Thread 96464014

Bless you! Edition

Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96450683

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question:
Do you buy hashut's version of the story?

>>96463710
god fucking damn it he's deleting his posts now

>>96464014 (OP)
yeah I believe it, he got beat up by a girl

>>96464007
>The story taken at face value only works if the other ancestor gods, grugni in particular, were uncharacteristically undwarf-like towards a dwarf who did nothing wrong (yet).
either somebody is lying about being the oldest - which is not dwarflike - or theyre just not respecting him being the oldest, which is also not dwarflike

>>96464030
>which is not dwarflike
it's very chaos-like tho

the whole text is so hilariously biased towards hashut, the father of darkness, the demonsmith, and god of tyranny, having done nothing wrong ever that you can only take it as genuine if you're retarded or if you're also role-playing as someone similarly biased as a chaos dwarf.

>>96464028
>Only a final gambit of Valaya – an act so base that none shall speak of it – saw his physical form sundered, even as she, too, passed from our people’s sight.
What could be something base and embarrassing to recall? Could she have hugged him? Is hashut an incel?

>>96463958
>this is clearly biased, but what is false and what's true?
no bias. Hashut just did nothing wrong ever, and anything he might have done wrong didn't matter, and it was probably your fault anyway

>>96464058
>the burning of demons to fuel my industry didn't happen
>it should have happened tho, they deserved it all and then some

>>96464055
He was jorking it

>>96464076
>Haschutschwitz and the Holochaost

>Hashut is an ascended god
>Hashut was always a god
good job GW

I'm shocked that they mentioned the Forge of Souls again after squatting Soul Grinders. Hashut and Vashtorr roommates confirmed?

>>96464103
Ur-Zorn is the rightful Hashutite homeland, it doesn't matter if the local orcs and cities around it get "relocated"

>>96464110
ancestor gods were ancestors before being gods
hashut ascended to a form of CHAOS godhood
that's a different type of divinity in warhammer

>>96464022
yea I can't see the post in the actual thread but only when viewing his profile.
What the fuck did he mean by this?
>>96464118
Ghur was promised to the chorfs 3000000 years ago

>>96464022
He's either taking the piss or this is the most rumors we have had dropped all together for aos.

>>96464247
>>96464248
Does he know what "rule out" means?
Is he another one of those leakers from the chinese printing facilities?

>>96464248
not sure what this means, that ossiarchs are getting ranged constructs + chariots or that tomb kings are getting new models.

also no more articles for today means no chance of roadmap? that kinda sucks if true.

>>96464270
>that ossiarchs are getting ranged constructs + chariots
no reason to mention ossiarchs otherwise, and despite the drastic differences they are still "aos version of tomb kings" in many ways

There’s no way Settra anon gets his wish

>>96464270
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/bse9qadn/the-future-of-age-of-sigmar-can-you-work-out-whats-coming-next/

some sort of mortek hero holding a smokey thing (boneshaper v3?) and a fyreslayer?

>>96464402
Ogor and nurgle, too. I think it’s an OBR grenade.

The fyre slayers are real?

>>96464427
Garbed very similarly to the Vulkyn Flameseekers.

>>96464427
So a Death character, a Fyreslayer a new Ogor and some Shadow Elf?

>>96464270
Simplest explanation is that it means OBR are getting new models but will NOT be the starter army next edition.

>>96464486
You see a pitted shield wielded by a green-armored individual with a FLY adorning it and you think Death? Is this what the kids are calling "ragebait"?

>>96464427
Fyreslayers and Ogors are obvious. Bottom right looks like OBR, that means top left is Chaos, probably Nurgle if I had to guess?

>>96464495
To be fair, deathfags are pretty fucking retarded.

>>96464518
Nah I think that if he were a Deathfag he would at least be able to recognize the OBR arm and not call it a shadow elf

Lion Rangers are coming back. I can feel it.

>>96464427
nurgle, fyreslayers, ogre and ossiarch?
fyreslayers being confirmed around is great to know
>>96464248
the ogre and nurgle stuff seemed legit but after this he's started to attentionwhore a bit too much, not sure I trust the later stuff unless confirmed by whitefang. Also does this post imply ossiarch are NOT the 5th edition starter? Are tomb kangs getting a refresh? good for them

>>96464427
You know, they could've given us this teaser on the 10 year anniversary alongside 4 shitty ai written short stories and that would've been more than enough

>>96464528
fanggots don't recognise ossiarchs as proper undead because they don't fall under their gothic horror shitshow

>>96464507
>probably Nurgle
>probably
>>96464495

>>96464552
I have zero interest in Nurgle anon, I don't pay attention to their models.

>>96464427
God i hope we remake all first gen fyreslayer infantry and add some cav or ranged options.
Also fuck GW for announcing Ogor refresh now, i still have a ton of them heh that i want to sell. Hoping they find their way to ToW so they dont loose all their value.

There's no way we're getting order of the fly right?

>>96464562
do you have also have zero interest in having eyes

>>96464427
Wasn't there an Order of the Fly of Nurgle knights out there
Could be that

>>96464427
I'm guessing Order of the Fly themed units for Maggotkin for the blood warriors/reavers but Nurgle, etc

>>96464493
hmmm, well with the new reveals I would think this would actually confirm either

>OBR gets some broken realms style release later this edition
>OBR gets a larger than normal wave
>OBR is the 5e starter, and the mortek pictured is a pity foot hero

If the four factions above are for the first 4 months of next year or whatever, then I would think only one of them would get a big box style release, and I'm leaning toward ogors.

Nurgle is supposedly getting a bigger than normal style release, but that might just be a foot hero + whatever comes out of a new warhammer quest game than a big box.

I mean whatever can happen, just think it's rare to see factions get more than one model released for a book, not be a big box, and it's not endless spells/terrain. Last time that happened I believe was nighthaunt?

>>96464582
leaker said "Skullcrushers but Nurgle" so maybe

>>96464582
>>96464586
>>96464591
Three posts... grandfather confirms it

>>96464427
>>96464591
Exactly what I was thinking
Lady cankerwall bros we're so back
Crazy two 24 hours for aos leaks damn

>>96464427
man what the fuck I just bought both ogor spearheads last week

>>96464495
I thought a Scarab on the Shield and the hole in the shield, along with the Verdigri,s match up with recent Soulblight paint schemes, but I could be wrong

slightly off topic, but i wish i liked Sig-Nurgle as much as i do 40k Nurgle. Maggotkin gets so close to scratching that "lumbering but deceptively capable warriors" itch for me, but I think I just prefer the gas masks, hoods, and zombies of Death Guard.

>Order of the Fly prominent in Realmgate Wars
>Pestigors prominent in Realmgate Wars
Where's that anon crying that they weren't mining nostalgia for 4th edition?

>>96464582
Nurgle has fly symbology regardless of the order of the fly.

>>96464596
Getting big releases back to back is not impossible. Even just this year we had Gitmob-Soulblight, and then IDK/KO next with both getting more than a single hero.

Also worth keeping in mind, that Dawnbringers kicked off last edition with 4 "Harbringer" Heroes for Fyreslayers, Nurgle, Gits, and FEC. FEC got their big wave in Dawnbringers, Gits got Trugg and later Gitmob, but Fyreslayers and Nurgle have so far not gotten expanded yet.

>>96464624
You are wrong

>ogre refresh
>fyreslayer refresh
>order of the fucking fly
Two days of pure aos hopium holy shit

>Anglo Ogors are real
lmao

>>96464678
now if we got blacktalon's second season completed it would be one of the best weeks this edition.

>>96464652
Is it a bad thing to recognize older things that people like after spending a fair bit of time focusing on newer things

WHERE ARE KHUL AND VANDUS

>>96464427
They live!

>>96464695
one is ascended, the other insane.

>>96464675
lol

>>96464615
Ogors have gotten almost nothing in a decade, if anything you should be hyped that the army you just started just got new stuff teased and it's a ways out so you can just relax and work on your dudes, and more than likely by the time you finish them you'll have new stuff to be hyped for

>>96464695
Campaign book at the end of the edition.

>>96464427
for those that are worried that fyreslayers won't still be showing a bunch of skin

>>96464716
I think the teaser refers to next quarter, we're due a roadmap and sep-oct get releases before the Christmas shutdown

>>96464733
that's a girthy cock now, I could have mistaken it for a leg!

>>96464753
4 supposedly big waves in the next quarter is just not possible

the last roadmap covered half a year, this is most likely also half a year

>>96464753
Yeah, I take this one as a hype teaser as opposed to a hard roadmap.(And all of them are actually quite hype, none of these armies have been meaningfully expanded since their OG battletomes)

The real roadmap will give us the actual release order including probably some filler releases. We've got 12 battletomes left to cover for 4E so they're going to be banging them out next year regardless.

>>96464427
>Fyreslayers will be turn into Vulkyn Flameseekers.
Ha, i knew it.
Helsmiths of Hashut, and new models for Nurgle, Fyreslayers and Ogors. What a time to be alive.

>>96464772
>>96464783
Nurgle was supposedly a christmas thing, but yeah I see this teaser basically stretching to the end of the edition honestly

But... what about cities

>>96464876
You’ll be getting your arch knights

>>96464876
>Arch Knights, Warrior Priest, new Marshall character (male) who hates DoK

>>96464797
>stretching to the end of the edition honestly
that's 2 years away still, gw has never shown stuff so far in advance.

>>96464876
We got rumors for them too and another indication that the cogfort is real

>>96464900
Also sisters of sigmar

>>96464927
Haven't they? You're probably right but I remember waiting ages for something

>>96464947
got a screenshot of that?

>>96464427
plzbewarhammerquestplzbewarhammerquest

>>96464927
Yeah, that's too far. I think it's just spotlighting the most hype releases over the next six months or so.

Keep in mind they chose to just show one image for every GA even though like 80% of remaining battletomes are either Order or Chaos.

>>96464976
>plump women wearing silly iron hats
was in the CoS post so surely?

>>96464980
That image is for specifically "What's coming to AoS" so none of these models are for WHQ or some other sidegame. That doesn't mean we aren't getting WHQ though.

>>96464772
>coming soon

>>96464976
I don't have one, dude was posting and then deleting all day yesterday, presumably so GW was less on his ass about it.

>>96464987
that was about chaos dwarfs, wasn't it?

>>96464995
Someone post that screenshot from the January preview were they said IDK was coming, you know, fairly soon.

>>96464990
Technically WHQ is coming to AOS since it'll probably have playable stuff but I see your point.

Fuck, I might wind up trading in one of my Death dudes to get into Nurgle... (Or ogors if they get heavy ice theming)

>>96465007
Obviously they were delayed to fit in the next fiscal year

>>96464753
I can't see us getting 4 aos faction releases with 3 months left before christmas season unless 2 of those releases are paired together in a battle box and consist of only a pity character and none of the 4 things showed off really pair off against each other super well. I guess there's no reason why fyreslayers couldn't have a grudge with OBR but it just seems like a lot of aos stuff in a pretty short time

>>96465024
Please fucking god don't just give OBR another foot wizard

>>96465007
>6 months for 2 heroes and a manifestation

>>96465024
AoS has nothing except Chorfs for three months?

>>96464427
>OBR holding one of their little soul casks
It’s gonna be another fucking support wizard isn’t it

>>96465041
Maybe another base thing like Katakros but for Arkhan...?

>>96465033
>rumor: 4 units!

>>96465024
I think within 6-8 months after Chorfs is a reasonable expectation for GW to put out four largish faction updates and still consider it "soon"

I also don't assume these are literally the next four releases though, there's probably some pity hero releases they are skipping over to highlight the cooler ones.

>>96465041
First thing that comes to mind is the mortek hero from the underworlds band

>>96465036
the blessed timeline

>>96465032
>>96465047
It reminds me strongly of the soul mason

>>96465036
Chorf army box will go up for pre-order within the next two weeks. Full release about a month later, so Mid-late Oct. Battleforce releases December. At best you could try to squeeze in one more tome Nov or Dec and probably not a large one.

>>96465041
On foot of course, as a mounted one might be useful.

>>96465051
>>96465079
I'm thinking one more pity hero tome between chorfs and christmas, maybe mid november

>>96465074
I mean I like the Soul Mason and all but holy shit OBR does not need another wizard

>>96465036
that's how it is for all their games I believe? like october is the latest month, november is battleforce and december is nothing.

>>96465104
rules don't really matter at this point, it's going to be shit. Just hope it's a cool concept and maybe they get better at writing fun rules in 5e.

>>96465041
Looks more like a grenade

>>96465133
>rules don't really matter at this point, it's going to be shit. Just hope it's a cool concept and maybe they get better at writing fun rules in 5e.

:( I mean the FEC book came out really good!

>>96465041
It won't stop until OBR have as many Mortisans as Necrons do Crypteks

>>96465145
You say that as if crypteks weren't the coolest things in the necrons range and lore.

I wonder if the Harbinger stays? He fits alongside Blightkings so I can't imagine how a Blightking refresh would look except more or the same but less options and more dynamism

>>96465138
getting a book like fec is kind of a russian roulette, and even then it's still got a lot of 4e-isms I'm not a fan of (3+ rolls, pointless AoRs, dry battle formations).

The soggy update was so bad for bonereapers too, like why the fuck am I jumping through 4+ hoops to heal my skeleton men, and they somehow created two even worse scrolls.

>have an entire edition set in ghur
>rite of life earthquake unleashes an ancient evil
>its literal who kragnos
>centaur monster man
>wears armor that doesnt look like anything that came before or after
>does nothing
>doesnt fit the design of his own grand alliance
>feels totally shoehorned in the lore and game
>years later we find out Hashuts realm was ghur
>bull/centaur aesthetics
>Hashut was imprisoned deep within the realm
>released by a big earthquake from the skavendoom
theres no way this is all just a big coincidence
was kragnos just a prototype hashut?

>>96465265
I wonder if the blight king refresh is part of the WHQ stuff, maybe making them more armored? Go back to the more classic Warhammer Nurgly bits.

>>96465329
Just have hope, maybe the coin toss will turn out good for OBR.

>>96465334
>>Hashut was imprisoned deep within the realm
>>released by a big earthquake from the skavendoom
no?

>>96465334
he is somewhat similar to this teaser

>>96465058
Deltatroons are so retarded my head hurts.
There is no joke here, because the faggots drew the 2nd part wrong and removed the punchline from the scene

Been a wild couple days for AoS, damn.

Though in fairness, the first year after a new edition is always the low-point. Not as many releases, shitty battletomes that were written before the edition even released, etc. Year 2-3 is where all the juice happens.

>>96465360
not really

>>96465367
>stormcast cursed to forever have first battletome that always sucks after the first round of power creep

>>96464427
Feast of Bones box sequel Banquet of Marrow confirmed (and I'm here for it)

>>96464427
motherfucking Year of the Dwarf, baby!

>>96464622
Quick rundown ?

>No rumour of a plaguebearers refresh
fuck me

>>96465329
The Boneshaper is actually better.
The nu mortek is laughably shit.
And yeah no hope for 4th but I want new UNITS (NOT FUCKING HEROES ONLY) for OBR.

>>96464427
>Ogre refresh
>Monopose garbage with aosified poses
I wonder if firebelly will be removed or get a new model

>>96465458
Yeah .... Ogres are the most kit bash friendly AOS (or WHFB) army, possibly ever, and there is zero chance that continues with a range refresh

>>96465425
We love some dwarf shenanigans.

>>96465462
Tbf that's because all their torsos are the exact same with just a different bits and arms. I don't hate the idea of a refresh because it can be done right.

Multiple weapon options and alternative bits are a possibility (Barrow guard are decent, though nowhere near the options of the old shit) and it's pretty easy to repose or fuck with arms. But I am sad it'll probably be missing all the options.

>>96465436
People made fun of that model because it looks like someone using the mirror command on half of a t-pose dwarf in the CAD program, even his head crest got mirrored.

>>96465462
All ogres need is a hero model refresh and better rules to get rid of gluttons/stonehorn spam
All of the plastic infantry kits are just fine.

>>96465490
>All ogres need is a hero model refresh
no

>All of the plastic infantry kits are just fine.
maybe if youve never seen a model produced after 2015

>>96465490
>All of the plastic infantry kits are just fine.
You mean that grotesque beardy toddlers?

>>96465490
I feel like the old models could use some love compared to what has come out since.

>>96465220
No I agree

>>96465347
I would say I'm more interested in the OBR tome if it becomes more complex or has depth. Getting rid of the auras would be nice it doesn't really make sense with an elite army and with the fluff.

The army right now is too smooth brained, now that Khorne left a vaccuum open for a techy combat army I want OBR to inherit it as it should. Death books (until this edition) have always had more unique rules or skewed toward that direction.

Ossiarchs are always talked about in the lore as being insanely coordinated and pulling off military ploys other armies are incapable of doing. Mortek purposefully taking a dive so kavalos could charge over them was the best part of end of enlightment.

>>96465334
No. Kruleboyz came out only slightly after Kragnos, including Hobgrot Slittaz, who feature angular armour and weapons that are pretty in-line with Helsmiths of Hashut aesthetics.

>>96465517
>>96465537
I don't trust gw to do a good refresh

>>96465484
> It can be done right
It won't be, GW does not want you to change their le epic poses for make your own dudes.
>>96465490
The finished product is fine but there is so much waste on the sprue (like open unused space) and the mold lines aren't good. I will miss the arms and heads that can be freely swapped around
>>96465517
Shit taste
>>96465537
I mean you are comparing a man-eater (an elite unit) to a basic glutton/bull that's not every fair. Frankly the old man eaters blow the plastic shit pirate out of the water but they are all resin

>>96465597
>I mean you are comparing a man-eater (an elite unit) to a basic glutton/bull that's not every fair. Frankly the old man eaters blow the plastic shit pirate out of the water but they are all resin

To be fair, there hasn't been any new gluton or bull in ages, but I understand your fear of GW fucking up a rework. But also things not designed around square bases would be pretty nice, but I can see why you don't want them to fuck with the army. Now the question is, would you rather GW never touches any of the old stuff and just makes new stuff assuming any rework they do is gonna be shit?

>>96465592
they'll just be white Ogors instead of Mongolian, like the Bloodpelt or Hrothgorn

>>96465650
Hrothgorn is so fucking cool

>unironically replacing blightkings
I will be a mad fucking lad the day it happens.

>>96464427
Fyrselayer cavalry coming

>>96465774
I'm not 100% on them replacing them, I'd make a bet it's more likely they'll get an alternate kit with WHQ, like how there was some alternate sculpts for normal units in both.

anyone have an updated rumour engine compilation

>>96465821
Sorry, anon. He’s on foot. That’s some basing material just along the bottom of the image.

>>96465858
No but I have this https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/unsolved-rumour-engines.html

>>96465862
Never mind. I’m dumb. Carry on.

this wasnt the new KO unit?

>>96465774
Yup, but I have 30 already so I'm just sad for others. presuming it's a worse kit

>>96465896
The fucked up thing is I don't think Nurgle has had a bad release, even if blight kings get updated or replaced I can't imagine the kit wouldn't be fantastic. (I should buy a second blight king kit though.)

>>96465438
They're still perfectly usable honestly.

>>96465940
I hate that I wanna start a nurgle army... Are they super elite and only need a few dudes?

>>96465884
No, the trident was. That image is probably 40k stuff

>>96465438
40keks aren't beaten down enough yet to have all the demons removed from their game. Give it 2 more editions

>>96465968
They can be. The mortal side is far more elite and has a load of expensive but powerful/tough units while the daemon side can be far more swarmy and tends to have much larger numbers on the tables.

>>96465987
Good to know, I'll hold off for now... IF they're getting a big release and possible split stuff with a possible Warhammer quest box I might as well wait for that.

>>96465968
If you do anything you should wait, the leaks mentioned blightking refreshes, fucking blightkings, if theyre not safe, nothing is.
I would wait until we have seen what comes for them this edition.

>>96466008
I’m planning an elite armored Nurgle army and am holding off until I see what’s coming, but I might still get a box of current blightkings for conversion bits

>>96466078
Tbh I got some built blight kings and the bits and those have been helping with dozens of kitbashes I've done. I do miss the old Warhammer fantasy style of giving you 2 million options. I wanna say we get that sometimes anything off the top of my head is that customizable.

>>96465334
no, kragnos was a repurposed beasts of chaos model, part of a cancelled wave that got its minis split up across other armies after the aos team found out they were losing beasts

>>96466151
The guy who designed kragnos says this isn't the case

>>96466112
>>96466101
Hashut is the antithesis of the Great Horned Rat? Makes no sense, bruv.

>>96466160
It goes higher up than I thought

>>96466170
They're trying to retroactively hammer the minor chaos gods into that wheel they made for Horus Heresy a while back, which is how you're getting nonsense like "Hashut's tyranny is the antithesis of the GHR" since y'know the skaven are famously not tyrannical in the slightest

The new Hashut story makes no sense considering his origins in the World-That-Was
What is GW doing?

>Hashut gained divinity from the Forge of Souls
And where was Vashtorr in all of this?

>refresh Blightkings but not Plaguemonks
I'm fuming

>>96466188
Disappointed they didn't namedrop "Gnawhame" or "Lair of the Thirteenth Lord" as a reference to this classic map

>>96466160
>The guy who designed kragnos says this isn't the case

because he would literally be breaking NDA and get sued if he said otherwise

>>96466199
Wow what a cool emblem with chains and spikes and horns I hope the chaos duardin models take after it

>>96466235
Patience. They could be coming still. They could be in Mosscairn!

>>96466186
Could be a stretch but Hashut probably represents a long-standing tyranny, a one made of unshakable foundations and immovable leaders (they LITERALLY become immovable) while the GHR represents an ever shifting tyranny. The slave of yesterday may be the master of today may be a corpse tomorrow. Their war machines kinda also represent that. Chorfs have sturdy and reliable machines while Skaven have nukes on wheels

>>96466266
you are the only person here that i saw saying "i like the ugly warcraft horned-train-dwarf icon", anon. Such strange and unique creature you are. I will assume its sarcasm.

>>96466307
No I'm genuinely mad that HoH turned out to not look much like a chaos army or even all that industrial or infernal (outside of the ugliest daemon engine since the heldrake)

>>96466218
>And where was Vashtorr in all of this?
Doesn't exist in AoS.

>>96466355
WD issue 514 says that they share the same Warp.

>>96466396
Lol show me that, I refuse to believe that.

>>96466417
Here is the whole thing.

>>96466463
Opps.
Switched up page 3 and 4

>>96466463
This literally says they are not the same setting lmfao you dumb fuck. "Not overlapping" "adjacent to the same concepts" "neighbours-but-one"
How can you be so fucking stupid?

>>96466151
that's still retarded no matter how many times you try to say it, the ogroid face comes from fucking silver tower

>>96466300
I can see it, organized chaos vs pure complete chaos. You got your saw like murder traps vs methed out psychos roaming the streets with knives!

>>96466396
I think they mean The Warp and the Chaos Gods work the same in both (and the main Chaos Gods are copies, not this Khorne is X and this Khorne is Y), but they are not connected in any way (dimension, time line, worlds, same chaos gods (Hashut and Horned Rat and Vashtor), etc).

Sharing the Warp at the same time between the 2 dimensions and timeline is retard. Its what Blizzard did in Warlords of Draenor with the demons and Twisting Nether and then deleted it because it was super dumb

>>96466151
Faggot stop posting this meme, nobody buys your delusions

>>96466501
>I think they mean The Warp and the Chaos Gods work the same in both (and the main Chaos Gods are copies, not this Khorne is X and this Khorne is Y), but they are not connected in any way (dimension, time line, worlds, same chaos gods (Hashut and Horned Rat and Vashtor), etc).
This is clearly what they mean, yes.

>>96466481
NTG but can you explain how chaos champions in Fantasy used to show up with visibly mechanical armour and chainfists on occasion
Or how Kweethul showed up briefly in a 30k book
Or how Skaven discovered an Eldar radio and shot it to bits
Or the existence of the Soul Grinder across nearly every game

>>96466501
this map from Fantasy >>96466241 literally has the Eye of Terror in it

>>96466481
That's not what it says. You left out something which makes me wonder about you "neighbours-but-one via the Realm of Chaos"
And even says it's possible for them to meet each other.

>>96466522
Dumb old game being dumb and fun.
Easter egg
Easter egg
Reusing daemons models to save money and gain more profits for less effort.

Retard.

>>96466540
>Anonymous 09/03/25(Wed)20:54:37 No.964
In some fucked up crazy version of the setting, yes. Not in the legit version.

>>96466501
No. GW confirmed it. They are one and the same

>>96466543
And those "Easter eggs" don't count because...?
Oh also I forgot to mention a Grey Knight (possibly Draigo) showing up during the End Times in one of the books

>>96466553
No. Via the Realm of Chaos, as the text says. The Realm of Chaos connects all warhammer settings See >>96466559

>>96466186
No, no, the horus heresy wheel pitched vashtorr/hashut domain as diametrically opposite to morghur's

the enmity between rat and shit has probably to do with the fact they're the only new guys around
it's also somewhat parallel to the one between vashtorr and belakor

but gods can have multiple nemesis, think about khorne, everyone knows his main hate-crush is slaanesh, but noone looks at the antimagic man and says he's on good terms with the magic man

I have an autistic headcanon trying to piece together the inconsistencies between these things, the realms, and the winds
the conclusion is that the inconsistencies are the chaos that the old ones saw and wanted to fix, and their great plan is about rearranging the nature of magic, the relations of the spheres, and the domains of the gods until everything is in order, while chaos is working to warp everything into their own nonsensical rivalries
by my last schizoautistic drawings, the war is currently happening at a moment where chaos has in disarray 4 points of the cosmic die

I kinda think 40k and AoS being connected via the warp is a little bit cringe.

>>96466598
>No, no, the horus heresy wheel pitched vashtorr/hashut domain as diametrically opposite to morghur's
Oh I misremembered, apologies

>>96466565
Don't forget the Liber Chaotica, which was re-released with new art. It has 40K characters like Lucius, Magnus appearing in WHFB.
The main narrator of the book is a WHFB guy documenting the history of 40K from the War in Heaven to the 13th Black Crusade.

>>96466603
I like it a lot but I want the crossovers to be extremely rare and extremely minor, like "woah what's this weird gun I found that shoots magic beams"

>>96466608
why are 7/8 of the symbols arrows I feel like the majority of people would fuck up and do the wrong arrow and mix up their fire magic with metal magic

>>96466627
I always assumed it was to tie them to the star of chaos and its eight arrows

>>96466603
By my experience, the people who say they don't like it have issues where they think the connection devalues the importance of whatever part of the setting they like by reaching conclusions like
>well those guys then can come up at any time and wipe the floor
>well that means whatever happens on this side is unimportant
but neither of these is true

Wait, people are taken something that happened in WHF 20 years ago (surely like a fun gag, like Diablo things inside Warcraft games) still like canon?
People please. Forget half of the things that happened 15 or more years ago. Its all retconnected and rewritten.

>>96466654
for me it's like... the chaos gods of 40k and AoS feel vastly different and to say they're the same dudes in both worlds kinda feels off.

>>96466665
GW haven't even cemented AoS canon yet after ten years, of course it's irrelevant

>>96466627
because they're symbols for winds, if there's one fundamental description of a wind, is movement, so they're all arrows

but 4 of them are actually also circles and the division between arrows and circles matches which winds go in the yin half and which winds are their opposite and go in the yang side (with chamon and aqshy being atypical because the former looks like a circle but is actually an arrow, while the latter looks like an arrow but is actually a circle)
most winds also symbolise other stuff
>azyr, the twin tailed comet
>ulgu, the sword of judgement
>shyish, the scythe of the reaper
>aqshy, the key
>hysh, the wind that rises above the wheel

One day GW will hire a person who is admiring other stuff then Nurgle... One day...
Only Nurgle is done with passion and love.

>>96464427
This is some limp dick reveal, reading it implies to me its one new hero for each grand alliance. So tired of this format.

>>96466685
If you’re looking at them like characters then yeah it’s odd, as gods? It kind of makes some sense.

>>96466721
Khorne has his moments too. Slaanesh and Tzeentch on the other hand...

>>96466685
In what way, they personalities are more or less the same, 40k jsut focuses on homosexual family drama with the gods being only side characters

>>96466685
But you most probably have absolutely no problem accepting that a certain god within the same universe ends up being seen in vastly different ways

it's the same deal with the perception between the two settings, neither is the more correct one

Are Flamekeepers safe to purchase?
Do you think Magmadroths are getting refreshed?

>>96466603
Back in Rogue Trader days, fantasy and 40k shared so many rules, in the roleplaying section DM had an option to teleport players one setting to another as a joke
A while back, I also heard a joke theory how entire 40k universe was encapsulated within a crystal ball of some wizard from fantasy

>>96466210
>>96466221
>>96466229
>>96466254
Is this from the newest WD? I see it is 4/5 so I am curious where to start at in WD.

>>96466704
No GW canon is cemented. They retcon it all the time. AoS. Fantasy. 40k. Horus Heresy.

It is possible to lure an apoplectic retard in /aosg/ by saying
>the Realm of Chaos is the Warp and is the same thing in every GW settings
He will then lash out relentlessly for hours on end. I've seen it many times. His arguments are usually
>the official fluff doesn't count
>it's easter eggs so desn't count
>it's white dwarf so not official
>it's old fluff so not official
>it cannot work
(last one show he just doesn't understand paradoxical Chaos). Anyway, always great banter

>>96466796
start at issue 1

>>96466736
Tbf the tzeentch and slaanesh characters are great. Syleske, the infernal enrapturess, the changeling, the curseling are all sick af

>>96466874
I still think syllesske are pathetic as a demon prince and the only reason they were said to be was to convince 40k to buy them too

>>96466820
And that's a good thing.

>new unreleased hachette magazine features Blightkings, discontinued spearheads, etc
What did they mean by this

>>96466889
I think they're pretty cool. I like the scars, how big he is and that he comes with his personal fleshflight. It's cool having him be one of the few aos characters in a meaningful relationship and that he fights with her at his side

>>96466941
Oh yeah, conceptually he's great

It's just that he doesn't look like a proper demon prince, more like an exalted champion

>>96466736
Slaanesh has had some great sculpts.
Tzeentch too but his problem is that all his battleline units suck.

>Top left
Nurgle mortal cultist equivalent
>Top right
Fyreslayers hero on foot, no new units allowed
>>Bottom left
New ogre ironguts
>Bottom right
New army, mortals of shyish ala Cult Of Nagash

>>96467281
That's a bonereaper you dumbo.

>>96466987
I prefer the idea that all daemon princes are weird and unique. That's always been the fluff for them

>>96464427
>>96467281
Do you think we value your opinion so much that you needed to post this again for us just with dumber predictions

>>96467281
top left:
>Anvilgard Resistance leader
top right:
>Gotrek
bottom left:
>Ironjawz leadbelchers
bottom right:
>silent ones

>>96467281
>Fyreslayers hero on foot, no new units allowed

Why do you want to have enemies? Why say things that make people angry?

>>96467281
>Top Left
Halfling griddle knights
>Top Right
A crotch
>Bottom Left
One boob of a lady ogor.
>Bottom Right
Steve from long island

>>96467324
but he's not weird

>>96467324
He is just a tall dude with a demonic girlfriend.

>>96467476
I wasn't claiming you were samefagging you retard, I was claiming we didn't need you to spam the same pic we already had from this morning just to post your retarded opinion.

>>96467500
>>96467509
So he's nothing like any of the other daemon princes, but that isn't weird? Seems like a pretty weird daemon prince to me imo

>>96465032
They should give Deathrattle a wizard instead

>>96465592
Gw follows a formula. The quality of the refresh is inversely proportional to how much (you) like the faction. If it's your faction it'll be shit; if you hate them you know damn well it'll be the best damn refresh they've ever put out.

>>96466417
It's always been the same warp. It's why a chainsword appeared in the far north in Fantasy and the Skaven had a phone call with an Eldar.

>>96467655
I need to know where to read the stories of both of these incidents; chainsword in the north sounds badass, and the Skaven/Eldar call sounds hilarious

>>96466941
Their relationship is cute

>>96467663
Temple of the Serpent - C.L Werner
The chainsword I think is in an old Chaos codex.

>>96467677
Thank you sir

>>96467663
the skaven thing is during the end times, they are sacking one lizardmen city and they happen on their storages of old one tech, they play with random dials they find on one machine until they accidentally hit some combination and a melodious voice "like an elf but speaking an alien language" speaks through the machine, they promptly pick up their pistols and shoot the machine to bits.

chainswords and bolters and stuff have been demonic gifts (generally from khorne) for fantasy warriors in realm of chaos, and one makes a cameo in total war

during the shadow over albion campaign in 6th edition there were various artifacts of the old ones that people could use as magic items that were quite obviously just a power sword, a power fist and some other thing, down to the exact same game rules

>>96467663
Chainsword bit is from Liber Chaotica: Khorne

>>96464116

They're clearly the same dude.

>>96467729
Now I want to magnetize an alt head for my Vashtorr that has a mechatendril beard

>>96467729
Nah, that might have been the case if hashut wasn't tied to the dwarfs alone and if they hadn't made an article where they underline that hashut is different from other chaos gods or vashtorr because he's an ascended god and not an elemental/conceptual entity

as it stands they're separate and even unaffiliated entities that are sorta racing for the same spot of the pantheon, possibly without even being aware of the other

>Ogor refresh making them all Hyperborean chads instead of Mongol
>Shortstack Valaya dwarfs coming to Fyreslayers
>Devoted finally becoming a thing
>New Warhammer Quest based around Nurgle

I think this may be enough to bring me back to AoS bros until I play a game and remember how shit 4th edition is

>>96467841
>>Ogor refresh making them all Hyperborean chads instead of Mongol
>implying

Whew that's a lot of leaks
So with fyreslayers confirmed not dead how do you guys think they'll handle them? I've seen people talk about a kind of rebrand connected to valaya and the dispossessed? Where does that come from and how reliable is it?
Either way I'm excited for more vulkyn-esque designs.

>>96468293
>I've seen people talk about a kind of rebrand connected to valaya and the dispossessed? Where does that come from and how reliable is it?
Nothing, literally just GW not using Valaya for anything yet, and them possibly wanting to do something with Dispossesed

>>96468345
To be fair valaya has a very prominent role in the story they released earlier, seemingly the one responsible for putting hashut in the wage cage

What do (you) want in a Warcry/Underworlds warband for your faction of choice? Any kind of theme or unit focus that you wish GW would do?
I swear GW puts their best on the small warband designs because most of them are more exciting than regular kits.
>pic related
I don't think I could have made a better one for myself if I tried

>>96468293
>Where does that come from and how reliable is it?
pure speculation and not at all.

People have theories based on the existing lore. I would say the three most popular are;

We know Grombrindal wants to bring the different Duardin together, and it's pretty damn likely that the Dispossessed are getting removed from Cities. So some people think GW will say that a lot of the Dispossessed joined up with the Magmaholds and Fyreslayers will get new units and characters with designs a little closer to classic Warhammer Dwarfs.

We know that Fyreslayers have started having more daughters than usual, it's been canon for ages that the women raise the Magmadroths, and the latest model Fyrelayers got had the first Fyreslayer women in it. So some people think that Fyreslayers will get a Valayaish expansion with a cavalry unit of ladies on teen Magmadroths and so on.

We know that the basic core infantry kit for Fyreslayers fucking sucks ass and is enough to turn people off the faction all by itself, and people who can get past that then face that the army has literally three fucking kits. So they think Fyreslayers will get a refresh/expansion that replaces the Berzerker kit and adds a couple more units, but doesn't mess with the overall aesthetic or expand the design space that much.

Those are all reasonable, they aren't mutually exclusive, and they are all completely made up out of people's brains. This teaser is the first actual solid information we have, and all we can learn from it is that Fyreslayers are getting at least one new kit, and it seems to draw more from the slightly tweaked design language of the Vulkyn Flameseekers than it does from the original 1st edition launch stuff. But is otherwise normal Fyreslayer.

>>96467841
>Ogor refresh making them all Hyperborean chads instead of Mongol
I do think it crazy how Sigmar (ie the god of white people/Fantasy Europe) gets the universe remade in his image and they just got away with that.

>>96468410
I don't play Underworlds so for me they're mainly a source of alternate sculpts for characters. As such, I'd like a Vongrim-themed KO band that includes an Admiral that looks more Vongrimy.

An alternate Navigator sculpt would be nice too, the one we've got has a silly head

>>96468410
I'd like it dwarves got some boxers or something, khadrons, cities, slayer, it doesn't matter.
Also BL should maybe tie some named hero's in underworlds to pump out.

Anyone else worry that the greater amount of leaks may lead to gw putting less effort/time/money into their reveal articles and reveal events going forward?

>>96468550
I’ve got bigger things to worry about, like cranking my hog.

>>96468550
They put less time/effort/money into reveals without leaks anyway. Not much different. I miss more narrative themed reveals, bit of lore or narration, like OBR and GSG.

>>96468410
Would love a spiderfang warcry warband similar to pic related. Something like 10 guys on foot made to be an infantry kit for aos, and three giant spiders without riders.

>>96468410
Koatl's claw seraphon
Basically the big toad got fucked by pestilens and is on his deathbed, saurus and co under his command have reverted to a more state. Since new seraphon went hard into the magitech, I think it'd be a neat way to explore some of the more primal mesoamerican stuff like you see with saurus guard

>>96468550
Couldnt care less, i sleep through them and get my info here anyway

>>96463958
Daddy Hashy did nothing wrong.

>>96468564
That's what I'm saying tho, it's already being reduced noticeably. I'm kind of worried they might kill higher effort reveals all together and every event will just be the Sunday preview we get every week but with more stuff

>>96464110
This works better in context of how warhammer lore used to be written, where multiple conflicting stories and missing details made it seem like you were reading half-disintegrated works recovered from a tomb older than the world itself instead of the world of warcraft style where it's just like "and then sigmar fucked your mom, who was so fat she blotted out the sun, and so that was the great eclipse"

So all things considered is safe to assume Fyreslayers will survive and keep being their own non-soup thing?

>>96468460
Kinda sucks that some warbands that you could use in AoS got sent to legends because of ?????

I think 2 of my fav. sculpt warbands got squatted but can still play them in the store there, unless its tournament because the sweats start pointing out the minis

>>96468608
Indeed, my fiery bearded friend. The fire still burning.

>>96468614
GW has to arbitrarily discontinue model ranges that came out less than 5 years ago because ???
Maybe they can't be fucked to have more than a certain number of kits in production. Doesn't seem to affect 40k the slightest bit though.

>dwarfs allowed to have two flavors
>orruks have to share their book with weird sidekicks and savages died
>goblinos got souped with mongolian sun chasers
really weird, james workshop.

>>96468588
And what I'm saying is that even without stuff having leaked the reveals are much lower effort than they used to be. We only had text descriptions of HoH and this is what we got for them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_fNnjxk7mY
Which, admittedly is a bit higher effort than other recent reveals, but it's still panning shots of models with no narration or art.

>>96468656
It's a bit weird how they decide everything. Ironjawz seem to be more popular than slayers and kharadron, yet those two got their own tomes while ironjawz ended up souped together. Maybe it's because the other parts of rhe book (splitterz and krule) couldn't stand on their own?

>>96468736
I'm guessing the part that the non-IJ can't stand alone. But also that thematically the different flavors of orks would work together but the different flavors of Dwarfs and Elfs would not. Just as there's no chance for LRL and IDK to suddenly be best friends, there's no chance that KO and FS will suddenly make amends and hang out.

>>96468656
The GSG part is the weirdest to me, really GW thinks Gitmob are not enough or lack the fanbase to become their own book? I think Gitz are much more popular than all Dawi flavors combined

>>96468756
>I think gitz are much more popular than all dwarf factions combined
The cave shroom addicts are, gitmob not so much.

>>96468736
>>96468656
the problem with orruks is that some time ago, they billed big waaaagh as its own army, i beleive the first version of this was sometime in 1st or early 2nd edition. they cannot divorce the orruks without dismantling big waaagh and telling anyone whos army consists of big waaaagh to eat shit. also bonesplitters were only psuedo squatted, and live on refreshed as a sub element within ironjawz with its weirdbrute wrekkaz and ragerz, and probably more to come in the future with the weird berserker element. the outright cavemen bonesplitterz army was phenomenally unpopular, even compared to other poorly supported microfactions.

as for the wolfs, i very much think gitmob were supposed to replace spiderfang as the poison and fast skirmishy cavalry element of the army lead by mounted shamans. they have almost 100% role overlap with spiderfang. why else would the wolfs have toxic venom? but somewhere along the way someone outside of that development decision made a separate choice to keep spiderfang around, and so now we have 2 completely redundant rosters in the same army.

>>96468844
I mean it's not like gw hasn't told people to eat shit and split up a faction before, see legions of nagash. I do agree with the part about wolf riders being supposed to replace spiderclan. The venom fangs thing is really weird to include otherwise.

>>96468410
I would like them to reprint that Warband. That or a court of regular vampires (male and female) that can be proxied as Lords easy

>>96468930
anon I dont know what to tell you but...they're doing that. and thats already been done.

>>96468930
They just did, they done 4-pack reprints of various units bundled together.

>>96468410
Warcry warband of a few Moulder packmasters with some horrible creatures (wolf rats + weirder abominations) would be awesome

>>96468938
>>96468941
NTA but when is this fucking box coming out already?

>>96468930
Crimson Court which is currently available in a 4 pack and Velmorn is coming back in like a month or something

>>96469058
sometime after smiths get their second wave.

Was anyone at adepticon? How was the aos presence there?

>>96468410
Chosen of Sotek would be a great warband. Bring back Not!Tehenhauin or just bring him back in general since it was always implied that he was either immortal or could reincarnate with a kickass new model, Red Crested Skink with a great weapon, and a 2-in-1 Kroxigor/Skink spawn brother model where a skink rides on top of the Kroxigor and shoots blowdarts.

>>96468571
There's so much that can be done with spiders and yet GW squanders it with barely supported tribal injun goblins on generic halloween spiders
If put in the hands of someone who gave a shit (and with an ounce of araneological knowledge) they could be a whole damn army

>>96468716
I already mentioned them being lower effort. I'm saying are you not worried that they will be even lower effort than they are right now.

>>96469335
Not really. If they do cut roles from the marketing department it'll be because of profit-reporting/cost-cutting measures, not leaks.

>>96469274
Luv me spiders. Hoping for new ones to supplement what I have, otherwise I'll just run my scuttleboss as one of the mew chariots and run all the spiders as snarlfangs

Since GW decided that Warcry isn't dead, should we expect to see more new kits for that too? Some of them are really cool looking and break away from the general look of their factions. I can't even tell what faction Jade Obelisk is supposed to be for, and that's a good thing.
I might pick up the Trueblades if my obsession with vampires holds strong.

>>96469374
Im taking up the tinfoil hat that all the people that work on warcry are focused entirely on quest rn. and thats the same team that works on warcry, so maybe after quest is done with all its supplements warcry will get kicked back on the stage.

>>96469392
I'd be fine with a bunch of cool kits for Quest. As long as they keep putting out interesting boxes for factions that shake up the look I'm down. I hope they move away from the Slavic/beast look for Soulblight though. I want to see other dynasties represented besides Vyrkos.

>>96467841
I liked the mongol aesthetic and think the 'modern' AoS ogre heroes look like shit

>>96469498
The Mongol aesthetic is too good to give up. I'll fucking green-stuff a fu manchu on my lads if I have to.

chorf ea-nasirr merchant character for warhammer quest assisting the heroes because nurgle is bad for his capitalist ventures

>>96469374
Cypher lords are sweet even if they're very obviously just one of the drafts they used when developing kairics

>>96466559
>after he (or she)
>his (or her)
>the dark prince
it's all so tiresome
>>96466603
it would have been fine if they actually designed it like that initially, or even retconned it so that aelves and aeldari are actually the same species but no, we need very arbitrary differences between what are basically the same fantasy race. The worst by far being "squats" what a dumb fucking name for dwarfs

>>96469716
>thinks Slaanesh having every set of pronouns is woke or something

Bait or retarded

>>96469725
90% of the use of "it's all so tiresome" is political whining so filtering that is a good idea

>>96469691
I lucked out and got a box of those for fairly cheap from a very dubious-looking ebay listing (no pictures, sold by some book store) and intend to use them as Jade Obelisk proxies for my Hysh-themed DoT. They're really awesome sculpts; the leader in particular is one of my favorite AoS designs ever.

>>96469716
Tbf british people don't call themselves Saxons anymore. Names change over hundreds of years, so there's absolutely no reason they would be the same after thousands and thousands of years

>>96469795
I love the hoe spinning the Frisbee, she's my fave for sure but the leader is a close second. I'm glad I grabbed a couple boxes of them. I'm think one day I'd like to start a std army using only warcry plastics for marauders all mixed up, or do a kairic heavy tzeentch list using all the tzeentchy warcry dudes

So are the Kruleboyz Chaos Orks? They don't seem very GW orky to me, more evil than usual

>>96466008
Well I poked around local, some guys selling me the spearhead, a bunch of the heroes (some daemon and the mortal dudes) and the glotkin for like 160 bucks. Woop woop.

>>96469832
they're just huge assholes

>>96469832
No, although they do trade often with the Helsmiths of Hashut (chaos dwarfs). They're just a more intelligent and cruel breed, because GW decided they wanted two separate orruk races that each embodied brutality and cunning.

>>96469725
Is there an explanation as to what those orb things are?

>>96469860
It's an astral compass that they use to navigate the realms and track their quarry

>>96469937
Thank you anon!

>>96469832
Nah they're just assholes. They are cunning but brutal, whereas ironjawz are brutal but cunning(yes this is the canon explanation). They aren't nearly as big or strong as the IJ, so they rely on sneaky, bullshit to get their way which as a result seems more evil. The big thing is most orks we've seen gw produce are gork aligned orks, whereas KB are one of the few groups of Mork aligned orks we've seen

>>96469725
Faster

Anyone have the Sand & Bone cards and other info saved? I want to see what the cards and stuff are like before I grab it

When will they show us full pictures of the refreshed Nurgle units? Around November?

>>96469832
No, but actually yes. They're Evil Orkz so they share a lit of design language with generic Chaos evil. Primarly spikes

>>96470304
Very few skulls though

>>96469798
they never did, retard

>>96468293
Fluff since 2e of reuniting the disparate Duardin factions.
Gotrek.
Grombrindal novels.
Dispossessed leaving AoS as they are now being a given and the hopium they won't just ditch the concept like Swifthawk Agents.

No rumour but things that could be read as hints from GW.

I do hope fyreslayers keep showing off muscles no matter what their next incarnation is.

>>96470269
World championship reveal show in November maybe
Warhammer Day in October maybe

Since chaos gods exist in future, present and past every dwarf god must have been watching their bro hashut like a fucking hawk and trying not to treat him like a future sex offender during fantasy

>>96470605
it's not that easy

>enhancements cost points
>still only have 3/3 tables
lmao

>>96470269
Assuming the chorf box goes up for preorder next saturday there's a good chance they show it as warhammer day early october

>>96469649
Is it a coincidence that influencers like Vince V state they like the hideous and gutless Cursed City Ogre?
I think not

>>96470744
>People are constantly picking this same spell lore/hero trait/artifact for their faction. Perhaps we should rework the other two to be viable ?
>Nah, just put a point cost on the good ones and push the update. I want to go home

>>96470858
GW writers are talentless hackers
Full story at 11:15 after the weather

>>96470744
and 1-2 of those enhancements are often unplayable trash, regardless of points.

this new design team is both creatively bankrupt and thoroughly incompetent. not only do we have fewer and less flavorful or diverse choices than ever, but they are also not even remotely balanced against each other. only a handful of armies where there are actually compelling choices

and you know what the worst part is? they seem to be getting worse as the edition goes on, not better.

>>96470848
Only retards don't like the cursed city ogre.

>>96470893
the cursed city ogre looks decent, and he makes a good maneater, but he doesnt read as culturally ogre to me.

>>96470901
He's not, it's a test for city Ogors and uniquely plagued by a curse of hunger that prevents the Shyish tribe from gaining weight

Not sure whether to buy Blightkings or wait for the new kit
You just know they'll be a different base size or something

>>96471005
buy the current one, they're one of the best plastic kits gw ever produced
if the new ones are different, then good, you'll have even more variety in a unit characterised by its heterogeneity
if the new ones have different bases, you can rebase or ignore the difference, in practical terms the game doesn't change if your 40mm based unit is actually 50mm based

Lawr

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cdfuejhk/who-are-the-helsmiths-of-hashut/

>>96471005
i would buy at least 1 box of the old ones just in case they squad them. its a very fun kit and gives you a metric shitload of bits.

i bought it 4 times and still didnt have any repeat models, its one of the most customizable kits GW has ever done, and the detail holds up really well, it doesnt feel dated at all.

>>96471016
>>96471023
>They preyed upon the unaligned daemons of Chaos, the daemons’ lack of allegiance making them easier to shackle, and set their sights on the Mortal Realms at large. In true duardin fashion, they forged meticulous plans of conquest, and set to creating an army to level the lands around them.
UNDIVIDED REMEMBERED

>>96471033
>Bull Centaurs are worshipped as the true children of Hashut, their births accompanied by sacrificial rites. Stranger things still are whispered of in the shadows – transformations and mutations beyond those seen in the lower echelons, sorcerous beasts with the heads of duardin elders scheming in the shadows of Hashut’s temples.
Lammasu still have a chance.

>>96471036
definitely a wave 2 coming at some point

>>96471027
Undivideds true relevance lies in Belakor getting a real army instead of the fake one he has now
All he really needs is a dedicated shadow mage
Two demons
A Calvary
Monster
A real infantry unit
>But what about Darkoath
What if I took a shit on your chest and called it exfoliating lotion? Huh? What if I did that? Darkoath is Darkoath the Legion should be its own thing. It’s exactly why Azorgh is dead long live the Helsmiths

>>96465983
It's more of a bident

>>96471016
>hashut showerd himself claiming to be a long-forgotten ancestor god
>they now believe hashut to have been the oldest and proudest of the ancestor gods
They're very careful with keeping it unreliable

>>96471072
which is a good thing, I much prefer unreliable lore narrators to god voice info dumps.

>>96471065
>A real infantry unit
Chaos Legionnaires?

>>96471065
Belakor is not TRVE undivided because he's a rogue agent against the gods
and as such he must be an underdog and not have an army like one of the main 4
I fully believe the horus heresy will deliver on making a truly undivided demon range

>>96471089
Are these guys even good in the Belakor AoR? I love them, they look like some 3rd edition lost and the damned stuff

>>96471089
>Warcry

>>96471027
unaligned =/= undivided =/= undefined =/= united

>>96471108
>Some of the best models in the AOS range

Since the only way to play a Beastmen army in AoS these days is to play Disciples of Tzeentch, show me your Beastmen of Tzeentch army (all Tzaangors, Thaumaturge etc).

>>96471185
The DoT Beastmen I'm thinking of playing is:

x1 Ogroid Thaumaturge (Hero)
-x3 Tzaangor Skyfires
-x3 Tzaangor Enlightened
-x20 Tzaangors
-x20 Tzaangors
Total Cost= 1000 Points

hashut or the ghr seem like an easy punching bag for nagash, which one is it gonna be to pave the way for 5e.

Warcry units would be perfect if they weren't exempt from reinforcement
Differing base sizes is irrelevant outside of rank and flank games

>>96471217
leaker said death is not the focus in 5th ed
my bet is on khul vs vandus rematch

>>96471279
Ironjawz are due a proper Gordrakk model but I'd expect GSG with new Stabbas and Spiders

Someone toss me the audiobook for Beastgrave please and thank you <3

>>96471214
>x1 Ogroid Thaumaturge
that's no beastman

>>96471279
Thought the leaker said it was death, just not ossiarchs

>>96471342
Nah but he fits the look so... whatever.

>>96471279
I don't think he said that, but that ossiarchs wouldn't be the starter faction, as far as I understood it, he seems like an ESL.

All the stuff he leaked seem to be for relatively near releases, as suggested by the teasers gw posted, so chances are he excluded ossiarchs as a starter army because he saw ossiarchs getting a wave of models now.

>>96471294
Gordrakk is fine

New characters and units would be better

>>96471356
>they wouldnt do nighthaunt starter again
>soulblight just got a release wave in 3rd and 4th edition
>ossiarch getting a wave in 4th ed
>FEC was updated in 3rd ed

so its either FEC, nighthaunt a second time, or an entirely new death faction
FEC seems most likely

>>96471366
I'm still betting on frankenzombies as a faction.

>>96471366
Or he's wrong and ossiarchs are getting both a wave of models and a starter treatment.

Or we're all wrong and there's no death army in the next starter at all.

>>96471372
yeah deadwalkers have been hinted at for many years, i could see that being in the starter. they like doing stormcast vs horde armies

Grand alliances better be coming back in 5th

>>96471408
I want elves OUT of order!

>>96471016
I still don't like those watermelon batteries.

>>96471501
>>96471501
>>96471501

>>96471016
In hindsight maybe not giving your big shieldwall some spears was a bad idea
>>96471072
>>96471085
Yeah noticed that too, I guess they're keeping the door open for some alternate theories. "Hashut" actually being a demon masquerading as a dead ancestor god is a pretty cool option.
>>96471023
This teal/purple fire look they have on the art is a lot cooler than the skaven green on the minis honestly

Is anybody actually excited for Helsmiths? Range looks like complete ass.

>>96471455
The only issue is the colour which is shared with Skaven, Night haunt AND OBR. If the demon-batteries were dark red then they will be more Chaos dwarfy

>>96471089
He said real

>>96470893
The pop eye jaw shit is gay and lame I think THICC Mongolians.

>>96471089
Man, i wish they used those designs instead of marauders

Damn this leak really means there's little to no hope for a BCR Army of Infamy for Ogres.

>>96464014 (OP)
Soon