Thread 96448485

Getting anons riled up like it's Monday, welcome to another rocking thread of the Board Games General.

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This general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Fillers, Party, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the game that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.

TQs:
What off meta plays/builds have you seen severely irritate other players?

Are you a scripted openings or wild child type?

Trigger /bgg/ with ONE word. Hard mode: anything mentioned last thread off limits.

>>96448485 (OP)
>First for TI4 rocks!
Also, FUCK RENATURE

>>96448485 (OP)
First (probably not, I'm phoneposting and slow) for Root sucks
>Tq1
In my group off meta strats dont irritate anyone, we like to experiment
>Tq2
Im more of a wild child, yep
>spoiler
Eh that's hard, not even gonna try

>>96448485 (OP)
TQs
>Barony of Letnev player said "oops all reds" and went straight for War Suns. The table was not expecting it and were unable to hold them back while also dealing with each other's BS. Some real fun battles happened, though. Memorable game.
>I prefer to go with standard openings and stick to a tried strategy in general. When I do go rogue, I have a good time playing rough and scrappy. I just have to be in the mood.
>CORE

>>96448677
>Barony of Letnev player said "oops all reds" and went straight for War Suns.
Fucking hell that is a rich alternative to Barony swarm.
I havent gotten to play TI3 in years, and never got a chance to try TI4. I wish the stars could align for that, Im quite fond of the series and the memories.

First for LNoE is the best survival horror game out there

>>96448485 (OP)
>off meta builds irritate other players?
Using the same dealership for two (or more) mainlines in Horseless Carriage, but it only irritates whoever is using it, because it makes the factory cramped and impossible to deal with. Despite that, my opponent still won, mostly because I also went for two mainlines one dealer approach early and didn't expand my factory in a way that'd let me diversify in the midgame.
>scripted vs wild openings
Both is good, depends on the game really. Even a scripted opening in round 1 can evolve unpredictably in round 2 in response to what your opponents do, and those are the most fun types of games, where you play reactively and proactively with other people. Scripted build orders are best when they just help you reduce the thinking needed for the boring bit of the game, to let you focus on the interesting interactive bit with more brainpower.
>Trigger /bgg/ with ONE word
Hey Anon, thanks for inviting me over to game night to play your vintage copy of that old game that's never getting a reprint, check out what I brought over: Cheetos! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnv20zwUdH8

>>96448690
Well, the Barony player was the person at the table who is usually the most amicable. So they were kind of ignored when another player was kicking in doors as Sol, aggressively expanding, and I was launching unprovoked strikes as Nekro, feeding on weak fleets. Top it off with Barony getting first slice pick and taking the most resource rich one, it was a recipe for disaster.
>I wish the stars could align for that
Took me about 3 years to get a group together that I could convince to try it. That first game was cautious but magical in its own right. Best part was at the end, everyone sat there, mentally exhausted, and one person flipped over their faction sheet to read their lore. They said "wow, there's a story here?" Then everyone did the same (I had told them lore prior but I guess it went over their heads), that seemed to make everything click and suddenly they all were excited to try again. I get why folks dig on it, but I love the game for its theater and memorable moments.

>>96448923
Many of my favorite moments were post game.
4 a.m., everyone burnt out, Im driving people home, and one guy chimes out something he wish he played differently.
Now the whole car is awake and chattering on alternate builds, synergies they missed out on in the early game. The excitement to play again was so palpable.

Does anyone else rate games on the gulag they've never played? I find I can watch a playthrough and rate the game within 1 point (usually bang on) of what I would had I played it 5 times. I've rated over 400 games I've never played this way

>>96449009
Pretty clever way to answer the secret tq

>>96448994
>>96448923
Based and passion-pilled. Love these moments

>download Aftergame app because BGG integration and maybe find a group to play with
>no one uses it
>location filter doesn't filter by state, so cities with the same name show up in search
Welp, back to Meetups.

>>96449009
>doesn't also log a play of it and write a comment shitting on it
Amateur.

>>96449009
"3/10, can't be that good if I've never played it"

Id shit on a game while my comments hint that I actually played another game entirely.
If you arent raising a geeks blood pressure when he account stalks you, are you truly even trying?

Okay bgg, here's a hard mode question
You're on an island 3 other people
You're not allowed to have sex with any of them
Instead, you must survive one year and can only take one Jamey slopmier game with you (expansions are allowed)
And you must play the game at least once a day, no burning it for warmth
What do you take?

>>96449427
Vantage.

>>96449427
If it can be a non-Stegmeier game from Stonemaier, then Between Two Cities since I actually like it. If it has to be designed by the man himself, then idk, I've only played a couple and thought they were fine but nothing special.

>>96449427
Wingspan with Asia, Oceania, and the Nesting box.
I shall live in the Nesting box.

>>96449438
I see what you did there

Anyone play Sweet Lands?

Best board game of all time?

>>96449863
Carcassonne with the first two expansions

>>96449863
War of the ring with LoME

>>96449863
Hansa Teutonica big box
>>96449879
Abbey and Mayor is also really good. It's probably not as popular because it doesn't have many pieces in the box, a lot of people likely saw it as a bad value.
>>96449971
Hard to argue, War of the Ring is such a beast but it's a good time.

Thoughts on Dead of Winter? I just bought the game but haven't had a chance to get a game of it going. I guess if it's shit at least I'll have the worlds most expensive zombie standees.

>>96449863
If aliens come down to earth and ask for our best board game, I'm going to give them Go
But within the hobby space, probably Hansa Teutonica or age of steam
Route building is just such a great mechanic that I think any game even in contention needs it.

>>96450021
It's more of an "experience" than a "game."

>>96450021
Quarter-backing issue. No thanks

>>96450332
wtf do you mean by quarter backing

>>96450332
Which doesn't work due to traitors and personal goals.
If I need to hold onto gas to win, no Im not going to pitch it to the current crisis unless we are on the edge of losing. No amount of quarter backing will convince me otherwise.
Its the one good element of the game in how it sows doubt and mistrust even if the game has no traitor dealt it.

>>96450416
Tom Brady is in his group and just tells everyone what to do
When people accuse him of quarterbacking, he says that's God damn right and stares them down

Why is the manual for Caylus 1303 filtering me so hard? Is it a bad manual and/or am I just stupid? I swear I play more complicated games.

We know that TGZ is just a less cool Keyflower, but did you realise that FCM is just a less cool Dominion?

>>96450828
Horseless carriage is also just a lamer Eclipse

Spirit Island is a poor mans Twilight Imperium.
I was just too blind to see it.

TIL Castle Combos King married a barren woman.

>>96450021
A common complaint is that a competent traitor is difficult if not impossible to win against. Meanwhile a middling to bad traitor will throw the game every time.

>>96450741
If I remember correctly the game is super straightforward and easy, but a few key concepts, especially flipping the buildings are strangely worded. I do recall me staring at the building tiles unsure how it is supposed to work as well. Just watch a video of that part, takes a few minutes and is, to my great annoyance, better than the rulebook

I found the game pretty meh and wish I liked it more

>>96451036
Nice detail and I really like the game (I assume you recommended it?) but man fuck that art

>>96451061
What about the original Caylus? I see people hype that one to death, the shop I bought it from actually had both versions on the shelf. I grabbed the newer one, only because it seemed easier to get to table.

>>96451076
>Oath if it was woke

>>96451076
Oh yea CC is addictive as all get out. Easy recommend.

>>96450992
Most games can be reduced down to "Eclipse but lame" so that's not really nuanced commentary. Try again?

>>96450021
the crosswords cards had potential to be very cool yet are like 90% boring "Trigger if [character x] goes to [location y]". It's pretty ameritrashy, but in a bad way where you fiddle around with relatively irrelevant stuff. That said, I think the basis of the game is sound, it's just what >>96451037 says: a competent (read: person with a working brain) traitor is basically impossible to stop and will play along just fine only to ruin everything in one turn, making it quite unthematic. If you play without a traitor, it is trivially easy.
It's kinda like nemesis in that the game gives you handful of cool moments (I remember narrating my betrayal as blasting the john cena intro through a megaphone I found and thus, zombies overran the base) at the cost of an otherwise somewhat broken, meh game.

If it came out today, everyone would comment on how it builds narratives and is a storytelling game. That is fine and all, but if the underlying mechanics don't work well, the game isn't magically amazing.

The world would be a better place if Isaac Vega's mom didnt pester Colby Dauch at church to give her son a job.
Sure, we wouldn't have gotten Ashes, but its a trade I am willing to make.

>>96451085
Never played it. Had the same "yeah I GOTTA play caylus someday" drive, thought the 1303 version was the cleaner one and felt relatively disappointed. The thing that makes it interesting is obviously the provost, and that one failed to cause any sort of drama at our table. Not because we are averse to conflict but because it seemed inherent to the design. An example:
>last 3 buildings are occupied with other players workers
>Haha!
>You either waste an action using the provost building or 3 workers in the river phase
>if you aren't last in turn order, players will either work together to put the provost back or a single player will get fucked
>either way, you actively spent resources to either hurt one other player while the third/fourth player laugh at you or you invested way more than the other players involved in the provost hot potato
I get that turn order is massively important, but provost movement didn't play as big a role as I had hoped. Plus I have begun to find the 1 if someone else uses your infrastructure that many euros have more and more annyoing because it's always just a consolation prize and doesn't really see other players considering if they should gift you the points.

All in all a fine game but a bit too bland to me

>>96451061
>spoiler
Dont talk to me or my son ever again.

>>96451036
I think the likelier implication is that the king got cucked by the monk. It's quite tiresome

>>96451317
I was worried if 1 would be too little. When I play Hansa Teutonica with my friends, we all groan when somebody gets that one point in the late game, when you really want to finish up your networks and somebody is at 16-17 points. It's great tension.
I'll still try it and get back since well, I already have it. It was somewhat of an impulse buy since a shop had a 15% all gaming sale, and I like Worker placement mechanics that aren't afraid to be a dick. I LOVE Agricola and Dune Imperium.

>>96451358
The Stable boy is called bastard in the french edition.

Harvest (2024) by Trey Chambers is such a fun game that i'll forgive his annoying posts on BGG

>>96451453
What makes his posts annoying?

>>96451360
Was pretty much my story as well. Honestly, who knows, might just not be our game, I wouldn't call it bad by any means. It just tries the less is more approach but clearly pales in comparison to eg HT

I hate how all my friends play blood on the clocktower.

>>96451596
how so?

>>96451615
I'm not smart enough for it. Also they play it all the time. How do people not get tired of constantly playing the same game?

>>96451630
you dont need smarts to play botc, it's just a social game, if your friends only play that kinda game then maybe it's for the best

>>96448149 Same developer. https://www.eerko.nl/
>>96448485 (OP) Sleeves.
>>96449115 There's also Facebook.
>>96449427 My Little Scythe, per >>96449452.
>You're not allowed to have sex with any of them
This would change anyone's answer?
>>96449879 I prefer South Sea over vanilla Carcassonne.
>>96450416 This one tripped me up for a while too. It's when a solo game masquerades as a co-op.
>>96450828 My eyes are opened.
>>96451210 The carriage has no horse because lame horses are sent to the glue factory.
>>96451630 You might have autism.

Just played (and won) Apiary. It's resourceslop but the bee theme is cute.

>>96451474
NTA but he's very political.

>>96451689
Wtf is this posting format?

>>>96451826 Wtf is this posting format?
We may never know why lines of text were in reply to which posts.

>>96450021
It's a waste of time. Too hard to win, and even without a traitor sometimes survivors fill fuck the team over just so they con complete their objective.

>>96451630
with custom scripts it's literally impossible for Clocktower to get old. Even the base 3 are basically endless fun
>>96451683
the logic puzzle for good can get really complicated

>>96449863
Castles of Burgundy, not even close

>>96451061
>>96451085
The original is better than the update.

>>96452364
Why Castles of Burgundy?

>>96452391
With opaque bags there's basically no setup, it lulls in morons with the simplicity of it, but has enough depth to be engaging after hundreds of plays. The best part of it all though is just how you have the moment right after scoring where you look down at your kingdom and you've built something, after all of your decisions, there's a concrete thing in front of you totally irrespective of the score. There are plenty of games that do one of these things well, but there are none like Castles of Burgundy that do all of them together. The best part of it all is that the old version filtered the worst people in the hobby

>>96452364
I can't call it the best, too multiplayer solitaire for that. But I can definitely call it a personal top 5.
And fuck the haters, I like the special edition. Those acrylic tiles are great, so are the double layer duchy boards.

>>96452377
How so? Consensus seems pretty evenly divided between OG and 1303 when I look online.

Got my copy of Heart of crown 2nd

>>96453013
Sweet. I really want to get this when it hits retail. How is the card quality? Is there enough room in the box for the expansion cards?

>>96448485 (OP)
>spoiler
kniziafaggots

>>96453289
But that's a proper noun compounded with a word. Two words. OP said ONE word. Try something like this:
>Miniatures
>Quinns
>Cole
>Oath
>Catan
>Sleeves

>>96453333
please excuse me, I'm German

>>96453274
have more than enough room after removing the two gap-fillers (see those above the box). Ive put expansion to the top left of the box and still have plenty more room for future expansions. Cards look nice but feel exactly the same quality as usual cards (randomly compared with Imperium Classics and Sentinels of the multiverse cards). Would definitely sleeve them

>>96452391
CoB occupies the same space as Carc or Catan, as in "its fun as your first boardgame but why the fuck would you play ot when better games exist?". It's a dice chucker that throws in a few euro mechanics so you don't notice that its basically Monopoly

>>96452364
>>96454088
I used to think CoB was at least the best feld
It's not even in the top 5

>>96454124
Yeah it's not even the best feld, much less the best board game
anon probably hasn't tried out his other games

anyone played it? the idea and gameplay looks fun but the art looks so woke-fatiguing its turning me off

>>96454345
Wrong, I've played Civolution, Carpe Diem, Trajan, Bora Bora, Marrakesh, and Notre Dame. None of them are close to as good as Castles of Burgundy, although I did really like Civolution and Trajan quite a bit.

>>96454736
>Notre dame not better than cob
I dont agree but sure ok
Do try In the year of the dragon though

>>96454785
The guy who has it in my group keeps flaking whenever we are supposed to play it. It's on the docket we just haven't been able to table it. I still want to try Alhambra and Amerigo too, but i don't know anyone who has either of them.

>local board game store closed (sign is down) without warning or notice
Surely they're just remodeling, right?

>>96453552
Thanks for the pic and info anon. If you get around to trying it I'm interested to hear if the expansion is worth it

>>96455900
did you play there a lot? you're probably fucked

>>96455900
Facebook is your friend for this stuff

>>96449605
not yet, still waiting for the Tabletop Simulator module

Bringing Hegemony to the game day today, will it get played? place your bets!

>>96455900
>>96455974
Is this loss?

>>96456862
no, we will be playing wingspan (4 players) and flip7

>>96456862
Well, can you teach it?
And I mean ALL of it

If not don't even try

>>96456894
No, it's Metamorphosis.

played galactic cruise this weekend
I liked it, we'll see how replayable it is

>>96456862
Hegemony is a destination game - you can't just show up with it and say "hey, you guys want to play this 4-5 hour game with an involved teach for each faction?". It might even be a game that lots of people you know want to play but it's a huge commitment in time. Best you can hope for, if you have the players that are good with it, is a learning game of a round or two.

>>96456862
Betting no and when I win I want my prize to be that you buttchug some hot coffee.

Anyway, I hope that motivates you to read the rulebook and commit the time to teaching.

>>96453337
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/47222714/#47223427

>dry spell from the start of august has just been extended by another week
Before I bore you with further blogposting, I have now gotten a whiff what makes people go full consoomer. I have, probably subconciously as a replacement for the fun/destressing I was supposed to experience, bought more games in this 1 month than in the last six months. To be fair, most were superb second hand deals but still, it's insane how quickly I have accumulated a pile of shame.
Furthermore, everyone trying to rebrand it as "Pile of opportunity" is a faggot

>>96454088
What Carcassonnesque game is better than Carcassonne?

>>96457781
Rajas of the Ganges and Alhambra
And Horseless Carriage

>>96457848
If you can't strand your opponents' meeples then it's not as good as Carcassonne, sorry

>>96456799
Explain

>>96458008
Unless you live in the middle of the middle of nowhere there is a Facebook group for board game reselling in your local area. It can connect you with meetup events or gaming groups looking for players.

>>96456838
>he missed the TTS module when it was still up
The publisher has explicitly said they'll takedown any TTS uploads, so you're gonna be waiting a while unless you grab the backup save.

>>96449863
I'm gonna say Last Night On Earth

>>96458008
check the game store on Facebook, they all dont stop yapping every update on there

Favorite bullet character and why

Wait, what is even the point of money in Food Chain Magnate? You don't do anything moneylike with them aside from paying salaries which is the equivalent of harvest in Agricola.

>>96459050
>what is even the point of money
It's how you determine who the winner of the game is.

>>96459161
Sure enough. It does say that.

What is even the point of victory points in Concordia? You don't do anything pointlike with them aside from determining the winner at the end which is the equivalent to scoring in El Grande

>>96459292
I never understood why there was a victory point track either. Maybe it's relevant to one of the expansions. I only have Venus.

>>96459306
Yes actually, but barely. There's at least one forum tile in the Salsa expansion that gives you points mid-game.

Pick 3.

>>96459161
Sure, what I meant is whats the point of physical monopoly money? Since there's no economy within the game, money doesnt trade hands, its not spend on anything, no loans or investments, you may as well just abstract it into tokens, or even a track

>>96459485
I don't want any of these. Can I have the background instead?

>>96459485
How did you manage to find eight of the blandest games imaginable?

>>96459532
7 of them are her right now. And I've definitely seen the other 2 here before.

>>96459485
Burning Banners
Arnak
Arcs

>>96459564
Why aren't you buying Vantage?

>>96458942
I mainly play Arle (on TTS). I uploaded Vic Viper who seems pretty fun, only played her a couple times though since she's not scripted.

>>96459564
They shouldn't be

>>96458942
I am torn between Rose and Rei.
I either want to make love to the camera, or get the sweet satisfaction of hitting homers.

>>96459485
>BB, DIU, Arks
Easy choices for me since the goal is to bait people into playing Here I Stand and TI4.

>>96457848
>spoiler
the fuck does it have to do with Carcassonne, come on
>>96459485
Arcs, Ark, Dune uprising i guess, but the only other games i've played from that selection are SETI (meh) and Arnak (the novelty runs out very fast and then it just becomes painfully mediocre), Burning Banners seems fun
I played Dune Uprising with 6 players and it was surprisingly smooth and fun

>>96456838
>>96458090
As it turns out, they uploaded an official mod but then hid it later.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3261600134

I have the best taste in board games
Prove me wrong

>>96461291
I can't stand the taste of cardboard but maybe I'm cooking it wrong. Post recipes.

>>96461296
>cooking your games
What? No. Plastic miniatures are perfectly chewable without that

>>96461302
>Plastic miniatures
Welp, there you have it. Proved how shit your taste is. Why would you eat that artificial crap when wooden and metal pieces are right there? Much more natural, nutritious, and not filled with all those chemicals big brother is using to turn you into a onions boy. This generation, I swear.

>>96459485
Arnak, Andromeda's Edge and Endeavor because those are the ones Ive played. Arcs is the only one that loses on merit.

>>96454629
Too simplistic. You think the decks stacking element is going to be interesting but then it just never goes anywhere. If your woke fatigue is terminal, the gameplay will not be strong enough. Sakura Arms still exists.

>>96459485
I have heard that Burning Banners is unpleasantly long. It is also expensive.
>SETI
>Ark Nova
I don't know why you'd spend money on these. They're just like Unconscious Mind, and you can go get Unconscious Mind second hand from the people who are already bored of it for much cheaper.

>>96456838
>>96458090
>He isn't in the secret Discords.
https://files.catbox.moe/a8zcpf.json

>>96461634
This is just dolphin porn.

>>96461634
But to answer the original question; Sweet Lands is about jacking off over your pretty player board until someone arbitrarily wins due to having the best special ability.

So standard modern euro stuff. I'll play it again after I update the TTS mod to my absurd standard.

>>96461658
>comfy
>good art
>japanese theme
>totally uninspired, rote gameplay

why are they like this

>>96461634
Yes, yes, we're all in the TTS Save discord. I have both uploads too.

>>96461658
But what about the worker placement action selection? I thought that was gonna be at least somewhat interactive...

>>96461766
Go play Argent then.

>>96461634
>>96461658
>Korean version
>when the English version was posted a few posts before you
Not the brightest bulb...

>>96461703
where is the tts save discord?

>>96460520
>I played Dune Uprising with 6 players and it was surprisingly smooth and fun
i was pretty impressed with the 6p mode. it was satisfying to win as the emperor team without even the possibility of worms

>>96459488
Paper money is more thematic? Why is this even a question for you, are you autistic?

>>96458942
>>96459603
>>96459873
Was wanting to get bullet, but why the fuck are the bullets only one-sided? aren't you constantly drawing them out of the bag and rotating them? Is there a reason they need to be hidden? I was thinking of getting heart and star, slicing the star copy's bullets to match the heart bullets, then put them in a coin capsule.
The wooden upgrade bullets aren't even double sided. wtf

Two threads ago an anon asked me what STLs I printed for Mansions of Madness. I'm back from my holiday and looked it up for you. Here they are if you're still around:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2170822

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3617098

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4298245

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4499123

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3329094

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1920445

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3617082

>>96463432
Bullets you clear during the round are given to the next players' Incoming, face down, then at the end of a round you shuffle your Incoming into your Current, together with the rounds' Intensity modifier's worth of bullets from the Center. The reason why they're face down is so it's harder to tell what you'll get next round, unless you're looming at your opponent boards during the gameplay.
Plus, some characters flip the bullets face down as part of their gimmick, and double sided bullets would fuck with the gimmick too much.

>>96457121
>>96457444
>>96457464
You guessed correctly. We played Brass Birmingham and Ark Nova. Turns out comfort picks were the enemy not the teach or time commitment.

>>96457174
Yes, there's nothing crazy about the teach other than paying taxes. It's 5 rounds play 5 cards, do some elections, do some scoring, do some income/upkeep, rinse repeat. It's two pages of rules. The long part of the teach is explaining everyone's asymmetric actions and luckily they're mostly shared by at least one other player and out printed giant ass player aids.

>BGG user has a game I want for trade
>I don't have anything they are looking for
Is it rude to ask if I can just buy it off them? I live within driving distance too so we wouldn't even have to bother with shipping.

>>96464036
His kallax will capsize if he removes a box without replacing it.

>>96464008
>Turns out comfort picks were the enemy not the teach or time commitment.
did you even tell them beforehand? you can't just randomly pop up and suddenly demand commitment, ease them into it

>>96464036
Why would it be rude? I sell games i've put up for trade all the time, you can't expect to always have the exact trade you want, so "trading" for money is the next best option.
If it is set as "for trade", odds are that they don't really want to keep the game(s) anyway

>>96448485 (OP)
>Trigger /bgg/ with ONE word. Hard mode...
Sex

>>96463609
Not the Anon you were replying to, but you are definitely doing the Lord's work. Keep it up.

>>96443804
I've been meaning to get an insert for that myself. Do you have a recommendation?

>>96464112
No, but this group is the best in town. They'll play a heavy unsolicited no problem. The real truth is that I didn't advocate for it at all because one player specifically really wants to play it, and he didn't show up this week so I didn't feel obligated to set it up.

>I have the best taste
>Doesn't list tastes
no (You) for you

>>96464251
you're still supposed to at least talk about it beforehand

>>96464279
Just because it's Hegemony we're talking about doesn't mean the players are going to stage a strike and refuse to play.

>>96464279
Whose law? Your law or mine joker?

>>96464333
>>96464343
>they don't even make plans or talk on the group chat about what they'll bring to game night, just show up with a random heavy game no one has ever played
grim

>>96464372
The trick is to not fear a heavy game. It's part of the hobby.

>>96461580
>I have heard that Burning Banners is unpleasantly long. It is also expensive.
If you are trying to play the campaign, absolutely. But the game is really just a bunch of scenarios - you can play most of them in like 60-90min. It is 100% more expensive than it needs to be.

It is the perfect hex and chit wargame, though. Like it's incredibly well done, easy to follow, and multiplayer.

>>96464372
The only games I've ever announced to my group beforehand are games we'd played before, and only because they were group favorites people were looking forward to.

>>96464479
>It is the perfect hex and chit wargame, though. Like it's incredibly well done, easy to follow, and multiplayer.
Of all the non-fantasy war themed wargames the fantasy one is the perfect one?
Or did I misunderstand and there are other, just as good ones?

>>96464450
>not fear a heavy game
that's not the point, neither I nor does anyone in my group fear heavy games, but if you don't even gauge for interest in the games you want to bring you'll just be hauling pointless weight around for no reason, it just looks incredibly stupid to not even have the slightiest semblance of plans or make known what the options are
>>96464520
should be other way around

>>96464372
Every time I coordinated ahead of time we ended up playing something else.

>>96464069
Kek
>>96464123
I've tried it twice before and never got a response. Wasn't sure if I was breaching some social code at the gulag or something.

>>96464551
Of all hex and chit wargames, bar none. It skinnies down the game play without deluding the experience. Combat is quick, there's a lot of tactical fun. You still get to chuck dice all over the place.

>>96464649
>should be other way around
My group likes novelty and isn't afraid of slop of any weight, so no.

>>96463609
I am the anon who asked, thanks!

>>96465189
Again it's not a matter of being afraid or not but whatever I give up, keep on with your impromptu evenings with absolutely no planning whatsoever, carrying around games half of which dont even get looked at

>>96465189
NTA but we get what you are saying. I am spoiled with a group that will play almost everything I put in front of them, everyone is extremely good with picking up all the rules from a single teach and play competitively the first time around.
We still say "hey, I'd like to play X next time". If the stars align they all might even learn the rules beforehand (ok that happened exactly once). But the biggest thing is you avoid someone/you taking a bunch if big boxes with you only to hear naaah anon I'm not in the mood for 'german autobahn autism today'. Plus finding what game to play next is far easier that way

>>96465312
>>96464173
You're welcome anons.

just printed an organizer for C&C Napoleonics and I can safely say the worst aspect of this game is setting it up

What games never leave your bag? For me it's Innovation and Cockroach Poker, the perfect filler and palette cleansers.

>>96466521
Innovation, Insider, Turncoats, Pax Ren, and my two games.

>>96466521
Eclipse

>tempted to crowdfund an amerislop game
>for some reason read the comments on the page
>XD a solo mode would be sooo amazing, please do it (it's a fucking 1v4 hidden movement game)
>Hey I had an idea for a monster that's a gremlin you should implement it!
>[Language] please!
>I immediately want a deluxe mat!

No wonder crowdfunding seems so anti-customer, they are basically begging to be scammed

>>96466846
Kickstarter, Gamefound and P500 are made for paypiggies willing to be scammed.

>>96467044
I don't disagree with the first two, but p500? Why

>>96466577
Well, anon? Are you waiting for us to ask?

>>96467100
Same reason.

>>96467204
...because you're loaning zero interest money for an unknown time to maybe receive a product you could like?

Not how p500 works though

>>96466007
Got a link handy? I’d love a good organizer for that game.

>>96467272
Yeah, get fucked with your strawman.
Because you're gambling on an unreleased project in the hopes it will turn out right. It relies on FOMO to get you to buy trash games you wouldn't buy otherwise.

>>96374725
How many is enough. The guy who deisgned Agricola claims to own 250 games (src: his gulag). Meanwhile the guy while the guy who drew Agricola's art claims to own 2000.

>>96467366
>you're gambling on an unreleased project
P500 only charges you money once they're getting ready to ship the finished games. You can back out after GMT has paid for everything and leave them stuck with extra inventory.

>>96467418
>P500 only charges you money once they're getting ready to ship the finished games. You can back out after GMT has paid for everything and leave them stuck with extra inventory.
I know, it doesn't change anything I said.

>>96465313
>carrying around games
Lol, lmao even. The game nights are organised at my house, where the collection is. Yeah, for people who drag around games, planning is mandatory. Bad form for a group to have someone lug a box around and not open it up.

>>96467444
But theres no fomo? Nor a monetary risk they dont follow through
Theres no campaign window that closes, no stretch goals or early bird "first 209 backers 10$ discount" tactics to feed the beast.
I can get in on a P500 and it sits at 100 orders for years and years. And Ive lost absolutely nothing. Where is the fomo or scam in that?

>>96467480
>But theres no fomo? Nor a monetary risk they dont follow through
There's definitely FOMO because their games go out of print for long periods of time so either you buy early or you won't be able to buy for a long time, sometimes ever. And I'm not sure why you're so fixated on the monetary risk, I never mentioned it and already told you several times it's not a factor for me.

>>96467499
You're responding to a different anon. I realized it was your personal crusade here >>96467366

>>96467539
Yeah, I'll continue talking shit about KS, GF and P500 till the day I die.

>>96467499
>And I'm not sure why you're so fixated on the monetary risk, I never mentioned it and already told you several times it's not a factor for me.
You use the word scam and Im supposed to conclude you do not care about the money? Bit of a stretch ask there mate

>>96467551
That's alright, with me, I dislike crowdfunding as well, but for a reason. I don't think you understand what you even hate about the concept of p500 but shit on it regardless

for what it's worth, I barely have a horse in this race, I p500'd the reprint of churchill.

>>96467580
Spending money on a half-baked, undertested, underdeveloped game is as much of a scam as not delivering a game at all. I care about my money by not participating in FOMO and not preordering games.

>>96461889
>Anon hates the gooks so much he'd prefer an unscripted clusterfuck table in a language-independent game.

>>96467591
I understand very clearly what I hate about P500, you just decided to ignore it, take apart your own ideas of why I hate it, and now complaining that I'm not convinced by your strawman. And I P500d zero games so I have even less skin in the game than you, as if that matters.

>>96467612
you keep saying half-baked game ideas. P500 games are fully designed long before money is charged. And also used to get together enough people that want a reprint of some game.

You can check the rulebooks, designer videos and diaries, unboxings of prototypes, hell sometimes even a version to try on some wargaming websites. Before there is any commitment.

Point being, no, you do not understand.

>>96467632
As soon as you realise you are talking to the guy that tried to force gmtrannies and splitting wargames apart from /bgg/ for years on end, the sooner you can stop replying.

>>96467632
>reddit spacing
That's not a differentiator, on KS and GF you can see the rulebooks before you pledge most of the time. The games can still turn out trash, as Gest of Robin Hood and RDR clearly showed.
So no, KS, GF and P500 are the same in all the ways that matter.

>>96467640
Yeah, I knew and I still went for it despite knowing better. Apologies.

>>96467652
>avoiding bulk of anons points
>m-m-muh redduht
Lol
Lmao

>>96467674
Have you tried reading beyond the first line of my post, retardo?

>he buys games in retail
Kek, retail is just basically the end stage of crowdfunding AKA a scam
Personally, I wait to have enough reviewer information online to conduct a meta review with adjusted scores, then wait another 1-4 years until I can see if the game is still talked about on the gulag. Only then will I go through the trouble of acquiring a copy on the secondary market that's still in shrink, thus giving no money directly to the scammers aka publishers, all without ever having had to lay eyes on the rulebook for a second. It's that easy, but you have to be man enough to not play by their rules.

>>96467765
Deeply discounted retail is where it's at.

Best game if I just want a pretty board?

>>96467774
Seeing Seafall at 15$ year after year in different flgses has never managed to persuade me to give it a go.

>>96467788
Seafall was great. It showed a lot of Rob Daviau cultists how bad he is at board game design.

>>96467806
You say this like his Pandemic Legacy games did not reach critical acclaim for years afterwards.

>>96467815
They did and everyone hailed Rob as some genius and one of the greats, then he released Seafall and the discussion shifted from him being great to Pandemic Legacy being great. He does well stapling Legacy onto existing good games like Pandemic but when developing a game from the ground up, he sucks ass.

>>96467777
best game if you just want a pretty board is getting into another hobby that's not this, just go buy a painting or something

>>96467652
>Gest of Robin Hood
>trash
Stop talking out of your ass.I have over a hundred games of A Gest and the game is absolutely fine.

we had one beautiful thread and then turned bitter
i'm going to go play Uwe games until we can all chill out

>>96467591
>for what it's worth, I [...] have a horse in this race, I p500'd the reprint of churchill.

>>96468031
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed it.

>>96468031
Barely. that's the word you're missing. which means "not much"

>>96467774
I bought Horseless Carriage for $100 off MSRP and I still got ripped off.

>>96468080
For HC to not be a rip off they'd have to pay you to take it off their hands

>>96468080
>>96468093
For what it's worth, I like it more than FCM.

Rather than clogging up my TTS workshop list, I just add all the titles to a dummy BGG account I made and then use a site to pull a random one based on how many friends are playing at the time.

>>96468287
sorry what

>>96468031
That was years ago, anon. Plus, I knew exactly what I got there because the game had been out for years by then.

What is your point?

>>96468080
I figured it was crap when my lgs had it on their clearance table for $40 (maybe the wholesale price), yet they were asking $130 for the ketchup mechanism.

>>96468404
>130 for ketchup
what kikery, on second hand markets you easily find listings for both base AND ketchup for less than that

>>96468322
https://www.playsbest.com/games
https://www.bgpicker.com/game-picker
https://www.boardgamehelpers.com/WhatShouldWePlay/Default.aspx
https://bgbester.netlify.app/

My friends are indecisive, so I just use these to pick some out for the weekly game night.

>>96468287
>>96468439
You and your friends are indecisive to the point where making bgg dummy accounts to pull random games is easier than agreeing on one?

Dire

>>96468418
At the time, I seem to recall it being out of stock, so maybe they figured their unsold copy would suddenly become attractive. But with sales tax that's
Like 140 out the door, lol

I just waited and got it for 95 from gamenerdz.

>>96468439
Be decisive and pick one site

>>96468458
It's great for playing games that you'd otherwise never want to play. Otherwise we'd just play the usual every time and it'd get stale.
>what should we play
>uhh idk let's just play X like last time

>People still getting filtered by Horseless Carriage
Kudos to Jeroen and Joris

>>96468538
I played it and thought it was mediocre. I understand neither the glazing for it from Splotter fans nor the hate for it from people in this thread.

>>96468490
>don't want to play a game
>but the randomizer says we gotta
Not being shitty, but how is this better than playing what you want/like until you feel like mixing it up?

What's with the different LotR games coming out all at once? I mean I like LotR but titles like "The Fellowship of the Ring: Trick-Taking Game" are extremely red-flaggy

To my great suprise I just checked it out and the game looks actually interesting despite being a tricktaker.

>>96468592
My friends said they want to try a few new games every week, so it works for us. If we realize we don't want to play it, we just move on. We usually end the night with a regular after trying some new ones. It's been pretty nice so far, feels good to have an open-minded and curious group.

>>96468553
those who ""hate it"" just either think it's mediocre or simply their weakest game (among the known ones, so not counting the ones with weird names nobody heard about), those who glaze on it probably have some special kind of autism and play it to death even though it's likely the splotter with the least variance between plays
it's kind of divisive but not really, the non-fans are just cold and indifferent on it

>>96468553
People that love it love the spatial puzzle aspect of it, those who hate it have a weird obsession against Splotter and/or have the kind of autism that a game like HC really bothers.

>>96468781
>weird obsession against Splotter
where is this 'weird obsession against splotter' when they just say "the other splotters are better", havent seen anyone ever say "wow hc is so shit! splotter sucks!!!"

Are there any good resource mining games? I'm thinking of something where you have to take out loans, explore/acquire land, invest in equipment, build out mines, sell product into the market

>>96468863
Could also be oil drilling
Pipeline is not what I'm looking for, other than game weight and economic focus

Do y'all ever agree on anything??

I'm trying to gift a fan made Ticket to Ride map as a Christmas gift for a friend. I've PnP'd cards before so I'm not worried about that, but I've never made a game board before.
At first I thought of looking for an old beat up copy of TtR to glue the new map onto, but the fan made map is a bizarrely large size so that won't work.
I've looked into getting the board custom made, but it'd cost nearly $100 which is too steep for me atm. I was quoted at $81 (before shipping) by a seller on Etsy, which is better but not by much.
Now I'm thinking of going to Staples, having them print the board as a poster, and laminating that. I just got off the phone with my local store and they quoted me at less than half the price as my other options so far.
Before I go through with this, I wanted to check in with any PnP pro anons here for their input. Any help would be appreciated.

Splotter fans after another fun 6 hour game of Roads & Boats

>>96469009
boardgaming is an extremely subjective hobby, more so than videogames, movies and many others. so it's hard to find people who have the same exact opinions on the same games
in short, no, and that's a good thing
>>96469042
yes that's literally me, except the longest R&B game i've played was 4 hours, you're quite a bit off

>>96469038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nx98dxxLJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbbD_Qn4dY4

>>96463740
Ah thank you for the answer, I'll see if I can find which characters flip it over. Thanks

>>96469042
Yes, but after a 4 hour Antiquity game I lost by being polluted.
I wasn't even mad.

>>96469042
Thank fuck I don't like R&B.

>>96469038
If you go to the thrift store you can find old games for $3 with a nice variety of boards to glue over.

>thread starts off with bleating about stonemaier business practices
>winds up with lining up to get sheared by splotter again
I love you guys, never change

>>96469408
Thanks, I love you too

what are the best asymmetrical games
besides mysterium i already know about that one

>>96469453
have you tried root?

After a few plays I really like Andromeda's edge at 2 players. Need to get it to table with 4-5 as my only 4 player game was the demo I got. Could see it being too cumbersome with the more competitive aspect and downtime that brings but I still really like the blend of euro and ameritrash the game has. Neither occupies too much time and both give opportunities for the other to thrive.

>>96469483
i meant more like 1 player vs. 2 or more but i should have specified
yeah i've played root, it's kind of fun but also kind of a headache, it's like one game but you have to learn and keep track of multiple different games at the same time

>>96469453
For something small and quick I like the infinity gauntlet love letter game

>>96469676
I'd love for some archenemy games but I don't think theres enough of a market for it. Could be an interesting niche to fill. Try and bend adversarial GMing into a more tight and competitive experience.

Any Railways of the world players here? I want an expansion map and have the big box, plus the Europe expansion. I'm debating between
>Australia, for the switch tracks and australia jokes I can make while playing it (and it's low in stock, might not be able to get it again)
>Portugal, for another small map (East US and Europe are both pretty big. Plus the ocean mechanic seems pretty cool)
>Western US, to combine with eastern US and try the crazy transcontinental game. (I actually do have a table big enough for it)
Railways through time seems complicated, I don't think I'd be able to table it much.

I have root-fatigue, that game is such a glib facsimile of what an asymmetrical wargame should be

A friend of mine recently got into a relationship and now they've been ducking our normal weekly gaming session. It's a rough time out here.

>>96470161
Get a team game, group up against them, make them lose, so they get angry and break up.

are there any games that are like Root but good? and have actual combat and not just "build this bullshit for points xD" like you're playing a faggot eurogame?

>>96469453
summoner wars

Fuck you bgg, I like Spirit Island.

I'm up all night to get lucky

I saw my LGS stocked up on Star Trek: Captain's Chair, and I believe a few threads ago an anon was raving about it here. Somebody, give me a rundown of it.

What is the game about?
Why does it say it's best at 1 on BGG, is it not a dueller?
Why do some reviews whine about how long and complex it is?
How does its complexity compare to WotR/TS/IS (yes I know they're different kind of games)?
How luck-based is it?

Been looking for another 1v1 game to add to my collection, things are getting a bit stale and/or frustrating. Not gonna play WotR again for a good long while due to dice shenanigans.

>>96469453
undisputed champion of its class

>>96469453
Crescent Moon
Netrunner
DC Forever

>>96469676
i call this 1 vs all
Tragedy Looper is the answer btw

The only playable splotter games are Bus and TGZ. The rest of their oeuvre belongs to the "aint nobody got time or table space for this shit" category.

>>96470586
I found it fun in a lot of ways but man fuck Dracula hiding at sea and a good part of the game being the draw cards/tickets in a city action

>>96470620
I'm gonna host that on Monday with my friends now that I've finally pulled them into TTS. Might do Hong Kong Murder and Kronologic too.

>>96470265
Ironwood is a fun card driven 2p asymmetrical battle game.
>>96470586
Is it back in print?
>>96470618
I can second Netrunner and its continuation is good despite the awful behaviour of its team members—though I haven't touched the most recent cycle at all.

>>96470638
Indonesia doesnt need as much time or table space
For FCM all you need to fix the table space issue is a card stand

>>96470638
You left out all their filler games. Dr'af can take as little as 10 centimeters by 1 meter and 30 minutes per meter.

>>96470620
based DC forever chad

>>96470767
if you mean elevation its............... ok if you play it kitchen table casual its probably a bretty good time. i feel like all the tournament grinders are going through some extreme cope atm with regards to the state of the game

>>96471306
Tourney tcg and lcg players always find something to be arse-pained about. Seems like even the kitchen table approval was hesitant though, now I will have to read the spoiler when I am properly awake.

>>96470764
Speaking of TTS, I have been contemplating whether getting the Three Kingdoms Redux dlc will be forbidden cthonic knowledge forever scraping my brain and scratching into my skull— "reprint never ever."
Rate this torment from 1-10.

>>96470640
Yeah, the sea thing honestly just needs to be house ruled. Double the damage he receives at sea and it will be fine, something actually used in emergencies or trickery, not hiding out for 6 turns straight.

>>96470767
No idea, sorry.

>>96470638
Roads and Boats doesn't take that much space either, though. And you can replace the thing you draw roads on with your spare notepad and some scissors.

>>96471451
Never buy DLCs for Tabletop Simulator until they actually fix all the spaghetti code. Use something like CreamAPI or it's offshoots.
As for "reprint never ever", yeah that sucks but at some point you learn to live with the pain.

>>96471864
>Roads and Boats doesn't take that much space either,
The gulag says it takes 4 hours.

>>96469818
Depends on player count. I like the Europe map and Portugal map. If you can find the Nippon map, it's my favorite because it's really tight and the cards are really disruptive.

>>96472083
Only if you're dead slow and have analysis paralysis. Otherwise it's almost simultaneous gameplay means you just breeze through the rounds.

>>96472083
>space = time

>>96472339
TRVTHNVKE but also if that weren't the case >>96470638 would still filter you.

>>96472339
Looks like someone didn't pass Physics 101

Pray for me as I attempt to complete the campaigns of two board games for HexPlore It volume 1 and 2.
Both are choose your own adventure style games using frankly absurdly large books with two columns of text per page on average. The first one is the smallest at just under 530 pages. Fortunately, it is said that most playthroughs will only experience around a fourth to a third of content.

The second campaign is roughly double the length of the first.

>>96472439
Physics 101 doesn't say that space=time. It says that the two are related and can be mathematically expressed as a 4D object.

>>96472585
I took Physics 101 four times so trust when I say none of that spacetime shit is there.

>>96472796
if you needed four attempts at anything 101 i really can't trust you with anything

>>96472821
Fuck you my intelligence test showed my IQ is 100%.

>>96472821
>he can't trust morons to do something stupid
Skill issue. This is why you sequester yourself to MPS.

>>96469661
>really like the blend of euro and ameritrash the game has.
I want to try Andromeda's Edge as I had similar feelings after trying the Dwellings of Eldervale once when visiting my brother's gaming group. Not sure if it's something I'd buy, but I had a good time with it. I'd like to see how AE compares.
This might have been helped by the fact that I smoked them too.
Apparently no one had ever played the Centaur faction for whatever reason. I was already going to pick them because centaurs are cool, but once I saw their ability that lets you flip a die to 6 (or something along those lines it's been half a year) I knew it was going to be delicious.
They learned to respect the Centaur master race that day.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>>96472796
>I took Physics 101 four times
So you're more of a physician than a physicist eh?

>>96472796
there's your problem. 101 four times is 404, and that means the classes didn't exist.

>>96472838
morons will find a way to make even stupid things dangerous for all concerned, so yes i wouldn't trust morons to be stupid without supervision, else their stupid might affect me in dangerous ways

Played Sweet Lands twice on tts and I think I can say it's mediocre euroslop but also weirdly addicting... i'll probably play it one more time and then forget about it

>>96469661
I was highly skeptical of Andromeda's Edge and stayed away from it during the release hype. Now that it's on BGA, I've played it a few times at 2p at it's actually pretty good. My only concern is that the track climbing module strategy is a bit degenerate, but I got wrecked by a Chinaman going hard on tactics cards the other day so maybe I'm wrong. I do wonder if it becomes a slog at 4p. It's already a little long with BGA handling the upkeep at 2p.

I've now played 50 or so games of agricola over the years and only today I realized that there is no tiebreaker rule

Also goddamn you'd think with how popular agricola/barrage are there'd be more tight and interactive euros, but there really aren't many.

Is this what stonemaier teaches us? Your games sell as long as you insist that every form of interaction must be positive and nothing in the game should ever feel bad to anyone

>>96473128
play Harvest. it's like Gric for furries

>>Container reprint
I deserve this

>>96473196
I've tried it and found it much less mean than I'd like. It's pretty quick and cute and absolutely fine but if I never ever got to play it again I wouldn't mind all that much

>>96473081
is there anything interesting or unique mechanically?

>>96473128
>Puerto Rico
>Hansa Teutonica
>Brass
>Troyes
>Mexica
>El Grande
>Dogs of War
>Chinatown
Cmon my dude, reddit is giving you brainrot

>>96473387
Haven't played troyes and mexica and chinatown is not a eurogame. I agree about the rest but I worded my rant poorly; what I miss is the mean element, the negative interaction.

As an aside, why do people seem to like dogs of war so much? I am pretty sure it's just an effect of being oop for a long time; I always found the game a good idea that turns out to be a rather mediocre game, one that never is as interesting and cool as you'd imagine it from the rules.

>>96472095
I thought Nippon was an entire stand-alone game, sortof like Ticket to ride europe?

>>96473497
It's 98% the same game, but yes. I think there is a Japan map for RoW, confusingly.

>>96467338
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3663929
Really just for the units, but it speeds up setup/teardown so much it's worth it. if you have any expansions I can't imagine this is worth it.

>>96473352
I dont think it invents anything new
Plays in 5 rounds (about 2 hours)
You have cards that you can play to your tableau to do shit or you discard them to perform actions, if you or somebody else did that same action in the round you have to discard more
Each player has their own map they build shit in, there are many tracks to advance which provide better and better score opportunities and multipliers
The player interaction is basically only on the action spaces but the cards give you a decent degree of flexibility and there are multiple ways to score vps. Fairly high on the point salad scale and a good 70-80% of the points are scored at the end, a couple of them are "player with most / second most X"

>>96473733
I gotta be honest, it doesn't sound that good to me. Without the unique theme/art this would probably not even get a second look.

>>96467165
I don't figure most people care about unpublished prototypes, but I'm working on a game inspired by 4X and Pax games where you play as privateers in the golden age of piracy and a worker placement game where you're cowboys. A few threads back I brought it up when an anon said they played two prototypes, because I'm pretty sure they played my prototype. I have a bunch of other designs, mostly small card games but I always have those two on me because they are easy to travel with, but pretty hard to get playtesters for.
thanks for reading my blog

>>96473840
what general geographical area are you from?

>>96473496
it's just because it's out of print. It's a pretty good game, but people always hype up games you can't get. Forbidden Stars is like this too, people act like it's the best game ever now because you can't get it, even though it has serious downtime issues with the combat in 3 and 4p games

>>96473880
midwest pretty sure based on the description alone you could find pictures of the 4x pax game

Imagine a /bgg/ meetup where we all show up at a hotel and play each others prototypes and attempt to offer useful feedback and even have dedicated workshopping time

Is Heaven & Ale any good? I see some people online hyping it up but the game is nowhere to be seen otherwise. Anyone here had a chance to play it?

>>96474033
there's an amateur game design thread on /tg/ each month and the only people who post there are making ttrpgs/mtg clones as a masturbatory exercise

>>96472882
Yeah factions are unbalanced here too but maybe less so. Forgefolk are definitely busted though.

>>96473115
I demo'd it at gen con and the 4 player game played pretty fast once we got through a few turns. Two of the other guys were pretty seasoned euro players as well though so I think genre familiarity will push the pace. Met the designer too he was pretty cool. I will say the minis are 100 times better than the standees but obviously make the box massive. Don't think I can really travel with it.

>>96474033
i wish i had good game prototype ideas

>>96474238
I need to finish mine. Shame I had to get a job

>>96474238
That's okay. We'll put you in the lowest caste. I hope you have fun rolling all of our dice 1000 times before gameday to remove the ones that roll unfairly.

>>96474238
ngmi
>>96474257
you can sleep when you're dead

Are 18XX games actually worth getting MBA for?

>>96473894
Oh, I 100% agree. Especially because I also own FS and kind of want to sell it

>>96474257
never need to finish when you just move onto the next one

>>96474366
I found the best thing about 18xx games is they filter out undesirables from gaming groups

>>96474033
Sounds like hell tbqh
I have no idea what drives people who like to play prototype games

>>96474033
Find another way to have an orgy, you sick freak

>>96474274
Ok when do you want the prototype on your desk?

>>96474366
you don't need one of those for an 18xx, just a touch of streetwise smarts is all you need.

why would I design a board game when I can pay someone else to do that for me?

>>96474366
>18XX
I just wish they weren't so long. Even the "short" ones take like 3-4 hours when everyone knows what they're doing. I can't sell that to people that don't care about trains.
Maybe when Railways of the lost Atlas becomes available again...

>>96474517
>why would I design a board game
It's fun to design games. I love to think about different mechanisms , different themes that could connects with them. Thinking of new ways to do things.

>>96474527
https://boardgamegeek.com/market/product/3753099

>>96474517
I'll take 75k, health, dental, retirement and that "unlimited" PTO scheme that is all the rage these days.

>>96474562
>75k annual, full bennies, and unlimited PTO
is this a UBI joke?

>>96473840
A 4x pax game sounds amazing, I'd be glad to check that out. I'm working on my own shit but sadly either life gets in the way, or my autism runs out and I end up shelving the project. I wanted to make a 4X deck builder with area control and worker placement but shit happened, then I started working on a cold war pax game where you play as the actual secret service agencies, and after that was over I began work on a deck construction game with map cards that can be played versus and co op with support for multiplayer. Got the theme down for it and most of the mechanics, I always block up at actually filling the excel sheets for the card info, I hate that.

>>96474589
I think he's just referring to that becoming the defacto standard for entry level corp jobs in the post covid era
Although since then it has become 100k and wfh has been largely withdrawn
So while just about anyone can bank 100k+benefits, how many board game designers earn the same? It has to be a very small list. Some may have a big hit and earn a good amount over 1-2 years, but lets look at a 5-10 year average income. I'm thinking very, very few make more than the typical 100k wagie

>>96474632
i've been formalizing the rulebook, so far I've been present for every playtest of the game, but once I have a rulebook pdf I'll post it here. I wouldn't want to overemphasize the 4X side of it, you explore to make the map, and discover territory for the different factions. There's a bit of natural tension between the two genres gameplay because 4X games are about empire building and Pax games are about markets and asymmetrical influence. It's definitely more Pax than 4X, although your influence with the "shared factions" works in a way that they are effectively your units on your turn if you're allied with that faction.
As far as making a game goes, quit posting, and just do it. Your game is going to suck and you just need to make it suck less after each playtest (which is a lot easier at the beginning because it's going to suck a lot to start)

captcha:KNOKR

>>96474779
you can just do both though

>>96474527
>>96474556
RoTLA still takes 3 hours or so if you play a 4p short game. 4 hours if you do the long game.

The guy that's selling the Pocket Train Game is the designer. He has another short 3p 18xx called 18Svea that's getting republished Feb 2026.

>>96474779
>anyone can bank 100k+benefits
post instructions

Why would you really design boardgames, though? Not even about saleries or time, but...well, I imagine the process to be pretty fun at the beginning, seeing your idea take shape, cutting off the fat, seeing what works. But at some point in the process you'll have to fine tune it, and this seems to me like it would absolutely destroy all interest in the game; you either balance it by mathing it out or playtesting it into oblivion. Doesn't sound fun tbqh

>>96474916
>The guy [...] selling [...] is the designer.
I know.
>He has another [...] 18xx called 18Svea
I know.
>that's getting republished Feb 2026.
Did not know that actually. Neat.

>He has another short 3p
PTG supports 4p.

>>96474928
>why would you really do [anything ever]? at some point in the process you'll have to [thing that sounds boring or tedious]
yeah I too feel existential dread sometimes

>>96474928
If you can't appreciate honing your craft or design to its acme you have something profoundly wrong with you. Not everything in life even has to be fun to be satisfying. Really embarrassing stuff, anon.

>>96474928
You can only get so much appreciation out of listening to music. If you start to learn how to play the guitar, for instance, when you listen to songs with guitar, you'll listen with a whole new appreciation. If you begin to start learning how to write songs, it's as if you're discovering music for the first time again.

>>96474928
Because life isn't just about consuming things, it's rewarding to put effort into creating something from nothing.

>>96474928
You're not white

>>96474928
The secret is most designers outside of autistic retards like Sirlin don't fine tune the fun out of their games

some of the games you guys like feel like the tabletop equivalent of this

>>96477560
I have never seen a fingerless gloves meter in a board game but I think we should have one

I love last night on earth but y'all will never talk to me, about anything, ever. I love other games too, you know.. I just haven't played a lot of the classics that you guys have played. That doesn't make me a dweeb, thank you very much. I love games with minis. Wow, such angst, such consternation

>>96477560
That's pretty neat, which Lacerda game is that in the picture

>>96474045
>Heaven & Ale
It's hard to find, I think it's oop. A harsh game but feels like no other game. Try it if you get a chance. It was "hated" for having no theme but for a euro it's fine. The theme works with the mechanisms.

Do you like yor games to be more loose and forgiving or tight and harsh?

>>96477562
but you have seen a semen remaining meter? what's the game?

>>96477632
Tight, harsh, and open enough so that it doesn't devolve into obvious optimal strategies.

>>96477632
I'm fine with either as long as their short. I feel like I'm wasting my time if I play a loose long game and I know I'm wasting my time if I slip during a tight long game.

*they're

>>96477632
the longer the game the more forgiving it needs to be, or else you just sit there for 3 hours watching yourself lose a la monopoly

>>96477643
Plenty of smut games with that kind of meter out there

I like swingy games. When you don't know who is going to win until the end. People say they aren't fair or a waste of time. But I disagree. Swingy-ness should come from optimal play or fun/interesting counter play(this is where dice come in a lot). Nobody wants to play a game that they have no chance coming back from

>>96474928
Still better than accounting

they're using troons in board game ads now

>>96477861
Are you talking just about shorter games or longer, heavier?
Give some examples

>>96477905
>board game ads
wat?

This game is art. Perfect back and forth, with tension and decision points that speak to the soul

>>96477905
Average Molly House game group

>>96477910
?

>>96478004
wait until you play Hanamikoji

>>96478004
Battleline is better

>>96474918
Be responsible and show up for work
Actually do your work
Don't be a retard

That's seriously it. The only two people I ever fired had problems with 2/3 of those

>>96478081
schotten totten is now on bga btw
I always think I'm gonna lose and I end up winning. I've destroyed even asian players which are supposed to be le good kek

>>96478095
pls hire me

>>96474517
what does that mean?

Most board game designers do this stuff as a side gig, for the love of the game, the guy who made Cascadia is a software engineer, for example. Only people like Knizia do it full time, and some times they had wealth from other past endeavors.

>>96478106
Seconded.

>>96478095
that's what I do and i still make barely above minimal wage
i know lying on the internet can be fun but don't go full retard when doing that, okay?

>>96478334
Everyone can tell you half ass your work. Quit being lazy and suck up your pride, they pay you to be the person in an ad for your job, not you.

>>96478095
Yeah pretty sure that is IT money, entirely dissociated from reality

>>96479047
The Taco Bell around the corner from me is always looking for managers and workers, and the starting pay for a cashier is $20. I don't even live in a high COL area. If you are remotely competent you can make $100k easy.

>>96479138
We're talking about U.S. Dollars not Canadian Play Money.

>>96479170
I am talking about USD.

>>96478993
i told you not to go full retard, that wasn't a suggestion to go further beyond retarded and into schizo territory. learn when to quit lying on the internet, no, what you're doing is not "le epic trolling" either, it's just a waste of your own time.

>be me
>go to my local game store for a fun day of playing splotters
>always feel a little bad knowing that my peers are making 100k and I'm not
>we all drive 10+ year old cars and no one owns a home but still, feels bad man

shall i pnp glory to rome and then bgg can tell me what i thought of it...

been craving some MK but man does it take fookin forever to play

>>96479552
You're an asocial retard, just lie, pretend to be a "whoo hump day" person from a commercial and do your job and you will fail upward. You are just mad because you dress like a trash golem and got a degree in fine literature and think that makes you worthwhile. It doesn't.

I'm addicted to printing organizers for my games especially games I haven't even played

>>96479798
What the fuck anon, where did that come from

>>96479852
Same here. A 3D printer is a solution looking for a problem.

>>96479798
So did you get owned in another thread and come here to post this while still buttmad?
lmaoing at you

What expansions fixed the base game?
Is there an expansion that improved a mediocre/bad game and made it actually good/great?

>>96480165
Ventures expansion for SpaceCorp
>I heard you wanted corps in your corpo game so here's a box of nothing but corps for you to play as

>>96480172
>SpaceCorp
I thought the base game was already considered good.

>>96479617
>pnp
How do people pnp card games? Do you have them printed by a printing company or do it all at home with a home printer?

>>96480258
>How do people pnp card games? Do you have them printed by a printing company or do it all at home with a home printer?
Printing company usually works better unless you have a printer with very cheap ink.

>>96479798
>he keeps doubling down on the "no its u whos bad"
projection is something tools do, not people. if you wanna be people then stop being a tool.

>>96479617
Do it.

>>96480258
>How do people pnp card games? Do you have them printed by a printing company or do it all at home with a home printer?
I print the cards (front and back) on a sheet of paper. Then I cut them down to size and slip the front and back over a worthless magic the gathering card in a card sleeve.
>>96480375
I used to print my cards at work on the sly. But then I found out that my local library lets you print stuff for free and they have much nicer printers to boot.

>>96480258
>was already considered good.
People who like symmetry call it good. People who prefer asymmetry find it mediocre. Both agree the extra corps put the game into "Great" category

>>96464123
>>96464069
I DM'd the BGG member I mentioned >>96464036 along with 4 others who are also trading various games I am interested in if they'd be willing to sell their games instead.
Wish me luck anons.

>>96479852
Honestly based
Build for the future
It's in the nature of white men

>>96480165
Not really, even the best expansions only slightly improve quality, the best most can hope for is to add longevity, but then you run the risk of having so many modules you can't be bothered to take it off the shelf. Looking back on it, the best types of expansions are just new maps, which have their own rules tweaks, ala power grid, barrage, etc.

>>96480420
It doesn't matter if I'm good or bad, I've got plenty of money and free time because I'm not a loser.

>>96468129
keyflower is great

>>96478334
It's not a lie
Yes, the median income is much lower than 100k, but that's because a shit ton of people are flipper burgers, pushing shopping carts, and running registers.
If you exclude the unskilled poverty tier, a pretty high percentage are making 100+, and if you extend that to household income it's more like 150-200, even in middle cost of living areas
You do need some experience (or a very valuable degree) before that happens
We just hired someone, no degree and only 1 year of field experience, but halfway to his associates in cybersecurity (that's not his job though, he's just an IT grunt for now), 80k base, bonuses will take him to about 90k, full benefits, he's 23. Not a fancy sector, just a warehousing/distribution company in ohio.

>>96480711
These people aren't worth explaining this to, they just want to imagine they are being held back and not that they are human refuse.

>>96480711
US wages are insane. I'm a doctor and I'm a far shot from making 100k in austria.

This is likely the problem btw. People comparing local wages to the rest of the world.

>>96480785
Is that before or after tax? My numbers are pretax

>>96480799
My gp isn't even a doctor, their title is nurse practitioner, and it looks like their average salary pretax is about 140k. I don't really care what their title is, because for anything significant they refer you to a specialist, who is making 200-500k

>>96480799
After. But I wouldn't get there without additional premiums for night shifts, overtime etc (which aren't as highly taxed) anyway, and even then I'm probably barely above 100k. Which I'd assume places me in the top 1-2%, just for comparison. For further stats, an assistant doctor's basic salary is
(without premiums, which are what actually pays off) around 3700.

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>>96480914
NEW THREAD

>>96477910
Pretty common nowadays, I got one for Realm of Reckoning during its campaign. Just now got pic related while on youtube. Pretty often get card sleeves ones directly targeted at board gamers with "cheeto fingers" being a big point. There is money to be made and they know it.

>>96481193
forgot pic