Thread 96395536

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Previous thread: >>96392972

Post Danmachi.

>>96395568
Retarded races/stats
This author is retarded

Mushoku Tensei > Harry Potter >>> Harbinger > Danmachi >>> Mythic Lands

>>96395633
the races are mostly irrelevant, only detrimental in a few cases like beastmen and constructs where your build will always suck because of the starting stats, but they make it up with the unique traits you get from some of the more powerful ones lower down, like if you pick changeling you don't need magic or spirit to be a shapeshifter so you can just focus on wits and luck instead or something

the thing this author has real trouble with is thematic coherence with the way he uses names in ways that are irrelevant to or outright contradict their usual meaning, but despite that still insists on using cliche names instead of just making up his own, the races partially suffer from this but the body perk names are some real retardation

it's still a good cyoa even if he fails in that area quite badly though

>>96395660
mythic lands > mushoku tensei >>> harry potter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danmachi >>> harbinger

This thread is so much sloppier than the previous one.

>>96396088
Let me ask your favourite cyoa. I know you won't answer.

I merely posted different cyoas due to a certain request. We all know the thread will be overtaken if I post OR first.

>>96396141
Pikachu Cumslut

Italics CYOAs status?

>>96396088
>average Uruk Outsider

>>96396323
>These are the girls that bully you at school.
>You can romance them and make them your harem of lovers.
What in the fuck did Italics mean by this?

>>96396368
I could be wrong, but I think he meant that it makes his penis hard when women are mean to him.

>>96396391
Don't respond to Italics ritualposters.

>>96396391
But, Pasille is his OG waifu character and she's submissive as Zynthia.

>>96396181
A lore question, is this a "sequel" in the sense it uses some stuff from the OUTER TIDE of last time? Or just a new version that starts from zero?

>>96396526
Ew, no, that wouldn't make any sense. If you're even talking about returning builds, I think that Idealist is the only person who even talked about doing that.

>>96396396
>Make a statemenr
>Italicsposters
IDS is real.

>>96396560
https://desuarchive.org/tg/search/text/%22did%20Italics%20mean%20by%20this%22/
>79 results found.

>>96396573
Actively going through the archive is proving the point of the derangement syndrome. A normal ass dude would ignore it and go on about their day, you autist.

>>96395866
Explain? I don't think I've seen someone hate on harbinger in particular before.

Also
harbinger > mushoku tensei > mythic lands = harry potter > (like/dislike threshold) > danmachi

Why is Danmachi hated here

>>96396938
For me it's multiplayer PTSD.

>>96396938
Shitposters. Also it is a mid as fuck setting and the CYOA does nothing to actually to explain the world and has no real characters from it to interact with like all franchise CYOAs.

>>96396938
Everyone takes the same shit and there’s no way of beating someone who takes the spirit fire metamagic combo.

>>96396835
i dislike the power system, hate the idiotic factions, and find the missions extremely out of balance with each other

>>96396938
Because it’s already been solved.

How to solve Danmachi:

1) Take Combat 3 and/or Metamagic
2) Custom make your own god/patron
3) Kill Bell before he gets Realis Phrase

>>96396835
>>96395866
>>96395660
>fairy tail doesn't even get a mention
Can we agree it goes on the bottom of the bottom?

>>96397060
>Kill Bell
But he’s the sole salvation of Orario. He’s the only one who can save it!

>>96397077
agreed

>>96397077
Well no since it at least gets posted here
Danmachi is only posted as a joke

>>96396526
In a meta sense, I'd like to think we're not building for the 11th Seat but the 12th, as we've already went through that story before.

how can anyone enjoy these ultra long 10+ part cyoas

>>96398201
Because I can read

>>96398201
The length seems like a benefit and not a downside for the better ones. I feel happy reading them, and learning more about it from the discussion.

>>96398201
I like when the good ones seemingly continue on and on.

>>96398374
Behold the great creation that is the latest image build of your most talented author and image builder! Witness boundless talent and limitless potential of the greatest creative mind of your time. Take part in the glory that is the art before you and indulge yourself!

Hehehe, you silly cat, why are you in a toilet?

>>96398201
It's only 10 pages. What in the fuck are you talking about? Can you not read 10 pages or something?

>>96396396
>>96396573
Does Italics have any genuine fans if his works or excited about them? Or is it all artificial?

>>96398201
Based CYOAs should not have more than 10 pages

>>96398201
you can only pick so many pills before you get tired of them

>>96398640
Yeah. I've seen them on the streets, the people who took too many pills, and now they're tired, of pills and life and the world

>>96396181
For the sake of identifying legal members of a Tide in an objective format, we're first going to list the appellation of a character and a permalink to their build, then their NPCs in the order shown by the CYOA, and then their Youth and Quest. Events All characters then have a parenthesis explaining their perks and deaths, in that order. Events will not be listed except for By Design. PCs will be indexed by their location and then alphabetically. This is only a catalogue for builds with Outer Tide.

>Contested Territory
>Hexland
Escher (Vedi)
YMRD
Parents: Dei (Dobro), Mitrofan (Yer), "One", The Keter (Dice Fudge, Greater Yus)
Siblings: Frasier (Lyudi), Geiger (Kako)
Mentors: Nezvana (Untimeskip, Iotated Lesser Yus), Leimeie (Untimeskip, Shta), Tenyota (Untimeskip, Yery),
Companions: Eirina of The Orthrung (Dice Fudge) Jdan Ordo-Dorian (Dice Fudge, Tsy), Mlada (Dice Fudge+Ouk), Pukluxun (Dice Fudge, Lesser Yus+Yee), Omega (Ot), Moenath (Yer), Oko Shtorma (Glagoli+Zhivete),
Youth: Leadership Training, Travelling, Profane Lore, Uplifting
Choice: Patientia

>Empire of Light and Dark
>Kingsmour
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96380920
Flagellant Gambler (Kako)
Parents: Mada (Lyudi, Zelo), Afanisiy Sauromat (Cherv+Yee)
Mentor: Leimeie (Tsy), The Keter (Yat)
Youth: Plotting, Profane Lore, Theology, Daemonhunt
Quest: E Nomine

>Mesecerechie
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96392972/#q96393021
Vëe the Dream Librarian (Az)
Parents: Pu'un, Unnotable One (On), Afanisiy Sauromat (Adoption, Qoppa)
Mentors: Feodwra (Izhe), Upunth (Myslete), Zu'us (Tsy)
Companions: Izbor (Izhe), Omega (Ot), Gunter Lilim (Glagoli+Zhivete)
Youth: Treasure Hunting, Journey of the Self, Power Testing, Magical Training

>>96398695
>Dragon King's Most Divine Realm
>Mountains of Autumn
https://rentry.co/r5gabub5
The Jötunnsdrottninggen (Iotated Lesser Yus)
JNPL
Parents: The Horde
Mentors: Gewgrin Aureole
Youth: Travelling, Magical Training
Quest: E Nomine

>City State of Dis
>Dis

Foolish Dreamer (Buki+Zemlya)
YMRD
Parents: Ust (Tsy), Thallan of the Orthrung (Iotated Greater Yus)
Mentors: Upunth (Yest+Yee), Jisilbert (Dice Fudge, Ouk+Zhivete), Gewrgin Aureole
Companions: Evdokia (By Design), Esu (Zelo+Zhivete), Nilmatrix
Youth: Martial Training, Magical Training, Profane Lore, Dungeoneering
Quest: E Nomine

https://rentry.co/CyoaORBuild001
Moonman (Iotated Lesser Yus)
YMRD
Parents: The Horde
Mentors: Jdan Ordo-Dorian (Tsy), Dirk Yesod (Untimeskip, Iotated Greater Yus), Mlada (Shta+Zhivete), Spako, Gwriel (Glagoli)
Companions: Blazhko (True Love, Zelo+Yee), Kalliopa Aureole (True Love, Lesser Yus), Dobrava (Greater Yus)

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96386307/#q96389412
Nightmare Queen (Az)
SRTR
Parents: Phershepa-from-Erebus (Myslette+Yee), Aat, Half-Ascended Thaumiel, (Adoption, Dice Fudge, Zelo+Zhivete)
Mentors: Upunth(Shta+Yee), Seo (Glagoli+Zemlya), Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (By Design)
Companion: Araith (Izhe+Zhivete), Inga Yesod
Youth: Pandaemonium, Magical Training, Martial Training, Leadership Training
Quest: Vanitas

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96392972/#q96398137
Speedster Spider (Lesser Yus)
0^0
Parents: Dryndedh-From-Agartha (Iotated Ouk), Plevaka (Greater Yus, Zhivete)
Youth: Martial Training, Travelling, Dungeoneering, Power Testing
Quest: Patientia

>>96398404
>Isha
I know this is Tok but what the actual fuck

>>96398705
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96392972/#q96394709
Unnotable Lich (Yat+Zemlya)
0^0
Parents: Unnotable One (Iotated Lesser Yus), Unnotable One (Iotated Lesser Yus+Zhivete)
Mentors: None
Companions: None
Youth: Magical Training, Power Testing, Profane Lore, Other (Contact other Outsiders)
Quest: Patientia


https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96382717 [ILLEGAL BUILD: MISSING DEATH ON FOT (A)]
Y'Sereth (Buki+Zemlya)
SRTR
Parents: Fot (???), Ruzhana (Slovo)
Mentors: Feodwra (Shta), Kilyn of the Orthrung, Zlata (Glagoli)
Companions: Caeda of the Doria (Dobro), Ota (Zelo), Zenia
Youth: Leadership, Magical Training, Dungeoneering, Power Testing
Quest: Ameno

>Old Throne
>Poluplato
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96381847
Placeholder (Vedi)
Parents: Ratha of the Orthrung (Nash+Zhivete), Simimar of the Doria (On+Zemlya)
Mentor: Opoia (Iotated Greater Yus, Dirk Yesod <0^0, Upunth> (Yat+Zemlya)
Companion: Evdokia (Lesser Yus), Su'uq, Nilmatrix
Youth: Magical Training, Daemonhunt, Profane Lore, Dungeoneering
Quest: Liberta

>Midoria
https://rentry.co/3amh4xgw
Shirou (Vedi+Zemlya+Yee)
Parents: JNPL, "One"
Mentors: The Keter (Untimeskip, Lesser Yus+Zhivete)
Youth: Martial Training, Magical Training, Leadership Training, Parental Support
Quest: E Nomine

>Archaia, The Kingdom of Kingdoms
>Mamet Interior

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96392972/#q96393938
Okhalorkhan (Az+Zemlya)
JNPL
Parents: The Horde
Mentors: Upunth (Dice Fudge, Zelo), Jdan Ordo-Dorian (Tsy), Ielsiazeh-from-Erebus (Untimeskip, Shta), Pukluxun (Greater Yus), Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (Sha)
Companions: Esu (Iotated Greater Yus+Zhivete), Polkan (Qoppa)
Youth: Magical Training, Martial Training, Power Testing, Plotting
Quest: E Nomine

>>96398716
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Queen of Mamet (Greater Yus)
SRTR
Parents: Simka Citzalo (Qoppa+Zhivete+Yee), Stoyan (Tsy)
Mentors: Tenyota (Cherv'), Spako, Arsak (Shta), Hladvig (Iotated Yest'), Zhuchka (Dobro), Brastat (Glagoli+Yee), Caeda of the Doria (Zelo)
Youth: Theology, Plotting, Journey of the Self, Parental Support
Quest: Fundamentum

>Principality of Stygia
>Stygia
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96392972/#q96393892 [ILLEGAL BUILD: MISSING DEATH ON ZHUCHKA (A)]
The Book of The Damned (Vedi)
YMRD
Parents: Dei (Dobro+Yee), Taexx (Tsy+Yee)
Mentors: Dirk Yesod (Lesser Yus), The Keter (Dice Fudge, Yat), Pukluxun (Ouk), Seo (Shta+Zemlya)
Companions: Zhuchka (???+Zhivete)
Youth: Magical Training, Theology, Travelling, Power Testing
Quest: E Nomine

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96379796
Demonic Nightmare Maker (Vedi)
JNPL
Parents: Dei (Dobro), Pir (Pokoy)
Mentors: Half Ascended Thaumiel (True Love, Dice Fudge, Zelo+Zhivete), Seo (Shta+Zemlya)
Companions: Esu (Iotated Greater Yus), ??? (Izhe+Yee), Baf (Yee+Glagoli)
Youth: Profane Lore, Magical Training, Power Testing, Dungeoneering
Quest: Patientia

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96392972/#q96393951
Qoppa Theta Lyudi (Yat)
YMRD
Parents: Dei (Iotated Ouk), Dryndedh-From-Agartha (Zelo)
Mentors: Dirk Yesod (Yer'+Yee), Feodwra (Tsy)
Companions: Ota (Iotated Az), Izbor (Greater Yus), Baf (Ouk)
Youth: Magical Training, Theology, Profane Lore, Journey of the Self
Quest: Temperentia

>>96398729
>Toybox

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96386307/#q96387386
Father of the Paracausal Arts (Theta)
SRTR
Parents: Aat, Thonodreth-from-Agartha
Mentor: Eirina of the Orthrung, Dirk Yesod , Maou, Half Ascended Thaumiel, Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (Untimeskip),
Youth: Magic Training, Power Testing, Natural Philosophy, Martial Training
Quest: E Nomine

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96381238
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog (Theta)
Parents: Thonodreth-from-Agartha, Aat, "One"
Mentors: Dirk Yesod , Lemeie, Ielziaseh-from-Erebus, Mlada, Rhucuphre-from-Maeve
Youth: [DATA MISSING]
Quest: E Nomine

>>96398404
>Isha
I know this is Tok but holy based

>>96398705
>everyone and their dog starting in Dis
Disgusting

>>96398762
>catfaggot fears the dog
Good.

Any ideas for what Autoantecedent spirit tap does? All I've got is permanent changes or self targeting for ideas. Maybe it works on objects/any script you can touch?

Actually editing the script in detail for anything you can touch does sound very potent. Preprogrammed matter.

Skeletonbros, why is it so dark and cold? I thought the plan would save us

>>96399134
I could also see it allowing you to further specify what they become and apply inherently-magical inborn gifts. Probably with restrictions on how many, since slapping on 20 points worth of gifts feels like a bit too much, but it's a pretty common pattern where adding a limb removes a restriction, and "no inborn gifts" is one of the restrictions on Spirit Tap.

>>96399134
Tank already said that permanent changes are not permissible because its too broken. The most autoantecedence can do is make the change last for hours instead of minutes. I could see self-targeting being ok though.

>>96396181
Final repost.

Name: Krinak, Syn Ufroka
Patron: SRTR
Mother: Phershepa-From-Erebus (Zelo)
Father: Detmoun, Syn Ufroka (Cherv')
Gifts: Attentiveness, Inner Vision x1, Treacherous Palm x1, Last Breach, Warmachina Mounting, Devout Signature, Crooked Caress x1, Look of Chaos x1, Overendurance, Second Wind, Boiling Blood, Bestial Strength, Entrenchement x2
Languages: Simplified Duergar, Late Thulean
Location: Stygia
Mentor: Strokrad (Dobro, Nothing ever Happens)
Companion: Jarnigit ( Yat Zhivete, Playing Traitors), Brastat (Slovo, Full Stomach), Mocnaeth (Pokoy, Breaking and Entering), Baf (Ioated Greater Yus, Wild and Wilder)
Death: Buki
Youth: Martial Training, Travelling, Nothing, Military
Quest: Vanitas

>>96399372
I will tack on the Outer Tide perk to it, since it cost me nothing. And now for flavor...

The Longest March begins anew—a Legacy March. While the world above struggles against the Ecumene, I remain in the Underground, waging my own war. With each step and every kill, I push back the darkness.
Our assault begins with a double strike into the Ecumene’s basement at Midday Crossing. Once we gather there, the march continues toward Tsoshu, then westward. Along the way, we make a detour through Chervolonin—not only to claim the 3/8th's corpse for Baf, but also because it is our inheritance as the heirs of the Longest March.
The road leads to two final adversaries: Dis, and whatever waits below, and then the Second Seat. With my skill at piloting war machina, and with a companion who can forge new ones, the path splits after Parsmunia.
If Vtorusha cannot be reasoned with, then the choice is clear—we fight. It will be Armored Core against the God-Killer Machine, and afterward, I must face Charlotte.
But if the machina can be controlled, then a greater conflict awakens: the Second War of Heaven and Earth. In that struggle, Buki must be fulfilled.
Perhaps I will not survive. But by then the Underground will be cleansed of Nightmare, making half the world habitable once more. From there, the scattered outposts and reclaimed lands can be reforged into something enduring: the Eternal Empire, named for its unyielding, undying nature.

>>96396181
>Vai
>YMRD
>Female
>Halfbreed (Majin/Drow), Adoption x2, Dice Fudge, Extra Companion x3, not made for Outer Tide but you can use her in yours if you want
>Bio Parents: Dei (Iotated Az), Thallan (Lesser Yus)
>Adoptive Parents: Shael, Rhucuphre
>Inherited Languages: Fay (Late Thulean and High Elven are quieted)
>Bought Languages: Everman, Simplified Duergar, Benewhisper
>Dis
>Ethereal Beauty, Agelessness, Memory Retention, Wisdom, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Noble Inclination, All-Glimpse, Autoantecedence: Spirit Tap, Spirit Tap x2, Dream Passage x2, Letters of the Damnned (rolled Psi on 1d45), Daemonhost, Royal Claim
>Thaumiel (Zelo + Zhivete, Things That Shouldn't Be + Remember The Demon), Lyndis (Sha, Legal Terms And Conditions + Crown into the Gutter)
>Esu (Remember About Death, Iotated Greater Yus), Blazkho (Interested and Dissolved Parties, Greater Yus, Mentors: Leimei, Tenyota, Mlada, Dirk Yesod (Emuating Ielziaseh, Eirina, and Feodwra)), [YMRD]
>Other Encounters: Goblins, Hobgoblin, Orcs, Ogres, Troll
>Leadership, Profane Lore, Power Testing, Plotting
>E Nomine
Sometimes, when a long-running setting has over the years become confusing or boring, a reset is the best way forward. You make the reset into a fun story, of course -- you love a good crisis on infinite earths -- but in the end you bring things to a new-but-recognizable baseline, where simpler stories are ready to be told. That's all I'm doing, really, destroying the world. It deals with the usurper, and whatever YMRD comes up with next will be better than *this*.

Rhucuphre has a plan, and more importantly she knows how to hide her schemes from 0^0. I'll start by following in her footsteps, and work from there. Izhitsa as a death letter is another idea, but I have fewer leads in that line of research, so it'll have to wait until I'm older. That's fine; I have time. I meet my Yat by ending the world with me in it, after all.

>>96393021
I didn't notice when auditing you, you can't assign By Design to Omega because it isn't necessary for her.

>>96399431
A shame. Guess she'll go back the boring "Nothing Ever Happens" then? I draw a blank for a suitable Encounter...

>>96399332
Hmm... Temporary Innate trait granting and the ability to self target, so I could give myself True Dragon Solipsism for a while and refresh it every so often?

I'm not sure it fits the build. Might just drop Autoantecedent entirely, I'm just not creative enough for it.

>>96398201
because I have no life

>>96398201
Because I don't have the attention span of a gnat and enjoy roleplaying games in various forms.

Are we still reddicord general or we finally moving on?

>>96400206
let the other kids play sweety
you had your turn

Making a post to mark that this thread is dead because the OR people are still in the other one on the 10th page.

>>96400206
Still being invaded.

>>96400422
the problem was that this thread was made when the other one was still at like page 4 probably because someone didn't like all the OT talk, so this one was forgotten kind of like the tok thread

>>96398201
ADHD is treatable, all you have to do is shoot yourself in the head.

>>96396181
Chronological Build List

A Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394815
Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96371953/#96372789
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381238
Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379443
Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796
The Black Messiah https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96380342
Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96380920
The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847
Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393938
Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96387386
Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021
Demon King of The Dead https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919
Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393069
Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393951
Faina Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394148
Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96394709
Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910
From the ALL https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96396474
Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017
Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248

You who had a thread to yourselves and did nothing with it deserve this.

>>96400456
This is proof that the "talk about something else" posts are shitposts. But we knew that already.

>>96400450
Paracausal here, FYI, updated mine in the other thread.

>>96400507
Link please.

>>96400509
Here ya go

>>96400465

why did so many people pick Dis?

sure the mentor bonus is alright but it is a very small territory that is surrounded by enemies, it is sitting atop a literal nightmarish doomsday device, and other places have better rewards for location restricted encounters

>>96400456
I don't care for outer reincarnation, but I don't mind the thread talking about it. They aren't destroying discussion of another cyoa right now, so this is fine.

>>96400519
Mentor and everman choice
Effectively +2/4

>>96400519
The conglomeration of outsiders in it is a prize of its own.

Is Malice + Omega with Khier just free points in Outer Tide? The moment she gets chosen by someone else and they go for Ot the fate gets overwritten, and nothing really stops anyone from taking out a Malice on a character that already has a Malice so everyone but the one person who actually has Omega as their companion can get 5 points. Plus its not even like the death has to come to pass before we get points, we accept them the moment we apply it to their slot.

>>96396181
>PATRON
0^0
>NAME
Aurum Arc the Golden Finger
>REINCARNATION
Outer Tide
Burn the Past (x18)
Burn the Future (x16)
Burn the Future
Burn the Past
>PARENTS
Unnotable Mother (Nash)
Unnotable Father (On)
>INBORN GIFTS
Nil
>LANGUAGES
Everman
>Location
New New York
>YOUTH
Mercantilism, Profane Lore, Plotting, Uplifting
>MENTORS
Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (Tsy, A Calm and a Storm)
>COMPANIONS
Nil
>DEATH
Buki

Providence? Fate? Chance? Causality? Spare me the poetry—what I want is MONEY. And I’ll have it.
My seed capital? Easy. Play the Blues and Whites against each other, skim a modest dividend off the Doria-Mamet trade, and slip Dei the location of Erginter’s corpse in exchange for a little goodwill. The Underground, my friend, exists for commerce, not conscience.

Who needs a Royal Claim when gold buys loyalty faster than any crown? With coin, I command mercenaries, mages, informants, courtesans, even goats—yes, goats, the most versatile investment in the known world.

Generous, too, I am. For my fellow Outsiders, every purchase toward liberation comes at a merciful 50% discount. Their victories expand my client base, after all.

And this little Buki? Destiny insists we’re bound to clash—but no one ever specified the battlefield. Can she halt the glorious rise of my WokDonalds empire, or untangle the elegant artistry of my money-laundering enterprises? What is ‘Causality’ before the holy trinity of Cash Flow, Compound Interest, and CAPITALISM?

>>96400560
0^0's strongest soldier.

>>96400560
I kneel merchant-anon

>>96400560
M-Malgold is that you?

>>96400560
Aurum, what the fuck are you doing????

>multiple 1k post threads
WTF MAGI CASE BROS WE GOT BTFO

>>96400519
A lot of relative freedom to do Outsider things as its in the midst of a restructure and Thaumiel seems like someone who would be open to working with Outsiders to aide her in establishing a powerful nation. Plus its an easy way to proc Everman's +3 Destiny with the extra mentor slot you mentioned and a surprising amount of Outsiders want to fuck around with that nightmare doomsday device to weaponize for our cause.

>>96400560
Shalom!

>>96400571
Tankino won

>>96400519
In addition to what others said, demonhost got a huge buff in parent options during the update. Dis is a pretty natural place to be a demon lord, especially if you prefer the Orthrung to Mamet or don't want to be contested for leadership by Dei.

>SRTR loves Tsunderes
The Elder Gods are fucking HACK WRITERS who get inspiration from animeslop!

>>96400560
0^0 was a mistake.

>>96400556
Outer Tide says "later player", not simply "another player", so it's too late once someone has picked Omega.

>>96400573
>a surprising amount of Outsiders want to fuck around with that nightmare doomsday device to weaponize for our cause.
anon, that is the opposite of a good reason to be there, some anon is going to cum all over the nightmare and accidentally impregnate it with some sort of world/goddess devouring entity

>>96400585
they can only take their material from far better writers
HACKS and FRAUDS the lot of them

>>96400585
SRTR likes anime.
YMRD watched historical documentaries.
JNPL read through diaries.
Charlotte took a glance at her 8th grade physics notebook.

>>96400596
>cum all over the nightmare and accidentally impregnate it with some sort of world/goddess devouring entity
>accidentally
I have bad news for you...

fuck man I want to ascend ASAP and get my own world to play around with

>>96400596
Thanks for the idea!

>>96400519
My mother is Zwa, so I'm naturally an exile from the Empire, with my birth being the reason we had to leave. So it makes sense for my birth location to be somewhere right next to the Empire. My father is a Drow, who are most welcome in the Empire and Dis. Dis is also less likely to see us targeted by loud anti-Empire groups, like would be more possible in the Exarchate and Malkuth, because Dis doesn't have an open border conflict with them.

>>96400450
So, how did your character parents met?
>Dei told Pir it was time to fulfill his stud duties so he just laid down and thought of Aat.

>>96400614
Ask JNPL, I don't know

>>96400596
You don't need cum to make things using nightmare, just look at Thaumiel.

What are the odds that at least one outertider won't blab to Charlie or her spies where Ymrd is?

>>96400519
I metagame'd and used it for the extra mentor slot. Honestly, I don't know how One's going to take care of me in secret being so close to a City State, but I'll pretend we're in the outskirts of the territory.

>>96400621
Merchant guy will do it 100%

>>96400625
I hear he sells good copper

>>96400560
Damn, I can't help but respect the hustle. You go monopoly man.

>>96400620
I want to use mine though.

>>96400595
Well its still a valid strategy for other Outer Tides right? Even so, pretty sure even now the only builds in the current Tide that have taken Omega have conflicting options with one another, Escher having Dei as a mother while Demonic Nightmare Maker chose it, and Vee the Dream Librarian has a similar issue with the same parent as the Flagellant Gambler (Afanisiy Sauromat).

Depending on what characters you consider to be in your Outer Tide it can still be open.

Any of you planning to reveal yourself as the Eleventh or are you running a stealth build?

>>96400596
yeah but is that really any different from my plan to make world devouring entities the natural way? It'd be the pot calling the kettle black, even with 10 legs I'd have nothing to stand on.

>>96400642
Considering I'm Toybox we're probably going to jump 0^0 in a blaze of glory to at least distract her from the stealth builds.

>>96400621
YMRD isn't exactly helpless, and unlike Charlie she knows everything you chose. I suspect the answer will be 0, unless she wants it to be higher.

>>96400596
I just want to make little ???s. Lots of ??s, an army of them some would say. The nightmare test tube demons will soon overtake the city and infiltrate every mayor region.
And the world will be full of cute abominations.

>>96400651
Lolifags are insane as usual.

>>96400642
I would do so if it was necessary for political capital to aid the people, but otherwise it poses too much risk of leading to machinations by enemies of justice.
It might be silly not to with Icon of Icons, but trying to collect admiration is rarely conducive to keeping it.

>>96400556
I told tankista about this and they said fate "Takes the points back" via injuring you
(And I where told them about it was in one of these threads, so you should have heard)

>>96400614
Is SRTR Thetaers' mom?

>>96400660
"bro what the fuck a giant hand just came down and ripped off my arm" -One of the 11th Outsiders 3 seconds after they walk out into the world

>>96400669
"Mo-SRTR, where'd you get that arm from?" Says the Toybox outsider.

>be me, 11th outsider
>malice omega
>burn all of my points
>fate takes them back
>negative points

>>96400675
It's just for your sock puppets dear don't worry about it, now get back to training you still have 99.99999 years to go.

Is black magic a good cyoa? asking for a friend

>>96400679
rip off all your limbs for 1 point each, and your dick for the last one.

Enjoy your -5 point build experience.

>>96400689
Too convoluted for my opinion, I could never properly build for it. But it was popular here.

>make a build
>someone make it but better

>>96400701
Oof did that happen to your build?

>>96400689
It's excruciatingly dense but if you learn the right spells you can be quite powerful. You can take out a martial instantly.

>>96400701
That's why you should post your build first, review after, and revise whenever an Anon smarter (or more autistic) than you figures out an improvement/loophole.

>>96400708
>You can take out a martial instantly.
What about someone with a gun

>>96400701
Whom?

>>96400722
Yes, but if a witch gets within gun firing range they're a bad witch.

>>96400687
I see those 99 years and behold visions of power and skill. With the intelligence gifts you're going to learn a LOT. Especially if you took untimeskip to get through more material. It might suck in the moment, but hell training will provide results. The universe's most extreme boot camp.

>>96400735
She will train you wrong on purpose, as a joke

>>96400735
but the story will be over once you're out

>>96400738
Hmm, maybe, but if that's true the cyoa just isn't as fun and isn't worth engaging with anymore. So I move on which I'd eventually do anyway. She's fate bound to teach mentor skills correctly though, or Theta will contradict what's already written.

>>96398716
Ysereth anon (thanks to whoever picked the name btw)

Can't believe I forgot fot too lol I guess I just completely forgot about parents since I just viewed them as gift providers my bad ill give him YEST because I've never seen someone pick it and I really don't care about fot

Sorry to have you edit my portion so much

>>96400762
Post your build to update. Come on. You want the list to be correct but have smidges and holes your build?

>>96400571
Outer Reincarnation's setting casts a far wider net to capture the cyoa piggies attention, Magi Case stood no chance.

>>96400600
>SRTR likes anime
wtf I hate SRTR now

>>96398716
>Unnotable Lich (Yat+Zemlya)
>Parents: Unnotable One (Iotated Lesser Yus), Unnotable One (Iotated Lesser Yus+Zhivete)
Minor note of no consequence: the father has regular Lesser Yus+Zhivete

>>96400605
patience my young padawan, you'll become a bored god in due time

Are demon lord majin just the best? I wanna try to turn myself into a uruk/majin hybrid like creature somehow after I get in the setting since I think it would be really strong and people are trying to turn themselves into a better uruk instead of a completely new kind of entity like I wanna do

Huge props to the alphabet of the damned anon too that was a dope build idea

>>96400778
All i did was forget to assign death slots to my parents originally but since im not trying to loophole deaths or anything I didn't really care especially since I couldn't think of good ways to have them die from a narrative point unlike the companions/mentors and reposting the whole build just to put YEST next to fot seemed excessive

>>96400794
wtf I love SRTR now

Which outer tide builds are the strongest so far?

>>96400827
Post to fix your damned grammar.

>>96400832
Depends on the writer.

>>96400832
Mine

>>96400856
Tok...

>>96400810
>Huge props to the alphabet of the damned anon too that was a dope build idea

thats a strong build but if you want to take it even further you could get throughbreed too, breed your summoned deamons and the baby will be born with all those mind gifts including all-glimpse for an unreasonably strong army

>>96400832
Yesn't. It's subjective, and also people build for different reasons. My vote is for capitalist guy, though. Mostly because it's funny.

>>96396181
Does second wind make you both a universal donor and recipient?

>>96400859
You know it's weird he haven't made an image build yet.

Pop Quiz

>Who is Jdan's son?

>Why is he not allowed on the throne?

>What is the named of the human race with blue hair?

Anyone else get couple vibes from YMRD and SRTR or is it just me?

>>96400889
Just you. There's no evidence of that.

>>96400879
Kuz'ma Ordo-Dorian.

He sides with 0^0 naturally and his father saw the logical consequence of that when he sat on the Old Thone.

Mithraic.

Anyone else get couple vibes from the Keter and Me or is it just me?

Anyone else get couple vibes from the letter Yat and me or is it just me?

>>96400889
They only like men. Outsider men.

>>96400897
Correct as far as I know!

Anyone else get couple vibes from the Eleventh and dying an painful, humiliating and ugly death to the One True God's heel or is it just me?

>>96400651
Are the children of ??? called ??
Do the ?'s go lower the further the generation goes? do they turn into ! afterwards?

>>96400936
I'm going to fuck your daughter, Charlie.

Okay let's say I kill Charlie what are the 3 gonna give me in exchange I want POWER, LOOT, and WAIFUS what can they offer me?

I’m not sure I’m 100% happy with this, but it’s feeling a bit better than it was. I’ve got another read through to do and adjustments to make. I ended up with way too many Destiny and not enough Ancestry, but I ain’t takin Charlie just for that

>Patron God
JNPL
>Mother
Laika
>Father
Leif
>Race
Tumen, black haired variety
>Languages
Everman, Palatiner, Salian, Nymphe
>Birthplace
New New York
>Inborn Gifts
Boiling Blood, Bitter Sickness, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Wisdom, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Look of Chaos x2, Eye for Shadows, Grim Outlook, Inner Vision x2, Multiocular O, Devout Signature, Godhand x2, Flowing Gait, Jet Kick
>Mentors
Kashtanka of the Orthrung, Spako
>Companions
Evdokia, ???, Omega, Kalliopa Aureole
>Encounters
For Auspicious Beginnings, Kashtanka
On Sick Leave, Spako
One Against All, Kalliopa Aureole
A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll
Let the Purgation Begin, Evdokia
No Holds Barred in a Bar Brawl, Omega
Upward Spiral, ???
>Fated Deaths
Me, A- Yat, a sacrifice when it matters most
Laika, B- Pokoy, this one’s for you, Mom
Leif, A- Dobro, the man who makes friends everywhere he goes is a dangerous thing in these troubled times
Kashtanka, C- Iotated Yest, a synergy taken too far
Spako, none- were gonna put her back together
Kalliopa Aureole, A- Zelo, a heroic last stand as the story demands
Evdokia, A- Iotated Lesser Yus, broken and split she will no longer be a danger to all
???, A- Iotated Az, you can only go unnoticed for so long
Omega, W- Ot, not today bitch
>Youth
Journey of the Self, Power Testing, Natural Philosophy, Profane Lore
>Quest
E Nomine

I’m gonna lay real low as a sickly, but intelligent child in New New York while traveling when I can with my diplomat mother or…also kind of a diplomat father. Learning all I can and collecting my party is key, while I’m still laid up with Bitter Sickness. I’ve got a whole summary here, but I’m outta space so fuck it

If the 3 and Charlie were in 4chan what boards would the post on

>>96400948
>>96396181
REPLY TO THE DAMN CYOA.

>>96400560
Damn. 0^0 is gonna get beaten up by a guy with a funny hat who bought her entire empire and forced her to work as a wagie like back on earth

>>96400889
I don't think there's yearning. Good BFFs though.

>>96400948
>I’ve got a whole summary here, but I’m outta space so fuck it
Just post it in a second post, you dont have to fit everything onto one post.

>>96400945
"Thank you, adventurer! Now I can rest easy. Here are 10 gold coins, as promised!"
>10 gold coins obtained

>>96400945
They're already showering you with waifus, Inborn Gifts and Royal Claim.

>>96400948
>no image
>no name

>>96400945
You get true love'd by the twelfth outsider.

>>96400955
/a/ for 3 /sci/ for Charlotte's Web

>>96400982
What about the rest?

>>96400975
well not like its an Outer Tide build. The man's just putting together his own personal build which is perfectly fine.

>Twelves chooses you as a mentor
>tfw One/Vtorusha situation repeats
SRTR's a cruel bitch.

>>96400945
A better death

What if I go in the toybox and just have sex with SRTR forever

>>96400989
Even then it's odd to put all the effort that goes into making a build for a long cyoa, but not picking a picture. It's like a room without a rug

>>96400999
BASED

>>96400955
[SRTR] on /a/
[YRMD] on /his/
0^0 on /sci/ pretending to be smart
[JPNL] on /tg/

>>96400999
She's gigantic.
And insane.

>>96400992
>The situation repeats
>Implying i am One tier
Flattering really.

>>96401000
I think a build with no image is the usual sort of state for builds here though, even with long CYOAs. I too personally prefer them with pictures but not a whole lot of reason to put a face to the name when its usually just anons putting themselves in the character as its a largely singleplayer experience.

>>96401008
I was already going to do it no need to convince me

>>96400992
Truly a 1:1 comparison.

>>96401000
I can't find anything I want just AI slop

>>96401010
Presumably this is after Charlie and the two of you are helping each other clean up the mess, so yeah, I'd say so.

Okay but who is the best at sex this is very important for my build

What does True Draconic Soliphisn do anyway?

>>96401028
One

>>96401031
It probably denotes you as a true dragon... Wait. Oh wow i get it now. So that's how she ended up like she did.

>>96400955
[SRTR]'s on /vt/

>>96400955
JNPL - /a/ for slice of life and moeshit.
SRTR - /pol/, /v/, /vt/ anywhere with shitposting and drama.
YMRD - She wouldn't post she'd just lurk. Huge fan of board culture, cringes the other goddesses out by talking like anons irl and using outdated 4chan memes.
Charlie - /tg/, /cyoag/ regular who often makes matterfag shitposts. Ironically went back to escapism with cyoas after finding Earth not as great as her nostalgia painted it as.

>>96401041
>confirmed to have no descendants

>>96401028
Ruhucuphre, 999 years fucking underground creatures in a never changing body.

>>96401048
You said best at sex not best at breeding.

>JNPL - /a/ for slice of life and moeshit.
No way. JNPL has heavy middle aged woman vibes, she would visit hobby boards like /po/ - Papercraft & Origami.

Is Xian dead for the purpose of Dice Fudge? He is the "Living Curse" but does that count?

>>96401047
>JNPL - /a/ for slice of life and moeshit.
No way. JNPL has heavy middle aged woman vibes, she would visit hobby boards like /po/ - Papercraft & Origami.

>>96401047
What about the Outsiders?

>>96401028
Iakowe's dick was so good that Charlie is doing a genocide over it. So.

>>96401071
she is writing slice of life and moeshit anon

>>96400956
SRTR says I don’t have to
>>96400975
>>96400989
I genuinely don’t give a damn. The name is me as is the face.
>>96400962
Fair enough, I just don’t like wasting posts.

It’s going to be hard to get around being a coddled and sickly child, but I’m an Outsider with a cool dad, so I’m gonna be fine. Once I’ve collected my little band of fucked up misfits, and cured myself, we’re going on a journey of self-discovery in our sky ship. Treasures, dungeons, new friends and allies, the anime works.

I want to return in time to settle the unrest in territories, then aim our collected might at Charlie. I’d prefer to take her myself through subterfuge, but we’ve got to put on a show now don’t we? Fate demands it.

I’m going to do my best to make sure everyone gets their good end, everyone has some sort of out except Daddyo, and that will culminate with letting Kallio get her big final stand before I YAT myself to drop the white witch. I’d drag her ass home if I could and attempt to shower what she’s done wrong, but I don’t think that’s in the cards.

Hopefully, the gods will smile upon me, so I can return to make sure everyone’s story ends nicely. Then I can set to work on the Uruk Hordes and assessing the nightmare beneath the world. There’s still plenty to do.

I chose JNPL because I don’t really want to be a ruler or the center of attention. I want to promote and support those who are suffering, helping to guide them to Meaning and an end of their story. But there’s work to be done and I’m the guy.

I’m not super happy with the mechanics of my build, but I know the kind of Outsider I want to be.

All that said I hate Hladvig and I am absolutely gonna fuck up his plans out of spite. I was gonna take his little assassin, just to kill him myself, but I don’t think I could pull it off in time.

>>96396203
>>96400985
>One
/tg/
>Two
/m/
>Three
/a/
>Four
/vst/
>Five
/adv/
>Six
/out/
>Seven
/v/
>Eight
/b/ before it became porn spam 24/7
>Nine
/sci/
>Ten
/qst/

>>96398404
>Arcane and LoR TRASH
Fuck you.

>>96400832
Because of destiny, brute violence literally does not work as a killing force
It is maneuverability and cunning that will determine the strongest
That being said, it's me

>>96400955
>JNPL
/out/, /po/,
>SRTR
/o/, /k/, /vt/

>>96401089
Why doesn’t Charlie just…resurrect him?

>She’s autistic about muh effort
Then resurrect him the HARD way??

>>96401124
but he is alive

>>96401116
Watch me punch you in the face making causality make you fucking die in the process

>>96398729
>[ILLEGAL BUILD: MISSING DEATH ON ZHUCHKA (A)]
I messed up while editing the build. Zhivette's supposed to be on Dei instead, and Zhuchka is supposed to get Her'v and Yee

>>96396181
Since "One" crumbles into dust when we reach adulthood, that means we can keep him around for like 50 years if we were a dwarf right? I think that'd be a huge benefit in an Outer Tide situation cause that'd give more then enough time for Tiders to seek each other out and get some benefits of a veteran before we have to go through the latter half of our wait for the next Outsider without him.

Guys we don't have a right to kill Charlie after everything she has done and all the people she has hurt she should forced to be the free use onahole slave of everyone in the world it's the only moral thing to do

>>96401124
>muh effort
This is that she tells you.
She is a massive hypocrite who got the best conditions on the start out of everyone (apart from One) and managed fuck it all up for herself before deciding everything in existence is at fault but her.

>>96401140
If you yat and enzombie yourself he can live
It won't work out very well, but you could

>>96401146
Wrote that one with one hand huh?

>>96401146
She wouldn't let me in her room to play with her dolls so I will kill her.

The posting seems especially low-quality this thread.

>>96401146
Ugh, no. I'd rather just kill her. Besides, never give your enemies a chance to recover. If she's alive she can plan, she can eventually strike.

>>96401146
Anon... why aren't you just killing her?

>>96401153
>Actions have consequences!
>What about the consequences of your actions, like having your mom randomly arrive in elfland instead of Polludan?
>No that doesn't count that's not my fault fuck you!

>>96401161
I think there’s a hope for redemption or clarity, but frankly it’s too late. She has to be put down. She’s too powerful and too unstable.

>>96396181

>Patron God : [YMRD]
>Male (Dobro)
True Love / Untimeskip*2 / Dice Fudge*2 / Extra Mentor
>Parents
Xaxas (Iotated Ouk) & Dryndedh-From-Agartha (Iotated Az)
>Race
Drakonid
>Languages
Elven-Northerner / Nymphe / Drakonian / Late Thulean
>Location
Floatlands-In-The-West
>Inborn Gifts
Ethereal Beauty / Unburnt Hide / Iron Stomach / Thoroughbreeding / Last Breath / Bitter Sickness / Wereplague / Misalliance*2 / Meandering Thought / Agelessness / Cognitive Speed / Memory Retention / Wisdom / Intelligence / Attentiveness / Spiritual Feel / Caster Intuition / Noble Inclination / All-Glimpse / Icon of Icons / Blazing Sea / God Hand*2 / Esurient Walk*2 / Wading Flight
>Mentor
Afanasiy Sauromat (Cherv')(Dice Fudge)
Kashtanka Of The Orthrung (Shta)(Untimeskip)
Rhucuphre-From-Maeve (Ouk)(Untimeskip)(Dice Fudge so she uses a companion slot)
>Companions
Araith (Zelo+Zhivete)(True Love)
Apantoxia (Iotated Lesser Yus)
>Encounters
A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll
On Sick Leave (Afanasiy Sauromat)(Mountains of Autumn)
Wild And Wilder (Kashtanka Of The Orthrung)
On The Edge (Rhucuphre-From-Maeve)
Dread The Wyrm (Araith)(Help Paxxia)
Hidden Amidst The Clouds (Apantoxia)
>Youth
Profane Lore
Power Testing
Plotting
Journey of the Self
>Quest : Temperantia
1/2

>>96401153
>No real big crises so she could just do whatever she wanted
>Erginter just died so she escaped getting spawncamped by the powergamer
>Great selection of mentors
>Fatefighter companion that ended up being able to help her overcome her Death
Even knowing how she did it I'm still surprised she managed to fuck herself over with such a great hand.

>>96401172

Got the parents idea from the point chart, I want more Ap, Agelessness and not to lock out the mental Gifts with Misalliance, I think they work well together and both have something good to teach.
Ouk on Rhucuphre, I know it's risky but her skillset is so interesting and I don't know what Kashtanka's craft is (probably some magic from the pic and the Sixth's Gifts). I'm going to help the Dragon Realm both with the Encounters, like, for On The Edge I will do whatever help Paxxie the most, save the sisters to keep the Empire divided, get blackmails on everyone involve, kill some or all of the sisters to make invading or negotiating easier.
And help by fathering many, just imagine 100 flying flamethrowers with all my Gifts and maybe a few more, I might bring up the idea to Paxxia, she likely know some Drakonid that want top tier kids or will want to build some institution to teach and keep track of all the super kids. A dozen squads of them could deal with the nearby Uruks and take the whole mountain range, the Twelve Riverfold and Peschanka easily too if war with the Empire break out.
I could pretend to be one of my descendant after I survive Dobro, to stay officially dead yet be able to act openly when I feel like it.
I hope I will be here for Afanasiy's Death Slot, a mirror to our Encounter. Xaxas just won't accept being eaten and Dryndedh as a dark knight is likely to get possessed because of a cursed item, so it should be just a little easier for him to get control back, or for me to help since he teach me about removing cursed items. Death "worthy of legend" for Araith likely involve her Dragon's form and the size alone will make that fight cataclysmic, something worthy of Izhe, really really cool but I don't want True Dragon to stop existing so she get Zhivete.
Xaxas's horn are black&red and Grigori look great is why picrel exist, a black scaled Grigori with crimson on the extremities.

2/2

>>96401124
He's alive (and Omega's dad). She's genociding northerners because northman cock is too good, and she keeps making bad decisions about it.

Incidentally, this is why more builds should use True Love on Iakowe. Cucking charlie is the morally correct choice.

>>96401223
I'm not into dads desu.

>>96401223
by picking him as your dad you are already arranging her cucking

>>96401232
That's okay, anon. As long as one person in each outer tide is fucking Charlie's ex, the rest can focus their efforts elsewhere.

>>96401258
You can make her your great however many grandma, your mother-in-law, and her ex's child all at the same time if you do Zwa/Iakowe and marry Omega.

Now that everyones chosen death slots it's time to pick your sex slots

>>96401283
Everyone's been choosing their sexes, it's the first option that the CYOA gives to you.

>>96401223
>because northman cock is too good, and she keeps making bad decisions about it.
Are you saying 0^0 is a whore?

>>96401324
Fucking two guys in 200 years isn't being a whore. She just has a type.

>>96401283
Breeding, true love, drained entirely

>>96401324
I'm not, but JNPL did

>>96396190
How and with what exactly did Keter challenge Charlotte?

>JNPL Loves all of her creations
>Except
Explain this

>>96401353
In Orthrung, using a pun.

>>96396181
>Patron God:
[SRTR]

>Reincarnation Perks:
Halfbreed, Adoption, Untimeskip x7, Dice Fudge, Extra Mentor x5, Extra Companion, Outer Tide

>Parents:
Mother: Maiosara Yesod (Disregarded)
Father: Barbos
Stepmother: The Keter (Dice Fudge)

>Race:
Human, Southlander/Beastfolk

>Languages:
Fae, Spriggan
Quietened: all others

>Location:
Toybox

>Inborn Gifts:
Thoroughbreeding, Bitter Sickness, Wereplague x2, Misalliance (Maiosara Yesod), Longevity, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Wisdom, Intelligence, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Noble Inclination, All-Glimpse, Stigmata, Icon of Icons, Autoantecedence, Blazing Seal, Enochian Brand, Azure Wreath, Devout Signature, Magician's Hand x2, Esurient Walk x3 (true time stop at will)

>Mentors:
Untimeskip: Feodwra, Lyndis of the Doria, Kashtanka of the Orthrung, Leimeie, Ielziaseh-from-Erebus, Mlada, Rhucuphre-from-Maeve

Absolutely optimized for planning, learning, and all social endeavors. I will be the perfect leader, strategist, teacher, psychiatrist, and any other role that will be required.

Worry not about me abusing my social prowess. Harming the group is not in my interests. My goals are to master the God-Script and ascend. I will help everyone grow and get along as much as possible during our time in the Toybox to ensure JNPL's return and Charlotte's defeat. Then, I will learn from all the Elder Gods.

Worry not about my sanity amidst frequent role switching or your sanity spending a long time in the Toybox. We have each other and plenty of time for relaxation, and I will look after everyone's mental health.

>Encounters:
A Pack of Goblins, A Hop, A Lean, A Hobgoblin, A Score of Orcs, A Band of Ogres, A Bridge, A Troll, A Troll

>Death:
Theta

>>96401396
>Youth:
Magical Training, Theology, Plotting, Journey of the Self

I will train to be a generalist mage, learning every type of magic and spellcasting method to understand all Meaning. Subjects aside from those mentioned in the build will also be learned to a lesser extent to find Meaning in all things.

Of great importance to everyone is Profane Lore, specifically keeping track of the ongoings of the outside world. We must all at least have a basic understanding of it. While [SRTR] wants to keep us in the Toybox for 100 years, plans cannot keep up with changes, so she may send a number of us out ahead of time (and perhaps we will be able/allowed to get back in) to deal with special situations, e.g. to turn the tide a decisive battle. Therefore, periodically updating everyone on the current state of the world is crucial.

While I wish to keep staying in the Toybox to learn from [SRTR], I will obey the exit order should it come. I can take on any role, but the ones most likely to require me are assassin, infiltrator, spymaster, politician, or some combination of thereof. Perhaps I will be the Nilmatrix of our side.

>Quest:
E Nomine

Everything learned. Every scenario simulated. Every possibility accounted for. Past, present, and future deduced. We will be ready. We will win.

Updating mainly to add more concrete plans and change from Daemonhost to Icon of Icons, which fits more and is better for the build. Other changes include: different parents, more inborn gifts, more mentors, and untimeskipping all picked mentors. I did not pick Profane Lore even though I spoke of it extensively because it is better to allocate the Outsider System's support to my other picks.

>Elven-Northerner is fucking Polish
I gotta fucking delete it from my build now.

>>96401400
>she may send a number of us out ahead of time (and perhaps we will be able/allowed to get back in)
Probably not going to happen considering the enormous energy cost to bring you in. The whole point of the Toybox is to wait for the next Outsider, and probably be the only real moment where she can fully release all the tide. Zenia and such are special cases because they're positioned to help you as the Eleventh as much as possible in key moments, but pulling that multiple times would defeat the purpose of it all if Charlotte knows exactly how much SRTR is meddling in things and starts expecting it, especially considering losing a single person in the collection of SRTR's toybox playthings would set them back massively cause ain't like you'll get enough time to retrain someone the same as before.

>>96401418
Probably not, but we must prepare for the possibility even if it is unlikely because we cannot afford failure in this area. What if a decisive battle that would decide the fate of a continent needs help only we can provide at a crucial moment? It would be terrible if we are caught unprepared or even miss the opportunity. Besides, it's not like as if keeping ourselves up to date will take much of our time.

>>96401458
It's not much about taking time, its more the effort and resources. Best bet is most likely SRTR herself communing with those with Stigmata in their Dreams or the Dungeons to keep updated, though as an Elder God, even one thats sealed, she's probably just able to cast an eye on everything anyway. She's already primed to put key pieces where they would help the most, but she's only go so many in her back pocket, thats why we only got significantly less than a handful of people who've directly interacted with her available for our choices.

The decisive battle she's preparing for is the 12th Outsider's arrival, hard to involve yourself in several other decisive battles unless you give up on committing for the first one. Might be better to let the continent fall to sweep it back up later with the full force.

>>96401489
There's something fucked about that excel file, excel keeps telling me there's not enough space to open it on a drive with over 100gb remaining on it.

>>96401489
Heh, finally someone else noticed.

>>96396181
I just noticed that all Elder Gods have feathered wings and a halo in their pics while Charlie/Empyrean only have the wings.

>>96396181
She's just Dido again.

>>96401485
Hmm, reasonable. But there's no harm in preparing, right? A continent is a very important strategic resources. Charlotte obtains more metaphysical hold over the world as she obtains more physical hold. If a continental conquest happens early, it may give her too big of an advantage to the point that we may not be able to wait until the 12th Outsider arrives.

Wouldn't the incorrect underpinnings Charlotte implemented into reality end up undoing reality the moment causality took over completely? There would no longer be a narrative to support the inherently flawed implementation and it would destroy itself through its own uncompromising nature.

>>96401387
That was kylin

>>96401557
Technically, her physics work fine. They're not "incorrect" per se, just not the same as Earth's.

>>96401539
Nah, Dido isn't on apocalyptic maniacs team.

>>96401570
Chemistry and physics are fundamentally incompatible within the models taught to highschool students

>>96401572
She's the sinister terrorist that causes all the problems but can't be stopped before the current crisis.

>>96401670
She's probably still surviving if you death slot her. She's already dodged one Yat from #8.

>>96401539
It bothers me a bit that I can't get rid of this bitch with my build. There's merit to leaving plots for the next Outsider, but this is one that's stretched on far too long. Fucking Charlotte's big ass head is in the way of this problem, though.

>>96401670
Dido did nothing wrong.

>>96401684
The Convention was flawed, but Dido's methods only accelerated worser outcomes. To contrast, Rhucuphre is completely justified her actions and will do no wrong whatsoever.

>>96401696
>Rhucuphre is completely justified her actions and will do no wrong whatsoever

You are a funny guy. And she'll kill you in a funny way.

>>96401696
You can't look at the Nightmare and think trapping everyone in their own version is real godhood.

Do you assign death letters to Blazhko's mentors?

>>96396181
I wish I had three more mentor and companion slots and about 12 more destiny points.

>>96401708
I'm not of the game, so clearly she's not going to murder me I turn my back on her, sleeping peacefully and dreaming about how Rhuncuphre will solve everything.

>>96401721
You're wrong.

>>96401762
yes, the same as with Gunter

>>96401673
Dobrava can handle her in Betrayal Most Foul

>>96401840
Some of the 1 destiny companions are like really fucking strong like Dobrava, Blazhko Geminara, Gunter all offer really strong boons, Polkan offers quite a strong buff too potentially

>>96401860
There are some real gems in the one costs, spako for example is incredibly good and may be a physical powerhouse if you take red goo for her flesh and ask Leif where her skeleton is.

>>96401878
Spako is both the best and the cutest mentor

>>96399372
>Mocnaeth (Pokoy, Breaking and Entering)
That's a JNPL only letter.

For what it's worth I also think that the Dwarf naming scheme means "[You] Son of [Parent]".

>>96396181
Shocking truth! What if Baf's success brings back not only power and role of the Third, but also Erginter as well? She was a critical part of his story after all.

Would the combo of All Glimpse, God Hand x3, Devout Signature, and Dream Passage x3, allow your future divine self to send blessings to the you in the present through the dream realm?

>>96401910
I do not know, but it is irrelevant as Autoantecedence can only be taken once.

>>96401898
Jarnigit makes that incredibly obvious from her name being "Everyone's Doch (presumably Daughter)." From that, Syn = Son becomes an obvious connection, and we have to conclude the final element is their Father for boys and Mother for girls. So if you make a female Dwarf keep that in mind, your name would be like Anon, Doch Konmeana, not Doch Gramrouth.

>>96401918
Dream passage can be bumped down to x2 then since it still states that it allows free travel into dreams then.

>>96401910
You're more likely to delude yourself into getting blessings from a hallucinated you than actually breaking time. If [JNPL] was still on her Pillar, it could have passed through sheer vibes alone, but 0^0 just breaks that.

>>96401902
Then your retarded companion is pretty strong.

>>96396181
Why is Taexx so expensive?

>>96401957
A rather high position in society, Drakonid racial bonuses, useful caster Gifts, essentially works like a mentor. He's also a relatively decent person, especially by Drakonid standards.

>>96401987
>A rather high position in society
He's just an adviser to someone he hates, he doesn't have any real power base or dynasty behind him.
>Drakonid Racial bonuses
Sure, but for his cost I could take Xaxas as a mom. She's basically everything he's not, with the only downside being that includes that she's an asshole.
>useful caster Gifts
Eh, only two, the basic ones, which is pretty bad. His third is just being pretty.
>Essentially works like a mentor
All your parents do.
>He's also a relatively decent person
They don't charge for that.

>>96402018
it also says unrivaled in the medical field so can probably easily cure wereplague and maybe help cure bitter sickness.

What does happen if you select Aat with adoption?

>>96402042
Welp... you just got adopted by a curse... somehow... while they literally can't do anything physical... and most likely can't even communicate, considering they have no languages. But I wonder how would this work with JNPL as it demands trough fate that the adopter finds you and searches for your mother does this just revive AAT in some form or just give them a glimpse of lucidity.

>Dio vs Jotaro.jpg
>Dobrava: "So, that means your Shadow of God is the same type of Encounter as mine: strong causality, but not a lot of reach in terms of fate..."

>>96396181
Imagine just being born, fully grown and clothed, and your very first experience as a living person is hearing that your name is now Baf.

>>96401890
I'll switch to another fitting letter later.

>>96396181
Wait, wait... Breaking and entering says you can make a portal leading to any location of your choice can you make a portal to the moon?

>>96402150
Only if your already there or your using it on YMRD I supose.

>>96402150
You really shouldn't

Haven't visited these threads in a long time. How are things nowadays ? Has Magicase 2 or whatever it was released ?

>>96402154
can't use it on YMRD cause she has no encounters, but it should work fate has predestined it. Even if it would require to start a second war of heaven and earth or revive Vtorusha to do so. That companion must have somehow traveled to the moon. The elder gods shouldn't have left it as vague as "a portal leading to another location of your choice" if they did not want it to happen.

>>96401539
Is there a way to fix her, True Love her and get away with it?

>>96400897
>Mithraic
Is this canon? when did Tank confirm it?

>>96402233
In the extended races page and Azure Wreath gift. The are the former disciples of One's mentor who was the only known person to have ascended to godhood.

>>96402233
you have not read the YMRD deep lore in the google drive

>>96402242
You can be any of these if you have [JNPL] as a mother right? Its a shame their Inborn Gifts aren't listed down, otherwise I would choose one of them for my build.

>>96402244
>The are the former disciples of One's mentor who was the only known person to have ascended to godhood.
Zamn, do we know where he's at now? Imagine if he suddenly appeared and bitchslapped Charlotte across dimensions for making his descendents into brainwashed slave-soldiers.

>>96402258
Just copy one of the other human races to use as a template, +1 mentor slot +2 ancestry +1 destiny since they are the disciple magic race.

>>96402261
He's one of Charlotte ancestors too.

>>96402261
She also stole his teachings and attributed them to herself. So much for muh effort. What a bitch.

>>96402280
I don't think he'd a give a shit. Since he likely knows what an outsider is. If nothing that'll make him even more pissed off.

I am going to go do something moderately difficult
Wish me luck

>>96402242
>Pick Rzheite/Sirogrievan
>Single handedly bring the entire race to prominence from the brink of extinction by cosplaying as Ghengis Khan and breeding anything with a functioning womb.
>Deal 0^0 insofar as you are able to go back to your repopulation program as quickly as possible.
>Be hailed as the hero-god of your new throughoutbred resurrected race.
Rate my gameplan

>>96402303
Not as good as reviving the Yaksha Elves out of 10.

>>96396181
What do you think about giving pokoy to Mocnaeth or Ilfek to use fate to help plans to break the eternal curse?
>>96402300
Good luck anon.

>>96402258
>>96402269
It does say that one of their inborn gifts is associated with practicing magic. So if I had to make a guess of what Inborn Gifts they have, I would bet on: Caster Intuition/Spiritual Feel + Azure Wraith.

>>96402340
Azure Wreath states that while the gift does serve their purpose as spellcasters, it doesn't mean they necessarily have it. That's why I think a generic approach would be better.

>>96402303
0^0 probably won't even care as your just fucking more humans into existence, she might even be happy that your bringing instability to the Dorian continent trough your pillaging thus making it easier for the Ecumene to conquer.

>>96402340
Half the Mithraic have Spiritual Feel or Caster Intuition, but Azure Wreath say that they don't have Azure Wreath any more or less as anyone else.

Reading about the Eumene's conquests we learn:
>haven't managed to take Bastionara yet
>apparently he Ecumene's petty officials keep trying to take it independently, what the fuck?
>they have poor control of their hinterlands. Straight up tells us we could form a holdout that would last a good while against them during our youth
>they can't get rid of the Uruk even in their heartland
>can't get further than the coasts+some rivers on Mamet
>a few years after we're born they're going to LOSE Archaia, their biggest outpost on Mamet
And a bunch of other stuff. I'm honestly not that impressed with them.

>>96402443
>can't get rid of the Uruk even in their heartland
no one can

Why does every single god love humans more than any other race? They created eternal curse to fuck with elves. They created Majin to fuck with elves and true dragons. They wiped true dragon out of existence. They even allowed Charlie to fucking destroy elven continent so humans are even more important and widespread.
Total human annihilations seems to be a good solution to Old God problem. I just have to persuade Charlie that this is the way. Any way whatever you do, just do not help humans.

>>96402453
I will

>>96401557
... My reality bubble is a lot more important than I thought. Well, at the very least I have a way to prevent reality from collapsing if we lose, if.

>>96402454
It is said in plain: because humans have short lifespan, so in the cycles of reincarnation their souls get to experience more youths per unit of time.

This also poses a problem to any altruistic world-betterer: if I could play god with out world, I'd definitely try to upgrade human lifespan, but in OR, that goes directly against what the elder gods want and they'd sabotage it.

>>96402465
Yes. Exactly. It is said in plain: Old Gods want more deaths. They do not want you to live in peace. They want to put a timer on every single life. Pandaemonium was fucking right. I'm going to wipe every short-lived race from the face of Earth. Breed them with elves, make ageless hybrids, forbid human-human marriages.

>>96402476
>They do not want you to live in peace
JPNL invented death and she wants you to have a nice fulfilling life

>>96402454
They prefer humans because mortals are the best way to let souls experiment more facets of life, and become gods but
it was Vtorusha to exterminate most True Dragons, and I don't really think they were capable to stop Charlie from nuking Orthung.

>>96402476
>They do not want you to live in peace
[JNPL] litterally gives you the letter to die of old age in peace, and she even changed the death slot of one of her outsiders to let him take her.

>>96402465
The extended races blurb says that humans were never the protagonists of the world until outsiders came along and it shows in the other continents. So I doubt the elder gods favored them that much. They most likely were the best fit for the system and ended up taking over.

>>96402454
I like to think they are a lot like Ludo.

>>96402476
>they do not want you to live in peace
>the sixth did exactly that
>not even as a human, but as a beastman

>>96402489
*it

>>96402476
The text that Charlie hides at the start says it best. A never ending story is not worth the paper it's written on. Every story must end for another to begin. If the whole purpose of the world is for every soul to experience every possible story then everyone must die several times for it to come.

>>96402479
She wants me fucking dead. Why can't I have a nice fulfilling life without a curse of mortality?
>>96402482
Of course they could stop Charlie. If it was a human continent, I bet they would make some plan to stop her. But they wanted all these long lived elves dead.
>>96402489
Yep. She want to make sure everyone is dead. 999yo elves like Rhucuphre must not exist in JNPL world.

>>96402493
Yes. JNPL was his companion and she legit mindraped him into taking Pokoy and dying. I won't believe that it was his original plan.

>>96402454
Pretty sure the eternal curse was cooked by outsiders
And majins too
And the true dragons were argued out of existance by someone who also was one

>>96402505
>>96402482
Outsiders are the tools by which elder gods accomplish goals; elves were a mistake because they live too long, but they were too numerous and well-established for any random fluke to take them out, so elder gods set Charlie at them.

>>96402498
Then make a proper reincarnation mechanic. But no. Old Gods want you to die for good. Because it's boring for them to watch the same character for too long.

>>96402499
>Of course they could stop Charlie. If it was a human continent, I bet they would make some plan to stop her. But they wanted all these long lived elves dead.
Anon, 0^0 BTFO all of them, they are capable but Charlie outmaneuvered them, why do you think JNPL even offers you to resurrect a pixie (immortal race) killed there, if she didn't want them to survive.
>Yep. She want to make sure everyone is dead. 999yo elves like Rhucuphre must not exist in JNPL world.
She wants to let people become gods, the fastest way is theough reincarnation, and she still clearly isn't truly opposed to immortal races.

>>96402512
From my understanding your soul always holds a record of your past lives, you can't access them mid-life but I assume between lives and once you ascend you will have memories from all of them.

>>96402504
>no one wants to live happily and die of old age surrounded by people he loves! i'd rather die by some gruesome death or forced to live as some undead toilet actually!
You sound mentally deficient.

Is time stopped while you make your choices?
Could you theoretically just lock 0^0 in with you for your Outsider System setup for years on end and let the Ecumeme fall apart without her?

>>96402504
>Take comfy life goddess as a mentor
>Pick all simple choices and encounters without any grand strategy in mind
>Stay at home with simple low stakes adventures breeding your two wives
>I'm sure [JNPL] mind raped him into it
Sure anon, just like Sarmat didn't actually laugh at [SRTR] when she offered him everlasting

>>96402511
>Outsiders are the tools by which elder gods accomplish goals;
No, they aren't, the elder gods can't control outsiders, just try to push them, as we see. You're spouting headcanons and pretending it's the truth.
>>96402512
Nta but there's literal reincarnation, and the reason it's set up like this is allowing people to true ascend quicker.

>>96402522
My point is JNPL was Tuzik companion and he died in a way she would like the most. JNPL is more dangerous than Rhucuphre. You won't even see it coming.

>>96402505
>Pretty sure the eternal curse was cooked by outsiders

It was cooked by Xian. Not the Third, but original Xian. Then it mixed with the nightmare in the Underground.

>>96402531
Oh no, I was tricked into living my fullest life without being caught in some horrid twist of fate by my own doing. Oh the humanity!

Whatever you say, old god lovers. I'm going to implement eugenics program to breed humans out.

>>96402532
>Not the Third, but original Xian
Nta, but really? I was under the impression it was the third's.

>>96402476
The Old Gods wants the soul to build up Meaning. The Mortal Races dies quickly and generally change circumstances enough that it works out in their favor, but they also needed the Elder Races to effectively act as Meaning repositories, speedrun the building of civilizations so they don't have to go insane over 300 000 years of oooga booga. This didn't work out for the Mortal Races that well, so they added the Outsiders as another factor, and the Outsiders generally lean towards the Mortal Races because change and related is more possible with them. FFW to now and the Elder Races have ate shit, but taking the place of the Old Old Throne, the Firstborn Empire, the Dragon Rulers, Eternal Archaia, and whatever's going around in Poluden, is the Ecumene, who if allowed to continue onward will suck up the Meaning out of everyone's souls and stops the Ascension of everything. This isn't all bad, the Firstborn Empire fell and so would they, but it's still kinda bad because their ideas are just anti-Providence.

Anyway, Rhucuphre's right, the gameboard should be broken into fragments. Maximum meaning is only gained through maximum closed rooms.

>>96402491
What cyoa is that?

>>96402530
Consider the ease with which the outsider system allows you to apply true love and death letters on the previous Outsider Keter. So even (You) can control outsiders!
I agree there's ambiguity to the degree they planned the major events, but the elder gods are in charge of fate-like things, and then the elves who are too "stagnant" (see Eldar race description) get wiped out in a way they believe has Meaning - all that is at the least very suggestive of elder god design.

>>96402543
Why would it matter if my soul build up Meaning in 10000 years or in 1000 years with forced deaths? Why Old Gods want to make it as fast as possible even if than means sentencing millions of simple people to horrid deaths because of old age?
Rhuruphre and Pandaemonium are right. Old Gods are hypocrites and their vision of a "good world" is inherently flawed. They created "nessessary evil" and that evil is aging and death.

>>96402538
The Dragon would worm its way into your heart and demand that it is right that it eats you. But in the end, nobody ever wants to leave.

>>96402541
Really. It is very confusing, so Yphont made an oopsie that she very much regretted.

>>96396190

>>96396181
Revising my build now that I have a better understanding of the setting and what I want out of it. This is what I have so fart, still deciding on mentors but I need to sleep.

My goal is to become a sort of urban legend/minor diety of dungeoneers. A jovial stranger that shows up to turn the tide in favour of intrepid adventurers. Eventually gaining some kind of tangible control over the dungeons themselves? idk.

Maybe eventually trap Charlie in a dungeon with me for all time.

What would be the best death to go along with this?

Patron God: YMRD

Gender: Male

Reincarnation:
-Dice Fudge
-True Love, 1D & 1A

Mother: Boyana, B, 2A
-Auburn
-Fighter's Eye x1
-Far Graze x1
-Azure Wreath

Father: Sharik, C, 2A
-Everman
-Martial Instinct
-Wisdom
-Dream Passage x1

Race: Muddish, +1 Mentor, +3A

Location:

Mentors:
-Upunth, A, -3D
-Gewgrin Aureole
-Vu'uk, B, -2D

>>96402548
>Consider the ease with which the outsider system allows you to apply true love and death letters on the previous Outsider Keter. So even (You) can control outsiders!
It allows the manipulation of the fate of people already in the world, not of the outsiders still not in the world, to a limited enough degree Thaumiel betrayed Keter, and if they exercised absolute control 0^0 would have never been a thing. I really doubt that they had any design in what Charlie did, considering they're attempt to create an enemy for her ended as it did, and how they were all defeated.
Also again [JNPL] offering you Su'uq, who you think they planned to destroy.

>Pandemonium propaganda in the thread
Mr. Legate, this Majin (hard j) right here >>96402551

>>96402555
Yes, I saw she made the mistake, but I swapped them, now things have a bit more sense.

>>96402504
>>96402531
>>96402551
You shut your whore mouth! that's my mom you're talking about! if you're a bitch enough to insult someone's dead mother then I'll have no choice but to shove those words right down your throat. To restore my late dear mother's honor I challenge you to a duel of the ages!
>Me. You.
>Outer Tide. (Other anons can join but just as spectators)
>Timeframe: 20 Years after reincarnating.
>Location: Charlotte's bedroom.
Come at me if you dare!

>>96402570
0^0 wiped elven civilization. JNPL hated "stagnant" elven civilization. I bet she's laughing now.

>>96402558
Iotated Ouk or Myslette are probably what you want, being in a dungeon forever could be considered a form of coma and a dungeon could be a powerful entity to be devoured by.

>>96402543
>Rhucuphre's right, the gameboard should be broken into fragments.
Considering she wants to
>repay all that was ill done
and
>betray the world before it betray you
the existance of the nightmare, and my fundamental disapproval of
>Maximum meaning is only gained through maximum closed rooms
I will have to disagree.

>>96402551
Time becomes looser and looser as you go on. At 19 years old, your 20th year is 5% percent of your life. At 99 years old, your 100th year is 1% of your life. It doesn't work out that cleanly, maybe 34th year practically is all of your 30s, or you don't think your 1-5ths were actually your life, but your Fate has already been written by the choices you have Chanced to make, and Providence is made out of all that. All the deaths are just so you get more chances to roll the dice and actually ascend and don't have to suffer as a hylic.

Anyway, Pandaemonium is the denial of any Meaning at all. They get it but they haven't read enough. Rhucuphre is the denial of the present Gods-dictated Meaning, and she's completely right, and totally awesome, and very handsome. She's the contrast of Mr. Emperor who trusted the World and the Gods and died getting owned by one of his former comrades.

>>96402585
Really doubt that, she's the goddess of comfyz who believes in every single normal life there is meaning, probably she isn't too sad, as she know they will reincarnate in lives to get closer to ascension, but she notes how Charlie doesn't accept her own fault and is only holding a grudge with them.

>>96402609
So Old Gods care not about what actual people think. They force them to die and reincarnate. It's not a choice of a person, it's a choice of JNPL. And she herself is not mortal. It's hypocrisy.

>>96402609
>the denial of the present Gods-dictated Meaning
I think that would be more Vtorusha, whom Rucuphre seems opposing.

>>96402596
You're just not seeing it. Only the Wei offered the correct and stable path for civilization to prosper, and because they were right, they ended up winning the whole fighting bowl as the predominant civilization.

>>96402551
Souls grow through enduring stories, for a story to truly exist there must be challenges and changes. If it wasn't old age then it would be something else to drive the story forwards, likely some form of more painful violent conflict.

Daily reminder for other 0^0 cultists is that you will never reach the greatness of mister moneybags

>>96402634
JNPL is not dead yet. I want her to die too and experience growth herself. Die for real this time.

>>96402637
She died.

>>96402625
Vtorusha is a "EVERY PERSON IS THE HERO OF THEIR OWN STORY." advocate. Completely insane, but she did her best. Rhuncuphre's ambitions are a mockery of hers, because it's the more reasonable position of "THE STORY YOU'RE TELLING IS BAD." which is reasonable because she's been living for long enough to know what the Gods thinks makes for good stories. Rather than let that kind of travesty pass, she's going to do a good thing for everyone.

>>96402618
"Let me die after two seconds rather than one second and I'll be happy forever."

>>96402648
If it's possible to resurrect her with memory intact, she's not dead enough. Let her die like a common folk. With nothing left behind.

>>96402637
what a grand and intoxicating innocence

>>96402651
>THE STORY YOU'RE TELLING IS BAD." which is reasonable
"Let chaos take world" is reasonable, huh?

>>96402652
common folk can be reincarnated with memory intact, as the yee letter shows, simply they need to live through more roles in life.

>>96402663
It's the only course a sane person could take after seeing three plus one gods ruin the world with their machinations.

>>96402637
>experience growth herself
That's not how it works, she's already complete. There's nothing left to grow. It's already been done.

>>96402651
Again, the existance of the nightmare, and generally [JNPL]'s behavior tell me that she seems the more reasonable one of the two.

>>96402667
Does every single simple person reincarnate? I highly doubt so. I want JNPL to firmly become one who does not reincarnate.

>>96402675
>Does every single simple person reincarnate
Yes, that's the entire point, in the very first page
>She wanted to give everyone a chance to grow, little by little

>>96402681
>Yes, that's the entire point, in the very first page
With a memory intact. That's the whole point.

>>96402667
>kill everything
>sane
Anon is on his nihilistic JRPG villain arc
SRTR bless him

>>96402683
Then no, because then there would be no point in reincarnation, they need to live theough more roles to truly ascend.

>>96402684
Where did I say to kill everything?

>>96402689
Then I want JNPL to never get her old memory back. Let her grow a bit more.

>>96402681
I mean, you don't if your empyrean (soul has to be destroyed to die), you wouldn't with Iotated Ouk either and it's existence imlies such a state is possible.

>>96402696
She's already a goddess, she doesn't need to grow more, the reincarnation has the objective to make everyone into gods.
It seems you agree with 0^0, about her being a "condescending prick", wich certainly has its reasons.

>>96402712
Yes, I partially agree with Charlie. But I don't understand why Charlie help humans instead of elves or draconids. Death is The Evil of this world. The goal of any sane Outsider should be minimizing total deaths. A small population of immortal beings is way better than a large population of wage slaves in 0^0 industrial world. And job of a god is to protect them.

>>96402704
There are other ways to die as an empyrean (it's mentioned there are spiritual threats in the dream realm, without specifying wether they would destroy the soul, that can cause you to perish, there are other loopholes), and iotated ouk doesn't confirm the destruction of your soul upon being devoured.
I don't know the details, and I have my own problems with the goddesses (like artificially writing drama to heighten the stakes), I'm just mentioning their motivation.

>>96402727
Because
>Death is The Evil of this world
isn't an objective statement, it's just your own opinion of it, I believe suffering is probably the Evil of the world, Charlie has her biases that guide her in her arbitrary action for the sake of her own justice.

>>96402732
The more dramatic stories have more meaning. It's as [SRTR] says, just comfy living generates value at a very slow pace, going through a journey with trials and tribulations is a lot more fulfilling for the soul.

>>96402749
I know, it's just that that's starting to edge beyond my personal limit of tolerance, just like allowing death at all is beyond the other anon's.

Elder God worship is weird. Imagine writing a novel where the characters constantly exclaim how awesome you (their author) are. Imagine the cringe

>>96402742
That just means that there is no objective good or evil. And you should just push the world in the direction you personally like. Souls will grow anyway, so getting rid of undesirables is not that bad. After all even old gods think that death is only a tool.

>>96396181
1 of 2

SRTR

Reincarnation
Male A – Buki
True Love (Kalliopa Aureole)
Extra Mentor
Extra Companion * 3
Untimeskip (Kashtankka)

Mother
Senamotis Sarmata B – Qoppa

Father
Marsaget Sarmat B – Cherv’

Races
Human, Southlander

Languages
Polyglot
Everman
Palatiner
Greenspeech
Nymphe

Location
The Exarchate
New New York

Inborn Gifts
Thoroughbreeding
Cognitive Speed
Wisdom
Intelligence
Attentiveness
Spirtual Feel
Caster Intuition
Noble Inclination
All Glimpse
Stigmata
Royal Claim

Mentors
Maou A – Iotated Az
Kashtankka of the Orthrung (companion) C – Glagoli; Yee
The Keter A – Greater Yus

Companions
Blazhko – (Eirina of the Orthrung; Kilyn of the Orthrung; Jdan ordo-Dorian) A – Dobro
Kalliopa Aureole A – Zhivete
Omega W – OT
Gunter Lilim (Ota; Du’um; Oko Shtorma) A – Iotated Lesser Yus
Dobrava (Hot Spot Troubles; A Calm and a Storm; Shadow of the God) A – Iotated Greater Yus
Inga Yesod -
Nilmatrix Dobrava

Encounters
Nothing Ever Happens (Omega)
A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll
For Auspicious Beginnings (Kashtankka)
Cut Above, Cutting Lines (Gunter Lilim)
Sage of a Thousand and one Treasures (Dobrava)
Hot Spot Troubles (Blazhko)
A Calm and a Storm (Kalliopa Aurole)
On Sick Leave (The Keter)
A Daring Rescue (Inga Yesod)
Loot in a Box (Maou)
Remember the Demon (The Keter)
Crown in the Gutter (Maou)
Shadow of God (Nilmatrix)

Death
Buki

Youth
Profane Lore
Theology
Natural Philosophy
Uplifting

Quest
Vanitas

>>96402759
Yes, that's my point, everyone act according their own beliefs and views of justice.
I personally lack both will and power (my build isn't that strong) to change the world according to my whims, will more try to help people and see their ideas to better the world, while personally studying the god-script and opposing the ecumene, but everyone will do what they want..I would even be willing to listen Charlie out if she was less comically evil.

>>96402773
2 of 3

Establish myself as rightful King of The Exarchate. Have lots of powerful companions that have abilities and knowledge to wage war on Charlotte. Use my youth meeting companions and mastering the dynamics of this world and acceleating the tech level and seeking diplomatic unity and becoming Hegemon of an anti-Ecumene alliance based in Doria but extending around the world to fight Charlotte. At the core of this is Kalliopa Aureole who ‘True Loves’ me and will give unity of the Empire and my kingdom in the war. Seek to lead a war to push back and destroy the Ecumene.

Also have secondary goals of freeing SRTR from the toybox and reviving JNPL and working with YMRD, I’d say she owes me one anyway for helping Omega.

Companions (The master of my master is also my master, my companions companions are effectively also my companions)

Maou – Should be helpful with both her knowledge and magic and in helping to forge an anti-Ecumene alliance with Stygia and Dis
Kashtankka of the Orthrung (companion) – Timeskip all her teachings allowing to use max. potential of my inborn gifts. She herself also will have good insight and abilities to fighting Ecumene.
The Keter – Should have a lot of knowledge about Charlotte and I can gain a lot from her failures to beat her.

>>96402773
>>96402778
3 of 3

Blazhko – (Eirina of the Orthrung; Kilyn of the Orthrung; Jdan ordo-Dorian) – These mentors should help him to deal with magic and beomce a powerful anti-Ecumene hero.
Eirina of the Orthrung – gain more insght into Charlottes powers and how to combat her. Also seek to recruit Erina into anti-Ecumene alliance.
Kilyn of the Orthrung – Share knowledge on Charlotte’s injuries and weaknesses, use to develop moves against Charlotte, also see if she can give advice that Du’um can use. Also seek to heal her and bring her into anti-Ecumene alliance.
Jdan ordo-Dorian – Can use mentorship connection to help develop diplomatic alliance and bring Old Throne into anti-Ecumene alliance and get intelligence from future with time travelling ability. Major strategic advantage to know the future in a war.

Kalliopa Aureole – As future Empress who has ‘True Love’ on myself, we can marry and have a unified dynasty to merge the Empire and Exarchate and form the core of an anti-Ecumene alliance.
Omega – As Charlottes’ daughter should have a lot of knowledge of her and the Ecumene. Through my connection with her might also be able to contact and get assistance from YMRD.

Gunter Lilim – Can have a frieldy rivalry with him as to who can contribute more to the anti-Ecumene alliance, rightful heir to the Qliphothian Tumen or the King of the Exarchate.
Ota – Strong powers to use against Ecumeme, even a threat to Charlotte herself.
Du’um – Use her powers to try and kill any powerful suitable foes including Charlotte herself.
Oko Shtorma – Heavy hitter in the war against the Ecumene

Dobrava (Hot Spot Troubles; A Calm and a Storm; Shadow of the God)
Inga Yesod – Has a lot of knowledge, so should be useful in undoing Charlotte and maybe reviving JNPL and freeing SRTR. Will also raise Nilmatrix as Undead after her defeat.
Nilmatrix - With Dobrava’s help, my perfect victory is predestined against Nilmatrix

>>96402591
>a dungeon could be a powerful entity to be devoured by
That's what I was thinking. Also thought it would work well with the were-beast curse build I was considering.

The other option that came to mind was the 'Walk off in to the sunset and never seen again' ending which could be very easily applicable. Especially with the right Mentors. But I can't remember of that death was available to protags. Really need to re-read that page.

I wonder how much metagaming, back and forth and discarded builds most of the other Outsiders did.

>>96402674
I agree, Rhuncuphre's Most Reasonable, but

>>96402596
What are you even implying? That Rhuncuphre's somehow behind spreading unworkable fanfics to dead solipsists? It's an [YMRD] plot. She's the one behind the Dragons, the Nightmares, and the Uruk, not Rhuncuphre. Rhuncuphre only managed to connect the dots on what exactly the Gods were aiming for when she considered all three tragedies.

Who is the most honest between three goddesses?

>>96402932
I mean its gotta be JNPL by default. SRTR loves drama, YMRD loves people discovering things on their own, JNPL just sort of lets you do whatever you want. The only real dishonest thing you could consider she does is pretending she's dead.

>>96402932
They're all equally dishonest rats. Kill them.

>>96402952
I mean she is kinda sorta dead

>>96396323
>CYOAs status
I plan for a September release. I'll just ask for a skeleton and drop it like I did Magi Case.

>>96396181
A somewhat accurate Outertide map. Sorry for the ass quality, it had to fit the 8MB limit. Some of the locations were regions, so I tried putting each related Outsider in a city/town/village that spoke their language. If some of the placements are wrong please let me know.

>>96403132
good job!

Sarte is the most powerful cyoa. There is no cyoa more powerful than that one.

>>96403195
Heh. No. Sartre is the regular omnipotence pill.
Improved omnipotence > regular omnipotence

>>96403219
Improvised cyoas made on a whim due to emotions(butthurt) don't count sorry

so can anyone more familiar in OR lore tell me what disasters are currently looming in the world?

I only know about 0^0 trying to kill the 3 goddesses and conquer/destroying the world, pandemonium trying to turn the world into a dream, the apocalyptic nightmare under Dis, the infinite nightmare in Darina's head that might be related to the one in Dis, and maybe the three goddesses sometimes messing too much and having to reset the world

>>96403244
Based. I as well only play CYOAs produced with no emotion whatsever on part of the author. The kind where like a machine, like a hollow-eyed shell, the author methodically wrote down option by option, his arms moved by habit rather than will. Emotions are for little children and redditors

>>96403290
Based af. /cyoag/ is for techchads

>>96403288
Pandemonium is trying to release the nightmare because 'something, something, shin megami tensei chaos route', the nightmare is being produced by the use of the old throne which could potentially be used to reawaken the second outsider and her god mecha. I'm personally immensely suspicious of the true dragons being actually dead and their gimmick is that they basically just want to replace the entirety of reality with slurs to fuck with elder gods so there's that. The majin are still dangerous as shit and the uruk are an unstoppable tidal wave of grey goo philosophical zombies.

I wonder if Fate and the Old Gods would like it if you chose no perks, gifts, companions, or mentors with Unnotable parents and then still attempted to do the right thing.

>>96403320
Looking at The One Who Did Nothing, there is a high chance

I love when a cyoa has lore to discuss

>>96403335
He did nothing, I’m thinking in this scenario you choose nothing but still fight for something

>>96403320
>I wonder if Fate and the Old Gods would like it if you are fucking useless

>>96401413
Why do you hate the Polish? They are whites that got subverted by the big nose clans, same as everywhere else.

>>96403320
I don't know what they would think. But I would think you're an idiot. Especially in the current circumstances.

>>96403132
PRO TIP
if you put a semitransparent layer (in this case, white at 75% opacity) between the background (in this case, map) and the annotations (in this case, colorful dots), then the annotations are more visible while the background is still legible.

>>96403385
You could not have chosen a worse example to showcase your tip.

>>96403335
Tuzik still had a proper build, mentors, notable parents, companions and went on adventures, he only realized that he was no world changing hero so he just decided to spend his new life in peace.

>>96403352
But you’re not. You still have parents. You still learn the languages. You can still find mentors or companions on your own. You’d really only lack inborn gifts and being anti-eugenics is probably fine.

>>96403370
That’s probably a fair take, but if you succeed in spite of that it’s all the more impressive. Stories love a struggler.

I would still side with Elder Gods (and pick the best options for their liking) even in the worst interpretation of their actions and motivations.

>>96403320
Might as well take Az to complete the nothing burger build, a Meaningless peasant. Worship 0^0 for she is the illusory patron of those who do not do anything.

Death letters can only be applied once and can't be repeated among your chosen people, right? What happens if you've run out of letters to use because if the number of people chosen exceeds the letters?

>>96403415
There are already people hating on Charlie.
The question is, what exactly do you even contribute that nobody else has, then? Yes you can find mentors on your own but so can millions of other people in the setting.

You might have real life knowledge that could be helpful, maybe? But unless you're a very special person I can't imagine it could amount to anything especially useful.
The one thing you have is you can throw your Outsider status around (those with all-seeing can verify), and in Exarchate this gives you some sway. But that's not much.

>>96403320
I think that's what the merchant Outsider did in a sense? Virtually empty build, but not the kind that fade in the background.

>>96403415
A struggler has to fight against circumstances because they have no choice, actively rejecting the bonuses just to prove that you can achieve success without them is not struggling, it's arrogance.

>>96403445
You're advocating for torture.>>96403453

>>96403467
The outsider system falls apart, fate broken, world collapses.
YMRD victory.

Seriously though, can you even get that many?

>>96403467
You cannot take more people than what the death runes allow, as stated by Malice. I don't know how you managed but you will have to drop some people.

>>96403288
well most of the threats have been mentioned by you or the other anon, besides those I guess you have Araith the growing nightmare spewing dragon, the long march trying to resurrect Aat, the Malkuthians doing their necromancy fuckery, they might be trying to raise JNPL as an undead, the bitter sickness is pretty bad.

>>96403320
>>96403415
Theoretically, IF your unaugmented self succeeds to save/change the world the goddesses (including 0^0) would either have absolute awe and/or lust towards you because they love good stories and true effort

Now in practice, even with all the metaknowedge a player can have there is no way your weak self is doing anything worthwhile, at most you could fuck off to a quiet corner while the big boys get to play

>>96403472
The merchant IS the kind that fades in the background. The joke build should have at least taken the mental gifts to actually be good at his job, but no, all it's good at is literally fading into the background.

>>96403415
You may as well take Blessing of SRTR. In fact, that's what you're essentially planning to do.

>>96403487
When I have my extended number of mentors, companions, then have to give death slots to Gunter's companions and Blazhko's mentors perhaps...

>>96403453
But you will choose to do something with nothing

>>96403470
What does being an Outsider give you that other people can’t or won’t have? More inborn gifts, mechanically speaking. Foreknowledge and the attention of the gods, which is not build dependent. The question, I think, is do you need to stack the deck to be special? To win? Or can you be good enough on your own merits, the ultimate counterpoint to Charlie. I got nothing and yet I choose to be better than you.

>>96403415
>it's the "being weaker makes me stronger" guy again

>>96403480
This I agree with. It’s why I second guess my own selection of Yat. A story loves a confident hero, but loathes an arrogant one.

>>96396181
>Already posted a build
>Prepared another one just for fun
>Have like other 3 ideas that just need to be written down
>I have mapped out the changes I would do to my past builds
I won't post most of those but it's annoying how tempting it is to do another take.

>>96403495
So I can't go full blank slate and spend everything on companions and mentors I assume.

>>96403534
I’m usually a one and done guy, but this and JRPG have so many fascinating narrative routes you can take.

>>96403516
>More inborn gifts, mechanically speaking.
No, Anon said no gifts. Even the rank and file soldiers would (mostly?) have gifts, but you don't.
I get the feeling you're in the faction that Charlie is a jobber and doesn't actually matter, and anything you do will turn out fine because it's Your Adventure? Even though she blew up an entire continent? That's a very lazy approach to a cyoa.

>>96403320
That's a 0^0 worshipper build, someone who has to rightfully earn everything he gets, the elder goddesses are kinder and less fair than that.

>>96402454
>They created eternal curse to fuck with elves.
Xian did that.
>They created Majin to fuck with elves and true dragons.
Xian did that.
>They wiped true dragon out of existence.
True dragons are evil mage-cultists who turned themselves into nightmare monsters to try and torture reality to death. Anyway it was a combination of Vtorusha, Aat, and finally Charlotte that killed them all.
>They even allowed Charlie to fucking destroy elven continent so humans are even more important and widespread.
Charlotte was already ascended by then, meaning JNPL was dead and SRTR and YMRD were in hiding.

>>96403563
Xian is the real one.

>>96403516
>What does being an Outsider give you that other people can’t or won’t have?
Death slot and fate orchestration. You and your companions are pretty much immortal fuckers who can only die in a very specific way who come into existence every hundred of years and fuck around with the world trough plot altering encounters and overall immortal degeneracy as they can't be slain in a fight.

>>96403549
No, not at all. In terms of pure strength, the only thing the cyoa gives you are inborn gifts. So stacking them synergistically is the real mechanical benefit of being an Outsider. But when it comes to killing a god, how much good is fast legs and gimmick hands going to be? Obviously, there’s a strong argument for certain eyes and such, but do these parlor tricks really amount to much in the face of Charlie? The foreknowledge and metaknowledge are your real advantages, which you get regardless of what you pick.

>>96403572
I have to wonder what his origin was. The timeline says he was created to be the progenitor of the Majin, but Tankista also says that the Elder Gods don't just generate people out of nothing. So that means he had to have some kind of non-Majin origin, so who or what made him? Was he just some seething human mage or something?

>>96403580
>Death slot and fate orchestration. You and your companions
Your own death slot could benefit you yeah, but the entire prompt was about when you don't have any cyoa-selected companions.

>>96403563
Xian was loved by SRTR.
Xian was loved by YMRD.
Aat created eternal curse, not Xian. I mean Xian (original demon lord) not Xian (outsider).
True dragons were right.
0^0 wiped all elves because Ciliren killed her mentor drakolich. That should be directed by SRTR or something.

>>96403560
Yup, but 0^0 won't even care if you do nothing, that why they are the standard followers, as they do not get punished for their own actions trough causality. A far more beneficial build is just becoming a wage slave to the Ecumene and earning your Empyreality after a few decades of serving, probably mostly just conquering the Dorian continent.

Came up with the idea of a Abrahamic zealot using dreaming magic to convince evdokia's soul swarm to pray to YHWH (really just convincing them they *are* YHWH unintentionally with brainwashing) and harnessing their collective latent divinity into a new collective god.

>>96403503
I guess it's a boon when a goddess wants you dead?

>>96403594
Welp I guess your just a immortalish guy then, might be able to learn some magic or go try murder some political figures, trough your death slot fuckery.

>>96403503
It would be funny if a guy with no gifts, mentors or companions, just picks Vedi and does nothing so the next outsider just has some guy who has no skills as a mentor using up their mentor slot.

>>96403624
Wait if you kill Emperyians while Evodokia is around doesen't she suck up their souls? Isn't that a way to get around their immortality?
Can you convince Evodokia to make a hell after life for those Ecumene soldiers you kill instead of a heaven or is she too nice?

>>96402454
Have you ever considered that the myriad of races that have fewer and fewer differences to humans as you go are not a coincidence, but at the gods slowly narrowing down the perfect form?

What will be the brave OC that releases after Outer Reincarnation?

>>96403677
Evdokia already has a screwed up moral compass, while you could convince her to make a hellish afterlife that is not a good idea as that malice could easily be redirected towards you

>>96403679
You also need to consider that all the gods look human and female. Also considering that 3/4 of the companions and mentors are women too. Its quite an easy conclusion everyone is going to ascend into waifus eventually.

We come from mud, we return to mud.

>>96403597
Aat was the Outsider loved by SRTR and YMRD, anon. Xian was his Father. Aat managed to swap places with Xian as he tried to turn him into the Eternal Curse, and used his name after that.
>Aat created the Eternal Curse
Xian (his father) did it, he tried to turn Aat (the outsider) into the Eternal Curse, but the Death rune caused a bodyswap so Xian (the father) inside Aat (the outsider's) body became the Curse, while Aat (the outsider) lived on in Xian (the father's) body.
>True Dragons were right
Their solipsism was literally incorrect since everyone's souls are real.
>0^0 wiped out elves
Because her parents were enslaved by them. This is something that happened to her because of her poor choice during her build.

>>96403724
>Their solipsism was literally incorrect since everyone's souls are real.
Those souls are fictional only I am real

>>96402585
She definitely isn't. JNPL could've ended elven immortality centuries ago if that were all she cared about, but she's the patient one who prefers comfy soul enrichment that doesn't burden mortals too much. The slow decline of the elves over centuries which was happening before Charlie showed up is much more in line with her character.

Genocide to speed things along and add drama is a SRTR thing. Charlie picked SRTR as her patron. SRTR was definitely smiling about the drama, and she'd tell you that the faster ascension is worth the pain and loss. If you're going to hate the elder gods, you should be assigning blame correctly to each one.

>>96403699
She wouldn't do that to a friend. I'll just teach her that the Ecumene are bad because they are racists and that's why they shouldn't be given peaceful afterlives inside her.

>>96403724
They weren't slaves they were indentured servants. Charlie being salty they were poor and in debt is no reason for genocide and nuking an entire continent.

How many mentors can Blazhko have? It says granted the same as you, but Gunter specifically says he gets three companions. Does Blazhko match your member count or is he just three as well?

>>96403724
How do you fuck up your own childhood the most?

>>96403800
>Now, you see those Empyreans we kill? I want you to make their spirits suffer. Ignore their cries of anguish that sound constantly in your head, they deserve to suffer for inconveniencing me.
That's worse than whatever Charlie would have her do.

>>96403813
>indentured servants
That's basically slavery anon, and the extended races show that Elves weren't that perfect. And even then, she only nuked them when they were an actual threat trying to kill her.

>>96403724
Did Xian do everything without his death rune plot armor? How early did they body swap?

>>96403815
Blazkho says he matches your mentor count, so he matches your mentor count. Gunter says 3, so he gets 3. They're different companions and they have different rules text; I don't know why you expect them to work the same.

>>96403816
Pick Fot and Aes then pull a Charlie

>>96403855
Or pick any of the abusive parents then pull a Charlie

>>96403816
Wanting to be the unique human in the elf land, probably thinking she wouldn't suffer discrimination because she's special. It's harder for it to happen to us because we're in the human-centric place and isn't actually all that racist save for some, but it's possible if you go human in the Dragon Realm or Dis, or Majin in the Exarchate.

>>96403816
probably messed up their death slots, that or she choose parents ad locations based on benefits alone and didn't consider the lore implications of what they all mean (like having human parents in a city that is strictly made up of egocentric non-humans or something similar)

>>96403848
So if I have 5 mentors, the kid has 5 mentors, is that right? I need to be absolutely sure this isn't something that is supposed to be implied that he is locked to 3 as well so my plans are not fucked up. I am fine if he is only allowed 3, but I'd rather know before I start setting everything up.

>>96403868
I meant *human in Stygia, not Dis.

>>96403873
yes, dont forget that the kid's mentors also have deathslots you have to fill

>>96403831
No Charlie is a materialist retard. She wants to attack the cycles of reincarnation to make no one ever ascend even if they deserve it. The whole afterlife thing is probably just to see if souls can be changed and eventually perma killed to cause full death like an atheist thinks happens. That is worse than anything. At least with hell they are still around, and who knows maybe they will get out and reincarnate one day.

>>96403844
We know that Aat gained twice everlasting, so he did things both before and after the bodyswap.

>>96403843
I mean the Ecumene literally hunted down all the elves in the Tsoshu continent. They even shot civillians running away to the Empire of Light and Dark. It's not like Charlie was doing self defense and the elf kids and babies were collateral damage. She was aiming for them.

>>96403816
Dice fudge Rhucuphre into being your mom, be son of Aat, take Apantoxia as a companion.

>>96403816
[JNPL] says that the more unlikely your parents and locations are, the more the story has to force the chain of events that leads there, and the result will likely not be beneficial to you. It would be something like pairing Simka with Lu'ut while living in Dis.
Charlie parents were a hero and an unotable one so the issue was mostly in the location or on her childhood encounters gone wrong. It honestly feels more like bad luck rather than a conscious mistake. Blame [YMRD]

>>96403882
Was there a word of god about this that I missed? I keep hearing it parroted but it's unclear in the actual CYOA.

>>96403901
>beeing groomed into Paxxia fucktoy by crazy evil mom since young age is a bad thing
I bet Rhupuchre would arrange so you become regent as soon as Paxxia give birth.

>>96403901
Dice fudge only allows them to be adopted parents.

>>96403882
Right, worth it for the Plan.

>>96403889
No wonder he got 2 patrons. Why were the first Outsiders so competent?

>>96403923
Yes, I meant adoptive mother obviously. By the way Aat too might qualify, depending on how it works, considering what he tried to do to his son.

>>96403921
I saw someone posted the quote from him about Gunter's companions needing death slots but that same post was asking if it was the same for Blazhko and I hadn't seen confirmation yet. I'm doing it just to be safe.
>>96403927
Because they likely were not from /tg/

>>96403923
Have Pershepha as your bio mom. Then you're a potential old throne pilot, which means charlie is definitely terrified of you and will try to murder you even if you do what she says and don't move against her.

>>96403941
*I mean taking Aat as an adoptive father.

>>96403799
Genocide is more of a YMRD thing, SRTR more focuses on individuals, she would create villains or heroes.

If choosing Apantoxia means that fate would arrange you being raped by Paxxia at 14, what would choosing Thaumiel mean? From the description of "Things that shouldn't be" event, Thaumiel teachings would be even more horrible.

>>96403800
Don't think your going to convince someone like her to change her primary beliefs. She wants to save everyone from suffering. Why the would she want to create more suffering?

What's a good death for Dobrava?

>>96403952
It's both of them. SRTR genocides happen because the villain of her tale is the sort of person who do a genocide. YMRD genocides happen because a country went broke and one of their minorities has money to steal, or because a slaver race lets themselves so outnumbered by their slaves that they can't maintain control.

0^0's destruction of the Orthrung is very much a SRTR genocide.

>>96403965
It's not necessary rape. (You) may be willing, for example. Or some aphrodisiac situation like in a shitty xianxia plot.

>>96404016
But the Ecumene hunting elves after Orthrung is more a YMRD genocide

>>96404045
Agreed

>>96403965
Its actually even younger than 14 if discount 9 month it takes for drakonid eggs to hatch.

>>96404013
Lesser Yus so she'll have a friend forever or something hard to trigger

>>96404026
Her kingdom is known for slavery practice. If you are not a drakonid yourself, there is no way it's not some rape scenario. It's not even guaranteed that Paxxia would be the only perpetrator. It's not even guaranteed that every other participant would be female.

>>96404070
Why's Paxxia bringing her entire court to rape some 13 year old?

>>96404077
It's more like you become a sex slave for some drakonid noble and he gifts you to Paxxia for a night.

>>96404070
The circumstances will change depending on your choices. If you are a draconoid training under her bodyguard or the child of either her general or her subordinate then you will have plenty of chances to meet and interact with her and for the encounter to not be rape.

What are the best mentors for Blazkho if I want to groom him to kill Rhucuphre for me?

>>96404064
Given that you're a >200 year old Erginter egg if you choose Pantorai as your father, the only limit to how young it could theoretically be is reproductive maturity. Dragon daughter is precious and wonderful, but you are probably signing up for trauma if you choose to have her.

>>96395536 (OP)
Hey, at what point in the CYOA do you enter the Toybox? do you still get to choose race and power and such if you go into the Toybox? Also are the powers in the update better? I remember them being the weakest part of the original.

>>96404026
>>96404070
>>96404077
In my version of the event. I accidentally intruded on Paxxia's mindscape while searching for Upunth (I have Dream Passage) and got roped into an intense wet dream she was having. Then thanks to some psychosomatic bullshit + fatefuckery, me cumming inside her in a dream translated into her getting pregnant in real life.

>>96404092
you need to fate trap her, I don't think you will be able to find or kill her otherwise, she is probably the sneakiest bastard in the world.

>>96404099
>Also are the powers in the update better? I remember them being the weakest part of the original.
You're still better of spending all your points on the talent ones because skill and knowledge will take you farther than most inborn gifts.

What do you think a double Godhand permanent blessing looks like? There’s a lot of talk about curses and blessings, while I have a solid grasp on what curses do I’m not so solid on the latter.

>>96404113
What if I pick Rhucuphre as one of Blazkho's mentors?

>>96404099
You enter the Toybox before you are even reborn, all your choices forming who you would be inside, so you keep everything you would have gotten with your choices except actually living the life so no companions, family or encounters.
There's more variety in powers and some good combinations but they are still on the lower scale of power. If you are expecting to suddenly blow away armies with a thought then you won't get much.

>>96404128
It can be anything beneficial as long as it doesn't exceed a 1 point gift in value.

>>96404113
Is the right play Sha + A Betrayal Most Foul + Dobrava?

>>96404140
I thought about this but I'm afraid of her manipulating him into part of her grand design or getting him to follow her teachings.

>>96404154
That's why you need to carefully pick the other mentors and their death letters to offset this. Also Blazkho is heroic person in nature, I don't think its easy to corrupt him.

>>96404092
Make her his mentor. You need to understand her tricks to counter her. That also lets you give her Tverdo, which is probably one of the hard-to-dodge letters -- it literally means "certain". You still do need to worry about undeath (undeath is a fate-fighting cheat code), so Wulfwynn and Gewrgin are also worthwhile. If you have a fourth mentor slot, I'd add in Leimeie, because the ability to secretly train an ally might give Blazkho the edge he needs to make the death stick.

>>96404148
I wonder if a blessing to instinctively feel the rhythm of the story is too broken. A blessing of empathy might be more in line with my JNPL patron. I considered a Blessing of the Three, feeling just what threads to pull to get the most amount of impact, but that feels way too strong.

>>96404128
We know from devout signature that [JNPL]'s are often about mental health and improving ordinary tools and functions [SRTR]'s is buffing might or magic [YMRD]'s is improving your odds of success and 0^0's are for countering magic. Take something on this level.

>>96404150
You can't rely on Dobrava for everything anon, else you'll get sidelined by the Narrative and become a background character in your own story. Just learn to do what she does and do it yourself.

Is knowing all languages an Empyrean thing?

>>96403868
Drakonid outside of the Dragon realm also has a chance of getting you hate-crimed, and Aranea are generally distrusted everywhere (though not actively despised) with the exception of probably Dis and Stygia, which'd be nicer to them.

>>96404150
Should work considering Dobrava can kill Nilmatrix don't see why she couldn't do the same with Rhucuphre

>>96404240
Don't think so, just that most of the empyreans you see in the cyoa are very powerful and are polyglots

>>96404141
I see.
So it is best to just go unnotable do you think? Since you won't be raised by those parents anyways? or are the inborn gifts worth spending points on good parents?

>>96403965
According to Tankista, Thaumiel's version of the technique doesn't require sacrifices or you organically birthing life, and can be done with test tubes. So you don't need to worry about Thaumiel making you birth monsters or anything like that, though that doesn't mean she won't just mundanely molest you for fun.

>>96404240
Nilmatrix only knows Entramithraic and I would think it reasonable that's all the rank and file Empyreans speak.

>>96404252
Main reason I'm asking is because no other character aside from the gods knows every language, even the ancient schemer Rhucuphre doesn't know every language while Omega, Thaumiel, and Keter all do.

>>96404233
>else you'll get sidelined by the Narrative
Just pick equally important encounters and have Omega in your team.
This way you create two plot lines with B-team while also forcing Charlie to focus on B-team (Dobrava, Gunter, Blazhko).
This together with proper death runes enforces Epic Tale with deep lore and plot winning your favor of two Elder Gods.

>>96404265
I'm convinced that's just because of Charlie's meddling since Nilmatrix still needs to be able to blend in as anyone else and be capable of avoiding all suspicion, which wouldn't make sense if she's the only person you know that only knows Entramithraic

Are there any restrictions that we know of on choosing letters for Majin Reswapning Point?

>Dobrava crush his skull.
>Dobrava twist his balls.
>Dobrava make me some chicken tendies.
>Dobrava change my diapies.
>Dobrava turn on my nightlight, I'm scared of the dark.
>Dobrava check under my bed for the scawy monster.
>huh Dobrava is becoming strangely popular amongst the masses, they're chanting her name instead of mine.
>hub Dobrava just got crowned as the empress of humanity after killing 0^0 in a 1v1.
>AAAEEEEEI!!! WHY ARE THE ELDER GIVING DOBRAVA ALL THE ACCOLADES EVEN THOUGH SHE LITERALLY DID EVERYTHING, AM SUPPOSED TO BE LE OUTSIDER REEEEEE!!
Dobravafags are literally turning themselves into NPCs of their own stories. What a sad sight to see.

>>96404286
*Respawning Point

>>96404259
Meh. I would prefer the darkest possible interpretation for every single event and choice. Just to push evil old gods agenda even futher.

>>96396181

> Qarg the Conqueror (Buki)
> [0^0]
>“The Anti-God, who in their hubris thinks they mastered the story. Never stop an enemy from making a mistake.”

>Male
>Burn the Future (x13), Outer Tide
>Mother: Unnotable One, Yorgha of the Imortalii (Yer)
>Father: Unnotable One, Wlador of the Imortalii (Yery)
Born of tribal folk from the deep interior of the continent who travelled far serving as petty 'labourers.' Of the violent variety who crossed the border into muddish territory. Only one of their children lived to adulthood.

>Tumen Race
With hair of red and swarthy complexion, fittingly bloodthirsty and maddened for an Outsider.

> Insular / Everman
Not particularly well educated, Qarg learned only what his parents and employers beat into him, forcing him to become a jack of all trades in learning. A man more inclined to grunt like a fool to play his part, hiding his understanding until it is much too late for his 'master'.

> Mentors; Gewrgrin Aureole, Kilyn of Othrung
Innocuous teachers, a half dead woman in a box and a book. Fitting for the secrets they hide.

> Companions; Su'uq, Oka Shtorma (Lesser Yus)
A fairy and a giant. Good enough for a maddened Tumen mercenary.

> Encounters; A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll

> Death; VEDI
> “Let the future decide. For now, for a long century we have war to make.”

> Youth; Emancipation, Military, Leadership Training, Journey of the Self
Misery breeds hunger, hunger breeds ambition, ambition breeds strength.

>Bestial Strength, Unburnt Hide, Boiling Blood, Bulletproof Skin, Iron Stomach, Second Wind, Last Breath, Wereplague, Cognitive Speed, Attentiveness, Wisdom, Martial Instinct, Mitigating Grip (x2) & Jet Kick (x2)
Enough to begin climbing. Qarg would never be satisfied, always seeking new strength outside what he was granted by Providence.

>>96404289
I thought she was limited to using her bullshit on only three encounters?

>>96404257
Nta, but Tankista mentioned that everything you would have been thaught by your choices will be thaught to you by [SRTR] using hand puppets, even if this is more important for mentors it has a certain importance.
Also inborn gifts are useful.

>>96404286
It should be a template that Dei could use, so something like Multilocular O or any of the final four letters should be out of the question. Anything further than Yat would also be weird since they are hypothetical letters.

I know how magic works in OR on a fundamental level. It’s very clear about that. What I’m not sure about is how it translates to the everyday person or mage. I assume plenty of people know the right Godscript combo for fireball. Going off that, different mages may have worked out different modifiers for said fireball. And as you complicate the concept and intent, it gets more and more dangerous as the script might have unintended consequences. Let alone using letters without clear meaning. It seems to be a system that’s both limited and unlimited depending on a ton of variables. It’s likely safer to try and impact the external world than directly affect the self or other beings. Further, the Majin are living proofs that even one letter can be interpreted in a myriad of ways. With all that said, how are YOU going to use magic, anon?

>>96404302

> Goal; FUNDUMENTUM
> “It is unfortunate that the God of Causality conquered the world and suffused it with sickly weakness. Poluden will be broken. Here, from the chattel races I will carve out a new kingdom. She has done this to herself. Deluding herself about her position. 'Casuality this.' 'Deserve that.' We deserve nothing. We only have what is given, or taken. And I will take from those you made weak. Oh, Ever-Queen, I will tear down your walls, I will slay your legions, I will shatter your heaven, I will take that Blood which you horde for yourself, and I will eat you alive.”


This is my dumb 'I am going to be a damn martial freak' build. I leave magic, plots, intrigue, artifacts, and all those things up to the rest of you. Because this guy with his two functioning braincells is going to gorilla his way around unless he's needed for something specific. The Dwarf inspired me. I want to smash skulls and kill horrors with him.

>>96404289
Anon, this is in fact being like Elder God and using Outsider System to set up quasi-Outsider System-like plot to further your own goals.

>>96404278
Wouldn't Gunter, get eclipsed by Blazkho if you put him on his team? That would pretty funny and sad at the same time.

>>96404298
Okay Charlie.

>>96403385
Any place in mind for Qarth to start? It sounds like Psechanka but I wanna clarify.

>>96404311
Sounds like Khier, Ouk or Yee should work in this case, thanks.

Beside
>Kilyn
>Evdokia
>Blazkho
>Omega
>Su'uq
>Oko
Who would you say has their life bettered by being chosen by you?

>>96404240
>>96404265
I suspect that it's a specific empyrean subtype thing (see the race entry in the bonus docs). Angels having permanent Tongues is a D&D thing that Tank could've reasonably borrowed, and Omega is young enough that her human father is only 40 when you're born. Omega, Thaumiel, and Keter are all probably an empyrean subtype that naturally knows all language, and Nilmatrix is a different subtype.

>>96404321
Not if they’re GAY together

>>96404308
So my headcanon was right, SRTR really will be my mom

>>96404312
>how are YOU going to use magic, anon?
Making new lifeforms.

>>96404329
That works.