horus Heresy Star Collecting boxes

I'm not a Horus Heresy guy but a box of robots is a little tempting, ngl

as a gloomspite player, i really dont like the silo-ing of its various elements into walled gardens. its one of the worst aspects of the tomes (the keyword bingo, mono-keyword subfactions and traits, etc) and the whole army is worse off for it

I SMELL THE BREATH OF DRACOTHIAN IN YOU

>>96345831
I agree that gitz should be more integrated, at least the squig and trog and moonclan part. The spider part makes sense as it's own thing, and the sun goblins don't fit with any of it. they seem more likea WHFB army

>>96345884
That’s horrifying

>>96345886
Spiders are creepy crawlers present in various non-Spiderfang kits

>>96345886
>they seem more likea WHFB army
Beyond retarded observation.

>>96345775
the rockguts really are one the best kits ever put out by gw. Lots of character and lots of customization, it's really impressive. Especially on an organic kit

>>96345902
it's the horned helmets, chariots, and banners. they fit more with the general Orcs and goblins. They're more barbarian-esque than GLOOMspite gitz, who went all in on the moon worship and cave dwelling.

>>96345724
If you reshuffle them you almost get some half coherent units.

>>96345949
By all accounts, the tome should have changed name or the mobs should have gotten their own separate book.

>>96345985
The underworlds team really love gits don't they
Speaking of gits subfactions, is there any hope for these guys to get a refresh, and failing that at least for them not to be squatted? Also, when did they remove the spider chief?

>>96345783
Those 9 models will cost £110

>>96345996
Absolutely zero chances they stay as naked tribal forest goblins

>>96346015
they'll probably moonclan them up a bit if they decide to keep them. Honestly i'm surprised they survived this edition's battletome

>>96345902
The picture for the O&G arcane journal literally has the new 'gitmob' models front and center, they were 100% planned for TOW as well as AoS.

>>96346015
>>96346069
From the start it was obvious they want the spider theam around, they jsut want them to look like normal gits instead of indians

>>96345996
the big spider looks fine

>>96346084
I wish they dropped the spiders too though. make them various types of creepy crawlies (including a spider) instead of just spiders.

if every time I look at them I don't get flashbacks to that king kong scene, then they're doing it wrong.

>>96346083
You’re a fucking retard

>>96345996
Spider riders have a backup in "counts as snarlfang riders".

>>96346139
Lmao at this newfag.

>>96346083
>The picture for the O&G arcane journal literally has the new 'gitmob' models front and centre.
You mean the cover?
I don't really see it outside of the one Wolf with Goblins on it

>>96346199
He thinks the two goblins in the middle are riding on the same wolf despite it actually being the two of them on different mounts.

>>96346083
The OG Snarlfangs were being designed for UW before GW even greenlit the existence of TOW you retard.

>>96346199
>>96346248
Holy shit how fucking retard are you fucking animals. How are you even smart enough to get on a computer.
Tell me how many Wolf riders in TOW history had two goblins on a wolf (it's zero)
Tell me how many Underworlds warbands had two goblins on a wolf like the snarlfang cav. The answer is zero.
You queers are so retarded I'm surprised you are allowed online without a minder. Is this shit was HIV or gay cancer does to a nigga?

>>96346286
The goblins are even more explicitly on separate wolves

>>96346326
Bottom right goblins*

>>96345902
>Cobes saw pic related irl and thought "Yeah, she's the one"

>>96345024 (OP)
>tq

I mean, it's fine. Buy a couple of these and you basically are set for FEC and you can kinda grab whatever else you'd want piecemeal. Kinda the issue with hordes is you are probably gonna need 2 of your starter boxes. But Morbhegs are very fun, Cryptguard are perfectly fine (a bit better now for screening since I think they can give strike last on someone charging them now)

>>96346199
think again

>>96346199
If you ignore everything but the fact there are models with two goblins on it, it's obvious the Gitmob were meant for TOW

>>96346544
That's not a wolf with 2 goblins. It's 2 wolf's each with 1

>>96346797
Yeah I can see where the confusion is coming from but when taking a closer look it becomes quite obvious that it's 2 wolves

>>96345024 (OP)
>TQ
Fuck off

I'm really enjoying this novel, it's got an interesting story, great characters/character development, engaging action and gives a good insight into the Alarith.
BUT WTF IS THE OBESSION WITH FOUR ARMS?!
The main villain has four arms, and it seems like every single enemy the characters fight or daemon that appears in the novel has four fucking arms, usually ending in some sort of weapon.
If not four arms, then they've got scorpion tails. It's getting ridiculous at this point. Only bad part of the novel thus far.

>>96346914
having four arms and scorpions are cool, you sound like a fag.

>>96346914
They fighting Slaaneshfags? Cuz 4 arms and scorpion dildos are their thing.

>>96346839
What's wrong with this? I just bought this for my gf so we could build and paint models together. Is it not a good starter box? Bad builds, easy to break, etc?

>>96346972
Some people just get unreasonably butthurt about the Warlocks.

I've always loved the High Elf vs Dark Elf thing in WFB and would like to play that sort of matchup again in AoS.
How balanced/unbalanced are these two Spearheads against one another? Do the Lumineth just steamroll the DoK or are the DoK super OP and kick the ass of Teclis' favourites?

>>96346999
Checked, but hardly unreasonably, how many people are playing DoK for warlocks? Lmao

What the actual fuck were they thinking with this, is there someone in GW who genuinly thinks Nagash is so strong that you'd need to have a shitty AOR that nerfs him for the first 2 turns.

Like oh wow, you can allocate 3 damage points to one unit once per BATTLE. Or imagine the sheer power of subtracting 3 from their c ontrol score!!

>>96347055
It's an army of renown it's there for flavor not waacfaggotry

>>96347077
Nagash couldn't fit into WAAC if he tried. I just don't understand the concept of making him even fucking lamer than he already is. Give the poor guy a fucking break.

>>96346999
Ah, I see. Luckily she's just into sexy warrior women so I think she'll be fine with whatever.

>>96347090
He does get a big boost to his ward save make up for still being in bed at the start of the game. So there's that at least. The idoneth army that summons an Eidolon seems to be the same flavor but even shittier if I remember.

>>96345024 (OP)
>TQ
Not a fan of fusil platoon because a good chunk of the army folds in melee but the older one is solid with the horsies and fuckoff cannon

>>96347053
Lady I fought playing DoK had 5 of them because if you line them up sideways you can get a pretty decent meatwall to stop charges.

>>96345150
>No. The lumineth one is so unbelievably dog water. I'd swap the blade lords (even though they're my favorite unit) for cav.
Really? Seems like one of the better ones if you're looking to start an army. It's basically all normal core infantry and lrl have so many wizards buying multiples is worth it since you can convert the meth dealer into other characters.

>>96347017
Spearhead is balanced

>>96347135
It's a neat concept but Nagash himself just feels too expensive compared to what he brings to the party. I'm bitching about the AOR but I guess I'm still just bitching about Nagash.

>>96347055
I don't know what this AoR is even supposed to be, there's no payoff for the downside, there's no text for completing the ritual. Why would you run this trash instead of just putting him in the army.

>>96345996
Spider riders never got something else aside from the skull pass set right? All using the same sprue

>>96345775
I do like the new look of rock trolls, but having the old models have some charm on them

Even the green "normal" trolls

>>96347017
Never played against or with each of them but looking at first glance i feel that DoK have ways to take advantage with speed and range

But i know the lumineth might have such bs hiding or way better range with all those archers

>>96347181
Fair, pretty sure most of the big god models aren't actually worth their points now except for Morathi aand maybe Allarielle?

>>96347217
Kragnos is pretty fuckin' good, even if he's not on 2+ save anymore. d3 charge aura is pretty solid on top of a decent profile.

>>96346839
I'll collect this army when they replace this box with one that's good.
>>96346999
complaining about buying units that are getting 100% retired soon is legitimate.

>>96347017
Spearhead is about as perfectly balanced as anything in warhammer has ever been.

>>96347228
Could be worse, imagine getting a unit retired that's existed since your faction launched....

>>96347203
>Spider riders never got something else aside from the skull pass set right? All using the same sprue
nope, they got a kit after skull pass, this is the kit after skull pass

>>96347244
yeah it sucks, I have 12 of them painted.

>>96347244
Well on the plus side, since that unit is no longer a unit but aesthetically similar and on the same bases as most of the other units, you can just throw your glaivewraiths in your reaper squads for variety or use them as bladegheists or chainghasts or whatever

>>96347169
Being all infantry It's just not very exciting I think, also very light pointswise. Second lowest, just ahead of sons, which is saying something. Not a bad discount though, around 35% I think?
>>96347217
Kraggy is great, kroak and ush too if you count them
>>96347244
I understand that they were kind of weird since they were only in underworlds + souls wars launchbox, but I'm sad these little fuckers are gone. Really cool models

13 USD per tree lord is fucking OP. Today I built the ancient and the arch revenant. Primed the rest of my spearhead too

>>96347356
Where?

>>96347406
Hachette collections, stormbringer volume 40. It has the body sprue, but also that sprue is the only one the ancient needs. If you want to make durthu and normal Treelord, you just need the bits from the 2nd sprue you get with the spearhead/treelord kit. Spearhead+2 magazines makes you 1 of each.

>>96345996
I would really like for them to refresh them, but I don't think they will at this point. The spider riders rank perfectly on squares, so I assume they're gonna get TOWed, arocks will go with them. As for why the scuttleboss went oop, the mould was on its last legs. I got mine at the start of second and the abdomen was so pitted and mangled that I just covered it up rather than struggle to fix it

Swifthawk Agents update coming soon. I can feel it.

>>96347440
The fact they still appear every now and again in BL is hilarious. Kragnos' book has several mentions

>>96347457
Not really hilarious, just good world building. An important part of the world popping up often and actually doing its job makes the world feel more continuous and better established.

>>96347467
Yeah, but usually GW is cutthroat about their corporate property and don't give a fuck
Wanderers just disappeared over night

>>96347440
>spreading this garbage forced meme to /aosg/
fuck off back to your containment general

>>96347430
where did you get yours? the website is super broken on my browser

>>96347480
The website US. Honestly I hit a bad gateway/dead site upon submitting my order but I got charged and messaged their customer support who was fast. Confirmed they got my order and it showed up in a few days. Got the revenant too since that's 13 bucks instead of 40

>>96347480
https://www.hachettecollections.com/en-us/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-stormbringer/

Here give this a shot, it's such a fuckin' good way to get models. (Also traded some stuff up value wise)

>>96347508
Nta but this is what that link looks like for me

>>96347356
well more like $17

>>96347508
I've tried ordering off their website in the past and my card will just not go through. Seems like a bit of a shitshow all around.

>>96347473
>Wanderers
Their own fault for not having a proper name like "Sneak-Tree Realm Arrows" or "Ghyranite Assault Gardeners"

>>96347535
yeah, same. thats the broke ass website i was getting. nothing searchable, shit which is supposed to be clickable links like "load more pages" is just text.

looked jank as fuck

>>96347551
Oh you're right, my bad. Should just bought them for 60-90

>>96347561
I had a problem with it until I let it auto-fill the address and zipcode.

>>96346000
You say that like we all haven't been thoroughly buckbroken already. What, was that supposed to deter us?

>>96347495
I'm peeved they only have part 1 of the kit, admitedly I could just buy 2 of those and 1 actual treelord to get all 3 types.

>>96347244
Blame Underworlds for stealing them. You'll see them sold in a few months in another Death 4 pack, probaby with Sepulchur Guard and the Necromancer bithc with a werewolf husband

>>96347769
>Blame Underworlds for stealing them.
But Banshees were exactly the same and are still in the book

>>96347731
I mean it sucks but I was gonna play sylvaneth anyways so spearhead box is super value with these 2.

>>96347769
>werewolf husband
Tell me more.

>>96345049
You say that like it isn't arguably one of the strongest in the game right now and is literally the CORE of the army for collection purposes. Especially if you build durthu and just "counts as" during spearhead. Kurnoth are MVP and revenants are your best "chaff objective scorer"

>>96347863
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Zondara%27s_Gravebreakers

>>96347934
Poor thing doesn't have a tail... (Also, a very interesting perspective of showing werewolf's firm butt.)

>>96347508
>Half the issues aren't even available in the US
haha fuck

Is the next Battletome just going to be HASHUT, or do we have any others in between?

>>96348038
We don't know, there hasn't been any update on what's next

>>96348038
My understanding was to expect them by October, whether that's pre-order or in-hand I'm not sure.

>>96348022
I messaged em on it a few months ago, they're just waiting to see how much stock they have leftover apparently.

>>96348038
Well I mean there’s underworlds but I should expect it either with or after hel.

>>96348102
I think the raffle thing ended on 13 sept, so we could get them around then.

Baseless speculation: Next 4 tomes will be, in order:
>Ogors
>Cities
>Slaanesh
>Lumineth
Reasoning: They'd probably give Destruction some pity rep before doing some orderwank and then elf v elf double release

What’s a good start for Nighthaunt for the new book? I’m picking up the Warcry band for painting at least.

>>96348144
Get a proper transport method that isn't a shoebox so they don't hook to each other and snap off at the slightest provocation
Then get the spearhead

>>96348140
nah, next is nurgle

>>96348140
Ogors and cities are getting some updates, so probably won't be so soon after chorfs. Nurgle around december with their release, so I could see two or three pity hero tomes between sept/oct and christmas.

>>96348140
I think ogres, cities, seraphon and ossiarchs received a spearhead out of the blue because they'll be the last releases
we got rumors for nurgle, khainites and sylvaneth, so those are likely next
leaving tzeentch, slaanesh, gargants and lumineth after them

>>96347807
Banshees are all identical, Glaves had a musician

>>96345633
I think they should have turned pic related into a generic unit in the book

>>96348277
I always get peeved the main leaders don't just get made into a hero. Like "Ghoul Chef" or some shit.

>>96346972
Snakes and elves don't synergies

>>96347017
I've played once against LRL with DoK and I won

>>96348258
I still can't believe banshees don't even get a health or damage increase.

>>96348038
still think making Hashut an ancestor god is rather dumb

>>96348038
Chorfs are next, last one we know about until we get a new roadmap in fact.

It was her turn this summer. Never forgive Nasu.

>>96348323
Wasn't that always a theory? I prefer they'd keep it more ambiguous, but it's not the worst option. At least it's the stupid aspect of khorne one.

>>96348321
they lost both durability and damage.

>>96348358
I think you're confusing the theory that the ancestor god Skavor made the Skaven it just weird that even the TOW timeline says he's not an ancestor god, so it just seems like an odd change for the development team

>>96348277
Wait you cant run these in FEC anymore? I thought you could previous edition.

>>96348432
No, hashut being an ancestor god was always considered a possibility by fans, even if not especially when the fluff tried to suggest hashut was the pinky finger of khorne or some shit.
skavor is another thing.

Help me /aosg/, you're my only hope. Do (non flying, zero movement, multi model like chains or shards) Manifestations benefit from being within 1" of an Obscuring terrain?

>>96346914
This is probably one of the best Black Library novels I've ever read. It's just a genuinely very good fantasy novel, which is rare for anything GW writes.

>>96348432
Yeah I know about the skavor thing but no I seem to remember the corrupted ancestor god theory being a thing way back. The three big theories I always heard were ancestor, khorne aspect, renegade daemon-turned-god

Any scan of the Deepkin battletome yet?

>>96348613
No one with a scanner cares enough about Deepkin to have scanned it. Speaks fucking volumes that we have BoK, FEC, and NH scans even if it’s just the rules, but none of IDK. Of course I had to pick the faction of neglect.

>>96348637
>Of course I had to pick the faction of neglect.
A simple "no" would have done. Didn't need your self loathing homo.

>>96348637
5th will be our year fishbro.
at least the new spearhead is great

>>96348437
Most Underworlds warbands were removed. Some got re-added as generic units instead of named characters like they were before.

>>96348140
Can we expect minis? Or just tome update?

>>96348613
Do tell anons

When deepking got revealed what was the reaction of people? I barely remember anything of them, even people playing them

>>96348757
Disappointment, mostly. IDK haven't had a significant update since they released in 2018, and they still haven't.

>>96348757
Their stuff was slightly reworked so people were cautiously optimistic about tomes no longer being copy pasted indexes. They actually got nerfed pretty badly (mostly their turn 3 bullshit), but people didn't talk about it that much. I think the rules discussion got mostly drowned out by the complaints about no new units and more heroes instead.
Sidenote, crazy to see idoneth being a bottom 5 army and kruleboyz in the top.

>>96348757
>Ogors: gnoblar refresh and gnoblar hero
>Cities: named human foot hero
>Slaanesh: nerfs, but slaangors are now 10 points
>Lumineth: a whole new range with either the fire or water temple

>Snarlboss is on 50x25, leading bigger models on 60x35 and 75x42 bases
Nah

>>96348835
What’s crazy is that all the higher level players are coping that they like the book and the “challenge and flexibility” of playing with it despite still having trouble piloting it anywhere near as well as they could pilot the index. Shark spam seems to be the most viable option right now and that’s a seasonal rule that isn’t even in the actual tome. GW for some reason thought that raising the skill floor and nerfing the army is exactly what it needed. Another insult to injury is taking away our best artifact, buffing it and giving it to FEC.

>>96348866
WHAT CONTENT CREATOR ARE YOU HOW DARE YOU BREAK YOUR NDA

>>96348140
We kinda already expect maggotkin coming relatively soon

>>96348866
>fire temple
Every fucking time. It’s Zenith. It’s the light of the realm beyond its sky.

>>96348757
A reliable rumourmonger has hinted at a certain name ogre overtyrant (globb) getting a model, people have also speculated that the basic glutton/leadbelcher/ironguts trio might get a refresh, though that's mostly just wishlisting.
For cities, the same rumourmongers have said they'll get some love this edition. What that is isn't exactly clear, though there's even older rumours pointing to a cogfort.
Finally there's nurgle, of which it's been said they'll have a release around christmas, involving pestigors and maybe updated plaguebearers and possibly some other shit.
There's also been mentions of eshin, and khul getting his ascended model, though the latter would be "way later than we think" or something like that.
I think that's all for actually reliable rumours, people with a proven trackrecord and all.

>>96348873
Cain Wraith was on a smaller base than Grimghasts

>>96348757
IDK really needs a sick "Kingsguard of the Deep" or something. 7" move elite infantry so nobody has to look at a namarti ever again. Some Kinda bladeguard equivalent but heavier armored and 2 damage strikes with like really sick 2 handers. (Yes I miss Harganeth Executioners and they'd fit right in with the IDK aesthetic.) Make them 5 man squads who can take Greatswords or Harpoon crossbows. Elite 5 model infantry.

>>96348866
Zenith should get a full ass range. Phoenix guard (halberds), Tyrion+Ur Phoenix, Phoenixes return as monsters for us since Stormcucks took dragons. Also some kind of elite archer like Fire Maidens or w/e would rule. Fuck water temple, we'll get some shit mage, shit horse elemental, and an infantry nobody will use again.

How do I keep this asshole's giant, flimsy mace from bending? It already has a strained spot between his two hands.

>>96349120
"Elfs with big fucking swords" was a thing in all 3 elf races back in whfb (executioners, swordmasters, wildwood rangers) so thematically it would make sense for the idoneth to have them, being composed of a vatiety of elven souls.
Idoneth just need more Infantry man, it's the visual backbone of an army and idoneth have a grand total of two (2) options. Give them their heavy armoured elite swordguys. While we're at it, give them an elite ranged unit too. Maybe the shaerk riders with their net launchers, is maybe a bit more in theme than big crossbows.

>>96349189
>wild wood rangers
I feel like dancers are a better fit because rangers are just laughably forgettable even for wood elves.

>>96349189
Or some kind of bow whatever. But yeah, i was thinking make it a dual kit like kurnoth. Can build them as ranged or melee but make em 5 man squads. Fast, still papery, but big CHOPPAS would be sick. Give them some kind of blend of depthguard/executioners style they'd fit in so well.

Wasn't the point of making things simpler to make it easier to balance? What was the point if we got 77% win rate armies.

>>96349290
The AoR is completely fucking broken and everyone knew it coming out of the gate. The only problematic army here is DoK with that many games and that high. Cities is toeing the line too but i think they're fine overall once people start running to counter cannons. Idoneth going from bottom to mid is actually good. Did you even read your chart?

>>96349198
You know I've always thought depth guard looked kind of out of place. Essentially blood knights on foot in tbe pirate faction? What's that all about?

Either way yeah your idea is pretty much what I was thinking too. If we're wishlisting an idoneth second wave anyway here's what I would do (purely based on visuals, no gameplay considerations) :
>elite foot sword guys (5 man)
>elite foot ranged harpoons/nets (5)
>light cavalry (5), riding kelpies/seahorses/lesser deepmares/whatever.
>3 man bruiser unit, kroxigor-esque. Make them fused to crab creatures or something
>obligatory named character on giant crab or squid or something

>>96349314
Oh man you're cooking with the like Lobstermen shit.

>>96349290
>KHorne
>KHaine
>KHaradron
it's a khonspiracy

>>96349290
Gotta sell the Khorne shit before the refresh/squat at the end of 4e

>>96348277
I forgot about these dudes, they're cool. It's kinda nice having all the boxed games be old enough that you can be pleasantly surprised by stuff you forgot about

>>96348256
>I think ogres, cities, seraphon and ossiarchs received a spearhead out of the blue because they'll be the last releases
yeah this seems most likely

They should do bundle boxes of all the season 1 warcry warbands, would be cool for std players to kitbash into their marauders

Does anybody have the Spearhead rules for the previous KO Spearhead?

>>96349684
Should be on the Aos app

>>96349684
The skyboat must do a lot of the heavy lifting in that thing

Do khadrons have architecture that is comparable to something like armored core?

>>96349710
Kharadron architecture is cyberpunk dystopia for fat midgets

>>96349630
It would be cooler if they'd stop discontinuing kits that have only been out a couple years. Once the next round of warband boxes comes out all of these will probably be unavailable.

>>96349630
When are these coming out?

>>96349747
Those are already out

>>96349723
as someone who works in injection molding as a tool maker and our dies are nowhere near as detailed as GW, it's fucking insane they retire these molds just on a whim. I've seen the prices for our good US made molds and it's staggering seeing a mold cost 300k for like, a urinal cake.

>>96349783
Considering they've used some molds for decades, it's insane. Certainly those molds need to be remade or retooled at certain points, but look at something like the old Eldar models. That shit was older than a significant portion of players until the refresh. And GW just discontinues AOS models like it's MTG and they need to get the next wave of releases out the door for the new meta. Like damn, maybe I want to paint some shit for display and didn't get it the moment it came out.

>>96349780
right but i mean the new ones with the skeletons and new FEC ghouls.

>>96345024 (OP)
Soon

>>96349691
oh shit, I didn't even know there was an app

>>96349848
>maybe I want to paint some shit for display and didn't get it the moment it came out.
Everyday I regret not buying the fire war cry chaos dudes. That half samurai zweihander leader model was so sick but I couldn't justify the price.

>>96349312
>t. aos design team
why did you all stop doing the meta watches??

>>96349290
was thinking how much I hate how it seems like the end of 2e to now how much my healing has gone away for my skeleton guys and how it seems like everyone else can bring models back and they do a better job of it because their units don't have shit stats, and balance still looks like this?

Hope they wipe the slate clean on command abilities in 5e.It's insane that they're unrestricted (any unit can rally, your charge range is the full range, power through is your unit's full movement) and really kills any sense of faction identity.

>>96350097
I just bought the current Death warband bundle for the Crimson Court, and I'm buying the next one when it comes out for Sons of Velmorn. I never even knew they existed until fairly recently and was pissed when I learned the box was discontinued after only being available for something like 2 years. Thankfully I kinda like Nighthaunt and the executioner kit is cool. And the next one also has zombies.

What are some good uses for these guys? I already plan on making the cauldron basing material for a witch assuming I ever find anything suitable to use or convert for one and the little armor for a possessed armor minion. What did (you) use them for if you got this kit?

>>96349290
It seems to be mostly the Gorechosen carrying the win rate. How can one model be so impactful?

>>96350148
I feel bad I just got em on bases right now but using them as neat little basing materials sounds fun too. Little knight guy could be given a skull head an be a squire for an FEC, little fish man could be a fun kruleboyz buddy, same goes for cauldron being a replacement pot grot.

>>96350166
I was originally gonna just use the armor to practice painting armor before I started Space Marines, but I never did. Now I'm drifting more towards AOS just because of how much more interesting the models are want to do some fun stuff with them.

>>96350148
I think they make excellent objective markers or using them to mark once per game abilities is pretty useful

>>96350148
Kdm halloween Satan pinup recast would look stellar sitting on the cauldron

Is there any chance to just have a Sylvaneth army that's just a fuck ton of treelords, Drycha, and Alarielle?

>>96350633
pretty sure that was a winning list. Might wanna ditch the idea of Drycha though

>>96350649
Aw really? But Drycha's so god damn cool! Is she just not any good?

>>96349120
>Yes I miss Harganeth Executioners
They're still a thing? You having a stroke mate?

>>96351069
They're staring down the barrel of the squatgun

>>96351085
But you can't miss something that still exists retard.

>>96351086
I wasn't the anon who missed exes, I'm just pointing it out

>>96351091
Ah, >>96351086 Withdrawn.

>>96351101
All good. it happens

Anyone got a link to a mega or something filled with all the Warcry rules? I've only got a few bits and pieces of it.

>>96349312
where's that anon saying it wasn't a problem.

>>96350151
>How can one model be so impactful?
its not, its a whole separate faction worth of rules.

>>96350655
SoG Drycha is good, the normal one isn't. Its just difficult to not take Belthanos every list, but

>>96351069
They belong in DoK

>>96351484
If we make them sexy elf women then yes I can get behind that

>>96351139
Try this link, but I'm not sure if it's what you're looking for.

pdfcoffeecom slash warcry-core-book-pdf-freehtml

CHAMON

Hey guys, does anyone have the 3rd edition Seraphones PDF?

>>96351610
chamoy?

>>96351610
>why yes, my command corps is from vindicarum, how could you tell?

>>96345053
>skinks
surely they gotta replace these guys sooner rather than later, they're from 2003 lol. Second oldest kit in aos iirc, probably older than half the posters here. I guess they hold up surprisingly decent though.

>>96351680
>they hold up surprisingly decent though.
It kind helps that all the new skinks gw has made has helped accent them so that they don’t look too outdated.
Although I do wish they fully went out of there to overhaul them.

>>96347863
dawww doglad

>>96345724
You get wolf, that's it.

>>96351680
What's the oldest kit? Surely it's not the stabbas?

>>96351610
CAM ON!

>>96351723
Eshin rats

>>96351735
>There are people out there that have bought kits that are older than them and look like hot garbage, just because they are good in the game right now.
Grim

>>96351723
>>96351735
Eshin nightrunners yeah, about a year older

>>96351592
Hell yeah brother

>>96351723
>Surely it's not the stabbas?
eshin rats
then skinks
then dryads
then ogre gluttons, belchers, ironguts and gnoblars
then stabbas

>>96351680
>I guess they hold up surprisingly decent though.
They will hold up even better once gw replaces them with new skinks that have worse faces and all the same limits of the previous design

>>96351846
Stabbas are actually fine. When you're painting a hundred of them you want it simple

>>96351857
I'm not saying they aren't fine, I think they hold up much better than some later sculpts, I'm just saying they are in the list of old kits and gw might eventually replace them.

>>96351857
The only problem with stabbas is the way they hold their clubs, it really feels like they're holdings toys and not weapons. Same with shootas, most are fine but some hold both quivers and bows and it just looks stupid. This may just be autism on my part though.

>>96351897
You are not alone. New Stabbas/shootas should be released long time ago or at least togetherwith wolf gitz.

>>96348477
Alguien?

>>96351940
The underworlds guys are a great improvement while also not being overly detailed. The stabba/shoota base is perfect for what they are, just needs a bit of tuning in proportions and poses.

>>96351958
I think they sould make a number of them into mutant scuttlers
like one in 10, just for fun and to better fuse spiders into moon gobbos

>>96351772
Didn't they come out in the original Mordheim box? So 1999?

is it considered rude to take kroak to a pickup game?

we dont have a particular stigma against named characters, my opponent regularly takes arkhan and kurdoss, and i often take skragrott or yndrasta, but i recognize that kroak is potentially on another level. i havent actually played him in 4th, i've heard seraphon have been dialed back somewhat. i really love the model and would like to field it, but i also dont want to create a feelsbad in a fairly casual game.

>>96352010
Just try him out anyways and if he is feels ad just don't in future fames

Prolly some Necromunda crap, but maybe not.

>>96352028
>maggot
>blisters
nurgle ahoy!

>>96351977
Funnily enough yesterday I was daydreaming about a spiderfang underworlds warband and what it would like. I came up with 3 of these guys, 2 smaller spiders, and a medium spider with a chief on it.
>>96351984
I couldn't tell you honestly, I'm just going by what the spreadsheet tells me.
>>96352028
Could be nurgle, looks like it has some blisters and stuff. Necromunda is also a good guess though

>>96352028
nurgle kurnothi double feature?

>box titled Spitewood
>contents include two warbands
>neither warband comprises spites or woods
What a blunder.

>>96352058
the box is called spitewood, not the warbands
the spites in the woods are in the scenery, look closer

>>96352055
rumble in the gardens

>>96352055
Warcry 3e starter box

I have made my subassembly decision.

May god have mercy on my soul

>>96352109
I hope when you assemble it the parts don't fit by the millimeter thickness of primer

>>96352109
these guys arent that bad, even if you dont do sub assemblies

the boats on the other hand

>>96352115
That's a very legitimate fear, considering how the support struts for the endrins fit in.

I thought about sticking something in the wholes when I prime, but I know that whatever I stick in will leave residue and cause the problem I was trying to prevent

>>96352137
IPA on a q tip rubbed on the contact points to strip the primer

>>96352058
>gw launches underworlds
>box called shadespire
>both warbands include neither shades nor spires
What the fuck were they thinking...

>>96351977
No one wants this.

>>96352164
hey it's guy from ASSFAGGOTS

FUCK Azyrites

>>96352164
fucking absolute unit of a pauldron

>>96352178
>le chaos dindu nuffin...

>>96352120
oh yeah, I'm holding off on doing the Frigate as long as possible. And I want to see if there are base options more than stable than the GW flying stand and better looking than the Magnet Baron set up
>>96352162
I'll try that, thanks!

>>96352201
only other options i've seen besides magnet baron is to use some kind of tactical rock or tree terrain to brace it.

other more....creative solutions do exist, but you'd probably have to print them

>>96352010
My rule is if a model is 40% or more of your list I probably wouldn't bring it to a pickup game unless I cleared it. They're usually easy targets but unchecked are complete noob stompers. Nagash, teclis, alarielle etc

>>96352201
the gunhaulers actually hold up pretty well on their little flight stands and the frigate is passable, probably wont break unless you really jossle it.

the only serious offender is the ironclad, which is like, damn, how did that get past quality control?

>>96352228
isn't that solved by 2 flight stands instead of one?

>>96352217
>magnet baron
People keep shilling this but those thick ass rods look like shit to me

>>96352217
yeah I need to finally break down and go ask in Reddit for advice on building a scenic base and how to attach it securely to the ship.

And maybe buy a Gunhauler to practice on before I mess with the Frigate

>>96352238
Yeah. The way I figure it, there are three things to think about wrt to flight stands; stability, transportability, and aesthetics.

Magnet Baron maxes out the stability and transportability but is a flat zero on aesthetics. I can understand why some people would go for that, but it's not for me

>>96352244
Maybe the scenery could be them docked at a port. You could use the 40k scaffolding as bits for it I reckon

>>96352257
Ooh, that's an idea...

>>96352261
Maybe you can also have an anchor tangled in rubble, smoke from explosions, dwarves disembarking, or them harpooning a monster

>>96352235
or two other random contact points such as an anchor and an arkanaut that has descended on a rope.

you can turn jewelry chains into solid structural shapes with glue.

>>96352293
the new stuff also uses ejected smoke as structural element, maybe one such thing 3d printed, can be used to hide a much sturdier flight stand

>>96352313
Could also get a coven throne or similar and use the nighthaunt to 'attack' the ship

>>96352326
I'm not the kind of person who particularly likes duel dioramas as gaming pieces, but you do you

never realised volturnos' shield is a little turtle. Cute.
>>96352357
it looks good but yeah not a fan of it in actual games either, takes me out of the immersion when fighting anyone but the other faction pictured. Also why I don't like minis where the character is in the middle of killing another enemy. Like some of the marines that have ork or tyranid bodies sculpted on the base. Luckily for me that's pretty rare in aos.

I miss Swifthawk Agents....went to get the mail and never returned...

>>96352398
Shouldn't be hard to convert the warscrolls to 4e, just remove any fun abilities and give them control 1-3

>>96351316
Belthanos is cooler and a bigger model, but Drycha was one of those AOS models that got me interested. Fuckin' ghost piloting a tree mech. Also ghost tits.

>>96352428
Sadly the old 2e app is completely broken, can't find anywhere else to get those old warscrolls

>>96352201
The magnet baron stands aren't really that bad, definitely the easiest option and super easy to ignore the extra bits on the model once it's all painted up.
Painting the ships, however, is actual torture. Subassemblies galore and constantly rubbing off paint on the parts you're holding the ship by, because there's no real good way to hold it.
I'm glad I'll never have to paint another frig or ironclad again. The gunhaulers weren't too bad though.

>>96352462
>Fuckin' ghost
I don't get why people think the green part of sylvaneth is ethereal.

It's physical, it's just green.

>>96352462
>tree mech
We can go further.

>>96352477
Always made more sense to me as a ghost, forest spirits and all that. I just imagined trees getting so fucking angry they explode out elf ghosts or souls inside the physical bits to murder people.

>>96352487
Drycha was never even an elf.

>>96352493
Well yeah I know that part, that's why I said forest spirits first. Also I might have gaslit myself on this because I painted her old OG metal model to have the kinda glowy etheral look to the softer bark and fooled myself.

>>96352475
Always a pleasure seeing these anon.
>>96352477
I genuinely had no idea, always figured they were ethereal.

By the way I'm pretty new to all this, what are the odds of idk getting a christmas box? Does having a release earlier in the year make them more or less likely to appear?

Man I can't wait for khorne to get nuked into hell because people think they should play this AoR.

>>96352462
still sucks we dont have a generic option

>>96352477
because their bodies, weapons, antlers and hair are all painted the same color pale color, that looks very similar to that of the Nighthaunt

>>96352602
what else are they supposed to play? The game literally has nothing else of interest

>>96352632
Nighthaunt are being slowly squatted, Sylvaneth are likely to adopt the ghost schtick

>>96352637
its only "interesting" because its overpowered.

>>96352651
I can't believe every army in AOS is being squatted

>>96352667
It makes sense as GW has told shareholders that TOW is their main fantasy game, AoS is in the Horus Heresy sphere

>>96352747
Oh hey anon it's been a few threads, how goes life?

>>96352747
>GW has told shareholders that TOW is their main fantasy game
I don't think that would please shareholders t b h.

>>96352757
in what position is horus heresy?

>>96352763
They don't go lower than 10th, so no idea.

>>96352779
so we can't be sure that they aren't just bundling sale data of hh with the one of 40k

>>96352786
...yes we can?

>>96352786
Yes we can be sure because it says Warhammer: 40,000.

>>96352543
The purpose of the Christmas Boxes is to boost movement on units that are clogging up inventory or are expected to be soon. Sometimes that means putting in a bunch of kits that are about to get replaced next year, sometimes that means adding in stuff from a faction that is selling well with a big centerpiece to make people ignore the filler all around it, sometimes it's a sort of Companion piece to a Spearhead/Star Collecting box that came out earlier in the year to help encourage people to jump up to bigger games now that they have finished their first box set. GW's methods and reasoning are not always consistent though so don't get too excited expecting like a box with the big Turtle in it to come out with a bunch of thralls and a wizard to fill out the box

>>96352846
I have a sinking feeling the AoS boxes will be themed around Armies of Renown this time around. Last years 40k boxes all had big named characters in them, so I could see them continue the trend. It would also de-incentivize buying more than one box.

>>96352637
Why are you here faggot? The game is fine you revisionist 2e retards are so annoying

>>96352757
>comic book sales
God I hate retards sharing this

>>96352924
It's not perfect, but it's the closest thing to objective sales data we have access to.

>>96349783
I need to understand the logic in discontinuing Warcry kit production while still churning out fucking Plague Monks
>>96352169
I kind of want this. I don't want them to replace shootas/stabbas though.

>>96352798
how?

>>96352920
>my army d3 2+ mortals and 3+ to +1 hit just fine, game is great
>don't you 5/3/3/-1/2 agree???

Guys why is the Nighthaunt book so shit, the FEC book cool, and the BoK book shit except for one AoR?
What the fuck is happening

>>96353040
Because FEC is cool, and Nighthaunt book was probably produced early on when NH were really annoying and rolling tournaments so everyone bitched and now like a year later we have to suffer for it.

>>96352916
I think this anon has the shake of it.
GW does not want you to buy more than one of any of their 'discount' boxes and probably get pissed if you can make a playable army out of multiple ones.

>>96352428
Kek

>>96353040
There are two rules writers guarding two doors behind which each is a new battle tome for your faction. One can only write good battle tomes. One can only write bad battle tomes. You can only ask one of them a single question.

>>96352137
Mask the contact points in blu tac or other poster putty

>>96352846
>>96352916
Mhm, if we go the army of renown route that would probably mean a box centered around the eidolon summon one. Thanks for the info, I'll keep my fingers crossed.
>>96352952
True, plus it makes the doomposters seethe

I'm surprised they haven't updated this yet.

>>96353012
Sure post models and game then or fuck off

>>96353147
why?

>>96353147
Should I pick this guy up? I feel like I got too many SBGL already, does the kit come with decent bits at least?

>>96353178
You can see the sprue on the web store to check for yourself
>does the kit come with decent bits at least?
It comes with a two headed rat

>>96353191
Honestly it's not cool enough to justify it over any of the other shit I'm aiming for.

>>96353147
I've always wanted to get that necromancer and convert him into a packmaster/master moulder

>>96353449
This has been my go-to for packmaster or big moulder guy conversions. Just change the head and bam you got a fatass skaven.

>>96352621
I can't imagine it would be as elaborate but yeah true.

>>96353563
Noted
I need a handful of packmasters for TOW and getting the actual models seems unfeasible now

>lgs miraculously still has some start collecting boxes in the back
Damn for once it's nice to live in an area dominated by card games where noone plays miniature games.

>>96353620
I love 'em. My kitbashes are a little jag and chunky but I do love these fuckin' guys. Wound up havinf to sell my skaven but kept a few heroes for posterity.

>>96353040
I mean we'll never know for sure but if Matt wrote the FEC tome it makes sense it's more thoughtful since it's apparently his faction of choice. I don't believe that it's busted but its easy to see it had a lot of effort put into it.

For the nighthaunt tome being ass, it's like the biggest combination of nerfing for earlier in the edition plus the writer way overvaluing the things that he gave in return. I've definitely met more than enough people that cream themselves over a unit having crit mortals or ethereal, without really understanding how stats work. Or he might just hate NH. Based on the tomes he handles (which is easy to 3+ tell), he's just ignorant.

>>96353163
>he obviously must not play this game or want it to do bad if he doesn't loveeeeeeeeeee these stripped-down faction rules and copy pasted mega dicey uninspired rules

>>96353660
Still waiting

Sooo, Sylvaneths are coming

>>96353660
NH will probably be powerful its just not a good book.

>>96353678
Nah those are for wanderfurs, not sylvaneth.

>>96353698
I feel like the same units that were necessary before are still necessary now. They just are sticky and less murdery. Also I'm going to keep shitting on GW until they let control score drop to 0.

>>96353678
The bug feels like something for Nurgle or Necromunda given the pustules

>>96353678
>>96353801
Yeah that's what I was thinking too, bit too creepy crawly for sylvaneth. It's probably necromunda or nurg
... holy shit it's gloomspite gitz with a steel chair

If they make pestigors into bug people I'm buying in

>>96353756
>I feel like the same units that were necessary before are still necessary now.
What does that mean, we don't have that many units to begin with, if anything also less of them look viable than the index unless the points are very different. Its going to be a lot 20x Harridan blocks.

>>96353830
Insectoid goatmen, very very cool.

Any hopes for gamescom today? :,)

>>96353867
It means spam sword ghosts or Harridans and hexwraiths.

>>96353882
well that's all we got, hexwraiths are probably on the shelf.

>>96345024 (OP)
>TQ
It's okay. Putting in the Royal Beastflayers feels like a desperate move to pad out the box because they couldn't think of anything else.
The original FEC Spearhead is still a great deal. I base this purely on how cool all the minis look together.
That said I'll likely get the new Spearhead sooner or later.

>>96353905
If only there was another cavalry unit Nighthaunt had that GW could buff and maybe make more viable...

>>96353881
Why should we expect something in gamescom?

>>96353881
a new fantasy tabletop wargame with fun rules would be cool

>>96353917
dreadblades being expensive point grabbers is criminal

>>96353917
I dunno that's just not how they think, other games I follow an army has glaring hole in the range they quickly make a unit to fill it. GW just doesn't give a shit about stuff like that, fyreslayers for instance have been the same for 10 years.

>>96353914
>Putting in the Royal Beastflayers feels like a desperate move
Anon like almost all of the new spearheads include a Warcry Band or an UW band, they're obviously doing it on purpose generally.

>>96353914
To be fair the old spearhead has all of the usuable new minis, so the only choice for them was to recycle a warcry warband, which they love doing anyway. Surprised they didn't put the pyregheists in the nighthaunt one honestly

>>96353952
I don't understand why they can't just give them a reason to exist. Just make them a solid elite cavalry with heavy saves and more survivable. They don't need to be super murdery, just sticky and debuffy.

>>96353969
I know but I was answering the thread question. Speaking of I might get the CoS Spearhead solely for the Wildercorps Hunters. Everything else would be a bonus.

>>96353987
>Surprised they didn't put the pyregheists in the nighthaunt one honestly
They would have been a better choice than the Harridans, for sure.

>>96353628
Usually that's nice but were you really gaining much in this case?

>>96354088
Eh, it pairs reasonably well with the new Spearhead. You get two things that aren't included and you can never have two many eels.

>>96354099
Fair enough. Doot on.

>>96353930
Lol

>>96354088
About 40% off compared to gw prices, also a smaller commitment compared to a spearhead

My trigger fingers are itchy about buy CoS or FEC, but i really really really want to buy Helsmiths of Hashut. I dont know what to do haha

>>96354315
FEC. Don't ask questions, just buy Ushorann.

>>96353914
Oh yeah, that reminds me, do the beastflayers have a warscroll in the new fec battletome?

>>96354395
I think so

>honest wargamers nighthaunt review
>starts with "these designers dont know what they're doing. dont play this army"

grim. even the youtube shill cheersquad is having a hard time spinning this editions battletomes.

>>96354395
yes

>>96354420
he's always criticized stuff he doesn't like.

>>96354410
>>96354472
cheers

>>96354420
See
>>96354478
Rob is strange. I like someone breaking the BTs early (fuck the influencers and their NDAs) but he is such an opinionated fuck off (especially on shit he doesn't understand) it just runs the wrong way. Also he is apparently sitting on the chorf rulebook and won't spoil it yet

>>96354536
maybe revealing it would compromise the source based on the timing? he doesnt usually withhold leaks

>>96354536
Fuck really, the battletome already? We need somebody on here to start a sloptuber channel so gw will send them free shit and we get an early peek.

>>96354579
Remember in 3rd when we got the entire StD book months before they even announced it?
>>96354577
Lmao at that bullshit GW is too stupid to do the back shit to lock down leaks; Valrak has been getting shit for years and they can't stop him. It's not like they have the fags name printed and embossed on every page of the army book
GW sends army boxes to their gud bois months before they are released (these aren't always the same people as the cock slobbering influencers).

>>96354315
HoH because chorfs funny

>>96354711
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>>96349290
Is there something fundamentally wrong with the gloomspite book? Or does that army just attract shit players? I'm still fairly new. And I'm struggling most games.i have like a sub 30% win rate.

>>>96354579
people have the box now yeah, will probably release sometime in september

i got a peak at some of the rules, tome revolves around building up demon points that work like daughters of khaine army where the amount on a unit determines how strong the buff is, otherwise lots of usual 4e slop style rules and not much list building options other than run what has the best stat line.

>>96352238
Their stuff is ugly as fuck and over priced.
You can buy the same shit on amazon for a fraction of the price.
It would still be ugly though.