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Anonymous No.96445118 [Report] >>96445180 >>96445769 >>96445773 >>96446644 >>96453181 >>96453335 >>96453776 >>96462097 >>96467736 >>96468817 >>96469137 >>96470751 >>96470807 >>96470829 >>96471948 >>96472220 >>96472253 >>96479572 >>96484663 >>96493296 >>96493397 >>96503427 >>96503437 >>96503499
The most irrelevant faction in 40K.
Anonymous No.96445126 [Report] >>96467870 >>96477955 >>96493300
This did not need to be it's own thread. This is literally the kind of thing you make a post in the general.
Anonymous No.96445137 [Report] >>96445180 >>96445785 >>96445868 >>96453851 >>96492568 >>96505939
>so irrelevant, people dont even think about them
step aside, knife-ear.
Anonymous No.96445180 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
>>96445137
>'Darkeldared' will become the new 'squatted' in your lifetime
Anonymous No.96445769 [Report] >>96445850 >>96470946 >>96500470
>>96445118 (OP)
Not after Rogue Trader
Anonymous No.96445773 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
And that's a good thing!
Anonymous No.96445785 [Report] >>96467583 >>96470949 >>96471765 >>96502232
>>96445137
I like how they tried to hamfist votrans having a rivalry with eldar but no one cares or thinks about votrans in any manner, both in and out of setting
Anonymous No.96445850 [Report]
>>96445769
They're get along great with adeptus mechanicus
They both love body modifications
Anonymous No.96445868 [Report] >>96445875 >>96445882 >>96453151 >>96471777 >>96472171 >>96484900
>>96445137
Why the hell does GW keep insisting on making dwarfs and not giving them beards? Same thing with those stupid steampunk dwarfs, they're all clean shaven or have a small cropped beard.
Anonymous No.96445875 [Report] >>96445880 >>96445882
>>96445868
I’m pretty sure the steampunk dwarves all actually have beards. If they don’t they’re probably women.
Anonymous No.96445880 [Report] >>96445882
>>96445875
Their helmets are modeled as if they had beards, but under the helmet they have what votann have, which any real dwarf would call a pathetic stubble. Still a better direction than votann. And half of the models being beardless to represent women is also lame. I just don't know who looks at dwarfs and says "they'd look better without the beard".
Anonymous No.96445882 [Report] >>96446121
>>96445868
>>96445875
>>96445880
This guy alone beardmogs the entire rest of gw's dwarf ranges
Anonymous No.96446121 [Report] >>96446139 >>96470931
>>96445882
Seriously? Looks like some balding shortarse who overcompensates by getting involved in a beard oil MLM scam.
Anonymous No.96446139 [Report]
>>96446121
you're describing a dwarf to the v
Anonymous No.96446644 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
I would say the Tau, I love them, but they only exist cause the other much larger factions are preoccupied with killing each other.
Anonymous No.96446863 [Report] >>96447206 >>96453860
What people don’t get, is that the dark elves are the commercial bait faction. All those dark elf fantasy reps are.

But this is the new age where the force is female and the male gaze is bad. Now they are just evil elves whos theme over laps with chaos, no identity.

They are out.
Anonymous No.96447206 [Report]
>>96446863
Man I love a proper edgelord without any of the irony. Its too bad most people can't actually play one well.
Anonymous No.96453151 [Report] >>96470810 >>96503427
>>96445868
They did the same thing for AOS Chorfs, very uncanny looking
Anonymous No.96453181 [Report] >>96453204
>>96445118 (OP)
I actually liked them a LOT more with their original 3rd edition sculpts. Those has sovl. The current stuff sucks.
Anonymous No.96453204 [Report] >>96453285 >>96453294 >>96468650 >>96470833 >>96470952 >>96471013 >>96493295
>>96453181
What exactly do you prefer about them? I always thought Jes Goodwin did an excellent redesigning them in 5th
Anonymous No.96453285 [Report]
>>96453204
They were kind of the beginning of GW's trend of over-detailing models. It doesn't look good imo.
Anonymous No.96453294 [Report]
>>96453204
I like that sword design, even if the armor is a bit too detailed. Still, gotta love being spiky cunt with a cleaver that it's blade has a pointy bit just at the end of it, but behind the blade.
Anonymous No.96453335 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
Wouldn't that be the Lovecraftian Horrors that dwell in The Ghoul Stars? They never do anything.
Anonymous No.96453776 [Report] >>96453825 >>96453832 >>96502979
>>96445118 (OP)

I would hesitate to call the Dark Eldar/Drukari “irrelevant,” since that would suggest that they do not have any sort of connection to the greater lore of 40k and, thus, no place within it, other than simply selling more model kits and paints.

Rather, I would insist they instead be called “underutilized,” seeing as how there are no pieces of media (save for the Owlcat Rogue Trader game) that have actually taken the time to explore their nature outside of the utterly two dimensional (and worrying bio-essentialist) characterization of “sadomasochistic goth space elves who are pathologically evil” (granted, Owlcat’s Rogue Trader falls into this trap as well, but at least they actually TRIED to make it interesting).
Anonymous No.96453825 [Report] >>96453832 >>96468790 >>96480041 >>96484908 >>96490834 >>96502979 >>96504563
>>96453776
Have you read the Path of the Dark Eldar trilogy?
Anonymous No.96453832 [Report] >>96458897 >>96468719 >>96484911
>>96453825

>>96453776 here. Haven’t even heard of it until you mentioned it. Is it worth the read?
Anonymous No.96453851 [Report]
>>96445137
At least they have the excuse of not existing for 99% of the franchise's history.
Anonymous No.96453860 [Report]
>>96446863
That image describes 99% of modern feminist characters.
Anonymous No.96458897 [Report]
>>96453832
>The Path of the Dark Eldar trilogy is pretty widely regarded as one of the best sets of Xenos books in the whole setting.

>Yeah the Path of the Dark Eldar is a very tight and good read. All of the characters are pretty interesting despite all being Drukhari, and it really gives you a good look at the differences within the culture. Fun concepts like Ailendrach where Mandrakes live, the large amount of pocket dimensions very close to Comorragh proper, Incubi shit. I liked it a lot. The Archon was pretty cool too and I was rooting for him, but Vect is inevitable.

>Path of the Dark Eldar is fucking god tier, bar none the best xenos trilogy BL will ever put out and it's such a shame it rots in obscurity. I cannot recommend it enough.

> Have you even read Path of the Dark Eldar? Honestly they're probably the best written and most fleshed out Xenos faction in the game if you actually bother to read their trilogy. It's absolutely ridiculous how Craftworlders get absolutely shit on by GW yet Deldar get a god tier trilogy that no one read.

> Seconding Path of the Dark Eldar. It's better than any of the Craftworld books.

>I don't know what the fuck a drukhari is but the path of the dark eldar novels by Andy Chambers shit all over anything mike brooks has ever written.

>Literally the only good 40k novels I ever read were the path of the dark eldar trilogy ones.

>Path of the dark Eldar omnibus is really good. I wish more non dark Eldar collectors read it so it got more recognition.

>The Path of the Dark Eldar novels are very good and interesting, especially for a world building side of the universe you don't see a lot about.

>You should read Path of the Dark Eldar if you haven't, yet. It's fun. It pretty much single handedly turned me into a deldar fan.

>There are exactly 4 Black Library books that I believe are tolerable. The first Sons of Aenarion book and the three Path of the Dark Eldar books.
Anonymous No.96462097 [Report] >>96484930
>>96445118 (OP)
GW just needs to give Vect some justification for waging a proper war in realspace, something to tie them back together with everybody else in 40k, they definitely feel overly self contained to their own dimension as is
Anonymous No.96467583 [Report]
>>96445785
>they have a rivalry with the faction that hasn’t done anything in 10 years
Anonymous No.96467736 [Report] >>96467904
>>96445118 (OP)
I feel like it works for them, though. It plays into the pirate aspect of the Dark Eldar. They're secretive and opportunistic just like IRL pirates, they're not going to sit still and trade artillery barrages with the Guard or throw millions of schmucks into open conflict with the 'Nids.
Anonymous No.96467870 [Report]
>>96445126
500+ replies max image limit ss this.
Anonymous No.96467904 [Report]
>>96467736
also, this plays into the whole Your Dudes thing
you can say your faction is doing whatever, and there's no bad GW writing telling you otherwise
Anonymous No.96468650 [Report]
>>96453204
He did, and the plastics were so good. I started DE just because of it, I already had an old box of kabalite warriors tho
Anonymous No.96468719 [Report]
>>96453832
It's really, really good. BL accidentally got someone competent to write a Xenos trilogy for once, and he does a fantastic job of nailing down precisely the spirit of the Dark Eldar to a T. While it mostly focuses on villainous bastards betraying each other and accidentally throwing Commorragh into havoc, it's anything but one-note. Book two is a particular highlight, in that it focuses on an Incubus and a Harlequin going on jolly cooperation adventures together and showing what it looks like when Craftworlders turn evil without realizing they've gone rotten due to their arrogance. Book three is absolute fucking kino that ties up all the narrative threads of the trilogy in the most satisfying way and finally gives a glimpse at who Vect really is, beneath his egomaniacal persona.
Anonymous No.96468790 [Report] >>96468879
>>96453825
NTA but I have the first book, never got around to reading it. Maybe I should.
Anonymous No.96468817 [Report] >>96484382 >>96502622
>>96445118 (OP)
Relevant to what? The "plot"? The "story"? Both are fucking garbage. The only thing of relevancy in 40k is if they are a unique army that can fight other armies on the table top.
Anonymous No.96468879 [Report] >>96470726
>>96468790
The first book starts a little slow as the characters and their schemes are established, but is pretty decent once the action picks up. The full payoff mainly comes in the next two books though which take the individual plot threads and characters introduced in book 1 and run with them in fun new directions
Anonymous No.96469137 [Report] >>96469200 >>96470728
>>96445118 (OP)
The fact that their machines are powered by rape is kind of a hard thing to work around in a narrative context.
Anonymous No.96469200 [Report]
>>96469137
only if you're a coward like GW currently is staffed by
Anonymous No.96470726 [Report]
>>96468879
I gotta get the other two books as well then, cheers
Anonymous No.96470728 [Report] >>96479173
>>96469137
Nah how have you missed the grooming gang rapes in Britain that is constantly being ignored by their government?
Anonymous No.96470751 [Report] >>96503427
>>96445118 (OP)
All factions except the imperium are irrelevant whan you think about it. There's nothing wrong with that, though. Dark Eldars are cool. They're dark elves in space. That's all they need to be.
Anonymous No.96470807 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
orks
Anonymous No.96470810 [Report]
>>96453151
only the female head doesnt have it, theyre also gonna have multiple hea options in sprue
Anonymous No.96470829 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
Easy and low effort shit post bait thread for an army that needs (not really most of the models hold up) and is due for range refresh?
Stealth marketing thread
Anonymous No.96470833 [Report]
>>96453204
He did and that anon is just a whiny contrarian fag
Anonymous No.96470868 [Report] >>96474009 >>96479189 >>96479572 >>96490337
This is what Dark Eldar are missing.
A character like this would be a linchpin holding their history together.
Their claims, their sins and newfound dark majesty expressed, with a tragic, grand backstory and a dark, ominous, grandiose, overwhelming present presence.
Anonymous No.96470931 [Report]
>>96446121
....that's every dwarf, retard
Anonymous No.96470946 [Report]
>>96445769
Marazhai is a top tier lad.
Anonymous No.96470949 [Report] >>96478047
>>96445785
Eldar and Votan having some sort of rivalry doesn't even make any sense within 40k, to the Eldar the leagues would be just another upstart offshoot of mankind, not some ancient rival.
Anonymous No.96470952 [Report]
>>96453204
My only issue with the new incubi has always been the horned helmet. Looks too chaos like to me. A helmet like this would have been cooler imo.
Anonymous No.96471013 [Report]
>>96453204
Those swords have always looked awful.
Anonymous No.96471765 [Report]
>>96445785
no one cares about eldar either
Anonymous No.96471777 [Report] >>96472383
>>96445868
>we want squats!
>>ok here are votroons
>dont care, we want squats!
i dont know why they dont just give us what we want.
Anonymous No.96471948 [Report] >>96472106 >>96472204 >>96502667
>>96445118 (OP)
But they are the hottest.
Anonymous No.96472106 [Report]
>>96471948
mid + generic
Anonymous No.96472171 [Report]
>>96445868
God forbid they actually try anything other than copy pasting Ghimli for the billionth time. Just say you have no imagination and fear change like vampires fear the sun.
Anonymous No.96472204 [Report] >>96472326
>>96471948
Anonymous No.96472220 [Report] >>96492842
>>96445118 (OP)
The only relevant factions of 40k are SM, CSM, eldars, necrons, tau, orks, tyrannids and IG. The rest could be squatted and nobody would care
Anonymous No.96472253 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
Cause havent they already kind of won?
>In a nice little pocket dimension, away from the drama (unless they want to be in it) and no real way for others forces to enter suddenly
>Found a way to hold of Slannesh via eating souls of slaves
>Society built on solid grounds of torture, blackmail, and backstabbing
>Strong leader for untold millennia
>Have a possible out of all of this with the Ynnari, if they so wish
Dudes have no reason to quarrel. They're chilling.
Anonymous No.96472326 [Report] >>96479188
>>96472204
>the brapvent
Anonymous No.96472383 [Report] >>96472554 >>96478031
>>96471777
Because the og squats were fucking retarded and nobody besides ancient neckbeard grogs want them back. The gay biker midgets from mars look was always shit.
Anonymous No.96472554 [Report] >>96477433
>>96472383
gay fantasy dwarves with guns is better than votroons
unless of course... you like troons anon?
Anonymous No.96474009 [Report] >>96476239 >>96477145 >>96477377
>>96470868
Vect is literally that, but he's not allowed to be important now that Mike Brooks has faggotized the Drukhari. Now only Lelith matters.
Anonymous No.96476239 [Report] >>96484933 >>96484959
>>96474009
But Vect never was that. From the start he was simply the biggest and oldest Archon. He's not even laying claim to be some sort of divine king for all dark elves, much less all elves.
He wasn't even there to witness the collapse of Eldar society, unlike Rakarth.
Anonymous No.96477145 [Report] >>96479208
>>96474009
I've heard a lot of kvetching are Mike Brooks but I haven't read any of his stuff yet. Can anyone give me a run down on why he's so disliked other than his mohawk looks cringe on him?
Anonymous No.96477377 [Report]
>>96474009
Disregard cringe nu-lore, simple as
Anonymous No.96477433 [Report] >>96514155
>>96472554
fill me in: what is troonish about the Votaan?
Anonymous No.96477955 [Report]
>>96445126
Cram it, poofter!
Anonymous No.96478031 [Report]
>>96472383
Only guilders were bikers, brotherhood squats were a combination of IG and dwarf warriors.
Anonymous No.96478047 [Report]
>>96470949
Silly votan, the eldar already have the necrons as their ancient rival.
Anonymous No.96479173 [Report] >>96506124
>>96470728
It is only just, and they did it to maintain real estate appreciation.
Anonymous No.96479188 [Report]
>>96472326
Fart Slave vs the Thot Squad
Anonymous No.96479189 [Report]
>>96470868
>This is what Dark Eldar are missing.
Armless failure with pointy ears?
Anonymous No.96479208 [Report] >>96484962 >>96502262 >>96503404
>>96477145
>Suddenly aspect warriors are now recieving HRT to fit into their aspects
>Aspect warriors masks (which supposed to turn their mentality into ruthless cold blooded killers) now means jackshit, Autarchs starts crying because his GF was killed
>Suddenly Dark Eldar are no different from K-Pop fans and ready to rebel against Rakarth and Vect, just because they are simping to Lelith really really hard
>Akshually Dark Eldar society isn't cruel, sadistic, absolutely selfish etc, only Vect and Rakarth are the problem
>Lelith Hesperax are now straight lesbo
Anonymous No.96479572 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
>>96470868
Brutally mogged
Anonymous No.96480041 [Report] >>96484349 >>96506146
>>96453825
I have it was great and its on my shelf right now, There are not enough good Eldar books, The books made me really really like the haemonculus covens

I also recommend all Eldar/Deldar fans to read the Fabius Bile Books, there is Harlequin shenanigans and in the third book more Commorragh stuff as well
Anonymous No.96484349 [Report] >>96485418
>>96480041
Lukas the Trickster is excellent if you want to read about Sliscus shenanigans in realspace, because the POV is split it’s basically half a Deldar book. It’s too bad Black Library sucked so much that the author ended up leaving before he wrote anymore.
Anonymous No.96484382 [Report] >>96484419
>>96468817
>if they are a unique army
failed step one
deldar are somewhere between knockoff eldar and knockoff slaanesh, nothing unique to show for it
Anonymous No.96484419 [Report]
>>96484382
They are more different from Craftworld Eldar than any Space Marine army, loyal or chaos, are from each other. Also, there is no real Slaanesh connection in terms of gameplay other than the fact that both are fast. Not that this matters, as the only Slaaneshi factions in the game are Daemons (lul) and EC (lul).
Anonymous No.96484663 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
Ok and? Does something need to happen?
Anonymous No.96484900 [Report]
>>96445868
The teens doing all the CAD design at GW nowadays associate beards with hipsters from the 2010s. It's all about purple hair trans and non binary characters today.
Anonymous No.96484908 [Report]
>>96453825
That's the face of a tournament autist when you suggest they play a narrative based game.
Anonymous No.96484911 [Report]
>>96453832
It's pretty good, a fun read, other than the mandrake kings being nurgle worshippers.
Anonymous No.96484930 [Report]
>>96462097
>give Vect some justification for waging a proper war in realspace

The War of "I need more big titty women for my flying music boat"
Anonymous No.96484933 [Report] >>96484949
>>96476239
What? That's not right, vect was a slave before the fall, dude's old as shit.
Anonymous No.96484949 [Report]
>>96484933
Well the other account is about him born exactly during the birth of Slaanesh as Eye of Terror fucks shit up.
Anonymous No.96484959 [Report]
>>96476239
>Their claims, their sins and newfound dark majesty expressed, with a tragic, grand backstory and a dark, ominous, grandiose, overwhelming present presence.
This is Vect.
>claims
Pretty much all of the Eldar's ancient Webway cities, he's still adding new ones to his domain. If the Craftworlds weren't in Realspace, he'd claim them too. Too dangerous for his kind to operate out there for extended durations though.
>sins
He's done the whole list at this point. Probably invented new ones, too.
>newfound dark majesty
Vect is the one who coined the term eladrith ynneas (Dark Eldar) and established who and what they are, both in terms of visual flair and culture.
>with a tragic, grand backstory
Grew up a Halfborn slave, abused and mistreated by the noble houses that were responsible for the downfall of the old Empire, rose to overthrow them and install a new, stronger social order in Commorragh with himself at the helm. Five thousand years later, he is now very tired and jaded.
>a dark, ominous, grandiose, overwhelming present presence.
Vect is styling himself as the Living Muse, a demigod of mythical status to further entrench his power and set himself apart from the Ynnari's attempts to bring their religion into his city.
Anonymous No.96484962 [Report] >>96491020
>>96479208
>Akshually Dark Eldar society isn't cruel, sadistic, absolutely selfish etc, only Vect and Rakarth are the problem
This is the thing that is the most ridiculous and unforgivable. Mike Brooks wants the Drukhari to be heroic counterculture punks because that's what he personally identifies as. He also wants them all to be trannies because of his disgusting fetishes, but that's a separate issue.
Anonymous No.96485418 [Report] >>96490838
>>96484349
I thought Josh left because of Fantasy bullshit?
Anonymous No.96490337 [Report] >>96491048 >>96503491
>>96470868
It’s funny how much less relevant Craftworld and Dark Eldar are compared to their fantasy counterparts
Anonymous No.96490834 [Report] >>96504563
>>96453825
this dude looks like Oderus Urungus from GWAR
Anonymous No.96490838 [Report]
>>96485418
Naw, I think he really had some big disagreements with 40k. He was hard carrying aos though
Anonymous No.96491020 [Report] >>96491034
>>96484962
Mike Brooks is a troon?
Anonymous No.96491034 [Report]
>>96491020
no, he just fetishizes them so he forces them into every book he writes. In Lion: Son of the Forest, one of the techpriest characters was an actual, literal xir
Anonymous No.96491048 [Report] >>96493417 >>96497118 >>96502283 >>96506210
>>96490337
that's what happens when you put Gav Thorpe, notorious elf hater, in charge of all lore related to your space elves
>every single Eldar novel and short story he wrote was about them being incompetent, reckless, short-sighted retards and nothing like their codex portrays them
Anonymous No.96492568 [Report] >>96493102 >>96503515
>>96445137
I like them in theory. The idea of this technocratic society ran an anicent AI that's starting to breakdown is really cool and fits into 40k well enough. Problem is they just look like little space marines right now. I think the best way to solve that would be to field more men of iron. Gives them a bit more of an identity and also more creativity for what you could do with the robots. Also since they're all weird clones of each other and their master is starting to fail they should look more deformed and weird, like the cloning system is making them imperfect
Anonymous No.96492842 [Report] >>96493175
>>96472220
>The only relevant factions of 40k are SM, CSM
FTFY
Anonymous No.96493102 [Report] >>96493371 >>96493385 >>96493582 >>96501764 >>96503553 >>96514246
>>96492568
I like them in theory too but GW needs to make them less "clean" and more interesting and more dwarfy.

They're boring, and bordering on Mary Sues, as their only weakness is the PCs not having enough RAM.
>technology is second only to the Necrons and Eldar
>cloning/robotics means population isn't really an issue
>every other faction doesn't build large scale advanced AI with all the capabilities of one of their species, because of the risk of it falling to Chaos or uprising like the Men of Iron, but somehow the Votann are fine
>Kin can use Warp powers but are also highly resistant to Chaos corruption
>Unlike Imperium of Man, the Votann are somewhat reasonable and even one of the fairest factions, they may destroy your whole world for resources but they'll bargain or let you leave first
>Votann society is actually nice to live in, if a bit frugal it's still a paradise by Imperium standards
>They're smart and calculating enough to abandon conflicts when they know it's not worthwhile

GW needs to give them more weaknesses like:
>we delved too deep into the galactic core for our greed, and unleashed fun new terrors (think Tolkien dwarves)
>our Ironkin are falling to Chaos and having random uprisings on random worlds, killing the clonekin, but we don't stop using the Ironkin despite the risk, because money
>really, really play up the stupid pigheaded grudges angle from Fantasy dorfs, make them suicidally pursue grudges (right now only one Prospect does this)
Anonymous No.96493175 [Report]
>>96492842
weird way to type 30k
Anonymous No.96493295 [Report]
Dark Eldar didn't get fucked with as hard as Necrons but I wasn't much of a fan of the redesigns.

I liked the original Incubus but they were a little on the skinny side even for eldar. Vect's Bodyguard looked a lot better with their robe/trenchcoat giving them a little more bulk.

The >>96453204 redesign like others have said just looks too chaotic.
Anonymous No.96493296 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
That's not votann
Anonymous No.96493300 [Report]
>>96445126
GODhammer board, libtard
Anonymous No.96493371 [Report] >>96493385
>>96493102
you forgot
>their society takes pride in manufacturing goods of the highest possible standard, and dedicated craftsmanship is on display everywhere
it's not grimdark if I read about it and wish I lived there
Anonymous No.96493385 [Report] >>96493408 >>96502061
>>96493102
>>96493371
But the point of the Votann is to be a surviving remnant of the Dark Age of Technology. They're our measuring stick for what humanity used to have and has lost. It kind of misses the point if they're all as miserable as the serfs in Imperial factories.
Anonymous No.96493393 [Report]
Anonymous No.96493397 [Report] >>96493500
>>96445118 (OP)
Every scifi setting needs a faction of space pirates.
Anonymous No.96493408 [Report]
>>96493385
it's a fine balance, but ultimately I thought the point of 40k is that everywhere sucks
you can give the dwarfs their tech, but then something else must make their life unpleasant
the eldar manage to be in an uneviable position despite their technology and artistry, so it can be done
Anonymous No.96493417 [Report]
>>96491048
He also just has weird fixations like Phoenix Lords being suits of armor animated by space dust or some shit. Like, why? We already know how Exarchs work, they physically put on the suit and the dominant personality takes control of the Eldar's body. Phoenix Lords are just the original Exarchs.
Anonymous No.96493500 [Report]
>>96493397
40k already had the "good" (or at least less bad) type of fictional pirates, Ork, Eldar, and Human.
Dark Eldar being the other side of the coin, all the warnings and horror stories of classic pirates dialed up and suck in space was fun.
Anonymous No.96493582 [Report]
>>96493102
I think they shouldn't lean into classic dwarf stereotypes. I say your best bet is taking something that you say makes them borderline Mary Sues and twist it to be a problem.

>large scale advanced AI
>due to issues with ancient AIs conflict between Leagues often centers around attempts to essentially steal and and cannibalize the living memories and gods of each other to prop up one's own, which in turn usually winds up causing more issues with a Votann down the line, which triggers another conflict, etc....

>cheap cloning and robotics
>the widespread use of batch cloning and robots mean that the only thing cheaper than life among the Leagues is labor, so working yourself to death is legally enforced; large-scale projects often see the workforce liquidated upon completion if the economics of transporting them to a new job costs more than a new clone batch

>they'll bargain or let you leave first
>preemptive destruction of bargaining opposition is a valid method to ensure favorable negotiating outcomes and evacuation concessions should not be construed to prevent the destruction or capture/impoundment of fleeing vessels to prevent theft of duly noted League property as negotiated by League-recognized planetary authorities; contents of League treaties and contracts are proprietary information and not available to non-League members

They're not DORFS, they're methed up techbros deploying Coca-Cola deathsquads to enforce a 996 work week whose only guiding principle is "number goes up."
Anonymous No.96497118 [Report] >>96498374
>>96491048
It’s pretty telling when the only decent book on the Craftworld Eldar is the only one not written by Gav
Anonymous No.96498374 [Report] >>96500043 >>96500831
>>96497118
Has the Ynnari plot advanced at all ever since their novel trilogy petered out like a wet fart?
Anonymous No.96500043 [Report] >>96500831
>>96498374
Phoenix Rising narratively aborted the Ynnari by having Yvraine, the Yncarne, the Visarch, Jain Zar, Lelith Hesperax, and a Solitaire assemble and promptly get humiliated by Shalaxi Hellbane (who couldn't even be bothered to show up in person). Also, the last McGuffin sword was spirited away to the rape dimension. It was so bad that I refuse to believe Thorpe wasn't responsible in some way, it has his stink all over it.
Anonymous No.96500323 [Report] >>96500590 >>96500753 >>96500809 >>96500817 >>96503427
it's happening
Anonymous No.96500470 [Report]
>>96445769
killed them all on sight lol
same with the regular eldar cunt
Anonymous No.96500590 [Report] >>96500809 >>96500902
>>96500323
I like it. Weird choice for skin tone though, makes her look soft and innocent.
Anonymous No.96500753 [Report]
>>96500323
Really? I stopped playing Dark Eldar a decade ago waiting for new character models. Still have my 24 Jetbikes and fuckton of Hellions from buying Gangs of Commoragh boxes.
Anonymous No.96500809 [Report]
>>96500323
>>96500590
The veiled head looks so much better
Anonymous No.96500817 [Report] >>96501196 >>96501597 >>96512646
>>96500323
looks bretty gud
Anonymous No.96500831 [Report] >>96501146
>>96498374
>>96500043
last update is that all the big named characters abandoned Yvraine and went back to their original factions, while they are still on their McGuffin chase. Just now the final sword isnt in slanneshs palace anymore, its wielded by Fulgrim on his new model
Anonymous No.96500902 [Report]
>>96500590
How much of that is just the 'Eavy Metal team chronically unable to paint a female faces in a convincing fashion? The human skin tone is a weird choice for dark Eldar.
Anonymous No.96501146 [Report]
>>96500831
>its wielded by Fulgrim on his new model
Was that ever confirmed? I don't really pay attention to primarchslop lore.
Anonymous No.96501196 [Report] >>96501772
>>96500817
Another Chaos helmet instead of a Dark Eldar one.
Anonymous No.96501597 [Report]
>>96500817
>still doing the wearing-rags-made-of-skin thing
Could work as an *optional* motif.
Anonymous No.96501764 [Report]
>>96493102
>Drop cloning pod on planet
>Starts mass printing corpo slaves
>Whole purpose is to work till they fall dead and send the cargo back to main station
>Die since you were gene edited to only live 1 year

Kinda kino and fitting 40k
Anonymous No.96501772 [Report]
>>96501196
Chaosfags do not have a monopoly on horned helmets
Anonymous No.96502061 [Report] >>96502458 >>96502998
>>96493385
Not really, they aren't even humans. They're organic mining equipment with no handlers. Glorified automatic paperclip factories or the BETA from muvluv. GW should've pushed that angle more instead of just making them Kharadron Overlords in space.
Anonymous No.96502232 [Report]
>>96445785
They actually don't have a rivalry with the Eldar. They're mentioned as a faction the Votann have diplomacy with, and they specifically like the Exodites the best. Of course, they'll still mine their worlds if they want to. But they hate the Imperium much more than the Eldar.
Anonymous No.96502262 [Report] >>96502985
>>96479208
>farseer's head explodes because of a single weirdboy
It's funny because as much as Eldar job in lame ways, one area they never job in is psyker duels where warlocks and farseers consistently wipe the floor with space marine librarians. But then here's a farseer jobbing to a weirdboy
Anonymous No.96502283 [Report] >>96502953 >>96506210
>>96491048
Does Thorpe actually write for factions he likes? I know people hate his DA and SW books, for portraying them as flanderized idiots, and I see people say his Luther novel is his best novel, which makes sense if he hates the DA. I know he's a dwarf fag, was his Votann book any good?
Anonymous No.96502458 [Report] >>96502473 >>96503034 >>96506220
>>96502061
I've been curious about this, but what is the in-universe explanation for Votann having sexes? Unlike Squats, who reproduce traditionally, the kin are literally designed, optimized, and birthed from a tube by the Votann. Why in the fuck would the Votann waste precious biological budget making differentiations between the sexes when sex has no function for the kin?
Anonymous No.96502473 [Report] >>96503034 >>96503056
>>96502458
>Unlike Squats, who reproduce traditionally
Squats don't reproduce sexually. They have a votann hidden on Necromunda.
Anonymous No.96502622 [Report]
>>96468817
I see that DE players are the last in the 'fandom' to have their reason intact.
Anonymous No.96502667 [Report]
>>96471948
The agonizer whip is too short
One on the right looks too human
Both one on the left and one on the right wear way too much clothing for BDSM murder cult.

This is a picture of a Wych and two spies.
Anonymous No.96502953 [Report] >>96506210
>>96502283
>Does Thorpe actually write for factions he likes?
Yes, he initially won some acclaim for his Last Chancers books which are a shameless ripoff of the Dirty Dozen. But all the classic IG novels are shameless ripoffs of traditional war stories, even Gaunt's Ghosts is heavily inspired by WW2 literature
>I know he's a dwarf fag, was his Votann book any good?
Had some amusing moments but it wasn't that exciting. The best part was the Votann about to meet up with some Imperial elites for negotiations, then realizing they had a giant golden aquila (stolen, of course) hung up in their great hall and rushing to take it down and hide it before the Imperials walked in the door
Anonymous No.96502979 [Report]
>>96453776
>>96453825
I enjoyed it, though I never finished the final book. Andy Chambers is cool, though. He answered some of my questions about the book in a FB message.
Anonymous No.96502985 [Report] >>96506210
>>96502262
my favorite was when the Warboss of his shitty Ork books was several times faster in a fight than two Archons and a Succubus ganging up on him, speedblitzing them all dead in an instant
Anonymous No.96502998 [Report]
>>96502061
>Not really, they aren't even humans.
They're literally humans anon, they even keep that fact a secret to avoid getting invaded by the Imperium.
Anonymous No.96503034 [Report]
>>96502458
>I've been curious about this, but what is the in-universe explanation for Votann having sexes?
Because they're gene-modified humans.
>Why in the fuck would the Votann waste precious biological budget making differentiations between the sexes when sex has no function for the kin?
Because it's already in the blueprint and taking it out would be more trouble than it's worth. Also, there are times when natural childmaking is necessary (such as for frontier outposts that are too far away to get regular reinforcements and don't have a Votann of their own, and there are MANY outposts and only a few Votann holds). There's also the roving trade and mining fleets that don't return home for centuries at a time, and not all of them have a Votann in their flagship to handle reproduction for them.
>>96502473
shut the fuck up you stupid fucking secondary
Anonymous No.96503056 [Report] >>96503151 >>96503169
>>96502473
Have they yeeted Squats entirely now? Last I checked, Squats and Votann were two separate things.
Anonymous No.96503151 [Report] >>96503169 >>96503249
>>96503056
The Squats are a lost mining company of the Leagues of Votann who accepted a contract to help rebuild Necromunda after it was razed to the ground during the Horus Heresy. They have no Votann of their own, so their culture has evolved to be rather unique compared to the mainstream Leagues. They are still trying to fulfill their contract to this day.
Anonymous No.96503169 [Report]
>>96503151
Gay
>>96503056
Ungay answer: Squats got squatted and rebooted as LoV, but the OG squats were made by old GW and the reboot left EVERYONE dissatisfied.
Anonymous No.96503249 [Report] >>96503444
>>96503151
>They have no Votann of their own
Wrong
Anonymous No.96503404 [Report] >>96504140 >>96505776 >>96505868
>>96479208
>Suddenly Dark Eldar are no different from K-Pop fans and ready to rebel against Rakarth and Vect, just because they are simping to Lelith really really hard
>Akshually Dark Eldar society isn't cruel, sadistic, absolutely selfish etc, only Vect and Rakarth are the problem
>Lelith Hesperax are now straight lesbo

That book has a ton of problems, but some of these are outright wrong. A lot of people in-universe still feel content with trying to kill and overtake Lelith. Lelith is still fairly evil, she has temper tantrums and is written in commentary as killing slaves or maiming them when she gets angry.

She outright kills her subordinates for being injured, uses them as human shields. For all of its faults, she's still fairly evil.

The book also has her go to a brothel where she has sex with male and female Eldar. Even if she ends up going ham on the clam in the end.
Anonymous No.96503427 [Report]
Anyone else legitimately shocked at how small of a downgrade the new Drukhari Combat Patrol is? Like we knew it wasn't going to be a good as the outgoing borderline battleforce that GW somehow approved, but it could have been so much worse.

>>96445118 (OP)
That's not T'au.

>>96453151
Anon, all those dorfs, save the barren female, have proper (and highly ornamented) beards.

>>96470751
I would argue the Necrons are just as relevant to the narrative at this point, and possibly moreso; there's a very good argument to be made for them being the de facto protagonists at this point, and they have the best chance of triumphing over Chaos and the Tyranids.

>>96500323
>female GW model with a decent face
Obvious fake.
Anonymous No.96503437 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
They're the most dangerous and numerous faction in the fiction, if they only worked together.
Anonymous No.96503444 [Report]
>>96503249
Dude, just read the damn Squats book and stop spewing your bullshit
Anonymous No.96503491 [Report] >>96503523
>>96490337
You're not wrong, but they are still very much relevant. GW has just sort of forgotten that. Or have no idea how to write or market Eldar.
Anonymous No.96503499 [Report]
>>96445118 (OP)
Aren’t they basically not their own thing now? I thought the Eldar sort of reunited after recent events or something didn’t they?
Anonymous No.96503515 [Report] >>96503575
>>96492568
One of my biggest problems is that they are all clones/pod babies. I sort of wish there were ones naturally born with families and clans. I don't think what's written is terrible, but it'd be nice if they felt more like fantasy dwarves with noble lineages.
Anonymous No.96503523 [Report] >>96503642
>>96503491
It's more that Gav Thorpe made them his baby. His red-headed stepchild baby that he hates and tied to the wall of his basement and forcefed nothing but sauerkraut until it was twenty six and a half years old
Anonymous No.96503532 [Report] >>96503676 >>96504166
In hindsight it’s honestly crazy that he had a half naked human slave girl right there. Don’t the Eldar just view humans as evolved apes? This is sort of the equivalent of some human guy dressing a chimp in a bikini and having her on hand lol

Although half Eldar did exist in early lore so who knows ig
Anonymous No.96503553 [Report]
>>96493102
Honestly? I think they're fine there as is. It's more that they are just painfully irrelevant.
Anonymous No.96503575 [Report]
>>96503515
>but it'd be nice if they felt more like fantasy dwarves with noble lineages.
Honestly you could still do this with the whole cloneskein thing. Hell, Sword World does this with Runefolk and their replicator pods.

Basically, just make the replication process less automated. Have the Votann - or priests speaking on the Votann's behalf - name specific above-average Kin to be selected for genetic preservation and resampling as per the needs of specific Skeins. Therefore, all Kin are descended from exceptional Kin and must strive to exceed the accomplishments of their gene-donors, feeding into their expansionist drive. Everyone is well-aware they are a bespoke, mastercrafted specimen descended from bespoke, mastercrafted specimens and there's an intense pressure to live up to that legacy or die trying.

The worst fate for a Kin shouldn't be death, it should be getting "selected out" where the Votann determines your genes were a mistake and rejects you from Resampling. In fact, the majority of Chaos Kin should come from those who were "selected out" and found a new calling within the Chaos Gods.
Anonymous No.96503642 [Report]
>>96503523
I was not expecting an Albuquerque reference today at all. Nice.
Anonymous No.96503676 [Report]
>>96503532
The main reason why Eldar see humans as ugly is the scent. Bathing is a rarity in the Imperium, unfortunately. Vect likely has washslaves to bathe his barge-slaves.
Anonymous No.96504140 [Report] >>96504216 >>96504895
>>96503404
>go to a brothel
The best gladiatrix in Commorragh, renowned for her beauty and physical prowess, has to go to a brothel to get a threesome going?
Anonymous No.96504166 [Report]
>>96503532
Google "Pony the Orangutan" sometime
Anonymous No.96504216 [Report]
>>96504140
This doesn’t pass the smell test yeh

Tho it’s possible anon has misremembered and it was less a brothel and more an orgy hut or something
Anonymous No.96504563 [Report]
>>96453825
>Have you read the Path of the Dark Eldar trilogy?
No. Link?

>>96490834
Oh shit, you're right!
Anonymous No.96504895 [Report] >>96505124
>>96504140
To have no-strings attached sex that guarantees her safety, while having a sex party that lasts for several days, then yes. I could think of a myriad of reasons why she wouldn't want it at her residence.
Anonymous No.96505124 [Report]
>>96504895
>guarantees her safety
No such thing in that city, especially when you leave your personal lodgings. With that being said; if there is anybody in the 40k universe who can defend themselves while completely naked, it's Lelith Hesperax.
Anonymous No.96505776 [Report]
>>96503404
>A lot of people in-universe still feel content with trying to kill and overtake Lelith.
Nigga, she literally forcing Vect to accept power-sharing with her only because nearly half of Commoragh wish to die (completely) for her for no reason.
That's literally "le big plot-twist" culmination of the book.
Anonymous No.96505868 [Report] >>96505903
>>96503404
>The book also has her go to a brothel where she has sex with male and female Eldar. Even if she ends up going ham on the clam in the end.
Why are the books like this but the models are the most prudish dollops of plastic shit imaginable lately?
Anonymous No.96505903 [Report]
>>96505868
>Why are the books like this but the models are the most prudish dollops of plastic shit imaginable lately?
Because they have to shielf the investors eyes
Also the writers shouldn't be given an inch when it comes to sex stuff in 40k
We all remember how the first book went and how it can spiral
Anonymous No.96505939 [Report]
>>96445137
it feels like such a half-hearted and half assed attempt at dwarves in space. They were able to make steampunk dwarves just fine, and deep rock galactic set themp up for a slam dunk but they just soft balled the designs and if they weren't noticeably shorter you wouldn't even know they were supposed to be dwarves.
Anonymous No.96506062 [Report] >>96506076 >>96506101 >>96506121
Are the things hanging from his loin cloth Soulstones? Or something else? Why would he carry Soulstones?
Anonymous No.96506076 [Report] >>96506099
>>96506062
One would assume that since all the soul stones are broken they're trophies of some kind.
Anonymous No.96506099 [Report] >>96506159
>>96506076
Yeah that makes sense, you think they are soulstones too?
Anonymous No.96506101 [Report] >>96506129
>>96506062
Read lore or play game, dumbass
Anonymous No.96506121 [Report] >>96506129
>>96506062
You don't officially become an Incubi until you've slain a Aspect Warrior. They probably have hard-ons for Striking Scorpions, in particular. Also, shattering a soul stone probably is like a delicacy for any Dark Eldar.
Anonymous No.96506124 [Report]
>>96479173
>drumpf and it was justified

Absolutely brown.
Anonymous No.96506129 [Report] >>96506138
>>96506101
I ask a question of out curiosity and you reply like this, you are very pathetic
>>96506121
Cool bit of lore, thanks. It's rumoured that the first Incubus was a striking scorpion going "bad" as far as I remember.
Anonymous No.96506138 [Report] >>96506211
>>96506129
>I ask a question of out curiosity and you reply like this, you are very pathetic
How about read the codex in first place? It's literally their basic wargear, tortured soulstone turned into a weapon.
Anonymous No.96506146 [Report]
>>96480041
>the militant atheist book where he directly gets contacted by a god and just believes that belief isn't a real concept

Peak midwit trying to be smart writing summarized in that entire series. ruined fabius before he even started.
Anonymous No.96506159 [Report]
>>96506099
I'm positive they are.
Anonymous No.96506210 [Report]
>>96502953
>>96502283
>>96502985
>>96491048
The vest part about Gav is that during an interview on YouTube talking about the abysmal state of the Eldar lore, he stated he didn't have anything to do with how badly they were written and that GW had mandates for them to not be competent or more powerful then the Imperium of Man. He doesn't actually CLARIFY with proof that GW told him to do that, by the way, but apparently that's his excuse for nearly ten to fifteen years of the most dogshit writing that has ever existed for a faction.
Anonymous No.96506211 [Report]
>>96506138
I did not have the codex in front of me, instead of answer my question you replied with bile for no reason at all. Whatever you're going through, I hope it gets better.
Anonymous No.96506220 [Report]
>>96502458
Why does pic related in the votroons exist? Same answer for all of it; because GW says so, it doesn't matter how illogical it is, like Erda, it exists because they say it does.
Anonymous No.96512646 [Report]
>>96500817
He looks kinda husky for an Eldar
Anonymous No.96514155 [Report]
>>96477433
They are stolen from Deep Cock Galactic which is one of the most troonpilled reddit games in existence short of futadomworld.
Anonymous No.96514246 [Report]
>>96493102
GW should pull a Caldari from EVE Online with space dwarves
>LoV society is good at everything and all that but if you don't meet your quota or show initiative or dishonor your clan/corporation in some way you become a third-class citizen where suicide or becoming cannon fodder is the only way to redeem yourself