Thread 96495393

Marksman edition

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▶News: New Kill Team Approved Ops 2025
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/mhstieyb/kill-team-approved-ops-2025-snatch-the-initiative-and-secure-new-objectives/

▶News: Next box is Deathwatch versus Necrons in an ItD-like tomb world terrain set
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/9lpgtcwy/the-big-summer-preview-deathwatch-kill-teams-descend-into-the-tomb-world/

▶News: Tomb World box preorder
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/g9yodfir/sunday-preview-dare-you-enter-the-tomb-world/

▶Official Key Downloads, FAQs and Errata
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/kill-team/
▶Rules Scans
https://gofile.io/d/AinK04
▶Boxed Set Rules Scans
https://gofile.io/d/NWRByw (deprecated)
▶Brief team summaries if you are wondering who to try out next
https://files.catbox.moe/rc8pib.png
▶Homebrew teams by a kind Anon:
https://mega.nz/folder/RedyyTTZ#hNv1fp2Yocqg536MozmbyA

▶Official GW KT app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamesworkshop.kt3
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kill-team-the-app/id6479447973
▶Game assistant websites (including rules)
https://kt3.albecortes.com/
https://ktdash.app/
https://wahapedia.ru/kill-team3/the-rules/core-rules/

▶TQ:
Review the new approved ops initiative system and the new tac ops (you can see what they are in youtube previews if you haven't already)

>>96495393 (OP)
>TQ
Well, I guess no one gets any extra cp now. Some times might struggle with that. Nem claw now looking amazing

>>96495393 (OP)
>TQ
cmon just post them, this thread needs content anyway

>>96495393 (OP)
Are horde teams good now?

>>96497658
No they released yet another overpowered elite team. This time 5 marines who have a tool for literally everything! So balanced! This new edition has killed the game for me.

>>96497703
I mean, has there ever been a time that a 'horde' killteam is considered powerful? I remember trying to play horde orks in 1e but you simply couldn't put enough models on the table to make them remotely viable, especially against expensive elite teams like Harlequins/Custodes

>Got two copies of Tomb World since I ordered from two different retailers to be sure I get at least one
Should I sell one for retail price or do I become what I hate and go full scalper?

>>96498034
Part of our at jewmes workshop prices and make more on it
t. Also got more than one copy accidentally

>>96497793
Vet guardsmen and Kommandos both did pretty well in the last edition. There were several 10 man teams that were good too. Are you a goldfish?

>>96497793
In KT21 elite teams were just not really able to compete. At best they managed to be pubstompers, but against experienced players they were below par.

>>96496306
I wonder if they might increase the base CP to 3 like they did when the first card pack released for KT21.

>>96497703
Literally just stand on the objective and win

>>96496365
Took the time to collate them from youtube.

>>96497703
Deathwatch is definitely overtuned, some of their operatives (aegis in particular) are just impossible for some teams to deal with.
But they're within reason for most teams, and they're the exception currently. Other marine teams are quite balanced, you just need to know how to play against elites.

>>96498279
Are crit ops 1-3 unchanged?

>>96498292
Yes

>>96498279
>you just need to know how to play against elites.
You mean having to wait for them to do something dumb like get too aggressive and then counter? Elites are fucked in this edition.

>>96499041
No, I mean using your objective-grabbing chaff and activation advantage to start the engagement on your terms and force the trades you want.

>>96496306
>Well, I guess no one gets any extra cp now.
>>96498205

Extra CP for who doesn't go first is in the core rules, not in the new missions.

>>96492636
I'm playing with a mate and I'm worried that a 10 vs 5 game might be too strong for one side or the other. I was gonna play Mandrakes and give him Raveners

>>96499160
The problem with Mandrakes is that they are a complex and fragile team that need lots of experience to be played well and not explode. So while an experienced Mandrake player Vs an experienced Ravener player is a somewhat fair matchup if you are both new the Mandrake player is probably going to get stomped.

>>96499140
Wait, that's correct
That changes a lot, this update just makes it less random
Huh

>>96499160
The raveners are obviously more powerful per unit than the mandrakes, how else would the game be balanced
Hard to say if the matchup is fair though. Mandrakes and raveners are both unconventional teams that cirumvent things most teams need to care about, so pitting two against each other will be unpredictable. Maybe mandrakes just won't have the damage output to handle the snakes, maybe the raveners will be countered by not being as effective at zoning against the teleporting edgelords. Should be interesting though.

Is it just me, or does the Chaos cult seems to be a pretty staightforward team? Mutate as much cultists as possible, send the mutants into close combat, helped by the two sword guys..?

>>96499265
It's more difficult than it looks. Once they mutate they basically can't do mission actions so you have to be careful not to lock yourself out of the objective, and you completely lack ranged threat so the enemy is allowed to position much more freely against you.

>play Kill Team
>game is actually fun
>play big 40k
>game is not fun
It's been a while since I last fucked around with Warhammer and this is still the case
What's up with that?

Right, post your models.

First guy here in a squad of Salamanders. Got the helmet off of Etsy.

My autism is compelling me to find out exactly what squad markings everybody should have from Salamanders 2nd Company, but another part of me doesn't really care and insists I just paint whatever.

>>96503100
My most recent. I was experimenting using a metallic green to use for my canoptek circle when it shows up

>>96503100
I ain't no good please don't laugh at me

>>96502759
GWs sidegames have more leeway to be games than just model advertisements like bighammer
Also alternating activations, more player skill expression, etc

>>96504141
Can't get gud if you stop trying.

Anyway, your model is okay so far. Definitely seen worse. It's very "fuzzy." Did you prime it in on a humid day?

>>96504088
Is that metallic? Kinda' blurry. Try taking a picture of it with a sheet of paper directly behind it. The camera is working to hard to focus on the center when there is so much "background noise."

>>96503100

My Angels of Death so far. Working on a grenade launcher and another scoped bolt rifle. Have an idea for the sniper's camo cloak too. Not really sure why I'd use the generic sergeants over the captain but might do them for completion's sake. Haven't really been motivated to paint(depression + going to have to put down my kitty) but going to prime my Volkus ruins and Blooded before it gets too cold to prime outside.

>>96504784
I live in the South, there are no other days

>>96504876
Try priming inside your house, but point the spray nozzle out your window. That way the primer will come out and adhere to the model inside your climate-controlled house, but the fumes will exit out the window.

>>96504836
> Marines Malevolent.
Based.

> going to have to put down my kitty
Not based.

> before it gets too cold to prime outside.
See >>96505047

>>96498034
It's marine slop that compfags will be desperate to buy up so scalp away, don't feel an ounce of guilt. Anyone who truly loves Deathwatch will already have proxies ready from already playing Deathwatch in 40k anyway.

>>96502759
40k has decades of baggage players and designers won't move on from.

>>96502759

I really think the other games should work in a bit of tactical thinking in close combat(parrying vs striking) like KT does. Especially Necromunda

>>96506224
what if I want the updated models and bits to kitbash squads of specialist dudes

I have some extra sister bodies, do you guys think they'll be useful for building extra operatives when the palatine team drops or do you think it'll include more bodies that required?

>>96509166
you can probably check how many specialists there are in the team already. you could use them for extra warriors or loadout options

>>96504141
clean the shoulder up with a smaller brush, and dont prime in humid, hot, or cold weather

>>96503100
The urge to add this one really cool shoulder pad to my deathwatch squad struck me hard today so I whipped up a guy wearing modified heavy armour with a grenade rifle to represent a breacher vet for my team to put the shoulder pad on. Really good blending practice if you're not used to it already. The chapter badge got a bit tilted when I painted it though, oops.
I also might be out of melta bomb bits, at least I couldn't find one, but I came up with a more fun solution; he has a tangle of missiles that he throws over an enemy like a net, then detonates. Seemed like a fitting style for a deathwatch vet wearing highly customized armour and an unusual main weapon. Next model I'll be sure to finally make one carrying some kitbashed xenotech, there's a lot of fun modelling stuff I haven't done yet with this kill team.
Just gotta give him a name and come up with some lore for him. I think he might be a bit straightforward and easily outwitted in battle, as a reference to the only piece of real lore the chapter has.

>>96509166
id hold on to them until you can see if purchasing the/an extra upgrade sprue is worth it

>>96502759
Because Kill Team is the objectively better game.

>>96507647
ewwwww

Will the new approved ops come in the Tomb World box?

>>96515583
no

Do any TTS workshop mods have tomb world, cards for approved ops '25 or either of the new teams ready yet?

Hello, complete tourist here and I have 2 questions about the new box:

If I don't have anything at all, will the box alone allow me to play the game or do I need more plastic and books to play?

How does the availability usually go with stuff like that? Is it a "preorder now or never get it ever", or is it the type of product you can find for cheap after a while?

>>96516987
kill team tends to be limited run fomo big boxes and then the teams are rereleased individually a few months later

>>96516987
You'll probably want the equipment upgrade pack, the universal equipment barricades and ladders are pretty necessary for the intended experience. If you go with 3D prints instead, they have to be the same shape. Anything that uses a "marker" can just be a 20mm token though.
You should also get the approved ops pack that just dropped, that has the standard mission setup and game sequence and all the tac ops. Without it you won't get the matched play experience.
Aside from that not really, you can use wahapedia or some other site for the full rules. The box comes with enough models and terrain to play the full game.

The components of the box (each team and the terrain set) will eventually come out separately and much more permanently, but the bundle price for the box is significantly cheaper if you want everything in it. Yes, they make it in very limited quantities, though it's a bit inconsistent how long it lasts. The recent releases before this one have at least felt like they lasted reasonably long.

>>96516987
lately, KT/big boxes are "preorder now or pay a scalper"
the prices on product never goes down. getting 15% off is as good as it gets, basically, and 3rd parties sell for that from day 1

>>96516987
>will the box alone allow me to play the game
no
>do I need more plastic and books to play?
plastic no books yes

>>96516987
Models and terrain yes. You can grab the rules you need from the OP and wahapedia. You will also want the barricades, but those can easily be 3d printed or purchased separately

>>96516987
Literally the box is all you really need, all the rules can be found online
Stuff like barricades can easily be scratch made

>>96517386
Here even the new teams tend to preorder or sell out instantly. The new nid team especially (but that one is super popular.

>>96519450
Bandai makes like 15 boxes per region and the 40koids/scalpers gobble them up because GW now use KT to release 40k kit refreshes

>>96519560
unspoiled box is GK vs DEldar for some reason

How many Kill Team do you own? Also, have you come up with some lore for /yourdudes/?

>>96523446
Angels of Death (painted as Salamanders)
Death Korps (Catachan minis actually, but use the DK rules)
Death Guard
Hernkyn Yaegirs
Sister of Battle (my buddy doesn't mind playing with out-of-season teams)

Have Hand of the Archon on my paint table. I have got plans to do up Wyrmblade and a Komandos team after that, and then after that, I have a long-term plan to do a Tempestus Aquilons team

but then again, I 3D print, so it's rather easy to collect Kill Teams

dead game
dead thread

anyone played with the new cards?

>>96523446
All of the chaos ones except the beastmen and various cultists. Has more to do with just having a big collection of chaos models in general than playing a lot of KT. I tend not to write lore for my guys past a basic description because it feels strange to write up a bunch of lore then have all your dudes die in one game and use them all again in the next

>>96523446
Every single one, except Blades of Khaine
I have not made up any lore since I switch them up to often to remember

>>96523446
>How many Kill Team do you own?
Phobos strike team, angels of death, legionaries, nemesis claw, deathwatch, hunter clade, kasrkin, breachers, inquisitorial agents, sanctifiers are all painted and have seen play. A few more WIPs/on hold.
>have you come up with some lore for /yourdudes/?
Yes, all of them to some extent.

Finishing up some terrain for KT. Popped in to GW to pick up some paints, they had loads of copies of the new box. Dont get scalped off ebay homos. Still wondering how im going to paint the new terrain, anyone seen anyone do something other than the default scheme?

Scheme i went with for gallowdark if anyone cares. Looking forward to painting up the cron terrain.

>>96533942
My original idea was to do half the terrain like this and the other half of the set in dark browns, yellows and full on rust everywhere, with wire mesh allover the walls. Like how in silent hill1 the area would go all hellscape. Ultimately i didbt try since i didnt think i could pull it off or it might just look shit.

>play a dozen games with Krieg, going full megamind with tactics, research strategy guides, good positioning, objective denial
>lose or draw every single one
>play 1 (one) game with marines, go complete unga bunga, zero strategy just hit da enemy
>complete victory
who balanced this game

>>96535036
me
I did
what now yteboi?

>>96535044
fix my kriegshits

>>96535036
>Play dozens of games with Nemesis Claw, going full megamind with tactics, research strategy guides, good positoning to farm obscure and pick off enemies one by one
>lose or draw every single one
>play 1 (one) game with Wyrmblade, go complete unga bunga, zero strategy, just swarm the enemy
>complete victory
who balanced this game

>>96535036
At least it's just that you need to get the right engagements against marines so it's a skill floor thing now
Last edition it was the same but reversed and much more severe, I ran compendium marines against vetguard and warpcoven 30 times in a row for 0 wins and a single draw despite making no tangible mistakes, then played a complete fuckup of a game as hunter clade against the same guy where I made tons of mistakes and got a better score than any of the previous 30 games
Can't say what exactly is the issue in your games though, vetguard are a bit underpowered but not unwinnably bad

Its always astonishing how much boxes with marines inside get scalped. But i guess i should not complain, as i just bought the dossier and the npo cards for 7€ on ebay. Others can pay 70+ for the DW team if they like.

Why did they make a weaker version of AoD instead of just expanding AoD to include the gatcha marines?

>>96540133
aren't they going to phase AoD out like next year or some shit?

>>96507647
Shieeeeet DEI Inquisitor

>>96540206
2 years and it's likely they'll add a generic marine team back in if they don't just keep AoD

>>96540133
Why don't they do a classic space marine kill team instead? Those bastards also squatted the classic Death Watch box, fucking hell I have so much primaris fatigue

>>96540206
the gacha team isn't in rotation to begin with

>>96540319
because "classic" marines are one (or two at the very most) 40k editions away from being retconned into never having existed at all

>>96540325
oh dang my bad

>>96540316
I guess there's nothing to worry about then

>>96540133
Easier to sell stuff that way
Also not sure I'd call it weaker. No chapter tactics sure, but that sergeant is a tough nut with a great gun and the guys on loan from the phobos strike team are pretty good at handling things elite teams otherwise struggle with.

>>96502759
Personally I think it's the alternative activation. Even Legions Imperialis does it's own thing with it, instead of "ok I rolled to go first so my army will now take out multiple of your units while you just have to stand there and wait until I finish moving all 100 of my models". Some aspects got better with giving you some reactions in the enemy turn, but having to wait for an opponent with a horde army to finish his movement phase instead of us taking turns moving their models just bores people.

>LGS just announced a KT tourney
Time to be a sweaty tryhard, a gift card is on the line here

>>96543919
>Lgs announces tourney
>It's the day before Canadian thanksgiving
Fuck

Don't know much about Kill Team, when you play irl does it even matter what models you use, or do people just use normal infantry from big 40k (i.e not the kill team models)? The Adepta Sororitas Novitiates kill team page leads to a 404, lul, and I hate how they look anyway.

What is GW even selling for this game, you just need a small handful of models?

>>96546134
If you want to do sisters but hate the novitiates (a common issue ever since late 2021 and even more pressing since the compendium was removed), there is a box coming in 2026 with a dedicated anti-psyker sister squad team.
Compendium used to be how you played simple team with models from bighammer, but aside from being so underpowered that half the teams struggled to even have a game it was removed with the new edition. A lot has already been said on the issue.

>>96546183
People do get upset at proxying even with other official GW products?

>>96549738
No, as long as
>the base size is correct
>the profile isn't too much smaller for visibility shenanigans
>it's obvious what the model represents

>>96502759
Tourniggers and other such trash of their WAACfaggotry mindset that the rules writers appeal to are not so omnipresent outside of 40k.

>>96549738
>People

Some spergs for sure. But you should not play with such "people" anyway.

New to Killteam, bought some Kasrkins. Pretty excited to get them painted and playing!

>>96504170
>He says as bighammer has become worse and worse by removing mechanics

I'm fucking awful at painting, holy shit.

>>96553146
>LGS group chat defends WAACfags with people going "What's even the point if you don't want to win"
How do I say "It's not about wanting to win, it's about being a retarded rules-lawyer to the point of annoying everyone around you" in a nice way

>>96554473
"I want to win a good, fair game where everyone understands that there is a shared set of rules that we choose to adhere to. Rules lawyering is completely antithetical to that because it places the more confrontational, aggressive, and antisocial party in a position of power. I do want to win, but rules lawyering isn't winning, at least not to me."
I hope there's more than one LGS near you

A headsup, apparently the creator of kt3.albecortes has been threatened with legal action to shut down the site
He's thinking of going open source
>GW and killing fan support, name a more iconic duo

>>96555312
Someone sperged out last time I mentioned that site in this general

>>96553182
Have fun anon! How are you loading them out?

>>96544421
>canadian Thanksgiving
“Thank you daddy Trudeau for blessing us with this yearly crop of jeets, please continue to fill our land with streetshitters”

>>96555438
wasnt it in the OP at one point?

>>96555312
oy vey, shut it down

>>96555312
By what fucking right, the rules are available as pdfs on warhammer.com

>>96555312
>Take down the only site/app that actually makes the convoluted mess of team rules and updates understandable
>Team rules that are free to download anyway
Why

>>96555438
>>96555938
It's CURRENTLY in the OP. Has been for a long time.

>>96556238
>>96556340
Might be that it has the full approved ops rules, which are not downloadable.

>>96556377
GW is fucking retarded if they think they'll achieve anything besides alienating people away from playing this system by this. Free rules sell minis, when the fuck will they learn

I've made so much money reselling Deathwatch kill teams holy shit marine pay piggies are ravenous

>>96555312
>>96556340
>not using wahapedia
skill issue

>>96556340
The core rules are not free

>>96556477
Go scalp pokemon cards and fight children in Walmart you nigger

Picked up a battleclade box at my hobby store earlier. Now I can actually play since GW is perma out of sicarians. Heard they were updating them, and that's why I can't find them anywhere.

>>96557672
wahapedias format is orders of magnitude worse if you're actually playing games

>>96555678
Don't know yet! I still have some bighammer models I am determined to paint before I get onto Killteam, need to learn the rules and such first!

I've got to work out how to paint the cool Kasrkin lightning stripes. I also managed to pick up a squad of the OLD metal Kasrkins from like a decade ago.

>tomb world box shows up
>Swamped at work for the next 2 weeks
Suffering

>>96561311

That's cool as fuck. Do you have a chapter preference for the deathwatch dudes?

>>96562101
No, I'm selling the DW kits at a markup to the marinesloppers

>>96562122
Damn, Fair enough man wants bank. I did look at the models and do some of the faces look a little goofy?

>>96555689
>he thinks trudeau is still in charge
unlike you nitwits we can actually fire a guy for doing a shitty job, instead of signing away more executive power to him every time he pretends he already has it.

>>96562101
Outside of the breacher being imperial fist I'm not 100% sure. Emperors spears as the watch master maybe, lamenters plasma gunner. Torn, as most of the added shoulders are so cool
>>96562122
That ain't me

>>96562175
top right is BA but desu bottom left looks like the head is a black male sculpt

>>96562326
>lamenters
fire. Hope you post the painted model when it's done

>>96562694
Ay ay captain. Id love to show off how poorly I paint yellow

>>96562326
Been thinking about making my deathwatch team all from different badab war chapter. Still trying to figure out which operative would best fit the carcharodons.

I'm making all members of my Deathwatch KT members of OC chapters

>>96498034
Scalp or give it to me

>>96499174
>The problem with Mandrakes is that they are a complex and fragile team that need lots of experience to be played well and not explode.
So they're literally the same as Dark Eldar in general in 40k then.

>>96543416
lmao alternative activation fag moved to kill team

>>96502759
I haven't played a single game of 10th but I feel like most of the complaints revolve around cunt players and the game basically enabling stuff like a 1000 point game where the other player brings all knights, legendary heroes, monsters or tanks instead of basic infantry supported by larger units like you would expect.

>>96503100
Did you start with caliban green and then do a lighter shade over it? It looks like that. I also did that but I think my paint is too thicc.

>>96504836
>yellow
Hard to paint
>faces
These are great. How did you get so good at faces?

>>96495393 (OP)
Making ork kommandos c:

>>96564368
Watch Sergeant Klathus - Laguna Legion
Aegis Vet Finnbar - Shields of Fenris
Blademaster Vet Percival - Knights Resplendent
Bombard Vet Hugo - Faithbound Stars
Breacher Vet Roman - Hands of Fate
Demolisher Vet Alessi - Thunderstrike Crusaders
Disruptor Vet Ethan - Glaring Hawks
Gunner Vet Ignatius - Death's Head
Headtaker Vet Giovanni - Los Matadores
Horde Slayer Vet Not-Appearing-In-This-Team - The Greytide
Marksman Vet Wilhelm - Crow's Claws

>>96564368
Based
Personally I prefered looking up obscure successors but anything that isn't
>most stereotypical use of first founding chapters
or
>reddits top 10 favourite chapters
is a good decision in my eyes

>played NPO game with the new DW rules
It was nice to play to the game again
It's been over a year since I got together with my friend to play

Any suggestions for whether I should paint his carapace/talons in a complementary color or continue with the chrome look? Worried it will look too monotonous without a secondary color in there.

>>96506224
Ngl my friend got the box and the deathwatch are cool sculpts, the embossed successor chapter shoulders were a nice touch. Unless you actually hate marines I’m sure there’s something on the spru you’d like

>>96504876
>I live in the South
Have you considered not live in a third world country?

>>96567895
it will look too monotonous without a secondary color in there

Tips on how to play Phobos against Sanctifiers?

>>96562175
>do some of the faces look a little goofy?
I think it's a design callback to the more cartoony faces of RT marines

>>96495393 (OP)
Are kill teams like veteran guardsmen aka death korps going to get a legends treatment or are they going to be phased out when their time comes?

>>96572117
The theory is that they'll still be given adjustments to keep them relatively in line with the other teams, and be phased out at the start of 4th or 5th edition

>>96572117
Likely deleted from the next edition but will still get balance changes until the end of KT24

>>96495393 (OP)
How autistic are people generally about weapons matching exactly when everything is mono-profile? I could field a plague marine team out of my existing collection but my champion has a power fist instead of a sword and I have a dude with the smaller plague flamer rather than the backpack plague flamer. Don't have anything that resembles the sorcerer though, how essential is he to the team?

>>96502759
Because 40k isn't trying to be a fun wargame it's trying to create an entirely new Tabletop Sport ecosystem.

>>96574670
you're asking in the wrong place
the sentiment online is generally as long as it is easy enough to tell your minis apart you'll be fine
HOWEVER, the players at your LGS could still be anal and demand WYSIWYG, so ask them

>>96574670
leader should be fine since there's no choice in loadout anyway
malignant plaguecaster is quite powerful but you can still run 6 men. the Chosen of Mortarion has a sorc, sword and plasma guy, plus noxious blightbringer which is great in bighammer. just put the first two on 32mm bases

>>96568684
KILL THE BIG PRIEST

>>96574719
I have exactly one dude at my LGS that's anal about WYSIWYG, with the effect that nobody ever plays with him, lel

Anons, do you think that teaching friends KT is easier than teaching Combat Patrol? I have a few friends who are interested in learning and are open to either one

>>96498034
>Necron player
>Didn't get a fucking chance and don't want to give scalpers any money

:(

>>96575607
KT is easy to learn as long as you take out half the mechanics first

>>96575607
Well try teaching them kill team so they don't think all tabletop gaming is shit like CP is.

>>96575607
Killteam is easier to teach because the back and forth activations give you a chance to demonstrate and correct quicker, plus it’s more engaging for the other person

>>96575607
Aside what the others already said, KT is a lot easier to teach becasue you can play it in Coop for a couple of games.

>>96575114
but the big priest can divert attacks

>>96575734
>>96575738
>>96575930
>>96576013
You're right anons. I think CP would turn him off to wargaming in general. KT it is.

>>96576199
Kill him better

>>96576484
Bit rough for phobos though
>find an opportunity to charge
>priest can divert the first fight you do
>you kill his 7 wound bodyblock by doing lethal assaults + stealth assault
>fight again
>need to inflict 2 normal hits and a crit minimum to kill the priest, which has a decent maul and potential just a scratch ability
>if you fail, you lose a marine for a single mook as the priest gets healed by the salvationist
If it works though, you do cripple the team
>>96568684
The better answer is to target the damage dealers like the melta and the proper flamer, and to never let the chainsaw murderer get an initiative charge off (look out for it dashing for free at the start of the turn for a potential long charge, that's how I did my opponent's reiver sergeant in in pic related at the start of turn 2).

Is there any Scans/Screenshots of the new Map layout for Approved Ops 2025

Shitty wip pic of current team project. They're technically tabletop ready and I'll be playing them tomorrow, but they have basically all the highlighting still left to be done.
If anyone can guess the colour scheme's reference, you get bonus points.

Why should one play kill team?

>>96579107
It's like xcom or rainbow six where the fantasy comes from an elite strike team doing tacticool shit rather than 40k's Big Explosions And Gun's. Sure there's little to no listbuilding but I find that it means there's more expression of skill when piloting the team over bighammer and just having the biggest guns and knives

>>96579107
because its fun.
F U N.. something many seem to have forgotten when it comes to tabletop games and GW in particular.

>>96579107
You can get a box, build It paint It and you are done. With things like Mandrakes, literally, you need nothing more. Some other teams may require more spending for all options.

>>96507647
Why is your inquisitor a klingon with an afro?

>>96565222

Thank you. I've always struggled with painting flesh but lately I've been making some improvements.

Anyways, that flesh is basically two paints. Vallejo game color elf skin tone over a light primer. Then Vallejo Xpress color dwarf flesh.

I kept it pretty simple because I liked the douchy surfer tan look. But one thing to do if you want to do face highlights is to glaze on multiple thin highlights so the transition is less harsh, if that makes sense.

Eyes are tough and I usually don't bother other than on characters and skirmish projects. I attached the heads to toothpicks and primed/painted them separately. I used a magnifying glass with LEDs that clamps onto my table from Amazon. To dot the eyes I got some micron pens(also on Amazon).

I don't know what chapter pads I wanna use on the deathwatch team. I know I want at least one Iron snake and a Flesh Tearer. It baffles me that Raven Guard got a Gravis pad but not a fuckin Phobos, I don't understand the logic behind some of these decisions.

>>96581384
If you want a phobos RG, you could do something like necropolis hawks that uses the sideways facing bird head as a successor.
Not sure if this image is compressed or not, if it is full scale it's a great reference for finding cool colour schemes.

>>96581401
>Hawk Lords
>actual Raven Guard symbol
>Ultramarines Successor
wat
Looking through this I might do one as the Liberators since the logo for the Raptors is basically the same.

>>96581384

Could be kinda interesting to play with the idea of misfit marines being sent by their chapters to join the Deathwatch. Like a chill Flesh Tearer who likes heavy weapons and a totally unhinged Ultramarine who likes giant hammers.

>>96581486
The Flesh Tearer pad is a Gravis so it kind of checks out
Homie is just gonna sit with his heavy bolt rifle takin' pot shots and chillin.
Blood Angel? Phobos shooty boy with the Auspex, absolutely relaxed.
Iron Hand? Hammer and shield guy. Rejects guns entirely. This could work.

>>96581486
Deciding on how a marine relates to the stereotype of their chapter is a good way to get some instant characterization down
I've got both chapter exemplars, like my hawk lord sergeant who is both well-read on the codex and a fantastic pilot, and complete aberrations; my angels of vengeance sniper asked for some sort of decoration for a critical role in a campaign and got a fancy shoulder pad and a permanent secondment to the deathwatch in reply.
And then I've got some other cases like the red scorpion primaris marine who would like to be a good chapter member but got sent away because primaris new and scary.
Just going with either the most stereotypical combo of role and chapter or the complete opposite every time without thinking is a lot less cool to me.