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Anonymous No.96485407 [Report] >>96485414 >>96485671 >>96486266 >>96492446 >>96492663 >>96494971
/wfg/ - Warhammer Fantasy General
Legend edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL

>Previous Thread: >>96453718

>TQ: What is the miniature you have that hate the most, for whatever reason?
Anonymous No.96485414 [Report] >>96485428
>>96485407 (OP)
I heard he came from space
Anonymous No.96485420 [Report] >>96485474
>buy a proont of the Lost Kingdoms Bretonnian BSB
>realize it's a woman
>into the trash it goes
Kept the banner though
Anonymous No.96485428 [Report] >>96485440 >>96485461
>>96485414
he really didn't, he was born on the world
Anonymous No.96485440 [Report]
>>96485428
Just like (You)
Anonymous No.96485457 [Report]
>>96485362
That's not what I said. Abhorash is a terrible judge of character. He knew Walach for their entire mortal adult lives and look at how Walach turned out.
Judging a servant of the, and I can not stress this enough, RUINOUS POWERS as a person with less than desirable traits isn't a hard job. The god of betrayal, the god of rot, the god of unending hunger, or the god of unrestrained violence.
Look at a Nurgle worshiper and tell me this a person you want to be around, it doesn't take a strong judge of character to reject chaos worshipers.
Anonymous No.96485461 [Report] >>96485555
>>96485428
I'm pretty sure Kremlo came from space. That's like the one thing everyone knows.
Anonymous No.96485465 [Report]
>>96485405
I don't see how this is a response to what I said.
Anonymous No.96485474 [Report]
>>96485420
I have no idea why creators nerf their sales like that
Anonymous No.96485555 [Report] >>96485556 >>96486187
>>96485461
And everyone is wrong
Anonymous No.96485556 [Report] >>96485558
>>96485555
Anonymous No.96485558 [Report] >>96485563
>>96485556
Anonymous No.96485563 [Report] >>96485566
>>96485558
Anonymous No.96485566 [Report] >>96485571
>>96485563
Anonymous No.96485571 [Report]
>>96485566
Anonymous No.96485645 [Report] >>96485656
I claim this thread, and bretonian wombs for the breyherds
Anonymous No.96485656 [Report]
>>96485645
breh
Anonymous No.96485671 [Report] >>96485703 >>96485704 >>96485712 >>96485721 >>96485735 >>96485741 >>96485787 >>96485858 >>96485938 >>96486103 >>96486134 >>96486145 >>96486782 >>96486932
>>96485407 (OP)
Thoughts?
Anonymous No.96485703 [Report]
>>96485671
Cathay numba wan
Anonymous No.96485704 [Report] >>96485734
>>96485671
Seeing Empire so high feels like a fever dream
Anonymous No.96485712 [Report]
>>96485671
>cathay
>exiles
>nuln
Anonymous No.96485721 [Report] >>96485738 >>96485799 >>96485815
>>96485671
Look, I'm glad that TOW has brought back interest in the game for so many people that couldn't play warhammer without specific approval by GW; but I'm kind of saddened that the vast majority of the conversation regarding the hobby are extremely technical and suffer from the videogamification of the hobby.

Stats, arguing about updates and patches, arguing (and not discussing) about rules, continuous bitching about list building and list optimization. The main content online (that isn't painting) is mostly competitive or pseudo competitive shit.

At least when the game was "dead" the people that stuck with it really seemed to stick out of love.

But maybe I'm just getting old, and becoming now like those oldbeards that would complain of similar things (did they?) On portent/warseer, dakka and similar places. I have my own group and we play the way we enjoy it; but it saddens seeing what the situation is out there.
Anonymous No.96485734 [Report]
>>96485704
Despite most of their units not being great, it turns out cannons and steam tanks, and Demigryph knights can take down anything
Anonymous No.96485735 [Report]
>>96485671
I think tourneyfaggotry needs to die.
Anonymous No.96485738 [Report]
>>96485721
While I agree with the disdain for tourney faggotry I think winrates are pretty important to show overall balance of the game. I don't play competively but I at least want a chance of winning. If a faction has almost 70% winrate while others are barely winning a third of their games there is a problem.
Anonymous No.96485741 [Report]
>>96485671
I find it weird that an army as strong and easy to play as Brets is that low. Also didn’t one of the guys in the video say like 5% of Cathays wins were from one playtester getting in a bunch of games in the first week they were out?
Anonymous No.96485787 [Report] >>96485826 >>96485851 >>96486103 >>96486145 >>96486404 >>96486788
>>96485671
"""win rates""" contributed to the T-sportification and overall decline of 40k, set the groundwork for the 3 year cycle, paved the way for and ushered in a bunch of tourneyfags with their L-shaped clear perspex ruins on MDF bases and burning desire to enshittify a tabletop game so they could pretend they were competing in tournaments with balanced games where their wins demonstrated something, and now you want to bring all of that to TOW? No thanks. Show me your dudes and tell me of their recent exploits.
Anonymous No.96485799 [Report]
>>96485721
The tourneys in my yuro country use official scenarios and legacy armies but also maintain well-painted terrain and fun fluffy armies are encouraged. It all depends on where you live. America seems very into competitive shit
Anonymous No.96485804 [Report] >>96485808
Tow just isn’t built for narrative games imo
Anonymous No.96485808 [Report] >>96485833
>>96485804
WHFB just isn't in general. The abilities have always been very game-y and about killing the enemy and not really narrative focused.
Anonymous No.96485815 [Report]
>>96485721
It's not that you're old it's that you're low IQ.
Anonymous No.96485826 [Report]
>>96485787
throw these "people" into a concentration camp as far as I'm concerned
Anonymous No.96485833 [Report] >>96485852
>>96485808
Your right, if they just gave each army the ability to spend
1 CP to do d3 mortal wounds the game would be fixed
Anonymous No.96485851 [Report] >>96485873 >>96486167 >>96486749 >>96491761
>>96485787
Doesn't it suck when the army you spent all that money and effort on is noticeably mathematically less likely to win.
Anonymous No.96485852 [Report]
>>96485833
No, AoS and 40k are obviously even worse in that regard.
But WHFB has for decades had all or almost all its rules focused on killing the enemy. It's never been narrative focused. It's never tried to be.
Anonymous No.96485858 [Report]
>>96485671
>Can show this to people when they say my Expeditionary Force is OP just because all my fire when directly into their exposed dragon and everything crumbled for them turn 1
Pretty good desu
Pretty good desu.
Anonymous No.96485873 [Report] >>96485892
>>96485851
Not that anon, but I think you must be playing very different games to me if you even think about that.
Anonymous No.96485892 [Report] >>96485917 >>96485924
>>96485873
I'm sorry, I would like the guys I painted to win at some point, and not for that to be a mathematical impossibility if the opposing player uses a single briancell.
Anonymous No.96485893 [Report] >>96485901 >>96485911 >>96486376 >>96486427
Do intelligent Khornates exist? By intelligent I don't mean "professor of mathematics", but, for example, developing plans more ambitious than "raaage and trample". Or knowing enough rudimentary trigonometry to actually target catapult.
Anonymous No.96485901 [Report]
>>96485893
Yes.
Anonymous No.96485911 [Report]
>>96485893
Khorne is the god of war in all its forms.
Anonymous No.96485917 [Report]
>>96485892
>Biggest win rate is a touch under 70%
>Bro literally never wins a game, not even 1 in 4 which is an almost statistic certainty
>Seethes endlessly about it

Just say your a poor general and a sore loser
Anonymous No.96485924 [Report]
>>96485892
okay so your army is 'mathematically' weaker than your opponent.

maybe they understand that they're at a disadvantage if they were to fight fair with equal forces, so they resort to some dirty tricks, like a hidden ambush, or they pay for some mercenaries to help them who may be really effective or may instead decide to abandon the field after a taste of action.

I don't know, maybe research some wargaming scenarios.
Anonymous No.96485938 [Report]
>>96485671

Nice to see Minotaurs doing well. Pretty much in line where they're unlikely to see much nerfs... wait. How THE FUCK are Ogre's that high? What are they doing!? Just out and out cheating? Pretending they get parry saves?

How!?!?
Anonymous No.96485945 [Report] >>96488444
>>96481799
Rotor assembly:
>Glued the blades normally with superglue
>kept them supported while they dried
>found a small plastic ring and made shallow notches for the blades
> glued the ring on the blades
>added a warrior's shield on top
>flipped it upside down and filled it with superglue (should have added baking soda but it worked without)
Temporarily glued the rotor to a piece of sprue for painting.

Rest od assembly:
>1 pin between motor block and cockpit
>pinned the skids
>just superglue the rest
Kept the gyro off the flying stand for painting.
Glued the rotor after everything was sealed, and left the entire copter removable from the stand for transport.
Anonymous No.96486081 [Report]
The problem with weak armies like Skaven is that their weakness comes from a lack of interesting rules and just being generally boring to play as, whereas the good armies tend to also be more mechanically rich, or "cheat" by ignoring the core mechanic of the game which is rank and flank. This isn't an absolute of course, but I think it's a good rule of thumb.
Anonymous No.96486103 [Report] >>96486145 >>96486211 >>96487479
>>96485787
This 100%.

Look at this graph>>96485671
It's exactly like in E sport games like League of Legends when they release a new character they are super powerful on launch so that all the players are obligated to purchase them.
Warhammer has even adopted a "battle pass" system with their 3 year "cycles."
Anonymous No.96486134 [Report]
>>96485671
Looking at less than two months worth of tourny data seems like a disingenuous way of look at the stats. I bet some of the armies onthat chart saw <100 games in that time, possibly even <50
Anonymous No.96486145 [Report] >>96486159 >>96486186 >>96486200 >>96486493
>>96485671
>>96485787
>>96486103
Kek none of this gay shit exists in historical wargames. Why is it like this pretty much exclusively with Games Workshop games?
Anonymous No.96486159 [Report]
>>96486145
Publicly traded company with enough volume to collect parasites.
Anonymous No.96486167 [Report]
>>96485851
>no dudes
>no exploits
If an army was 'noticeably' less likely to win, it wouldn't need to be hyperauristically analysed to the point of determining it's 'mathematically' less likely to win. Such 'noticeable' differences have been solved by gentlemen's agreements in gaming clubs and even in pickup games for years and years, but here you are pointing to a three percentage point difference among tourneyfags' game outcomes as the reason you keep losing your games during the listbuilding phase of the game.
Anonymous No.96486186 [Report]
>>96486145
Accessibility of the IP and wide availability of rules and models I guess. The barrier to entry is so low that even the supine protoplasmic jellies manage to ooze their way into the game. The amount of effort required to get started in the (GW) hobby becomes the level of effort they maintain during their entire time in the hobby.
Anonymous No.96486187 [Report]
>>96485555
People wouldn't say Kremlo came from space if Kremlo didn't come from space, c'mon.
Anonymous No.96486200 [Report]
>>96486145
>Why is it
because historicals aren't that popular
standardisation and competitive gaming arise from mass spread
if you want a non competitive and narrative gaming in fantasy wargaming you need to step away into the places where the popularisation of said games happen and expresses itself: random players at random game stores and tournament scenes

do that and suddenly you have likeminded friends in an enclosed club throwing their models on lovely crafted tables to have fun with challenges that start with "how would..." and not "who would..."
Anonymous No.96486211 [Report] >>96486221
>>96486103
>flat PVC dinner plate objective markers
>in a black and turquoise Esports color scheme
>with a sponsor's name and logo emblazoned on them
Anonymous No.96486221 [Report] >>96486234
>>96486211
It's AoS. TOW typically has more SOVL
Anonymous No.96486234 [Report] >>96486312
>>96486221
Is this bait?
Anonymous No.96486243 [Report] >>96486260 >>96486296 >>96486499 >>96486773 >>96486804 >>96487479
How do you store/display your dudes anons?

I'm thinking of doing this ikea hack (not my picture) that combines a cabinet and a bookcase. Airbrush kit in the cabinet, armies on the shelves, each shelf will be flocked, have bits of terrain, the background painted in a watercolor landscape, and clear perspex across the front to keep the dust out. Thought it would be a nice hobby project in itself.

But before I go ahead I thought I'd see how others might have done it. Any thoughts or experiences welcome.
Anonymous No.96486260 [Report] >>96486285 >>96486301 >>96486973
>>96486243
>armies on the shelves
Anonymous No.96486266 [Report]
>>96485407 (OP)
Am I taking crazy pills? I thought Characteristic tests were always 7+. As in, if d6+stat = 7+ its a pass. When did they change it to roll equal to or less than stat? It's the exact same distribution, and way easier to remember since the vast majority of the time, higher rolls are better.
Anonymous No.96486285 [Report]
>>96486260
That's exactly the kind of aesthetic I want to avoid lol. Cramped, no effort other than putting the figures on a veneered shelf, collecting dust from the rest of the unkempt room. Basically I want to make each shelf like an armies on parade display board.
Anonymous No.96486296 [Report] >>96486305 >>96486687 >>96486818 >>96486973
>>96486243
Displaying your toys/collectibles on a shelf is some serious redditor behavior
Anonymous No.96486301 [Report]
>>96486260
What a disengnous post. "Is this pose good for photos"
"No"
>Post Amberlyn Reid in pose as proof that the pose is not photogenic.
Everything looks bad when demonstrated with Funko pops because Funko pops are inherently evil.
Anonymous No.96486305 [Report] >>96486310
>>96486296
>I let my wife brow beat me into hiding all of the interests in a box under the bed like I'm a 14 year old hiding porn mags.
Anonymous No.96486310 [Report] >>96486317
>>96486305
On the contrary anon, is actually 14 yo behavior to put your toys on a display shelf
Anonymous No.96486311 [Report]
>thread filling up with the same old shit terrain pictures that are already on another thread that is still up
fuck off perryfag
Anonymous No.96486312 [Report] >>96486708
>>96486234
>one random table from gods know where, using matched play objectives that were added 2 months ago
You're desperate for attention.
Anonymous No.96486317 [Report] >>96486322
>>96486310
>Taking pride in your work is childish
Anonymous No.96486322 [Report] >>96486325 >>96486340 >>96487920
>>96486317
nta but it's not work, it's basically coloring books for slightly older people.
Anonymous No.96486325 [Report] >>96486355 >>96486582
>>96486322
post your models
Anonymous No.96486340 [Report] >>96487920
>>96486322
I was gonna say the same thing but you put it succinctly.
Anonymous No.96486355 [Report] >>96486359 >>96487920
>>96486325
I did last thread. My statement shouldn't upset you, it's simply the truth, no more, no less.
Unless you're an actual professional painter painting display pieces, what we're doing is just the equivalent of filling up 3D coloring books for fun.
That's not work, we're not accomplishing anything, we're just playing with toy soldiers as an entertaining way to pass time.
Anonymous No.96486359 [Report] >>96486366 >>96486446
>>96486355
>Work
>1. Physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production... of something
Quality or monitary value is not part of the definition.
Anonymous No.96486365 [Report] >>96486400
Question for the beastmen players.
Gors - Two weapons or shields? With the changes to infantry since the update I've been really torn on which to use.
Anonymous No.96486366 [Report]
>>96486359
>tfw I work every day towards the production of big fat dumps
Anonymous No.96486376 [Report] >>96486432
>>96485893
Twice shown in G&F. The first book has a chaos lady who is devoted to a khorne daemon and they use tactics and siege weaponry. The later is the Gore Wolf on the skull road. Even in the short story the everliving the guy is deceiving as a khorne acolyte
Anonymous No.96486400 [Report]
>>96486365
As follow up, its for this list for a match today. Shields seem best for taking the charge, two weapons for making the charge. But the ungors seem like throwing spears kind of got fucked except for losing models prior to charging.

Thoughts?

Wild Herd list
++ Characters [285 pts] ++
Great Bray-Shaman [285 pts]
(Braystaff, Wizard [Level 3 Wizard], General, On foot, Full Plate Chaos Armour, Hagtree Fetish, Horn of the First Beast, Pelt of Midnight, Lore of Primal Magic)
Your notes: Skin of Man - 15pts

++ Core Units [341 pts] ++
Primal Warherd [165 pts]
(Standard bearer [Banner of Outrage], Musician, 10x Gors [5x Hand weapons + Shields + 5x Additional hand weapons], 10x Ungors [5x Thrusting spears + Shields + 5x Throwing spears + Shields])

10 Ungor Herd [57 pts]
(Shortbows, Ambushers, Half-horn)

10 Ungor Herd [67 pts]
(Shortbows, Ambushers, Half-horn)

1 Razorgor Herd [52 pts]
(Hand weapons (tusks), Light armour (calloused hide))

++ Special Units [359 pts] ++
8 Centigor Herd [184 pts]
(Hand weapons, Great weapons, Javelins, Ambushers, Gorehoof)

Preyton [175 pts]
(Hand weapons (Claws and fangs), Twisted antlers, Ambushers, Frenzy)
Anonymous No.96486404 [Report]
>>96485787
That image literally made me gag. What have these 'people' done to my hobby
Anonymous No.96486427 [Report]
>>96485893
In lore or IRL? Because IRL I'm going to have to say no.
Anonymous No.96486432 [Report]
>>96486376
Good examples
There's a Chaos POV novel too, I forget which one, where four chaos lords are besieging a city. The Nurgle, Slaanesh, and Tzeentch lords are all shown to be less tactically adept than the Khornate lord, who has a knowledge of seigecraft and tactics, and he plays the "practical" role w.r.t. managing logistics and stuff while the others are more focused on getting glory or pleasing the gods
Anonymous No.96486446 [Report]
>>96486359
2025 and niggas are still copy/pasting definitions from Google as a form of argumentation lmfao
Anonymous No.96486493 [Report]
>>96486145
>Kek none of this gay shit exists in historical wargames.
It absolutely does. You can see tournament rankings for shit like ADLG, DBM, and Flames of War.
Anonymous No.96486499 [Report] >>96486687
>>96486243
Put them on a shelf in a pseudo-diorama style
Anonymous No.96486582 [Report] >>96486654 >>96486762 >>96486979 >>96487034 >>96488305
>>96486325
Your turn... nigger
Anonymous No.96486654 [Report]
>>96486582
Perry God.. I kneel
Anonymous No.96486664 [Report] >>96486781
>>96481932
Holy shit after 8 hours of gluing stuff it all went back together.
60 zombies, 20 ghouls, 3 spirit hosts, 5 hexwraiths, 5 wolves, a black coach, a mortis, 3 bat swarms, a cairn wraith, a strigoi and Vlad and I only lost a couple of small bats from the swarms and some fingers from a ghoul.

I don't think I'll be able to carry the mortis anywhere without it exploding into little pieces though. It might be time to find another (and preferably smaller) proxy/stl.
Anonymous No.96486687 [Report]
>>96486296
Why would I not make a display for my hobby projects in my own hobby room? Where do you keep your dudes after you've finished them then, for comparison?

>>96486499
Yeah that's the plan, I thought why stop at painting the minis when there are so many more creative bits you can do with the hobby. Why not learn watercolor to create the landscapes they stand in front of, why not make terrain and diorama pieces for the ground they stand upon
Anonymous No.96486708 [Report] >>96486745
>>96486312
...as opposed to the other random table from god knows where?
Anonymous No.96486731 [Report]
Post objective markers and unit fillers.
Anonymous No.96486745 [Report] >>96486770 >>96486787 >>96486795 >>96486806
>>96486708
As opposed to 95% of the tables of every tow tournament.
What's even funnier is that the pic you posted isn't even comparable to the one you replied to in the first place.
Anonymous No.96486749 [Report]
>>96485851
No because this isn't a sterile ass chess game, its WARHAMMER and that means it's your guys against some other dude's guys and you're telling a story of a glorious battle first and foremost
Anonymous No.96486756 [Report] >>96486957
For those whose main armies aren't doing so good, what's a chance that would balance your army out?

https://oldworldrankings.com/faction_stats
Anonymous No.96486762 [Report]
>>96486582
Do you actually own any warhammer?
Lol if you played imperial guard I would half expect you to use army men from a dollar store
Anonymous No.96486770 [Report] >>96486789 >>96486791
>>96486745
I didn't post shit, I just pointed out it was autistic to have a big spergout about a single image when that was posted in response to.... a single image.
Which it is.
Anonymous No.96486773 [Report]
>>96486243
Themed inserts for each army would look cool and immersive
Anonymous No.96486781 [Report] >>96486823
>>96486664
Glad you managed to salvage them dude, it's a really nice custom army. Wtf happened? The bottoms of the bases looked magnetised and they looked like they were in a metal tin, suggesting they'd have been fairly secure?
Anonymous No.96486782 [Report]
>>96485671
Based balanced chorfs
Anonymous No.96486787 [Report] >>96486793
>>96486745

This looks awful.
Anonymous No.96486788 [Report]
>>96485787
>"""win rates""" contributed to the T-sportification and overall decline of 40
GW hard pushing commodification of the hobby did that. Blaming it on attempts to balance is putting the cart before the horse.
Anonymous No.96486789 [Report]
>>96486770
Nobody's having a sperg out and it's a picture of 3 tables titled "1500pts tournament" which really adds to the fact that there's no equivalence and therefore that your intervention is quite literally pointless.
Anonymous No.96486791 [Report] >>96486878
>>96486770
If I played IG I would use these, actually. I've considered it
Anonymous No.96486793 [Report]
>>96486787
ok drama queen
Anonymous No.96486795 [Report] >>96486797
>>96486745
Genuinely depressing.
Anonymous No.96486797 [Report]
>>96486795
Still miles ahead of clear plastic L shape ruins
Anonymous No.96486804 [Report] >>96486856
>>96486243
Needs a china cabinet or display case that closes so you don't have to dust.
Anonymous No.96486806 [Report] >>96486831
>>96486745
>retarded flat battlemat with CGI plants and rocks on it, looking like an early 2000's RTS game map
>fish tank decorations randomly tossed around the table as "scatter terrain"
Lol...lmfao
Anonymous No.96486818 [Report]
>>96486296
Nigga you're dumb as fuck.
Why would you spend hundreds of hours painting to them keep them hidden away in a box somewhere?
Anonymous No.96486823 [Report] >>96486874
>>96486781
Cheers, had a leg cramp and fell down the stairs with it, the magnets weren't strong enough to old the stuff that were stuck vertically unfortunately and the mortis is so heavy it just bounced off and around, smashing everything inside.
Anonymous No.96486831 [Report] >>96486835
>>96486806
You're just embarrassing yourself my guy, spamming won't help the damage control.
Anonymous No.96486835 [Report] >>96486859
>>96486831
It's my first time weighing in on this argument. Keep coping
Anonymous No.96486842 [Report]
average aelves enjoyer
Anonymous No.96486856 [Report] >>96486912
>>96486804
Nice setup, exactly the kind of thing I'm thinking of. For a dust cover I was thinking of 3d printing these mounts which hold a perspex sheet. They're magnetized so can be removed for access to the shelf, and perspex cut to size is really cheap.
Anonymous No.96486859 [Report]
>>96486835
You're not weighing on anything lmao, you're done.
Anonymous No.96486874 [Report]
>>96486823
Damn, well it's good you were able to save the majority anyway. Maybe make a separate box with built in straight jacket for the mortis engine lol.
Anonymous No.96486878 [Report]
>>96486791
Where do you get these guys?
Anonymous No.96486912 [Report] >>96487013 >>96487621 >>96492360
>>96486856
IDK how much room you have but I would definitely look into China Cabinets at resale shops. I got a pretty nice one for $40. Comes with lighting and storage under too. My plan is to do a ln army per shelf.
Anonymous No.96486932 [Report]
>>96485671
Based Chatay, I love those japs
Anonymous No.96486957 [Report] >>96486996
>>96486756
>Lizardmen
The simplest fix is to just revert Cold Blooded back to its old form and let it be used for all Leadership tests, not just Panic, Fear, and Terror. Lizards always had relatively low leadership values to balance out the fact that they got a third die. Losing that third die for important Leadership tests like Break Tests and Stupidity (I lost a game because my Cold Ones sat and did nothing for three fucking turns in a row) and not giving a boost to the Ld values really hurts.

Also, revert scaly skin back so it stacks with any armour worn, not replaces it. Temple Guard should have better armour than Saurus.

Also also, give Krox their 4+ scaly skin again.

Also also also, fix Fear so units can't just ignore it for high unit strength. Units that cause Fear are usually small, units that are most vulnerable to Fear are in bit blocks. Fear has been utterly negated by letting big numbers just ignore the effect. Big numbers should get a bonus to the roll, but not ignore it all together.

Oh, and put Slann on 60mm bases and let them integrate into Saurus/Temple Guard units again. Fucking stupid to keep them off to the side.
Anonymous No.96486973 [Report] >>96486981 >>96487005
>>96486296
>>96486260
if you're this ashamed of your hobby why even engage with it then?
Anonymous No.96486979 [Report] >>96487054
>>96486582
>guy sitting up the thread is perrynigger

Hey you know what's really childish? Forcing your wife to play a game with so you can save face from strangers on the internet
Anonymous No.96486981 [Report] >>96486997 >>96487061
>>96486973
>if you can't jerk off in public why even jerk off?
Based degenerate.
Anonymous No.96486996 [Report] >>96487068
>>96486957
NTA, but I think drenched should give +1 or +2 to having spells cast on them. As a way to make their magic better but requiring a few more steps. And obviously amphibious prevents being drenched.
Anonymous No.96486997 [Report] >>96487008
>>96486981
>but showing people on the internet pictures of you jerking off isn't degenerate
Anonymous No.96487005 [Report]
>>96486973
He's a perrynigger here for (you's) as no historical player wants to play with him.
Anonymous No.96487008 [Report] >>96487026 >>96487048 >>96487061 >>96487101
>>96486997
The point isn't whether you're a degenerate or not, the point is whether you publicly expose yourself as one or not.
You're slow.
Anonymous No.96487009 [Report] >>96488047
posted about my blood dragons yesterday these are the two horses I am stuck between. I also have the old blood knights if that means anything.
Anonymous No.96487013 [Report]
>>96486912
Thanks for the idea anon, I didn't even know china cabinets with some lighting were a thing. I knew I'd have to figure out the internal lighting situation at some point but was putting it off. I'll go see what I can find now, cheers!
Anonymous No.96487026 [Report]
>>96487008
Again, how is me making a display for my hobby projects in my own hobby room akin to "publicly exposing myself as a degenerate", I don't see how the analogy fits.
Anonymous No.96487034 [Report] >>96487158
>>96486582
>Perry nigger is the guy with the nicely painted buzz light-year toy
Man, my home world is upsidedown.
Anonymous No.96487048 [Report] >>96487063
>>96487008
If the point isn't that you're a degenerate for exposing yourself and therefore is bad because being a degenerate is bad, than what's bad about exposing it?
Anonymous No.96487054 [Report] >>96487081
>>96486979
Meds
Anonymous No.96487061 [Report] >>96487078 >>96487087
>>96486981
>>96487008
>xes so ashamed of miniature models xe equates them to public masturbation
why are you even in this hobby then?
Anonymous No.96487063 [Report] >>96487106
>>96487048
Truly a fucking mystery I guess you're going to have to find that one out by yourself when you go out or stop being retarded, I don't know.
Anonymous No.96487068 [Report]
>>96486996
I haven't used a Slann yet since I was really disappointed in their rules but my little Skink Priest on Stegadon with the Engine of the Gods has been a little powerhouse getting +1 to his casts from the Engine. But Drenched should at least give -1 to movement and charge rolls so melee units can actually be affected by it.

Oh, and what the fuck is up with Stegadons not having any AP on their impact hits? Should be -3, or at least -2, just to differentiate from -3 that their horns do in close combat.
Anonymous No.96487078 [Report] >>96487137
>>96487061
>why are you even in this hobby then?
Like most people, depression and not having much else to do.
Why do you think that shit's popular in shitty countries with shit weather
Anonymous No.96487081 [Report]
>>96487054
>no I'm not perry nugger I swear I just have the exact same miniatures that are painted and based the same way in the same garage with the same maps on the walls.

I get you want to distance yourself from the fact you doxxed your own family and post naked pictures of yourself online to solicit naked pictures of other men but you're really bad at the whole "anonymity" thing.
Anonymous No.96487087 [Report]
>>96487061
Even if you're highly ashamed of your hobby you're displaying it in your hobby room in your own house.

It's like having a bdsm dungeon but being too embarrassed to display the whips and chains.
Anonymous No.96487101 [Report] >>96487122
>>96487008
Is not a public exposure tho, it's a display in his own house.
Anonymous No.96487106 [Report] >>96487122
>>96487063
says the guy trying to say that a private display is analogous to exposing yourself in public
Anonymous No.96487122 [Report] >>96487141 >>96487150 >>96487160 >>96487172 >>96487237 >>96487621 >>96488075
>>96487101
>>96487106
>the coom cave dwellers who don't know what it is to have a family with friends and guests coming in and out of the house.
Anonymous No.96487137 [Report]
>>96487078
>Like most people, depression and not having much else to do.
Speak for yourself, bit of a self report that one lad
Anonymous No.96487141 [Report]
>>96487122
>being so insecure that your family and friends see that you play with very expensive little plastic army men
At least you would be insecure if you owned any models.
Begone, secondary. You have no place here except to troll.
Anonymous No.96487150 [Report] >>96487168
>>96487122
Better to do something passionately then try to be a soulless npc without any personality or identity. Maybe you should go dust the "live laugh love." Sign hanging over your TV.
Anonymous No.96487158 [Report] >>96487266 >>96488001
>>96487034
Perrynigger is a mystery to me. He obviously cares about the hobby a lot and puts more effort into his models and terrain than most on this board, he looks like a normal relatively handsome dude with a wife and children, I agree with a lot of his points that he spams - but the way he does it is very odd and mentally unstable. Why does he act this way? I don't understand it. If he behaved normally we would probably like him and welcome him in the thread
Anonymous No.96487160 [Report] >>96487191
>>96487122
I cant even imagine being so sheepish about painting models that I would be afraid of my own family finding out.
Thats genuinely pathetic
Anonymous No.96487168 [Report] >>96487189
>>96487150
Nothing screams soulless npc more than being an adult and collecting warhammer toy soldier or pokemon/magic cards or whatever else soulless corpo product you had/wanted when you were a kid
Anonymous No.96487172 [Report] >>96487183
>>96487122
If family and friends don't want to spend time in my hobby room they are welcome to spend time in the living room, the dining room, the conservatory, or on the garden patio. They are of course welcome to come and chill in the hobby room too, since it has armchairs in there, that's up to them. Not quite sure what your point is.
Anonymous No.96487183 [Report] >>96487228
>>96487172
Personally I tell them to go into ball room and to avoid the boudoir.
Anonymous No.96487189 [Report] >>96487196
>>96487168
Nothing screams desperate troll like 0/8 b8 insulting silly tabletop hobbies on the silly tabletop hobby board.
Anonymous No.96487191 [Report] >>96487206 >>96487219
>>96487160
>he said with a smirk, living alone having no family of his own while posting basedjacks
Anonymous No.96487196 [Report]
>>96487189
huh so it's silly now, how quint
Anonymous No.96487206 [Report] >>96487225
>>96487191
You're projecting that part, man.
Anonymous No.96487217 [Report]
Funny how the perry guy bounces from general to general shitting them up in turn until he knows the jig is up so moves onto the next one in rotation. /awg/ must feel so relieved right now.
Anonymous No.96487219 [Report]
>>96487191
I actually live in my moms basement but ill let you hide your minis here so nobody can judge you
Anonymous No.96487225 [Report] >>96487269 >>96487271 >>96487273 >>96488172
>>96487206
Sure bud, typical busy family man with children shitposting basedjack memes on /tg/ on a Saturday. I don't know why you're lying to yourself.
Anonymous No.96487228 [Report]
>>96487183
You may be American idk, those are pretty normal names for rooms in the UK.
Anonymous No.96487237 [Report] >>96487246
>>96487122
>they might see.... that I painted something!!!!!
Anonymous No.96487246 [Report] >>96487278
>>96487237
>collect toy soldiers*
Anonymous No.96487266 [Report]
>>96487158
>Why does he act this way?

It's a coping mechanism, he obviously has a great shame for many things he does, like posting naked pictures of himself on public forums to solict pictures of other men, and treating other, more mundane activities as something to be ashamed of, like owning miniatures, makes him feel like he's just like everyone else. Essentially, if everyone is engaging in shameful activities then what he does is fine too.
Anonymous No.96487269 [Report] >>96487298
>>96487225
I'm not even that anon, he might also live elsewhere, and insulting people online doesn't take much time, unless you intend on giving (you) on hours on end.
Anonymous No.96487271 [Report]
>>96487225
thank goodness I have no friends and/or family. Then they might find out I have a hobby!!!!
Anonymous No.96487273 [Report]
>>96487225
>you're projecting
>no I'm not! I'm just making claims about someone's life based on the fact they're doing the same thing I'm doing!
Anonymous No.96487278 [Report]
>>96487246
DEAR GOD! THE HORROR!
Anonymous No.96487296 [Report] >>96487321
>perryanon returns
>thread immediately turns to shit
>also the most active it's been in months
Well well well
Anonymous No.96487297 [Report] >>96487311
>2025
>Not having your gf/bf/children/owner/hostages paint background scenery to display your still unpainted models
Anonymous No.96487298 [Report] >>96487330 >>96487339 >>96487350
>>96487269
If you take that as an insult that your bad. It's just the reality of the demographics who play warhammer or collect magic/pokemon cards.
25-35 years old men with no children. You might all get upset when that fact is spoken but that just won't change the reality of the situation.
We're going through an entire generation of manchildren, that's factual and spamming me with coping replies won't do shit.
Anonymous No.96487311 [Report]
>>96487297
Based, exactly the kind of setup I had in mind, cheers anon
Anonymous No.96487321 [Report]
>>96487296
If it’s any consolation he decided to shit up40k first
Anonymous No.96487330 [Report] >>96487359
>>96487298
Nobody's getting upset by it anon, you just want your "you may not like [average take that everyone and their mother knows] but it's true, and only I will say it" moment.

If you actually want to contribute something to the thread - where do you store your models when you've painted them?
Anonymous No.96487339 [Report]
>>96487298
This solidifies that its all projection or did you take a census of every person thats plays warhammer?
Anonymous No.96487350 [Report] >>96487453
>>96487298
>If you take that as an insult
Are you an ESL? I was saying anon was insulting you, not that anyone was feeling insulted by whatever you're saying.
Anonymous No.96487359 [Report] >>96487368
>>96487330
>Nobody's getting upset by it anon
hahahaha
Anonymous No.96487368 [Report] >>96487401
>>96487359
You don't fancy answering my question? No?
Anonymous No.96487401 [Report] >>96487416 >>96487558
>>96487368
Nobody cares about your question, which is why nobody replies.
Everybody's upset about my one remark, which is why I get spammed by coping retards, including you. So instead of pretending you want to talk about something else, how about you don't fucking pile on in the first place?
Anonymous No.96487402 [Report] >>96487405 >>96487572
I'm having an absolutely miserable time assembling miaoying, and I haven't even started on the dragon form.
Anonymous No.96487405 [Report]
>>96487402
Have you tried using both hands?
Anonymous No.96487416 [Report] >>96487437
>>96487401
>Everybody's upset about my one remark
people are laughing at you, don't mistake it for anything else
Anonymous No.96487437 [Report]
>>96487416
That would be the "coping" part of the "coping retards" two parts combo.
Anonymous No.96487453 [Report]
>>96487350
xhes latinx
Anonymous No.96487479 [Report] >>96487582 >>96487633 >>96487665
Attention grabbing vtuber pic

Got any good ideas for Knights of Manann? I'm trying to plan out my Marienburg army collection, and I figured most other Knightly orders wouldn't associate with a rogue city state that the Imperial beaucracy is still fuming about, which leaves the Knights of Manaan since they're based out of Marienburg itself.
I was thinking tassels and capes stylized to look like seaweed, icons, fetishes, and helmets/helmet crests that look like fish and sea monsters, and of course the Manaan Trident on shields, and maybe even have their lances have a Trident on the end?

>>96486103
That whole scene is just fine and it looks great except for the objective markers good crimminy.
Why can't people just grab a 60mm base and make a little diorama or something? Hell, keep the PVC dinner plates but attach each to a 60mm diorama.
Competition can still look nice come on now.

>>96486243
Right now it's mostly show boxes but I'm going to buy myself some real boxes with foam inserts and all. Hate the whole schtick now where people magnetize Rubbermaid containers; such an inefficient use of space. As for storage, I was just gunna pile said cases into a corner and or beneath the bed.
Anonymous No.96487558 [Report] >>96487564
>>96487401
>Nobody cares about your question, which is why nobody replies.
You are ignoring the reality of the thread in favour of what suits your personal bias.
>Everybody's upset about my one remark
You are ignoring the reality of the thread in favour of what you want (need) to be true.
>which is why I get spammed by coping retards, including you
Replies to your posts are not spam lol.
>So instead of pretending you want to talk about something else
I'm not pretending anything, I literally want to bring the thread back to warhammer. Where do you store your models after you've painted them anon?
>how about you don't fucking pile on in the first place?
Nobody is piling on you, you thin-skinned sensitive little soul lol.

Now if you want to tell us where you store your models after you've painted them that'd be swell.
Anonymous No.96487564 [Report] >>96487665
>>96487558
>he's still going
Anonymous No.96487572 [Report]
>>96487402
Good. Cathay players should suffer.
Anonymous No.96487582 [Report]
>>96487479
>I figured most other Knightly orders wouldn't associate with a rogue city state
I figure most would for the right donation. Chapter houses aren't cheap.
Anonymous No.96487621 [Report] >>96487658 >>96492730
>>96486912
Gf got me this guy from taobao for cheap and its been pretty decent, only problem is theres a small gap at the top of each, so moths and shit sneak through it to get at the lights and then die inside.
Mainly use it to store shit Im not actively using for games or working on so theres no WHFB in there.
>>96487122
>not having a display in your livingroom so all your guests can see
Very beta and gay anon
You'd be surprised how much unprompted interest normie visitors show in stuff like this, its a shame to hide it away
Anonymous No.96487633 [Report]
>>96487479
>maybe even have their lances have a Trident on the end?
That would be good. Maybe see if you can get some of those old gladiator fish helmets.
Anonymous No.96487658 [Report]
>>96487621
Yeah. I got a pretty cheap one from Temu. I regret not shopping around resale places first. The doors are slightly offset and it's generally cheaper and shoddier than I'd like.
Anonymous No.96487665 [Report] >>96487676
>>96487564
You're clearly shutting down. Wouldn't want to further jeopardise the reality you need to be true, so I'll leave you to seethe in your corner. If you want to join the warhammer chat feel free to come back at any time.

>>96487479
>Rubbermaid containers
I had to Google them, they look like the 'really useful boxes' we have over here (that Duncan used for his video about magnetised storage). I've made a couple of them and they're great for carrying minis around securely, but after having my dudes in these boxes in a cupboard for the last year or so it just seems a shame, hence why I thought I'd try something different.
Also if you get foam inserts just beware of the foam rubbing your paintwork off! A good coat of varnish will go a long way to preventing that.
Anonymous No.96487676 [Report]
>>96487665
You're mentally ill my man, seek help.
Anonymous No.96487712 [Report] >>96487827 >>96487960 >>96487980 >>96492138
>WFRP 4e
Would you allow outdoor survival to be used to slum it out as a homeless guy in a populated city?
Anonymous No.96487827 [Report] >>96487878 >>96489261
>>96487712
I don't play WHFRPG but it's there no more appropriate skill? I would probably allow it at a significant penalty.
Anonymous No.96487878 [Report]
>>96487827
The only homelessness related advice in the book is that Charm should be used for begging, but that doesn't really fit.
Anonymous No.96487920 [Report] >>96488082
>>96486322
>>96486340
>>96486355
even if its straightforward its still art. Even at a basic level its still impressive to complete an entire project like an army or display piece. If you try and boil everything down to simplistic terms then of course it doesn't sound very cool but your deliberately ignoring the rest of the process in order to be negative.
Anonymous No.96487960 [Report] >>96489261
>>96487712
If he's a pro beggar then i'd let him, otherwise with penalty
Anonymous No.96487980 [Report] >>96489261
>>96487712
Sure, tests would probably all be hard at the minumum tho unless theyre a native to the city or somethin
Anonymous No.96488001 [Report]
>>96487158
I actually don't think he's mentally unstable at all. His shitposting doesn't seem like an unstable autist sperging out, it seems a lot more malicious than that, it seems like very calculated and intentional derailing and sabotage
Anonymous No.96488047 [Report]
>>96487009
>I also have the old blood knights if that means anything.
left of course
Anonymous No.96488075 [Report] >>96488108 >>96488126
>>96487122
My wife and I have our primary armies in a single display case, arranged to look like they are mid-combat. Our daughter has her painted unicorn figures on a shelf below our display.
Anonymous No.96488082 [Report] >>96488104 >>96488178 >>96488588
>>96487920
>even if its straightforward its still art.
God no. I'm not an artfag. Artfags are fucking pathetic, they're all egotistical snowflakes desperate for recognition.
I just want an army of little dudes so I can go to pretend war.
Anonymous No.96488104 [Report] >>96488119
>>96488082
why do you assume that making art equates you to being an artfag? I can make dinner without calling myself a chef
Anonymous No.96488108 [Report] >>96488138
>>96488075
>My wife
>Marrying a woman that plays tabletop games
Anonymous No.96488119 [Report] >>96488141
>>96488104
Nah being an artfag isn't a proper profession.
Anonymous No.96488126 [Report] >>96488138 >>96488148
>>96488075
Women don't play wargames, she's either pretending so she can do something with you or she has so much testosterone she looks like a dude
Anonymous No.96488138 [Report]
>>96488108
Married ten years with one kid and one kid due in a few months. It is wonderful. Regular tabletop is a nice bonus.
>>96488126
Nah, she's a normal woman (female). Bit of the 'tism but I prefer her love of fantasy and historical armies and painting over stupid e-whore trends and social media addiction like friends wives have.
Anonymous No.96488141 [Report] >>96488189
>>96488119
you're missing the point
Anonymous No.96488148 [Report]
>>96488126
She's probably busted af like all the other girls you occasionally see at the LGS
Anonymous No.96488172 [Report] >>96488196
>>96487225
A woman clearly lives in the house an image of which set this shitshow off in the first place.
Anonymous No.96488178 [Report] >>96488206
>>96488082
>I want an army of little dudes
>but I dont want to build or paint them
Just play videogames 2bh
Anonymous No.96488189 [Report] >>96488201 >>96488588
>>96488141
There was no point, being an artfag is a stance and the whole concept of art is claimed by artfags. If you claim something is art or call what you do art you're an artfag.
What I do assemble little dudes and color them. If I were sculpting the little dudes myself I'd be a craftsman and If I were good enough to win golden demons I'd be a painter.
Anonymous No.96488196 [Report]
>>96488172
What are you talking about
Anonymous No.96488201 [Report] >>96488206
>>96488189
>the whole concept of art is claimed by artfags
>If I were sculpting the little dudes myself I'd be a craftsman and If I were good enough to win golden demons I'd be a painter.
delusional
Anonymous No.96488206 [Report] >>96488210
>>96488201
>>96488178
Your reading comprehension is abysmal.
Anonymous No.96488210 [Report] >>96488358
>>96488206
no youre just coping hard about imaginary art bogeymen
Anonymous No.96488305 [Report]
>>96486582
Is this not a shelf? Is this not litteraly what he was crying about?
Anonymous No.96488358 [Report] >>96488385
>>96488210
Found the artfag lmao
Anonymous No.96488385 [Report] >>96488394 >>96488519
>>96488358
>are they in the room with us now?
Anonymous No.96488394 [Report] >>96488476
>>96488385
Yeah I just found it, it called coloring warhammers art.
Anonymous No.96488444 [Report] >>96491573
>>96485945
Thank you!
Are the blades now fixed to the body? Or are they disassembled?

I'm surprised that no pins were needed for the blades, but I'm glad to see you found and alternative. I like the added gluing surface of the ring; and the shield top is a nice clean up touch.
Anonymous No.96488476 [Report] >>96488492
>>96488394
sounds based
Anonymous No.96488492 [Report] >>96488501
>>96488476
Sounds desperate and deluded.
Anonymous No.96488501 [Report] >>96488507
>>96488492
are you really this insecure? im not the one crying about "artfags"
Anonymous No.96488507 [Report] >>96488519
>>96488501
huh? How did you even come to this conclusion in that nebulous artfag brain of yours lol
Anonymous No.96488519 [Report] >>96488528
>>96488507
>>96488385
Anonymous No.96488528 [Report] >>96488588
>>96488519
I guess you need me to rephrase it more clearly: how do you relate that to insecurities?
Anonymous No.96488588 [Report] >>96488611
>>96488528
you forgetting your own posts now?
>>96488082
>>96488189
Anonymous No.96488596 [Report] >>96489088 >>96489142
Yesterday I played 1250 point Heroic Last Stand.

The Chaos were trying to perform a ritual to escape to the chaos wastes through a portal but were ambushed by Night Goblins.

After a bloody battle with many killed each side, only two were left. Everyone else had been slaughtered by a demented onslought of squig riders and squig bosses. The Chaos Ogres to their credit annihilated a Night goblin unit in a single turn after breaking them.

After an unrelenting bloodbath, because they endured for 5 turns, the portal opened, allowing Korgoth and his Chosen Knight Champion survivor to achieve a minor victory and return to the Chaos Wastes

There was a point the Chosen Knights and Korgoth were charged in the rear by 6 squigs, front by 2 trolls and the side by a squig boss and miraculously won the combat.

Not gonna lie, this game was way too stressful than it should have. Played around 20+ games since July and even though I won, felt more exhausted than anything. It might be time for a wee break. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!
Anonymous No.96488611 [Report] >>96488628
>>96488588
And having contempt for artfags means I'm insecure because...?
Anonymous No.96488628 [Report] >>96488632
>>96488611
Because your throwing a tantrum over being equated to them (by your own arbitrary standards no less)
Anonymous No.96488632 [Report]
>>96488628
pfpffhahah ok dude
Anonymous No.96488848 [Report] >>96488883 >>96488909 >>96488954 >>96488995 >>96489038 >>96489106
Got to play a 1250p game against Warriors of Chaos today with my beastmen. We made our lists and then we rolled for the mission and got #5, the mountain pass.
In short I lost the game, but not without a fight. I brought down both his units of chaos knights, and in the end he only had his units of chosen and his chaos lord left, but in the end he won with more points.
All in all it was a great battle, lots of bants, and casual warhammer fun.

>inb4 unpainted models
we're both painting in a glacial pace but we're at least working on our minis.
Anonymous No.96488883 [Report]
>>96488848
Here's a more narrative take on the battle I've strung up from the events of the game and how we both imagine it would play out in a "cinematic" way.
Anonymous No.96488909 [Report] >>96489187
>>96488848
Nice textured table and army, such a shame about the opponent. It really ruins the whole thing
Anonymous No.96488954 [Report]
>>96488848
I personally think unpainted minis should be punishable by death but never playing is actually worse.
Anonymous No.96488995 [Report]
>>96488848
>we are both working on our minis
That nigga has like 1 single hour of work put into his models, he is putting in no effort to paint them unless he assembled that army this morning
Anonymous No.96489008 [Report]
Is there anything that stops you from reacting with multiple units to 1 enemy action?
Anonymous No.96489038 [Report] >>96489092 >>96489138
>>96488848
What kind of moron primes his models white just to paint 90% of the model black? Hello? Retard alert!
Anonymous No.96489088 [Report] >>96489345
>>96488596
The deployment of armies. Squig hoppers hurt!
Anonymous No.96489092 [Report] >>96489113
>>96489038
Priming in general is a waste of time unless you just want to use contrast paints on white. I painted 250+ models and never had any problem with the paint not adhering to the surface, polystyrene and resin models.
Anonymous No.96489106 [Report] >>96489201
>>96488848
Did that guy really just bring 2 knight units and 1 chosen knight unit? Hard luck man but good job taking the knights.

In case you meet him again, you can bait the knights as they'll have frenzy if khorne, flee with your unit then countercharge with others.
Anonymous No.96489113 [Report] >>96489123
>>96489092
Sure that's great when you're a nogames, but for those of us who actually play, it's important to prime your models or the paint will eventually start rubbing off on high contact areas of the models.
Anonymous No.96489123 [Report] >>96489242 >>96489566
>>96489113
ok but I play every week though. Have you heard about varnishes?
Anonymous No.96489138 [Report] >>96489181
>>96489038
It's 10 times easier to paint 90% of a white model black than it is to paint 10% of a black model white
Anonymous No.96489142 [Report] >>96489229 >>96489291
>>96488596
Smurf gobbos look dope
Anonymous No.96489181 [Report]
>>96489138
true
Anonymous No.96489187 [Report]
>>96488909
Thanks, glad you like the table and such, but as I said we both have our lives and hobby time is infrequent.
Anonymous No.96489201 [Report] >>96489248
>>96489106
What's the point of doing that instead of just counter charging with your cav in the first place
Anonymous No.96489229 [Report]
>>96489142
He is a typical NG player, lovely bloke and passionate. Gorgous unit fillers and my photos do zero justice to his troll hag. Mind he didn't even bring fanatics, not that he needed two. Squig hoppers and bosses are insane!

Still, too stressful despite being a regular game.
Anonymous No.96489242 [Report] >>96489327
>>96489123
>y-yeah I play every week...j-j-just trust m-me...!"
Anonymous No.96489248 [Report] >>96489319
>>96489201
Assuming the knights were khorne, they MUST charge. If he lures the chaos knights into a bait and flee and the follow up chargers for the beastmen are within 7", the chaos knights can't use counter charge.

If they don't have khorne mark, their offensive capacity is minimal..
Anonymous No.96489261 [Report]
>>96487827
>>96487960
>>96487980
Should there really be a penalty though? There's tons of shelter and food running around.
Anonymous No.96489291 [Report] >>96489319
>>96489142
Here is a closer pic. Korgoth and his last man killing some of the smurfs. I forgot stubborn which could have helped a lot.
Anonymous No.96489319 [Report] >>96489345
>>96489248
Oh ok I see, I think the confusion come from the fact that you said counter charge with the others and meant charge them when it's your turn instead of the "counter charge" game mechanic as a reaction.

>>96489291
Neat. I've never tried such scenario yet. It seems hard to balance.
Anonymous No.96489327 [Report]
>>96489242
What If I told you I put all of my army in a metal box, shook it real hard and none of the paint got scratched despite models breaking? Would that calm your petulant attitude?
Anonymous No.96489345 [Report] >>96489381
>>96489319
It is hard af to balance. It's in the main rulebook, in the Narrative battle section, third scenario.

The defender deploys everyone first as in >>96489088 via an 18" by 18" square. Then the entire enemy army deploys after, minimum 8" distance. Defender goes first.

On paper it seems the defender has the disadvantage but if they have any man alive by turn 5, they win.
Anonymous No.96489381 [Report] >>96489421
>>96489345
Interesting, I'd like to try that sometime.
>On paper it seems the defender has the disadvantage but if they have any man alive by turn 5, they win.
Looks like another easy win for the undead.
Anonymous No.96489421 [Report] >>96489440
>>96489381
In the scenario of VC and a bigger set of armies, I would wrap it back around to defenders advantage. Pop up spam summoning zombies / skeletons and just plant your Necromancers square in the middle and gg.
Anonymous No.96489440 [Report]
>>96489421
Yep, one brick of grave guards with the regen banner on the dangerous side, one big brick of skellies on the other side, the necro(s) in the middle and it's basically game over unless you get lucky deviations with templates.
Anonymous No.96489566 [Report] >>96489578
>>96489123
>removing a painting step just to add another, more annoying one at the end
Anonymous No.96489578 [Report] >>96489657
>>96489566
You don't varnish your models?

hahahaha what a fucking retard holy shit
Anonymous No.96489657 [Report] >>96489672 >>96489688
>>96489578
No, why would I? Plastic doesnt chip, primed resin barely scratches unless youre a ham-fisted retard and anything weaker than yacht varnish or laquer isnt going to do shit to protect metal from knocks.
Anonymous No.96489672 [Report] >>96489689
>>96489657
Based. The only times I varnish is for metal minis or when I've used contract paints, as they run off very easily
Anonymous No.96489688 [Report]
>>96489657
Yeah you're right champ, my bad.
Anonymous No.96489689 [Report]
>>96489672
2bh the only thing ive found that protects metal from knocks at all is rubbing thin superglue over the most damage prone edges (like action figure and gunpla guys do with joints to prevent wear) and then matte varnish over it.
But most of the time I just leave my metals at home lol
Anonymous No.96489783 [Report] >>96489824 >>96489830 >>96489843 >>96489853 >>96489858 >>96490407 >>96490741 >>96490904
im new into tabletop and i would love to get into the old world. My fav race in warhammer fantasy/total war were beatman but i just cant stand how the OLD minis looks. I saw that beastman from kill team box looks good. Do you think GW gonna refresh old models for old armies to the standards of Cathey?
Anonymous No.96489824 [Report]
>>96489783
Holy zoomer slop LMAO perhaps you should try out Age of Sigmar my nigga, seriously tho
Anonymous No.96489830 [Report]
>>96489783
No
Anonymous No.96489843 [Report]
>>96489783
No, just proxy whatever minis you dont like
Anonymous No.96489853 [Report]
>>96489783
The whole point of tow for gw originally was to keep selling old minis. Granted that may have changed now, but it's still going to take a while for all ranges to get updated to modern standards. Hell even aos still has armies with almost all old models left such as ogres (though I guess that is about to change. Beastmen also probably aren't a priority for gw.
If you really want up to date AND gw produced minis you could source beastmen kits from other factions, tzaangors, slaangors and soon to be pestigors, theridons in the place of minotaurs, and so on. But for a new player that may be a little overwhelming.

Tldr don't hold your breath
Anonymous No.96489858 [Report]
>>96489783
I don't think they'll do anytime soon. They'll release more Cathay and then Kislev first.
Have you checked 3D prints? A lot of people play with 3D printed armies and you can find amazing models out there that look better and are cheaper than GW models.
Anonymous No.96489884 [Report] >>96489912 >>96489916 >>96490708
Where are the armies like Drark Elves or Skaven?
Anonymous No.96489912 [Report]
>>96489884
They're in a better place
Anonymous No.96489916 [Report]
>>96489884
In the trash, where they belong.
Anonymous No.96490118 [Report]
Based tom and ben vodgobbo thread.
Anonymous No.96490222 [Report] >>96492013 >>96492018
Back on my BVLLshit
Anonymous No.96490407 [Report]
>>96489783
Find 3d prints, they'll be cheaper and better anyway
Anonymous No.96490708 [Report] >>96490741
>>96489884
playing 5th edition with my mates
Anonymous No.96490741 [Report]
>>96490708
Chad
>>96489783
Chud
Anonymous No.96490904 [Report]
>>96489783
unless you plan on exclusively playing at games workshop hobby stores then just use whatever minis you like as proxies (3d print)
Anonymous No.96490931 [Report] >>96491455
I talked to one of my fellow zoomers and mentioned warhammer fantasy off handedly. He told me, "Fantasy seems like a cash grab considering they already have Age of Sigmar". It was one of those moments that made me question gun ownership, I think I would have shot him if this was in person. I had to explain to him 40k came after fantasy and Sigmar after that.
Anonymous No.96490946 [Report] >>96491777 >>96492058 >>96493488
Finished a chaos champion for my army
Anonymous No.96491407 [Report] >>96491432
Does anybody know how the Landskenecht Pikemen from Warlord scale against Empire State Troops? Id rather use them because I much prefer the length of the spears but if they're comedically tall or short by comparison I'd rather not.
Anonymous No.96491432 [Report] >>96491459 >>96492426
>>96491407
https://imgur.com/a/e3hYTD4
Anonymous No.96491455 [Report]
>>96490931
Well no, he's right. The Old World IS a cash grab, after they realized there was still a huge market for WHFB after they killed it. The game itself feels like a pantomime of oldschool warhammer.

That being said, most of the old kits (excepting my beloved Forsaken) are back in print, and the new ones arw mostly not hideous, so overall it's a win. And while I like some of what Age of Sigmar has done, I wonder if it would have ever been made at all, if Games Workshop had been run by culture less business averse than the british.
Anonymous No.96491459 [Report]
>>96491432
Thanks friend.
Anonymous No.96491537 [Report] >>96492132
Got two mates who play regularly with bretonnian and chaos warrior armies and I wanna play with them. Should I go with empire? I wanna fire artillery like a retard, shoot crossbows and field a bunch of dickheads with halberds.
Anonymous No.96491573 [Report] >>96492434
>>96488444
Yes, the rotor is glued in place.
I considered keeping it separated, but it's probably at a bigger risk from falling off or mishandling.
The blade molded to the rotor center is the one hanging out, while the other two are more protected from bumps by mostly overlapping the body.
Anonymous No.96491761 [Report]
>>96485851
If 2 casual chads both take fun lists against each other, say skaven vs cathay, i bet they would split the wins. People stopped being casual chads when Reece and Frankie f***ed up 40k with tourney/e-sport faggotry
Anonymous No.96491777 [Report]
>>96490946
What's wrong with his penor?
Anonymous No.96491829 [Report]
How decent can a cult of morr list be?
Anonymous No.96492013 [Report] >>96492019
>>96490222
No one commented on my beastmen are they really that shit Q.Q
Anonymous No.96492018 [Report] >>96492056
>>96490222
Looking nice
Anonymous No.96492019 [Report] >>96492056
>>96492013
There is not much to comment on your obviously WIP minotaurs anon.
Anonymous No.96492045 [Report] >>96492071
Went to car boot sale. Got these Battle Masters lads for 50p the bag.
Anonymous No.96492052 [Report] >>96492061
The absolute state of my lgs' old world scene really doesnt give me the motivation to work on any of my miniatures.

Should i just cut my losses and go play 4th edition?
Anonymous No.96492056 [Report]
>>96492018
Thanks
>>96492019
: ^ `
Anonymous No.96492058 [Report] >>96493219 >>96493535
>>96490946
Took me a second to register who this was lmao
Anonymous No.96492061 [Report] >>96492065
>>96492052
Depends what army are you building/painting for ToW and what army do you greytide in Age of Slopmar
Anonymous No.96492065 [Report] >>96492075
>>96492061
Im talking about 4th edition warhammer fantasy
Anonymous No.96492071 [Report]
>>96492045
is this loss?
Anonymous No.96492075 [Report] >>96492078
>>96492065
>Complains no local scene for ToW
>Apparently has a 4e local scene

Ye aight nigguh
Anonymous No.96492078 [Report]
>>96492075
Bait used to be believable
Anonymous No.96492132 [Report]
>>96491537
That sounds like Empire are your thing. However do some research what troops are good / bad. 2d4chan has a good segment on all races for TOW
Anonymous No.96492138 [Report] >>96493733
>>96487712

Outdoor Survival is well suited to constructing temporary shelter and potentially something like rat-trapping. The meat you'll get from this is diseased, though, unless you're eating people's pets, which brings other problems.

I would say that tests for shelter should actually be pretty easy, since there are few dangers other than exposure, but that food should generally be diseased (or bring down the law).
Anonymous No.96492175 [Report] >>96492594
Now that I’ve got two armies finished decided to mix it up with some Mordheim, I can only pray that GW continues to not support it
Anonymous No.96492360 [Report]
>>96486912
primo aesthetics, well done
Anonymous No.96492426 [Report]
>>96491432
Where's that red Xbow dude from?
I like it a lot, very old school warhammer.
Anonymous No.96492434 [Report]
>>96491573
I'll try it with mine eventually.

Love your paintscheme.
Anonymous No.96492446 [Report]
>>96485407 (OP)
>TQ
I hate every miniature that's cast in metal.
Anonymous No.96492594 [Report] >>96492762
>>96492175
Neat minis. I never played Mordheim but I heard the rules weren't balanced at all and the game quickly fell apart.
Anonymous No.96492663 [Report]
>>96485407 (OP)
>TQ
I know some people hate this model (for some reason), but I love it. The mechanical steed is awesome.
Anonymous No.96492730 [Report]
>>96487621
Your forgeworld ork vehicles are quite admirable
Anonymous No.96492762 [Report] >>96492802 >>96495177
>>96492594
Maybe officially GW pumped and dumped Mordheim, but it's still played today even in their HQ so there's something to be said about fun despite imbalance, the main rulebook warbands are however pretty well balanced against each other.
Anonymous No.96492802 [Report] >>96493029 >>96495414
>>96492762
I mean the campaigns quickly fall apart due to imbalance.
Anonymous No.96492896 [Report] >>96492941
The biggest problem with Total War Warhammer is that when I got to look at army showcase videos I'm stuck having to scroll past a billion vidya videos to try to find actual hobby content
Anonymous No.96492941 [Report]
>>96492896
You don't look at hobby content on YouTube anymore, you look for it on Instagram.
Anonymous No.96493029 [Report]
>>96492802
Do you mean that one map, or campaign snowballs in general?
Anonymous No.96493097 [Report]
Thinking of building Nehekharan Royal Hosts TK with a base of tomb guard chariots and infantry cohorts are they nice? I know nothing of TK.
Anonymous No.96493108 [Report] >>96493475
STILL no scans/pictures of the latest AJ?? It's been out for like 2 weeks now no? Also any decent new leaks/rumours of the next AJ?
Anonymous No.96493212 [Report] >>96493320 >>96493358 >>96493383
How often do you or your opponent issue duels?
Anonymous No.96493219 [Report] >>96493488
>>96492058
I'm gonna sculpt Scroda moon next I think, this is for my slaneeshi nurgle convert warband. They got so many peepee diseases they turned to nurgle.
Anonymous No.96493320 [Report]
>>96493212
Every single one of my games I call a challenge with my general if at all possible. Even if they accept with a champion.

My general has killed so many enemies through this, only losing one.
Anonymous No.96493358 [Report]
>>96493212
Every time to the point of absurdity. I've stopped kitting my generals and heroes in killy items and instead just give them utility items along with some defensive stuff so they don't die.
Anonymous No.96493383 [Report]
>>96493212
Every time I get charged by a character on a big monster or a chariot.
Anonymous No.96493475 [Report] >>96493623
>>96493108
went up for pre-order two weeks ago but I don't think any of the YouTubers bothered showing stuff inside, outside of the JAde fleet AoI
Anonymous No.96493488 [Report] >>96493514 >>96493997
>>96490946
>>96493219
Lol I've definitely thought about doing a venereal disease warband before. Diseased prostitutes and stuff starting with models like pic related. Sculpting it from scratch is next level.
Anonymous No.96493514 [Report] >>96493997
>>96493488
This and scroda are probably the only models im scratch sculpting. I have some random metals Im converting by sculpting on nurgle stuff (plaguebearer faces, bloated armor, intestines buboes etc) and a small horde of 5th edition plastics. I love the old hunched over chaos guys. I got a small lot of them from a friend with missing bits so ill just sculpt stuff as i go.
Anonymous No.96493535 [Report] >>96493544 >>96493935
>>96492058
Who is it?
Anonymous No.96493544 [Report]
>>96493535
John Penis
Anonymous No.96493598 [Report] >>96493608 >>96493624
The fuck. Where are the digital versions of the more recent AJs?
Anonymous No.96493608 [Report] >>96493837
>>96493598
probably trying to push as many physical copies down by not providing easily pirated digital ones.
Anonymous No.96493623 [Report]
>>96493475
I guess they haven't been delivered yet? Because surely you'd have expected some regular joe to upload something
Anonymous No.96493624 [Report] >>96493837
>>96493598
So the ones in the OP aren't the actual pdfs?
Anonymous No.96493733 [Report]
>>96492138
There's a ton of stray animals in cities. I wouldn't wager they're any more disease ridden than the stuff that dwells outside the cities.
Anonymous No.96493837 [Report]
>>96493608
Maybe, but it still sucks to thise that have bought other digital books.
>>96493624
They're a collection of screenshots from the physical copies. Digital (e-book) versions would be much better, since you could pick apart the high-quality images.
Anonymous No.96493913 [Report] >>96494106
We iz gobbos
Anonymous No.96493935 [Report] >>96493970 >>96494038
>>96493535
Oderus urungus from gwar
Anonymous No.96493970 [Report]
>>96493935
Thanks man
Anonymous No.96493997 [Report] >>96494036
>>96493488
>>96493514
Shit. I didn't actually attach the pic.
I was thinking these battle whores.
Anonymous No.96494036 [Report] >>96494081
>>96493997
Slave dudes would be more in character hilariously enough. Or poxxed up villagers. I can also proxy nurgle anything i have a plaguebearer I painted ages ago that seems pretty aids-y
Anonymous No.96494038 [Report]
>>96493935
F.
Anonymous No.96494081 [Report]
>>96494036
>Slave dudes would be more in character hilariously enough.
I confess to not knowing anything about Gwar.
The same line has some beefcake slaves. Though still probably not the aesthetic you're going for.
Anonymous No.96494106 [Report]
>>96493913
You mean
>we wuz gobbos
Anonymous No.96494156 [Report] >>96494207 >>96494360 >>96494516 >>96495477
Shiit, is this canon?
Did Alith Anar *actually* had sex with Morathi?!
Anonymous No.96494207 [Report]
>>96494156
not that I know of, alith anar is also extremely racist towards the dark elves so I doubt he would feel enough lust to fuck one with anything other than a knife

it's probably just a joke on the line of
>hurr durr I did your mom
Anonymous No.96494360 [Report]
>>96494156
Fuck me, can't remember where this piece of lore comes from. But supposedly, Alith once infiltrated the dark elf court to steal some important artifact, and he danced with Morathi and somehow managed to maintain his cover. The memes basically write themselves.
Anonymous No.96494516 [Report]
>>96494156
Alith Anar is basically the most gangster elf in Warhammer, and there's a lot of tough competition.
Anonymous No.96494791 [Report]
Everyone excited for Cathay third arcane journal???
Anonymous No.96494971 [Report] >>96495020 >>96495173 >>96497720
>>96485407 (OP)
Hear me out lads;

Gobbo's, but in Macedonian kit. Alexander the great style, gobbo' sarrisa's n' all.

Alekzanda' the Green.
Anonymous No.96495020 [Report] >>96495037
>>96494971
Alekzanda da Git sounds better.
Anonymous No.96495037 [Report]
>>96495020
Noice
Anonymous No.96495173 [Report]
>>96494971
Sounds cool. Be a big project to convert though with big blocks of puke.
Maybe you can find some 1/72 Greeks and do head swaps.
Anonymous No.96495177 [Report] >>96496023
>>96492762
>the main rulebook warbands
Are boring and underpowered as shit and everything gets BTFO by Skaven.
Anonymous No.96495414 [Report] >>96495435 >>96495515 >>96496017
>>96492802
Fixed by having a GM.
All campaigns and most battles would benefit from one desu.
Anonymous No.96495435 [Report] >>96495442 >>96496089
>>96495414
Isn't it just a bad rpg then?
Anonymous No.96495442 [Report]
>>96495435
maybe, but a fun one
Anonymous No.96495477 [Report] >>96496694 >>96497697
>>96494156
There needs to a list of (known) people that slept with Morathi.
Anonymous No.96495515 [Report] >>96496089
>>96495414
Yeah but then you have some poor bastard who never actually gets to play the game.
Anonymous No.96496017 [Report] >>96496089
>>96495414
>You won the previous game... but your leader stubs his toe after, so actually you get nothing. Also all the penalties applied to the loser of the last game got undone because he, uh, got lucky and found some warpstone tokens and 100 gc on the way back to his base.
Just play a different game or don't play campaigns if you want to play mirror matches endlessly
Anonymous No.96496023 [Report]
>>96495177
>boring
Your opinion man, you can do some fun stuff with those warbands
>skaven
Just play undead bro
Anonymous No.96496030 [Report]
I need size comparisons between Perry knights and empire knights
Anonymous No.96496089 [Report]
>>96496017
If this is the only way you can think to balance stuff, don't be a GM.
>>96495515
Some people like GMing. You can also play NPC mooks when there are an odd number of players.
>>96495435
A GM doesn't make it more or less of an RPG.
Anonymous No.96496694 [Report] >>96497151
>>96495477
These are some of them.
Anonymous No.96496788 [Report] >>96496848
Archaon books any good?
Anonymous No.96496848 [Report] >>96496857
>>96496788
The Age of Sigmar ones are amazing, the fantasy ones are garbage.
Anonymous No.96496857 [Report]
>>96496848
The rob sanders "duology" is the garbo one?
Anonymous No.96497151 [Report]
>>96496694
I still don't understand if Tyrion and Morathi really had a relationship or if it's just a community meme.
Anonymous No.96497588 [Report] >>96497663 >>96497938 >>96497985
was thinking about getting into empire but the knights are fuck ugly.
Anonymous No.96497663 [Report]
>>96497588
the normal heads are good, panther looks shitty tho
Anonymous No.96497697 [Report]
>>96495477
>Unnamed Slaaneshi Chaos Warrior #1, 2, 3, 4... 1000
>Aenarion
>Malekith
>her horsey
>every major Slaaneshi character
>just about every major Dark Elf character
Wonder what is the craziest thing she's fucked. Is she psycho enough to let a kharibdyss or black dragon mount her?
Anonymous No.96497720 [Report]
>>96494971
only if we can get topless macedonian goblin girls
Anonymous No.96497938 [Report] >>96497941
>>96497588
you could just proxy historical knight minis instead
Anonymous No.96497941 [Report] >>96497959
>>96497938
Im starting to think knights are just fuck ugly
Anonymous No.96497959 [Report]
>>96497941
>ACK
Poor little Tomb boy
Anonymous No.96497985 [Report] >>96497997
>>96497588
They're good for what they need to do.
Anonymous No.96497997 [Report] >>96498004
>>96497985
One thick coat
Anonymous No.96498004 [Report]
>>96497997
Yes, I painted them lot ago when I didn't know much better. The blue was also Necron abyss, so pretty thick by itself.
Anonymous No.96498021 [Report] >>96498033 >>96498097 >>96498367
Why isnt there more body positive representation for the empire?
Anonymous No.96498033 [Report]
>>96498021
Only captains or mercs would have custom armor that could fit a fat/muscle bastard
Anonymous No.96498097 [Report] >>96498126
>>96498021
gotta go to age of sigmar or 40k for that. old worlds not allowed to have any variance in the models whatsoever, they must all be perfectly ranking little tin soldiers or they literally will not fit in the movement trays
Anonymous No.96498126 [Report] >>96498395 >>96498641 >>96498641
>>96498097
>variance in the models
That's certainly one way to put it
Anonymous No.96498367 [Report] >>96498443
>>96498021
>body positive
how is being fat positive?
Anonymous No.96498395 [Report]
>>96498126
>Captain Drank von Niggastein, of the 12th Norldand Regiment 'The Blackfaces', devout to Ulric, duel wielding pistols.
Anonymous No.96498443 [Report] >>96498492
>>96498367
They're strong as fuck
Anonymous No.96498492 [Report] >>96498504
>>96498443
Kek, every lardass thinks he's strong. Unless you're a Hercules mode competitive powerlifter, you're a flabby pussy bitch just like the model you posted is.
Anonymous No.96498504 [Report] >>96498613
>>96498492
soo, are you still afraid of showing your minis to friends and family?
Anonymous No.96498613 [Report] >>96498944
>>96498504
Nah, I showed my Paladin and Bertrand the Brigand WIPs to my gf (female) and she thinks they're cool. I told her about Warhamz and she expressed interest in maybe starting a kitbashed mutant-heavy Khorne WoC roidmonster army, which I find hilarious because she's a tiny sweet little woman. Do you do Warhamz with your gf?
Anonymous No.96498641 [Report]
>>96498126
>>96498126
Anonymous No.96498944 [Report]
>>96498613
>gf
the wat now?