Thread 96489831

>No infinite manpower like the Imperium, Tyranids, or Orks
>No psychic powers like the Eldar or Imperium
>No advanced technology like the Imperium, Necrons, or Eldar
>No immortal warrior demigods like the Imperium, Eldar, or Necrons
>Just pluckiness and a determination to fight until the end no matter the odds

They do have a god now though, psykers soon to come.

>>96489831 (OP)
I love the tau. They're the Dominion from Star Trek, but 40k is such a dystopian setting they're the best guys around.

>>No infinite manpower like the Imperium, Tyranids, or Orks
Not wrong
>>No psychic powers like the Eldar or Imperium
Yet. They got Auxilliaries with that, though.
>>No advanced technology like the Imperium, Necrons, or Eldar
Compared to the Imperium, I'd argur they got better tech which is why they can keep up with the Space Marine pilots.
>>No immortal warrior demigods like the Imperium, Eldar, or Necrons
They do got a Goddess, though, and she basically wiped out a DG Warband
>>Just pluckiness and a determination to fight until the end no matter the odds
Until their Ethereal decides otherwise or dies.

>>96489865
>They got Auxilliaries with that, though.
None that will ever see use in the books or tabletop though.

>Compared to the Imperium, I'd argur they got better tech which is why they can keep up with the Space Marine pilots.
Eh, they're pretty primitive, they thought that the Titans of the Imperium were a myth after all.

>>96489875
>None that will ever see use in the books or tabletop though
Not in tabletop, but once in a book(forgot which one. It was the same with the DG warband).

>but once in a book
Imagine actually reading the trash that is 40k 'literature'.

>>96490039
I read HH, checkmate.

>>96490048
>I read HH

Damn I'm sorry, looks like you still haven't recovered from that experience.

>>96490054
Do you know how little that narrows it down bro?

>>96490048
Why do you do this for yourself? If you love suffering so much, why not just engage in actual BDSM or move to a poor place full of black people?

>>96489831 (OP)
1. They do have auxilieres if GW would stop being a bitch and make models for them.
2. Shadowsun becoming the mortal champion of the Tau'Va incoming.
3. They have a lot of refined and consistant tech that they can make and rebuild on the fly.
4. Farsight and Shadowsun even though the reasons they live a long time isn't built into them.
5. They are speed running to growing up to be Imperium 2.0. The High Lords just don't pretend to hide their callousness.

>>96490068
>why do you do this to yourself?
It amuses me.

>>96490080
>They do have auxilieres
The combined manpower of all the Tau and auxiliaries would not be .01% of the manpower of the Imperium.

>They have a lot of refined and consistant tech that they can make and rebuild on the fly.
But still nothing compared to what the other factions have.

>Farsight and Shadowsun even though the reasons they live a long time isn't built into them.
Put Farsight or Shadowsun up against a Primarch and they will get bitchslapped

>>96489831 (OP)
You forgot
>infinite plot armor

>>96490266
Eh, everyone has that.

>>96490266
>>96490269
I mean in fairness the Tau have it like to an insane degree. It's almost comical how many times they've avoided total annihilation based on nothing but sheer luck.

>>96489836
Why is one arm white?

>>96490373
Part human. The Tau goddess has a bunch of arms of the different Tau client races.

>>96490080
>Tau'Va
Is litteraly a plothole though

>>96490370
Thankfully, things like this never happen in the real world. It's not like Luxembourg only exist because of insane coincidences.

>>96489831 (OP)
No, that would have to be one of the races the T'au enslave.

>>96490402
Don't you speak that cursed name in these halls.

>>96489831 (OP)
they are literally
>40k faction for people who don't like 40k
and thats why their die hard fans suck so much shit

When they added the Tau they sullied the tone of 40k so much. Most younger 40k fans don't even realise.

>>96490428
"Good" places have always existed in 40k. Civilized world ring any bells?

>>96490439
this reply is a classic tau schizo reply style, a completely irrelevant meaningless off topic whataboutism

>le tau are le good guys
they are an alien totalitarian regime enslaving other races into their empire

>>96490457
You can be totalitarian and still be the underdogs.

>>96490457
Alright what part of totalitarian bad guys doesn't fit into 40k

>>96490461
no, and im not going to feed your trolling. the point of my post was the tone of 40k which was a heavy metal sword and sorcery space opera setting
Tau turned it into star wars. 40k was not star wars

>>96490470
Star Wars is also sword and sorcery though.

>>96490464
>>96490439
The point is most Tautists refuse to acknowledge the Tau are bad and believe they are good guys.
This is the wedge that destroyed 40k

>>96490476
I think you're confusing memes with reality. Screaming "For the Greater Good!" doesn't mean you believe in the Greater Good IRL any more than a Helldiver screaming "For Democracy" means he thinks Super Earth is actually democratic IRL.

>>96490475
sword and sorcery in the sense of Moorcock. Not Star Wars you fucking retard which is eastern and western inspired

>>96490476
Imperium fans also believe the Imperium is the good guy, Chaos fans also believe this about themselves. I think everyone but Tyranid players things their faction is in the right.

>>96490478
Stfu, its not memes that Tau attracts a certain type of insufferable socialist that thumbs their nose up at 40k

>>96490482
>whataboutism
we are talking about the Imperium, Faggot

>>96490488
Well for starters, the Tau are actually textbook fascists. That's the whole appeal.

>>96490496
aren't

>>96490503
textbook communists. Sure they are fascists if you believe communism is a fascist ideology too and you should.

tau were a leg up for irony poisoned leftwingers to feel comfortable in the 40k fandom while chipping away at it

>>96490509
Communism at least pretends to be about class warfare, something which fascism lacks entirely.

>>96490496
>T'au fans think they are the good guys, and this new element ruined the setting forever
>This isn't new, and this is a fundamental aspect of human nature actually
>No one rule for me, and one rule for thee

>>96490515
thats the Tau, leftists trying to deny the Tau are commies is the dumbest fucking meme.

>>96490547
Except the Tau never once, in any book or other source, mention class.

>>96490551
because they dur eliminated class dur you fart huffing moron.
They had a communist revolution, Their ideology is called the Tau'va

also thats a lie despite the Tau being a classless society the books mention class stratification in the form of social ranking

>>96490559
>They eliminated class
Then they wouldn't be commies. Commies don't eliminate class, they just enforce it for their own authoritarian ends.

>>96490571
Just stfu pea brain. They are a classless communist society

no more moving the goal posts around every reply you faggot commie liar

this is what i hate about tau and tau fanboys, they just use it as an opening to prattle on about politics inanely.
Space commies could be fun and an interesting juxtaposition in 40k. Instead they just want to herp derp over irl politics and take everything too seriously.
40k was a lot less serious, when it was ironically heavy metal and taken completely straight

>>96490576
>Thinking that communism actually worked by eliminating class
So...you're a commie? Because nobody but a commie would think communism was actually successful in eliminating class.

>>96490589
Except the first person to bring up politics was not the Tau fan.

>>96490589
>40k was a lot less serious, when it was ironically heavy metal and taken completely straight
Higher T levels.

>>96490595
>>96490482
Lying as usual

>>96490614
its definitely something like that, tau just invited more low test leftists in,
I know these people irl, i just met one recently and hes a tau fag and he still whines about the rest of 40k being too right wing. And naturally he jumped to Trench Crusade

>>96490635
weird 4chan linked the wrong post
i meant
>>96490595
>>96490478

>>96490635
See >>96490488
We can blatantly see how you're lying.

What's with the taufag posting?

>>96489831 (OP)
>Just pluckiness and a determination to fight until the end no matter the odds
more like not being a big enough problem for anyone to deal with

>>96490781
Which is what pluckiness is.

>>96490690
these threads are usually made by redditor taufags to bait

>>96490690
>>96490846
It is the same guy who has been doing it for years, he seems to disappear for months, then spams non-stop bait threads for weeks until he gets bored or the jannies start putting his threads on autosage

He used to sometimes have serious discussions about tau lore (mostly his headcanons about how powerful the tau are), but now he seems to assume everyone on /tg/ is against him and instead he constantly tries to provoke arguments

I haven't figured out yet if this is his weird idea of revenge against /tg/, if he actually still thinks he is genuinely persuading people with his arguments, or if he has been doing this so long it is the only thing he feels he is good at

>>96491208
yeah hes a well know autist, tautist if you will, they are a dime a dozen from reddit though, r/tau r/40klore

Hes one of those autistics that isnt able to read in-between the lines of 40k (and this is how the writers admit they like writing) So is unironically brainwashed by Tau in-universe propaganda and believes hes fighting a propaganda war on here

>>96490503
>Well for starters, the Tau are actually textbook fascists. That's the whole appeal.
What bullshit. Who appeal of Tau is muh progress, shiny guns out of their ass and enforced retardation to make blue cunts seem like the only reasonable face.

Tau are le good guys is the fact of life for majority of their fanbase, who're trying to fool?

>>96490482
>Imperium fans also believe the Imperium is the good guy
That's canon. By the reduction of badness.
>Chaos fans also believe this about themselves
Lol no, Chaos is evil and unapologetic.
Although, granted, nuChaos has been increasingly trying to whitewash itself to become le shade of g(r)ay.

>>96491490
>Who appeal of Tau is muh progress
Except the Tau are making less progress than the Imperium and still remain the most technologically primitive faction in the setting other than maybe the Orks.

The enforced retardation IS an appeal to the Tau, but on the opposite end. It's the Tau's retardation that's funny and makes them appealing. They're the idiots so blinded by indoctrination that they actually thought they could befriend the Dark Eldar. It's the same appeal behind the Helldivers. They're indoctrinated morons, yes, but that's amusing.

>>96491508
>Except the Tau are making less progress than the Imperium and still remain the most technologically primitive faction in the setting other than maybe the Orks.
You're playing obtuse, or completely ignore their entire lore then.

>It's the Tau's retardation that's funny and makes them appealing.
That's naivette, and that is genuinely funny, but not what I was talking about. Although that retardation was established in the earliest canon, but Tau didn't exist then.
>They're the idiots so blinded by indoctrination that they actually thought they could befriend the Dark Eldar.
No, because they know nothing about that.

>>96491523
>You're playing obtuse, or completely ignore their entire lore then.
My guy, they're so primitive they thought the Imperium's Titans were propaganda and that no machine could ever be that big.

>No, because they know nothing about that.
Screaming "FOR THE GREATER GOOD" and trying to befriend the clearly evil Dark Eldar with nipple piercings and black spikes all over and torture devices on every wall is such a retarded idea that no amount of reasoning could ever excuse it, that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.

>>96491543
>My guy, they're so primitive they thought the Imperium's Titans were propaganda and that no machine could ever be that big.
Yeah, and then they invented Gundums. Thought it was later edition.
More importantly, they somehow managed to evolve from literal stone age savages into space age with plasmaguns and mass expansion, all within a span of 2000 years, and keep expanding.
>Screaming "FOR THE GREATER GOOD" and trying to befriend the clearly evil Dark Eldar with nipple piercings and black spikes all over and torture devices on every wall is such a retarded idea that no amount of reasoning could ever excuse it, that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.
Eh, well, many people also believe they can befriend the Dark Eldar, and some in fact do.
Considering Tau allied races consist of aviamorph cannibals, or freakish space bugmen, I think it was an honest mistake on their part.

>>96491557
>Yeah, and then they invented Gundums
Which are still way weaker and more primitive than a Titan.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4a7sJPXlY3M

>More importantly, they somehow managed to evolve from literal stone age savages into space age with plasmaguns and mass expansion, all within a span of 2000 years, and keep expanding.
Eh, they had a lot of help from the Eldar and Imperium with that.

>Considering Tau allied races consist of aviamorph cannibals, or freakish space bugmen, I think it was an honest mistake on their part.
And that's gonna bite them in the ass having so many auxiliaries. The Imperium's rejection of alien auxillaries is learned experience, it's wisdom.

>>96490373
Because the Tau do not have a strong warp presence of there own and have no ability to gain warp powers for themselves they can not have real gods in setting. Hell the Tau are so weak spiritually speaking that to them as a species being deeply religious would be seen as being bugfuck insane and outright self harming on a deeply sociological level.

It is more proper to say that Tau'Va is more like the goddess of the auxiliary races of the Tau empire. Seeing as they are the ones with the actual psychic potential. And most humans in the Tau empire are so stupid they can not tell a philosophy meant to tell you how you live your life from a god that is to be worshiped and obeyed in all things. The stupid primitives.

That is why Tau'Va has so many arms and why they are all different from each other. It is not the Tau themselves that have made the goddess of the greater good in the warp. It was the fault of the humans and other aliens that could not live without a god that are responsible for this mess.

>>96489836
>>96491617
Are we sure that's not just Tzeentch with boobs?

>>96490457
Enslaving is a strong word. Incorporating other races into their empire at gun point may be a more appropriate statement. They are after all made full citizens of the Tau empire with all of the rights and privileges that come with being a citizen. So it is not all bad all things being considered.

I like tau because I like stupid things and dumb blue autocratic collectivists in !samurai armor with !gudams and the pulse rifles from doom are pretty fucking stupid. just like how I prefer 1ed orks tyranids and space marines because they were all fuckin goofy. but 3rd ed stuff was cool too because it was still pretty stupid. 4th ed and on is where they start going mass market appeal and now things are very srs, which is stupid in the unfun way.

>>96491689
I mean now that you say it out loud.

>>96490048
How much time and money did you waste on what is basically an advert designed to encourage you into buying more plastic toys? Think of the self improvement or things you could have experienced with the same amount of time, money and effort.

>>96491750
If the Tau were in the 1ed of the setting how do you think they would have been implemented? Do you think they would have been far stranger looking and outright weird so as to be a real alien faction that is so strange that they even fight in weird and wild ways that no one else even could so as to set them apart from the other fantasy races in space factions that make up 40k? Or do you think they should have just been blue skinned alien space babes from Venus out to steal all of our men for there sexy breeding rituals So as to make even sexier and hotter blue skinned alien space babes so that they could rule the galaxy with how unbearably sexy they all are?

>>96491543
>that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.
The lore isnt consistant dude, it's just written to sell little toys. Try not to take it to seriously. Remember when the Blood Angels teamed up with the Necrons? Just take from it what you want and ignore the bits you don't like, all the lore is just an advert designed to make you buy more. IT ISNT A FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. If GW makes up and cherry picks lore from moment to moment, so can we.

>>96491807
honestly either are probable but since they were mostly an excuse for GW to expand their sphere of ripped off ideas and start adding anime shit, looking at it from that perspective and what was floating around to be consumed in the late 80s idk.

>>96491711
not really a strong word, the codexes even poke fun of the Tau's love of Orwellian language. Like exterminate an alien species is called a compliance sweep. Forcibly putting aliens en masse into hard labour, would be something like harmonious worker initiatives.

>>96490370
Plenty of tiny, inconsequential and irrelevant kingdoms survived in real life, and land is at a premium on earth compared to the immense vastness of a galaxy

>>96491807
they obviously fit the dogs of war faction but gw flubbed it.

>>96491791
>thinking I wasted money on books
Did you really believe I would do that when pdfs and epubs exist?

>>96490054
Imagine having succumb to making purchases of small plastic toys WITHOUT having been subjected to hundreds of hours of brainwashing beforehand.

>>96491862
>>96490126
>The combined manpower of all the Tau and auxiliaries would not be .01% of the manpower of the Imperium.
Then why the Imperium is afraid to invade T'au space?
>But still nothing compared to what the other factions have.
As per the lore, the T'au have superior technology to the Imperium especially in sensor and stealth departments.
>Put Farsight or Shadowsun up against a Primarch and they will get bitchslapped
Primarchs have lost against Marines. It's established that Shadowsun and Farsight are far above Marines in warmaking, and in the case of Farsight, in physical combat.

>>96491862
That's cope.
We have sources from the codexes and campaign books
Novels and short stories that show the lives of allied races on the ground. Alsop reports on the Imperials about the state of the T'au allied races.
All of them state generally the same thing. They aren't slaves but (second class) citizens

>>96490370
Many times?
Name three times then.

>>96491543
>My guy, they're so primitive they thought the Imperium's Titans were propaganda and that no machine could ever be that big.
Not true.
The average Tau on the ground believed them as propaganda. The Blades of Damocles novels shows that the Tau were working on anti-titans weapons before they even met the Imperium.

>Screaming "FOR THE GREATER GOOD" and trying to befriend the clearly evil Dark Eldar with nipple piercings and black spikes all over and torture devices on every wall is such a retarded idea that no amount of reasoning could ever excuse it, that's pure indoctrination on a level the Imperium could only dream of.
The same Drukhari group pulled the same scam on the Imperials. Unlike the T'au, the Imperials couldn't figure out they were being scammed.
>>96491599
Wrong.
The Stormsurges are stated to obliterate Imperial titans.
In the first Mike Brooks Ork novel, trio of broadside suits crippled a warlord titan.
>Eh, they had a lot of help from the Eldar and Imperium with that.
No, that's not true.
>And that's gonna bite them in the ass having so many auxiliaries. The Imperium's rejection of alien auxillaries is learned experience, it's wisdom.
Actually, Dan Abnett debunked that in a podcast. It's based on a lie by the Emperor which is why the Imperium is the only human civilization that developed dogmatic xenophobia

>>96490592
Once again the projection is strong for commies.

>>96489831 (OP)
https://youtu.be/cK3oNcEC0nU?si=26LvckAm8PSW_NsL
is this you

>>96489831 (OP)
Lorewise they are so small and insignificant that they don't even enter the discussion of the balance of power in the galaxy or the future of it. Being stuck in the "if any of the major factions just put some energy into killing them, they would be fucked" forever keeps them as a minor irrelevant faction for mecha enthusiasts not worth discussing other than "Is their ideology sound or not" for the billionth time.

>>96489836
I'm sure their psykers will be extra pluralocrats or whatever and their powers only work if a squad of their psykers get in a special formation.

>>96490482
>everyone but Tyranid players things their faction is in the right.
And only the ork players are correct.

>>96494019
>Drukhari group
They're called DARK ELDAR, Or, if you go by 5th edition codex, Eladrith Ynneas.
"DRUKHARI" is corporate newspeak and everyone who uses it is a jeet shill.

>>96489831 (OP)
Advanced technology is literally the only thing they actually have. They aren't plucky at all, they're weakling cowards.

>>96498512
No faction in the setting can wipe out the T'au. For example, the forces sent against the T'au in the Second Damocles Crusade are comparable to the forces defending the Cadian Gate. And the T'au expansion forces, not evern the forces of their entire empire, defeated them.

It's been discussed a lot, so I have no idea how you missed it. A single Crisis suit would wreck the average marine. The T'au have millions of suits of all types. Imagine millions of marine equivalents concentrated in a single place.
>>96498530
Drukari sounds cooler.

>>96499522
They can't be wiped out because everyone else is busy fighting each other.
Just like how no one can wipe the Eldar.

>>96499593
>They can't be wiped out because Phil Kelly has rewritten them to be able to perfectly anticipate for everything and be unable to legit lose

>>96499593
They can't be wiped out because they are very powerful. AS I said, it's like trying to invade strongholds filled with hundreds of thousands of space marines. According to the lore, T'au major worlds, aka sept worlds, are so heavily defended that the Imperials consider invading them a daunting task.

Funny that you mentioned the Aeldari, since we got recent statements that say even the most aggressive Imperial commander would think twice before going after a craftworld, since they are very deadly, and they would know you were coming.
Also, the Necrons don't take trespassing on the Aeldari domain lightly.

>>96499646
I mean, it's a plot point in the Damocles Crusade that the Farsight discovered the Marines repeat the same tactics and strategies over and over, inflexibly and without variation. This made the Marines easy to predict and sealed their defeat.

>>96499678
it's a plot point that the effect of the Damocles Crusade got him sent to Moloch

>>96499688
The effect was that the Water Caste lionized Farsight and caused him to become a destabilizing element in the T'au Empire. The T'au populations were calling out for war rather than adhering to the truce with the Imperials.

Aun'Va sent him away from the T'au Empire on an expedition to reclaim the ground lost to the Imperials. For 40+ years, Farsight campaigned and restored the territories the Imperials took. With his mission near completion, the Ethereals decided to recall him back to the empire. Farsight refused and decided to fight the Orks massing on the borders, starting the War of Dakka, which initially became disastrous for him. The T'au Empire couldn't sent reinforcements because, unknown to Farsight at the time, they were being invaded by Gorgon. After regaining his resolve, Farsight beat back the Orks and chased them to Arthas Moloch

>>96498560
Except their technology is weaker than the Imperium’s

>>96500475
The Imperium has better tech but their best equipment is hoarded and irrelaceable and modifying it is heresy.

Meanwhile, the Tau's frontline grunts are better equipped, they're always doing RnD, and losing a battlesuit isn't like losing a Titan or even a Terminator suit.

>>96490478
It would be great if they got this aesthetic.

>>96500764
The Imperium has more Titans than the Tau have infantry, they're not gonna run out anytime soon.

>>96499668
>Aeldari
>Aeldari
Everyone who uses homosexual coprorat newspeake is an Indian.

>>96503796
>The Imperium has more Titans than the Tau have infantry
Titan Legions are composed of 3-6 Titans, and Mars only has a few hundred of them left after the Horus Heresy.

>>96494019
>Actually, Dan Abnett debunked that in a podcast.
absolute horseshit you pulled out of your ass. That'd retcon the entire setting. Fuck off and stay fucked off
>human civilization that developed dogmatic xenophobia
the eldar are the most xenophobic, so are the orks, even the votann have dogmatic xenophobia and they are humans and tau have shown it too

>>96489836
>>96491689
>Are we sure that's not just Tzeentch with boobs?
No, for Tau'va yearns to GROW!

>>96505804
>turns out Tau'va is Tzeentch's wife.

>>96489831 (OP)
They counter this with the truly bullshit cheating strategy of... cover. Fire and movement, or worst of all...
>You get a plasma rifle! You get a plasma rifle! Everyone gets a plasma rifle!
They also use stealth. And they don't line up in rank and file waiting to be shot out in the open. They also don't bring a fucking sword to an artillery duel or a tank fight. What cheek! Such gall!

>>96490478
Tau faction explicitly attracts the che Guevara shirt wearing blacks browns and homos. You know, all the people che killed. Because commies are THAT DUMB.

>>96505871
>But they both have stonking tits!

>>96505933
Except the Tau are explicitly a Caste society...
Seriously, the Imperium is more Commie than them.

>>96505933
>Guevara
>Gue'vesa
holy shit

>>96503830
he is probably thinking of Titans + knights

>>96505954
To faggots anyone who likes big tits must be a commie. Dont ask me why, doesn’t make sense to me either.

Has the Tau Navy literally ever won a battle?

>>96507240
>To faggots anyone who likes big tits must be a commie.
I mean this is why I headcanon the Tau'va as an excuse for everyone becoming titty monsters, "Nanny State" and all that.

>>96490457
>Nooooo! Nobody is allowed to be good in my heckin fascist fantasy world!
>Everyone must be evilirino!

People like you are the ones who dont "get" it. The Tau are "good" specifically to be juxtaposed to everything else in the setting. They are the insignificant underdogs because they are good. They can't compete against the other big players head on to demonstrate that their lofty idealism doesn't hold up against the more brutal bigger factions.

Why does everyone call the Tau the commies when the Genestealer Cults exist?

>>96507908

They fill the niche of collectivistic Asian empire. That's why. From the strict definition, they aren't commies because there is no class struggle. But since collectivism and progress is a big part of being commie it is good enough of a label for the general vibes.

It is the same as people labelling the Imperium fascist or catholic space Nazis even when there's nothing strictly catholic about the Imperium, or they pursue any sort of Aryanism, and they are more like a genocidal feudal kingdom.

>>96508172
The irony is that the Tau really are a textbook fascist empire, it’s just that nobody has actually read the Doctrine of Fascism

>>96489836
not psykers but more like faith based miracles like the sisters of battle.

>>96493975
Damocles Gulf Crusade - The smallest crusade ever
Hive Fleet Gorgon - or Splinter Fleet nothing like the Imperuim faced.
Dark Eldars ignoring them occasionally for human preys.

>>96494019
>Unlike the T'au, the Imperials couldn't figure out they were being scammed
Tau literally did an exchange program where they sent ethereals and other tau cast to "Experience their culture."
Garbage opinion.

Tau are space indians. Even their armor is curry colored.

>>96507908
because the Tau are actual space communists.

Semantics fags try to argue they are not literally communists because they don't have a marxist tradition that can be traced back to karl marx on earth, so they aren't truly communist.
But this is absurd because they are an alien species that evolved on the other side of the galaxy. So they invented their own analogy to communism, the Tau'va. Despite what people have claimed they are entirely materialistic they don't believe in the spiritual, think everything can be explained by science and have a classless collectivist society. Even the the greater good is a communist slogan.

>>96508172
no, you are retarded.
Objectively

Everything you just posted is retarded.

>>96511718
>a classless collectivist society
How are they "Classless" when they have A CASTE SYSTEM?!

T'au are neither Communists nor Weebs.

They are just a soup of East/South-East/South Asian empires in contrast to the Imperium's soup of primarily European/Middle-Eastern/North African empires.

>>96489831 (OP)
>underdogs
>get an entire deity spawned out of just believing something

Not only do they steal concepts from the eldar, they also do from orks too. A faction so un-original, they literally steal from other factions in narrative tropes. What a fucking squat worthy group.

>>96511718
Your entire retarded argument relies on saying that fascism is a type of communism

>>96508957
So did the humans.
>>96508927
Lorewise, a large crusade.
Hive Fleet Gorgon is more dangerous than anything the Imperium has faced.
Drukhari disproportionately attack the T'au.

>>96508957
You might want to re-read the story. The T'au refused to send the Ethereals and, through spying, detected that they were scammed and fought back against the Drukhari.
The Imperials, on the other hand, were herded like sheep, never realizing that they were scammed.

>>96505676
>absolute horseshit you pulled out of your ass. That'd retcon the entire setting. Fuck off and stay fucked off
Nope. I can link you if you ask nicely.
>the eldar are the most xenophobic, so are the orks, even the votann have dogmatic xenophobia and they are humans and tau have shown it too
Wrong. They don't dogmatically hate aliens.
Aeldari allowed aliens to thrive in their galaxy for 60 million years.
Orks don't hate.
Leagues of Votann trade and settle alongside alien races.
T'au outside the fourth sphere, with their mental damage, treat all alien life as worthy of life.

>>96512246
i said nothing about fascism

>>96511791
castes are not classes you idiot

>>96513163
Like fuck they aren't, plus each of them have ridged internal hierarchies!

The T'au Empire most closely resembles a technocratic oligarchy with a caste-based, state-socialist economy, managed by a meritocratic bureaucracy and expanded through hegemonic militarism and diplomacy. They are paternalistic, technocratic, expansionist empire.

They follow the “Greater Good” — a moral imperative that the group’s welfare matters more than the individual, which is why they get called communists. They present themselves as bringing progress and industry to “backward” worlds. Their aesthetics (clean, high-tech, cooperative-looking uniforms and bureaucracy) contrast with grimdark Imperium and make people shorthand them as the progressive/communal side.

The T’au share some surface features with fascism (authoritarian leadership, strong military, expansionism, propaganda), but they lack several core ideological and structural elements that define classical fascist movements. T’au ideology is universalist (the Greater Good is presented as for all beings) rather than rooted in a mythic nation or ethnic purity. They assimilate other peoples rather than professing racial purity. Fascism often relies on mythic national rebirth narratives; T’au propaganda centers on progress and the Greater Good, a different emotional frame.

On the other hand, the T'au promote a universalist moral language (“Greater Good”) that functions like the “rules-based order” or civilizing/normative claims used to legitimize intervention. They offer infrastructure, medicine, and “uplift” as the justification for bringing worlds into their orbit — the classic development/aid vocabulary of modern neocolonialism. Like contemporary liberal interventionists, they prefer soft-power means first and hard power when it secures strategic goals or enforces compliance.

I think the T'au is better if they represent modernity, with their technological optimism, technocracy, and cosmopolitan rhetoric. Their methods are modern unlike the medieval Imperium.

>>96512698
The Eldar only hate humans and apparently it goes way before mankind was barely walking Terra
Then again, this was written from the perspective of a Cabal and those guys are wackos

>>96513158
No but every time we've pointed out that the Tau meet the textbook definition of fascism you try to stretch things to make them communist instead.

>>96513287
We have two novels that have the PoV of Prefall Aeldari. The characters in them think about humanity a little and either envy their simple lives or pity them.
There is no hate there.

>>96512698
NTA but I'd like a link to that podcast.

>>96513287
the Eldar in the classic fluff hated ALL other sentient life for being usurpers.

Its also strongly implied the reason they hate humans is humans became near peers to them. They are still seething over it.

>>96513185
@gork is dis true?

>>96513489
youtube.com/watch?v=gCOj_u72Dtw&t=3023s

50:19

>>96489836
Coomers need to be sent to labour camps

Tau suck, Kroot rule

>>96513379
Who are we? Are you a tankie?

>>96489831 (OP)
Also you forgot to mention BORING on tabletop