Thread 96378523

Eternal Spoiler Season edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>>>96363737

>TQ
What is your favorite keyword?

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>>96365430
You missed the thread already up, shill

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/where-to-find-spider-man-previews
Short previews next week.

I like Corsair keyboards.

>>96378523 (OP)
My favorite is proliferate.

>>96378523 (OP)
I especially liked warp this set.

>>96377542
>i'm a retard for quoting what MaRo said

Literally every post in this thread is the shill op, holy shit Mark, get it together

>>96378825
including the one you just posted? checkmate, athiest

> Introduced to low power commander with friends, this is pretty fun!.
Try to play online.
Anyway here's my infinite mana, artifacts, enchantments and so many effects you don't remember half of them.

Do most players just like jerking off alone to their combo?

>>96378556
His design is so bad.

>tiny little goblin face
>armor that lets him bend backwards but not forwards and will stab into his own groin
>armor at all
>only three fingers for some ungodly reason
>boneless noodle tail
>that stupid little chin thing

One of the ugliest dragons ever.

>>96378824
>On a card or two at high rarity, maybe a 5.
Reminder that MaRo and co. in their infinite flagrant incompetence, broke one of the longest-standing design rules in all of MTG,never having a set with both +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters together, with Duskmourn.

>>96378523 (OP)
cumulative upkeep

>>96378892
>One of the ugliest dragons ever.
His OG design was pure gigakino and it's a disgrace that they ruined it.

>>96378523 (OP)
Is Spider-Man black? Why is Spider-Man in magic?

>>96378905
>Is Spider-Man black?
half black

>>96378902
He needs to moisturize.

>>96378912
Anon, that's green.

>>96378885
Yeah, randoms with freedom will always skew towards hyper competitive. It was designed as a fun side format to be a break from the competitive main formats, and people had to try hard in the bouncy castle fun zone.

Finally went to FNM tonight (took me three weeks just to get a playset of Bitter Triumphs). There were only three other people, apparently there's a big tournament in a nearby state so everyone went out there for it. Didn't win any matches (I wasn't able to hold down Weapons Manufacturing or mice for long enough, plus they kept Torching all my mana dorks), but I had fun, which is way more than I can say about the last time I was playing standard. I also got a Fomori Vault from the promo pack, so I guess I got my money's worth out of it too.

>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=71876&f=PREM
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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>96379009
if this format comes to Arena I will try it

LGS is basically out of EOE, so we had to do chaos draft of DFT, TDM, and EOE. I did 5 color because I picked up a bunch of tap lands in DFT and TDM. Only ever did pre-release for both of those formats, so I just went for good started creatures and removal. Placed 3rd in my pod, losing to the gruul aggro deck that won 1st for the pod. This card did a lot of work in my final match, doubling the 1 mana blue pacifism in game 1 and gravkill in game 3.

Why is Green Goblin RB. HE'S FUCKING GREEN

>1W
>Create a 2/1 green Spider creature token with reach.

>>96379096
>why is the egotist mass murderer with an obsession with power and zero impulse control B/R?

>>96379096
because green/white is mostly good guys and black/red is mostly bad guys

I have to ask a question.

Why magic? Why not any other card game?

What tweaks could I make?
Not sure on the numbers of each 1 drop

>>96379189
Needs more frogs

>>96379171
Because I greatly enjoy Magic, despite everything. And I don't like any of the others; I don't care about One Piece and it felt sluggish and clumsy with its resource system, Yugioh is too breakneck and overwhelming for me, Flesh and Blood is too generic to get me hooked and I don't like the way interaction is allowed in Pokémon, nor have I ever cared about disney enough to care about Lorcana.

With how much gorgeous art this game has, it's kind of insane to me that there's no true collection of all the original pieces anywhere. Most of them are cropped to fit the frame and always have at least a little bit that isn't on the card.

>>96379189
>play cavern of souls
>need to choose a creature type

>avatar
>beast
>bird
>cleric
>dragon
>druid
>elf
>frog
>human
>noble
>survivor
>warrior

>>96379245
MTGPics is the closest you'll get.

>>96379299
Obviously you choose Vampire.

>>96379299
Choose clown then concede

Place your bets /mtg/. What will be the biggest decks in Dune standard?

Ornithopters matter
Bene Gesserit wizards
Grixis Bijaz
Paul voltron

>>96379320
Sandworm tribal and Harkonnen combo

>>96379320
>Place your bets /mtg/. What will be the biggest decks in Dune standard?
UR Prowess.

>>96379317
>t1 cavern of souls naming Noggle
>t2 cavern of souls naming Rigger
>opponent is orange name
>account banned

>>96378523 (OP)
>2/2
So this normal human guy is as strong as grisly bears

>>96379512
Emrakul jobs to 8 bears. No idea why she was considered a threat.

>>96379512
JJ Jameson is definitely a bear

>>96379189
explain the creatures

>>96379096
The Green Goblin is Black/Red.
Norman is the Green one.

>>96379512
You have to compare it to it's own universe. He's weaker than a guy in a chair.

>>96379655
>He's weaker than a guy in a chair.
In THE chair. That chair is Legendary, anon.

>>96379668
Can we go back to this time we’re my Standard sets were only 4 and Paypiggies had to pay for the extra sets for their shitty formats like Cummander?

>>96379585
with the seriema, ambrosia + worrywort sets up a loop that can infinitely tutor and recur any legendary creature with mana value 3+

>seriema gets ambrosia, ambrosia bounces seriema, seriema gets worrywort, worrywort bounces ambrosia, ambrosia bounces seriema, seremia gets finisher, finisher bounces ambrosia, ambrosia bounces finisher
Jill can bounce any nonland permanents
Vanille can recur any killed/milled pieces
Dragonhawk is infinite damage

So I'm fairly new to mtg, so bear with me. What the hell is going on with prices? I'm used to stuff having some variation, such as being able to go on ebay or whatever and being able to snag a deal every now and then. Mtg stuff seemingly NEVER has variation and ALWAYS locks in at the same price every time.
>go on ebay looking for a card or precon
>they're all literally the same price buy it now
>the few auctions that exist ALWAYS land at the same "market" price dictated by ebay/tcgplayer

>>96378868
"Nothing's athier. It's the athiest!"

>>96379860
Magic has had price memory maybe since the beginning, but at least for 25 years. Big stores buy tons of singles and list them all at once, creating a "price wall." I believe it's successful (and happens even without buyouts) due to low supply, low demand, and profits requiring quantity, so little attention is given to individual pricing and there's rarely a race to the bottom. A long time ago I listed high-demand cards for cheap (well under buylist prices) and no one bought any, they must have thought it was a scam, so I don't know if there's much incentive to offer a deal, players are used to paying. When supply is high and demand is low, you see 30 cent mythics and 10 cent rares.

>>96379516
How? He is flying.

>>96379668
Have they said which remastered set they're doing early next year? I usually look forward to those - as the only new set releases I do look forward to - but INR was a disaster with no retro frame Thalia, Cavern of Souls etc.

>>96379668
4 commander decks and collector boosters should not count as a set

>>96378899
I'm getting sick of every keyword and mechanic effectively evergreen, so you'll randomly get a card with flashback, kicker, -1/-1 counters or exalted in the same set with no rhyme or reason.

https://youtu.be/7gF1qn-KzbM

Renounce the cardboard devil.

>>96378902
nice dragon nipple

>>96380747
If you think about it, Lick Ol' Balls's nipples must be about the size of a regular human.

>standard players are so retarded that making only one thread is too complicated for them
Many such cases

>>96380258
People like you need to be killed immediately
>muh lore reason for keywords
Kill yourself

I like how WotC keeps pointing out that Vivi is only 50% of any given Standard tournament.

Conveniently ignoring how that percentage rises the closer you get to the top.

Monstrous Rage
Cutter
Vivi
together as one...

Standard as MaRo intended.

>>96380823
That's some damn huge books he's reading

>>96380952
I don't think Mark is in charge of format balance.

>>96380952
Why would they care? Standard is shit and they are still breaking sell record.And since nobody care they can just stop playtesting and cut cost.

Bullshit Pushed Red 1 Drop {R}
Creature - Faggot
Haste
When this creature deals combat damage to an opponent, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Sacrifice this creature: It deals damage equal to its power to any target.
1/1
"Lets just get to the logical conclusion already"

Will Dimir Midrange and Mono Green Landfall do decent against the meta in standard? Im trying to not blow all my wildcards.

>>96381064
>doesn't generate card advantage
>doesn't create treasure
>not even 2/1
>pushed

>>96381113
okay shit it should be

Faggoty Gay Aggro Shit {R}
Creature - Colossal Faggot
Haste
Whenever this creature becomes blocked or becomes the target of a spell or ability it deals 2 damage to any target
When this creature dies, create a treasure token and exile the top card of your library. You may play it until the end of your next turn. Creature spells you cast this way gain haste (They already had haste, you're a red deck)
2/1

>>96378892
>armor that lets him bend backwards but not forwards and will stab into his own groin
...anon?
that armor is segmented
he can bend forwards
are you stupid

>>96381133
>dies
Every removal exile now, you need to add "or is exiled"

>>96381214
naw we've skipped straight past that and Anticausal Vestige comes back every time you bounce it

you still play this? with the new sets, even? or are you all just newfags?

just make it simple lul

Slickshot Initiate {R}
Creature - Bird Wizard
Flying, Prowess, Prowess
1/1

Okay but why not just give Vivi hate and a tap ability.

>>96381183
The lower portions of the armor are fully compressed. If he leaned forward, there is no way for the armor to move that doesn't have the lower section of each plate pressing down on the next section, all the way down to that last piece.

See how the upper sections of the armor are lifting and separating because he's leaning back slightly? That armor is designed so that it lets the dragon lean backwards or be rigidly straight, but leaning forwards would lead that point on the last piece to dig into his own abdomen.

>>96381376
every format on MTGO is more interactive than formats on MTGA
where the threats are equally powerful but no answers exist
MTGA is just starting to get actual interaction bleeding into it now with strip mine / etc

>>96378546
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>>96381496
Is this your only counter argument, I wonder? That premoder is played all over the world, but also in Brazil?

>>96381454
>The lower portions of the armor are fully compressed.
says who?

Do you eat your cards with ketchup or hot sauce?

>>96381538
Curry

>>96381480
Modern is trash man

>>96381542
South curry or East curry?

>>96381572
East

>>96378523 (OP)
Honestly that's a pretty good Jameson. One of the few solidly-flavoured cards we've seen so far from Spider-Man.

>>96381559
I also thought that before I switched from legacy to modern, playing against energy is 1000x times better than any form of blue black deck right now
ponder and brainstorm players don't deserve any human rights

this might be an unpopular opinion here but Timeless has a lot of based Alchemy cards like this

>Timeless
>Historic
>Alchemy
All the same shit and obviously non-real digital only shit Magic

>>96382207
Find a way to cope, grandpa.

>>96382090
Pretty cool. I don't really see why this couldn't work in paper too. These are basically just counters you can't really interact with outside of its intended mechanic.

>>96382090
>Based
>Alchemy
Pick one

>>96382307
It works in every zone. So if you sacrifice this and Emry in play you can recast it and draw the same number of cards. It could work but I think they believe tracking it adds too much overhead

>>96382307
>>96382349
Experience counters. Literally make the counters Experience counters and boom! Instantly works in paper.

>>96382323
I pick based

When we will dig more into Battles and Emblems? Every fucking set is the same horrible shit “add X counters here” “do thing draw X” “Sac thing do X” when was the last time we actually got an interesting and new mechanic?

Damn avatar products look expensive
70 for a bundle
200 for a booster box

i want curses back and they become competitive finally…

>>96382423
Warp was a pretty awesome mechanic. It synergizes with so many different things

I kinda dislike that the most op thing you can do with it is blink though, the other stuff it does is way cooler

>>96382423
wait for avatar anon.
free blink to cheat stuff
make lands immortal creatures
FREE mana on attack
i think this is all pretty original (and broken)

>>96382483
Tooth seems pretty broken which is based since she was my favorite character in Avatar

>>96382432
They're hoping to match Final Fantasy.
It's delusional, but that is what they want

Stop talking about Avatar. Universes Within (Spider-Man) is not out yet.

>>96382615
So how about that Combustion Man? Excited for his card?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAiNzrgqqAY

As i was stealing enemy spells i just remembered that you could mill you enemy out if you copy a spell that has a ''gift a card'' option on it. I should really try and build a deck that tries to gift someone his whole deck or manybe just copy a spell that make the oponent draw cards?

>>96382443
If curses were competitive, they'd have a lot of enchantment removal to deal with it. IMO, they should print cheap (1-3 mana), symmetric hosers that change the game. Taxes, stuff that hurts big mana bases, things that punish card draw, things that punish too many creatures

And then you build your deck to play around the hoser

>>96382704
Curse of Opulence and Torment of Scarabs are quite nice though. I always liked Reality Acid in commander and flickering it to attach to hexproof creatures. Maybe they could have an enchant player aura that can flicker. You can attach it to yourself or a different player and it has both upside and downside

Witcher set when?

Silent Hill set when?

game of thrones set when?

>>96382877
that would actually be badass

>>96383029
Monkey paw motherfucker

You get
Magic The Gathering Presents: The Witcher, a Netflix Collaboration

>>96382877
yes

>>96382877
did anyone actually play the first 2 Witcher games? whenever I talk about it with people they only mention 3

I want this UB era to end... What a disgrace for anyone who actually cares about this game.

Anything worth cutting for solve the equation? (ignore diamond/intuition they are there as cope).

>>96383219
First is rough gameplay-wise by modern standards, but 2nd is just fine.

>>96383224
>I want this UB era to end
Mr.Rosewater says...
The Ride Never Ends

New ideas for UB:

Power Rangers UB
Gundam UB
The Culture UB
More Warhammer UB

>>96383219
I did.
The first one had something that will never happen in a mainstream video game ever again; every time you had sex with someone, you got a card with some softporn art on it, like the girls were some kind of pokemon you had to collect. It was one of the most chauvinistic, monkey-brained mechanics I've encountered, and I was all for it.

You know you want it
UB RuPaul's Drag Race

>>96383322
Nah, Rosewater has little to say in that matter. It's Cocks who is the culprit.

Avatar is going to be slop, isn't it.

Battletech UB Clan centric and each of the clans is a different color

And Shadowrun UB

everything would be better than spider man

So Spider Ham actually seems like a great commander

>>96383427
My growing dislike for Mulaney is somehow enough to make want to avoid that card as much as possible.

Also, a bear with an anthem and a food token is very meh, and extremely meh as a commander.

>>96383297
This is a thread for MTG. Commander is not MTG.

>>96383427
You are supossedly a professional bussines man, you should know your customer base and what could attract or repel them... And you give the green light to a whole UB of Spider-man and this card.

Is Cocks not only a surname but also his job?

>>96383522
Had both threads open, oops.
>Commander is not MTG
It's 2025, my local store doesn't even host modern any more.

>>96383427
>basically a bear lord for a bunch of gimmick types, few of which are present or notable in green
What about him is great, exactly?

>>96383544
Cummander isn't and never will be Magic, anon.
That is factual information. Is like comparing, is like tennis and paddle.

>>96381502
Seething macacou

>>96383559
You mean table tennis?

>>96383563
the poster you're responding to will gladly report you and try to get you banned for making posts like this

Final Fantasy was a mistake.

>>96383559
You can repeat that as much as you want but it won't change the fact that standard outside of arena is a joke, modern is basically dead, and every other format isn't even a consideration.

I play draft, casual edh and cedh because that's what's available at my LGS's anon. If wotc worked to revive interest in 60card formats I'd be all in, haven't played my urza tron deck in years now.

>>96383297
Cut Disallow for Solve the Equation. I'd recommend swapping one of your expensive
counterspells for Swan Song as well

>>96383573
Nah Spooderman is a mistake
Avatar is a mistake
FF looks more Magic than a lot of actual sets

>>96383645
The problem isn't the theme of FF, it's the fact it has way too many cracked cards to appease Square Enix, and their cards show up in every top deck because of it.

>>96383594
But nothing that you say makes “Commander” actual “Magic” just makes the format that is not “Magic” “popular”

Magic the gathering is a competitive card game revolving around 60 card decks with a sideboard of 15 cards. The format you play right now is a casual tabletop version of that.

>>96383645
UB is a fucking mistake no matter the flavor. You can do an Elden Ring UB and it could end being popular and beloved but still will be an UB vomit.

>>96383634
If anything I'd want to cut disallow for Stifle so I can still deal with things like Magda, Oracle, etc. triggers.

Probably my worst counterspell outside of Disallow is Cryptic Command, then Archmages charm. So I'd probably cut in that order.
>>96383686
(You)

>>96383702
Concession accepted

>>96383686
Reading the post explains the post.

>>96383702
>Stifle
Why not tale's end? You can hit their commander or an activated or triggered ability

>>96383663
>it's the fact it has way too many cracked cards
Literally the only one actually affecting the meta is Vivi, and that's more because of Agatha's Soul Cauldron than Vivi himself.
Traveling Chocobo is nice, but it's just landfall panharmonicon. Landfall existed before it.

>>96383663
>it has way too many cracked cards
...does it?
The most expensive non-fancy art card is $40. Only a few mythics are in the 40-20 range, and then there's a slew of cheap rares.

>>96383460
>Also, a bear with an anthem and a food token is very meh, and extremely meh as a commander.

The table I played at discouraged cEDH combos and had a healthy number of kill spells so commanders that were cheap that get under the radar are exactly that sort that work. I played Brago flicker but it wouldn't stay on the board long enough to flicker anything

Color imbalance really needs to be fixed. BG, BW, UW, UR all consistently get way too powerful shit. W, G, R all consistently get overpowered timmies that end up being spammed in the reanimator or cheat-into-play decks.
Don't even get me started on the colorless non-artifacts or how everything after 2015 did nothing but completely destroy the game there. And that Eldrazi shit really ruined it too.

>>96383696
WOTC gave up on their own lore after war of the spark. They've just been phoning it in since then.

>>96383838
In the world of cards that go under the radar, there's plenty that go under the radar but are actually good, rather than just go under the radar because they're trash.

It's the difference between a stealth bomber, which appears to be about the size of a pigeon on radar, and... a pigeon.

>>96383840
Colorless should be supported and encouraged the true problem here is Izzet generating the most obnoxious and cheating play patterns and Azoriua making control boring and unbereable.

If they don’t stop making Red and Blue this retarded they will end killing the rest of colour like already did with Green

Remember when opposing colors were supposed to be hard to play? I.e. the whole concept of opposing colors being that they were thematically opposite so you had to do a lot of work to play those colors together instead of just being given everything allied colors were?

>>96383702
>no rebuttal
not surprised, stay in your containment thread bitch

>>96383877
Wizards hasn't given a shit about color cohesion for a long time

>>96383877
That never happened. Hell, we've had equal dual-lands all the way back to Alpha.

>>96383773
I honestly forgot about that card but that's a definite consideration.

>>96383869
No. Colorless should not be supported. Opposing colors should also lose support.
>Azoriua
One of the problems with Azorius is that JotC has always had the problem of given white every single answer to every single permanent type. So pair it with blue whose playstyle tends to be either combo or mostly reactive. And then you add in the Guild theme from Zendikar and you get the worst fucking archetype to play against. Just sit back doing nothing.

>>96383980
Disagree Eldrazi are great and Colorless is something that should be supported, with Artifacts, PWs, Myr and Eldrazis.

Is good and fun instead of for example the red bullshit that we have nowadays

>>96383924
>Hell, we've had equal dual-lands all the way back to Alpha.
After revised cycled it generally wasn't the case. Considering standard only and not vintage/legacy the dual lands were a non-factor most of the time.
>fetch lands
Didn't get them until Zendikar
>pain lands
Were only in allied colors before apocalypse. The closest thing you got before that was the tapped versions in torment.
>tainted lands
Were the only option for Black/___ color combinations in torment.

Typically you had to run something like City of Brass, grand colessium, and some limited charge land to make dual color with opposing colors work which is why it required much more work to play. Moreover, for three color, there were no opposing color options for lands. Often opposing color decks would leverage green to fetch those needed colors out of your deck. Whereas allied dual colors were always getting shock lands.

>>96381516
laws of physics

>>96384070
You can agree to be wrong then. Eldrazi is part of why the game started to break in the original Zendikar block. Just blatant over the top power creep that ruins the game for everyone else since the same expansion ended up giving you everything you need to cheat them into play while all the rare and mythic ones get some absurd on cast abilities that can't be countered in formats without stifle. Eldrazi were a disaster.
>Artifacts
Should be the only colorless options.
>Myr
Are artifacts. That being said, Mirrodin and its consequences have been a disaster for MTG.
>PWs
Also a disaster given that most of the time the only way to beat them is to have creatures in play and half of them get counters for producing creatures.

>>96384075
>shock lands
Sorry. Meant pain lands.

>>96383980
>Azorius
>Just sit back doing nothing.
tell me you didn't play against cawblade without telling me

serious question to all of you boomer fags: why is green allowed to be literally dead and you have since eldraine 1 what seems to be an absolute cascade of disgusting and pushing red cards? I mean yesterday we saw embercleave, and the thing has gone scalating goldspam dragon, ob nixilis, slickshot, raptor, ember heart, cutter, vivi… what’s the problem with balance in this game?

nobody show this to the white schizo

I’m an 90% confident the following IPs will get UB sets

Elder Scrolls
The Witcher
Game of Thrones/A song of Ice and Fire
Warhammer 40k (full set this time)

>>96384172
How this absolute pile of stinking shit could win in a format with Vivi and Cutter? And Mice? What the fuck anons?

>>96384172
>>>Pioneer

>>96384197
Thalia fucks up Vivi/Cutter decks just by existing

>>96384120
Cawblade in standard, especially after the Kor ban, was still mostly a sit there do nothing deck until you have enough lands or your opponent is topdecking type of thing.

>>96384172
>cavern
blue card
>mutavault
colorless card
>giant killer and guardian of thraben
lol, absolute monkeys on a typewriter tier shit

>>96384172
>>96384197
I got the matchup spread from twitter

>>96384172
White Schizo? Your response?

>>96384269
fuck
here it is

>>96384133
Balance is not a priority of the development team anymore. There's just not enough time. In 2010 WotC released 689 new cards. In 2024 they released over 2,000 new cards. Meanwhile the R&D team has not tripled in size afaik, so they are laying tracks while the train is coming at full speed. The same cards also have to work in wildly different formats (standard, draft but also commander) which wasn't as big of an issue back then.

>>96384256
Is Thalia being reprinted in Standard?

>>96384297
Read anon, it was a pioneer event

>>96384297
>Standard
>Cutter and Mice
pick one

>>96384172
It is funny to me that Pioneer is always at its best when nobody is paying attention to it.

>>96384172
where's thaliafag?

I wish I could fuck thalia in the pussy.. that's about it

>>96384333
Nah. Format really needs at least 5 bans and 2 unbans:
Fable
Treasure
Cutter
Rage
Nemesis
Ballista
Uro

And that's just for the format to START being playable.

>>96384192
The Matrix
James Bond
Resident Evil
Dragon Ball

>>96384386
They would do Dragon Ball but likely can’t get the IP rights. Same with One Piece due to its card game

>>96384400
Reminder that FF also has a card game. Not only that, they did a dual-promo-card collaboration.

>>96384192
I really would like to see:
Star Trek (just for the massive laughs)
Elder Scrolls/Fallout (another shit on the mountain of Bethesda)
Silent Hill that other anon mentioned (just to see how they deal with the "dark shit" like abuse and etc.)
Dragon Ball (another big laugh)

>>96384192
>Elder Scrolls
Very unlikely. The Elder Scrolls rarely does crossover material. Bethesda is largely insular and despises sharing its licenses.
>The Witcher
I have no ability to judge this.
>Game of Thrones/A song of Ice and Fire
More likely than Elder Scrolls, but still not likely. GRRM is not easygoing with Game of Thrones as a property, and HBO doesn't care too much about tie-ins.
>Warhammer 40k (full set this time)
Probable.

>>96384444
Bethesda (cough Microsoft) already let them do fallout retard. Everything you said is wrong kill yourself now

>>96384444
>Bethesda is largely insular and despises sharing its licenses.

>>96384444
>Bethesda
is now Microsoft's bitch. That means if Microsoft ever tells them to do an MTG set, they'll do it. Hell. Keep in mind that there is a FALLOUT commander set.

The Bible UB

>>96384473
It would be all upside for Bethesda, basically advertising for Elder Scrolls 6 and making some cash on the side

>>96384483
My Ass UB.

>>96384491
Biggest set ever made, but it will be full of shit

>>96384444
They're doing some shit Jon Snow mobile game, I don't think an MTG set is beneath them

>>96384462
>>96384464
>>96384473
Here's the trick:
Bethesda doesn't consider Fallout to be its property.

>>96384420
very fuckable boyy

>>96378523 (OP)
How do I improve this?

>>96384798
>green timmy deck
By deleting it.

>>96384798
crazy that you managed to draft mono green like that

>>96384192
Witcher feels more likely as a Secret Lair or Commander precons if anything. A full set seems too much.

>>96384798
Are you playing in Standard or Historic?

If historic, I'd say doubling up on your mana dorks. Add one more Llanowar Elves, and a set of Elvish Mystics. If standard, a set of four mana dorks like Hardbristle Bandit, Rootrider Faun or Three Tree Rootweaver

You have a lot of one-of-a-card and two-of-a-cards in your one mana and two mana slots. I'd say cut the ankle biters, herd heirloom, Bristly bill, Bristlepack Sentry, and Nessian Hornbeetle.

Also Pugnacious Hammerskull and Ornery Tumblewagg,

>>96379096
Why is he a goblin is the better question.

>>96379096
new Krenko

>>96385023
Because he's not strictly human anymore. There's literally a Goblin Formula that empowers but also turns people a bit crazy. Basically every Goblin has it (I'm not sure if Hobgoblin does actually) and that's why they're capable of tangling with Spidey and the like. By Marvel's standards, they're Goblins.

>>96383686
>>96383686
What about Alpha40?

>>96385062
When the fuck did that happen?

That's kinda like how Spider Man doesn't make web fluid in a lab anymore.

>>96384172
>Mutavault
Fake White

>>96385118
nta but pretty sure the goblin formula stuff has been around for a while, even I've heard of it and I'm not into comics at all
it's basically the same reason all the spidermen have the spider typing

>>96385118
It's been a thing since... Lemme check... Yeah, 1966, the 40th issue of Amazing Spider-Man, where we get the Green Goblin's whole origin story proper.

Is it good to run a Sylvan Library in the Sideboard of a Premodern Goblin deck? What's the downside on it and how come I don't see people using it?

reminder to bully energy players

>>96385304
According to mtgtop8 it's the 9th most popular premodern card in the past 3 months
Or did you mean why don't you see people using it in goblin decks?
Slow and off color

>>96385442
>Or did you mean why don't you see people using it in goblin decks?
This.
How is it slow? Most Goblin decks splash green.
And using it as a Sideboard card seems pretty nice if you usually take out the Ringleaders, no?

I don't think it's possible to revive competitive Standard IRL as long as Arena exists. The same thing has happened in yugioh with Master Duel, everyone quit the TCG.

As someone who is okay at draft I can basically build every deck in Standard and haven't spent as much money as I could on a single deck IRL-and I can play whenever I want. It would be financially insane to buy into paper standard

>>96383838
>the people I play with are faggots
Cool dude

>>96385469
>How is it slow?
It's not a goblin.
A goblin in hand is better than a goblin next turn.
A goblin on the draw is better than an enchantment that does nothing upon entering.
It's also is a dead reveal for Goblin Ringleader.
>Most Goblin decks splash green.
What do they splash most often for?
Naturalize (MD), Tranquil Domain (SB), Caller of the Claw (SB).
All specific answers. What would Library answer? Discard? Control? Just go faster than them.
Alternatively, be the change you want to see. Run a Library for a month or three and see how it tracks against running without it.

>>96384294
Let’s act like every set isn’t the same exact shit with a slightly new spin. Warp was basically adventure. Void was just another trigger.

The actual card functions was exactly the same as about 15 other sets. Blue has shit that taps and enchants, black has actual removal, whatever whatever.

They knew cutter was pushed that’s why it got alt art. It’s not hard to figure out if your explicitly pushed thing is over the top. It makes swiftspears and gives them trample. Every turn. No shit that would probably be a problem if you also get rid of all the good instant speed removal at the same time.

Im coming back to MTG after a long time. I look at cards like Healer's Hawk or Hinterland Sanctfier and think... isnt it too much?
Im not saying they are OP or anything (which in itself should be worrying), but 1 mana didnt use to be loaded like this.

>>96385633
hehehehahahahahahaa

I feel like they should have made Appa a Bison Beast. Like, he's clearly not JUST a bison, throw in the Beast type to cover whatever the fuck else he's mixed with.

>>96385633
healers hawk was originally printed in like 2018

>>96385673
might as well make him a shapeshifter if you're going to put every tribal tag on him

>>96385673
flying

b i s o n

>>96385733
And Momo's a "flying lemur", with no mention of any other animal description in the show, but he's clearly part bat, something they put on his cards.
>>96385719
>if you're going to put every tribal tag on him
I'm... not? I just said one, generic type: Beast.

>>96385752
sorry, "winged lemur".

>>96385752
tell me which 6 legged mammal you think appa might a hybrid of

>>96385663
Dang
>>96385714
Last I played was like 2010, I guess times have changed long ago.

>>96385793
Tell me where the extra set of wings come from in otter penguins.
Also, how did you miss the point of my post so badly? The entire reason I suggest the generic Beast is because the anatomy of flying bisons is generically weird. Like, is that a beaver tail? Platapus tail? And what's with the stripes? We don't know. So, Beast.

>>96385807
>2010
You just missed some of the strongest 1 drops ever

>>96385793
Something with foot pads at least, because Appa's legs and feet look NOTHING like actual bisons.

>>96385673
He should have been an Ox.

>>96385822
You might be able to convince me that Appa is supposed to be half panda.

>>96383427
I would never put such a vile piece of cardboard into any Ishkanah, Blex or Swarmweaver deck, let alone commander deck. It already pains me to have Mirkwood Bats in my Blex commander deck, but at least they're just bats so it's easy to ignore the fact that it's UB.

I feel the call of magic after not playing since RTRTR but god damn I do not want to rejoin the game. I miss it in my bones but it just looks so shit now.

>>96385304
Totally reasonable choice. There are a few devotees that already run it, but fewer and farther between. There are some foods for thought
>is not a goblin that attacks, can be tutored off matron, or found off ringleader (this is the downside)
>fetches and matron give a shuffle for changing top 3 to see more cards
>goblins doesn't have good 2 drops besides piledriver, it fills an awkward mana slot (this is probably the strongest argument for Sylvan) that people argue should be a Rishadan Port activation
>you can sideboard juke opponents who pull out their enchantment removal when facing 30 creatures deck
>greatly improves the oath match up by reducing number of creatures while simultaneously helping you find enchantment removal, good for finding non-gob sideboard pieces in general like tranquil domain against enchantress. Actually useful against other decks unlike other sideboard Oath tech and giga meme card Threaten
>you can afford to pay the 8 life against control and combo decks and turbo charge your hand
Sylvan Library doesn't see wide spread play for a couple reasons. Goblins is a former standard deck and there are a lot of cumbrain boomers in the format. Sylvan Library is very firmly a sideboard tech and most people are bad at building and using sideboards. Goblins wins without Sylvan Library which begs the question "why bother?" from lazy format invading zoomers. The card has some synergies in goblins and brings a very high floor, and a lot of people don't respect a high floor card but instead build around christmasland hands with turn 3 aggro kills with no interaction.
If you really want to scratch your noggin though, I'll tell you that black red goblins is actually performing better than red green goblins. If you can Cabal Therapy, give it a try. Dralnu's Crusade is such a great fucking card against Engineered Plague that I'm considering making the switch.

>>96386504
*sharts out a 1-drop that wins the game if it survives to end step*
Clean it up, janny.

>>96386536
Really good post, man. I deeply appreciate it.
>greatly improves the oath match up by reducing number of creatures while simultaneously helping you find enchantment removal, good for finding non-gob sideboard pieces in general like tranquil domain against enchantress.
This was mainly my thought behind it, honestly. I figured since I would be taking out the Ringleaders most of times when putting in Sideboard for games 2 and 3, why not also add a Sylvan Library to make up for the loss on card draw.
Granted that I need to test it out a bit more and see if it actually pays off, but my line of thought was pretty much as you described. Hoping that with the Sylvan Library I would be able to find enchantment removal easier and also make up for the card draw. Plus it's almost certain that other decks will take out their enchantment removal when they Sideboard against Goblins, so it's pretty set in stone that the Library will remain on play for most of the time.
Finally, regarding what you just said about Black Red Goblins, I also too agree that they are stronger, specially in post-sideboard games since Black cards like Perish, Gloom, Planar Void, and like you mentioned, Cabal Therapy and Dralnu's Crusade are so good. In fact, it almost becomes difficult on what to actually choose to use on Sideboard when you get access to so many good cards.
I haven't made the switch and I don't think I will since I've invested way too much into the Green splash variant, but I do recognize that life could be easier sometimes were I in the Black one instead.

does outplaying a red troglodyte make me a smart player

I have combo kill next turn but no way to protect it from removal so if red holds up a lightning strike he can win, but I haven't revealed any pieces yet
he swings in with a screaming nemesis and slickshot showoff, I have a bounce off in hand, he casts a pre-combat boltwave and attacks in for 6
he passes after blockers without casting any more instants to pump up slickshot and has 2 mana open, his attack isn't lethal and he's slow rolling

so I unsummon his nemesis instead of slickshot. Clearly the lesser target with his mana open and ability to pump it up
sure enough he pops 2 red instants for extra gosu burn damage at my face but it isn't lethal
I untap and win while he's tapped out

>>96386564
What you board out depends on the match up. It will never be "always board Ringleader for Sylvan". For example, against counterspells ringleader hurts because they will trade a 2 mana counterspells for a 4 mana Ringleader, but against discard ringleader is a great draw off the top that will put you back into the game. Against both counter control and discard control the Sylvan will be coming in, but one of these matches wants Ringleaders. In pretty much every match you're the beatdown as goblins, but you will still want the option to flip on a more resource oriented game instead of speed oriented.
BR Gobs is arguably stronger than GR even before sideboarding due to Cabal Therapy being a more "live" draw than Naturalize. It hits a wider selection of targets for a cheaper cost, and can snag multiples from a single cast, and the flashback is an expensive but worthwhile option. It can't solve problems after they resolve so you have to be more proactive and know decks (knowing when to strike with it) but it is hands down the strongest black card available. Also yeah black has a lot of good sideboard options that are dummy easy to make work, and its easy to know when to sideboard them in.

>>96386504
You just need to find a way to play you enjoy like cube or something.

ATLA will be a huge broken shit right?

>>96387206
Yes but only once strixhaven 2 is released

>>96387231
I can’t believe they will add Lessons again but NOT Learn.

>>96387239
Learn will return but they're going to peg it to being a creature based ability again

Did you notice a trend with
>Mount
>Station
>Crew
>Harmonize
>Behold

Its simple, its going to be:

>Quench with sets mechanic {1U}
>Instant
>Research 2 (You may tap any number of untapped creatures you control with power 2 or greater. If you do, Learn)
>Counter target spell unless its controller pays {2}. If this was spell was researched, counter it unless they pay {4} instead.

>>96380258
Blame abandoning of blocks, and thus coherent design themes between two-three next sets.
Block structure was literally what was keeping MTG together.

>>96387321
Blocks were a financial disaster anon. WotC was aware of this and killed such structure. This is a business in the end and Blocks were a shit no one actually cared about, imagine a whole year of Aetherdrift lmao.

>>96387348
>Blocks were a financial disaster anon.

>Successfully sustainable for decades
>Disaster
ok, Mark
Go gaslight your sockpuppets on Tumblr some more.

New player here looking for some advice on a dumb casual list. Here's what I have so far:

Fight Rigging
2 Monster Manual
3 Commune with Beavers
3 Llanowar Elves
Poison the Blade
2 Owlbear Shepherd
2 Dread Linnorm
Stormkeld Vanguard
Ancient Bronze Dragon
Earthquake Dragon
2 Giant Ankheg
Dungeoneer's Pack
Find//Finality
Vogar, Necropolis Tyrant
Tetzimoc, Primal Death
Demon of Loathing
2 Ghost Lantern
Order of Midnight
Fell Horseman
3 Fight On!
2 Sign in Blood
Beseech the Mirror
3 Overkill
Murderous Rider
2 Doom Blade
Cast Down
Gix's Command

The idea is just to play Monster Manual, then start playing big things over and over. I need to trim the fat somewhere, anyone have suggestions?

standard is not okay

>>96387703
How would you fix this? After fixing the power level of the format I mean…

>>96387759
This game is just dead, dude.
It's like this in all formats. If you go second it's simply over.
They've printed such broken creatures at 1 and 2 mana backed up by so many retarded fucking 1 mana pump spells and so many ways of mana fixing and cheating, so now you lose if literally any 1 drop lives or you lose to your opponent having turn 7 on turn 2. There is no way of fixing this outside of banning over 100 cards, and they aren't doing that.
They can't even print answers because the threats are so strong that the answers would be shit like Solitude in Standard, which would just make the game giga AIDS to play. It's already more on-rails, coin-flippy, and deterministic than it's ever been. This shit is not fun anymore and hasn't been for a long time.

>>96387703
looks logical to me t:MaNo

>>96387759
Player who goes second on top of drawing 1 extra card may begin the game putting 1 basic land from their hand onto the battlefield tapped

>>96387850
>magic is so fucked it needs the coin from shitstone
L M A O

>>96387239
Why?

>>96387938
It's actually a genuinely good design.
I would put it as the player who goes second starts with a treasure token, but yeah.

>>96387978
That's even more like the coin.
Instead of putting the coin in Magic as a literal cope mechanic to brush past all the broken shit, why not remove the broken shit and start firing some faggots? Because the coin is just going to encourage more broken shit.
The game didn't have people winning 80% of the time on the play before, and even if it went back to 50-50 it wouldn't change that this shit is legitimately just no longer fun. Every card is so buffed and does so much that it feels like you have no choices.

in a two player turn based game, who goes first always has advantage

>>96388017
>55% is the same as 75%
shut the fuck up gaynigga

>>96387759
recursive removal
blockers
2-for-1 interaction
free spells that are ONLY reactive

Palace-Guard Elite {W}
Creature - Human Soldier
Defender
When this creature enters, gain 2 life
Whenever one or more creatures attack you, you may pay {W}. If you do, return this creature from your graveyard to the battlefield.
2/2

Lost in the Hills {UW}
Instant
Target player exiles an attacking creature they control, then returns another attacking creature they control to its owner's hand.

Interrogate {R}
Instant
Interrogate deals 2 damage to target creature. Investigate.

Culling Blade {2B}
Instant
Overexert (To cast this spell, you may put any number of stun counters on tapped lands you control to add that much mana of any color that land could produce)
Exile target creature or planeswalker.

>>96388102
>to fight the broken shit we need more broken shit
Bro come on

>>96388137
Yes but not a single one of these broken shit spells helps your win condition
Even the recursive 1 drop can't be triggered on your own so you can't sac it like gravecrawler

That's what we need
NOT grief, not anything like fucking grief, where your wincon is to ephemerate it on turn 1

>>96388102
>you cast your shitty 1 mana shock that makes a clue
>I pump my prowess nigger that goes to 3 toughness and then laugh in your face or I play inside out on my rat and it deals damage to you anyway while putting man eater bug on the field facedown and it can flip into another prowess nigger next turn and dunk you, you don't know
It's just all fucked.

>>96388214
They would run burst lightning instead and shoot your face

Murmut the Equalizer {1G}
Legendary Creature - Frog Noble (R)
Companion - Your deck contains no creature cards with mana value 2 or less.
At the beginning of the game, if you aren't the starting player and Murmut is your companion, you may put him into your hand.
Defender, reach
When Murmut enters, you gain 4 life.
2/4

>Print good interaction
>Make less bullshit creatures
>Favor other playstyles besides AGGRO
>Stop the rhythm of sets so Standard doesn’t have to escalate this quickly and this crazy
These are the measures Magic should apply but Cocks , Nosewater and the faggots in charge will never do it

>>96388481
This would just instantly unseat Borion and the gay deer in every control deck and instead of cancer aggro you have cancer control. People forget how busted control cards are too because the aggro shit is just more busted. It's all busted.
70% of the game would be control decks running Pepe the Frog until WotC bans it when some dude wins an FNM with his Pepe altered frog deck and it gets posted on reddit because Pepe is a racist chud.

>>96388496
Good.

Fucking good. Bring back control cancer. Bring back 30 minute long back and forth matches. Pepe would be absolutely fucking worthless in control mirrors, unlike Yor-Ion Cannon who suddenly vomits ass tons of card advantage and puts a lethal threat on board and cheats out overlords.
You know whats 100x worse than a control mirror long game? A game that goes like this;

>t1 aggro threat
>t1 oppp tapland
>t2 aggro threat, opp concede

which is something like 20% of all games played in standard right now

Imhotep, the Pacient {4U}
Legendary Creature- Zombie Cleric
Companion- Your starting deck doesn’t contain creature cards in it
At the beginning of the game, if Imothep, The Pacient is your companion, your life total increases to 27
When you cast a instant or sorcery spell copy that spell, you can choose new targets for the copy

Leyline of Mald Out Aggro Tards
Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
Creatures without flying can't attack you

>>96378523 (OP)
>TQ
In practice, proliferate. In concept, I'm torn between banding and provoke. In general, I don't want keywords to ever be put onto a legendary creature that says "draw a card" or "make a treasure token" whenever the keyword is applied, EDH has enough slop as is.

>>96378523 (OP)
>What is your favorite keyword?
Motherfucking Indestructible.
Favorite card? Darksteel Plate.

It's funny when you show people who quit playing Magic years ago a card like Screaming Nemesis and they just go "what the fuck."

>>96388970
>doesn't go "dies to doom blade"
fake fans

>>96388970
just block it :^)

How many people actually care about the lore/story of Magic?
Anyone here actually read any of the books?

>>96389052
I read the Artifacts Cycle way back when. Of them, The Brothers' War is the only one I'd consider an actual good book.

>>96388970
Is fun cause the last trend of "Creature" design seems to be: "Unable to block it (Nemesis, Slickshot, Scholar, Hellkite) or Overvalue on it (Emberheart, Vivi, FOMO, Tersa) I love it. Meanwhile Combo and Control are completely non-existent.

i will keep calling prodern players niggers
Fuck your ai training data

>>96389052
i read the original kamigawa cycle and that one homelands comic like 15 years ago they were ok from what i remember
beyond that i dont think ive ever really followed the story beyond art/flavour text and even that i kinda tuned out on once everything started to revolve around jace and friends

>>96389094
>Meanwhile Combo and Control are completely non-existent.
Yeah, I can't believe they banned this guy from standard when the deck for it didn't even exist.

>>96389052
Is there books?
I only like for weird ass looking creatures
I hate all names human characters

>>96389094
>Meanwhile Combo and Control are completely non-existent.
Azorius Control is the third most popular archetype in standard..

>>96389139
did you just not fucking play the game

>>96389139
The flavor text is racist in so many levels leftist are worst than b shitposters holyshit

>>96389052
Pretty much nobody, even here. I genuinely don't believe there's been any point throughout the game's lifespan where investment into the main story has given worthwhile returns for wotc. The worldbuilding for individual planes, sure. But never the overarching meta plot. It's no surprise they're scrapping the whole thing for UB.

>>96389159
>the joke
>your head

>>96389191
SARCASM DOESN'T FLY IN TEXT FORMAT

gee lets play control

>opponent plays a 4/1 creature with ward - discard a card
>for 2 mana

>>96389217
I answer it for 1 mana, next

>>96389217
mmmmmbyroglasm

>>96389219
Turn 1 Swamp, Cecil, your go

>>96389266
I answer it for 1 mana, next

>>96389266
>he played a creature that hurts himself
Go off chief.

yeah!!! control and combo are so playable!!!
just look at the last tourneys!! oh and i'm sure we will see how orlando is taken by those archetypes!!! surely we will not have a new izzet top 8 moment right fellow magic frendos!?

>>96389052
anyone who lived through the jacetice league era and still considers themselves sincerely "invested" should be institutionalised. there's a reason the only thing they could think of to depict the archetype for that one unfinity card was
>DAE H*CKIN NICOL BOLAS?????

>>96389298
If you want to complain about vivi cauldron, go off. But trying to paint saboteur and cecil as the reason control is weak right now is laughable.

>>96389144
Part of the reason fat packs were made was to have somewhere to put tie-in novels. Generally the ones from that era aren't very good, but I kinda like the first Mirrodin one for some of its prose.

>>96389298
https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/nrg-series-10k-standard-showdown-tournament-209465
Looks like it made it top 4 to me, oh wait you're the type of illogical who thinks only the winning deck is playable

>>96389266
>>96389353
will see you next week faggots, when you are here crying about how the game is ruined and i will remind you how good control and combo are.

>>96389370
bot post can't follow a conversation, turing test failed

Saboteur is good? Wtf

>>96389464
did you think it wouldn't be?

>>96389436
aggro tard typical braindead behaviour

>>96389467
Buffing your opponent bad

>>96389511
>give your opponent's creature +1/+1
>it still dies to doomblade
holy hell

>>96389511
4 damage turn good, and a ward as annoying as Tresspaser.

i wish she was good

>>96389691
The Cabbage Merchant fixes her

Dear autistic tryhards,
Stop trying to ruin Commander by asking for wishboards in it. Forcing everyone to run an extra 15 cards just because you want to run blowout cards like Rest In Peace against GY decks won't make the game more enjoyable. Nobody likes sideboards and they don't add anything to the game.

Sincerely,
Every Commander player ever

>>96389711
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-based

>>96389711
erm the memeander general is 3 threads over bro

>>96389711
>Cummander
This is not your place fucking fake Magic player.
Someday we will get rid of your kind or at least contain you in your own gulag of casual idiots.

>>96389711
based not playing to win magic player

>>96389711
>you want to run blowout cards like Rest In Peace against GY decks won't make the game more enjoyable. Nobody likes sideboards and they don't add anything to the game.
so you want to play hearthstone? bo1? lol

>>96389820
forgot my post: What do you think of this as a hate card for all the unfair exile cards they've printed over the past few years?

>>96389711
Your rube goldberg graveyard deck will not, in fact, work today

Get gud

>>96378899
at this point I believe MaRo is just an old man yelling at clouds while his coworkers are like get with the times old man, doing everything wrong.
the amount of times gavin saying "but it wasnt fun so we said fuck it" in recent years has been staggering.

>>96389820
I would make this an artifact period.
Creatures are easy to deal with.
But is barely playable i must say.

>>96389877
I debated between making it a one cost artifact or an artifact creature with ward. Maybe a one mana creature with lower stats

>>96389826
The only cards this matters against lose to Vexing Bauble anyway. Your design is stupid because it fills a niche that doesn't exist.

>>96389711
>nooooooooooooooooooo you have to let me win you cant just heckin stop it with basic interaction!!!!!
Genuinely why are commander players like this?

>>96390083
they like the idea of magic but hate actually playing it and just want to goldfish their ebic combos while 3 other people are forced to watch (stare at their phones until they get their next turn in 20 minutes)

>>96390125
I wish it was combos, for me it's anything but generic tribal midrange

>>96381183
It's ribbonfag. Of course he's stupid.

>>96390083
coomander crew will never understand the depths of tactical/complex deck building: too much interaction? you hurt his fee fees so that's why interaction in standard is shit nowadays, silver bullets? you are making the rest feel bad by completely destroy their strategies so that's why people nowadays just play aggro (cast creature, smash face), counters, wraths, land destruction or mill? you are making the game take long and also make people feel bad so that's a no-no too.

coomander pamper the lowest common denominator of casuals, it's a shame is also the people willing to "spend" money on magic.

>>96390188
>aggro (cast creature, smash face)
can't do that, it's "unfun" to hit someone before they vomit a million tokens and do nothing for two hours

>>96389711
You play commander with tryhards that make wishboards to get consistent answers for degeneracy.
I play EDH with retards that think it's funny that I can wish for a new equipment for my dudes to beat people up with.

did tarkir dragonstorm sell well

>>96390295
yes, very well. One of the better selling sets.

>>96390295
Peanuts compared to FF

>>96390309
nothing will ever come close to FF
it was the perfect nostalgia-fuel IP for the average age of their player base.

>>96390321
UB Seinfeld will come close

>>96390295
I think it's the best selling recent UW set alongside Bloomburrow.

How far are we are from Ravagan in Standard?

>>96390821
Never, he would outshine UB cards.

>>96390854
just put him on the bonus sheet like some of the ff cards

>>96390869
Oh well then <2 years

Is this the worst burn spell ever?

>>96390945
>Sorcery
Sorcery
>Sorcery
Sorcery
>Sorcery
Can we already eliminate this word from ANY FORM OF INTERACTION unless we are talking about Wraths and Big spells like Invokes? Is so stupid they keep making this.

>>96390945
its sorcery shock that can hit planeswalkers, in an intentionally very low power level sub-set.

>>96390945
That shit should be instant

>>96391055
Anon... shock can already hit planeswalkers

>>96391167
I'm from the universe where it can't

>>96391222
>6 mana
>In the 3/4 turn kill format
Yeah... I don't think that steals shit...

>>96390945
I will play it in standard in my all 1 mana burn deck


4 burst lightning, 4 shock, 4 zuko's offense, 4 plasma bolt, 4 channeled dragonfire, 4 boltwave
4 stock up, 4 consult the star charts, 4 quick study, 4 quantum riddler
20 lands

>>96390945
Anon please look at the text at the bottom on the card.
This isn't going to be in play boosters.
Also, Shock will be in the same Standard thanks to the Spider-Man set. Lightning Strike will be in Avatar's boosters.

>>96391347
>dies to Vivi/Kona
cool, kiddo.

>>96391360
I've got cards to spare ill hit them with 2 shocks

>>96389118
>that one homelands comic like 15 years ago they were ok from what i remember
That comic was worth it for the Rebecca Guay art alone.

>>96391347
Anon... the cards with the air glider set symbol won't be standard legal.

>>96391460
finger slipped top left was supposed to be Zap

>>96389052
I've read a couple of the books and most of the webfiction. It's not the best thing ever but I have tolerance for bad stuff and I've read enough truly garbage stories that I can confidently say the worst Magic has gotten is kind of just "eh", outside of some of the truly terrible books.

>>96391384
I wanna see the guy who tries to DQ someone over using a subpar shock.

As a reminder, these upcoming Spider-Man and Avatar cards will NOT be standard/modern/pioneer legal:
https://scryfall.com/search?q=s%3Aspe%2Ctle&unique=cards&as=grid&order=set&dir=

And these ones WILL be standard/modern/pioneer legal:
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=set&page=2&q=s%3Aspm%2Ctla&unique=cards

>>96389052
I quite enjoyed Arena and thought the greensleeves books were decent.

>>96391699
Whoops, wrong second link.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Aspm%2Ctla&unique=cards&as=grid&order=set

>>96391699
>>96391716
Looking through these, I suddenly realize something: the Avatar cards don't use flavor words.

I really appriciate some of the weird old cards you find while brewing. I love this art.

>>96389052
I've read most urza books.
I've read gatewatch lore.
I don't hate the current loot-valgavoth arc.
Can't pay attention to all the hat sets because too much random named characters. Mtg lore is best when it focuses on planeswalkers, not scrimblo bimblo and his lgbt gang from current thing plane.

>>96391864
>leave four plains open
>show and tell faggot starts sweating
powerful white cards

>>96391767
Can only imagine Timmy's face when this card got doombladed before he could attack with it

I hope Spiderman flops. Speaking of flops, did Edge of Eternites flop?

So rate Duskmourn. Was it good or not? Humans ruined it but the monster designs were good.

did we get MTG spoilers already?

>>96392850
No, we haven't gotten Lorwyn spoilers yet.

>>96392850
No, Return to Strixhaven is still few weeks ahead.

>>96392850
EoE just came out why do you want spoilers

>>96392829
I don't know when Magic died, but Duskmourn is when I really felt like "This isn't Magic anymore."

I think it was this card.
Yes, I get it. You have to pay extra if you don't just want Black and White.

But, it's a television.
It's a television on a Magic card.
A stupid television with lots of weird shit and pointless details that make it look like it was AI generated, but still, a television.

A television. A goddamn television.
I'm not even sure why, out of all the stupid cards Magic has printed in recent years, this is the one that broke me. Maybe because it's half-way being an Un-card, while being in a main set?

>>96392923
And don't forget the bullshit lie of 'technology' being why we couldn't have 'le evil gunz' in the fucking cowbody set

Reminder that Mark said one of the sets for this year would have Battles in it (before Lorwyn got pushed back).
Between SPM and TLA spoilers not having any battles, it's looking grim for Lorwyn.

>>96392923
I hated the theme of Bloomburrow, aetherdrift and Duskmourn. Magic might as well have been dead to me during that entire run. Tarkir and FF were a relief because then at least you're getting kick in the ass instead of the balls.

>>96392964
>Bloomburrow
Fuck you, Redwall is fantasy

>>96392964
bloomburrow is the most magic-like set they've done in years

>>96392961
Battles are cool though

>>96392964
>Gay dragon sex is real Magic

>>96392996
There's no gay dragon sex here.

There is no gay dragon sex in Ba Sing Se

are there dragons in Avatar?

>>96393080
Yup, pretty good chance we get one as a card since they're the focus of an episode or two.

>>96393080
Yes but not in Ba Sing Se

>>96393080
Yes, they taught the original firebenders how to firebend

expect to see one for the same reason we have a
bagermole card, as they taught the first earthbenders

>>96393105
Man, those are some awful dragon designs.
What is it with people constantly ruining dragons?

C'mon now. It's not hard.
1. Just don't make them look like shit.
2. You're done.

>>96393418
The only issue with them is the half ass attempt to merge asian and european styles, if they didn't have the wings it'd be just fine.

>>96392923
Fucking RAVNICA had magic-powered radios, Duskmourn having ghost-powered tvs isn't that much more of a stretch.

>>96393540
NOOOOOOO OLD THING GOOD NEW THING BAD

>>96393080
Barely. They're all but extinct, because the Fire Nation adopted a practice of killing one to obtain the title of "Dragon". The only ones we see are these two >>96393105, which stay in hiding, and two others seen in flashbacks.

Dragons are the origin of firebending, from which ancient human firebenders learned from. Badgermoles (giant fucking moles) are the earthbending origin, sky bison (like Appa) are the airbending origin, and the moon is the waterbending origin.

>>96392923
>I don't know when Magic died
Lorwyn

>>96393367
love your implication that we're going to get a card of the moon
like, just the moon, not any moon spirits

>>96393600
they already had that in EoE

>>96392923
>I don't know when Magic died, but Duskmourn is when I really felt like "This isn't Magic anymore."
Wow really? Pic related wasn't the moment you say mmmm something is wrong? Because all things considering MKM doesnt had cool monsters to save it.

>>96393769
what's wrong with this

>>96393817
really? anon... i...

>>96393859
use your big boy words and explain your opinion

>>96393588
>Lorwyn
Masques

>>96384172
>>96384277
Okay then, put up the same results at a major tournament or SCGcon instead of some kike ass online tournament of scrubs in a forgotten format.
Oh wait, you can’t because it folds to the majority meta every time.
Imagine being proud of a random weekend that any other deck can win kek

>>96393868
Nta but the original one:
>Art is hideous and i mean like one of the worse arts i have seen literally seems made with AI
>Mechanics are boring tokens tokens
>Detective? I will forever dispise that shit
I don't know if you are satisfied with these "words" but that i have to explain should be enough to bran you as an huge retard and obviously explain why MKM was miles worse than DSK

>>96393959
i wonder will pioneer return by 2026? and if the format comes back will they make changes to it?

MARK NO!!!
https://www.tumblr.com/markrosewater/792519114102063104/i-am-going-to-print-nadu-as-companion-and-there-is-nothing-you-can-do

>>96393979
looks fine to me

>>96394004
holy shit that's a threat if I've ever seen one

>>96394004
>we're gonna make companions look like a fucking joke

>>96394058
>feeling nostalgic yet!?
I couldn't see the pic quote in the link tho. I think it goes to a wrong post

>>96394004


Lightning Jolt {R}
Instant - Signature (rare)
Signature Spell - Your deck contains no creature cards. (If this card is your chosen signature spell, you may cast it from outside the game. A starting deck may not contain a signature spell.)
Lightning Jolt deals 3 damage to any target


Spellcounter {UU}
Instant - Signature (rare)
Signature Spell - Your deck contains no non-land, non-instant cards. (If this card is your chosen signature spell, you may cast it from outside the game. A starting deck may not contain a signature spell.)
Counter target spell.

>>96394062
Your newfag is showing, anon-kun.

>>96394004
Lorwynbros… Are we afraid yet?
Also this means finally good interaction will be true?

>>96394004
>be me
>wake up in 2000 thread count egyptian cotton sheets
>put my ethopian coffee into my pure gold coffee press for my two overnight female guests
>sit down to check my 401k, looking more like a 401mil lately
>take a moment to catch up on social sites
>friend sent me a message and link to complain about the new upcoming Magic: the Gathering set
>read briefly
>"what the hell is a lorwyn?"
>feisty blonde tells me to pay it no mind and come back to bed
>in the afternoon, have my chauffer drive me to the monthly Premodern tournament
>play my favorite deck UG Madness in an event for the 451st time

>>96394004
The only problem with companions is they didn't print enough of them. You want o power creep the game to hell by giving you an 8th card in your opening hand? Fine. Just don't be a pussy and commit to it.

>>96394187
This. We need more companions.
Eldrazi companion
Artifact companion
ELF COMPANION
Is time to give this game what it deserves

>>96394189
Dragon companion with art of him shaking his fat ass!

>>96394187
errata every creature to have companion. just change the amount of mana you have to pay in order to put it in hand to what the number of letters in the creature type is instead of flat rate

>>96394004
Doom Sword 2B
Sidekick Sorcery
(You may start the game with up to 15 sidekick face-up cards in your sidekick zone. Any time you would draw a card from your library, you may draw a card from the sidekick zone instead.)
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. You lose 2 life.

>>96394260
>Sorcery
unplayable

>>96394271
No, planeswalkers just became unplayable lul

>>96392917
That was a month ago.

New thread
>>96394574
>>96394574
>>96394574