Thread 96409340

Decennalia edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms:
>>96400713

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question:
Feeling nostalgic?

First for stormie a fuck, reikchads rise up

since there is not a real thread question, have a new one:

When will we get more Blacktalon?

>>96409354
We speak English here sir
>>96409340 (OP)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/5rbh6wc0/history-of-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-the-hour-of-ruin/

New retrospective article, this time for 4th. Talks a little bit about chorfs and how they're apparently marching on a fyreslayer stronghold in Aqshy. We'll find out more next week supposedly.

>>96409340 (OP)
>TQ
For the good times, before 3rd edition shat the bed and 4th invalidated a good chunk of my army? Yes.

>>96409378
>We’ll be taking a peek into the future with a final article next week, about what may be coming for the Mortal Realms.

Yeah sounds like we're getting some kind of small teaser to round out the series, maybe a new roadmap?

>>96409378
>The Goretide, once mere days away from reaching the heights of its former barbaric glory, has collapsed into an (un)civil war with the ascendence and disappearance of Korghos Khul. Still, Khorne cares not, and all that.

>>96409382
I think they'll talk a bit about the coming of the chorfs and how they interact with the skaven etc, little teaser yeah. Roadmap would be really cool.
Also, both the sunblood and mantrapper got rules for bigmar today.

>>96409378
>On the Everchosen’s home turf, Gordrakk continues his rampage across the Eightpoints. His target appears to be the Meteoric Gate, the Arcway to Azyr, sealed by Sigmar himself in the Age of Chaos. What he plans to do when he gets there is anyone’s guess, but there will likely be a percussive element to the proceedings.
will he do it this time?

Damn looks like NH is eternally fucked now, the supplements are written after the tomes so they're fully aware of how shit they are and they still double down on eviscerating the cairn wraith and upping the SoG coach points.

I doubt the fuckwad that wrote the rules is going anywhere before 6e so 5e probably going to be just as excellent, maybe they'll promote him to lead creative if he isn't already.

If listbuilding restrictions on heroes were completely lifted and regiments were 1-2 heroes+3 units(4 for general regiment), I would accept the rule of 3 being enacted.

>>96409340 (OP)
>Feeling nostalgic?
I miss the times when Disciples of Tzeentch could run Mutalith Vortex Beast. (And Blades of Khorne could run Slaughterbrute.)

>>96409485
willing to bet the rules writer lost fucking hard to a nighthaunt army in 3rd and is now fucking them over out of spite. Oddly thematic for the army though.

>>96409585
If I remember right, in 3e where nh weren't doing particularly hot and then harridans received like a 10-20 point bump out of the blue for a battlescroll, so I could believe 100% believe this actually happened.

>>96409511
rule of 3 for this game doesn't make much sense because 3 reinforced aggradons or 3 reinforced zombies holds the same weight, and the army sizes are smaller in AoS.

Maybe a 750 point cap on the same warscroll for 2k?

>>96409340 (OP)
>Only 10 years old? At your age I was already 15.

>>96409699
primaris are younger than stormcasts

>nose gets bigger with each reforging
BOGGED

>>96409340 (OP)
>tq

Hard to feel Nostalgic, I got into this shit a few years back through Underworlds. Until then I spent most of my time being one of those shitters "Ah man I wouldn't touch Age of Smegmar, they killed fantasy for this slop?" Then eventually just stopped giving a shit, played some games, bought some models, found some enjoyment from it.

Give it a few years, then I'll tell ya how nostalgic I feel.

>>96409398
For 150 points this guy seems pretty solid.m

Bring very durable for a hero and making surrounding units also durable against certain armies.

>>96409398
I am going to lose my fucking mind, this is like the 4e design in a nutshell. d3 2+ deal the damage. I'm so sick of rolling d3's.

i keep hearing rumors here and... other places... about some helsmith rule reveals/leaks but i haven't found them. shame

>>96410013
it's possible that people at nova might be getting a look at models and tome right now

>>96409904
Oh you finished your observatory anon, good work.
>>96409982
Yeah his aura effect doesn't seem half bad. Cool sculpt too, so it's nice to see him be useful.
So with those two legal now are there any other spearhead exclusive recycled units? I think those were the last of them but I might be forgetting some.

>>96410059
they must show me

>>96410132
>Oh you finished your observatory anon, good work.

Thanks! Now I'm probably gonna finish assembling my barrow guard and get those painted up!

Are all forms of undead corrupted dirty stinking magical radioactive degenerates or did they change that from WFB? Is Shyish still responsible for all forms of undead?

>>96409398
>mantrapper got rules for bigmar today.
ogors not getting squatted?

>>96410280
You can reanimate corpses with electricity to make arcwalkers. They still stink because they're corpses, but no necromancy is involved

>>96410280
The technical details haven't been elaborated on. The wizard hero from Cursed City claimed that necromancy harnessed a corrupt form of amethyst magic, but again, no specifics, so take it or leave it.

>>96410303
I wouldn't mind a more sentient zombie collective of experiments done to spite Nagash, could possibly be a faction started up by a reincarnated Drachenfells who's more pissed that Nagash has once again basically claimed the entire winds of Death for himself.

So Drachenfells using the power of curses and science creates his own death faction.

>>96410134
It's pretty bog standard stuff, the coolest thing is the melee scroll for the construct fights twice every combat phase but honestly can't remember if it's once per turn army. On the flipside it only has 4 attacks when it's not given any buffs, so it's more of a grinder unit with 2+ save 10 health.

Outside of that I can't remember anything remarkable about the tome but I'm also generally not a fan of 4e.

>>96410281
I mean beasts got a new beastlord not long before their squatting was announced.
That being said I don't think ogres are going anywhere for the time being. I think they'll get their old stuff refreshed later this edition

>>96409378
I love that Kragnos was completely shelved. Absolute mistake of a model.

Does the anon from last thread still have the PDF of Covens of Blood?

>>96410436
https://files dot fm/u/nxypawghv8

>>96410132
>I think those were the last of them but I might be forgetting some.
Considering mantrapper and sunblood there's a lot of units they could back in like this

>>96410281
I think this something for fifth. Fourth already had a lot of stuff, even a new army. I would guess most armies get a unit, hero and spells at best.
If you touch ogers you need to redo a lot of kits at once.

>>96410436
Good, fuck that shit ass pony. I can't wait until he gets his army or just leaves the game completely, so my books don't have to be balanced around a 3d6 charge.

>>96410554
Neat, new lord celestant on foot.

Not neat, that pose looks dumb as fuck and the face looks like they were going for that terrible "Cats" movie that came out a few years back.

>>96410505
I think the usual rumoursmongers hinted at ogres recently, I could see them coming sooner rather than later. I assume all the bcr but yhetees are staying, and they just redo the glutton/irongut/leadbelcher trifecta, plus maybe two or three resin characters in plastic. Throw in gnoblars and a named character and that's a good update.
>>96410554
Huh, wasn't expecting that. His armour is cool but helmet and pose are kind of awkward.

>>96410601
I hear ogors are going to be souped in with fyreslayers and that beastmen would come back as a supplementary force but only for SoB if you run Kragnos.

>>96410606
Lots of muscle there

>>96410606
Yeah, it's the rumoured dogs of war army. We're getting more flexible RoR for everything in the book including Bretonnians who escaped the end times through a portal to a pocket dimension

>>96410359
>>96410505
i could almost see them just giving up on ogors and throwing them in as dogs of war for TOW
>>96410359
have you seen any spellz

>>96410628
And Tomb Kings, and they'll reprint several old resin models as plastic but no confirmation yet except for a reincarnated Kurt Helborgh returning with the mustache rule.

If you have a bigger mustache than your opponent, at the start of the game roll a d3, on a 2+ you can spend a command point and deal d3 damage to one target in the 2nd phase of the game (once per army)

My dad works at GW and told me all of this, so please don't leak it to reddit.

HoH ptg snippet on the new WH+ video.

Some chorf stuff on warhammer tv
Excuse the resolution, I stole this from TGA

>>96410655
>>96410656
Lel what are the odds

>>96410656
The mech bull looks way better from this angle.

>>96410656
the bvlls are fucking huge as hell, damn.

Full army shot. Artillery looks pretty big.
>>96410670
Right?

>>96410656
The bull mount looks utterly miserable to paint if you don't have wicked freehand/nmm skills and/or an airbrush

>>96410682
>>96410656
Hnnrrggggggg I need them on my shelf so badly
My wallet is bursting at the seams with all this money I want to throw at chorfs oh I know you want this money GW all this throbbing cash just put out the pre order already

>>96410653
>A return to 1st edition mechanics
VGH FINALLY TRVE SOVL

>>96410682
I dunno what their obsession is with making gi-fuckin-gigantic artillery. It's like no one on the creative team plays the actual game to realize the armies and mat are too small for that bullshit.

>>96410735
The only arty that I personally have an issue with (in regards to its size) is the mortek crawler.

>>96410735
A bit of an odd choice for the centrepiece treatment, yeah. The mighty leader or towering monster crashing through enemy lines, the approximately divine sorcerer floating over the battlefield... nope, just some dudes staying way back behind their own lines tossing shit (possibly literally) at the enemy.

>>96410628
Bro put me in the screenshot!

>>96410656
I want them to show the sprues. I'm hoping in vain that the bull centaurs have weapon bits besides the maces and glaives.

>>96410748
doomdiver is obnoxiously big as well but doesn't suffer as much since gitz have enough bodies to screen it

the crawler makes zero sense beyond 2e pointing and board size, a lot like their faction terrain

helsmiths look to skew elite, don't have high hopes for their artillery unless it's got retreat and shoot or shoot in combat.

>>96410653
Yknow I've been hearing people meme on the joke rules for years, imagine my disappointment when I found out like 2 weeks ago those were basically all legends rules for discontinued shit.
>>96410677
Yeah bull centaurs have been enormous since the forgeworld days. I think they were reasonably sized in their 3th/4th edition incarnation though.

>>96410800
Should I pick up a crawler? I've kinda trimmed down my OBR stuff a bit to just a bunch of Morghasts and the heroes, think it's worth it?

>only effects itself
>effect can fail
>so 1/3 of the time this unit is just worse for no reason
>only one unit can use it per turn so you cant even bring multiples

i fucking hate 4th edition so much

>>96410656
Oh shit my idea is viable

>>96411044
the shart

>>96411044
did a little repositioning in photoshop, here's how big those pieces are together

>>96410696
Nah, it looks dead easy to do with basic skills
a coat of metallic, a wash and edge highlights
now, you CAN also do it with advanced volumetrics and freehands, but the above will do

What would you have changed to prevent the flopping of the Helsmiths?

>>96411088
Oh right, Shar'tor and the Legion of Azgorh might be properly canonized in an AoS battletome.

>>96411165
please

>>96411088
>>96411165
The one and only. I do hope they mention him at least, as a nod. I wonder if there's any people that still have him from way back. They couldn't have sold too many of him.
>>96411089
cheers anon, looks kind of doable honestly.

>>96411165
Don't count on it. The Khorne tomes have never once namedropped Vorgorath & Skalok, not even while that model was still being sold.

>>96410682
To any Chorfs players from the old days, what else are they missing? The Orruk slaves? The weird fire monsters from Total war? Did they even have wolf riders?

>>96411206
eh...thats a bit of a different case though. They can remake sharter into plastic, big lad that he is.
The forge world dragons probably impossible for the scale aos is at currently.

>>96411214
Mostly just the Iron Daemon, K'dai, and Lammasu.

>>96411214
elite chorfs
gun glaives, their more armored up evolution
lammasu
hoblin riders, hobbo heros
black orcs
the fire demons
uh...........................................Big titty chorfs with hips that can send a man into a coma.

>>96410696
I plan to paint my Taurus up as if it's made of stone, like an animated statue kind of thing so it won't the hardest thing to do.
Want to make it look metallic though? Aye, that'd fucking suck.

>>96410682
>>96410656
NEED. NOW!

>>96410677
>the bvlls are fucking huge as hell, damn.
Just makes 'em easier to paint, I won't complain lol

>>96411229
Anon you know there's no such thing as big titty chorfs, they go to war over the fyreslayers over who gets them,

>>96410574
meh stormcast heads and even weapon arms are simple to swap out.

>>96411214
>>96411229
in addition to this there's some more warmachines and I guess a big bull centaur taur'ruk.

I wonder if hashut can impart his "blessings" onto vessels now.

>>96411330
You should crop this to cover more of her nipple in the left corner. If it's even slightly visible then the jannies can shoot you for it

>>96411386
Nah it's fine, just big areola

>come out with one of the best model ranges GW has ever done
>the rules and prices are so bad no one touches them

this was almost as big of a disaster as cursed city. how could they drop the ball on gitmob that hard?

>>96411375
Isn't that what bull centaurs have always kinda been ?

>>96411414
ah, I meant vassals, slaves, laborers.

>>96410837
it's ok right now, extremely match up dependent.

the rare times I play my obr I always bring 1-2, not because it's good, but because the army is mind numbling boring without it.

>>96411405
I like the new gitz stiff a lot, I just can't pretend like I'm in a rush to buy them all when their rules are where they're at.

>>96411423
>god of tyranny bestowing blessings unto slaves
It'd be sort of off brand, no?

>>96411396
I'm telling you this as someone who got banned last week for posting "nsfw" art with less visible areola than your pic. Just a heads up, it's all up to the jannies and how they feel that day

>>96411518
Wish me luck anon, may the jannies approve of some dark iron smut.

Rakarth Flesh is very thin out of the pot and has clumps about the size of very small pebbles or large sand in it. How fucked is this pot of paint?

>>96411537
mix your paint retard

>>96409378
>In Shyish, the Ossiarch of the Petrifex Elite have been testing the outer defences of Lethis, though these regimented assaults are masking their true goal of harvesting titanic bones from the bottom of Lake Lethis.
Ayo?
>>96411405
They're alright, but they're insanely expensive and shit in game like you said. I think another issue is that they don't really fit with the rest of gits too, so existing gitz players aren't too keen to pick them up, especially with the first two points against them. Same problem vice versa, people who DO like gitmob are going to have to build a whole army with thin, which is again shit with prices and rules. Gw have no-one to blame but themselves for this one.
>>96411423
Like >>96411506 said it's kind of against his whole schtick imo. Hashut very much seems the type to cold-heartedly favour only whoever's the big dog in charge at a given moment.

>>96411561
I have two agitator balls in it and a vortex mixer, plus manual shaking. Pretty sure that's not it, but thanks for the input, retard-anon.

>>96411599
>act like a retard
>actually i did all this stuff that is not retarded but i just didnt mention it

>>96409378
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/5rbh6wc0/history-of-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-the-hour-of-ruin/
would love to see the campaign start next year instead of 2027.

>>96411622
NTA but you're reaching

>>96411622
I would assume that if someone is asking if their paint is fucked, they know enough to try shaking the shit out of it. I would never assume that someone is dumb enough to not shake their paint.

>>96411537
>size of very small pebbles or large sand
People describing the size of things using comparisons that vary in size will never not grind my gears

when the fuck is felgryn coming out, I WANT MY GHOUL I WANT MY GHOUL

>>96411823
3 more days mate, they've been on pre order all week

>>96410013
Honest wargamer allegedly saw the book and said he was not a fan

>>96410682
looks like the artillery is on a 100mm, golem is on a 90-100mm

so thats like decently big but not insane, important to remember that those infantry are in fact dwarves and goblins. they are smol

>>96411910
dishonest rob has as much access as we do

>>96411910
>man who makes his salary discussing drama and news has claimed there is drama and news that nobody else can confirm

>>96411972
but you can get more basedface thumbnails out of hype than dooming

>>96411972
>news that nobody else can confirm

he leaked the daemon power points like a week before >>96410655
corroborated it, so i'd say its probably real, he got a copy from an insider or a leaked copy from someone else who knows a guy

>>96411032
>>96410007
Agreed anon. I am so fucking sick of 4.0 rules making. It's either the most bland, useless ability in the world OR they give you an ability that I useful but has a 1 in 3 chance of doing NOTHING.

What the fuck is going on with the AoS rules team? I thought they had fixed all these stupid "Roll X+ to use the ability you paid 100+ points for" shit? Are they actively trying to make the game worse?

>>96411997
I think it’s safe to say he still has a few friends inside GW that can feed him info when the development process reaches a point past one that would be able to pinpoint them as the leak source.

>>96412010
I'm still mad about the necromancer.

>>96411960
He got the entire book leaked to him

Is the upcoming Nighthaunt Spearhead good by the standard of those sorts of boxes? Don’t know if I’ll go deeper than Spearhead, but I would like one of the Death factions.

How do you feel about the various spinoff games made for AoS? These include but might not be limited to:
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar Roleplay: Soulbound
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Bladeborn
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Champions
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Crypt Hunters
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Gorechosen
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Stormvault
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The Rise & Fall of Anvalor
>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Warcry
>Warhammer Underworlds
>Warhammer Quest: Cursed City
>Warhammer Quest: Lost Relics
>Warhammer Quest: Shadows Over Hammerhal
>Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower

>>96412276
>>Warhammer Quest: Lost Relics
???
What was in that one?

>>96412302
>>>Warhammer Quest: Lost Relics
Most of those he listed were those barnes and noble exclusive board games that were just underworlds characters reprints.

>>96411214
Not an old chorf player but the three things steering me more toward TOW chorfs than HoH are greenskins (beyond the basic hobgoblin chaff), the iron daemon, and infernal guard with fireglaives. I never liked k'daai; they're really ugly.

>>96412276
I don't think anyone ever plays these games

>>96412276
Warcry is really fun, and very playable with people not usually into boardgaming. Underworlds was nice but since they dropped card art I've lost interest.
>>96412326
To each their own but I always thought the forgeworld take on them was ugly as fuck, though maybe that's just the signature forgeworld grimy-ness of the resin. The bull centaur someone posted earlier especially looks horrendous, though the kdaai are probably even worse. I do like the warmachines, since that weird grimyness kinda fits, and drazhoath also looks quite cool. Not a massive fan of nuchorfs either, wish they went closer to the oldchorf aesthetic. But I recognize that was kind of a pipe dream.

>>96412401
>The bull centaur someone posted earlier especially looks horrendous,
Oh, I agree with you there. I hate those, with their butt heads and lack of clothing, and think they're the biggest design failing in LoA. I can't wait to get the HoH ones.

>>96412276
>>Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The Rise & Fall of Anvalor
How the hell was this not the setting of the Aqshy Underworlds season? Fucked up.

Does the SBGL Battletome have the Deathrattle Tombhost rules in it or is the other Spearhead?

>>96412240
Its on the low end for discount. Most big AoS list likely won't often include harrows or spirit torment, the rest is probably usable. The book is very new, in spearhead itself no idea.

>>96412448
>Does the SBGL Battletome have the Deathrattle Tombhost rules in it
yes

>>96412448
Yeah it does.
For whatever reason the actual production of the Spearhead box has been delayed.
You can just get the fomo box and a pack of Deathrattles for the Tombhost if you want to play it, though.

What the FUCK is Tyrion doing and why doesn't he have a model yet?

>>96412687
hes stuck being a discount night haunt model

>>96412699
(wrong elf)

>>96412687
he's looking for malerion, but he's blind, while malerion doesn't want to be seen

>>96412240
The discount isn't great honestly, it's like 20%, when they're usually around 30 to 35, 40 if you're lucky.
>>96412687
He's fucking around with malerion a bit. The two new elf twins took the last bit of rhe phoenix that abraxia destroyed, we'll probably see that come into play.

>>96412744
>>96412889
Now that Chorfs are coming out I wonder how long it'll be before the 'dark elf' rumors start coming true.

>>96413185
I feel like up until last year we've had more umbraneth rumours than chorf ones, they're basically as old as the game itself.
I hope that if/when they come malerion looks like this. I don't care what anyone says this shit looks great.

>>96412744
i know what original meme this is building off of but i keep reading the binocular reflections as eye glints giving this picture a very unsettling aura

>>96413219
How has it been a decade and not even a whisper of anything for shadow aelves or Malerion getting models? I'd have though at least maybe a warband by now. Fucking Cathay became real before them.

>>96413547
My tinfoil hat is that Malerion's faction has gone back to the drawing board at least twice.

>>96409374
unknown but certainly before the end of the year

>>96411762
Here's day old rakarth flesh from my palette, totally dry. Those are the clumps I get.

>>96411330
link to the full image please.

>>96413547
>>96413578
The DoK warcry warband looks exactly like what'd you think ulgu shadow elves would look like. I'm surprised they haven't really followed that up much, connecting it to the umbraneth and stuff. I'm very curious what they'll do with malerion, surely gw knows how much money they could squeeze out of him. I think it's also kind of inevitable he'll get souped with DoK. Once again I'm hoping for more tenebrael shard type designs.

>>96411537
Dried clumps of paint in your paint isn't good. If it's new get an exchange, if it's old you could try to filter it through a pipe screen. Just get a water bottle cap, cut a 10mm hole in the top, glue a pipe screen over it and pour the paint thrugh into a new bottle slowly.

>>96413640
That's a bad pot. You could try mixing in a tiny amount of ipa into the pot

>>96411386
I don't think they'll punish you for a nipple, but they will if you show sausages, clams, and chocolate donuts.

>>96413673
>>96413677
It's been like this since I got it and it's a few years old. I'll just replace it. I'm so mad I didn't just put one in my cart when I was buying stuff the other day. Or go for Griffon Claw for a probably higher quality alternative.

>>96413668
We know they’re going to be called the ulgurothi legions, but I would 100% bet they’re going not going to ruin the DoK’s vibe by souping them and that they’re going to be heavily armored mirrors to the lumineth’s lighter aesthetic.

>>96412276
Soulbound is a great TTRPG and you can tell by the way c7 has continually aped its mechanics for every other rpg or expansion they’ve made since it came out

>>96413708
>heavily armoured
Sign me the fuck up. Where are you getting the name from btw, never heard that before?
As for souping, idk 5 elf battletomes is a lot, especially when 3 of the 5 are going to be kind of evil edgy bastards.

>>96413734
Forgot pic

>>96413715
Does anyone have the Soulbound rulebook?

>>96413664
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9289886&tags=34-san+dwarf

>>96410280
Necromancy is a perversion of shyishian magic, it twists the natural cycle of life and death. It’s not dhar or whatever like WHF, but an unnatural corruption of amethyst magic defined by crossing that line of not respecting death as an inevitable finality. Nagash brought it to the mortal realms where it hadn’t existed before (though people had probably independently discovered it at various points, like some of the last remaining Draconith did, but there was no conception of it as a widespread or well established thing) and spread it around to people.

>>96413734
Malerion ruling over the ulgurothi legions was mentioned in the 3e DoK book, they’re his various client states that do his bidding. Nothing specifically says they’re armored or what they look like, but I feel like it’s fairly obvious as a design space no other aelf faction touches and one that both inverts the Lumineth & expands on an element of the WHFB dark elves

Will My Little Pony exist in Age of Sigmar? I say this because it existed in Warhammer Fantasy.

I painted this guy as a demon prince for this month's collage over on 40kg but you guys might like it too.

>>96413941
And shield closeup.

>>96413941
>>96413952
Looks sweet.

Aaaahh, i need HoH now!!

>>96413981
Take some stats

>>96413986
Nothing on the Cohorts? I'm curious how elite the HoH baseline is.

Are there other factions with a command/bodyguard unit like this? I love small elite units with unique guys. It'd be really cool if there was an option for something like to attach any general to.

i am a straight white male Chorf enjoyer... but i'm kinda liking DoK as well. probably because i like the underdark and both factions remind me of Duergar and Drow. maybe i'll end up getting that DoK warcry warband or a spearhead as a later side project...

>>96413708
>the ulgurothi legions
So what DoK models are gonna get squatted for UL?

>>96413578
My tinfoil hat theory is that GW really was planning to squat Slaanesh from both their settings as a whole at one point and Malerion was drawn up as the new fourth Chaos God as that one promo art asset suggested and that they walked that back and found a new place for him in the lore in the Order pantheon but never really conceptualized what his forces would look like as a force not associated with Chaos.

>>96414187
Oh, definitely. That's actually a part of why I think he was sent back to the drawing board initially.

>>96414187
>but never really conceptualized what his forces would look like as a force not associated with Chaos.
Setting aside the Chaos part I can see the struggle in where Dark Elves would carve out a niche in Order. Order has a lot of factions as-is.

>>96414187
What makes you think they were gonna squat Slaanesh and make Malerion a Chaos God?

>>96414241
A number of little things that are totally not proof of anything, hence calling it a tinfoil hat theory. It did seem like they were setting up to remove or sideline Slaanesh in 40k at the same time though with the Ynnari plot before they cancelled all their books suddenly.

>>96414241
NTG but Slaanesh having no releases and an anaemic army list for quite a while + a strange early piece of art that featured a different symbol in place of Slaanesh's on a chaos star

>>96414250
I imagine the Emperor’s Children are a major wrench in that plan (assuming it’s real), though it’s only anecdotal people seem to love Noise Marines with how they always immediately sell out every time they restock. Exploring the other parts of Chaos seems like a neat concept in general though.

>>96414276
>I imagine the Emperor’s Children are a major wrench in that plan (assuming it’s real),
No actually the fact that Noise Marines were a severely outdated resin upgrade kit for years supported it
We're talking about years ago, not now

>>96414289
Oh okay I get it now.
>James thinks to shake things up with Chaos
>”Or I could sell a new Space Marine kit later down the line….”

>>96413664
you jackin off to duradin anon?

>>96414476
Is that really the worst thing in Warhammer to jerk it to?

>>96414506
I never said it was a bad thing, and 34-san's a swell guy.

what do you want out of new Chaos Spearheads?

>>96410391
>Kragnos
Best thing that came out because of Kragnos was the brief meme posting and the crack shipping of him with Alarielle
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/83310507/#83316129

>>96414608
Daemon Refresh I would give my soul to the dark gods for it. But limiting it to just the spearhead themselves, making them more themed would be fun like some of the more recent spearheads. Like say a Cult one for Tzeentch with a Lord of Change (Or new slightly smaller centerpiece) and his entourage of Acolyte cultists + the Gaunt Summoner who pulled off his ritual. More fluffy stuff like that.

>>96414608
I want them to release a themed spearhead for every old warcry warband with a few kits added to fill them out. Something more interesting then one unit of warcry guys one unit of marauders and one monster or unit of cavalry. Maybe even two god aligned warbands, a unit of battleline either std or God aligned, and a medium monster or cavalry unit

>>96414047
This model is so boring in so many ways especially compared to hoe interesting the rest of the unit are

>Find AoS box set I want cheaper than retail.
>Vague sense of discomfort because for the same price I could get an entire Mantic Mega Army and use it for agnostic stuff/CoS/ToW.

Man.

>>96414187
Yeah I think that's a pretty common theory. Especially combined with vashtorr being a thing in 40k well before EC got refreshed. We saw it as early as archaon not having a slaanesh head

>>96414820
What are you more excited about. Pick that one

>>96414823
Slaanesh is represented by the cock

>>96414732

I have my fingers crossed for the next Tzeetch Spearhead to include the Jade Iconoclast warband. It would make me so happy

>>96414817
It's mostly the head that's lame, i saw a bunch of cool conversions using that body

>>96413854
That is not canon because it comes from Total War Warhammer and all the information shown there is not canon, for example showing Repanse as the only female knight of Bretonnia when in reality there have always been female knights.

>>96414828
The problem is that regardless of what I am excited about, all my games happen via Tabletop Simulator anyway. Still, thank you Anon.

>>96414875
I mean sure anything can be made cool via kitbashing. I just feel like out of the box there are very fewinteresting features of that sculpt unless you're super excited to paint a guy in robes, which is fun, but also a common enough trope that there is always a more interesting guy in robes to paint besides that guy

>>96414934
Then it's even less important to stress about it. You don't need a full irl army to play on tts, you can buy your favorite 3rd party sculpts, and your favorite gw sculpts, and it'll never affect your gaming. You don't need to buy certain units you can focus exclusively on the stuff you want to paint and ignore the whole game portion outside tts

>>96414817
Definitely ruined by the head. I like it besides that.

>>96414936
The robe is pretty cool, with the sword sticking out from within. That's why people use that bit for conversions

>>96414143
Good

>>96414160
None.
They will be sub to Morathi

>>96414160
The horse riding version of the warlocks

>>96414613
that was really some forced cringe

>>96409340 (OP)
None as I was out of the hobby when AoS launched.
I was very confused getting back in.

My nostalgia is for 6th Fantasy, OG Necromunda etc.

But, I do want to see my Druchii live on.
Executioners should become a DoK unit.
Corsairs should be a CoS sub faction which focuses on piracy, sea faring and monsters.
Want to see CoS be like that, very distinctly different city rules, including stuff like "must take" and "can't take" certain units and have different play styles

>>96414817
an assassin shouldn't be a dynamic rock hopping gesture figure
filtered retard

>>96414250
>fake image
>lead writer says it's fake
Surely this proves it? The launch box booklet clearly shows a new Slaanesh symbols because the regular one is racy and they were perhaps tying Morathi to Slaanesh initially, which fits past material

>>96412088
then hed show it for views retard

>>96415486
the image isn't fake, it's actually in the book
and david guymer isn't the lead writer, he's the writer of that book, but he's not the one that adds the summaries and glossaries and quick primers in the book, that's someone at gw who copy pasted an outdated early fluff bible
that's not a new slaanesh symbol, it's specifically malekith's crown, not morathi's, not slaanesh's, not a skaven's, malekith's

>>96413941
>>96413952
That shield is insane anon

>retards still falling for 2016 memes
You know that was made here right?

>>96415616
The artwork was cropped from the rulebook, the photo was taken from the book, posted on twitter, and so was the answer.
It's not fabricated, it's not a meme.

>>96415620
Yes, yes. If it was a picture posted online then it must be real.

>>96415628
it's not real because it's online
it's real and it's online
it's not difficult

>>96415514
>it's actually in the book
it is not
The launch box insert has a bunch of scrapped ideas, with Fyreslayers originally being called Red Slayers and KO Steamhead Duardin. Morathi was probably part of a Chaos army originally, the symbol is of Morathi's headpiece. Malerion doesn't have a horned head piece in AoS.

>mom what does this symbol mean?
>timmy that's the androgyne symbol, it's for troons and intersex people you should google those
it's weird GW didn't change it

>>96415632
Have you ever actually seen the book in person, or do you trust shit you saw on 4chan only?

>>96415641
>it is not
yes, it is, the artwork is in the rulebook, the excerpt is in the glossary for realmslayer and the he symbol is not morathi's, it's malekith's, even his aos design still has the horns cooling around each other in that pattern, in addition to other forward facing horns.

don't talk about shit you don't know about

>>96415669
It didn't come from 4chan, it hasn't been discussed on 4chan only.

>>96415694
Just because it was reposted to other places doesn't mean it didn't come from 4chan. That's not how this works

>>96415700
It didn't come from 4chan in the first place, I already told you.

>>96415687
>excerpt is in the glossary for realmslayer
not in my copy you lying cunt, post yours

>>96415716
>not in my copy
what version do you have?

>>96413708
>>96413842
I can get behind mycenaean elves

>>96415708
I already told you it did. Word against word.

>>96415727
Yeah, it's in the script version

>>96415753
https://files dot fm/u/8sj5rfachh

>>96415753
probably is a mistake, though given the context

>>96415762
I doubt anyone could mistakenly decide that malerion is a chaos god out of the blue.
The mistake must be in quoting an outdated early fluff bible for aos.

>>96415770
I think they were told he's not a god of order, or destruction or death and took a leap.
Black Library has little oversight, hence shit like Kragnos.

Regardless of what plans they might or might not have had for Malerion 10 years ago, it has been TEN YEARS. It's weird he has so little lore, let alone models, considering how powerful and influential of a figure he is.

>>96415777

Saving Malerion/Tyrion for Grand Alliance Aelvenkind breakaway from Order

>>96414241
A lot of circumstantial evidence, some of the strongest is this pic
>>96414250
Archaon not having a Slaanesh head, and the entire ynnari plot line in 40k (since abandoned).
The Archaon thing is killer. The designers are in no way really constrained by some faggot 'metaplot'; GW focuses on cool models FIRST and writes to explain them within the setting. Something as strange as Archaon's horse just missing a head of a chaos god would only happen if the designer was straight up told to NOT include a Slaanesh head.
But won't ever know until the NDAs run their course

>>96415777
Realmslayer was 2018, but yes we all remember the countless retcons. Lumineth used be angelic beings of light instead of regular ass high elves

>>96415793
Archaon's mount has a slaanesh head on it's cock

Don't you fags get tired of repeaitng shit that was proven worng years ago?
Go watch that painter guy's interview

>>96415803
umm actually dark harvest will be proven canon in the new Sylvaneth release ;___;

>>96415490
He is waiting until the review copies are sent out so he can cover his source

>>96415810
the review copies are out, painters have the models already. Rob is a lying faggot, he leaks shit early as soon as they hit whatsapp and facebook groups
he hasn't seen shit

>>96415777
They're probably saving it for when things go wrong, just like they did with Robot Gillermo, the guy showed up and saved Warhammer 40k.

>>96415776
but he's a god of order

>>96415803
What the hell are you talking about, context please?

>>96415795
>Lumineth used be angelic beings of light
still are, unless you've got some brainworm telling you angelic can possibly mean one thing only

>>96415795
That the Lumineth were angelic? It's obvious you're a big fan of those pointy ears.

okay thats a new feature i've never seen in an army builder before

https://www.listbot.co.uk/listbot/

listbot actually has a check box that will display winrate % for the army and the units in it, so you can see whats doing well without having to skim through tournament data or lists.

>>96415832
No, they were incompressible beings of pure light and angelic beings. LRL are just WHF recycling and abandoning the concept, which only exists in fluff at a stretch
Lumineth were retconned just like Malerion may have been

>>96415870
and just like Wanderers and Kurnothi. GW didn't care about continuity prior to the point of sale of definitive product ranges

>>96415863
Why would you care even the slightest bit about your list's win rates, much less win rates for individual units, which is a beyond fucking useless statistic? No unit exists in a vacuum, and a unit with an awful winrate might be excellent in the correct list, and a unit that wins a lot might be dependent on other specific meta choices. It also doesn't seem to account for the unit being reinforced or not, which can drastically change the purpose of a unit in the list. And it doesn't seem to be actual list win rates, but army win rates, which makes it even more useless, because some armies can be wildly different (like a regular khorne army and a gorechosen khorne army are going to be completely different lists, but there they fall under the same winrate).

when's the nova reveal show?

>>96415893
next year

>>96415895
bloody bastard

>>96415880
ok

>going through closet to find stuff to work on
>stumble across the Horns of Hashut box that I bought years ago in anticipation for chorfs
>never painted them because I wanted to make sure my chosen colorscheme would work when the army proper drops (which I thought at the time would be within a year or so)
>now it turns out they're basically a novelty decorative kit that has no use even as a proxy
Whoops!

>>96415982
>that has no use even as a proxy
You can count them as another hobgrot unit with little issues.

>>96415982
bro...y-your warcry game....

>>96416005
>You can count them as another hobgrot unit with little issues.
They're a Warcry unit so they have three different base sizes
Also I'm suspecting that hobgrot vandalz will probably be MSU 20

>>96415982
just use them as a squad of spearmen or hobgrots

>>96416038
>>96415982
or use a horn of hashut each as a unit leader for other units

>>96416018
It just got a huge update tho

>>96416026
>Also I'm suspecting that hobgrot vandalz will probably be MSU 20

i wouldnt be so sure of that

>>96416048
yeah but horns are kinda dogshit in that game. At least when compared to compendium teams.

>>96415880
Nta but if they had something that recommended for new players to pick up things, it would help prevent them from buying shit like glaivewraith stalkers, or gitz spiders, or the revenant draconith. It's not any level of sweatiness to prevent people from buying shit that has had less than average rules for the longest amount of time and usually has a decent chance of being discontinued.

>>96415816
nta but why is it difficult to believe he's seen the tome and he's not a fan of it? I've seen it and it's just okay in terms of mechanic creep. I do like that bookkeeping is starting to come back into the game in some amount, the daemon points are kind of a combination of aetherquartz (tokens assigned per unit) and the DoK mechanic (the effects get stronger the more you put on them). The desolation token you put on a terrain you control, and you get the sum of them in daemon point tokens at the start of the turn. So you have a pool of daemon points that grows through the game, and at the start of the turn you get to redistribute them to different units and they get different effects based on warscroll (gunners gain a rend per point, spearmen ward saves go up etc).

>>96416044
Probably the best idea.
>>96416051
I don't know. They give me Clanrat vibes.

>>96416026
>They're a Warcry unit so they have three different base sizes
nobody cares about that crap, you're not trying to game the system

>>96416056
I can understand arguing against the smaller gitz spiders (the big ones are fine) and glaivewraiths (which gw aren't even selling them any more anyway) but the draconith revenant? That model is extremely recent, has an alt build into a powerful special character and is on its own just a fucking amazing model worth owning because of how cool it is.

>>96416026
>>96416059
If the UW warband gets rules in the book, the Horns would be literally perfect proxies for it.
>Leader
>Two armoured melee dudes
>Flamehurler
>Unarmored idiot

>>96416059
seconding

i have never seen anyone in aos care about base sizes ever. maybe if it was some crazy shit like trying to pass off 50mm+ as a hobgrot or fit a daemon prince on a 25 you might have a problem, but if you arent obviously trying to cheat, its a complete non issue.

the aos community overall is FAR less autistic about base sizes than 40k or ToW/whfb, so i really wouldnt sweat about having the exact specific base size to the millimeter

>>96416081
I think that warband should be bigger because having only one cannon fodder wouldn't be of much use.

>>96416107
I'm annoyed that the UW leaker presented it as a "multi-racial" warband (INSERT RACE JOKE HERE) when it turned out to just be one hobgrot stuck in with some chorfs. I was kind of expecting something weirder like one chorf, a human, an orruk, and two hobgrots.

>>96416116
I was half expecting like a baby bale tauros or something, but I guess the hobgrot is the designated underworlds pet for this warband lol

>>96416044
That's a cool idea.
Have the banner, musician, and leader be a Horn of HASHUT, ruling over their little slave band

Which Warband has the most unique models?

>>96416192
In which game?

>>96416196
in underworlds

>>96416227
Zarbag's Gitz has the most models at 9 but I don't know if you'd consider them all unique

Is this an ok list for slaves to darkness in a 1000pts game?
1x Chaos Lord on daemonic mount (general)
1x Chaos sorceror lord
10x Chaos warriors
5x Chaos chosen
5x Chaos knights

>>96414916
even if you weren't completely wrong you would still be a faggot and thus are to be ridiculed or ignored

>>96416241
Yes, it's good. I've played something fairly similar, just swapping the chosen out for some darkoath. The main thing you need to make sure you do is get a charge off with the knights, it can very easily be backbreaking for your opponent at 1k if you deliver the lord and knights into an important target, they hit very, very hard together. Give the lord the fight twice trait and make him your apotheosis target and it's very possible he'll get a full heal (or daemon prince transformation, but it barely makes him any better) in a single turn of ramming into an enemy objective with his knights. The warriors and chosen basically do the same thing, but don't be afraid to sacrifice the warriors to hold something dangerous in place for your knights to get into position, they'll survive a round of combat with most things, especially if warded up by the sorcerer. Your lose cases are your generally very slow army getting outmanouvered and kept from fighting on objectives (this army is very fighy, but very slow and you have basically no movement tricks, to the point that you'll probably want to consider giving at least one unit mark of tzeentch at some point) so you'll want to focus on getting to objectives with your slower units and trying to keep the knights from getting bogged down, they do way, way less damage off the charge.

>>96416059
Really hate that the new Hobgrots don't expand the existing range but stand out as something different

>>96416051
Really wish they were 20 like... Every other box of models which are sold as MSU

>>96416192
>gloomspite warband with the squig fling
>malformed troll warband
>kruleboy warband with the mancatcher

>skryre eshin warband
>bkightkings nurgle warband
>tzeentchian band with the gaunt summoner and the wyrd things

>vampires warband
>original skeleton warband
>anvil and sword ghost warband

>human lightning zealots warband
>centaurs kurnothi warband
>idoneth crab and fish warband

>>96416362
did anyone ever paint that khorne warband not ugly?

>>96416431
Yeah I've seen some.

>>96416192
I think the tzeentch one with all the fucked up mutated guys was really good.
>>96416362
>squig fling
So kino it should've been turned into a full unit for sigmar proper

So I will be running converted chaos warriors as blightkings, so my question is for converting bits would it be better to get a chaos spawn box or just use blightkings for bits?

>>96416464
Definitely Blightkings. You’re gonna get a ton more bits.

>>96416476
Aight. Thank you!

>>96416464
Chaos spawn kit has a pretty small number of nurgle-themed bits (a fly head and iirc 4 insectoid limbs) so unless you really want some generic tentacles and claws on your chaos warriors I wouldn't go for it

>>96416487
I would recommend basing your custom kings on a bit of cork because Blightkings are some big boys and you’ll see the size disparity when you get your bit-harvesting kit. Also 40mm bases compared to the warriors 32mm.

>>96416305
Thanks for the advice bro. Also, what about the ogroids? I made this list with what i have been collecting (mainly what i think looks the coolest), so after the armored dudes i have been thinking about getting a unit of theridons and a myrmidon.
About the marauders, while i dont like the current marauders models (i dislike hordes in general), i could just use bloodreavers to count as them, since they are basically khornate marauders right?

Any luck with battletome scans recently?

>>96416192
black powder, ephilims & mollog are the standouts to me for the most unique concepts & models.

I've come to appreciate more of the warbands as I see them in person. The khorne one I 00% believe had a censored paint job.

Only one I don't really care for is the frankenstein one and the new dok one. The coomer meme ruined any small chance of me picking up the band.

>>96413715
Isn't Soulbound a modified ruleset of 40k Wrath & Glory?

>>96416354
having hobgrots be msu 20 would really change the army and give them something they desperately need, but im also afraid thats exactly why we'll never get them.

>>96416558
The worst thing about the new Khorne warband to me is that I actually really love the bulldog

>>96416535
Ogroids are good, they basically play the same role as chosen in the army in that they're a very hard-hitting brick (especially when using their once per game). You can do a cool thing with them using the scourge of ghyran thingy that gives all the non-heavy armor units a 6+ ward with 12 to the myrmidon and then slapping Mark of Nurgle on the ogroids for an absolute brick of a unit, a 6-man is 30 wounds on a 4+/5++ that hit like (inaccurate) trucks.
I doubt most people would even care to tell the difference between bloodreavers and darkoath, as long as you use the correct bases. But darkoath aren't necessary to use for StD unless you like them. Having some chaff can be nice but the heavy plate units are so tough on their own that they can often just absorb a brutal hit anyway.

>>96416192
I personally really wound up enjoying the concept of the Wintermaw zappy zealots. The concept of them being a cult that thinks getting struck by lightning is a sign of Sigmar so they just go out with weather veins and chains into storms hoping to get electrocuted.

Plus the mechanic they had where they could send attacks through themselves in a daisy chain was fucking cool as fuck. (I wish they did a bit more damage but that's Underworlds for ya)

>>96409374
I miss her so much

>>96416663
But do you own her joytoy?

>>96416672
waiting for prime 1 studio 1/3 scale

>>96416642
Come to think of it is CoS the only faction (aside from sons) that doesn't have a warband representing their normal, standard units. They got two more out there warbands, but none that are like, "4 freeguild and an arch knight" or something like that.

Who would be considered the Custodes of AOS, gameplay-wise? Ogors?

>>96416872
Nurgle

>>96416872
Ogres are deceptively squishy. I mean they're not made out of paper either but not as tough as you'd think. Nurgle, or more elite stormcast and std lists could also work. Ironjawz too maybe?

>>96416872
definitely not ogres, they're made of glass.

maybe blightking heavy nurgle like >>96416876
suggests

but probably closer would be like chosen+varanguard StD, or stormcast. maybe ironjawz.

>>96416938
>Ogres are deceptively squishy
Maybe they should put on a shirt for once

>>96416991
ogres rules dont match their lore. their skin is supposed to be like rhinocerous hide, its so thick that some ogres sheath their swords in their flesh. if you dont want to represent it with armor save then they should all have at least a blightking level feel no pain ward, they can literally survive the everwinter without clothes on

ogres being at all fragile is one of the biggest lore failings in the setting. the lore even describes ogres taking a cannon ball directly to the gut and shrugging it off

>>96417037
I think they’d fit the niche of having a ton of health compared to their lower saves.

>>96416872
std with the way they're priced now.

>>96417056
they do have a ton of health, they don't need brainlet saves too when they do retard damage and are already in a decent spot of comp and model count.

Why does everyone here like FEC and GSG so much?

>>96417037
What the fuck is up with the sword on the left one?
>>96417177
Fec just has one of the coolest concepts for an army in the game. One of the rare things they got right immediately, right from the start of 1st edition. Gitz are just full of soul, watch the bad loon rising trailer if you haven't.

>>96417177
The badmoon spoke to me once

>>96417177
>Why does everyone here like FEC
their theme of being disgusting troons has a wide ranging incel appeal.

>>96417177
fec have a wonderful gimmick that turns the underwhelming concept and design of the models taken at a face value on their heads in a greatly imaginative and ever amusing way.

night goblins on the other hand have pretty much perfect base designs for goblins and as goblins they're normally evergreen and entertaining.

the thing they have in common is that they're allowed to be fuckups, they're allowed to be losers, they're allowed to not be perfectly logical or sound, and that means that whatever they end up doing rarely taints or devalues them, while often adding little by little to their cumulative charm.

>>96417394
>perfect base designs for goblins
perfect is a stretch, they're far too flanderized into their unserious cartoony comedy gimmick.

>>96417056
If you have 4 grots at 8 points a model with 5+ saves, and 1 ogre with 4 health at 40 pts a model with a 5+ save, the ogre is in fact squishing than the grots.

Health on its own isn't much of a Stat like it is in 40k because aos has spillover damage, so if something doesn't have more health for fewer points or better saves with that higher health, then it's no more durable than chaff, with the exception of vs hordebuster effects and spells, which are very rare

Raw health in and of itself is not a defensive stat

>>96417442
Squishier*

>>96417417
>unserious cartoony comedy
exactly, the perfect goblins

every other concept for goblins is either boring, cheap shock value, or shortstacks.

>>96417177
I liked FEC before it was cool

>>96417472
If you liked ghouls before they were refluffed as having delusions of nobility, then chances are you liked ghouls because you were a waacfagging cunt running ghouls instead of zombies or skeletons back in whfb.

>>96417472
Pretty much everyone liked fec. It's the one thing even the groggiest of whfb grogs at my lgs liked when I explained some aos factions.
Now actually owning a fec army prior to their update is another matter entirely. It's why original ghoulanon will always be THE ghoulanon.

I love skeletons and necromancers but Ossiarch Bonereapers just does not do it for me for some reason. I even like their lore and some of their mechanics and think it's really cool but the aesthetic turns me off completely.

>>96417442
expanding on this, the reason models with higher health are generally viewed as tougher in other systems like 40k or ToW is because they usually also come paired with higher toughness, and damage doesnt spill over so in 40k for example it can end up wasting some of the damage of multi damage weapons if they are a bad match against the specific health values of the target unit (damage 2 weapons into 3 health models for example)

in age of sigmar those levers of toughness and health to damage thresholds dont exist, so if you want a model to be tougher, it needs to be either saves, wards, hit/wound penalties, "cannot wound on better than X" type effects and so on

but as far as durability goes, 400points worth of steelhelms and 400pts worth of megagargants are pretty much the same, probably even a little tougher on the steelhelms. the only thing the larger model has over the mass of smaller ones is that it doesnt lose damage with as much granularity as it loses health compared to a horde of guys, but that difference is pretty negligible when you're talking about 1 health vs 4 health models, it only really gets meaningful at the monster scale where something can be 10-14 health down without having lost much damage

>>96417521
i've seen guys replace the heads with regular skulls and it does a lot to give them a more traditional skeleton feel

>>96417464
you sound like all you watch is anime.

>>96417524
A unit of chaos warriors with half its models gone is functionally neutered. 6 bulls can take 11 damage and still have 17 damage 2 attacks. It is a big deal.

>>96411134
I would actually have released them for sale?

>>96417549
why not simply proxy the entire ossiarch roster with normal skeletons instead of touching even just one ossiarch kit?

>>96417521
SBGL’s has the traditional skeletons. Maybe kitbash the heads of Vampire Lord models into skulls if you want to make a more viable list.

ran out of primer. rip.

>>96417521
Try getting a good look at the models, I honestly didn't care for them much at first glance but turned around when I saw some of em in person.

>>96417521
they aren't really skeletons desu, they're golems sculpted from bone

Is there any work around to paying the bone tithe? Like, could you just cut someones arms and legs off, then regenerate it with some magic?

>>96417915
I mean, they don't have to be your bones. Any bones work.

>>96417915
For the most part, they just want the quota to be met. Some of the more psycho legions might take offense and slaughter you for it though.

>>96417915
How is regrowing an arm different from growing a whole new human over 9 months?
Ossiarchs don't want you specifically dead. Your debt is in calcium

>>96418073
Nope, they use souls and bones. They very much want you dead

>>96418266
Bone tithe isn't paid in souls.

the bone tithe is such a funny concept

>>96418268
The souls are attached to the corpse or summoned through it

>>96417521
Headswap with helmets tbhon

>>96418296
Nighthaunt rather clearly shows us the soul isn't bound to the body

>>96418289
I'm hoping once the book comes out we get some actual fucking mechanics for OBR instead of Auras and buffs/debuffs.

>>96418315
That looks sick as fuck for a simple kitbash.

>>96418315
>mix Persian elements with Egyptians

>>96413957
>>96415557
Thanks guys, Im glad that shield turned out well.

>>96418356
Yeah, the Persians were known for their exoskeleton skeleton warriors with scarab chitin inspired armour

>>96418345
Wightkings clearly shows the opposite
NH are severed from their bodies

>>96416362
lmao 8 SCE

>>96418356
Could you imagine?

>>96418351
>I'm hoping once the book comes out we get some actual fucking mechanics for OBR instead of Auras and buffs/debuffs.
you'll get your entire allegiance stripped and replaced with -1 control score per round.

>>96417472
Anon, it's not cool now. FEC is for metachasers knowing it will never be out of the top for long and fags who think bland ghouls are cool.

>>96418451
Sounds like someone is jealous they aren’t a noble knight of the realm

(I don’t play FEC but if I ever do a death army it’ll be either them or SBGL)

>>96418451
Ey fuck you, ghouls are cool. GW singlehandedly made an entire line of average models palatable with decent writing and the new shit designed with that writing in mind is great.

You probably play (nothing realistically) some net list on whatever is at top then sell the army once you've lost your 3rd tourney for the year.

>>96418446
Maybe it'll come out later and I'll have a chance of it being good (and maybe a 2nd wave of releases)

>>96418402
Wight kings are special exceptions. That's why they're different from the 100000 sjeketons around them

>>96418419
2 of thise were rules added to etb kits with Nighthaunt getting the same

>>96418581
Typical FEC player only thinks about tournaments. They really are the metachaser faction for tourneyfags who think they are good at the game.

>>96416362
Cool image, I grouped them together in factions out of interest. Some things of note:
-Stormies at the top with 8 (!). why the fuck do they have two nearly identical sacrosanct bands.
-gitz and sbgl in second place if you count the two weird zombie warbands with 5. If you count all orcs together and remember that hedkrakka exists they also get to 5. then a bunch of 4's (DoK, skaven, khorne, NH)
-khorne definitely gw's favourite of the big four when it comes to UW.
-fyreslayers, kharadron, chorfs (duh) , OBR and surprisingly lumineth at only 1 warband. rough out there for the dwarfs. Beasts used to be here too
-Sons of Behemat the only ones missing afaik

>>96418668
ur gay

>>96418706
I want to paizuri the female Tzeentch acolyte

>>96418706
khainites getting 4 warbands is criminal

>>96418706
Kind of funny how despite being the newest warband, the Helsmiths of Hashut one went back to the original style of "Alternate sculpt of foot hero + more dynamic sculpts of a handful of infantry models" warbands.

>>96418706
>2/3 warbands for the tree army are not trees
I want a public apology from James.

>>96416362
underworld is such a great idea, i wish it was more popular
most of these factions seem a little much to get as a whole army, even if spearhead. i mean having a case of dozens of naked dwarves just sounds embarrassing. but a nice vertical slice of each faction is pretty cool to have

>>96418629
zombies retard

>>96418859
sylvaneth should get the 2 kurnothi bands bundled together as a mainline unit for sylvaneth and spare the army from multipart kit for kurnothi

>>96418807
>khainites getting 4 warbands is criminal

seethe

>>96414047
Every faction should have a command squad like this available to them.

>>96418629
Maybe the basic skeletons, but all the wights, including Barrow/Grave Guard and knights, have at least part of their personality intact.

>>96415781
Tyrion's elves will be a sub faction of DoK and Malekith's will be a subafaction of LRL

>>96418914
Make a 5 man command squad for you favorite factions anon. I'd be curious to see your ideas

>>96418851
Undoubtedly because as the newest faction HoH had only one aesthetic to draw from.
Be curious to see where they'd go for a second warband if they're popular enough.

>>96418937
That's stupid but I can see it. Does Morathi remember anything from the old world? Would she have like a spite boner for Tyrion? (both because he's fucked her over and looks like her dead husband)

>>96415982
Use them in Warcry

>>96418948
Actually side note, does anyone remember anything from the world well, Gotrek is the only example and that's more because he just kinda got zorped over whole after fighting daemons for awhile. I know Nagash is brain fucked and even if he did he'd have to sort through his brain, Sigmar I got no clue, Teclis I got no clue.

>>96418937
>Malekith
His name is Malerion. Don't deadname him.

>>96418851
Those are my favourite. I guess it makes sense, them being brand new and all you can't go wild with the out there ideas yet. Gotta establish the baseline first.
>>96418945
nta, CoS are one of the few factions where that could actually work imo, most others wouldn't be that unique I think. OBR could pull it off.

Teclis better watch his back

>>96418946
Personally I'd like to see either HoH-aligned orruks (with nods to 4th edition black orcs) or something expanding on that metal ritual mask look as seen on certain models

>>96418948
Yeah she does, when she ascended, Aenerion's soul she remembered

>>96418345
>>96418402
The truth is that Warhammer has never truly unequivocally formalised how souls work, even in the one book written as Manfred's own understanding of undeath.

As far as we know, souls leave the body on death unless proper funerary rites are done, and when the soul leaves the body it may remain stuck on the physical plane, make its way into an underworld, or be swept up by the currents of the realm of chaos and be consumed, either by gradually losing its identity until it dilutes back into the baseline nothingness of the realm of souls, or by getting preyed upon by a demonic entity, or by conjoining with other souls like it in a god; rarely, if ever, it may get a chance to reincarnate.
BUT all of this assumes that the soul is an indivisible unit, but we've seen souls split, or get split into its different constituents, which the nehekarans identified and manfred somewhat agreed with.
these components being:
the soul fire
the moral compass
the consciousness
the subconscious
the true name
the literal body
the literal shadow

with this in mind it is perfectly possible for a soul to be split in half by desecrating or traumatic magic and create a situation where someone's emotional "echo" might wander the world or an underworld or the realm of chaos as a ghost at the same time as that same being's conscious spirit half
and that is before we invoke the bullshit that is time flowing in absurd ways in the realms of the dead and the gods, which would even allow someone to commune with their own future dead self

>>96419046
wait is Aenarion around in AOS?

>>96418945
Literally one exists for both of my factions.
Gobbapalooza and Morgwaeth's Blade Coven.
Just add a banner to each and they're perfect.

>>96418979
Malekith

>>96419055
No, but she encountered his soul when ascending to godhood

>>96419055
Morathi ate his soul

>>96419012
why would you make arkhan gay like that?

>>96418969
Yes. Nagash and Teclis bant during their battle in BR Teclis. I swear there’s another dialogue between them where Nagash calls him “TECLIS OF ULTHUAN”, but I can’t remember where it’s published.

>>96419101
I wish Nagash would stop getting bodied, even if it's like "Oh he got worn out after fighting 6 armys and then they mugged him in an alleyway" would be nice if he got a win. He's still cool as fuck.

>>96416859
For War Cry? That's what the wildercorps are. They're just a normal unit.

For Underworlds yeah it's all Order of Azyr.

>>96419055
we saw him together with the other phoenix kings as dead souls deep in slaanesh's gullet when morathi descended down there to eat them.
upon encountering him morathi faltered and aenarion bitch slapped her so hard her ascension to godhood was somewhat faulty and she's now split into two beings, morathi-morathi and snake-morathi.

aenarion was still devoured despite that act of defiance/spite.

>>96419101
Okay, it’s just earlier in the same book.

>>96419114
Personally I think it's great.

>>96419101
>My brother fights in his own way, against a foe far deadlier than you
>THERE IS NO SUCH BEING
lel I love nagash' autism. what the fuck is teclis alluding to here btw, malerion? chaos?
>>96419114
didn't leakers say that nagash/death would play "the good guy" in this edition or something weird like that?

>>96419055
His soul was in Slaanesh's gut. When Morathi sought the souls there to fuel her ascension she encountered his and sought to devour it, but he sliced her in half so hard she became two entities.
His soul is probably free which means death, that he can empower another being as his champion, or that he can resurrect like every other being from WHF now

>>96419162
Confirmed as Malerion later on in the 3e core book iirc.

>>96419162
>malerion?
ye

or gw's release schedule

>>96419162
I havent seen anything but it'd be nice to see nagash slap the GHR down a peg

>>96419171
>or gw's release schedule
lmfao

>>96418706
Why did you split both the zombie warbands from the rest of the soulblight?

>>96419161
I mean he can't really die, so he's allowed to lose. Unlike Archaon who can never lose or else he gets his powers revoked or Teclic/Siggy who just fucking die. I just feel bad for the poor guy, he takes all this time to work out these plans and then gets fucked last second!

>>96419162
>Would be a good guy
But he was always the good guy?

>>96418706
>I grouped them together in faction
the original image too grouped them together, but it was made before the announcement of the last 4 bands, so I added them best I could instead of remaking the whole thing

/aosg/'s official top 5 AoS Characters

1. Korghos Khul
2. Orpheon Katakros
3. Neave Blacktalon
4. Hanniver Toll
5. /my dude/

last place: Morathi

>>96419253
After having fought Morathi more than once I hate her more than anything else, absolute cunt when you don't have ranged chip damage.

>>96418807
>SCE have 8
>GSG have 5
>BoK have 4
>OWC have 4 (5?)
>SBGL have 4 (5?)
>Skaven have 4
>NH have 4