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Anonymous No.96366549 [Report] >>96366609 >>96366660 >>96366739 >>96367110 >>96367218 >>96367247 >>96367391 >>96370584 >>96370594 >>96372565 >>96372569 >>96372940 >>96373307 >>96373659 >>96373679 >>96375005 >>96375392 >>96375420 >>96378628 >>96381555 >>96384826 >>96397177 >>96401787 >>96402935 >>96413906
Lasgun
Do you prefer lasgun firing beams or blaster-like projectiles?
Anonymous No.96366609 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
beams, leave the tracers for crummy heretical autoguns.
Anonymous No.96366610 [Report]
The beams
they do nothing
Anonymous No.96366660 [Report] >>96366688 >>96367025 >>96372533 >>96373154 >>96373679 >>96386437
>>96366549 (OP)
Blaster-like projectiles because I don't understand how a relatively low power weapon like a lasgun could be effective by using a continuous beam. Do you have to hold it in place on the target to gradually warm them up? This doesn't apply to powerful or relic beam weapons that could cut a target in half just by passing over them.
Anonymous No.96366688 [Report] >>96372618 >>96406424
>>96366660
The beam is usually depicted as non-continuous. There is even multibarreled gun that rapidly shoots a lot of non-continous beams (multi-laser)
Anonymous No.96366739 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
Beams. It's supposed to be a lightspeed weapon.
Anonymous No.96367025 [Report] >>96384410
>>96366660
I mean holding your hand under a big magnifying glass should highlight the abilities of a low strength continuous hot spot.
Anonymous No.96367110 [Report] >>96367218 >>96367312
>>96366549 (OP)
>they've turned lasguns from a distinct visual unlike any other setting... into blasters
first they did it to Star Trek, now 40k, and it ruins both
Anonymous No.96367218 [Report] >>96367241 >>96409781
>>96366549 (OP)
>>96367110
Lasguns are blasters. The discharge is meant to vaporize instantly when it hits the target, not cook it. It's always been called a lasBLAST.
I'm fine with beam though since it's a distinctive visual cue.
Anonymous No.96367241 [Report] >>96378688 >>96401962
>>96367218
>Lasguns are blasters.
No. Blasters fire ionized gas (which you may know by the more popular term for it, plasma). Lasguns fire lasers.
>It's always been called a lasBLAST.
Lasbolt. Or just laser.
>I'm fine with beam though since it's a distinctive visual cue.
The beam is also what such a weapon would actually look like in reality, because, you know, it travels at the speed of light? We know they only 'fire' for a fraction of a second, however, because it travels so quickly the human eye would register it as a continuous beam from the barrel of the lasgun to the target.
Anonymous No.96367247 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
top would make more sense
but bottom looks way more cool
Anonymous No.96367312 [Report]
>>96367110
>>they've turned lasguns from a distinct visual unlike any other setting... into blasters
Most of the old art represents them yellow and without being a single beam, the only exception I can currently think of is that art where a guardsmen is shooting a Carnifex
Anonymous No.96367391 [Report] >>96367501 >>96370620
>>96366549 (OP)
Most 40K books describe lasguns in a nearly consistent, much better way than the games, with probably the best portrayal being in the gaunts ghosts novels.

I believe in these the beam is described as continuous and pretty bright/solid looking. I imagine it pure white, but thats just me. The sound of a lasgun is a sharp crack, substantial and satisfying but in a way underwhelming and not quite what you expect, a description which echoes the quality of real gunfire, though las fire is rarely described as particularly loud like real gunfire is. So I think of it as something more sharp, brittle, and cracking than real gunfire, a breaking sort of slapping sound, maybe not so loud, but in quality sharing that vaguely "underwhelming" quality of overheard gunfire.

The more distinctive characteristic is that two different things can happen when it hits a target, that I divide into the categories of a pierce or a splash, or sometimes a more complicated combination of the two.

Sometimes a las round will burn a narrow hole clear through a target, like a clean bullet hole but burned, carrying on the hit things behind it. Or more rarely burrow like this for a while but not exit, but you're still dealing with the same kind of bullet-like circumference burned channel

Often, however, if they lack the power to slice clean through something, you'll get a splash where the end of the white span that forms the round explodes in a sizeable, roundish flash, blasting a crater out of the target, whether a crater of flesh, a big gouge out of a wall, whatever. If the round for whatever reason does not slice straight through, the energy usually dissipates outwards in a way that can be far more damaging, still having a burning effect on the whole impacted area. This also allows them to blow off limbs.

Las rounds can also ricochet, often lose some energy in doing so in the form of a partial splash at the point of initial impact, but will carry on and behave as normal afterwards
Anonymous No.96367501 [Report] >>96368741
>>96367391
>described as continuous
Do you mean continous as in lasting/being fired for some prolonged time or just straight uninterrupted beam?
I'm ESL
Anonymous No.96368741 [Report] >>96368811 >>96368834
>>96367501
I imagine it as a straight uninterrupted beam yes. I think its there for long enough to briefly see it, but not so long that its like a ghostbusters beam you can just move around. Its fast enough that its basically like firing a bullet, except the whole distance the bullet travels is all solid bright light. I don't imagine you see the beam travel. It seems to pretty much just appear along the whole distance, and lasts a short but visible amount of time.
Anonymous No.96368811 [Report] >>96402790
>>96368741
I should say I sometimes imagine exceptions to this. Las cannon fire for example is sometimes described as "slicing" who marines in two in such a way that it seems plausible the been is sustained for slightly longer. Just a little, but enough for it to "cut" across something just a little if it doesn't splash. Or maybe the fact that lascannons are often mounted on turrets that don't have to worry about recoil allows them to traverse while firing in a way that creates a lateral, cutting effect while the beam is still only there momentarily.

That's another thing. Las beams are almost consistently, not 100 percent of the time but I'd say by far most of the time, described as having recoil. My headcanon here is they are not actually lasers. They're some kind of future energy weapon with both heat and kinetic properties(so there's an equal and opposite force backwards) but they aren't lasers, its just lasers were so much so the classic weapon in old science fiction that when ancient humanity invented practical, mass produced energy weapons of any kind they called them lasers and it stuck.
Anonymous No.96368834 [Report]
>>96368741
Anyone off-axis to the beam would see very little. But there would be an audible thunder-like sound from how the beam ionizes the air, and the air around the beam's path would also have optical effects similar to a mirage due to heating relative to the air around it.
Anonymous No.96370584 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
The top looks better, that's all that counts.
Anonymous No.96370594 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
Beams because that's what I saw in DoW.
Anonymous No.96370599 [Report]
Wouldnt everyone be blind?
Anonymous No.96370620 [Report] >>96372365
>>96367391
I agree based on what I've read as well. The beam is cool.

Iirc, the color is mostly dependent on the forge that makes them.
Anonymous No.96372365 [Report]
>>96370620
>Iirc, the color is mostly dependent on the forge that makes them.
All official artwork I ever saw depicted lasguns firing pure white beams or bolts, with only the edges being a bit yellow-ish, sort of like a muzzle flash
Anonymous No.96372533 [Report] >>96372618
Lascannons always leave beams, so lasguns should too for tech consistency

>>96366660
Ideally the beam should only be visible for a split fraction of a second
Its still something erupting from the weapon and traveling through the air, its just light speed
Anonymous No.96372565 [Report] >>96372704
>>96366549 (OP)
They're laser guns, not Star Wars blasters. The guns in the new Dune movies are pretty much exactly what I imagined a lasgun report to be like: a sharp crack and a split second beam.
Minus the obvious power differences of course
Anonymous No.96372569 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Sa8D8nF6w
Anonymous No.96372618 [Report]
>>96366688
>>96372533
I think a beam that lasts for a split second is cool, but my criticism is that I think it shouldn't be light speed (even though that makes 0 sense in physics) just because being able to see the beam travel across long distances is cool.
Anonymous No.96372704 [Report]
>>96372565
Sadly everyone who ever has to put a sound effect to lasguns seems to adhere to the flashlight memez and has them sound like wet farts
Anonymous No.96372940 [Report] >>96373267
>>96366549 (OP)
blasts that get progressively longer the bigger and more powerful the laser weapon is, with hellguns and lascannons being practically a beam at most distances
Anonymous No.96373154 [Report] >>96373289 >>96378424
>>96366660
As retarded as the Mechanicus tends to be, even I would imagine they would understand the dangers of a continuous beam for hand portable weapon like the lasgun not only wasting potential shots you could have but also overtaxing the powersupply.

Cutting off the beam after the initial trigger pull prevents you from wasting power and, if you needed a more powerful beam, you have hellguns for that.
Anonymous No.96373267 [Report]
>>96372940
You can't see the length of something travelling at the speed of light across the battlefield.
If the exposition to the laser is supposed to last for any meaningful amount of time it would be perceived as a beam. It could be an interrupted flashing beam if you prefer that, but it would still be a beam.
Anonymous No.96373289 [Report] >>96374519 >>96401844
>>96373154
Point of order, Hellguns aren't more powerful beams, they're just more beams, full stop. Incredibly rapid spam of same-power beams. Literal pulse lasers. That's how they chew through armor, sheer ablation.
But yeah, lasweapons are beams, because blasters are fucking stupid and this isn't star wars.
Anonymous No.96373307 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
usually things like this are a matter of opinion but man, beam makes much more sense and is so much more cooler than projectile, how can you even choose projectiles?, makes no sense and is way more lame.
Anonymous No.96373632 [Report]
Beams are the objectively correct answer.
Anonymous No.96373659 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
100% beams, if you want the guard to use projectile-like weapons, just give them regular ballistic ones, some regiments use that as well
Anonymous No.96373679 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
Beam but not in a visible wavelength
>>96366660
it's not continuous, it's pulsed beam to help with ablation, the pulse frequency is high enough it looks the same to a human eye. Discrete blasts moving slow enough to be visible are nonsense.
Anonymous No.96373703 [Report] >>96373726 >>96384850
40kucks trying to justify anything in this setting in terms of real life function is always so cute.
Anonymous No.96373726 [Report]
>>96373703
40k can be sensible or even scientific about most aspects of the setting. It often attempts to in books and RPG sourcebooks and sometimes even does a pretty decent job at it.
The thing is, it will throw all such attempts out the window the second they stand in the way of rule of cool
Anonymous No.96374519 [Report] >>96374591 >>96374970 >>96375023
>>96373289
False. A hellgun (proper name: hotshot lasgun) is just a lasgun with a hot shot charge pack installed. It trades number of shots per charge pack for raw power of the beam, and usually burns out low quality lasguns from how much more power is being pushed through the focusing lens.
What you're thinking of is the hotshot volley gun, which is the LMG version of the hotshot lasgun and puts thirty thousand high-intensity laser beams downrange in under a minute.
Anonymous No.96374591 [Report]
>>96374519
Your newfangled hotshot guns are NOT my good and righteous Hellguns.
Anonymous No.96374970 [Report] >>96375012
>>96374519
>is just a lasgun with a hot shot charge pack installed
And a different barrel
Anonymous No.96375005 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
As a child I preferred blaster bolts.

Then I grew up and realised beams are the superior taste
Anonymous No.96375012 [Report] >>96375023
>>96374970
>And a different barrel
Nope, that's optional. You can put hotshot chargepacks in any lasgun and it's now a hotshot lasgun, it just increases the risk of malfunctions and damage if it's a common quality lasgun like what average guard troopers are issued. The lasguns issued to Scions are more advanced designs, with reinforced barrels and stronger focusing crystals rated for the power output of a hotshot pack so the odds of malfunction are far lower for them.
Anonymous No.96375023 [Report] >>96381511
>>96374519
>proper name: hotshot lasgun
Go away James, I still haven't forgiven you for turning my Stormtroopers into Adjective Nounzions

>>96375012
>The lasguns issued to Scions are more advanced designs, with reinforced barrels and stronger focusing crystals rated for the power output of a hotshot pack so the odds of malfunction are far lower for them.
Yes anon, that is what a hellgun is.
Anonymous No.96375279 [Report]
I'm a plasma kinda guy
Anonymous No.96375392 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
Blasterlike. Firing a fucking lightsaber is a recipe for disaster
Anonymous No.96375420 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
Beams are way cooler. Turning lasers into bolts is max gay.
Anonymous No.96378424 [Report]
>>96373154
People are mistaking "continuous beam" as in holding down the trigger and seeing a constant emission that you can wave around or whatever, and "continuous beam" as in a single trigger pull resulting in a pulse of laser fire that briefly *appears* to be a single unbroken line because of how fast light moves, as opposed to a Star Wars blaster bolt which is a pulse of energy that visibly travels along a trajectory. The latter is how a lasgun works, you pull the trigger and you fire one pulse, which you see as a brief line.
Anonymous No.96378628 [Report] >>96380853
>>96366549 (OP)
Lol. Less than a day, and there more bad news about this slop of a game.
Will get jumping terminators too? Pretty please?
Anonymous No.96378688 [Report] >>96381493
>>96367241
>The beam is also what such a weapon would actually look like in reality, because, you know, it travels at the speed of light? We know they only 'fire' for a fraction of a second, however, because it travels so quickly the human eye would register it as a continuous beam from the barrel of the lasgun to the target.

If it's firing a laser? Yes. If it's firing plasma? It would look more like a large projectile.
Anonymous No.96380853 [Report]
>>96378628
You know that this "news" are 9 months old, right?
Anonymous No.96381466 [Report] >>96381505 >>96384318
>beam isn't green (wavelength choice issue)
>beam is too fat (coherency issue)
>guardsmen don't have safety glasses (lasers would blind everyone near them as they fired)
>beam doesn't flicker (not-pulsed)

Lasguns might as well be blasters so make them blasters. It's epic powermetal fantasy in space right? Who cares if the laser gun isn't a laser?
Anonymous No.96381493 [Report]
>>96378688
I think you misunderstood something in my post anon. I was describing what lasguns look like, not blasters.
Anonymous No.96381505 [Report] >>96381567
>>96381466
>guardsmen don't have safety glasses (lasers would blind everyone near them as they fired)
that really isn't how that works anon, the safety glasses are only for the unexpected risk that for whatever reason the laser beam in a lab experiment gets reflected into someone's eyes.
Anonymous No.96381511 [Report]
>>96375023
>Adjective Nounzions
kek good one.
Anonymous No.96381555 [Report] >>96385271 >>96394028
>>96366549 (OP)
No beam or bolt, just muzzle flash.
Anonymous No.96381567 [Report] >>96381596 >>96381611
>>96381505
Assuming earth-like atmosphere (I mean, guardsmen are breathing it just fine so seems reasonable) anyone within 5km of the laser would be blinded by even fractional reflections. You're rolling the dice every time someone pulls the trigger near you. Even reflection off moisture in the atmosphere itself is sufficiently damaging with powerful enough lasers. Considering how many guardsmen are shooting lasers, yeah, laser blindness would be common.
Anonymous No.96381596 [Report]
>>96381567
Oh yeah, and if you don't believe me check IEC 60825-1. Lasguns would need to be Class 4, and sure enough the verdict is that
>a class 4 laser can burn the skin, or cause devastating and permanent eye damage as a result of direct, diffuse or indirect beam viewing
So there you go!
Anonymous No.96381611 [Report] >>96381633 >>96384384
>>96381567
If you want to talk about real world physics at the level of beam intensity we're talking, no eye protection in general would ever be enough to shield the eyes from the fractional reflections of even a single lasgun firing. That is, unless the beam itself is mostly composed of invisible frequencies of light, and the red (or green or blue or whatever color) laser produced by the lasgun is actually just an incidental aura projected from the emitter to aid troops in putting shots on target. Like a tracer, but for laser guns.
Anonymous No.96381633 [Report] >>96383124 >>96383180
>>96381611
Yeah that's what I'm saying! They don't act like real lasers at all, so saying "they should be beams like real lasers" is a silly argument. They are magical soft sci-fi guns, not lasers. But I like your solution, lasguns being IR lasers with low-power visible light lasers in the 500nm range for targeting would be a cool aesthetic. But probably not something suitable for 40K.
Anonymous No.96383124 [Report]
>>96381633
Well they're still called lasers in many 40k sources and having beam is closer to actual lasers than having some projectile, so imo "um they should be beams like real lasers" still has some relevancy. And imo it's better than "um thing called laser and behaving sort of like laser but not entirely are not actually a laser"
Anonymous No.96383180 [Report] >>96383205 >>96383385
>>96381633
>They are magical soft sci-fi guns, not lasers
If this is soft sci-fi it's entirely ok to accept that thing called laser but not acting 100% like real life laser IS a laser
Anonymous No.96383205 [Report]
>>96383180
Especially if it has a beam
Anonymous No.96383385 [Report]
>>96383180
I don't think they act like a laser at all though. Calling them "las" could be a total misnomer. Out of universe because some nerd thought it sounded cool to have laser guns but his knowledge of DEW began and ended with Star Wars, in universe because Las Herrington was the inventor of the Las Gun. Or whatever.

I understand your point of view, I just think picking and choosing which laser-isms it should have is pointless. Continuous beam-like blasters would have a unique and impressive aesthetic, so if I was going to argue for that look I'd argue specifically on those grounds (novelty and spectacle), not "well they are called LASER guns after all guys".

But hey! That's just my opinion.
Anonymous No.96384318 [Report] >>96385526 >>96401991
>>96381466
>guardsmen don't have safety glasses (lasers would blind everyone near them as they fired)
Ever notice how all the old guardsmen have visors? Even the officers who don't have helmets.
Anonymous No.96384384 [Report]
>>96381611
My interpretation was actually similar to this. The laser itself is invisible and the red flicker you see is just the superheated air the laser passed through. Essentially for 1/10 of a second there is a connected beam between the end of the barrel and the target. The air is ionized and superheated in that same 1/10 of a second. A lasgun wouldn't leave trails in the void of space. Slight coloration changes would be from different gas combinations in the atmosphere.
Anonymous No.96384410 [Report]
>>96367025
The sun isn't low strength, big magnifying glasses can melt rock
Anonymous No.96384826 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
Laser beams, it's in the name! Also have them function like lasers, ergo zero recoil.
Anonymous No.96384850 [Report]
>>96373703
Yeah it's kinda dumb. If you want a Beam in 40k, pick a Volkite.
Anonymous No.96385271 [Report] >>96385336 >>96395368
>>96381555
So, the soldiers are actually unarmed, issued blank-firing guns to make them feel better, while all the actual kills are inflicted by artillery of in melee combat?
Anonymous No.96385336 [Report] >>96386031
>>96385271
No visible beam or bolt, just muzzle flash and impact effect.
Anonymous No.96385526 [Report]
>>96384318
I didn't ever notice that no, that is a cool detail. Shame it doesn't seem to be a contemporary thing.
Anonymous No.96386031 [Report]
>>96385336
>i want hitscan
lol
Anonymous No.96386437 [Report]
>>96366660
The laser would have nanosecond pulses for maximum damage
Anonymous No.96394028 [Report] >>96394037
>>96381555
The middle image is the only one where the lasgun looks like it's actually flaring out some kind of light. Otherwise, all of these look like normal muzzle flashes for some kind of chemical projectile weapon. I always assumed, especially for the Guard paintings, that the lasgun being depicted as if it were just an autogun was artistic license because a bright red or blue flash wouldn't suit the painting. THe idea that lasguns were actually firing corn-yellow glowsticks is fucking retarded. What's next? They're going to have characters dodging around these long, slow rods of light in some CG animation so that they can play around with contrast and reflections for a memeable moment?

Like here; the heavy bolter and the lascannon look exactly the same, and that's because having one huge flash of bright cyan blue would've ruined the composition of the painting. But are you seriously going to say that a heavy bolter and lascannon are supposed to be indistinguishable except for the bolter's bolt being a little shorter than a lascannon's bolt? And, I guess, leaving a little trail of smoke behind it?
Anonymous No.96394037 [Report] >>96394140 >>96394143 >>96401907
>>96394028
Picked the wrong image there. But at least in that one, the lascannon on the Russ is shooting a continuous beam.
Anonymous No.96394140 [Report]
>>96394037
And here you can see a Titan using a Turbolaser Destructor, identifiable by its yellow muzzle flash.
Anonymous No.96394143 [Report] >>96394149
>>96394037
And here you can see a Titan using a Turbolaser Destructor, identifiable by its yellow beam.
Anonymous No.96394149 [Report] >>96394151
>>96394143
And here you can see a couple of different laser bolts being used by both Space Marines and the traitor hordes.
Anonymous No.96394151 [Report]
>>96394149
And here you see a Rogue Trader cruiser using its lances on a Tau ship.
Anonymous No.96395368 [Report]
>>96385271
>So, the soldiers are actually unarmed, issued blank-firing guns to make them feel better, while all the actual kills are inflicted by artillery of in melee combat?
It honestly sometimes feels like this with imperial guard.
Anonymous No.96397177 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
So all those Sentinels in the trailer were not actually equipped with autocannons. They were firing lascannons that now look like rapid-firing autocannons. That's so dumb.

I think the horrible muzzle flash is part of the problem. Even if the lasgun is firing bolts of light, why would the flare look like something being expelled through a muzzle brake? It makes them look like they're firing tracer rounds and it's really stupid, even if the devs try and defend it by saying normal bullets are very small and stubber tracers or bolter rounds have different lengths. The tracer and bolter rounds still have a similar color.
Anonymous No.96401787 [Report] >>96402140 >>96402485 >>96407284
>>96366549 (OP)
Going to be a centrist faggot and I say I like both, really depends on the medium they're being portrayed in. For something like the RTS games I think a metric shitton of lines from lasguns create an incredibly cool visual. Whilst in other mediums like a first person shooter or other scenario where you're focused on a singular/lower number of lasgun wielders it fits more to do the blaster like projectiles.

The fun part about warhammer in this case though is that both can theoretically exist, and it just depends on which forgeworld you get your lasguns from. Could even mix the two together and say the beam and bolt lasguns do different things.
Anonymous No.96401844 [Report]
>>96373289
They also just dump more power in
All lasguns have variable power settings so you can expend the battery pack at slower rates its just not useful to be on anything less than full blast for most targets. A hotshot pack is just a gigantic battery pack that forces though even more power through.
Anonymous No.96401907 [Report] >>96407241
>>96394037
Not sure if that's the image you were complaining about in your first post but the lascannon is clearly projecting a yellow beam there.
Anonymous No.96401962 [Report] >>96402140
>>96367241
>Lasbolt. Or just laser.
A bolt is a bolt, not a beam. Stupid bitch!
Anonymous No.96401991 [Report]
>>96384318
You can literally see them shooting white bolts in this pictroon
Anonymous No.96402140 [Report] >>96407284
>>96401787
The convention in video games seems to have settled on DoW-style red (or reddish) laser beams, all the vaguely recent games I can think of off the top of my head present them that way even in FPS titles.

>>96401962
I suggest you search 'lightning bolt' to see where the term is coming from.
Anonymous No.96402485 [Report]
>>96401787
Eh, not really, Darktide has beam-like lasguns and they feel amazing to shoot.
Besides, ballistic ammo weapons also exist in 40k and are in fact commonly used by many factions including the guard, so just give your guys one of those if you want projectiles which visibly fly through the air
Anonymous No.96402790 [Report] >>96402818
>>96368811
>Las beams are almost consistently, not 100 percent of the time but I'd say by far most of the time, described as having recoil. My headcanon here is they are not actually lasers.
We've been debating this on 4chan for 20 years, but one guy in one of these threads said he worked with high-powered lasers for a living and that those machines did indeed kick when the laser started.
Anonymous No.96402818 [Report] >>96402822 >>96402917
>>96402790
Where the hell would that come from though? I'm far from being a physician, but from my understanding and research of it, lasers could technically have *some* recoil since their rays do have momentum, but it would be minuscule enough to be basically unnoticable to the shooter.
The kick would have to come from some other processes going on within the gun. Or maybe even in case of that anon it was more of a psychological, placebo like thing rather than a genuine phenomenon
Anonymous No.96402822 [Report]
>>96402818
Shit, physicist, not physician, lmao
Anonymous No.96402917 [Report]
>>96402818
No idea.
Anonymous No.96402935 [Report]
>>96366549 (OP)
how do you prefer managing resources? Shoot units or use charges?
Anonymous No.96406424 [Report]
>>96366688
This.
Anonymous No.96407241 [Report] >>96409044
>>96401907
Only if the image extends further out to the right. You can easily, if this is entire image, assume that it's shooting off a projectile and what we're seeing is the trail of that projectile being cut off.

The bigger thing is that visually it's much more cohesive to have both weapons, and the Sentinel in the back, having flare that is the same color and is in line with the hue of the full painting. Contrast that with this image where the mix of colors makes it look messy.

But in a video game, and in a future live-action streaming adaptation, it would be horrible for player/viewer comprehension if all weapon types had projectiles and flares of the same color. It also makes 40k much less distinct as a franchise.
Anonymous No.96407284 [Report] >>96409044
>>96401787
>The fun part about warhammer in this case though is that both can theoretically exist, and it just depends on which forgeworld you get your lasguns from. Could even mix the two together and say the beam and bolt lasguns do different things.
They're not though. GW has officially settled the debate.

>Their depiction has been remarkably consistent: they fire discrete, pale white-yellow bolts, not visually dissimilar to the tracers of the hard-round guns they replaced. You can see that lasguns do have a type of muzzle flare – not a flame like gunpowder weapons, but more a flash of light.
>Of course, some variance in colour is explained by the energy interacting differently to different sorts of atmospheric conditions
They are expected to be firing solid rods of incandescent light, and any other depiction is just a consequence of weird planetary physics. But even those are actually the yellow light rod and would be yellow if you fire them in the vacuum of space or in a Terran atmosphere equivalent.

>>96402140
They were red in Fire Warrior, before Dawn of War. And in Final Liberation Lascannon bolts were blue. So at least since 1996 people did not conceive of lasweapons as literally firing flashlight beams.
Anonymous No.96409044 [Report] >>96418983
>>96407241
>You can easily, if this is entire image, assume that it's shooting off a projectile and what we're seeing is the trail of that projectile being cut off.
That would be quite a stretch of logic given that the artist hasn't painted any projectiles coming out of the actual projectile weapon front and centre of the image. The muzzle flash on the lascannon is also the kind of starburst shape that you get when looking directly at a very bright light as opposed to the more traditional 'diffused cloud of burning gas' coming off the heavy bolter.

>>96407284
Fire Warrior's lasguns were red but they fired like Star Wars blasters as opposed to DOW's lasers. Interestingly DOW also had blue lascannons, but only for the Space Marines for some reason.
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>>96367218
Then you want a very short beam. Like a flash of a beam and then the target explodes a little.
Anonymous No.96413211 [Report]
Beams should be thinner. A wire-like light of death that flickers at the edges of your vision is much more threatening imo. Applies to all sci-fi, not just 40K.
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>>96366549 (OP)
>Video game screenshot
Traditional games?
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>>96409044
If you look at Fire Warriors lasguns, they do have a bolt but they also have a laser-like trail. It ends up looking like a modulated pulse beam if you shoot in a straight line.