Thread 96367668

hey /tg/ i challenge you to give me a dark fantasy setting without these 3 tropes...

>rape
>racism
>slavery

is it too hard to give a setting that doesn't have this stuff? or barely even mentions it? you do know you don't need these things for a dark fantasy RIGHT?

If I could name even one, it would probably have torture in it.

>>96367668 (OP)
Dark fantasy is just fantasy that openly explores adult themes. What's the point if you specifically rule out all the horrible shit real people do to each other?

>>96367668 (OP)
Unfortunately I can't say no to even one of those with my dark fantasy homebrew ever since I added the eugenics rape camps

>>96367668 (OP)
Diablo 2?

>>96367668 (OP)
>you do know you don't need these things for a dark fantasy RIGHT?
Incorrect, you can't.

You can prove me wrong by giving me an example of a pre-existing dark fantasy setting without those 3 tropes.
If you can't, you'll have to accept that I was right.

>>96367668 (OP)
Labyrinth

I refuse the challenge as everyone should.
If you can't handle those topics then you are being, rightfully, gatekept out of the dark fantasy sub-genre. It does not need to, and should not, change to be approachable for you or anyone else who can't take it.

>>96367668 (OP)
If you have specific requirements just make your own.

>>96368375

stfu pedo

>>96367668 (OP)
I'm making a dark fantasy setting and for a moment I thought I'd passed the test. Then I realised there's technically racism by omission, as there's only whites in it.

>>96367668 (OP)
I don't want to help you, faggot redditor.

>>96368670
Doesn't sound like much of a dark fantasy then

>a small island nation based off of feudal Japan (Sengoku period)
>two clans duking it out to control this island; one of these clans are losing so badly that they learn a corrupting sword art in order to turn the tide of war.
>this winning clan is now ruled by a cult trying to bring about a terrible oni lord who wears the skins of his defeated foes.
>also, the Heavenly Kings that ruled this land are either dead or dying

>>96367668 (OP)
In what sense is rape a setting trope?

>>96367668 (OP)
Is there even a fantasy setting without racism?
>some races are evil
>some races are more intelligent, others are dumber but stronger

Thinly veiled mork borg thread

>>96371177
*buh dum tish*

>>96367668 (OP)
I can't name any but the decline and collapse - let's say for ecological reasons - of a wealthy enlightened empire would certainly fit the bill
People would eventually start rioting and killing each other without rape, racism or slavery ever having entered the arena in significant quantities

>>96367668 (OP)
Fromslop, like Sekiro's notSengokujapan and Lordran

>>96372830
From games have slavery THOUGH

>>96367668 (OP)

Easy. Material Scarcity.

A "dark fantasy" much like reality where either because of war, natural disaster, or unknowable otherworldly force, the basic materials (food, water, shelter or the material to build shelter) are severely depleted.

Base it on ancient Greek/Rome, where due to the constant conflicts and empire expansion, the land is salted and ruined.

Or come up with your own reasons.

Its hard to adventure when your moral choices are dictated by hunger, thirst, or exposure to the wilderness.

You must understand that these things happen. They happen in your optimistic, heroic campaign. They happen in your awful grimdark campaign. They happen in real life.

The only difference is how much light is shining on them. Very few people like vividly described slavery, rape, torture, racism and so on. The error lies on the vivid description, not the existence of tropes. Don't overdo it.

>You find the dark lord's chamber occupied by a harem of various women. They are chained, and look up to you for release. You set them free through the way you came in. One whispers you where the lord keeps his prized weapon.

Example of slavery and even implied rape that flies everywhere and can even be a stock scene in a comic or movie. It's all in the presentation.

>>96367668 (OP)
Kay.

>>96367668 (OP)
Go fuck off back to Bluesky, if you can't handle the mature topics go back to LOTR and Harry Buttfuckin' Potter.

>>96367668 (OP)
>or barely even mentions it?
Black Company. Slavery and racism aren't major factors. There's definitely a lot of rape, but the narrator (who is the annalist of Black Company) doesn't like to speak ill of his "kin", so it's hardly ever mentioned "on-screen".

>>96368082
Technically had demon slave-soldiers, captured souls and pow barbarians.

>>96372830
Lordran does have slavery, with some of the firekeepers being imprisoned and maimed, and the other games make it even more prominent.

>>96367668 (OP)
Maybe a genocidal scourge on the land... Like one based not on racism but xenophobia.

>>96367668 (OP)
Symbaroum

these stealth /pol/ threads aren't even stealthy

>>96367668 (OP)
>hey anons give me dark fantasy without the dark. bet you can't do it?!?!?!
If all dark fantasy settings include these things, it would seems that you do need them for dark fantasy.

>>96367668 (OP)
What game?

>>96367668 (OP)
I am going to make one all about these three just to fuck with you and hope it becomes big just to piss you off.

>>96367668 (OP)
My fantasy is too dark for you

>>96367668 (OP)
Dark Souls

>>96379929
Depends on your interpretation, otherwise there's suggestion of rape with Seethe and Gwynevere, the giants in Sen's Fortress were slaves, and racism... well that depends on what you count as racist, there's a lot of hate for specific groups and species.

>>96379891
Please, setting seller. I'm going to run a campaign. I need your darkest fantasy setting.

>>96379891
Then turn on the lights.

>>96380564
You cant handle my settings, theyre much too dark for you.

Duh?

The 70s and 80s had plenty of family friendly dark fantasy

It was more about mood and aesthetic

Slavery is an unusual topic because it's edgy in some contexts but not others. A story set in ancient Rome can feature slavery and slave characters without needing to make a big statement about it or focus on how bad it is. It's just a fact of life in Rome and readers generally accept that. Fictional settings with slavery on the other hand invariably make a big awkward deal out of it, either in an edgy way or in a heavy-handed moralizing way.

>>96367668 (OP)
nothing comes to mind, but they certainly aren't necessary. Just do Cosmic Horror with more fantastic elements and you get a more existential dark fantasy. You don't need stuff as personal and individual as rape, prejudice, and slavery to make a work dark and/or depressing

>>96367668 (OP)
The wheel of time
>but the seanchan collar women who can channel
They eventually learn to love it and get candy

>>96367668 (OP)
>no rape

boring, I need to make the BBEG suffer.

>>96367668 (OP)
It can still have poverty and genocide right?

>>96367668 (OP)
>dark fantasy setting
>look inside
>it is better than reality
No, I don't think you can. You certainly don't need to emphasize the racism, or slavery, or rape—but a setting /without/ them is trying to have your cake and eat it too; your world isn't dark if these basic cruelties don't exist in it.

>>96367668 (OP)
Demon lord of ultra murder unleashes his demons to indiscriminately murder the population. Also there are undead, bathing is witchcraft and there are a lot of taxes.
Done

>>96388999
Think knocking out racism kinda precludes genocide from the table. Unless you're presenting entirely accidental or equitable genocides.

>>96367668 (OP)
my slavcore setting avoids these things but instead has
>sexual harassment
>islamophobia
>serfdom

>>96400874
They asked for dark fantasy, not heroic.

Can't be done.