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>Thread question:
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>strip a second hand model part for a kitbash from a black undercoat
>tfw its a recast

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>>96478374
Various leaks said that you're getting big cuts all over the place. Orks and Nids are supposed to be the big winners.

Space rats when?

>>96478394
You mean merchants? You already got the Votann.

>>96478365 (OP)
You linked the wrong previous thread and "forgot" the secret santa link again, mr.death-company-posting-early-thread-maker.

>previous early-made-thread-with-a-blood-angel-OP-image:
>>96474105
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>>96478365 (OP)
Shit thread question
New thread question
>Rate the bugs

>>96478394
Never, really. Outside of Minor Xenos status and that's a big maybe
>>96478414
Brood Bugs = Royal Bugs > Gun Bugs > Brain Bugs = Jump Bugs > Big Bugs > Snake Bugs = Bat Bugs > Stink Bugs
at least in terms of how "iconic" they are, IMO
Personally Brain, Royal and Gun/Big are my favourites

>>96478414
>Top tier
Beetles, Mantis, Scorpions, Moths, Wasps
>Mid tier
Ants, Spiders, Butterflies, Bees, Centipedes
>Low Tier
Termites, Mosquitos, Dragonflies, Cicadas, Millipedes

>>96478433
scorpions and spiders aren't bugs, they are arachnids

>>96478441
You're right, I clearly meant insects

>>96478447
Arachnids and myriapoda aren't insects either.

Anyone got Arks of Omen, The Lion specifically? Interested in the lore/cool art especially

>>96478458
there's no lore or cool art

>>96478441
>aren't bugs
Bug is a common term and not a scientific one. Any creepy crawly is a bug.
Same goes for a term like "fish"
Also nids are not bugs at all, really.

>>96478456
You're right, I clearly meant vermin

>>96478404
Votann aren't chaotic

>>96478464
Fish and squids are both vegetables

>>96478414
brains > guns > swarms
>
sneaky > bigs > winged
>
royals > worms > stinkies

>>96478479
>royals that low
Come on they're basically the most iconic and platonic nid there is, combining both gun, melee and brain.

>>96478486
I just think warriors suck

>>96478490
I mean they're old and too front heavy yeah no shit
But you can't hate on Tyrant

>>96478513
I don't like kronos as the gun bugs and tiamet as the brain bugs, it feels off.

>>96478513
>>96478525
Tiamet is a lot of things so it avoids proper category. If anything its iconic units would be Tyrant Guard, Sporocyst and Genestealers.
Kronos is definitely both Gun and Brain.

>>96478365 (OP)
I like the texture paste GW uses for their stuff. It sucks they don’t sell the white one that made for good snow anymore though and switched to that new stuff.

>>96478414
Anyone feeling lucky?

>>96478409
your constant samefagging has convinced yourself that anyone aside from yourself wants to participate in your scam

>>96478586
lol

schizo

>>96478379
>no pictures

>>96478570
Mating press with Behemoth

>>96478365 (OP)
Jormungandr Is the best looking one. The rest are lame.

>>96478634
Yellow and black is a solid combo.

>>96478644
They ripped of Starship Troopers so many times it’s not even funny.

You won't want to hear this but-
Carcharadons aren't a successor chapter.

>>96478648
Wait till you learn about dune
There is nothing new under the sun, everyone steals from each other
Starcraft is just straight up space marines and tyranids
Robocop is judge dredd

>>96478648
They've been doing this since they started. Space Marines are Rico on super Steroids.

>>96478570
Behemoth, my beloved.

>>96478657
I like how GW stole from Robocop for the new arbites.

So it's single thruster jump pack.

>>96478793
They all are now if it goes in a character.

I can't decide what color to paint my Space Marines :(

I got this months White Dwarf because it said it had tables for generating your own custom Space Marine Chapters, but it was only for the lore! I can come up with my own lore! It's the colors, symbol, and name I have trouble with.

>>96478394
Imperium already exists

>>96478829
if you can come up with the lore you can come up with the colors, symbols and names associated with said lore

>>96478829
Nova Marines.

Enjoy.

>>96478781
Those are also just judges though

>>96478829
Buy a cheap box of intercessors and paint all ten with different chapter schemes and see which one you like the final look and process of the most.

>>96478839
>>96478846
My lore is that they are a ~mysterious~ Dark Angels Successor Chapter with a focus on heavy ranged weaponry. "I will be more than happy to engage their champion in a duel, if he is still alive by the time we get that close" is their attitude. They have on occasion been specifically tasked by the Lion with dealing with planets in Imperium Nihilus that refuse to rejoin the Imperium, as the amount of destruction they unleash tends to bring whole societies to heel quite quickly.

While they do have a homeworld, a Deathworld not unlike Caliban, which they recruit from, they also have a habit of taking the sons of defeated human foes as Aspirants, willing or not. Their induction process involves more and more severe hypno-indoctrination than other Chapters, and a quirk of their geneseed is that the countenance of an aspirant changes significantly, so by taking the sons they eliminate the bloodlines of their foes while still denying them the glory of having fathered a Space Marine. This also keeps them well-supplied with Initiates and has let them keep their numbers high despite the punishing wars against Chaos in the Imperium Nihilus.

I want to go vaguely French with some of theming, especially in terms of character names, to counteract the Englishness of the Dark Angels.

>>96478858
I know, but it’s like they also went to the same well that also stole from Judge Dredd.

>>96478570
Rollan
>>96478414
Jump bugs > royal bugs > big bugs > brood bugs > brain bugs > snake bugs > bat bugs >stink bugs > gun bugs

>>96478858
So are Zod's new guys in Superman. Perfect faceless justice enforcer look.

>>96478414
No titty bugs no buy

>>96478938
Judge Dredd is such an iconic look.

>>96478967
Shrikes look a lot like tits

>>96478878
>Their induction process involves more and more severe hypno-indoctrination than other Chapters, and a quirk of their geneseed is that the countenance of an aspirant changes significantly, so by taking the sons they eliminate the bloodlines of their foes while still denying them the glory of having fathered a Space Marine.
This is something you can definitely start from, since you can highlight such a theme of metaphorical decapitation in both chapter heraldry, and color patterns for rank designation

for example, lets say the lower ranks of the army are tagged as borderline disgraced, as they're both removed from their origins as a sort of punishment rather than a glorification, and still without the deeds that would give them a new identity in the chapter, so their armor might be similarly unadorned like in a greyshield or blackshield, save perhaps something grim and bloody to represent the fact they've effectively died, like perhaps a skull white helmet with red used as color for the gorget

as they go up the ranks the armor might start seeing more and more parts "resanctified" and decorated since they're forming an identity within the chapter, perhaps this may be tied with the unit role in question, with assault marines, one of the earliest roles of a chapter, having mostly unadorned armor save for a the quarter holding the melee weapon, which may display a green and black (with just a little off-white) pattern reminiscent of the caliban heraldry, to keep the red as spot color and to place emphasis on the weapons, especially the bigger ones, these all may be bright red

and up the ranks until you reach the higher echelons where the armour is completely decorated and instead the darker/bloody colors are kept exclusively on their weapons and robes (symbolising perhaps cloaking in secrecy their newly acquired identity?

>>96479016
since your chapter seems to favour heavy weapons you might decide to have them diverge from the codex astartes and put in the role of fire support the veteran marines, throwing the newer marines as scouts, then assault, then tactical roles
this is essentially also a progression from small guns to big guns
and since the scouts don't have that much armor to properly fit as the darkest units in this whole color progression, they might have a peculiarly different scheme as symbolic "ghosts", dead but not yet "brought back"
having the least elite unit be in white is also a reversal of how the normal dark angels have their deathwing elites in white

the symbol might be again something representing this execution/decapitation of a noble line, by having a sword thrust down into a skull, or represent this progress of return from a kind of death, with an upside down coffin shape
or something that tries to have both elements in a weird mix like a ouroboro with a cut head

>>96479016
I gotta be honest. That whole part was just to justify me using female heads without contradicting canon 40k lore

>>96478982
you funny guy anon
you get eaten last

>>96479043
then serpent symbology might be extra useful to have since snakes have often been associated with femininity and with transformation

the french vouivre is a serpentine creature similar to a wyvern but sometimes without legs, it would allow you to have something french sounding in your chapter name and keep the various wings iconography on many marines by simply adding a serpentine design sprouting from the skull generally in the middle
nobody really cares if the wings are feathered or batlike anyway

>>96479080
oh shit, that's good. Vouivre Knights could work as the Chapter name. I just need to figure out how to pronounce vouivre.

I was already thinking of doing the main color armor metallic, because that's easy and I'm lazy. But if they're the Vouivre Knights then it would look like a thematic choice.

Shit, man, thanks.

>>96479113
Wait, no. The Knights of Floréal. Because then I can use the flower symbols from the Sisters transfer sheet and add a sword or a skull or something to make it unique. Bright metallic knightly armor, unique individual heraldry on sergeant and officer tilting shields. Campaign honors and such on officers, elites, and veterans. So it will all look very knightly, but I'll mainly be using, like, Hellblasters and Desolation Squads and Heavy Intercessors. Which I think will create a unique contrast between aesthetic and function

Goddamn, I really just needed a little bit of idea bouncing and I got it.

Thanks anons!

>>96478974
The best.

>>96478881
GW stole it all from 2000AD.

>>96478394
you should be less of a pedo

>>96478829
What is the lore? It might inform the design.

>>96478379
What was it?

>>96478379
just assume this is the case with any built + primed second hand model.

>>96479775
EBay would refund it.

>>96478458
>Anyone got Arks of Omen, The Lion specifically?
Yes: https://gofile.io/d/jxSxMb

>>96479775
Mine were never recasts.

sry that this is a repost but i finally finished painting my knight late yesterday !! it may look bad and noobish but idc im really proud of making him

Serious question: what is the appeal of Space Marines? I ask because they are easily the least interesting part of the setting for me, yet I have a considerable amount of them I've collected from various starter/FOMO boxes. They have a notoriously obsessive/autistic fanbase, and they print money for GW, so maybe I'm just missing something.

So hey, if you love marines, sell me on marines. Give me a reason to put a dent into this pile of shame. I feel like Raven Guard or Salamanders might be fun?

>>96481942
>what is the appeal of Space Marines?
Super soldier /your dudes/?
I like Black Templars.

>>96481942
>what is the appeal of Space Marines?
Whatever you want lmao. I like smurfs because they're flexible and rampant enough that I can /yourdudes/ it as much as I like but still have the occasional "special guest star" moment with the named guys with plausibility. Also PTERUGES AND HELMET CRESTS, BITCH.

>>96482020
40k is healing

>>96481942
raven guard are cool because they're presented as doing the fast precision strike stuff marines are supposed to be good at in the lore. the chapters don't have the numbers to do anything else (even the ultramarines with their feeder chapters).

the crimson fists standing on a hilltop getting obliterated is cool and all but it's not an aspiratinal image for #mydudes

>>96482075
Looks tasty

>>96482221
>raven guard
But do they have sneaky tanks and dreads?

I want castraferrums to be good.

>>96481942
Brutal, huge power armoured space dudes with tons of unit customization, loads of modular guns, dreadnoughts and terminators.

Does anybody know any good tutorials/tips for adding robes to regular Space Marines?

>>96481942
Beakie helmets are cute

>>96482535
Beakz are da best

>>96482351
the invictor is a sneaky dread. they're not an all stealth faction though, whatever the memes might tell you.

>>96481942
They're an NPC faction IMO, they're very fun to larp with.

Imperial agents expansion is coming
I can feel it...
>>96482075
>>96482826
Thats imperial guard
>>96482512
Those are orkz
>>96482221
Fair enough Raven Guard are cool
>>96482020
Me when the grimdark setting is grim and dark
Fuck goodguyhammer I want to know which faction is the absolute fucking worst and how mine can commit war crimes just as badly

>>96482868
Space Marines are just Imperial Guard (elite infantry and vehicles)

>>96482562
Little baby gun.

So, speaking of basic bitch choices - I'm thinking about starting 40k with SM army. Specifically, mech-SM, using Ironstorm Spearhead, but with "unfitting" chapter (Salamanders) without any synergy of characters with the detachment (AFAIK). How stupid is this? What should I expect play-wise?

>>96478381
Been away from my minis for the week, but here's what I finished just before I left

>>96482798
What products do you use for your cheap airbrush for basecoating? Flow Improver? Airbrush Thinner? Airbrush Cleaner? Can I jus thin the paint with water or do I need one of the airbrush products?

>>96482925

Perfectly fine. Every space marine chapter is proficient at all forms of warfare.

The salamander have just as many tanks as any other chapter

WIP of my IW Chaos Lord

>>96478394
Realistically, what would be their particular “flavor”? For the “horde” aspect, we already have the Tyranids; for the ‘dirty magic’ aspect, we already have the demons; for the “hiding in the sewers” aspect, we already have the Genestealers. I don't really see what an army of rats could bring to the 40k universe.,

>>96483027
>Realistically, what would be their particular “flavor”?
MOAR TOMBOYS

>>96482929
I got 200ml Vallejo Black Primer, 60ml airbrush thinner, 18ml flow improver and IPA from the hardware store to clean stuff. I use airbrush thinner as a lube first, a few drops go in first. Then a few drops of primer & thinner to prime stuff. For paints, I found regular water works just fine. Just add in a few drops and you're good to go. I heavily suggest watching this video. Shows you how to clean stuff with IPA as well.

>>96483058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
forgot the link

>>96483027
Maybe give them the place where the self-destructive nature of Chaos exists. They don't purposefully go out to self-sabotage but they exist in spurts. Becoming strong and big enough to be a menace for all parties involved, get kicked down, then slowly build back up based on the emotional temper tantrums of a self-hating, self-loathing chaos gods that is constantly giving into it's own baser whims in a way that even the top 4 do not.

>>96483000
I see. But I'd like to ask also - how the Ironstorm Spearhead play-wise? Is it too one-dimensional or a gimmick list? Or can I, after finishing the list, tackle friendly games and tournaments without worrying that half of the enemies are auto-lose for me at deployment phase (like, they are good fast melee that'd be in my face in a moment and I couldn't do anything from that point on)?

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96483058
this is the "simple solution to everything" airbrush shills tell you about.

>>96483110
Their early 2010s refresh was already pretty good though.

>>96483081
Play the meta lists or play with the models you like the most and special rules that fit them. Don't worry about anything else. Either you're building an army to win or building an army you actually enjoy to look at.

Aura

>>96483194
yeah but I still can't buy 2/3 of the range

>akhelian green
>it's blue
blatant false advertising
>>96483016
nice stripes, anon

>>96483263
Thanks

>>96478365 (OP)
> Good Guys are Black
Ftfy

What's the difference between Acrylic and Polyurethane varnishes?

>>96483302
one is acrylic

I had a realization while painting earlier. I fucking hate these backpacks. They're simultaneously the most annoying pain in the ass part to paint on a model while also being the single most boring part of any model. Every single once is exactly the same and I hate every one I have to paint.

>>96483302
The primary one is that white spirits will remove Polyurethane varnishes. The won't remove Acrylic ones.

So, if you're doing oils, enamels, or anything after you put on the varnish besides just paint, you'll want acrylic.

>>96483228
Eldar are the opposite of aura.

>>96481942
>Serious question: what is the appeal of Space Marines? I ask because they are easily the least interesting part of the setting for me

you wouldn't get it, too much estrogen in your system

>>96483194
They should sell everything in the 5th edition codex and all would be fine with them.

>>96481942
>What's the appeal of big armored dudes with chainsaw swords and big guns killing aliens
You're either a woman or a weirdo.

>>96483448
Because everyone knows space marines are not for women.

>>96483470
Correct
Nids, Orks, and occasionally Inquisition are for women.

>>96483526
Ah, right. All the female lead factions. Makes sense

>>96483526
Good to hear I'm a gigachad male for having a SoB army

>>96483561
SoB are kinda the tranny faction.

>>96483554
Nids are led by Norn Queens, perfect position for a lady to have all her spikey little critters.

>>96483585
they're biological women thoughbeit

>>96483314
you got three options

pick a different army, dingus
bling up the backpacks with skulls, candles, purity seals, whatever
go all Terminators

Come on GW, while we're young...

>>96483526
True Chads run Wolves, Awoooo!

>>96482925
It would be pretty silly not to bring any techmarines with the techmarine detachment. Though this detachment also facilitates the solo Gravis Captain build too so that’s fun if you want.

>>96483314
Become a Terminator Timmy anon

>>96481511
Sorry anon I went to bed just after I posted that, ill see what I can do, appreciate the suggestions. The only problem is the trike itself is resin which i haven't worked with much before, just isnt as malleable as plastic

>>96478793
Honestly it makes a bit more sense if they’re just doing literal boosted jumps like the short story they posted on WarCom showed. The two boosters suggest long term flight to me.

Are small aspect warrior units of 5 worth it? They seem too frail and feeble to do anything. Like 5 warp spiders and 5 banshees

>>96483782
It's Eldar. You're either tabling your opponent or getting tabled, either way by Round 3. There is no in between.

>>96483782
The winning NOVA list (1st place) used almost exclusively 5 man units besides the Fire Dragons.

How many vehicles do i need in a SM army to not get my ass cracked? I’m running Gman and Calgar, so the only vehicles i have are Impulsor and a Ven Dread. Can i make this work ok with mostly infantry the rest of the way? Or do i need to invest in a Vindicator or Gladiator?

>>96483806
Sorry not a Ven Dread? I meant a Redemptor.

>>96483782
5 Warp Spiders might seem okay to do secondaries/objectives with how their movement is. But Banshees seem like a combat unit with lots of anti-infantry melee, and general advice there is to bring max sized units.

>>96483806
2 Executioner, 1 Gladiator and an Impulsor. Big Knight meta is incoming as their codex is fucking busted. You can also take a Balistus instead or as well.

How's this look for a 1k list using the Tyranid Combat Patrol as a starting point look?

>Winged Tyranid Prime (65pt)
>Parasite of Mortrex (80pt)
>Hive Tyrant (195pt)
>10 Termagants (60pts)
>10 Termagants (60pts)
>5 Barbagaunts (55 pts)
>3 Hive Guard (90pts)
>6 Melee Tyranid Warriors (150pt)
>3 Von Ryan's Leapers (70pts)
>Ripper Swarm (25 pts)
>Ripper Swarm (25 pts)
>Psychophage (110 pts)

Warriors with the Winged Tyranid Prime, Hive Guard with the Hive Tyrant.

>>96483644
where'd you find these in stock?

Been playing Space Marine 2 which got me into Warhammer recently, is there a good proxy for a thunderhawk? It's so fucking cool but I don't really want to pay resell or retail price for one

>>96483828
On GW's website. They are made to order till monday.

>>96483830
Look into 3D printer sellers

>>96483806
Gman and Calgar isn’t a super powerful combo anymore with balance updates nerfing Calgar if you bring Gulliman. If you’re looking for an optimal list with Space Marines, vehicle spam/parking lot lists is still strong so I’d look up a winning tournament list to reference to see what you want to bring.

>>96483830
>”Oh it can’t be that bad-“
>915 USD
Echoing the other anon, 3D printer sellers are the way to go.

So, anons how are your kitbashes going?

>>96483844
great. I got card frauded this past week so I cant buy anything until the new one comes. Fucking epic.

>>96483890
haven't started yet, trying to finish a bunch of other random stuff I've got on my desk first.

the kitbash will be a really REALLY fucked up leman russ to go with this thing (lord solar proxy)

>>96483629
>>96483735
I have a box of terminators I plan to do eventually, but I've been feeling the pull of AOS because holy shit the models are just better over there. GW doesn't even try with marines.

>>96483314
That's why you paint the exhaust and add bits to them.

>>96483935
>I've been feeling the pull of AOS because holy shit the models are just better over there
I have the opposite opinion. I think everything AoS produces is dogshit and I have no interest in their setting even though I really tried to get interested. It's just shit.

>>96483935
>Feeling the pull
>Of garbage dump chorf knockoffs, side-shaven stormcast 'women', shitty not-skeletons, and down syndrome giants

>>96483935
>AoS over Terminators
ngmi….

>>96484074
The day Termiantors get mounts is the day I finally own some

>>96479303
>has boobs
>pedo

>>96483644
I was going to pay credit card bills and then immediately buy this. But then I realized I was paypigging for gw and for capital one. So instead I watched free entertainment and drank water.

>>96484227
I think what’s bad is that if was retro-Terminators or Genestealers I’d likely give in for the sake of convenience….

>>96484074
nta but that deathrattle army they sold a few months ago was fucking cool

>>96484074
They'll be my next 40k project. I plan to bash the new Terminator kit with the BA kit. Probably gonna magnetize the arms for the first time ever for lots of options. Also have several dreadnoughts to paint. In the future I'll probably just drybrush the shit out of the backpacks and leave them like that.

>>96484242
>Deathrattle
>Picks the worst looking model in the army
Man I hate how they basically just look like the old kit but sleepier. I love skeletons but these guys just bore the hell out of me.

>>96484270
I just think that one is funny
How's a skeleton supposed to blow a horn? guy's got no lungs

>>96484214
don't take any notice of him, he calls everything pedo.

>>96484274
Ethereal force

I think the new chaos dwarfs look fine and the lore was well done (by age of sigmar standards) and that chaos dwarfs will last at least 1.5 editions before being squatted for another 10 years.

>>96484262
I would honestly like to have some if GW ever gets around to selling the Spearhead box. But I got so many Marines I gotta paint still in 40K as is…

>>96484338
Oh lmao meant for>>96484242

>>96484074
Terminators are cool but not as cool as this fucking thing

>>96484103
>Termiantors
>mounts
pick one.

>>96484343
This is the sort of model that secondaries ooh and aah over because they don't know how hard painting big detailed models properly is.

>>96484343
Yeah but it's not $195s cool.

>>96484356
anon thats easier to paint than any greyknight kit

>>96484356
>>96484361
Idagf I'm buying one, I've painted large aos models before without too much fuss

>>96484356
big models like that are simple if you have an airbrush and aren't a gorilla

>>96478381
Started working on this again

In "Dawn of Fire: The Silent King", it's revealed that Roboute is taking promising Primaris marines under his wing and grooming them to be more than warriors. He is molding them to be leaders of men. Marine rulers and governors over mankind meant to lead the species to peaceful times. His old dream of Marines ruling and guiding humanity never died.
That would explain a troubling pattern with Roboute. He keeps sidelining baseline men leaders in favor of marine rulers. He forcefully reunited the 500 worlds of Ultramar and revived the Tetrarch Council, whose members are high-ranking Marines chosen by Roboute himself to rule Ultramar and its hundreds of worlds.

He bestowed on Dante of the Blood Angels the title of Warden of Imperium Nihilus, making him the effective ruler of half of the Imperium.
He named Captain Vitrian Messinius the Warden of Nephilim Sector, granting full authority over the Imperial forces and worlds within that shrouded part of the Imperium.
The template Roboute intends to reform the Imperium into is Ultramar. And who rules Ultramar? The Space Marines!
Again and again, Roboute is imposing Marine rule over mankind. This is explicitly against the Emperor's wishes, according to Malcador. The Emperor did not want transhumans to rule over humanity.

>>96484401
Doesn't it also reveal that Guilliman wants a long-term alliance with the Eldar?

>>96484401
Do you know who has the same line of thinking as Roboute? Warmaster Abaddon. His ambition is for the Marines to rule over the Imperium that they created. As Horus did, Abaddon sees baseline humans as too weak and unworthy to lead the Imperium. Mortal men ruling, in his reckoning, would only lead the species to ruin. He dreams of an Imperium ruled by Space Marines as it was always meant to be before the lying Emperor betrayed his angels by elevating mere men over them.

So fundamentally, Roboute and Abaddon are in agreement. I think it's part of GW's plan to make the two characters mirror each other.
If both of them want the same thing, couldn't they has things out?

>>96484403
Yeah, but Roboute adds "in an ideal time". So when the galaxy is at peace so it won't ever happen.
>>96484406
Hash things out*

>>96484406
Abaddon is a puppet of the Chaos Gods who's too stupid to look in the mirror and see his strings. Their goals do not align, because Abaddon's goal will only ever be that of the Chaos Gods, whether he likes it or not.

>>96484421
So is Roboute. The Dark Imperium highlights it boldly when the Emperor called Roboute his weapon/tool, literally puppeted his body, and then later, via a messenger, told him that he would be his way of rising from his throne

The Emperor aka the Dark King.

>>96484438
I like it because he's clearly kind of uneasy about the whole thing. It would be pretty based if he ends up on the keeping the Emp on the throne side of the coming Imperial shadow war.

>>96483935
i used to be a 40k guy for like 15 years, then dipped my toe into aos. now i have more aos armies than 40k even though the aos scene at my club is like 1/4 the players.

40k occasionally comes close with like the tyranid refresh or some of the newer necron stuff, but otherwise its no contest, i buy aos any day of the week.

>>96483890
I'm kitbashing knights but I'm at an impasse for the posing. Somehow the big ass oval GW calls a base is too small for what I wanted to do.

>>96484477
I’ll admit that I don’t really buy a lot of stuff for Aos or even play it much outside of spearhead, but I do like reading up on whatever is going on for grand alliance of death. Order is also slowly starting to interest me, between cities and sylvaneth.

Imperium this, Chaos that. You're just monkeys and test subjects. The Infinite Empire will rise again and you will serve or die.

>>96484568
Imotekh is currently in a civil war with the Silent King.
It's implied that he allied himself with Draxus.

>>96484401
Highly disagree. Guilliman is putting the best people possible into positions that matter, simple as. Read what he did with the Highlords of Terra in Watchers of the Throne.

The ruling class of the Imperium is all baseline human. The vast fleets are all crewed nearly entirely by baseline humans. Dante might be in command of Nihilus but he can't do shit without highly skilled human navigators plotting out the micro-jumps required to get around without the Astronomicon.

Furthermore >>96484406 is turbo wrong, like what about "be efficient and clean up the rotting hulk of the Imperium as best we can" says "Space Marine supremacy" huh? He's pragmatic and understands that in this time of war, those best suited to war are the genetically enhanced Space Marines. Him simply giving his "sons" a future beyond warfare is more pragmatism, so as to prevent another Heresy or Badab from happening in the future.

does anybody have a copy of the armageddon crusade book?
it's not sold in my country (lol) and I've got scans of everything except the missions / deployments
any help would be appreciated. I'm on the verge of calling LGSs in neighboring countries and making up an excuse to fly over and smuggle them back

The fact that this Combat Patrol is so complete tells me that they will 100% be replaced next edition with a refresh.
GW would never give something so good without strings in current year.

>>96484674
complete ass you mean right

>>96483890
>Cultist chan
Alright maybe the old spirit of /tg/ still lives.

>>96484693
It has every kit you could want from the current range

>>96484674
I still love those models.

What if, now hear me out guys, we gave a Swarmlord rabies? I already talked to Khorne and Nurgle who are both willing to sign off on the project

>>96484703
oh, then you posted the wrong combat patrol.

Does anyone just like building their marines with a more unified load out?

I hate all this bullshit like "twin linked accursed weapon". I mean claws are cool but like god damn this shit just complicates games too much.

>>96484619
>Highly disagree. Guilliman is putting the best people possible into positions that matter, simple as. Read what he did with the Highlords of Terra in Watchers of the Throne.
They just happen to be all Marines? In the Silent King book, he expresses contempt for the High Lords of Terra.
>The ruling class of the Imperium is all baseline human. The vast fleets are all crewed nearly entirely by baseline humans. Dante might be in command of Nihilus but he can't do shit without highly skilled human navigators plotting out the micro-jumps required to get around without the Astronomicon.
Navigators and the navy being important doesn't change the fact that they are now subservient to a marine ruler.
>He's pragmatic and understands that in this time of war, those best suited to war are the genetically enhanced Space Marines. Him simply giving his "sons" a future beyond warfare is more pragmatism, so as to prevent another Heresy or Badab from happening in the future.
Sounds like marine supremacy to me if he thinks they are best suited. Moreover, it's not just times of war. He intends for Marines to rule in peace as well.
Remember that the seeds of the HH were sown when Horus found out that the Emperor was going to replace the legions' rule of the Imperium with a civilian government.
Roboute is going to create his own version of a HH and Badab, since marines, once in contro,l will never let go of power.

>>96484580
>Draxus
Who?

>>96484401
So what you're saying is chaos cucks revolted and turned into plague monsters and rape beasts for no reason.

>>96484719
it gets easier if you are using the same units every game and remember your weapon profiles

BLanon should do this guy some day, just for fun

>>96484726
No? Without removing the False Emperor, the dream of an Imperium ruled by Space Marines would have died.

>>96484723
The bald lady with the bird who hates Necrons

Dreadnoughts with grav tech for legs

>>96484801
Where can I read this ridiculous lore? Was it in the codex?

>>96484809
She does have lore in the agents codex, also a book

>>96484401
>The Emperor did not want transhumans to rule over humanity.

Funny edict from a post human

>>96484843
He is a meta-human, not post human.

>>96484809
Psychic Awakening: Pariah
Crusade: Pariah Nexus
The WD lore article about the Silent King

>>96484831
>She does have lore in the agents codex, also a book
I guess I'm not that interested. Thanks.

Almost got this box. Thought it was wierd that people didn't buy it. Turns out it only has a basic bitch Paladin without the Canis sprue and without the Warden sprue. What a fucking scam.

>>96484865
Yeah they've split up and joined the knight kits I think twice now. Usually every time they add a kit they either split or join them

>>96484872
Yeah, though selling a basic Paladin in a battleforce is the ultimate scam. Doesn't even come with any carapace weapons. If you get this you'll always have a gimped Knight.

Balance Slate when?

>>96480704
>https://gofile.io/d/jxSxMb
Thank you !

>>96478570
Does Ouroboris eat herself out?

>>96484879
>>96484865
buy the battleforce and another big knight, put the extra top guns on the one from battleforce

>>96484722
>Sounds like marine supremacy to me if he thinks they are best suited.
It might be, but he is still right. Marines are better suited to be statesmen than regular humans.

It's no coincidence that Ultramar is one of the better places in the Imperium where humanity has better living conditions.
You can see what happens when you let normal humans be in charge. They are just completely feckless idiots who just run everything into the ground and fuck up everything with horrific living conditions for their subjects under them.

>>96483890
technically its a kitbash cause i used some sprues from other kits to make the scaffolding for the electronics

>>96484865
I got a canis box so to me this box was pretty perfect since between the two I can build whichever knights I want.

>>96485072
Now fill it with live hornets

>>96485082
One of my buddy's recommended one of those tiny fog machines they make for model trains, which is tempting

>>96483890
Got mine done for this month

>>96485111
lookin sick

>>96483782
It’s best to expect an eldar unit to die if seen. They pinch should their points against their intended targets. Just play to win the trade and assume if the unit lives for another turn it’s a win

>>96485119
thankye

Should 11th introduce rules that better reward taking battle line units? Kinda boring to see armies kike death guard with 0 plague marines all the time. Older editions had a force org chart that pushed this

>>96485137
They should consider introducing rules to reward taking 2000pts of dreadnoughts

>>96482020
Retvrn to grimdark. If your Commander uses 'reasonable tactics' and 'humble requests' he can go fuck himself to HALO or SW. You marching over that minefield.

>>96485137
Bring back force org, ppm, wargear cost on impactful weapons, design a 500~ pt skirmish mode with heavy restrictions and modified rules that still has customisation like boarding action

>>96484865
Surprised there isn't a new knights Battleforce to go with the codex release

What's your favorite chapter of the Badab war? Mine is the Exorcists because I like the occult symbols on their amour and their deamon hunters without being gay

>if an Eldar gets into a fight, 95% of the times, their mission has already spectacularly failed
Is that why they're always getting bodied so hard?

>>96485249
I like the Fire Hawks because the only good astartes is a dead astartes

>>96484719
I feel you, but I still go with the varied loadout.

>>96482495
I want castraferrums to have good plastic kits.
Bring back the unique sculpts fully in plastic, since GW drove off all the inovators.

And don't pull the same shit as the HH legion contemptors, fucking cunts.

>>96483890
damn, some good shit here

How fast can a titan go? Can they fight in space?

Oh right there was a new game mode in WD last month

>>96485337
>speed
I mean it goes fast because it's huge, but it looks like it's walking.
Fastest would prbably be warhounds, being scout titans.

>space
Space or void/vacuum?

>>96485340
Anything worth taking?

>>96485344
lets go with vacuum

>>96485364
And that's the full of it. Collected in imgur.

https://imgur.com/a/lmkRel7

>>96484893
>tfw no cold trader gf