Thread 96424748

>bro we're playing Grimdark Supermarket Simulator d'you wanna hop in? if not bro it's cool I can see those guys over there playing a four-dimensional Mordheim28 hack that looks sick
>we better wrap up quickish though because there's a speed kitbashing with your own faeces competition this afternoon and Tyler the judge is taking shrooms for it! You get extra points for how many oil washes you can cover your stuff in too
>we're heading out for sandos afterwards too bro they do a sick Reuben

Inq28 was kind of cool but I kind of despise the "take a model and snip the head off so you can put a cube or a shield with a face there" scene.

>>96424748 (OP)
>Is that... people having fun? This cannot be abided! Bring my miniature-and-human dissolving gun!!

>>96424748 (OP)
safe sleazy typed bpost

>>96424760
I know I know.

I think a lot of the Grimdark 28 stuff is just a copout from people too tired from their normal lives and the modern world though.

It's a bloated ulcer that's squashing out the "indie scene" as people can just shit out rules pamphlets and slapdash miniatures.

They are infinitely more soulful than the average 40ktard

>>96424748 (OP)
These dudes look pretty chill. Why am I supposed to hate them?

>>96424948
if you remove half the us related references this is half my friends. The ones into Warhammer, Yi-gi-oh and mtg that is.

>>96424748 (OP)
>niggas actually playing games and hobbying instead of shitposting on a message board all day

The horror

>>96424748 (OP)
People engaging with and enjoying the hobby? That cannot stand, especially on /tg/ of all places! The tabletop gaming hobby has no place here!

It's just like. That is not painted. Put some effort in instead of hiding in your scene of fellow chancers.

>>96424748 (OP)
>Grimdark Supermarket Simulator
I'm sure you had something you hate in mind when writing this, it was the first item after all, but I've been thinking about october horror stuff and this sounds like a fun one shot.

>>96425088
Most /tg/ stuff is inherently social so we don't really care about how people socialize, if anything someone looking clean gives them extra points. But for most of 4chan people who look comfortable in social spaces are cringe.

>>96424748 (OP)
I don't think you've quite identified why you dislike these sorts of people, but I'll do it for you: They're hipsters. They enjoy novelty and niche appeal more than they enjoy the hobby itself. They aren't fans of games as much as they are fans of quirky, new bullshit. Novelty wears off fast, so they're constantly lurching between new trends and new gimmicks, especially if they have some vague air of pseudo-punk outside art. Things that look bad on purpose and have that "you wouldn't get it" or "get filtered" vibe, even though there's nothing deeper there once you peel away the obnoxious gimmickry and poseur auteur nonsense.

If they liked games, they'd just play games and wouldn't need excuses to constantly search out some new obtuse reason to kitbash old thrift store antiques with duplo blocks and a latvian vore metal aesthetic that you probably haven't heard of since you aren't in "the scene"

>>96424948
Another decade, another slew of normoids seething over hipster chads

>>96427068
NOOOO
You have to be stuck with the things you picked at age 10! You're not allowed to try new things!

>>96424748 (OP)
Yellow cube head is apocryphanow shit. He is a whiney tard and not representative of the indie scene.

>>96427068
these guys are typically massive abusers who hide their evil behind the guise of being a "male feminist"
they paint their nails to signal that they're a low-threat male and not "toxically masculine" yet any girl who has dated one of these guys will tell you they are like a million times worse

>>96427497
>*sniff* why do the girls keep going for the assholes that treat them like shit and not a nice guy like me :'(

>>96424948
>>96426897
>>96427497
So much cope in this thread by obvious nogames

>>96426897
So, just like Miscast on YouTube?

>>96427497
>three random dudes
>a niche flavor of the month game that lasted a bit longer
>this guys are male feminist rapist who criticize me but are way worse than me
could you project a bit less, I can't see the screen

>>96427716
I'd say so. The guy likes building stuff. He likes weird games and unusual art and character designs. He does seem to play wargames, but more than anything else, he likes the novelty of weird, unique, artsy bullshit.

>>96427068
If disliking the mullet+pedo stache combo is wrong I don't want to be right. It's ugly

>>96424748 (OP)
If anyone actually used the term "Mordheim28" in my presence I would - literally not figuratively - kill them. And not just because the whole "28" scene was coopted and ruined by trannoids.

>>96424748 (OP)
>we're heading out for sandos afterwards
I've started hearing this "sando" thing for the first time a while ago and since then it's more and more frequent. When did this happen?

>>96428040
Whoa, watch out everybody, we got a 1670mm badass loose in the thread

>>96424948
My brother in Christ. There are Gen Zs who are almost 30.

>>96424834
You could have started with that.

>>96428040
Yup, we must do this until all wargamers accept 15mm as the superior scale

>>96428040
>He doesn't know about gorkamorka54
Gay.

>>96427536
i have a girlfriend
>>96427848
i was replying to the wojak meme not the OP post, get your eyes examined

>>96428143
>1670mm
>How oddly specific, wonder how it translates into imperi-

>>96429666
What's his name?

>>96426693
IDK man, I'd call picrel tabletop ready.
It's not painted WELL, but you don't have to paint every mini to win a golden demon. Just slop enough paint on there to get the idea of the features, and the colours.
Base, wash, highlight. Colour, depth, correction.

>>96429823
Epic man syndrome.

>>96426897
You’re talking about the people who have been playing Mordheim for almost 30 years? In person, with friends? The ones still playing 40k 3e and WHFB? Those are the people lurching from trend to trend?

>>96428106
I dunno like the 1970s?

>>96431210
What part of that post says anything about playing one game?

>>96424748 (OP)
>I heard you guys were having sex
>what about the Manifesto? Or is that bullshit too?

Watching half the hobby become iDubbzed to annoy the other half has been so worth it

>>96424748 (OP)
>hipter28s playing games instead of just posting their "epic" kitbashes (they covered a victrix napoleonic figure in 5 different brands of mud effects again) on social media

nope. Too unrealistic. Nobody does this.

>>96424748 (OP)
hey, I’m really sorry if you’re still upset over being disqualified from the speed kitbashing with your own faces competition, but your catachan colonel was clearly not made in your likeness and also everyone was really uncomfortable with the way you kept showing them screenshots from 1d4chan and saying “look at this one, this one is so funny” over and over while they were trying to play games.

You also didn’t ruin your model with oil washes, a very clearly defined prerequisite I outlined in the judge’s curriculum.

If you come back next year and are less annoying in person I promise not to be weird or rude to you. I hope Inq28 was still a good time.

There's a new book of the 28 mag collected which looks pretty cool but is like £60 or $100 shipped

That's not very indie

>>96424748 (OP)
Take the historical pill. I was searching for a new game after MTG went to shit a few years ago and discovered ADLG

>Clean, focused gaming environment without merchandise clutter everywhere
>Tournaments held in actual museums
>Instead of grabbing McDonald's between rounds, I'm drinking wine and networking with older players (literally got my current job through an interview with someone from my playgroup)
>Conversations dive into autistic levels of historical detail, you actually learn something new every session
>"My daughter would be perfect for you, anon"

>>96439570
Based

>>96424834
Why is this real
Is it satire?
Also, why is the Nepolean Dynamite guy hanging around the UK now?

>>96424748 (OP)
>they do a sick Reuben
Why is pastrami catching strays?

>>96438036
I'm pretty sure you can read the articles for free online on their website.
The collected edition is really just for people who want a nice hardback coffee table book

>>96424948
>posting ten year old memes

>>96424748 (OP)
i'd pick these guys over neckbeards who haven't showered or brushed their teeth in weeks and trap you into a conversation about their super epic totally original OC for 15 minutes while you're waiting for the game to start.

>>96427862
Miscast is interesting. The daily Vlogs he's been doing are an interesting watch if nothing else to see his daily progression of a rather scattershot amount of projects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TtwLYYn0PQ

>>96426693
This looks like total shit, is that all these inq28 guys do? Headswap kitbashs and bad paint jobs?

t. Avoids all game scenes and just plays bloodbowl with mates

>>96428106
Apparently it's a Japanese term for sandwich which retards have started using

>>96440470
I don't think he's bad or malicious or whatever, but he's definitely a fan or art and novelty more than games themselves. And that's fine and that's what he does.

>>96440507
it gained traction as places that sold Japanese sandwiches started popping up in trendy middle-class neighbourhoods

>>96424748 (OP)
Are these meant to be notable miniature gamers?

>>96440198
Meme culture on here have been stagnant for ten years anon. Most people here are still stuck in 2015.

>>96440870
It was a better time

>>96440870
Can you think of a better time?

>>96440895
2005.

>>96440613
No, but they are a stereotype of the type of person that goes to New England Mordheim Open, which is a certain type of player that OP has issues with

>>96424748 (OP)
sounds perfectly normal, what's your problem OP?

>>96424748 (OP)
ok I guess I'll play: marry, fuck, kill

>>96428040
wtf is the "28" scene?

>>96443004
Indie Wargames, but mostly skirmish games that spun out of Inq28, which was a version of GW Inquisitor in 28mm scale, the original was in 54mm scale.
made a bunch of other games like Turnip 28 and has a fanzine called 28mag

>>96424748 (OP)
worst part of this post is the reuben catching strays, why are you mad at a good sandwich

>>96424748 (OP)
At this point a meme-phrase is going to be coined on these grimdark alternative games to GW stuff.
I get that conversions can be fun, but I think the problem is how fast the hipster mentality sets in and the whole scene becomes a fart huffing fest.

>>96424760
this but unironically

>>96427950
>I do not like your hair therefore you are ontologically immoral.

>>96424748 (OP)
Maybe I'm reading too much into what could just well be a garden variety retarded contrarian faggot which isn't out of place on 4chan, maybe you're also a genuine malding goblin obsessively stalking literal whos, also not out of place on 4chan. Suspicious though that an obviously annoying contrarian getting mad at things like conversions and homebrews links back to a blog article about a small convention with an associated youtube account with only 650 subs. If I had something to shill on 4chan I'd make myself out to be a cunt and neg it.

>>96424748 (OP)
>four-dimensional Mordheim28 hack
I know you're trying to make them sound cringe, but all I can imagine is a sci-fi skirmish game where players are mercenary-scavengers who are trying to break into/recover items from a place where reality breaks the fuck down.
A vast megastructure built by unknown precursors where time is bullshit and our eyes aren't even real, ect.
And that sounds fucking amazing.

>>96454220
>I know you're trying to make them sound cringe, but all I can imagine is a sci-fi skirmish game where players are mercenary-scavengers who are trying to break into/recover items from a place where reality breaks the fuck down.
>A vast megastructure built by unknown precursors where time is bullshit and our eyes aren't even real, ect.
Some guy from /tg/ got his BLAME! homebrew published by Osprey jfyi

>>96454245
Is it any good?

>>96454245
or at least, I thought it was published by Osprey, maybe it was somebody else

>>96454265
dunno, I haven't looked into it
personally don't understand the appeal of weabshit where the synopsis sounds like something EPIC a 10yo would write

>>96454279
Blame! is alright, you mostly just read for the art by Nihei.
It's similar to why all these 28 people seem obsessed with Mordheim and Inquisitor, they just think John Blanche's art is cool

>>96424748 (OP)
>Inq28 was kind of cool but I kind of despise the "take a model and snip the head off so you can put a cube or a shield with a face there" scene.

Are these the guys who reflexively feel bad about playing historical games because the past was harsh sometimes?

>>96424748 (OP)
I guess this is attempt to mock percieved normalfags, or hipsters. But ironically this is normalfag behavior, because you think can't like stuff because you fear being associated with some group you see socially below you. Not to mention claiming you liked something before it was popular.

>>96454756
I find the whole "conform or die" mentality shared by blue haired activists and Chuds alike where they watch how you stir your tea for ideological correctness absolutely cloying and overdue some carpark violence.

>>96454632
Isn't this the group pushing Trench Crusade?
Wouldn't that be considered "historical" since it is set in an alt-universe version of the crusades and WW1?

>>96454778
I don't know. I like kitbashes, oil washes, the whole bit. But I like history and not worrying about who is in and who is out.

>>96454789
wonder if something like Pillage will get some traction from the 28 group

>>96454799
Who cares. I was playing Dark Ages games before Pillage. I will be after

>>96454279
Zone Raiders? I think that one got self published. It's not bad, lots of movement options so you're incentivized to make some absolutely wild tables.

>>96443004
Back in Ye Olden Mysts Of Tyme people online decided playing Inquisitor in 54mm scale was inconvenient and honestly a bit silly given the vast amount of 40K models out there, and started advocating for playing the game with 28mm minis, which became known under the shorthand term "Inq28". This continued for a few years as basically just another random little hobby niche for a while, spinning off the "Inquisimunda" concept(for people who wanted more wargame and less co-op wargame-rpg hybrid in their experience). Unfortunately it also spawned another little clique of incredibly homosexual berks who were hyper-focused on pretending they were John Blanche and doing things in a simpering, overbearing, performatively "I attended Art School doncha know" manner and, unfortunately, thanks to some of the "big names" in that group actually getting an "in" with JB and being featured in his WD column, their seizure of the Inq28 Facebook group's moderation, and their incestuous little mutual-like farm on Instagram that led the algo to putting them in everyone's face if they expressed interest in Inq28, they basically completely co-opted the whole concept - which remember, was just "play the Inquisitor game or a game about Inquisitors in 28mm scale" - and injected colossal amounts of intense hipsterish faggotry into it. Of course being hipsterfags they even began putting each other off eventually, and their "zine" project 28Mag got coopted by the trooney faction and devolved into "Why Space Marines Are Gay Actually: An Essay".

They then began metastasising their shit into other games and communities by pushing the
>I dumped a bottle of glue and some flock into my bitzbox, shook it around, dripped the resulting lumps in oil paint, and wrote some pretentious fluff on my instagram, now your shitty "wargame" is ART
shite everywhere, acting like they were elevating mere pleb games by deigning to wipe their arses with them and appending "28" to the resulting stinky mess.

>>96443004
>>96455035
Basically, imagine what Warhammer would be if it was made by a cabal of obnoxious Gender Studies dangerhairs who want to Challenge Heteronormative Patriarchal Depictions Of Masculinity, while promoting the idea that "playing wargames" by basically doing drama improv and occasionally rolling a single 4-up dice check is a Heckin Valid way to play, and mutually huffing their own farts because their minis are painted exclusively in shades of brown of have big subversive willies sculpted on them or are female Space Marines and this makes them Not Childish like yours.

>>96455035
>>I dumped a bottle of glue and some flock into my bitzbox, shook it around, dripped the resulting lumps in oil paint, and wrote some pretentious fluff on my instagram, now your shitty "wargame" is ART

Sounds fun though

>>96431210
No he's not talking about those people, you dense moron, have you not read the thread? The 28 crew are not /GROG/.

>>96455072
I'm sorry anon, the homosexuality is terminal. If you hurry home you may have just enough time to say goodbye to your loved ones and apologise for having been born before your entire body prolapses itself to death.

>>96455092
>conflates self expression with gay sex

Yeah. American posting hours have begun

>>96455135
>covering a perfectly good miniature in sand and oil painting it with a toothbrush
>self expression

>>96455160
>everything is about gay sex in the end
>picrel is me, I'm a 5th generation Texan!

>>96455160
The only good thing I can say about that hipster clique of mini artiste types is that those communities seem to have fully adopted 3d printing, so they are most often slapping texture effect and bit-box bullshit on a mini that can be replaced for pennies instead.

>>96455061
So Mork Borg but for GW wargames?

>>96455035
The trick is to concentrate on what you enjoy duh.

I for one love the battle-reports/Blanche minis and some of the contributors, hate the clique bullshit and weird obsession with ''current-year'' politics so I just ignore that part and keep chugging on.

Is some of it samey? Yes, but it beats the soulless corporate slop that is mainstream GW and the guys seem to be going out, meeting people and having fun which is what the whole thing is supposed to be about.

Some great articles in the inq28 mag, just ignore the womens day issue and you're fine (if that's what bothers you).

>>96455930
> so I just ignore that part and keep chugging on.
Until they infect the part you like, destroy it and make you the villain if you complain but don't worry, everyone else will ignore or chastity you since it doesn't affect them (yet)

>>96456465
nta but how would they destroy Battle Reports or Blanceistu minis
John Blanche's inspired art and paint schemes is the main thing that inspired the 28meg stuff

>>96456505
Forget it Jake, It's the Cult of Action.

>>96426770
>Supermarket is the size of a continent and still growing. City-sized automated mobile construction machines belch smoke 24 hours a day. People enter the supermarket in the morning and find the checkouts they entered through have been replaced by endless shelves by the time they try to leave.
>All stock is produced internally. As in, inside the store. Entire generations of poultry and livestock have never seen the sun, being raised wholly beneath the harsh glow of artificial lights.
>The current god-manager is known for his ruthless, cruel emphasis on efficiency, and the supermarket has long since subsumed head office into itself. There is noone left who can challenge his power, not since the deli rebellion was finally suppressed in the battle of the butchers.
>Every day, millions, if not billions live and suffer, all to bring you the best bargains at the lowest prices.

>>96455061
This doesn't sound any different from the Warhammer fanbase?

>>96456465
they already have, I just ignore it anyway and don't bother with complaining since i'm not gonna convince them anymore than they are gonna convince me.

>>96455073
The inq28 crowd literally grew out of longterm mordheim and inquisitor players who had been playing their dead games for 20 years straight. the whole modelling style comes from the stuff they were making to take to their annual event games

I wrote out a very mean monologue but felt bad and deleted. I appreciate their heart and dedication, but they are a specific brand of unbearable New Englander with camp hats and camo pants. Total herd mentality, (if you take your time and paint nice, you're a fascist) which is typical for hardcore/noise scene guys. Safe edgy.

>>96426897
>unwashed degens who are resistant to change of any kind hate the people who seek constant change
it's simply 40kino if I may say so

>>96454632
there's definitely a part of that group that thinks historicals is a chud dogwhistle