Thread 96485407

Legend edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL

>Previous Thread: >>96453718

>TQ: What is the miniature you have that hate the most, for whatever reason?

>>96485407 (OP)
I heard he came from space

>buy a proont of the Lost Kingdoms Bretonnian BSB
>realize it's a woman
>into the trash it goes
Kept the banner though

>>96485414
he really didn't, he was born on the world

>>96485428
Just like (You)

>>96485362
That's not what I said. Abhorash is a terrible judge of character. He knew Walach for their entire mortal adult lives and look at how Walach turned out.
Judging a servant of the, and I can not stress this enough, RUINOUS POWERS as a person with less than desirable traits isn't a hard job. The god of betrayal, the god of rot, the god of unending hunger, or the god of unrestrained violence.
Look at a Nurgle worshiper and tell me this a person you want to be around, it doesn't take a strong judge of character to reject chaos worshipers.

>>96485428
I'm pretty sure Kremlo came from space. That's like the one thing everyone knows.

>>96485405
I don't see how this is a response to what I said.

>>96485420
I have no idea why creators nerf their sales like that

>>96485461
And everyone is wrong

I claim this thread, and bretonian wombs for the breyherds

>>96485645
breh

>>96485407 (OP)
Thoughts?

>>96485671
Cathay numba wan

>>96485671
Seeing Empire so high feels like a fever dream

>>96485671
>cathay
>exiles
>nuln

>>96485671
Look, I'm glad that TOW has brought back interest in the game for so many people that couldn't play warhammer without specific approval by GW; but I'm kind of saddened that the vast majority of the conversation regarding the hobby are extremely technical and suffer from the videogamification of the hobby.

Stats, arguing about updates and patches, arguing (and not discussing) about rules, continuous bitching about list building and list optimization. The main content online (that isn't painting) is mostly competitive or pseudo competitive shit.

At least when the game was "dead" the people that stuck with it really seemed to stick out of love.

But maybe I'm just getting old, and becoming now like those oldbeards that would complain of similar things (did they?) On portent/warseer, dakka and similar places. I have my own group and we play the way we enjoy it; but it saddens seeing what the situation is out there.

>>96485704
Despite most of their units not being great, it turns out cannons and steam tanks, and Demigryph knights can take down anything

>>96485671
I think tourneyfaggotry needs to die.

>>96485721
While I agree with the disdain for tourney faggotry I think winrates are pretty important to show overall balance of the game. I don't play competively but I at least want a chance of winning. If a faction has almost 70% winrate while others are barely winning a third of their games there is a problem.

>>96485671
I find it weird that an army as strong and easy to play as Brets is that low. Also didn’t one of the guys in the video say like 5% of Cathays wins were from one playtester getting in a bunch of games in the first week they were out?

>>96485671
"""win rates""" contributed to the T-sportification and overall decline of 40k, set the groundwork for the 3 year cycle, paved the way for and ushered in a bunch of tourneyfags with their L-shaped clear perspex ruins on MDF bases and burning desire to enshittify a tabletop game so they could pretend they were competing in tournaments with balanced games where their wins demonstrated something, and now you want to bring all of that to TOW? No thanks. Show me your dudes and tell me of their recent exploits.

>>96485721
The tourneys in my yuro country use official scenarios and legacy armies but also maintain well-painted terrain and fun fluffy armies are encouraged. It all depends on where you live. America seems very into competitive shit

Tow just isn’t built for narrative games imo

>>96485804
WHFB just isn't in general. The abilities have always been very game-y and about killing the enemy and not really narrative focused.

>>96485721
It's not that you're old it's that you're low IQ.

>>96485787
throw these "people" into a concentration camp as far as I'm concerned

>>96485808
Your right, if they just gave each army the ability to spend
1 CP to do d3 mortal wounds the game would be fixed

>>96485787
Doesn't it suck when the army you spent all that money and effort on is noticeably mathematically less likely to win.

>>96485833
No, AoS and 40k are obviously even worse in that regard.
But WHFB has for decades had all or almost all its rules focused on killing the enemy. It's never been narrative focused. It's never tried to be.

>>96485671
>Can show this to people when they say my Expeditionary Force is OP just because all my fire when directly into their exposed dragon and everything crumbled for them turn 1
Pretty good desu
Pretty good desu.

>>96485851
Not that anon, but I think you must be playing very different games to me if you even think about that.

>>96485873
I'm sorry, I would like the guys I painted to win at some point, and not for that to be a mathematical impossibility if the opposing player uses a single briancell.

Do intelligent Khornates exist? By intelligent I don't mean "professor of mathematics", but, for example, developing plans more ambitious than "raaage and trample". Or knowing enough rudimentary trigonometry to actually target catapult.

>>96485893
Yes.

>>96485893
Khorne is the god of war in all its forms.

>>96485892
>Biggest win rate is a touch under 70%
>Bro literally never wins a game, not even 1 in 4 which is an almost statistic certainty
>Seethes endlessly about it

Just say your a poor general and a sore loser

>>96485892
okay so your army is 'mathematically' weaker than your opponent.

maybe they understand that they're at a disadvantage if they were to fight fair with equal forces, so they resort to some dirty tricks, like a hidden ambush, or they pay for some mercenaries to help them who may be really effective or may instead decide to abandon the field after a taste of action.

I don't know, maybe research some wargaming scenarios.

>>96485671

Nice to see Minotaurs doing well. Pretty much in line where they're unlikely to see much nerfs... wait. How THE FUCK are Ogre's that high? What are they doing!? Just out and out cheating? Pretending they get parry saves?

How!?!?

>>96481799
Rotor assembly:
>Glued the blades normally with superglue
>kept them supported while they dried
>found a small plastic ring and made shallow notches for the blades
> glued the ring on the blades
>added a warrior's shield on top
>flipped it upside down and filled it with superglue (should have added baking soda but it worked without)
Temporarily glued the rotor to a piece of sprue for painting.

Rest od assembly:
>1 pin between motor block and cockpit
>pinned the skids
>just superglue the rest
Kept the gyro off the flying stand for painting.
Glued the rotor after everything was sealed, and left the entire copter removable from the stand for transport.

The problem with weak armies like Skaven is that their weakness comes from a lack of interesting rules and just being generally boring to play as, whereas the good armies tend to also be more mechanically rich, or "cheat" by ignoring the core mechanic of the game which is rank and flank. This isn't an absolute of course, but I think it's a good rule of thumb.

>>96485787
This 100%.

Look at this graph>>96485671
It's exactly like in E sport games like League of Legends when they release a new character they are super powerful on launch so that all the players are obligated to purchase them.
Warhammer has even adopted a "battle pass" system with their 3 year "cycles."

>>96485671
Looking at less than two months worth of tourny data seems like a disingenuous way of look at the stats. I bet some of the armies onthat chart saw <100 games in that time, possibly even <50

>>96485671
>>96485787
>>96486103
Kek none of this gay shit exists in historical wargames. Why is it like this pretty much exclusively with Games Workshop games?

>>96486145
Publicly traded company with enough volume to collect parasites.

>>96485851
>no dudes
>no exploits
If an army was 'noticeably' less likely to win, it wouldn't need to be hyperauristically analysed to the point of determining it's 'mathematically' less likely to win. Such 'noticeable' differences have been solved by gentlemen's agreements in gaming clubs and even in pickup games for years and years, but here you are pointing to a three percentage point difference among tourneyfags' game outcomes as the reason you keep losing your games during the listbuilding phase of the game.

>>96486145
Accessibility of the IP and wide availability of rules and models I guess. The barrier to entry is so low that even the supine protoplasmic jellies manage to ooze their way into the game. The amount of effort required to get started in the (GW) hobby becomes the level of effort they maintain during their entire time in the hobby.

>>96485555
People wouldn't say Kremlo came from space if Kremlo didn't come from space, c'mon.

>>96486145
>Why is it
because historicals aren't that popular
standardisation and competitive gaming arise from mass spread
if you want a non competitive and narrative gaming in fantasy wargaming you need to step away into the places where the popularisation of said games happen and expresses itself: random players at random game stores and tournament scenes

do that and suddenly you have likeminded friends in an enclosed club throwing their models on lovely crafted tables to have fun with challenges that start with "how would..." and not "who would..."

>>96486103
>flat PVC dinner plate objective markers
>in a black and turquoise Esports color scheme
>with a sponsor's name and logo emblazoned on them

>>96486211
It's AoS. TOW typically has more SOVL

>>96486221
Is this bait?

How do you store/display your dudes anons?

I'm thinking of doing this ikea hack (not my picture) that combines a cabinet and a bookcase. Airbrush kit in the cabinet, armies on the shelves, each shelf will be flocked, have bits of terrain, the background painted in a watercolor landscape, and clear perspex across the front to keep the dust out. Thought it would be a nice hobby project in itself.

But before I go ahead I thought I'd see how others might have done it. Any thoughts or experiences welcome.

>>96486243
>armies on the shelves

>>96485407 (OP)
Am I taking crazy pills? I thought Characteristic tests were always 7+. As in, if d6+stat = 7+ its a pass. When did they change it to roll equal to or less than stat? It's the exact same distribution, and way easier to remember since the vast majority of the time, higher rolls are better.

>>96486260
That's exactly the kind of aesthetic I want to avoid lol. Cramped, no effort other than putting the figures on a veneered shelf, collecting dust from the rest of the unkempt room. Basically I want to make each shelf like an armies on parade display board.

>>96486243
Displaying your toys/collectibles on a shelf is some serious redditor behavior

>>96486260
What a disengnous post. "Is this pose good for photos"
"No"
>Post Amberlyn Reid in pose as proof that the pose is not photogenic.
Everything looks bad when demonstrated with Funko pops because Funko pops are inherently evil.

>>96486296
>I let my wife brow beat me into hiding all of the interests in a box under the bed like I'm a 14 year old hiding porn mags.

>>96486305
On the contrary anon, is actually 14 yo behavior to put your toys on a display shelf

>thread filling up with the same old shit terrain pictures that are already on another thread that is still up
fuck off perryfag

>>96486234
>one random table from gods know where, using matched play objectives that were added 2 months ago
You're desperate for attention.

>>96486310
>Taking pride in your work is childish

>>96486317
nta but it's not work, it's basically coloring books for slightly older people.

>>96486322
post your models

>>96486322
I was gonna say the same thing but you put it succinctly.

>>96486325
I did last thread. My statement shouldn't upset you, it's simply the truth, no more, no less.
Unless you're an actual professional painter painting display pieces, what we're doing is just the equivalent of filling up 3D coloring books for fun.
That's not work, we're not accomplishing anything, we're just playing with toy soldiers as an entertaining way to pass time.

>>96486355
>Work
>1. Physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production... of something
Quality or monitary value is not part of the definition.

Question for the beastmen players.
Gors - Two weapons or shields? With the changes to infantry since the update I've been really torn on which to use.

>>96486359
>tfw I work every day towards the production of big fat dumps

>>96485893
Twice shown in G&F. The first book has a chaos lady who is devoted to a khorne daemon and they use tactics and siege weaponry. The later is the Gore Wolf on the skull road. Even in the short story the everliving the guy is deceiving as a khorne acolyte

>>96486365
As follow up, its for this list for a match today. Shields seem best for taking the charge, two weapons for making the charge. But the ungors seem like throwing spears kind of got fucked except for losing models prior to charging.

Thoughts?

Wild Herd list
++ Characters [285 pts] ++
Great Bray-Shaman [285 pts]
(Braystaff, Wizard [Level 3 Wizard], General, On foot, Full Plate Chaos Armour, Hagtree Fetish, Horn of the First Beast, Pelt of Midnight, Lore of Primal Magic)
Your notes: Skin of Man - 15pts

++ Core Units [341 pts] ++
Primal Warherd [165 pts]
(Standard bearer [Banner of Outrage], Musician, 10x Gors [5x Hand weapons + Shields + 5x Additional hand weapons], 10x Ungors [5x Thrusting spears + Shields + 5x Throwing spears + Shields])

10 Ungor Herd [57 pts]
(Shortbows, Ambushers, Half-horn)

10 Ungor Herd [67 pts]
(Shortbows, Ambushers, Half-horn)

1 Razorgor Herd [52 pts]
(Hand weapons (tusks), Light armour (calloused hide))

++ Special Units [359 pts] ++
8 Centigor Herd [184 pts]
(Hand weapons, Great weapons, Javelins, Ambushers, Gorehoof)

Preyton [175 pts]
(Hand weapons (Claws and fangs), Twisted antlers, Ambushers, Frenzy)

>>96485787
That image literally made me gag. What have these 'people' done to my hobby

>>96485893
In lore or IRL? Because IRL I'm going to have to say no.

>>96486376
Good examples
There's a Chaos POV novel too, I forget which one, where four chaos lords are besieging a city. The Nurgle, Slaanesh, and Tzeentch lords are all shown to be less tactically adept than the Khornate lord, who has a knowledge of seigecraft and tactics, and he plays the "practical" role w.r.t. managing logistics and stuff while the others are more focused on getting glory or pleasing the gods

>>96486359
2025 and niggas are still copy/pasting definitions from Google as a form of argumentation lmfao

>>96486145
>Kek none of this gay shit exists in historical wargames.
It absolutely does. You can see tournament rankings for shit like ADLG, DBM, and Flames of War.

>>96486243
Put them on a shelf in a pseudo-diorama style

>>96486325
Your turn... nigger

>>96486582
Perry God.. I kneel

>>96481932
Holy shit after 8 hours of gluing stuff it all went back together.
60 zombies, 20 ghouls, 3 spirit hosts, 5 hexwraiths, 5 wolves, a black coach, a mortis, 3 bat swarms, a cairn wraith, a strigoi and Vlad and I only lost a couple of small bats from the swarms and some fingers from a ghoul.

I don't think I'll be able to carry the mortis anywhere without it exploding into little pieces though. It might be time to find another (and preferably smaller) proxy/stl.

>>96486296
Why would I not make a display for my hobby projects in my own hobby room? Where do you keep your dudes after you've finished them then, for comparison?

>>96486499
Yeah that's the plan, I thought why stop at painting the minis when there are so many more creative bits you can do with the hobby. Why not learn watercolor to create the landscapes they stand in front of, why not make terrain and diorama pieces for the ground they stand upon

>>96486312
...as opposed to the other random table from god knows where?

Post objective markers and unit fillers.

>>96486708
As opposed to 95% of the tables of every tow tournament.
What's even funnier is that the pic you posted isn't even comparable to the one you replied to in the first place.

>>96485851
No because this isn't a sterile ass chess game, its WARHAMMER and that means it's your guys against some other dude's guys and you're telling a story of a glorious battle first and foremost

For those whose main armies aren't doing so good, what's a chance that would balance your army out?

https://oldworldrankings.com/faction_stats

>>96486582
Do you actually own any warhammer?
Lol if you played imperial guard I would half expect you to use army men from a dollar store

>>96486745
I didn't post shit, I just pointed out it was autistic to have a big spergout about a single image when that was posted in response to.... a single image.
Which it is.

>>96486243
Themed inserts for each army would look cool and immersive

>>96486664
Glad you managed to salvage them dude, it's a really nice custom army. Wtf happened? The bottoms of the bases looked magnetised and they looked like they were in a metal tin, suggesting they'd have been fairly secure?

>>96485671
Based balanced chorfs

>>96486745

This looks awful.

>>96485787
>"""win rates""" contributed to the T-sportification and overall decline of 40
GW hard pushing commodification of the hobby did that. Blaming it on attempts to balance is putting the cart before the horse.

>>96486770
Nobody's having a sperg out and it's a picture of 3 tables titled "1500pts tournament" which really adds to the fact that there's no equivalence and therefore that your intervention is quite literally pointless.

>>96486770
If I played IG I would use these, actually. I've considered it

>>96486787
ok drama queen

>>96486745
Genuinely depressing.

>>96486795
Still miles ahead of clear plastic L shape ruins

>>96486243
Needs a china cabinet or display case that closes so you don't have to dust.

>>96486745
>retarded flat battlemat with CGI plants and rocks on it, looking like an early 2000's RTS game map
>fish tank decorations randomly tossed around the table as "scatter terrain"
Lol...lmfao

>>96486296
Nigga you're dumb as fuck.
Why would you spend hundreds of hours painting to them keep them hidden away in a box somewhere?

>>96486781
Cheers, had a leg cramp and fell down the stairs with it, the magnets weren't strong enough to old the stuff that were stuck vertically unfortunately and the mortis is so heavy it just bounced off and around, smashing everything inside.

>>96486806
You're just embarrassing yourself my guy, spamming won't help the damage control.

>>96486831
It's my first time weighing in on this argument. Keep coping

average aelves enjoyer

>>96486804
Nice setup, exactly the kind of thing I'm thinking of. For a dust cover I was thinking of 3d printing these mounts which hold a perspex sheet. They're magnetized so can be removed for access to the shelf, and perspex cut to size is really cheap.

>>96486835
You're not weighing on anything lmao, you're done.

>>96486823
Damn, well it's good you were able to save the majority anyway. Maybe make a separate box with built in straight jacket for the mortis engine lol.

>>96486791
Where do you get these guys?

>>96486856
IDK how much room you have but I would definitely look into China Cabinets at resale shops. I got a pretty nice one for $40. Comes with lighting and storage under too. My plan is to do a ln army per shelf.

>>96485671
Based Chatay, I love those japs

>>96486756
>Lizardmen
The simplest fix is to just revert Cold Blooded back to its old form and let it be used for all Leadership tests, not just Panic, Fear, and Terror. Lizards always had relatively low leadership values to balance out the fact that they got a third die. Losing that third die for important Leadership tests like Break Tests and Stupidity (I lost a game because my Cold Ones sat and did nothing for three fucking turns in a row) and not giving a boost to the Ld values really hurts.

Also, revert scaly skin back so it stacks with any armour worn, not replaces it. Temple Guard should have better armour than Saurus.

Also also, give Krox their 4+ scaly skin again.

Also also also, fix Fear so units can't just ignore it for high unit strength. Units that cause Fear are usually small, units that are most vulnerable to Fear are in bit blocks. Fear has been utterly negated by letting big numbers just ignore the effect. Big numbers should get a bonus to the roll, but not ignore it all together.

Oh, and put Slann on 60mm bases and let them integrate into Saurus/Temple Guard units again. Fucking stupid to keep them off to the side.

>>96486296
>>96486260
if you're this ashamed of your hobby why even engage with it then?

>>96486582
>guy sitting up the thread is perrynigger

Hey you know what's really childish? Forcing your wife to play a game with so you can save face from strangers on the internet

>>96486973
>if you can't jerk off in public why even jerk off?
Based degenerate.

>>96486957
NTA, but I think drenched should give +1 or +2 to having spells cast on them. As a way to make their magic better but requiring a few more steps. And obviously amphibious prevents being drenched.

>>96486981
>but showing people on the internet pictures of you jerking off isn't degenerate

>>96486973
He's a perrynigger here for (you's) as no historical player wants to play with him.

>>96486997
The point isn't whether you're a degenerate or not, the point is whether you publicly expose yourself as one or not.
You're slow.

posted about my blood dragons yesterday these are the two horses I am stuck between. I also have the old blood knights if that means anything.

>>96486912
Thanks for the idea anon, I didn't even know china cabinets with some lighting were a thing. I knew I'd have to figure out the internal lighting situation at some point but was putting it off. I'll go see what I can find now, cheers!

>>96487008
Again, how is me making a display for my hobby projects in my own hobby room akin to "publicly exposing myself as a degenerate", I don't see how the analogy fits.

>>96486582
>Perry nigger is the guy with the nicely painted buzz light-year toy
Man, my home world is upsidedown.

>>96487008
If the point isn't that you're a degenerate for exposing yourself and therefore is bad because being a degenerate is bad, than what's bad about exposing it?

>>96486979
Meds

>>96486981
>>96487008
>xes so ashamed of miniature models xe equates them to public masturbation
why are you even in this hobby then?

>>96487048
Truly a fucking mystery I guess you're going to have to find that one out by yourself when you go out or stop being retarded, I don't know.

>>96486996
I haven't used a Slann yet since I was really disappointed in their rules but my little Skink Priest on Stegadon with the Engine of the Gods has been a little powerhouse getting +1 to his casts from the Engine. But Drenched should at least give -1 to movement and charge rolls so melee units can actually be affected by it.

Oh, and what the fuck is up with Stegadons not having any AP on their impact hits? Should be -3, or at least -2, just to differentiate from -3 that their horns do in close combat.

>>96487061
>why are you even in this hobby then?
Like most people, depression and not having much else to do.
Why do you think that shit's popular in shitty countries with shit weather

>>96487054
>no I'm not perry nugger I swear I just have the exact same miniatures that are painted and based the same way in the same garage with the same maps on the walls.

I get you want to distance yourself from the fact you doxxed your own family and post naked pictures of yourself online to solicit naked pictures of other men but you're really bad at the whole "anonymity" thing.

>>96487061
Even if you're highly ashamed of your hobby you're displaying it in your hobby room in your own house.

It's like having a bdsm dungeon but being too embarrassed to display the whips and chains.

>>96487008
Is not a public exposure tho, it's a display in his own house.

>>96487063
says the guy trying to say that a private display is analogous to exposing yourself in public

>>96487101
>>96487106
>the coom cave dwellers who don't know what it is to have a family with friends and guests coming in and out of the house.

>>96487078
>Like most people, depression and not having much else to do.
Speak for yourself, bit of a self report that one lad

>>96487122
>being so insecure that your family and friends see that you play with very expensive little plastic army men
At least you would be insecure if you owned any models.
Begone, secondary. You have no place here except to troll.

>>96487122
Better to do something passionately then try to be a soulless npc without any personality or identity. Maybe you should go dust the "live laugh love." Sign hanging over your TV.

>>96487034
Perrynigger is a mystery to me. He obviously cares about the hobby a lot and puts more effort into his models and terrain than most on this board, he looks like a normal relatively handsome dude with a wife and children, I agree with a lot of his points that he spams - but the way he does it is very odd and mentally unstable. Why does he act this way? I don't understand it. If he behaved normally we would probably like him and welcome him in the thread

>>96487122
I cant even imagine being so sheepish about painting models that I would be afraid of my own family finding out.
Thats genuinely pathetic

>>96487150
Nothing screams soulless npc more than being an adult and collecting warhammer toy soldier or pokemon/magic cards or whatever else soulless corpo product you had/wanted when you were a kid

>>96487122
If family and friends don't want to spend time in my hobby room they are welcome to spend time in the living room, the dining room, the conservatory, or on the garden patio. They are of course welcome to come and chill in the hobby room too, since it has armchairs in there, that's up to them. Not quite sure what your point is.

>>96487172
Personally I tell them to go into ball room and to avoid the boudoir.

>>96487168
Nothing screams desperate troll like 0/8 b8 insulting silly tabletop hobbies on the silly tabletop hobby board.

>>96487160
>he said with a smirk, living alone having no family of his own while posting basedjacks

>>96487189
huh so it's silly now, how quint

>>96487191
You're projecting that part, man.

Funny how the perry guy bounces from general to general shitting them up in turn until he knows the jig is up so moves onto the next one in rotation. /awg/ must feel so relieved right now.

>>96487191
I actually live in my moms basement but ill let you hide your minis here so nobody can judge you

>>96487206
Sure bud, typical busy family man with children shitposting basedjack memes on /tg/ on a Saturday. I don't know why you're lying to yourself.

>>96487183
You may be American idk, those are pretty normal names for rooms in the UK.

>>96487122
>they might see.... that I painted something!!!!!

>>96487237
>collect toy soldiers*

>>96487158
>Why does he act this way?

It's a coping mechanism, he obviously has a great shame for many things he does, like posting naked pictures of himself on public forums to solict pictures of other men, and treating other, more mundane activities as something to be ashamed of, like owning miniatures, makes him feel like he's just like everyone else. Essentially, if everyone is engaging in shameful activities then what he does is fine too.

>>96487225
I'm not even that anon, he might also live elsewhere, and insulting people online doesn't take much time, unless you intend on giving (you) on hours on end.

>>96487225
thank goodness I have no friends and/or family. Then they might find out I have a hobby!!!!

>>96487225
>you're projecting
>no I'm not! I'm just making claims about someone's life based on the fact they're doing the same thing I'm doing!

>>96487246
DEAR GOD! THE HORROR!

>perryanon returns
>thread immediately turns to shit
>also the most active it's been in months
Well well well

>2025
>Not having your gf/bf/children/owner/hostages paint background scenery to display your still unpainted models

>>96487269
If you take that as an insult that your bad. It's just the reality of the demographics who play warhammer or collect magic/pokemon cards.
25-35 years old men with no children. You might all get upset when that fact is spoken but that just won't change the reality of the situation.
We're going through an entire generation of manchildren, that's factual and spamming me with coping replies won't do shit.

>>96487297
Based, exactly the kind of setup I had in mind, cheers anon

>>96487296
If it’s any consolation he decided to shit up40k first

>>96487298
Nobody's getting upset by it anon, you just want your "you may not like [average take that everyone and their mother knows] but it's true, and only I will say it" moment.

If you actually want to contribute something to the thread - where do you store your models when you've painted them?

>>96487298
This solidifies that its all projection or did you take a census of every person thats plays warhammer?

>>96487298
>If you take that as an insult
Are you an ESL? I was saying anon was insulting you, not that anyone was feeling insulted by whatever you're saying.

>>96487330
>Nobody's getting upset by it anon
hahahaha

>>96487359
You don't fancy answering my question? No?

>>96487368
Nobody cares about your question, which is why nobody replies.
Everybody's upset about my one remark, which is why I get spammed by coping retards, including you. So instead of pretending you want to talk about something else, how about you don't fucking pile on in the first place?

I'm having an absolutely miserable time assembling miaoying, and I haven't even started on the dragon form.

>>96487402
Have you tried using both hands?

>>96487401
>Everybody's upset about my one remark
people are laughing at you, don't mistake it for anything else

>>96487416
That would be the "coping" part of the "coping retards" two parts combo.

>>96487350
xhes latinx

Attention grabbing vtuber pic

Got any good ideas for Knights of Manann? I'm trying to plan out my Marienburg army collection, and I figured most other Knightly orders wouldn't associate with a rogue city state that the Imperial beaucracy is still fuming about, which leaves the Knights of Manaan since they're based out of Marienburg itself.
I was thinking tassels and capes stylized to look like seaweed, icons, fetishes, and helmets/helmet crests that look like fish and sea monsters, and of course the Manaan Trident on shields, and maybe even have their lances have a Trident on the end?

>>96486103
That whole scene is just fine and it looks great except for the objective markers good crimminy.
Why can't people just grab a 60mm base and make a little diorama or something? Hell, keep the PVC dinner plates but attach each to a 60mm diorama.
Competition can still look nice come on now.

>>96486243
Right now it's mostly show boxes but I'm going to buy myself some real boxes with foam inserts and all. Hate the whole schtick now where people magnetize Rubbermaid containers; such an inefficient use of space. As for storage, I was just gunna pile said cases into a corner and or beneath the bed.

>>96487401
>Nobody cares about your question, which is why nobody replies.
You are ignoring the reality of the thread in favour of what suits your personal bias.
>Everybody's upset about my one remark
You are ignoring the reality of the thread in favour of what you want (need) to be true.
>which is why I get spammed by coping retards, including you
Replies to your posts are not spam lol.
>So instead of pretending you want to talk about something else
I'm not pretending anything, I literally want to bring the thread back to warhammer. Where do you store your models after you've painted them anon?
>how about you don't fucking pile on in the first place?
Nobody is piling on you, you thin-skinned sensitive little soul lol.

Now if you want to tell us where you store your models after you've painted them that'd be swell.

>>96487558
>he's still going

>>96487402
Good. Cathay players should suffer.

>>96487479
>I figured most other Knightly orders wouldn't associate with a rogue city state
I figure most would for the right donation. Chapter houses aren't cheap.

>>96486912
Gf got me this guy from taobao for cheap and its been pretty decent, only problem is theres a small gap at the top of each, so moths and shit sneak through it to get at the lights and then die inside.
Mainly use it to store shit Im not actively using for games or working on so theres no WHFB in there.
>>96487122
>not having a display in your livingroom so all your guests can see
Very beta and gay anon
You'd be surprised how much unprompted interest normie visitors show in stuff like this, its a shame to hide it away

>>96487479
>maybe even have their lances have a Trident on the end?
That would be good. Maybe see if you can get some of those old gladiator fish helmets.

>>96487621
Yeah. I got a pretty cheap one from Temu. I regret not shopping around resale places first. The doors are slightly offset and it's generally cheaper and shoddier than I'd like.

>>96487564
You're clearly shutting down. Wouldn't want to further jeopardise the reality you need to be true, so I'll leave you to seethe in your corner. If you want to join the warhammer chat feel free to come back at any time.

>>96487479
>Rubbermaid containers
I had to Google them, they look like the 'really useful boxes' we have over here (that Duncan used for his video about magnetised storage). I've made a couple of them and they're great for carrying minis around securely, but after having my dudes in these boxes in a cupboard for the last year or so it just seems a shame, hence why I thought I'd try something different.
Also if you get foam inserts just beware of the foam rubbing your paintwork off! A good coat of varnish will go a long way to preventing that.

>>96487665
You're mentally ill my man, seek help.

>WFRP 4e
Would you allow outdoor survival to be used to slum it out as a homeless guy in a populated city?

>>96487712
I don't play WHFRPG but it's there no more appropriate skill? I would probably allow it at a significant penalty.

>>96487827
The only homelessness related advice in the book is that Charm should be used for begging, but that doesn't really fit.

>>96486322
>>96486340
>>96486355
even if its straightforward its still art. Even at a basic level its still impressive to complete an entire project like an army or display piece. If you try and boil everything down to simplistic terms then of course it doesn't sound very cool but your deliberately ignoring the rest of the process in order to be negative.

>>96487712
If he's a pro beggar then i'd let him, otherwise with penalty

>>96487712
Sure, tests would probably all be hard at the minumum tho unless theyre a native to the city or somethin

>>96487158
I actually don't think he's mentally unstable at all. His shitposting doesn't seem like an unstable autist sperging out, it seems a lot more malicious than that, it seems like very calculated and intentional derailing and sabotage

>>96487009
>I also have the old blood knights if that means anything.
left of course

>>96487122
My wife and I have our primary armies in a single display case, arranged to look like they are mid-combat. Our daughter has her painted unicorn figures on a shelf below our display.

>>96487920
>even if its straightforward its still art.
God no. I'm not an artfag. Artfags are fucking pathetic, they're all egotistical snowflakes desperate for recognition.
I just want an army of little dudes so I can go to pretend war.

>>96488082
why do you assume that making art equates you to being an artfag? I can make dinner without calling myself a chef

>>96488075
>My wife
>Marrying a woman that plays tabletop games

>>96488104
Nah being an artfag isn't a proper profession.

>>96488075
Women don't play wargames, she's either pretending so she can do something with you or she has so much testosterone she looks like a dude

>>96488108
Married ten years with one kid and one kid due in a few months. It is wonderful. Regular tabletop is a nice bonus.
>>96488126
Nah, she's a normal woman (female). Bit of the 'tism but I prefer her love of fantasy and historical armies and painting over stupid e-whore trends and social media addiction like friends wives have.

>>96488119
you're missing the point

>>96488126
She's probably busted af like all the other girls you occasionally see at the LGS

>>96487225
A woman clearly lives in the house an image of which set this shitshow off in the first place.

>>96488082
>I want an army of little dudes
>but I dont want to build or paint them
Just play videogames 2bh

>>96488141
There was no point, being an artfag is a stance and the whole concept of art is claimed by artfags. If you claim something is art or call what you do art you're an artfag.
What I do assemble little dudes and color them. If I were sculpting the little dudes myself I'd be a craftsman and If I were good enough to win golden demons I'd be a painter.

>>96488172
What are you talking about

>>96488189
>the whole concept of art is claimed by artfags
>If I were sculpting the little dudes myself I'd be a craftsman and If I were good enough to win golden demons I'd be a painter.
delusional

>>96488201
>>96488178
Your reading comprehension is abysmal.

>>96488206
no youre just coping hard about imaginary art bogeymen

>>96486582
Is this not a shelf? Is this not litteraly what he was crying about?

>>96488210
Found the artfag lmao

>>96488358
>are they in the room with us now?

>>96488385
Yeah I just found it, it called coloring warhammers art.

>>96485945
Thank you!
Are the blades now fixed to the body? Or are they disassembled?

I'm surprised that no pins were needed for the blades, but I'm glad to see you found and alternative. I like the added gluing surface of the ring; and the shield top is a nice clean up touch.

>>96488394
sounds based

>>96488476
Sounds desperate and deluded.

>>96488492
are you really this insecure? im not the one crying about "artfags"

>>96488501
huh? How did you even come to this conclusion in that nebulous artfag brain of yours lol

>>96488507
>>96488385

>>96488519
I guess you need me to rephrase it more clearly: how do you relate that to insecurities?

>>96488528
you forgetting your own posts now?
>>96488082
>>96488189

Yesterday I played 1250 point Heroic Last Stand.

The Chaos were trying to perform a ritual to escape to the chaos wastes through a portal but were ambushed by Night Goblins.

After a bloody battle with many killed each side, only two were left. Everyone else had been slaughtered by a demented onslought of squig riders and squig bosses. The Chaos Ogres to their credit annihilated a Night goblin unit in a single turn after breaking them.

After an unrelenting bloodbath, because they endured for 5 turns, the portal opened, allowing Korgoth and his Chosen Knight Champion survivor to achieve a minor victory and return to the Chaos Wastes

There was a point the Chosen Knights and Korgoth were charged in the rear by 6 squigs, front by 2 trolls and the side by a squig boss and miraculously won the combat.

Not gonna lie, this game was way too stressful than it should have. Played around 20+ games since July and even though I won, felt more exhausted than anything. It might be time for a wee break. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!

>>96488588
And having contempt for artfags means I'm insecure because...?

>>96488611
Because your throwing a tantrum over being equated to them (by your own arbitrary standards no less)

>>96488628
pfpffhahah ok dude

Got to play a 1250p game against Warriors of Chaos today with my beastmen. We made our lists and then we rolled for the mission and got #5, the mountain pass.
In short I lost the game, but not without a fight. I brought down both his units of chaos knights, and in the end he only had his units of chosen and his chaos lord left, but in the end he won with more points.
All in all it was a great battle, lots of bants, and casual warhammer fun.

>inb4 unpainted models
we're both painting in a glacial pace but we're at least working on our minis.

>>96488848
Here's a more narrative take on the battle I've strung up from the events of the game and how we both imagine it would play out in a "cinematic" way.

>>96488848
Nice textured table and army, such a shame about the opponent. It really ruins the whole thing

>>96488848
I personally think unpainted minis should be punishable by death but never playing is actually worse.

>>96488848
>we are both working on our minis
That nigga has like 1 single hour of work put into his models, he is putting in no effort to paint them unless he assembled that army this morning

Is there anything that stops you from reacting with multiple units to 1 enemy action?

>>96488848
What kind of moron primes his models white just to paint 90% of the model black? Hello? Retard alert!

>>96488596
The deployment of armies. Squig hoppers hurt!

>>96489038
Priming in general is a waste of time unless you just want to use contrast paints on white. I painted 250+ models and never had any problem with the paint not adhering to the surface, polystyrene and resin models.

>>96488848
Did that guy really just bring 2 knight units and 1 chosen knight unit? Hard luck man but good job taking the knights.

In case you meet him again, you can bait the knights as they'll have frenzy if khorne, flee with your unit then countercharge with others.

>>96489092
Sure that's great when you're a nogames, but for those of us who actually play, it's important to prime your models or the paint will eventually start rubbing off on high contact areas of the models.

>>96489113
ok but I play every week though. Have you heard about varnishes?

>>96489038
It's 10 times easier to paint 90% of a white model black than it is to paint 10% of a black model white

>>96488596
Smurf gobbos look dope

>>96489138
true

>>96488909
Thanks, glad you like the table and such, but as I said we both have our lives and hobby time is infrequent.

>>96489106
What's the point of doing that instead of just counter charging with your cav in the first place

>>96489142
He is a typical NG player, lovely bloke and passionate. Gorgous unit fillers and my photos do zero justice to his troll hag. Mind he didn't even bring fanatics, not that he needed two. Squig hoppers and bosses are insane!

Still, too stressful despite being a regular game.

>>96489123
>y-yeah I play every week...j-j-just trust m-me...!"

>>96489201
Assuming the knights were khorne, they MUST charge. If he lures the chaos knights into a bait and flee and the follow up chargers for the beastmen are within 7", the chaos knights can't use counter charge.

If they don't have khorne mark, their offensive capacity is minimal..

>>96487827
>>96487960
>>96487980
Should there really be a penalty though? There's tons of shelter and food running around.

>>96489142
Here is a closer pic. Korgoth and his last man killing some of the smurfs. I forgot stubborn which could have helped a lot.

>>96489248
Oh ok I see, I think the confusion come from the fact that you said counter charge with the others and meant charge them when it's your turn instead of the "counter charge" game mechanic as a reaction.

>>96489291
Neat. I've never tried such scenario yet. It seems hard to balance.

>>96489242
What If I told you I put all of my army in a metal box, shook it real hard and none of the paint got scratched despite models breaking? Would that calm your petulant attitude?

>>96489319
It is hard af to balance. It's in the main rulebook, in the Narrative battle section, third scenario.

The defender deploys everyone first as in >>96489088 via an 18" by 18" square. Then the entire enemy army deploys after, minimum 8" distance. Defender goes first.

On paper it seems the defender has the disadvantage but if they have any man alive by turn 5, they win.

>>96489345
Interesting, I'd like to try that sometime.
>On paper it seems the defender has the disadvantage but if they have any man alive by turn 5, they win.
Looks like another easy win for the undead.

>>96489381
In the scenario of VC and a bigger set of armies, I would wrap it back around to defenders advantage. Pop up spam summoning zombies / skeletons and just plant your Necromancers square in the middle and gg.

>>96489421
Yep, one brick of grave guards with the regen banner on the dangerous side, one big brick of skellies on the other side, the necro(s) in the middle and it's basically game over unless you get lucky deviations with templates.