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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What concept, theme or background do you want Magic to do? How would you like to see it done?

Fucking newfags always baking new early. The thread can easily go to 600 before it needs a new one. It isn't a fast board, there's very little risk of a 404, and anyone looking for /edhg/ is going to search it in the catalog so being visible on the first page doesn't matter to us.

We were having a nice discussion of future potential for tarot cards.

>>96483268
Lets decide what the post limit should be for a new one then. 500 or 150 images reached? No less?

>>96483268
Holy shit cry us a fucking river

>>96483249 (OP)
>TQ: What concept, theme or background do you want Magic to do? How would you like to see it done?

I know it doesn't fit the normal flavor, but with all these UB sets out does it even matter at this point? Either way Venture Bros. is incredibly based and has tons of characters, lore and interesting locations. It would make an awesome set.

>>96483249 (OP)
>TQ: What concept, theme or background do you want Magic to do? How would you like to see it done?
What I want:
>Conan the Barbarian, Dark Sword & Sorcery
>bloody battles, edgy villains, masculine warriors, sexy women
What I will get:
>popular anime UB + precons

>>96483268
Then continue the discussion?? Or was it already dead so now all you can do is complain?

>>96483273
Image limit is reasonable. Last thread was at 84/150 images by the way
>>96483280
Silence newfag

>>96483309
>Then continue the discussion??
It's much harder to carry on cross-thread you drooling retard.
How about you learn anything about how this site works before you start shitting the place up?

>>96483318
What tarot card do you want to be printed into MTG the most anon? What would it look like? What world would it fit on?

>>96483318
The thread question was probably tailor made to continue that discussion dumbass.

>>96483327
>>96483137

>>96483268
Why do zoomers care so much about chan "culture" (that coincidentally has only existed for a couple years)

>>96483381
They crave *so badly* to be a part of the "cool kids club". It's honestly pathetic

>>96483381
>has only existed for a couple years
lmao
Also nothing in that post even hinted at culture. You were given 2 good reasons that we don't need a new thread.
1. The board isn't fast, so there was no risk of the thread 404ing, it was on page 7
2. This is a general that people are hardly ever going to click on a whim when they see it in the catalog. People looking for EDH threads are going to search for EDH threads so there is no advantage to being on the first page.
>>96483407
I'll tell you what's pathetic, redditors with no concept of how this site works just doing things they don't understand for no coherent reason
>unga bunga thread at bump limit
>reddit not have bump limit
>me not know what do
>hmm me think make new thread because no bump limit betterer!

>>96483381
OP here
>chan culture has only existed for a couple years
2006ish is almost 20 years anon. The culture emergent from 4chan is hugely influential on the internet and mainstream culture. And that core is worth preserving, even if anon got mad at me for starting a new thread because he wanted a comfy down-board tarot talk

>>96483419
>nothing in that post even hinted at culture
>newfags
You wouldn't have used newfags if it wasnt them breaking some apparent rule or code of conduct (which they would know if they weren't "newfags"). Culture is implied. Logically refuted, dont respond to me.

>>96483436
Yes, you are a newfag because you fundamentally do not understand how this site works or why we make new threads when we do. That's nothing to do with culture.
Find something else to be mad about newfag

>>96483419
Jesus christ he's still going lmao. Show us the official post from the mods/admin if you're so confident, show us ANY proof whatsoever of these """""official rules""""". I see nothing on the rules page, too? Curious.

>>96483453
>he's still going
>HAHAHAHA YOU ARE REPLYING TO A CONVERSATION I AM ALSO REPLYING TO!!!!!! I WIN!!!!
Manlet cope

>>96483449
>how this site works
>how or why we do things
>nothing to do with culture
You do not know what the words you use mean.

*tucks your commander*
Nothing personnel kid

>>96483480
Here's your (You), friendo

>>96483480
Didn't they change it so you can replace that effect with sending your commander to the command zone now?

>>96483463
>if I define everything as culture then I win!
Is that your culture?

>>96483501
Yes, he's being silly for the (you)s

return to ikoria will be a tokusatsu-themed set

Anons, I am thinking about upgrading my Saruman deck since it has been having a hard time keeping up with modern precons (which is usually the level I play at). I`ve been thinking about getting

>Manaform Hellkite
>Shark Typhoon
>Vial Smasher the Fierce

As an alternative wincon for big spells and more big spells that can be cast cheap like Curtains' Call. Do you guys have some suggestions?

>>96483501
Yes whenever your commander would leave the battlefield you can put them back in the command zone

>>96483518
You know in this day and age that poster could be an alt art. Why the fuck not? Who needs readability anymore?

>>96483536
In most cases, yes. With something like this, no.

>go to a new game store for the first time
>everyone is fine, games are fine
>but they're all talking about how they set aside hundreds of dollars a month to buy foils and Secret Lair arts to "upgrade" their decks
>they literally refer to it as an investment
>mfw

>>96483518
Honestly at this point I would enjoy that. The WB humans fighting the monsters were a little heavy handed as "bad fascists" when the set really needed a FUN human representative. The monsters are genuinely bad and trying to eat you, we need real heroes.

>>96483546
This is incredibly readable anon do you have visual issues?

>>96483549
Yeah, yeah, but that's the resolution of an ability. Like a self-contained package. All the text there effectively resolves at once before anything else can happen

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96483579
What's the card's types anon? Creature? Legendary creature? Enchantment creature? What kind of creature is it? Demon? Avatar? Tell me where that is on the card please.

>Mark notices red is struggling in EDH
>"Hmm maybe this is because red offers very little splash value in a format with Legacy-tier manabases and extremely limited aggro prospects due to your opponents having 6x life."
>"...Nah let's keep doubling down on 'play from exile' cards for red's design space, making it even less splashable."
Is R&D fucking stupid? They can't even break the color pie correctly.

>>96483580
Yeah I know, I was just pointing out the exception to the general rule. You can't *always* do the commander trick. I think there's a few other cards that circumvent this as well

>>96483587
What does that have to do with readability? Youre retarded holy fuck. It lacking information is NOT a readability issue.

>>96483590
I know you watched a youtube video and decided to absorb some e-celeb's opinion as your own like the horrifyingly hollow mimic you are, but red is by far the most popular monocolor in this format. You can literally just compare numbers on EDHREC

>>96483598
>vital information literally is not there to read
>"what does that have to do with readability????"
I diagnose you with shit for brains, I will inform your insurance, your bill is $30,000

>>96483608
Yes NOT THERE TO READ. Readability, means the words can be read, the ones present, not the invisible words you think need to be present. Fuck sakes I hate this fucking thread so much

I have both a Raff and an Osgir list I quite like. I also have a Kykar Vehicles deck that I might pull apart.
Do you have some fun Izzet Commander recommendations that I can build to complete my artifact guilds trifecta in Jeskai?

>what up you tryin to play a game?
>hell yeah man watchu playin today?
>I am playing an untap combo and attack with a pumped up creature for lethal
>cool I react at instant speed with a sorcery and win the game
what a faggot lmao

>>96483601
>Krenko is all of red
Okay mark.

>>96483619
>text that isn't even there is decipherable and legible
Come on now.

>>96483268
>hurrr wait until page 11
Fuck off. This isn't /p/

>>96483381
Desperate need to fit in.

>>96483419
>1. The board isn't fast
It actually is fairly speedy compared to about 7 other boards I go to. It ain't /vpol/ or /pol/ but it's faster than shit like /toy/. /xs/ has threads up from a YEAR ago. You seem to operate off the idea it is still 2011.

>>96483679
>>96483692
Page 7 is fine. We were barely halfway to image limit.

>>96483709
I'm gonna make it whenever the fuck I want and you can deal with it, cunt.

>>96483710
>the redditor shits wherever he pleases

>>96483692
>You seem to operate off the idea it is still 2011.
based

>>96483764
Based redditors

>>96483480
Get locked in a room retard.

>>96483649
I made this just for you anon. I want you to refer back to it as often as necessary

>>96483836
>only one of my monocolored commanders is on the list
Nice.

>>96483794
needs to be a room

>>96483859
We're not going to see another room for like 5 years anon. New mechanics exist only for draft now. Adventure is the only mechanic in the last 6 years that actually saw prints in sets other than the one that introduced it. I wish I was fucking joking.

>opponent always picks me for fact or fiction
does this mean im the most dumbest

>>96483836
>People play monoR that means they're reaching for red in multicolor decks
Please continue embarrassing yourself though.

>>96483870
>New mechanics exist only for draft now
I hate how true this is. I desperately want more rad counter support, the only way to make it function is to run an assload of proliferate stuff, which feels so cheap

>>96483917
Does your head have any noticeable dents in it anon?

>>96483601
that's not what anon said, he said that red cards overall see less play because they are less splashable, not that monored isn't good.

>>96483924
Yes

>>96483870
>New mechanics exist only for draft now.
>now
If by “now”, you mean “for the majority of the game’s lifespan”, sure.

>>96483924
It's okay anon one day you'll understand gameplay fundamentals.

>>96483923
desu I'd love to see an actual magic set with a nuclear theme
Unfortunately wizards are terrified of guns, which rather takes the teeth out of what you'd expect such a plane to look like

>Kingpin didn't get a card
The fuck

>>96483957
Spider-Verse characters were too mainstream for Mark. He wanted to jerk off the comics more but Sony didn't let him.

>>96483955
You keep saying that when there's like 30+ cards with guns on them including in this set.

>>96483966
Huh?

How do you win with her?

>>96483947
Buddy I can't think of a time where ONE new mechanic in SIX years was the only one to be printed in other sets

>>96483870
Connive has been in three sets.

>>96483480
I really, really dislike them removing that rule. It made Hinder and Hallowed Burial so much fucking fun to use back in the day. It also reinforced the ethos back then where your deck usually wasn't solely designed to work with only your commander, and if it was you knew the risk.

>>96483994
curiosity

Should I build Zidane focusing more on the theft/gift aspect or go blink heavy for a more reliable gameplan?

>>96484034
I would say blink because I'm a flickerfag and it would give you better wincons.

>>96483994
There are a lot of ways, I generally try to make life totals zero.

https://archidekt.com/decks/12611334/yshtola_nights_blessed_self_discard

>>96484022
Absolute syntax salad trying to get this fucker to work, but there have been precisely 11 cards printed with Connive since SNC, and funnily enough most of them are in Spider-Man.
I have no fucking idea why Lethal Scheme isn't excluded by the term to limit number of prints to 1 but I don't care to learn.

https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3Aconnive+-set%3Asnc+-set%3Ancc+-set%3Apncc+-set%3Aplst+-set%3Aspg+-set%3Apsnc+numberofprints%3D1+-is%3Adigital&unique=cards&as=grid&order=color

>>96484034
Id probably take the best of both worlds. Been considering building him myself, just the 1-2 cost flicker spells and then the best costed theft ones

>>96483301
I would nut for official Monarch-themed Monarch tokens

>>96483994
Almost trivially easily, for the most part. Any draw engine and she can turn a deck full of mana rocks into pain and suffering for 3 players

Spiderman is the worst set since Aetherdrift. I know it hasn't even been a year, but still.

>>96484089
The syntax you're looking for is "o:"" anon. And way to goalpost move. The reason set mechanics haven't gotten a lot of reprints is because they're either straight dookie or godforsaken to reprint. Shit like Runes or Mutate, stuff that is a poor fit outside of their sets. This has been true of several stretches of MTG history tho, so worry not.

>>96484163
Honestly, it's the worst since the fucking Walking Dead cards, for me

>>96484163
Apparently anti-AI retards accused this artist of making this with AI so he had to dump all his preliminary attempts. Turns out he's just very good at doing vehicles or making flags make sense.

Anti-AI shit is so performative and they keep showing they already don't know the difference.

>>96484178
Fwiw I don't think it's AI, just sloppy artwork. The perspective on the flag is so wonky.

>>96484178
I didn't really have it pegged as AI, but it's a really fucked perspective like how sun-spider has a full blown midget arm.

But go off king. You tell the 'anti-AI retards' all about it, preferably in whatever thread they're in, far away from us.

>>96484169
>The syntax you're looking for is "o:"" anon
Yeah, great fucking idea. Then I get Streets of New Capenna, Streets of New Capenna Commander, Promo Streets of New Capenna, Promo Streets of New Capenna Commander, The List, Special Guest
You can look at the fucking syntax used, I was removing the set itself and all reprints of cards from that set.

If you do that, and exclude Spider-Man since it isn't even fucking out yet, there's precisely FOUR new cards with connive on them in the 3 years since Streets of New Capenna

>>96484194
And your argument was "nothing got reprinted" so maybe reallocate some brainpower from the Scryfall Syntax part of the brain to the Picking Better Positions in Internet Arguments part of the brain.

>>96483836
that drop off in monowhite deck numbers is pretty crazy

>>96483836
abdel/far traveler bros? oketrasisters?

>>96484202
>And your argument was "nothing got reprinted"
No my argument was you don't get new fucking cards with a recently introduced mechanic because WotC is printing new mechanics exclusively for a draft environment and they don't give a shit.

And I'm right. They printed it for New Capenna, and they never fucking brought it back in other sets. They just reprinted a select few cards for commander decks, and one-ofs in shit like Special Guest (it was Ledger Shredder btw, gee I wonder why they reprinted that one!) and Modern Horizons 3 which has almost every fucking key word in it somewhere.

Adventure is the only mechanic in the last 6 years that they have brought back as a core mechanic in subsequent sets. It was in Throne of Eldraine, then Baldurs Gate, then Wilds of Eldraine. It's the only fucking one, in SIX YEARS.
When do you think you're gonna see a set with rooms support? Or start your engines? Fucking never, because they exist only so WotC can jingle keys at draft players

>Be an artist in 2025
>Fuck up even once
>Art accused of being AI

>>96484236
Mounts have had two sets.

>>96484236
And this whole thread people have been telling you that not being reprinted under any circumstance has been the fate of most set mechanics, which you don't seem to get. Maybe because you're new to the game or only just started paying attention to this sort of thing or my personal bet, you watched a youtube video about someone talking about it and have that temporary "this is on my mind and I want to Discourse about it" behavior.

>>96484026
>>96484154
Oh duh.

Alright /edhg/, how am I winning with this chick? Simic has a wide open field of win conditions, so I'm open to funny answers.

>don’t really like commander but have a couple decks
>at my lgs and they ask me to fill out a pod, saying to play the strongest I have no restrictions
>I say okay I guess and play Vivi
>combo kill them all on turn 2 by Viving them out
>2 of them were super mad even though they said assume cedh

Commanderfags are such children

>>96484263
Posting the flip side so people have all the available information

>>96484255
I'm so bored of you making arguments you don't believe in. Why don't you try your "it's normal for mechanics to never come back though!!!" against this guy arguing that plenty of mechanics have come back >>96484249

>>96484247
Probably the worst part of AI. Artists who don't draw in a completely realistic style are now called AI.

>>96484280
Soulshift.
Haunt.
Sunburst.
Splice.

>>96484280
Let's look at it a different way: Aside from Adventures, what set mechanic has been worth reprinting?

>>96484299
Rads

>>96484247
It's what shitters deserve
Nobody cares if what you make looks good

rooms
battles
cases

>>96484288
I have a friend who's a professional artist who once did some work for another company who she didn't wanted to be publicly credited for personal reasons.

A lot of comments were asking if it were AI simply because the art had no credited artist...

>>96484247
It's all performative. These just want to white knight the art community by trying to make AI so toxic no one wants to touch it and their furry porn art mutuals on social media will stop crying.
It's one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.

The sentiment almost exclusively originates from artists making nonsense arguments to defend their income.
One of the most amusing to me was them saying that AI being trained to mimic an artist is stealing from them. As if real artists don't develop by copying other artists. As if you have any intellectual rights to a style that exclude all others from emulating it.
Ultimately AI is massively more convenient than paying some retard $1000 to work on something for weeks that might not even really be what you wanted by the end of it. So AI will win out, with these people white knighting the income of artists every step of the way

>>96484303
So, a product release that never had a draft set? That's it? I do agree with you, rads is an incredible mechanic that needs to get reprinted.

>morph
>megamorph
>manifest
>manifest dread
>cloak
what else

>>96484299
Battles. They’re an interesting card type

>>96484317
I'm not the guy you are arguing with. I'm just answering.

>>96484330
Oh, ok.

What is the worst designed card in the past few years?

IMO it’s Nadu. Nadu is such a miserable card, it’s mind blowing it was printed in that form

>>96484334
Vivi

>>96484335
Vivi is super strong but it just needed to be a bit weaker. Nadu creates non-deterministic combo turns that are impossible to track it’s genuinely horrific

>>96484269
oh my fucking god how did I miss this when building Pride of Hull Clade? I would suck your dick if I could, anon

>>96484341
I don't feel Nadu is immediately as broken at a first glance to someone designing and balancing. Anyone who even saw a preview of Vivi knew how busted he was even before anyone used him.

>>96484348
Supposedly these cards are playtested, and it would have become apparent immediately after nadu hits the board that it's out of hand.

>>96484334
Vivi is the most broken card we've seen in an extremely long time. I place it well above Nadu

>>96484348
Gavin knew Vivi was busted. He said there was a card that has cEDH viability during interviews before the set dropped.

>>96484357
Gavin should have remembered that FF was not a commander set.

>>96484354
Nadu was playtested in an earlier form. It granted flash to permanents and triggered its effect from enemy targeting spells and abilities. They removed the flash and scribbled the final text in at the last second to prevent it from being a dud in EDH. He wasn't playtested in this state.

>>96483381
Johnny come lately acting like we havent been waiting for page 10 for literally a decade
Sad

>>96483994
Phyresis 90% of the time

>>96484426
No other general I hang out in does this shit.

>>96484006
Cycling in Onslaught was literally the first time they brought back a set mechanic. Ten years into the game's lifespan. After that, we wouldn't see a mechanic come back again until Dissension brought back split cards from Invasion block, which was roughly six years prior.

>Friend told me to use more lands and less mana rocks
>Told him no
>He stuff his deck full of artifact removal
Fucker

>>96484486
He warned you and you chose not to listen.

>find out recently my brother-inlaw got into edh
>makes a deck for his wife
>I make a deck for mine
>power level is all over the place
>I try to explain that we have a really good opportunity to teach our wives mtg fundamentals by introducing ideas like card advantage, mana curves, playing around removal, threat assessment via deck building choices.
>we never need to arms races because only two of us are even building decks
>we have the opportunity here to a really open and interesting meta
>im losing him
>his eyes glaze over
>yeah so anyway I got the sonic cards
>did you see shadow lol he gives everything split second
I think we might be very different edh players. Any tips for keeping this group from imploding?

>>96484450
Congratulations for adding nothing of value to this conversation

>>96484486
If your friend is a YouTuber he’s a fucking stupid one

>>96484511
Have sex with your brothers wife

>>96484486
Build Avacyn and give him noogies with your indestructible artefacts

>UB
GRRR >:(

>UB but Japan
:D YAAAY

>>96483249 (OP)
>tq

Dark OSR style dungeon plane. Not gay zoomie souls Warhammer overblown anime shit with muh 1000 ft goffik cathedrals and 20 ft swords, I want golden age fantasy aesthetic in a dark and dreary labyrinth with forlorn warriors stalking oppressive halls in search of vain hopes or forbidden truths and coming up against horrific and frightening enemies, like Vermis or Fear and Hunger.

>>96484334
Vivi. Getting +1/+1 for casting noncreature spells is fine. Pinging for spells is fine. Getting mana based on power is fine. Getting all 3 for 3 mana is fine. Essentially at that point Vivi was just an updated Mizzix and would be a fun, strong but fair spellslinger Commander. But not having to tap for that mana production and it costing zero to activate? Absolute retardation.

>>96484334
I don't even think Nadu should have been banned. It got banned in EDH for its sins in Modern.

>>96484238
BASED

I'm trying to make this guy work as a 1v1. Lots of bounce and counter-spells. Might post my deck later.

>>96484564
wait a second

>can't use Pictures of Spider-Man in a JJJ Deck
But...He needs them.

>>96484163
It is a double fail. It sucks as both a magic AND Spider-Man set.

>>96484605
Now you're getting it.

>>96484605
>ub but fitting fantasy setting
lotr, ff, (+ DND)
>ub but unfitting non fantasy setting
everything else

Kinda crazy that they made Web-Slinging a theme in Spider-Man but gave it no real payoffs.

Crazy that they didn’t give mayhem any payoffs either.

Villains payoff is fucking Mysterio? Doc Ock just makes them bigger.

>>96484718
I think his edh ban is justified under the precedent of paradox engine. New players who don't know how to sequence a non deterministic combo could make some miserable half hour turns that end in them losing to the crackback, and no one wants that experience.

>>96484718
Nadu was a problem in cEDH too.

>>96483518
please god no resurrect my bro Lukka so he can hate crime the bleed of weeaboo trash art into the game

>>96484767
Wouldn't ATLA fit then?

>>96484767
>ummmm FF fits fantasy
FF15 is modern as fuck. As is FF7.

>>96484784
They don't make bans off cEDH

>>96484797
This card fucks by the way.

>>96484605
capeshit bad

>>96484797
It still fits because even the techier FFs are still magitech settings, where people who live in skyscrapers have swordfights. And Magic already did that with New Capenna.

>>96484605
the hallmark for tolerable UB is simple: could you by changing the name and flavor text pass it off as a UW card?
If yes, it's good, if no it's bad, simple as

Pic related is a good example of tolerable UB

>>96484823
People who play magic because fantasy don't care about the game itself.

>>96484826
Aesthetics are as relevant to a game as its mechanics
People who fail to understand this are probably communists

>>96484833
or hardcore capitalists of the type who dreamt up spider man crossover (if I ever use any card from that set I'm doing the arena proxie because fuck everything about that entire set)

>>96483249 (OP)
>TQ: What concept, theme or background do you want Magic to do? How would you like to see it done?
Alternate universe/timeline where thr good guys are evil and vice versa. Call the set Shadowy Visions or something, to go with the reversed moralities theme. Give us reverse Dominaria where Karn is evil and has to be stopped by the holy phyrexians. Teferi is Dimir. Yawgmoth is white. Urza is mono black or rakdos.

For over a decade I always said wild west set but then we got it and it sucked. I feel if we got a wild west plane before they dropped the block system it would have been epic.

>>96484769
Web-slinging at least synergizes with station. Which is good, because a problem with the set is it feels like it wasn't designed with the idea of fitting into the standard meta.

>>96484605
when we get an Atlus UB and it's just Persona 5 you'll see how true that is or isn't

>>96484855
They'll have a lot of P4 in there as well.

>>96484841
This is a philosophical point I do not have time to fully elaborate on at present but tldr the capitalist does not actually care about the health of the system either way, he merely wishes to extract profit from it irrespective of externalities (like how fun the game is to play), whereas the communist believes the system can be "rationalised", that anything which cannot be defended by dialectic has no value.

>>96484794
NTA but I consider ATLA to be a good fit for magic if we must do UB. It's a world of spiritualism, adventure, tradition, prophecies and destiny. It's much closer to old magic than Aetherdrift.

I'd honestly be much more chill about UB being a thing if it was just stuff like LOTR and ATLA.

>>96484855
"nothing better to combat spider slop than my subway slammer deck"

>>96484794
ATLA is like 1 degree of separation from just being Tarkir without dragons or undead and a bunch of mixed up animals instead

>>96484868
which is why it's such a shame Fallout was the bethesda UB instead of TES
that said Avatar does suffer from one thing: too much spam of the same character
Sure we were getting Katara, nothing wrong with that, but why in the name of all that's holy do we get 5 different god damn Katara cards

>>96484875
Personally it's characters for each book/season in the main set and a bunch of mono colored ones in the starter products

>>96484875
Is there 5 Kataras? I thought I only saw 2 but desu this shit comes out so fast now I dont even know any more bro

I did notice no Korra cards, probably keeping that up their sleeves for thr sequel set lol

>>96484794
categorically yes, but it just doesn't feel right in my heart

>>96484884
regardless of what you think of Korra, it really should have been included, especially if they're doing the same character multiple times

there's 5 kataras, 2x pure U, pure W (the absolute fuck), Azorius and a generic doubler Bant

even Aang sofar only has 4 cards, Toph has 2, someone way up the design team has himself a waifu

>>96484901
Katara is hot so I am good with it. Hope we get a gooner printing of her.

>>96483480
I am one of the bigger UB haters in my group so I'm seething as monoblack removal dot removal player because the art and name sucks but paper reads so good.

>>96484875
if the UB was TES they could just remake every TESL card in MTG...

>>96484797
ff is weeaboo cringe and the alternate arts they have gave me cancer

>>96484917
With you on the alt arts
And the art for the human characters generally
The weird 3D-anime hybrid look is unpleasant in itself and clashes violently with other magic art.

>>96484963
>>96484945
woops

>>96484917
>so good
Its middling at best

I'm not going to let any UB-Hater use proxies of the arena versions

>>96484963
if wotc could calm down with the alt arts and save them for an occasion like they did with amonkhet arts that would be great

>>96484969
unconditional non-destruction targeting removal on instant speed is rare for mono black and the context of my opinion is mono black.
It's good because it fills a very specific niche hole that was just kinda filled by archenemy charm (and overkill from FF set now that I think about it) but you can cast the spot off from non swamp manasource and apply cost reduction vs BBB.

>>96483501
unless they make it an enchantment or steal it, then there's nothing you can do

>>96484917
That card isn't even good design. Putting creatures on top or the bottom of the library is a white or blue effect. Black cares about outright murdering creatures or torturing them to death via -1/-1 counters. Like always, UB is trash and not real Magic.

>>96485088
Just wait until they give black artifact removal lol

>>96485094
Good.

>>96485088
My main counterpoint would be that previously this was considered a drawback (well, mostly for blue, because aside from Spin Into Myth your opponent had to let it go to the bottom), but now with the myriad of death triggers (and now, exile triggers), shuffling into the deck is now the most desirable form of removal.
It's also very similar to how blue's humble effects (e.g. Witness Protection) were previously considered bad because they left your opponent with a body, and if they really cared about the text on the card, they could remove the enchantment. However because of commanders and the command zone, they became extremely desirable by comparison.

>>96485107
black had artifact removal in antiquities and they STOLE IT from us

shelobbros... we're fucked

>>96485124
It's not about being better or worse removal. It's just something black doesn't do. Green is the color of big dumb creatures. If some UB set gave big green creatures flying it would still be wrong, even though they are just improving on what green does best.

>>96483249 (OP)
I have that card, she's cute so I always want to put her in a deck but she's one of the first to get cut

>>96485151
Wasn't some nerd here saying they don't print cards that hose the main tribe of a set in the set?.

>>96485162
The problem is that "black is good at killing creatures" conflicts directly with "the color bad at killing creatures is actually better at it now because their drawback became an upside."

>>96485162
Yeah it would be weird if green got a really big flier.

>>96485142
"Had" does a lot of lifting when the whole history is literally just 3 cards from antiquities, mirage and the dark.

>>96485212
And I just learned I have been reading ashes to ashes wrong my whole life. I have kept reading it as "non-creature artifacts" so yeah its 2 cards and I'm blind

>>96483836
mono reds commander options are popular because they are fun to play, and because they turbo charge their respective strategies, making the decks often often very reliant on the commander itself.
>mono red popular ergo the color itself is akshually very good
yeah, be very proud of your say_nothing_shitstain.jpg

>>96483994
you do the thing (drain life)
and draw card

>>96484868
>It's a world of spiritualism, adventure, tradition, prophecies and destiny.
And, you know, all the magic.

cowards

is kamahl fist of krosa flash creatures a bracket 4 deck?

>>96485290
Almost certainly not unless its nothing but tutors and combos

>>96485290
Where's the synergy between Kamahl and flash? Do you have a list?

>>96485290
Does it have any two card combos?
Does it loop extra turns?
Does it have more than 3 cards from the GC list?

If you answered yes to any of these, then the answer to your question is also yes.

>>96485308
it's just an idea before committing. flash means I can leave mana open to kamahl's land animation ability if someone wipes
>>96485307
>>96485316
no combos, no nothing. just trying to kill their lands

what do you call this expression

>>96485323
"my pain is greater than yours"

>>96485319
I built a Kamahl deck. It's literally just ramp and untap effects. You would be suprised how consistently you can win with that strategy. But beware of destroying lands with his ability. It leads to much hurt feelings. I don't use it anymore at opponent's lands.

If you see this card at a bracket 3 pod what do you do?
I'm trying to adapt but all I see is a deck that doesnt like being interacted with and an obscene amount of incidental card draw

>>96485368
Kill the commander?

>>96485368
I cast fungal fortitude

>>96485368
Pick up my cards an leave. I rather play with the magic boomers than some cargo pants wearing literal autist, who may or may not have sexual fantasies involving hedgehogs.

>>96485379
BASED

>>96485319
>just trying to kill their lands
MLD is bracket 4 and if you're destroying lands enough to deny people their mana then that probably would count

>>96485370
How much removal should I be playing? I gotta kill this fucker like 3 or 4 times before he stays off the board

Who is your next commander? Tell me. I wanna know.

>>96485385
Your opponent is paying 8 mana to recast him and hasn't lost?

>>96485368
I frankly wouldn't play against that garbage with a bracket 3 deck.

>>96485388
Yeah, the deck is full of treasures and ramp Bracket 3 isn't exactly super fast. .
Scam cards and sac outlets are also annoying cause they almost certainly have split second.

>>96485386
I'm rebuilding my first commander Vorodh the Hunter for my bracket 2 meta.
I'm trying for an unconventional control deck, fogs instead of boardwipes, all of the vow/goad cards and tap/bounce instead of kill.

>>96485399
>Deck burns its treasure mana for the 8 mana commander
Again I reiterate my question of how this isn't game-losing unless you're a moron not looking at his board the entire game.

>>96485410
You end up spending your turns killing it over and over again. Frankly hes not really paying 8. He's probably reanimating it at that point
hes card neutral thanks to his ability
Ur going down in cards trading 1 for 1, or losing any board you have to a wipe while again hes drawing
The whole thing is a mess

>>96485410
Anon you don't pay commander tax fir scam cards

>>96485426
Wow that was really hard.

>>96485399
>ramp and treasures means bracket 4
lmfao

>>96484222
Unsurprisingly the best hoverslut commander is a more popular choice than an unfun wad of shit like Light-Paws.

>>96485460
Woosh

>>96485455
How many effects like this are there, Ima give it a shot

>>96485386
I keep brewing decks but they're all just deck archetypes I already have and the newer commanders we've been getting are just the same shit we've gotten a dozen times or wildly uninteresting and/or too weak.

>>96485386
Senor Negativo

>>96485476
My man, there are tons and in basically every color.

>>96485386
Senor Negativo

What's her deck, /edhg/?

>>96485383
I'm not the one destroying them tho. just holding the table hostage if someone wants to wipe my dinky flash creatures that I can then pump for lethal

>>96485476
every color except red. blue has most and green second most

>>96485532
Retards will really see there being 5 total rules for a casual format and still try to angleshoot them because they have zero impulse control.

>>96485542
The point of brackets is to angleshoot

>>96485476
Lots. They're very good against stuff like this (and most other things).

You have to be careful though because they don't work versus certain creatures due to the layer system like this nigga.

>>96479053
Man I wanna believe in them, though. They're cool, a bit fancy, and a lot of them have cool or interesting effects that draw my eye even if they aren't competitive. When I had Sidar Jabari, I was using Raffine as one of the only non-knights and she was completely fucking nuts, though, so that is a thought to keep in the back pocket for when I need a deck that cares about discard/connive again.
>>96478676
>>96478669
So, Eowyn does seem interesting.
>Unusual Knight colors
>No black so I can save my black knights for a different deck
>Makes tokens
>is a knight herself
>most knights I care about are human anyway
>lets me draw card
>probably adores extra combats

>>96485622
why did they make her LOOK like THAT

>>96485635
There was a monster behind her

>>96485641
You know what I mean. Also the action lines make no sense here, she's contorted in all the wrong ways.

>>96485534
>>96485498
Imprison in the moon and song of the dryads are the only ones that come to mind. The fuck are you guys on??

>>96485689
Lignify, Darksteel Mutation

>>96485692
One can be freed with any boardwipe or blocking a sufficiently large creature, the other with half the boardwipes or by saccing.
The other two enchantments are particularly nasty cause many decks don't have many ways to interact with enchantments and even less for lands. Lignify and darksteel mutation are child's play in comparison.

Also lmao at "there are tons" and "in every colour".

>>96485702
Are you retarded?

>>96485708
Are you? Are three cards "a ton"? Are three colours all colours? No, the effect is incredibly rare, especially if you don't include the enchantments that turn something into a useless creature which might or might not solve the problem.

>>96485722
>ummm im gonna just ignore all these cards and narrow it down to 3 so I can be correct
So you are retarded.

>>96485006
>>96485124
Nah like I am letting you know its not very good. You could type 50 more paragraphs its simply not good,. I was being nice now shut the fuck up UBTourist lmao
>>96485319
Then yes, obviously, you dont even need to ask you fucking moron. Kill yourself.
>>96485587
Genuinely only a low IQ or non white person could hold this view. Which is it?
>>96485722
Easily off the top of my head i can think of about 15 of these cards across many colors

>>96485622
>Knights are cool
Traditional retardation from childhood. Let it go.
>A bit fancy
Faggot.
>A lot of them have cool or interesting effects
Name fucking 5 knights in those colors that "draw your eye" or whatever. I have a feeling they're all fucking terrible or retarded. Make sure they are human or else they don't synergize.

>>96485689
>UBTourist only knows the most popular of cards and is completely incapable of using scryfall to find the myriad of comparable options
DIE UBTOURIST DIE
>>96485469
Gaida is not fun you stupid nigger lmao.

>>96485825
Adeline
Adriana
Ambitious Farmhand
Benalish Honor Guard
Dauntless Bodyguard
Dawnstrike Vanguard
Dion
Embereth Skyblazer/Shield/Veteran
Tons of LOTR cards. I got board. Tons of good knights lol

>>96485827
You can always play a hipster angel waifu for angel tribal if you're too cool to play the one everyone else is playing, just don't act surprise when the deck struggles.

>>96485825
Chieftain en-Dal, Embereth Shieldbreaker, Eowyn Fearless Knight, Haythem Kenway, Herald of Hoofbeats, Marton Stromgald, Order of the Sacred Torch, Northern/Southern Paladins, Paladin Taggerdy, Riders of Rohan, Riders of the Mark, Suppressor Skyguard, Sworn Defender, Varchild's Crusader

>>96485888
>options so bad he just wants keyword soup

>4 mana 4/4 keyword soup
>pseudo 6/6
>draw engine in the command zone
>wincon in the command zone
>cute girl artwork
>more unpopular than even Loot
why does nobody like her?

>>96485827
What are some of those cards in grixis?
Obviously imprison but what else?

>>96485922
she sucks

>>96485922
Hmmm
Maybe I'll try to build her

>>96485923
Learn how to use scryfall UBTourist.

>>96485934
I didnt find anything in red or black
Just sounds like you are being the worst combination of pompous and wrong

>>96485922
>4 drop
>protection is a meme
>"draw engine"
>"wincon"
lmao dude you're so bad if you think she's good. worse than sw*rdbitch levels of bad.

>>96485941
Damn bro that sucks for you cause this is the main form of removal i use in my grixis deck and i have around 12 options. I think the UBTourist just doesnt know the card pool very well or how to use the resources available to find them

>>96485947
>game with 40,000 individual cards
>if you don't know these ultra specific non-standard removal pieces in each color you're a UBtourist
God I hate modern children, none of you have the self-awareness to speak to me.

>>96485950
Run along now tourist and play with scryfall til you find them. Little protip! Blue has more of these effects than any other color so if you can only find 2 in grixis youre actually retarded.

>>96485947
>i run 12 sorcery speed targeted psudo removal spells
That list sounds trash and also 1000% doesnt exist

>>96485956
My pod is incredibly commander dependent. These are by far the best form of removal for those kinds of decks, if it stays on for 2 turns (commander tax) its done the same as removal, and any longer than that is pure upside. Not to mention quite a few of the options in question are not limited to sorcery speed ;) learn the card pool UBTourist

>>96485969
No it isnt, because they dont exist
Neither do these cards or your deck
L M A O

>>96485975
Sure thing UBTourist. Not naming any cards for you ;)

>>96486009
literally not a card

>>96485947
Dawg, idk how much you are stretching the definition but black maybe has a sudden spoiling or two, not even the same card but w/e and red has nothing.
And you are 100% not playing vraska, that literally does the opposite of what you are looking for

>>96485923
Here, this site will help.
It's not perfect but it will give you a good idea of what phrases to search
https://www.mtgassist.com/search.php?similar_to=Imprisoned%20in%20the%20Moon&results_number=0

>>96486012
what
>>96485909
>focus on a tribe that likes to attack
>commander makes aggro tokens
>not wanting keywords
what?

>>96485969
I take it back
I found em
Damn there are actually a lot.
Thanks anon

>>96486064
>didnt read the chain
>responds anyway
You literally are the worst poster here

>>96486082
>didn't read the chain
there's like... 3 posts in that chain anon. Someone mentioned no one commenting on Amphibian Downpour, to which someone called it "literally not a card". I provided that it is a card, nothing more. What drugs are you on?

>>96485922
believe it or not, people sometimes want a challenge building and piloting a deck, rather than relying on goodstuff.slp

not that Temur Loot is either of that, but i guess he is more popular, because exile value is popular, and he has that very mild multi type puzzle to work with, that tickles the Temur Brains out there juuuust enough to be compelling and proud of (my Solemn Simulacrum counts both as a creature AND an artifact!!! :OOO)

>>96486096
You are correct in you assessment but still someone failed to notice the post you replied to was mocking my post

>>96485982
Again I want to say thanks for putting me down this path
I feel like I finally have some tuck replacements

>>96486116
>cape attached to pectoral ring piercings
Old magic was in a league of edge all its own

>>96486120
Oh no, i'm retarded
fuk..
>>96486116
I don't know if you're being ironic, but doesn't Maraxus only count Artifact Creatures once?

>>96485520
ANSWER ME

>>96486009
How does the timing of this work with equipment?
Lets say someone has a darksteel plate equiped
I imagine it loses indestructibility

>>96486174
Discovery is 89% of the fun
I wouldnt want to take that from you

>>96486129
i've never even noticed that, holy shit

>>96486174
Seems like you're going wide and being aggressive. Take your pick of the colors, and make sure you have some low end stuff you don't mind bouncing back for the Web-slinging cost.

>>96486184
>>96486204
My "discovery" lead me to a basic Human tribal, so I'm looking around to see whether other people had different ideas.

>first EDH game in like 5 years
>last game was played with cards no older than 2017, mostly from Scars of Morrison block
>make Alania Otter/spellslinger deck
>have the Outlaws of thunder junction Efreet that lets me copy my spells copies and copy my “whenever an instant or sorcery causes a trigger”
>cast a brainstorm and copy it three times, giving all my shit prowess twice, and pumping them +4/+4 thanks to having two valley flood callers
>get overwhelmed and mentally drained from all this shit


I think I’m gonna build a cheap tier 2 mono green Yeva. My INFJ brain cannot comprehend the high INTJ IQ required to manage all these triggers. Left early anyway cause I had dance class. Other players tell me that she’s really powerful, but I might just take her out or rework the deck with less otters and more generic Instants and sorceries and prowess

Also
>australian lands player with a George Michael cross earring (singular) corrected me when I called the Efreet a she instead of a they

>>96486149
oh boy
>reading comprehension
Maraxus was more of an Example for the first line, the second line is about another commander

>>96486215
Since you basically don't have a working brain I recommend checking out edhrec.

>>96486216
>scars of Morrison
Scars of Mirrodin*

>opponent swinging an unblockable 21/5 sol’kanar at me
>sphinx rev for 7 leaving a mana open to try to spin up a swords
>check my hand again
>nothing, except for the cyclonic rift Ive had since my opening seven
FUCK

>>96486220
Hurtful. I will.

>>96486216
the last 3 years or so, they really pumped up all the booking style effects and commanders, all shit that should have stayed in a digital game. Izzet is especially bad with this, picrel is also infamously sucky to play against, watching the player struggle to count all the Prowess and Prowess Prowess triggers again and again each round

>>96486237
>booking style
bookkeeping*

>>96486225
shoudda woudda coudda mulligan'd, mullicunt

>>96484847
You may get your wish if last year's product surveys are any indication

>>96486216
You can at least feel vindicated that according to the wiki, pulling from the introduction to many of the legendary creatures from Strixhaven, Veyran is referred to as she/her.

>>96486225
>not rev for 6
???

>>96486269
Ye or just overload it but I fukkin goofed

>>96486216
Get a spindown dice for prowess triggers, and another spindown for storm count. Actually uptick them as you cast spells. Then it's very easy!

>>96486237
>>96486241
Do niggas not use d6 dice to track this shit? It's simple shit. Cast spell, uptick all d6 dice +1 or +2 accordingly.

>>96486308
Having recently begun to play izzet, I can say that between prowess, Balmor, storm count, treasure tokens, +1+1 counters, cards drawn this turn, floating mana, and other miscellaneous triggers it's very easy to run out of dice.

>>96486308
We did, but the issue arose when determining if the copies counted as casts and other non-prowess triggers like pic rel and the Efreets personal trigger. I also had token copies of the otters that pumped otters and/or had prowess thanks to Alania’s effect which also could trigger a total of 9 times thanks to the copy being copied by the Efreet (three instants, three sorceries, and three otters)

It was super overwhelming for my first game and I realized quickly that having both alania and the Efreet was a mistake for everyone. I gave most of the extra “gift” cards from alania to the girl who explained it to me and the cloud pre on player cause he kept getting his big equipped creatures qioed by my triple burn spells and bounces (I bounced 6 creatures with Calamitous Floodtide at instant speed thanks to pic rel)


This otter seems really really strong as he can cheat in surprise sorceries and artifacts, get copied, gives another prowess trigger, and turns my spells into combat tricks. I was waiting to instant speed mizzium mortars for like 12 but I had an appointment and I didn’t want to wait another 10 minutes for the Aussie to play his 6 lands, draw a card for each one he played, and do nothing but make elemental tokens (he discarded 5 cards one turn cause he had too many)

If I copy a spell, that’s not a cast right? I don’t get double prowess from a hard cast a copy?

We did use a spin die and it helped but I felt like my prowess Lightshell Duo had way more that +4/+4 after I played 4 instant/sorceries, copied 2 of them twice (8 in total) plus the trigger of pic rel (twice cause I make a token copy with Alania) AND the Efreet copying the prowess/pic rel trigger

I really think I could’ve wipe d them all with mizzium mortars, then swing in with some 16/16 otters if I had a few more islands. I got mountain flooded.

>>96486338
Kek? You serious? Like these fucking things are sold at all lgs stores and having 2 should be all you need for even the craziest of games.

>>96486381
copies of spells are not cast. Aka, if you fork a spell, the copy is just put on the stack and isnt cast.

Copies of cards put on the stack are cast. Such as using isochron scepter.

MTG is very literal, it will explicitly say if you are "casting".

Veyran, and anyone with magecraft, dont care about the distinction. Hence why magecraft says when you "COPY or CAST"


Player A casts Bolt, you cast Fork on their bolt. Veyran sees both you casting the fork for a trigger, and also sees the fork resolving and putting a copy of bolt on the stack for a trigger.

Veyran will also double her triggers. so in this above scenario Veyran get +2/+2 for casting fork, and then an additional +2/+2 for copying bolt.

>>96485386
Rendmaw. Seems like it has the potential to really change the game up

>>96486429
>tfw you play Slivers with the whole gang in the deck
>tfw regularly run out of dice due to Legion
And before anyone says it, I don't give a fuck if slivers are bad, or weak, or toxic, or whatever else. I have fun playing them.

>>96486457
you rock those slivers anon.

>>96486457
>he needs dice to track a coat of arms effect
Really? You just count how many slivers you have and subtract 1 and thats how much power/toughness each sliver has.

>>96486481
With just Legion, sure, but when I have a bunch of others like Muscle who also throw more counters into the mix (as well as opponents trying to weaken my stuff), I like to use dice to keep track.

>>96486488
Given that slivers all effect each slivers you should only need a few dice to track the pluses on each creature. Unless you only have like 5 dice with you I don't know how you run out of dice. That is unless you are mathematically illiterate.

>>96485225
Bad decks don't get popular on EDHREC, simple as. Maybe once in a blue moon something is higher in the rankings than it should be just by virtue of being novel or unique, but do you really expect me to accept that the top monored commanders are more popular than their other color equivalents by thousands just because you subjectively say they're "fun"?

>>96486415
This guy seems pretty good

Commons and uncommoms really are the souls of the game. There’s no pressure to make anything grand or flashy. Just world building and freedom for artists to depict it without the pressure of it being a big-wig legend. I miss how core sets had so much classic high-fantasy. I

>>96483836
>tfw only commander in pic is Marrow-Gnawer
I built him right as EDH started kicking off because I had him from kamigawa, and he's still fun

>>96483836
Surprised Urza isn't the top mono commander desu

>>96484875
There will definitely be an Elder Scrolls UB set anon. A full set

It's the unannounced UB property I am most confident about, over 80%. They've already worked with Bethesda/Microsoft and it is free money for the latter, plus generates hype for Elder Scrolls 6

>>96486649
As much as people say the decks on EDHREC aren't real and they're just people experimenting, I think there's something to be said for budget.
The best thing red has going for it is that it's an extremely budget color and there's only a few staples for red decks that get to $40. Urza artifact slop will run you hundreds of dollars easily.

Red is the weakest color in what I would describe as "ordinary casual" commander. It is powerful in cedh because of its ability to turbo combo, and okay in true random pile of cards games, but it fails in the middle of the range.

Commander inherently weakens Red's aggressive potential because lifetotals were set too high, which means that every game is about ramping, drawing cards/generating resources, or combo. Everything else is horrible. Red has bad ramp, weird card draw that doesn't work right, and removal that fails to kill most important things because it's balanced for magic in general.

>>96486667
>lifetotals were set too high
Fuck off ritualposter

>>96486656
>"humorous" custom card

>>96486656
>0 toughness
>play it
>dies with no opportunity to activate his ability

>>96486673
It is correct. Most magic cards were balanced around 20 life, and that's still true for in general. That means that a ton of strategies are just not viable with 40 starting life and 3 other opponents. Commander damage isn't actually a fix.

25 or 30 life would work much better. I'd actually set it at 20 but it would make too many people mad.

I'm having a hard time adapting to the format as it's become.

>>96486661
Urza is fun to play, I love my artifact slop. Poorfags get the rope.

>>96486579
fuck yeah, that Artwork makes me wanna build some Voltron shit

>>96486683
>most cards were balanced around 20 life total
And having one opponent lowering it, not three. If anything 40 isnt high enough. You are low IQ

>>96486693
I'm having a hard time because my opponents keep using coomer proxies, knowing full well they distract me

>>96486683
>Most magic cards were balanced around 20 life
They were also balanced around only having 1 opponent.
>a ton of strategies are just not viable with 40 starting life and 3 other opponents
The fact you think it's a 1v3 format and not a 1v1v1v1 is so telling
>I'd actually set it at 20 but it would make too many people mad.
Yeah, when Standard games are commonly over by turn 3 or 4, what could possibly fucking go wrong?
Your head has dents in it, sir.

>>96486721
You’re a very stupid person and bad at magic. The designers of the format set lifetotals at 40 specifically to make after impossible so people could play huge later game cards. That’s why it was called Elder Dragon Highlander. They succeeded, aggro is horrible and not remotely viable in EDH

>>96486727
>using coomer proxies is akin to sexy spray paint in counter strike

Will the autists at my LGS refuse to play if I want this lamb as my commander?

It's card draw, minor life gain, and has a second "life" in the command zone. It might be broken but I'm not sure.

>>96486177
It would lose indestructible until you equipped darksteel plate to something else than re-equipped since timestamp

>>96486734
>they set life to 40
>thats why its called EDH
You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. Aggro has always been viable even in cedh.

>>96486656
They should give us a full standard/edh legal MLP set. Imagine the shitstorm it would cause.

Yeah sorry you guys clearly don’t understand what is actually good in commander or how it works. I started playing a lot of cedh since I’m a spike and honestly combo is the only viable strategy. Resource generating soup with combo and more all in combo are the archetypes. Everything else is bad. The principles that cause that to be the case remain in more casual commander but the decks are weaker

>>96486744
I agree but partially because I am a ponyfag and have been since I was a little girl.

They won’t though

>>96486683
>what is commander damage??????

>>96486667
I think giving red more goad and Assault Suit style cards like Slicer and Alexios is the right call to simultaneously keep aggro alive while staying in red's color pie at least for non-cEDH.

>>96486750
>since I was a little girl.
*boy
You will never ben an alicorn

>>96486738
It's not broken, it's just tacky

>>96486746
Combo isnt even the only viable strategy in cedh you gigatard

>>96486746
any one else just hearing faint fart noises when reading this shit?

>>96486764
It basically is. That’s the win condition. Some decks generate a lot of resources first using partner since it’s broken but others are more all in. Edhfags cope more than anyone else sadly

>>96486750
>WOTC is owned by Hasbro
>Hasbro loves sucking money out of things when they're desperate
>Hasbro (presumably) knows MLP has a huge adult male autismo following
Never say never. I am willing to bet we'll get some goofy anime or MLP crossover at some point.

>>96486772
>it basically is
So it isnt is what you are saying, which I dont need you fo agree with as I too play cedh, I attend tournaments whenever I can. Additionally it literally is an irrelevant statement when most games arent 4 combo players
>b-bb-but I think its the best!
You'll very quickly get aggro'd out if you bring a casual combo deck to a casual table with non combo players

>>96486764
The only deck I can think of that isnt combo is edric and even that plays combos

>>96486777
We've already had MLP cards anon

>>96486772
>>96486746
>running a two card combo, or even multiple ones, and dedicating the rest of the 97 to finding and protecting yourself and your wincon is clearly the single best and maybe even sole S Tier strategy, why wont ANYONE in here understand this but me?

Everyone understands this very basic principle, you sad mongoloid no games larping as a "mfw too intelligent".
we need a containment board and a whole official containment format for these drooling cEDHtards thinking they bring anything of value into the discussion or any given table not filled with deranged sociopaths who take a causal format too serious.

>>96486841
That's not a full set, and they're not legal. I'm saying they can print 100 or so MLP cards for a full set that are legal for play.

>lucky starting town pulled from play booster
Would it be overkill if I were to put it on 3-color deck with two 1-cost mono color spells?

>>96486884
Playing UB is cringe.

>>96486884
Why the fuck would it be? Are you retarded?

>>96486884
>pedo game card
Ewee

TVTH NVKE:

If mill doesn't matter because "you might never have drawn those cards", then as long as I'm not playing anything that would cause cards to go to the top or bottom of my library, then I can shuffle my deck at any time, no?

>>96486847
There are people denying combo is the only truly viable strategy right above you anon. This started because I said red/aggro is structurally weakened by the design of Edh, which is why red is bad outside of cedh.

>>96486738
People barely agree on rules as is, just run it in the 99 instead of being a sperg

>>96486918
>then I can shuffle my deck at any time, no?
As long as you don't have anything manipulating your deck it actually doesn't matter statistically