Thread 96478672

These "people" need to be killed. The only idiots who would want daemon primarchs to be "redeemed" are idiots who would completely undo any grimdark in 40k just to make room for retarded capeshit. Reddit needs to be nuked off the fucking internet.

>>96478672 (OP)
>no fulgrim v clonegrim ultimate homo throwdown
Imagine being filtered this hard

>>96478672 (OP)
Then go tell them that they’re wrong. Go also tell that 40k isn’t for them in the same way certain foods aren’t for everyone and that forcing themselves to try to enjoy something that isn’t for them is not healthy.

>>96478690
>PRIMARCHS!!!!!!!

go back to watching marvel movies, retard.

>>96478672 (OP)
Impossible. GW ruined 40k a long time ago.

>>96478672 (OP)
>reddit is ruining 40k

And water is wet, anon.

>>96478672 (OP)
>ruining dogshit
Can't make it any worse lol

>>96478672 (OP)
>>96478672 (OP)
Nothing on reddit wouldn't have appeared on fan forums 20 years ago.

>>96478690
>waiter, waiter!! more primarch slop, please!!!

>>96478672 (OP)
>>96478700
>>96478766
>>96478802

In late oughts people on forums like dakkadakka were wishing for GW to advance the plot. Oh how the monkeys paw curls...

Really the best fluff was in the index Astartes articles and early imperial armour books. Too bad disgusting subhuman nerds want to have everything explained to them and all mystery and ambiguity removed from the setting.

>>96478871
I started 40k in 3rd edition and left in 4th (started grad school and ran out of time). I think its hilarious that people often say that "my" edition actually was the best.

>>96478876

Yeah it's common, but 3rd and 4th editions were the best when it came to fluff, actually.

>>96478672 (OP)
Reddit is unironically poison for any fandom or community. Echochambers of predictable milquetoast opinions and plot twists pulled from the pond of mediocrity. Any creator worth their salt would not give two shits about what the dumb fucks on there think. Nor here, for that matter, but at least there can be drops of intelligence in the sea of retardation, and they're not hidden beneath waves of upboats by midwits.

>>96478871
>Too bad disgusting subhuman nerds want to have everything explained to them and all mystery and ambiguity removed from the setting.

BLfags raped the setting

>>96478672 (OP)
I don't give a shit about what reddit thinks. I'd tell you to go back, but I'm frankly more concerned that nobody in this thread has yet told you to kill yourself for confessing to being a redditfag.

>>96478672 (OP)
>These "people" need to be killed.
Bro. The stakes couldn't be lower.

I would think 40k is ruining /tg/

>>96478672 (OP)
>reddit is ruining 40k
No, that's just GW and it's own writers doing it, and no amount of gatekeeping will actually stop it.
If you want any of this to stop your only choice is to stop playing 40k and other GW games, and as a whole stop supporting GW.

>>96478935
What? Do you mean all the braindead threads that should have just been comments in the general? Threads just like this one?

>>96478957
>vote with your wallet

This never works. The only solution is to kill the writers and replace them.

mad /tg/ has fallen so far off the fandom totem poll no one even cares about this place anymore?

>>96479049
lmao nobody ever cared about /tg/ and 4chan in general outside of a couple stupid stunts in the first place

>>96479059
We used to be a pillar of the fandom, 1d4chan, this was one of the best places for 40k discussion and used to have more average posts than /r/warhammer 40k

This place was already dying but after the hack? Its dire at this rate

>>96478871
"Retards wanted something stupid and it turned out to be bad" is hardly a cursed monkey paw wish.
>>96478672 (OP)
This is retarded, but part of me finds it funny that Reddit would refer to re-joining the "cruellest and most bloody regime imaginable" as redemption.

>>96479003
Then go ahead, I won't stop you.

Either way, I'm right.

>>96479078
>cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable

That's fanfiction and the most reddit thing in this thread, anon.

>>96479078
You're the opposite side of the coin.

>>96479331
No, it's the text of the book, anon. Always has been. Appears at the very start of Rogue Trader, the original WH40k book.

>>96479422
>rogue trader

Like I said, fanfiction. Nothing more than "imperium bad" postmodern propaganda

>>96479439
you can be postmodern or postop still doesnt make you a woman

>>96479439
>"The original version of the setting? Yeah, complete fanction."
Ok

>>96479439
The woke right really has gone too far. Get a lobotomy, it'll raise your IQ by like 30 points.

>>96479444
Rick Priestley was a communist and Rogue Trader is not connected to modern 40k. They are two seperate settings. One is about how the imperium is bad, the other is a Greek tragedy of grand proportions where good will triumph in the end, as is Christ's will.

>>96479455
now this is fanfiction

>>96478935
/tg/ is the 40k board. Everything on /tg/ that isn't 40k is a pleasant diversion from the primary content of the board. It was created as the 40k containment board. It is still the 40k containment board.

>>96479468
Christ is King, my man. And the Emperor is Christ.

>>96479475
Imperium bad is canon, anon. Sorry. You declaring everything you don't like is fan fiction won't change that.

If good triumphs in the end, that means the Tau will conquer the Imperium.

>>96479453
That's like calling someone an Anarchofascist. It makes no sense you bonehead.

>>96478672 (OP)
/tg/ has been obsessed with redeemed primarchs for years, you don't get to cry reddit

>>96479489
Exactly. It's /tg/'s fucking fault for all of this primarch slop

>>96479481
It makes perfect sense: just like the woke they are incredibly focused on identitarianism and obsessively try to cancel everyone for minor infractions.

>>96479480
The Imperium represents humanity in its collective struggle against entropy, despite eons of social and cultural decline. It isn't possible for humanity struggling against entropy to be evil, it is only possible for that struggle to entail enormous amounts of suffering, which is an evil, but does not make the effort itself evil.

The Tau conquering the Imperium would also not solve any of the structural problems of the Imperium. The Tau are not equipped to handle these problems, and so would coopt the same institutions that handle them now, as every barbarian conquest has since the beginning of time.

>>96479506
That's retarded, but let's pretend that it's not retarded--what the fuck does that have to do with this?

>>96479514
You fuckwit, 40k's entire thing is the fact that the Imperium is doomed. The setting is GRIM and DARK, the Imperium is doomed to a slow and painful death, mankind is fucked, the galaxy is fucked, there is no hope, THERE IS ONLY WAR. AN ETERNITY OF CARNAGE OF SLAUGHTER. and the laughter of thirsting gods.

>>96478672 (OP)
Reddit is gay but you give off school shooter vibes

>>96478871
>Really the best fluff was in the index Astartes articles and early imperial armour books
My favorite thing from those was from the 1st Model Masterclass showing the Krieg trench diorama. I dream of remaking this for myself one day, but my skills aren't up to par just yet.

>>96478871
The "le advance le plot" people were always retarded secondaries. It's a setting, not a story, if you want overarching plots play them out through your games. It's like someone suggesting a company advance the plot to an RPG setting as though the whole point of an RPG isn't for the players to advance the plot through their game.

>>96479869
The retarded secondaries apparently found jobs at games workshop and did it. They raped the setting. The bastards

>>96479549
That does not actually change anything about what I said. That's just the real world. History doesn't end and everything sucks, but the human species will endure through it all until it does not.

It is virtuous to fight against entropy. It is evil to demand otherwise. It is childish to decry life because it is hard.

>>96479962
You sound like a newfag

>>96479669
I would never shoot up a school. That sounds horrible.

But every single grown adult who thinks 40k should be less grimdark and complains about "grimderp" should be fucking tortured to death.

>>96478910
Reddit is depressing. It's people emulating bots that get updoots so they can get dopamine so they can pass off their urges to be popular as some sort of creativity. They're the HR department of the internet.

They're like a locust swarm. Devouring until theres nothing left and moving to something else. The same blandness is here as well but luckily somewhat quarantined into generals.

There is nothing wrong with Reddit and Warhammer sucks.

>>96478910
Unfortunately GW writers listen to redditors when it comes to deciding what to do next. r/40klore decides the direction of 40k's fluff, which means it's nothing but primarchs and retarded noblebright shit from here on out

>>96480044
Reddit is so fucking annoying because they downvote or ban people who disagree with the common beliefs into oblivion, and anyone who disagrees with them must be a troll instead of someome with different opinions or preferences.

>>96478672 (OP)
Nigger, why the fuck are you on reddit?

>>96478910
>>96480044
>>96480114
For people who hate reddit, you fags sure are intimately familiar with what posting on reddit is like. Curious.

40k fans deserve everything bad that happens to them. Every "they're RUINING 40k!" thread that pops up brings me great pleasure.

>>96480114
I only use reddit to get some dopamine from upvotes on my models, the place is unbearable outside of that

>>96479990
I'm not. I've been here for a very long time, and I have separated the emotional dross of 40k from its actual truth, which is that over time, the elements of a civilization which fight for their existence will outlast the elements which compromise with oblivion for whatever reason. Thus, in the distant future, the Imperium of Man consists of those institutions which did not buckle to the forces of entropy and allow themselves to be swept away, usually because they were intolerant, violent, and brutish, willing to take decisive and extreme action to weather the challenges they faced. The Imperium is what it is because it has been forced to adapt to constant and perennial threats to its existence.

Getting up in arms over the ethics of the Imperium is luxury morality at its most gay.

>>96480143
since 2016, 4chan has significantly consisted of alt-right teenage redditors who felt persecuted after /r/the_donald was banned.

>>96479514
>The Tau conquering the Imperium would also not solve any of the structural problems of the Imperium. The Tau are not equipped to handle these problems, and so would coopt the same institutions that handle them now, as every barbarian conquest has since the beginning of time.
The Tau are extremely well-equipped to handle everything, that's why you faggots bitch about them being "Mary Sues" all the time. Accept the boot of the master race.

>>96480146
Nothing that has happened to 40k has been that bad compared to other IPs. Battletech is in infinitely worse shape for example. 40k will endure forever, regardless of foolish decisions made concernant its metaplot and secondary media. 40k might have problems, but it's not fucking IlClan.

>>96480184
>Battletech is in infinitely worse shape for example.
Yes but also no, because Battletech players tend to just refuse to play shit they don't like.

>>96480143
I use it to make myself angry like reading clickbait angerbait news stories. Also I like to argue and redditors are easy to argue with because they have so many shit opinions.

>>96480184
At least battletech fans refuse to play ilclan and just stick to the good parts of battletech, whereas the vast majority of 40k fans happily accept the nuhammer slop poured down their throats

>>96480177
It was fine from 2018 to 2022, which was the height of the /pol/ Volkerwanderung. The total collapse of the board is recent, I assume it was the hack that really put the final nail in the coffin.

>>96480208
This is bad for you.

>>96480182
No they aren't. The Tau don't understand Chaos, and the religion their society is structured off of is woefully inadequate to deal with threats that cannot be subverted and integrated. The Imperium has internalized that friend-enemy distinction is the basis of civilization, which is a pretty enormous advantage. The Tau by contrast have an ideological inability to view the situation they are in objectively, which is why they will continue trying to conduct diplomacy with the Dark Eldar.

>>96478766
Yeah but at least on fan forums you could call them a stupid faggot in more words or less. On Reddit any negativity, correct or not, is penalized.

>>96480191
>>96480209
That's because Battletech is set in eras, but so is 40k set in editions. If you want to play older versions of the game you can, but if people play the newer versions it is because they do not find the changes meaningful to their experience. I play Imperial Guard, my experience has not changed meaningfully since Apocalypse came out.

>>96480182
>>96480239
The true Tau "victory" is that they become as hateful, xenophobic, and cruel as the Imperium. That is the only way they win.

>>96480273
99% of the 40k community refuses to play anything but the latest edition and will toss you out of non-GW affiliated local stores just for daring to suggest you should play an older edition

>>96480208
>I'm not a redditor, I'm just a redditor

>>96480239
>No they aren't. The Tau don't understand Chaos, and the religion their society is structured off of is woefully inadequate to deal with threats that cannot be subverted and integrated.
The Tau have an interstellar civilization and the universe of WH40k is one where Chaos is omnipresent. They are perfectly capable of handling Chaos, as seen by the fact that their planets aren't constantly falling to Chaos. This is just Imperium copium.

>>96480384
Call me a redditor, I don't give a shit.

>reddit is ruining 40k
>by posting on reddit

>>96478672 (OP)
>getting rid of grimdark
GOOD

Also, gb2 your containment thread, you fat nasty trash.

>>96478871
>In late oughts people on forums like dakkadakka were wishing for GW to advance the plot.
This was always a tiny, tiny minority of retards and no amount of revisionism will ever change that.

>>96478957
Actually that's not your only choice at all. You can choose to be the spectre at the feast, haunting your local stores and clubs with your existing collection of books and armies for superior older systems, constantly trying to lure away the less retarded of disaffected modern GW players - with persistance you'll make progress eventually. Unlike your solution of chucking a tantrum and storming off, this also has the benefit of really annoying the terminal GW cultists.

It took me almost six months, but I managed to poach almost everyone from the Nucromunda league being run at a local club by a GW staffer(he's completely open about the fact that he only bothers to attend so he can run groups for Current Thing and try to steer them towards his store). 80% of his players are now in my NCE league and the rest abandoned ship and went back to playing Bolt Action, I lived off his hilariously obvious seething for a solid month it was great.

You're halfway there, eventually you'll get that "don't let GW tell you what to do" means you also don't have to let them take away the editions you do like.

>>96478910
Reddit isnt even a simple echochamber, its entire structure is set up to discincentivise and minimize unpopular opinions.

>>96480832
You're the minority and these folks in the 90-2000s were not. The boom of 8th proved it: people were tired of the stale state of 40k.

>>96478672 (OP)
Bro, forget about primarchs and primaris. We have legit tranny sisters of battle now, I'm not even joking. It's fucking over.
From James Swallow (lol) Iron & Bone:
>'I merely ask as I am concerned for your wellbeing, Sister...' He paused, as if thinking. 'Sister Verity, isn't it? I do my best to take care of my passengers.'
>'You know my name?' Had she mentioned it to Telfer after they disembarked from the warp ship that had brought her to this system? Verity searched her memory, but she couldn't recall.
>'You told me,' said the pilot. 'Remember?' He grinned. 'A good name, good name. I once knew someone who took it when they transitioned. It's in the Book of Heroes, so it is.'
>'I didn't want them to add it,' Verity replied, without thinking.
>Telfer's face fell. 'What say you...?' She realised too late that she had said more than she meant to. The pilot's eyes widened. 'Wait, say not. You're not... You're not her, are you?'
>'Sister Hospitaller Verity Catena of the Order of Serenity,' buzzed the rat-voice, drawing information from the archives. 'Honour-Known of Sanctuary 101, Meseda Quintus, the Nomad Moons, Cadia's Shame—'
>'Make it stop talking, if you please,' Verity snapped, in her tutor's manner. 'All those things happened a long time ago.

>>96481178
>Telfer's conduct transformed in an instant. His oily, calculating behaviour became deferential and courteous. 'Forgive, forgive, honoured Sister. I was not aware my humble ship was carrying an Anointed Heroine of the Imperium.' He gave a nervous chuckle. 'Someone should have told me! I'd have given you a belter cabin for starters!'
>She eyed him. 'Do you have any better accommodation on this craft?'
>The Mournful was a ship that even a generous critic would have struggled to call 'functional'.
>'Well, no,' he admitted. 'But I would have put some cushions in there, or something... It's the least I could do for a Heroine of the—'
>'I am not a heroine,' she broke in, silencing him. Verity picked up the metal case and moved away. 'I... I merely served in the presence of heroines.'

>>96481178
dawg "transitioned" in this passage just means when they choose a nun name lmfao

but I will say all the lgbt flags look fucking awful, I hate pastels so damn much

>>96479480
He's baiting you, man. Don't respond.

>>96481230
Nah, the author came out and confirmed it was a tranny sister. From James Swallow's twitter:
>Hi! The referenced scene is from my Sisters of Battle story "Iron & Bone" not my novel "Faith & Fire"; Telfer (the pilot) is telling Verity (Sister Hospitaller & war hero) about his friend (a regular Imperial citizen) who took the same name after they underwent gender transition.

>>96480177
Found the election tourist. Otherwise you'd be sperging out about gamergaters

>>96481294
>he thinks every board is /v/

>>96479475
he's literally the antichrist lmao

>>96480411
The planets don't fall to chaos due to divine intervention. There's a Death Guard Codex where a planets fall to mutated animals because the Water Caste didn't knew what the water ritual the natives did involved Nurgle

>>96480177
We also have redditors like puckee who post openly

>>96481413
Anyone can be an Anti-Christ, according to one of the Epistles of Peter(or John, forgot which of the two).
Abaddon is also one himself and Horus also did.

>>96478672 (OP)
It's a story that exists to sell plastic army men and it's really cringe that you care enough about it to get this mad.

>>96481550
>kills all Christians
>tells people to worship science instead

Uh huh. Yeah, the Emperor sure is Christlike.

>>96481395
Who are you quoting?

>>96478672 (OP)
>reddit is ruining x
you are ruining this hobby by reading reddit, stay the fuck off the site and tell other people to stay off that garbage heap.

>>96479475
It just shows you have no idea what you are talking about, man.
BigE expressly stated he met Jesus and decided to become on of his apostles.

>>96481178
>trans-pride-color-scheme
Mainly Nurgle with a dash of Tzeentch? Checks out.

>>96480239
>The Tau by contrast have an ideological inability to view the situation they are in objectively, which is why they will continue trying to conduct diplomacy with the Dark Eldar.
Untrue. The Tau have, for example, accepted, that they cant reason with the orks, and shoot them on sight.

>ruining
Who wants to tell him?

>>96478672 (OP)
Pretty sure shit models, ridiculous prices and an unstable rules set are killing 40k breh

>>96478690
who wins the twerk off?

>>96478672 (OP)
The only daemon primarch who deserves redemption is Angron and that's because he has never once willingly served Chaos, Khorne enslaved him thanks to Lorgar's dickery.