Thread 96375541

New CMON profit warning says losses could reach $8m for first half of 2025 – almost three times its overall profit from the last ten years.

https://archive.is/5f8mJ

>Board game crowdfunding major CMON has warned its losses for the first half of 2025 could be as high as $8m – a figure almost three times the size of its profits from the previous ten years combined.
>The company’s second profit warning in five months again blamed falling revenues for the estimated H1 losses, which it currently puts at between $6m and $8m. It expects to announce its fully-audited losses in its interim report at the end of August.
>CMON was already reeling from a more than $3m loss last year, with falling sales for its crowdfunding campaigns leading the company to its lowest annual revenue since pandemic-hit 2020.
>The estimated half-year loss dwarfs its losses from across all of 2024, and outstrips the almost $5m loss CMON suffered due to lockdowns, manufacturing and shipping delays during the pandemic-hit 2020.
>Those ongoing heavy losses ended three years of improving performance at CMON following its disastrous 2020, although the slowly rising profits between 2021 and 2023 all fell well short of its pre-pandemic performance.

>>96375541 (OP)
The CFO recently nope'd the fuck out IIRC. And they got taken off the HK stock exchange for failing to register accounts, I think? They're going down.

And nothing of value will be lost.

>>96375569
Writing was on the wall the moment they had to sell Zombicide for quick cash.

How far do you think they'll make it down before they fold? I almost backed Mordred.

Good hopefully the trudvang license gets sold to someone who will make the rest of the books

>>96375541 (OP)
Honestly? Seems like this all happened when they bought Mythic Games IPs. They might legitimately be cursed items.
Super Fantasy Brawl is fun though. Glad I got it.

In all seriousness, trying to shoe horn IP bullshit into everything was obviously going to bite them on the ass eventually. Then you got them just not delivering KS stuff nor reprinting stuff that did sell. Pretty shitty way to run a business in general. Bet you a blowjob they blame this on the tarrifs.

>>96375541 (OP)
So, what's the deal, were all these kickstarter-based board game companies just ponzi schemes, essentially? Or are they getting fucked by internation shipping and tariffs?

>>96376056
>Bet you a blowjob they blame this on the tarrifs.
I mean, they ship from China dude... should we pretend tariffs had no impact at all?

>>96376101
Has every single business that has had to deal with tariffs gone bankrupt? Or can businesses still be bad at what they do sometimes?

>>96376181
A lot of the boardgame ones are treading water yes? Like how the fuck is it hard to process that some companies are doing a better job of bailing out water waiting for the industry to stop sinking because they had different business models that were safer. No shit tariffs are destroying the industry lol.

If you want an example go read GMTs updates. Theyre being pretty transparent about how theyre dying soon and they have been doing kickstarter long before it existed and even theyre fucking dead in the water when they have one of the safest models in the industry and a locked in demographic

>>96376325
Man its almost like treating kickstarter as a ponzi scheme isn't that good of a business model.
I would recommend they try something else

>>96376181
Leder announced they were just gonna tank the increased cost I think. Wargames Atlantic put up their prices. A few smaller miniatures companies are charging extra to American customers. Matagot didn't charge any extra to the US on their recent Inis Kickstarter.

I agree with you CMON's business model was always going to trainwreck at some point, because it was essentially a Ponzi scheme. But I do think, with most board game production in China, plenty of companies are taking a hit from the tariffs. The bigger ones with more liquid reserves can handle it, the smaller ones have to either up prices or give up.

>>96376325
>GMT Games going out of business
Bro, please, no.

>>96375732
Unless they get real capital, that's where everything stops. Everything will get liquidated.

>>96376481
>>96376325
Tariffs would not be an $8 million loss.

>>96375560
Says revenue losses. So their costs have gone up but they're also selling less, and have been falling for years.

>>96376365
>I would recommend they try something else
They certainly could have. But it's too late now. The diversification of business needs to happen in preparation for crisis, not when one already started.
When Kingdom Death insisted on setting up resin casting facility in-house people called it unnecessary waste of resouces. Now they're best poised to sail through the tarif storm, because even though they will eat additional costs on plastic that's still made in China they can fall back on production of resin pinups at home.

>>96376481
>announced they were just gonna tank the increased cost
I was just told that's not possible and that tariffs will kill every board game company

>>96376548
I think the IP they sold off has covered their loss for this year, but they're going to have zero new income without getting new games to market.

>>96376579
that's true, the difference is that some will go down delivering what's already in the pipeline, while the other will drop the work unfinished, no refunds

>>96376659
It's crazy that people genuinely believe that

>>96376101
>Should we pretend tariffs had no impact at all?

Nope. They had an impact. If your business is so unbelievably fucked that a 30% increase in declared value tax bankrupts you? Then you made essentially zero profit to begin with and were totally fucked before that tariff kicked off.

CMON is 19 projects deep with millons in funding given for zero return on that capital. It's clearly a company that squandered the fuck out of investments. AND they sold some IPs for $12 million and are still fucked.

CMON is just absolutely screwed and they have nothing to blame it on but dog shit mismanagement.

>>96376493
They sheltered a pedophile (The G of GMT) for a decade or whatever and openly cultivated the politics that fucked them and then spent multiple newsletters melting down about how fucked they are so they really have eaten their own faces

All the anons in here arguing about shit they dont understand when theres actual companies giving concrete numbers is wild tho

>>96376742
Nah, the 12 milly deal fell through.

>>96376742
Their business model was based around taking big swings and big risks bankrolled on kickstarter money and IPs. This isn't rocket science. the risks started not paying off partly because of global economic instability causing stuff like the 12 deal not happening. And yes, tarrifs contribute to things being a pour when it rains

>>96376874
I see, so it's not really anything to do with the tariffs but it is a convenient excuse

>>96376914
What part of the concept of MULTIPLE things at the SAME TIME that has been said like ten times in here already is too complex for your dumbfuck brain to comprehend?

>>96376971
THE PART WHERE IT IMPLIES THE TARIFFS OF MY GOD DADDY WERE ANYTHING BUT A GOOD IDEA!

>>96376971
>>96377002
I forgot bad business practices stopped existing when you become inundated with TDS.
Turns out every single business has gone out of business because of the tariffs. I'm posting with bandwidth I bought from an illegal Chilean kid

>>96377015
Just because when Mdonalds fired you you were immediately broke within a week doesn't mean large companies operate the same way. Hope that makes it easier to understand sweetie

>>96377015
NTA but the argument seems to be "tariffs among other things contributed to this" and you seem to operate on a binary 1 or 0 thing where either tariffs solely caused it or tariffs had no impact at all. Neither of which is what people are arguing.

>>96377025
It's the additonal moronic layer that businesses not having immediately folded means there is nothing wrong. When multiple board game makers have already opened their books to show us how tariffs and the economic instability directly caused by the trade war nonsense were a major contoributor to the pivots they are doing to try to delay bankruptcy long enough for things to get unfucked.

>>96377050
Didn't Stonemaier try to sue the government lmao

>>96377025
>>96377050
I'm simply not going to go along with late night comedy news watchers who have been convinced tariffs are the next Putin Hitler when businesses like CMON are going under purely for bad business reasons.

If my house is about to be foreclosed on but I get robbed of $5 on my way home one day the robbery is not why my house is being foreclosed

>>96377025
The argument that tariffs contributed at all is what is bullshit.
CMON wasn't struggling but able to stay afloat and then tariffs brought a boot down to polish off its flailing remains. The business was a zombie before tariffs. What was the excuse for it failing in 2023? How about 2024? CMON certainly wasn't helped by the tariffs, but the tariffs had FUCK ALL to do with them being in the state they are in.

>>96377102
>>96377082
My anon in Christ your personal bank account does not work like a corporation period,get it through your thick head. Your lack of knowledge on basic economics outside of what news anchors with high school diplomas tell you and insistence on arguing here is cringe

>>96377076
Yeah they did.

It's not going anywhere. Board game companies do not dictate international trading policies.

>>96377138
>it's not like your personal bank account
>therefore bad practices and poor financials don't exist
Lol

>>96377138
My Brother on a Blue Board, nobody is claiming a business is run like a household banking account. They are flat out telling you, clearly, that CMON was failing as a company, they were missing deadlines, failing to make deliveries, failing to progress development of funded projects, and more for literal years before the tariffs happened. They are telling you, outright, tariffs are not the reason CMON is failing and aren't even a contributing factor because it was a dead business before the tariffs even went into effect. The tariffs didn't benefit anybody doing trade with China, however, they had no impact on CMON being in the state it is in because it was in that state before the tariffs kicked in or Trump was even elected.

>>96377207
>had no impact
On their decisions up to this no. Because no company predicts this nonsense. They put themselves in a bad spot. But their recovery now and the reason this is in the news at all and the cascading failures to fulfill is definitely a holistic answer that includes this. You can screech all you want but you're literally disproving your own point so Im not sure why you're even arguing anymore. Yeah everything is reductionist and binary, you win the internet congrats

>>96377247
If I stab you in heart, snap your neck, and as your body falls the ground your head hits a coffee table, you are arguing the coffee table contributed to your death. Most sane people will tell you, you were dead before that coffee table hit your head. You are arguing, you could have been saved if not for that fucking coffee table and are coming off like a retard.

>>96377278
> you
Corporations are not people. What part of that drivel you spewed has anything to do with CMONs business management?

>>96377298
You're basically trying to claim gravity doesn't exist for corporations. I know you're too much of a retard to see how retarded you're being but that doesn't make me feel bad for laughing at you

>>96377337
Damn you threw in the towel quick. Im glad CMON isnt as soft as you and your financial acumen

>>96377337
It is and will continue to be a contributing factor to CMON and other companies' financial difficulties.

>>96377156
>Board game companies do not dictate international trading policies.
God I wish they did.
>Mr Feld, I am not going to roll a die to add a random good to our trade deal. Can't we just trade like normal people.
>No
>Okay, then can I at least draw a hand of 5 goods cards, choose one and pass the others to China?
>That is acceptable

>>96377358
>will continue to be a contributing factor to CMON...'s financial difficulties.
not for long - can't have financial difficulties when you've already gone out of business

>>96377796
I don't know the future. Maybe the dead cat will bounce.

>>96376781
>spent multiple newsletters melting down about how fucked they are
May we see them?
I'm not doubting you (I saw Alexander Macris melting down about shipping costs on the ACKS 2 Kickstarter), but I want to see them.

>>96378297
Never mind, found it.
https://us18.campaign-archive.com/?u=64afd67af980f39db7df40b12&id=bf7ebe661b

well, rip Meikyuu Kingdom and Magika Logia official english translation, i guess

>>96376056
It's the tariffs.

S

>>96377156
They should.

CMON insider here. Yes, it's bad. But CMON will continue oparating. CMON will change the business model. There are plans to release more stuff to retail in the upcoming months. There's also rumors about some kind of small marketing campaign in California or whatever. Something to do with YouTube. But we'll see how things turn out.

>>96377337
Hey girl, look what North Star Figures posted this morning. Just put the fries in the bag buddy thinking these companies work like us
"Bonjour our American Chums.
From Monday, we are going to have to add 10% to your orders to cover the new Tariff costs on all goods exported to the USA.
The Tariffs are being collected here in the UK by the Post Office and other Courier services each time we book a parcel to be sent, this does mean the parcels will be delivered to you with no extra cost.
Any orders placed before Monday won't have the extra Tariff added, but will still be delivered to you without extra cost"

>>96380816
May we see the tariff bill?
>guys we found a convenient excuse to raise prices and you'll blindly trust our numbers to pwn drumf
But yes, I'm glad it's a new day and we're already back to "businesses are immune to being poorly managed"

>>96379224
My dad works at Nintendo.

>>96376742
>If your business is so unbelievably fucked that a 30% increase in declared value tax bankrupts you?
The profit margins for most businesses selling goods to consumers are generally 30-40%.

>Then you made essentially zero profit to begin with and were totally fucked before that tariff kicked off.
Yes, running a business is hard and profit margins are razor thin. Capitalism/Competition basically ensure it.

>>96381277
Did they actually sell goods or kickstarter campaigns?

>>96381284
Yes? The largest LGS in my country regularly has dozens of their games restocked as they sell them out. They also stock two SKUs often to sell exclusive boxes as well. Does that surprise you or something?

It's a real company anon. It just played it very risky for years. A high risk business doesn't make it a bad business but that one anon is hyperfixated on the idea that a business being high risk is equivalent to an individual when it is totally different worlds

>>96375732
I want all in for DC united as my first backing of a crowdfunded game, I learned my lesson, even if they miraculously manage to fulfill my order I'm never doing this again.

>>96381409
A few years ago FOMO worked but now major retailers will bring in everything a campaign releases and sit on it. Anyone who isn't poor can just pay a bit extra after its out and save so much headache. And actually get a real finished product after the dust settles and the fake hype and marketing money filters the youtube ads ... i mean reviewers out. Doing any kind of preorder for boardgames in 2025 is really stupid to be blunt.

>>96380836
Royal Mail, DHL, (and I also know of Thai Mail) are all refusing to ship to the USA as per a BBC article today because of tarrif costs. But no, of course, theyre just turning away money for no reason, it's all fake right buddy? Good luck getting your gamefounds fulfilled in 6 months

>>96381698
You're retarded, you thought they were just going to stop shipping to one of the largest consumer markets on the planet?
>Royal Mail said it was withdrawing its current US export services for businesses from Tuesday, but added it hoped to have a new system up and running within two days to allow it to comply with the new rules before they kick in.
Now show me their bill that says they needed to increase the cost of their finished product by 10% because the tariffs

>>96381798
I give up on you not being a moron. Your entire line has been tariffs have no impact. So now you admit they have. Suck a fucking dick and enjoy the fat L

>>96375560
Next Kickstarter goal: $8 million. Fans eagerly pay because they want their plastic

>>96381409
To be honest dude I don't back CMON stuff but I have never had a project not be delivered via crowdfunding. Just try to do due diligence in the future and don't fall for the FOMO. The worst I've had is stuff be late, and admittedly that sometimes means more than a year late.

>>96381798
The actual issue affecting all the wargames companies right now is the removal of the de minimis exemption. That's why Belgium Norway etc are refusing to ship to the US for less than 800$ parcels.

>>96381409
There isn't a lot of companies you can trust to be a safe bet with crowdfunding.
Pretty much the only one I know of that is pretty safe is Chip Theory Games. That's mainly because they got their ideas, mechanics, components, and such fleshed out before crowdfunding. They dropped the ball pretty hard with Too Many Bones' last crowdfunding campaign though with it being unusually very late for them. They also don't do FOMO at all, so that helps.

>>96382487
It also helps that they inflate their prices far beyond most games thanks to their credibility so they always have a huge buffer to work with. It's a much safer approach to target whales with crowdfunding with the way chip theory does higher initial buyin than to do CMONs model that was volume based and now bites them so hard in the ass

I remember a few years ago people were talking about how CMON has always operated at a loss because the money they make from Kickstarters doesn't count towards profits or some shit. Guess they were talking out their ass.
Am I sad I'll never get the Bloodborne: The Old Hunters stuff I was hoping for? Yeah. Am I sad there won't be MGS2/3 board games? Yeah. Am I sad they're going under? No. I'm glad that the companies that encouraged massive kickstarters sold on the backs of hundreds of minis are going under. I hope Steamforged Games is next, they're well overdue for a collapse. Especially given how they handled the Elden Ring game.

>>96379013
it also means that Fan--translation is BACK ON THE MENU!

>>96375541 (OP)
Good. I want every company that holds their shit hostage on Kickstarter to die a slow, painful, GigaAIDS+UberCancer death.

>>96383027
>>96383198
They're literally just giving the people what they want. 14000 paid for DC United, you may disagree with them, but that's 14000 people who are happy to play the capitalist game that's offered to them. If anything it makes CMON a good business for catering to the desires of a huge market. Or more simply, it's minis for people who dont have 3dprinting as an option

>>96382524
They are more expensive than they should be, no doubt. The only big plus about their core design philosophy is I don't have to worry about extra protection after market purchases for pretty much anything they make.

It's a special kind of retard that gets super pissed that CTG stuff doesn't include extra space in their card storage area so they can sleeve their cards.

>>96375541 (OP)
How is this possible? Didn't Kickstarter cover all their capital cost? Also sad Meilyuu Kingdom most likely won't be localizes

>>96383283
If they sold the files so I can 3D print them myself I'd hate them a lot less desu

>>96384663
Selling the files is pandoras box. Companies don't want the average joe to realize how 3dprinting is so easy and cheap so they avoid the topic at all costs. Theres zero chance in hell marvel and dc would have given them permission for that either

has anyone ordered the batman hush set they released a few days ago?

>>96383412
Why is weird to want space for sleeved cards?

>>96381798
Yes cretinbecile, they are not running a charity. Less propaganda buzzwords, more turning brain on. They are not going to eat losses because HURR DURR MURRICA! they will either massively raise prices or go elsewhere. Economy 101, stop licking MAGA jackboots, no amount of wishful thinking will change reality.

And yes, this loss is caused by moronic trumpo tariffs, because foreign companies have the other 97% of planet to sell to but murican ones are stuck and see their profits completely wiped out. Unless you think largest wave of bankrupcies in USA since 2008 financial crisis is uh, a complete accident?

https://www.newsweek.com/us-bankruptcies-highest-level-since-covid-2116819

>>96385501
All CTG cards are PVC. Sleeving PVC cards doesn't offer any kind of protection for them at all. If you do something that can fuck up the PVC cards used then sleeves wouldn't have stopped that damage. People still want to sleeve them, however, CTG has straight said "No. That's silly. We made the cards basically indestructible so you don't have to sleeve them. We aren't wasting storage space on something that you shouldn't be doing in the first place."

>>96375541 (OP)
That's rough.

>>96383283
>They're literally just giving the people what they want.
No they're not, in fact it's practically the opposite. They lock half their shit behind Kickstarter exclusives. If some guy who just got into board games in the last few years were to play Bloodborne nearly half the content can't be bought except at high prices from random people selling it.

>>96375541 (OP)
You reap what you sow

I'll never get tired of watching ignorant armchair entrepreneurs chat utter shite on 4chan without the faintest waft of the scent of credibility or accountability.
There's zero reason not to, so they can just say the stupidest things with all undue authority behind it and boy do they take advantage of it. So much so in fact I feel like more and more begin to be convinced by their own retarded conviction.

>>96390645
>no they are not
Then why do 20000 people consistently pay money for that system? I bet that's more copies alone than the shit you buy and then double that number for retail copies after the fact. People seem pretty happy to me!

>>96391421
You are either terminally retarded or baiting. If they're giving people what they want where can I buy the Upper Cathedral Ward expansion for Bloodborne at a reasonable price? I want it and according to you they're selling it.

>>96391522
Don't be a fucking poorfag loser and join the campaign like the other 23986 people who could get the thing, entitled brat

>>96391148
It's not that deep, you armchair psycho-analyst.
>I don't like what the company does
>company goes under
>me happy

>>96375541 (OP)
I guess we finally know the answer to the question of "Cool Mini Or Not"

>>96375732
everyone that backed Massive Darkness DoS are gonna be real disappointed
DMD Forbidden Reaches is never gonna happen

>>96385892
>Unless you think largest wave of bankrupcies in USA since 2008 financial crisis is uh, a complete accident?
I think our economy has a huge number of problems, I think the tariffs hatred is overstated because of TDS. To me it seems the same people who suddenly hopped on the 'tariffs bad' train are also the people telling me why I need an illegal underclass for heckin check veggies

>>96392041
>check
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Brought to you by Hop Valley Cryo Stash 9% ABV

>>96391522
I'm gonna be real with you chief, the only expansion you should look out for the the Blood Moon Extras box because that has the extra hunters in it. CMON kept a lot of hunters as exclusives and they are pretty damn different.

All the area expansions are just OK. The enemy count is laughably low, there is usually just one map tile, and the quests are tacked on feeling.

Bloodborne isn't a very good game played RAW. Have it so if you hit something on the same round it hits you then you generate half the damage you dealt as health and the turn tracker should never advance until all hunters go to the hunters dream and it is dramatically improved.

>>96392041
Enjoy your 20 buck potatoes and 100 buck miniatures.

>>96392061
Potatoes are hand harvested and planted crops. Berries, grapes, broccoli, kale, and such are the kind of crops you hire illegals for when you used to just pay a bunch of 12-16 year olds $100 a week to pick the fields during school break.

The only crop that is a staple crop that requires hand planting methods are onions as far I know because you got a replant them halfway through. That's about it though.

>>96392041
>this comment brought to you by someone who washed out of working 4 hours twice a week putting my fries in a bag but thinks they can do the 10-14 hour workday on a farm

Enjoy not even being able to afford the resin for your miniatures soonafter they stop shipping most games over

>>96392084
Why don't you found a farm if you're such an expert then?

>>96392118
Who would last longer, that anon running a farm ,or Cool Mini no Longer's death throes

>>96392128
Uuh, that's a tough question. I can't see anon lasting over a winter, so I begrudgingly have to give it to CMON, who might see the spring.

>>96392084
The ongoing demographic decline in the US has made even seasonal child labor unsustainable and ineffective just due to lack of young people.
Applies to entire first world, really.

>>96393206
Allow women more powerful politically and economically? They kill your population growth 100% of the time, every time.

>>96392118
I have a personal garden, grew up doing farm work and am surrounded by farms.

Acres and acres and acres of cotton, tobacco, corn, and more. The only thing getting picked by hand? Tobacco.

>>96376097
perpetual growth is the only tolerable option, if you can't forever grow you die

>>96393787
Population growth tends to die as result of post-agrarian urbanization even in socially conservative countries, Iran and most of Gulf Arab states are below the population replacement level too.

>>96375541 (OP)
>>96375560
Ha.
Serves you right for killing Darkage you fucks.

>>96392056
I alright got Bloodborne All In. I'm talki g about people who found the game after the campaign ended. Also its fine RAW. Get good.

>>96391833
What do you do if you don't find the game until the campaign and late pledge is over?

>>96392056
I got the All In. The game is fine RAW, you if you need extra healing then you unironically just need to get good.

>>96394746
Then you don't get it? The same way anything limited in life works?

>>96394746
>The game is fine RAW

It functions but not as a Bloodborne game.
Bloodborne was not a race against time and having the boardgame be a race against time is a poor representation of the source material.
Bloodborne also encouraged you to fight enemies and you gained lost health by playing aggressively. While dodging was always an option, BB really shined by having you tank a hit then beat the butt fucking brains out of a monster all while gaining health back. The board game? You really want to just run past enemies to advance objectives because healing is rare, enemies do too much damage, and, again, you are on a time limit.

So Bloodborne RAW works as a board game but it is a pretty shit representation of the source material, however, a couple of rules tweaked fixes that problem and makes it a much better match.

>>96393795
That's a whole lot of words for "other people will do it".

>>96383480
Kickstarter is being used a hype-machine/advertisement. The company itself set aside the minimum amount of money needed to make the product, and at the same time they set the kickstarter goals real low. This way, they could announce at twitter constantly on how much they're smashing their goals or that the kickstarter is 200% funded when in reality the money from the goal they set would never be enough to fund the entire project by itself. That's how kickstarter mostly operates.

>>96394846
sounds like you lost your own challenge and are now quick to move the goalpost
>inb4 samefag

>>96394846
I do my own work? That's what was meant by having my own garden. An acre and a half of crops and some fruit trees and shrubs on top of ducks for eggs and smoke game and fish. Shit, I even mill my own wheat berries into flour, but don't grow wheat as the yield is too low to justify space used compared to corn or Jerusalem artichokes. Wheat berries keep for decades and I got around 500 pounds of them so I should be good for a while yet.

>>96375732
I knew they were fucked when they dumped Clan Wars and wrote a passive aggressive letter about it essentially putting all blame of 6MV. I may want to get some of those GoT minis

>>96392041
>the tariffs hatred is overstated because of TDS
It's hard to overstate it.
>economy doing pretty well, all things considered
>throw a wrench in the spanner and start tariffing everything while claiming they'll have the opposite effect of what they actually do
>proceed to fuck with what gets tariffed and by how much every month, making it impossible for businesses to make a solid plan for the future
>create massive amounts of uncertainty both internally and internationally, making America look like an unreliable trade partner
Shooting ourselves in the foot and being told this isn't a bad thing or is actually somehow good is fucking insanity. It's a problem that didn't need to exist, designed to 'fix' a problem it possibly can't.

>>96394955
What challenge did I lose, hmm?

>>96383155
they were never off the menu, and both of those game already have fan translation

I went all in for Dune desert wars campaign, which was supposed to be delivered at early May or end of June, now it seems like its going to be pushed back to Q1 of 2026. i swear, this is my last campaign on kickstarter/gamefound.

>>96395838
Tariffs were shown to be on track to reduce the deficit by $4 trillion overall in the next decade. Turns out they didn't increase inflation or pricing anywhere near what was expected either. As in the inflation and cost of living did rise, however, it was less of an increase than when Biden was in office.

>>96397395
>now it seems like its going to be pushed back to Q1 of 2026
Anon, I...

>>96393878
Yup.

Turns out that when people move into big cities and two bedroom apartments with no back yard (and rent that costs half your pay check) they tend not to have 4+ children, regardless of local values/culture/religion.

>>96395838
You are economically illiterate

>>96398091
Maybe, but I'm not wrong.

>>96399044
>economy doing well
You're too illiterate to see just how retarded you are

>>96399044
The fact that you think the economy was strong when inflation was routinely north of 8% each year under Biden is really letting everyone know you are a moron. Inflation on a particularly shitty year before Biden was 4%, on average it was around 2.5-3%.

From the time the Dems popped a stimulus check until Trump took office it was at least 8%.

>>96399155
>economy doing pretty well, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Pot calling the kettle illiterate. Shit should be WAY worse right now than it actually is right now.

>>96398065
Nah, turns out letting women get abortions lowers birthrates.

In the USA alone, just removing medically assisted abortion (i.e. shoving a shop vac up the old baby chute) would have birth rates north of 1.7 for sure and most estimates put it into 2.1. Removing all birth control measures would put the USA well into population growth instead of just replacement levels.

So, just axe all forms of birth control everywhere and make action illegal. Hell, you can get an abortion if the kid is gonna be a water head or if the pregnancy is from a rape (provided you filled charges, got a rape kit done, etc) because nobody should ever believe an accusation like that without solid proof.

I'm never getting that Mordred game, am I?

>>96395031
>Jerusalem artichokes
This man FARMS

>>96399518
Isn't mordred an old game they just shoved a bunch of minis into and reskinned?

Honestly, CMON doesn't do new ideas for shit and just reuses established ideas and games a lot while whoring out minis. How bad do you gotta be fucking up when you basically don't have create shit but minis and flip some assets around but still can't deliver a product when you got millions to make it?

>>96399698
not really. It's the next game in the Blood Rage/Rising Sun/ Ankh series, but without Eric Lang designing it as he left the company beforehand. There´s some similar mechanics, mainly it being an area control game with a "war" event for combat resolution where you play cards to improve your chances or do something else. A section of the game board is kind of "locked" until the midpoint of the game, and there´s a somewhat Ankh-like action mechanism.

>>96399373
>ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
That's not a magic phrase that makes your economic illiteracy any less blatant. All things considered we're not resorting to cannibalism that doesn't make the economy good.

Nooooooo not my kickstarter shovelware miniatures games!

>>96381409
Me too m8. Fingers crossed.
>>96381446
I already bought the Marvel sets at retail and wish I'd gotten the backer stuff. It's not like the DC set was a new unknown thing.

>>96399506
It would be a mercy to your family (?) if you died mangled in a car crash

>>96376097
A lot of them got used to the post-2012 Board Game/Nerd Culture Boom's growth and didn't prepare a sustainable plan when the boom eventually dies down and the market saturates. Like it was already dying around 2018 (mass death of board game cafes) and really did it when Covid struck.

>>96399506
How do you explain low birth rates of most non-poor muslim countries?

>>96400933

Saudi Arabia was still over 2 last I checked.
But Iraq, Pakistan, and such have really high birth rates.
Wealthy nations? They usually are more liberal with women's issues, even in Muslim nations.
As soon as you let women become equal in political and social standing? You kill your citizenry because traditional female roles are viewed with outright disgust by them.

>>96400777
I got no clue why you are supporting women on 4chan, they aren't gonna fuck you.

>>96376056
>Mythic Games might be cursed items
I think you are onto something here

>>96375541 (OP)
tl;dr - the company that raised millions of revenue by crowdfunding, stopped crowdfunding and made less money?

"They're doomed!"

>>96376633
>I think the IP they sold off has covered their loss for this year, but they're going to have zero new income without getting new games to market.

This is probably the only sensible post I'm seeing here.

>>96379224
Want to actually share what those direct-to-retail products are? I'll go first since DC United: Hush is already leaked on Amazon.

Tell me about the Marvel game they're working on. Or the localizations of Japanese games.

Even if I pretent you are an "insider" (I'm guessing you talked to someone who actually works there at a con within the last year), you don't know anything.

>>96381446
Pretty much this. I'll throw money at products I want to support, but I actually want to support them as much as I want the toys.

What's really going to kill the high dollar mini-heavy boardgames is how more people will start flocking to 3-D printers for their plastic hits, leaving people to look at the actual games again. $500 will buy a lot of (legally acquired) STLs and resin.

>>96404024
The fearmongering around resin is the barrier. Water based isnt much better but itll convince people to switch over. CMON loses in this because marvel stls are plentiful. But realistically, most people buying this arent allowed by mom and dad or their wifes bf to print at home

>>96404038
>or their wifes bf

I was going to make a joke about no 4Channer could be married, but then I realized we're talking about neckbeards who can afford $300+ games and 3-D printers. Those guys have earning power and would be snapped up.

It's what their wives' boyfriends would want.

>>96404038
My fear is dropping hundreds for the wrong printer and the wrong secondary tools, all of which uses the wrong resin for the wrong software for the wrong file types.

I'm doing good to be using the wrong paints with the wrong brushes on all the minis I'll never do anything with anyway.

>>96404393
>4channers
>all that reddit spacing
Lol

>>96404435
That's not reddit spacing, newfriend.
A reddit space is two lines.


Like this.

>>96404513
It is not two lines specifically, it is the extra line of spacing between the greentext and the body of the reply

>>96404642
A reddit space is called that cause redditors are used to double entering due to SHIFT+Enter not moving properly.

>>96404675
Correct, which causes the extra space between the greentext and the body of the reply. And I mean, these heckin 4channers, huh?

I'm just kinda bummed that I took the time to learn how to type "correctly" and doing so gets you in queer looks a lot.

>>96405261
. For example, you have zero idea how much it annoys me I can't indent my posts without putting a period followed by a bunch of spaces.
How about underlining the title of a book, film, or play? Good luck with that.

>>96375560
FPBP.

>>96403905
I never backed one of their projects since they always reeked of FOMO, but if they used the funds from their new projects to fulfill their old ones, stopping to make new ones would crash the company.

>>96405261
>>96405289
You learned wrong. Spelling and grammar can be correct or not. Though grammar is a lot more flexible than rules tend to suggest.
Style in formatting is only as "correct" as style in fashion. Wearing tails to a football game doesn't make you well dressed or stylish, it makes you an attention seeking little faggot.
Using a period to indent a paragraph is not just wrong but embarrassing.