Thread 96502699

I like Warhammer Fantasy ogres
Post ogres
Talk about ogres

apart from their ability to adapt to other cultures, there's really not much going for them is there?
Their religion is a bigger turd than their bellies can hold. the characters are whatever, and even their ties to cathay just makes cathay more interesting, not them.

>>96502717
I just think they're neat

>>96502699 (OP)
>wargayme exists
>game designers introduce faction whose dudes are physically larger than the dudes from other factions
>soijakking commences

>>96502699 (OP)
Ogres are cool anon, keep enjoying ogres. Hopefully they get added to TOW soon.

>>96502699 (OP)
I have an ogre-slaying knife.

>>96502717
>there's really not much going for them is there?
I'm kinda with the other anon, here. They're just neat. Ogres are big burly bastards that push people into submitting to their hungers. It's based. They're an entire race of middle-school bullies that got their growth spurt early and use it to torment everyone else.

>>96502699 (OP)
I like the Challenge Stone

Really cool piece of minor lore

>>96502717
I like ogres with two heads.

>>96502699 (OP)
I hate how you can see the grey-yellow skin from when they repainted these images.

ogor time

>>96502717
>their ability to adapt to other cultures
That's something I wish was leaned more on, their ability to basically learn from and adapt other cultures' cultural icons and tech into their worldview. They do have kind of an earth elemental thing going on, like how they themselves are rather primitivist, rely heavily on blacksmithing and worship volcanoes and essentially an unnatural earth chasm, but the idea of ogres being influenced by their experiences abroad I feel is something that is something that has more opportunity. Like say what might happen if an ogre that's been stranded in Lustria eventually reunites with his kin, or a Maneater that's become used to talking with the softer humans and the like has to explain to his brethren how the smaller folk negotiate.

The fact that they can be Maneaters for any faction, any at all, is just so whimsical.

>>96507658
Yup
They'll join anyone as long as they got the coin and food to afford them
Even Chaos Ogre's aren't rejected by their kin

>>96503752
Blood maws for life

Ogres are just fun. They aren't the coolest race or the most badass but they're big fat lads with muscles and usually just enough brains to get by.
I also like the idea that in theory they were meant to be the perfect antichaos race but were left unfinished. They're pretty resistant to Chaos but not completely immune, which can lead to Chaos Ogres just chillin with the other fat lads.

>>96503180
>t.manlet

>>96510287
>cannot separate from actual people and their toy soldiers
>thinks his toys shape who he is
>is a a self-insert faggot

>>96502699 (OP)
Very based thread ogres are based

>>96509741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmStYAAgS9Q

>>96507586
That's usually how it works
Ogres can go fully native if they spend enough time in a location

I like Hasslefree Miniatures' ogres, but that company seems to have gone defunct.

>>96502699 (OP)
Eternal NPCS
Even in Age of Sigmar they have less relevance than even the Mega Giant faction

>>96514949
They're still neat
Also I can't really see people actually wanting them to be making moves in the story

>...steaming platefuls of cavebeast with raw Bretonnian in wild garlic, tough Dwarf-meat served in a gromril case, thick sausages stuffed with the finest Empire soldiery, and — widely seen as a delicacy — tender Elf legs fried in horse blood.
Which would YOU want to eat?

>>96517348
>thick sausages stuffed with the finest Empire soldiery
This
Just like momma used to make

>>96502717
>fill a niche as the true "merc" faction
>not just OCs, clearly influenced and shaped by other factions
>mystery and horror through the Great Maw
>Ice Age-tier civilization only slightly elevated by profiting off the not-Silk Road (either by guarding it or raiding it, sometimes both the same day)
>mirror civilization of utterly pathetic subgoblins
>spicy food death cult
>so intensely thinphobic that a dangerous predatory underworld of slenderogres has been created through attempted infanticide
>"Skytitan genocide? Never happened bossman, now check out our suspicious giant artillery."

>>96517445
>looks at the Ogre at the bottom right
>"By Taal, that Ogre is eating me mates but by Ranald, ain't he Dapper?"

>>96502699 (OP)
They are kinda weird. They are Mongolion nomads that live in the mountains, not the steppes. Also dont rely on horses or bows? Like im not sure what they are meant to be a real world analogue of. But they are fucking rad.

>>96521829
Basically yeah they're supposed to be based off the Mongols

>>96509741
Warhammer's take on ogres is probably one of the more original ideas Warhammer ever had.

>>96523594
What about skaven?

>>96521829
>Like im not sure what they are meant to be a real world analogue of.
The Hung are the more accurate "Mongolian Nomad" culture, while the Ogres are just... They're not really indicative of any particular culture, they're more archetypal as the cruel glutton. Of the races in Warhammer Fantasy, they're definitely the more "fairytale," in the sense that their world and way of living in it feels more like something you'd get in a storybook. The Mountains of Mourn are technically where Tibet should be, though their climate is significantly more "Land of the Lost." Going through Ogre territory evokes the same feeling as Skull Island, or Agartha. It's primeval.

I cant wait to see the new miniatures they will get in AoS (leaks and rumors say they they will reject modernity and return to something more traditional, maybe hun/mongol or cavemen)

>>96502699 (OP)
I like them. They are smaller, smarter trolls. By definition, I'd view them as corrupted humans but I prefer trolls

>>96503636
I have a sword ogre decapitation

>>96526326
RETURN TO MONKEY

>>96502699 (OP)
Goddamn Mongorians!

>>96526326
The leaker has since clarifies that that might not necessarily be the case

>>96524216
They are as well, but you mention Skaven you summon the weirdos and furfaggots

>>96530283
Well they do have history given that a bunch of ogre mercs almost destroyed skaven blight

Wish more ogre art depicted them next to people or just other races. You get the sense they're big guys by looking at them, but not that they're properly huge.

>>96502717
>there's really not much going for them is there?

better question is what WHFB races ACTUALLY have much going for them?

Skaven? Chaos?

>>96530985
based orgs
total ratman death when

>>96531610
>better question is what WHFB races ACTUALLY have much going for them?
I'd say the lizardmen given their plan

>>96531602
They typically are 10 to 12 feet tall
So they stand twice the height of the average man and the above average man

>>96532227
And they almost did it on accident

>>96532227
Sounds like Ubersreik Five is here.

>>96534767
Ubersreik Five but it's ogres
Skaven already didn't have chance

Always bet on bloat bros

>>96524216
italians are just like that

i like their song

>>96543071
Skaven blight is located in the warhammer fantasy equivalent of Italy so that tracks

>>96502699 (OP)
WHF Ogres are awesome. Giants are scary, but they are never given their own time to play. They are usually complete retards who move in pairs tops, and are on cavemen level. Sure WHF have those giants too, but in my heart the Ogres are the real deal.

They keep the giant aspect, give them flavor, give them culture, they give them enough intelligence to be a real menace, and have alliances. They give them motivation and justification to do anything. Why join the good guys? The bad guys? Why just be on the battlefield, but not conquer everything and make an empire? The hunger, the desire to eat, and the simple-minded selfishness that makes them fun.

What are some good alternate models for Ogres? I've looked at Mantic as I do like their overall design, but they lack a ton of the options to make them usable in TOW. I also like the MaxMini ones, but they don't seem super well designed for an army scale game.

Luv me ogres

>>96546437
Based

>>96545705
There's this
https://unsupported-armies.blogspot.com/2015/08/ogre-kingdoms.html

>>96502811

Always thought it was fun how GW artists and the people arranging miniatures for photos would always show a BBEG or elite unit sweeping aside some Empire soldiers in WHFB or Imperial Guard in 40K.

I mean, is it really a big deal if some giant mutants, an ancient sorceror, or a horrible demon can take out a small group of normal humans? Congrats I guess.

>>96503636
+9?

>>96502699 (OP)
how long until GW removes them from a future edition tomb kings style for being racial caricatures of Mongolian people? You know it's coming.

>>96530283
too late I'm already here

>>96551924
Including regular humans helps with establishing a sense of scale, and also gives the viewer a more personal connection to what's going on.

>>96554505
there's like one (1) model with a fu-manchu mustache, otherwise there really isn't a whole lot mongolian about them.

>>96554505
Just ignore new GW nonsense. I'm still on 6th ed, and see no need to change that.

>>96503636
You aren't there, you're at the tavern.

I’ve got an Ogre question. It’s mentioned that Ogres are gluttonous and insatiable, and that this hunger is supernatural - a result of their connection to the Great Maw. Does this mean food never satiates them? Or it takes so much food to satisfy their appetite that it’s not realistic to expect any single Ogre settlement to he properly fed? My curiosity stems from other races in the setting being described as constantly hungry, such as Skaven (due to metabolism) and things like Doombulls (supernatural bloodthirst.)

>>96568774
They can have brief moments of being satisficed after eating a tremendous amount of food but then it's back to being hungry
No tribe is full but they aren't starving either
Even if they are full they'd eat more because they honor the maw by doing so
Even before the great maw they were always hungry but that was due to their size

>>96517348
1 > 4 > 3 > 2

The elf legs would the first choice if there's enough that you can eat until you're full (there never is)

>>96568774
One of their actual story modes in Totally Warhammer 3 is for them to find a dead god, drag its corpse out of the realm of chaos, eat its divine flesh, then toss the rest into the Maw itself, and they get to experience a true satiation of their hunger for a time.

>>96502699 (OP)
I'd like Ogres more if they weren't obligate cannibals.
You can trust even a skaven to not immediately eat you as such, only kill you.

>>96575137
>You can trust even a skaven to not immediately eat you as such, only kill you.
Nah
A skaven is guaranteed to betray you at any point and eat your body straight after
An ogre will eat you if you can't provide any food or money for him

>>96575137
Skaven, orcs, goblins, beastmen, vampires, ghouls, at least some chaos mortals/deamons would all eat you. I wouldn't be surprised if lizardmen ate humans occasionally or if there is some blood drinking in a dark elf ritual sacrifice either.
I'm not sure humans would pass on eating a lizardman either if they are in need of food.

>>96554505
Zero chance. The Mongolians have two actual expys in Warhammer (Chaos Hung and the Hobgobla Khans). Ogres are more an expy of Tibet, and Tibetans are more likely to be pleased that they're getting any sort of separate representation at all then dismayed at the form that representation takes.

>>96575906
A Skaven will be plotting on betraying, killing, and eating you the second he agrees to whatever agreement, and if he's especially greedy, insane, or stupid he'll try at the most inconvenient moment for the both of you
An ogre will stick to your agreement as best he can unless you try to cheat him or can't feed him enough(which, to an ogre, is the equivalent of cheating him)

>>96577451
That's what I said

How are ogres holding up in AoS folks? What do we think of it? I work at GW btw

>>96577507
Nothing has really changed for them in AOS
Wish they kept the great maw
So they're meh like a lot of things from AOS

>>96577507
I will give AoS one compliment, its increased weirdness and scale has allowed me to introduce some strange miniatures into my Maneater themed army (Goldguts. 'Neath the Gold the 'unngry Guts!).

My slaughtermaster is a 'quartermaster', a Som'mer teeth jones miniature converted to sit atop a rhinox, so its a top hat and greatcoat wearing 'Goblin; hauling a bunch of gold and chests around underneath a parasol.

My hunter is a Warmahordes Bog Trog with harpoon gun and my Firebelly is a Fire Elemental I got for cheap off ebay. Half the Gnoblars are leftover Malifaux Gremlins for Mayor Slaughtermaster to boss around. One of my stonehorns is a one armed blind Ogor riding a dinosaur. My Yhetti's are armoured up Trolls and my Mournfang unit is a bunch of Arabian Ogres riding Hippos.

It gives the whole army an exotic globetrotting feel. They've been everywhere. Seen everything. And collected a bunch of weirdos and freaks under their banner.

>>96502699 (OP)
I love the fat Mongolian ogres. Even when I try to move away from Warhammer fantasy stuff into KoW, I just can't shake the WFB ogre out. GW got it right with them.

has anyone done a big top/circus theme for their ogres? i see some potential with strongmen, circus beasts, ringmasters, carnival food, great maw ring of fire. shame that AoS is squatting the leadbelchers because cannons are perfect