Thread 96505356

I don't even care she's a woman, but this character does not look remotely evil or menacing. She doesn't look like a "Dark" Eldar. You can't even tell if she's a generic fanatasy hero or not, they all have the same dumb blank but stern expression.

She should be cackling evily at the torment of her enemies, not making that same face Rey always did in Disney Star Wars.. Hell she even has normal colored skin when DE are meant to be sickly pale from soul consumption.

ngl shes kinda giving me DEI vibes

This is a poor-quality thread, but OP's also correct.

>>96505356 (OP)
>he made a whole thread to say the female face looks bad on a GW paint job

>>96505356 (OP)
A thread died for this.

>>96505356 (OP)

The veil option makes me think of a Mortal Kombat character.

>all covered up generic and safe
This is pretty bad. Boring too.
Man, I hope GW never "update" daughters of khaine now.

I think these are genuinely better.

>>96505356 (OP)
Is this the Baldur's Gate 3 girl?

>>96505388
Actually face isn't even that bad. OP pointed out, that she doesn't fit very well as some sort of Queen Bitch of the entire specie of sadistic maniacs

>>96505397
>looks like a mortal kombat character
Well don’t sell me on her. Someone once said the necromancy spyre hunters looks like the Toby McGuire spider man movie green goblins and now they’re still in my pile of shame.

>>96505486
Ah goddammit

>>96505356 (OP)
I just didn't think she'd be Chinese.

40k once again getting the B team model designers

>>96505453
>she doesn't fit very well as some sort of Queen Bitch of the entire specie of sadistic maniacs
Yeah, and the reasons he gave boiled down to the face being painted poorly. With the right skin tone and shading she will look a lot more cunty.

>>96505525
Kill Team, AoS, Necromunda and Blood Bowl keep eating good.

>>96505486

Have you thought about painting them a color besides metallic green?

I mean, they're basically rich jocks adventuring for fun right? I think you'd see loud personalized colors. Like medieval knights or the garish colors on some rogue trader marines.

>>96505530
Pic unrelated?

>>96505400
She's an archon, not a succubus.

>>96505531
>AoS
LOL
LMAO

>>96505583
no

>>96505400
>Man, I hope GW never "update" daughters of khaine now.
You are too late, they already introduced Witches with pants in Underworld.
But this is unironically a good thing

>>96505610
Boo.

>>96505635
Hey it's original design from AoS team you've been begging for. Previous DoK models were made by different people, for different setting.

>>96505606
The bulls cool, the other models are fine they just need another paint job. Compare those to new 40k models like OP, Sanguinary Guard, or Inquistor Coteaz which no coat of paint will fix how boring they are.

>>96505648
You are now writing fanfiction.

>>96505655
>Compare those to new 40k models like OP,
OP is way cooler than WoW rejects. Not even mentionning amount of customization comming with that kit.
>Sanguinary Guard, or Inquistor Coteaz
Bad for 40k, average sigmarines for AoS

>>96505667
How so? Original DoK models are older than AoS.

>>96505682
That I'm begging for GW to do bullshit.

>>96505670
>amount of customization comming with that kit.
It isnt even on par the with chaos lords

>>96505692
-> >>96505531

On the brighter side...
- Named character model
- Tactical Rock™ isn't completely egregious

>>96505356 (OP)
You can paint her however you want. Pale skin, red/green hair and she will look like an appropriate dark eldar

>>96505606
Still mogs most recent 40k releases

>>96505606
I like it.

>>96505796
Actually it doesn't.

>>96505802
Okay Gavin.

>>96505356 (OP)
She looks like she runs a rub'n'tug...

>>96505606
Helsmiths of Hashut look cool. Only the TOW faggots cry about them because they are not copy-paste Fantasy Chorfs (and because they are TOW faggots, they hate everything, even their own game; thats why they dont play it).

About OP, i think the problem with that model is the face. Its too plump and happy

>>96505535
>Have you thought about painting them a color besides metallic green?
Yeah only one was gonna be green ish. Doing a color shifty power rangers theme with them when I get around to them. Just trying to find the right metallics

>>96505902
>Helsmiths of Hashut look cool.

>>96505902
>Helsmiths of Hashut look cool.
>tiny bull-golem
>small mortar on a fuckhueg base
>dwarf-sized spears
.cool

>>96505964
cmon anon you can try to make an argument

>>96506009
There are no need for any argument. Post cool dudes first.

>>96505356 (OP)
I'm huffin some serious hopium for a Duke Sliscus and three armed big mandrake man models too down the line

>>96505530
The metal version of her moggs hard

>>96505356 (OP)
I looked at the image before reading the post and thought: "there's nothing wrong with it, it's quite inoffensive" and then realised that that's the problem. Her face is so bland.

you can cover her face

>>96505356 (OP)
At least she looks like a woman rather than a dysgenic inclusive potato-troon.

>>96506751
desu I like the Veil option way more

>>96505597
Anon, don’t you know that women aren’t allowed to wear more than a single napkin’s worth of cloth? Anything more is a sign of the woke mind virus and the dreaded specter of DEI.

>>96506766
it legit looks like a troons self insert

it’s on purpose the whole brand is moving away from darkness and horror to a more comic book sensibility

>>96505356 (OP)
Imo, it should be a darker paintjob. Blue and gold look too noble.

>>96506751
People would like a uncovered version that fits the faction aesthetic.

>>96507309
that must be why the latest black templar codex emphasized how they are teamkilling idiots with a mega hate boner for psykers and the grey knights codex was about how they are a shell organization crippled after the great rift formed

>>96505356 (OP)
... Honestly, the only thing wrong with it the absolute non-expression she has for the pose she's making. Like, you're doing a Captain Morgan, woman, and you've got your weapons raised- why do you look like you're bored out your gourd instead of showing even a touch of contempt for plebs or someshit?

Also, I've just notice the light in her eyes looks like it's mirrored from this angle.

>>96505368
true

>>96505356 (OP)
Get real problems.

>>96505397
Yeah I can see it
wish we had more MK aesthetics in Warhammer, Cathay would have been much better for it.

so basically some one in GW got a hard on for the shart, and decided it'd be a good idea to change space elf faction from baldies with funny ponytails and moving toward fantasy elves?

>>96507392
"People" like to bitch and whine.

>>96505356 (OP)
Malys is kind of the "good" dark eldar character, at least compared to Vect

>>96507610
yeah, it's just not properly dark eldar without that signature look of superiority

>>96505397
>>96505356 (OP)
I think she's cute

>>96510683
She (nearly) killed Cato Sicarius in a duel iirc.
That makes her good in my book.

>>96505356 (OP)
she's a based duck

>>96505902
>they are not copy-paste Fantasy Chorfs
Chorf guy here.
1. i did not want weird fisherprice balls on all my weapons
2. the hats are too samey
3. there are bald chorfs
I wouldn't have any problems with them if they fixed that and trimmed back the warcraft,
why the fuck does the banner need a bound demon ball?

>>96505356 (OP)
She's a good model, and academically the face kinda works, in that she's a healthy Trueborn with conventionally beautiful features and is mostly pretty jaded to everything in existence.

But she is a kit that would benefit from a couple more different head options.
>Masked.
>Fun Helmet.
>Bored, placid, slightly sleepy look.
>Arrogant and disgusted.
>Smug grin of feline bullshittery.
The list goes on.

>>96505356 (OP)
She looks good, hell with a decent paintjob she could probably be one of the most attractive 40k minis.
But her face just doesn't look as "sharp" as I feel Eldar should look. Like Eldar always seem to have sharp or angled features, like pointy chins, or high cheekbones and angled jaws, but she doesn't really seem to have any of that. It's too smooth and undefined. Her face looks more human then Eldar.

But is it just me, or does she kinda look like she has a bit of an "e-thot"? Like all she's missing is a light smattering of "artistic" freckles and some make up.

Why is an expressionless Cathay person leading dark eldar???

>>96515301
becuse muh dik

>>96505356 (OP)

Is that Shadowheart?

I thought that was a surprisingly fitting Cathay head on a Delf release.
That's the actual release model?

>>96505606
>posts cool as fuck picture
>"heh, this will show them"

>>96515937
>>96516066
...they just fucking copied BG3, huh.

Should’ve made her look more like her TTS counterpart

>>96519295
Should have copied the crazy bhaalspawn chick instead

>>96505397
Mileena in one of the ps2 games

>>96512419
I get the feeling a little painted eye shadow and sallow cheeks would go a long way to making her look more like a traditional DEldar

>>96505356 (OP)
All dark eldar characters both male and female should look and dress like this.
Anyone who disagrees has shit taste

>>96505356 (OP)
It's not that surprising. They gave Mike Brooks full authorial power over the current lore direction for Drukhari, and his ideas boil down to
>Vect is evil, and the Drukhari are only evil because of Vect
>Everyone who opposes him is therefore good
>Malys is a woman, so she's a good guy obviously
>Lelith just humiliated Vect on his own throne, which is good because she's a woman
Brooks doesn't really care about the previous Drukhari lore which was all about how they need to be edgy to survive, he wants to push them into the direction of becoming nobledark grimbright antiheroes who do cool counterculture things like gender reassignment surgery and lezzing out while humiliating Vect

>>96507557
Those codexes are the punishment for rejecting FemStodes.

...or something, I don't see a conspiracy behind every blade of grass like some people.

>>96523864
desu the Deldar need to be edgy to survive is shitty lore, doesn't read like Priestly lore and reads like pseudo capeshit.
The best Deldar lore is how they are literally the fall Eldar but the fall Eldar so up themselves they rejected icon worship pre-fall, seeing it as fake and gay and just wanted to practice hedonism and debauchery. After the fall, instead of learning any lessons they just kept doing it and developed some steps to insulate themselves from Chaos, like atrophying their psychic potential and living in a pocket dimension.

>>96505356 (OP)
She looks chinese

>>96523864
so just Warhammer Fantasy Dark elves but in 40k then?

>>96523680
Deathcult Assassins already have that aesthetic.

>>96525141
>>96523864
Millenial writers are physically incapable of writing stories that are not about le wholesome chungus sticking up to The Man, as much as they are incapable of realizing they're serving The Mensch.

>>96523864
I cannot comprehend the words "Dark Eldar" and "good" together in a sentence unless that sentence is "The vile Dark Eldar are very good at torturing innocents."

>>96526423
Well, DEldar hate Chaos, so, in the grand logic of HH-slop, they're "good guys" because the only thing that matters in Marvel40k is whether you oppose Chaos or not.

>>96526431
In the grand logic of HH-slop they still get slaughtered by stranded Space Wolves liberating a planet from their torturing mayhem. Making them tonight's biggest losers.

>>96507392
There are shitloads of other female DE heads. A headswap is the easiest basic bitch conversion in the world.

>>96523864
Go play Rogue Trader if you don't think DE are still all edgy assholes.

>>96526355
Boomer producers are scared of green lighting anything that feels threatening to the positions they held on for 3 decades. Millenials are not in charge of business decisions, they're forever stuck at most in mid level management and the business will die before they can climb ay higher.

>>96526431
They can be anti-Chaos and still skin people's ballsacks. It'd be like the Imperium not being xenophobic and paranoid. It's their main faction flavor, but I get what you're saying.

>>96526471
RT is made by Russians, IRL faction closest to Dark Eldar, though.

>>96505356 (OP)
I actually like this model for a spire noble for Necromunda.
Would be perfect for House Ulanti with some slight conversion

>>96527262
do eet

>>96526635
I thought they were orks. Make up your mind NAFO

>>96505356 (OP)
The pose is just shit and nothing about this model works

>>96505356 (OP)
It's Lady Malys and she may or may not be carrying the heart of a clown god in her chest.
You'd be stifling a laugh too.

>>96525141
>desu the Deldar need to be edgy to survive is shitty lore
It has always been the Deldar lore, even in 3e it was heavily implied, just not spelled out and named as a curse
>After the fall, instead of learning any lessons they just kept doing it and developed some steps to insulate themselves from Chaos, like atrophying their psychic potential and living in a pocket dimension.
Nah that shit is stupid. Vect's New Order of strong survive, weak perish is way cooler than the degenerate pre-Fall society he overthrew.

>>96526471
Rogue Trader wasn't written by Brooks and it used the RT RPG lore for the Deldar instead of the current, modern lore.

>>96527672
>I thought they were orks.
Sorry, m8, it's been long established that Orks are British working class lads.

>>96527672
ziggers are Orcs, not Orks.

>>96529676
I'm sure that annoyed Brooks since RT is probably been played by way more people than his BL books have been read

>>96529705
I guess you just completely missed all the NAFO agitprop depicting russians as Orks for the first year or so of their war, huh?
Case and point: >>96529738
But no, they were definitely depicted as 40K orks.

>>96529739
Brutal Kunnin wasn't the worst book I listened to read, but I was awfully annoyed by how his self-insert ork had such an unorky name and also was just a mini-ghazghkull. I already thought it was gay enough that Ghazzy had to level up via being transplanted onto a bigger body after being decapitated, it's that much faggier to make it a running trend.

>>96529745
>I guess you just completely missed all the NAFO agitprop depicting russians as Orks
Nah, I saw this. Ukropropaganda had been doing it since 2015 at least, NAFO just ran off the existing scripts. One thing they redacted was calling Russians "Finno-Ugric" as if it was some kind of an insult.

But if West Europeans view themselves as Eldar, Russians, Balkanoids and other Eastern Europeans, including Poland, would make a lot of sense as DEldar. Same roots, an uninitiated person from the outside won't be able to tell the difference, but very different culture.

>>96529745
Again, Russians are Orcs, as in LotR Orcs because of two reasons
1. some Russian novel set during the LotR timeline from the point of view of the orcs, depicting them and Sauron as a force of good and order and the Fellowship and Free Peoples as misguided fools in need to be saved from themselves
2. their tactics of in the invasion of Ukraine, aka sending meatwave after meatwave into the grinder. Again, it has many connections to LotR because orcs use the same tactics there as well. (in both cases, it doesn't work out)

>>96529745
>>96529771
be more subtle with the samefaging, please.

>>96529774
>2. their tactics of in the invasion of Ukraine, aka sending meatwave after meatwave into the grinder
Imagine actually believing this when every video from either side shows less than 10 miserable dudes in a trench and pileup of more than 5 armored vehicles is considered a "major offensive" (that inevitably fails).

>>96529771
>But if West Europeans view themselves as Eldar, Russians, Balkanoids and other Eastern Europeans, including Poland, would make a lot of sense as DEldar. Same roots, an uninitiated person from the outside won't be able to tell the difference, but very different culture.
This is insanely retarded, generalist logic that has nothing to do with the factions in question or even mapping general cultural analogues onto them. By this selfsame logic you could say Americans are Eldar and Canadians are DEldar.
>>96529774
They literally drew them as 40K orks, dipshit. Complete with the big tusks, green skin, and 40K accessories. Hell, I remember a certain clip of a heli crashing being responded to with HURR HURR DEY JUST LIKE ORKS. Don't try this revisionist shit with me.

I lost that webm, but since it's /poltg40k/, I know you niggers have it. Some kind of nigger buck blocking the traffic in Germany and getting in a way of a Polish car, only to be beaten within an inch of his worthless black life by a gang of /pol/acks inside.

This might very well be captioned "Tau don't realize there is more than one kind of Eldar in the galaxy".

>>96505394
A general for some game nobody plays died to discuss a new release for the game that this board was created for.
The horror!

>>96529797
>>96529798
>try to rewrite history (like any good Russian sycophant)
>get found out
>"NO! YOU! ARE TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY NAFOTROON!"
yawn

>>96529798
>By this selfsame logic you could say Americans are Eldar and Canadians are DEldar.
Canadians are Americans but gay(er). Eastern European culture is literally built around suffering, and killing each other over minor slights - so, them being DEldar makes more sense.

>>96529819
I don't care one way or the other about the fucking war, dipshit. If anything I'm annoyed that it's lasted so long and given the Russians valuable experience and time to spin up a national war industry while only bleeding the west of resources.

But that's neither here nor there, I'm not gonna let you tell me the internet at large - and this very board - wasn't inundated with people making comparisons between ruskies and 40K orks.

>>96529819
You are the reason why Irina Zarutskaya is dead. You will receive just retribution for your crimes.

>>96529852
>>96529864
>listen to me, I'm completely neutral in this conflict, NAFObot, but we must respect the strength, skill and experience of the Russian people and just give up, ok? Also hohols are just pigs that need to be purged but my heart feels for that hohol whore that got stabbed and deserved what was coming to her but I'm still sad about it. Also my anecdotal and selective memory PROVES I am right about the Ork thing.

>>96529883
No Russian ever called me goyim, NAFOtranny.

>>96529916
Neither did any Ukrainian

>>96509980
That's the thing, anon. We all have real problems. And none of those are "Games Workshop isn't making enough money off of me."

>>96529883
>we must respect the strength, skill and experience of the Russian people
You should assume your enemy is powerful and skilled, else you'll keep making the same fucking mistakes the western hegemony keeps making, retard.
>Also hohols are just pigs
Nobody said this, schizo.
>but my heart feels for that hohol whore that got stabbed and deserved what was coming to her
So you hate whites in general then? Figures a NAFOtard would just see whites as expendable fodder.

>>96530096
you're brown

>>96530096
>Figures a NAFOtard would just see whites as expendable fodder.
This tracks with most shills farms being in India.

>>96530096
>>96530152
see
>>96529791

>>96530152
>

>>96530151
I accept your concession.

>>96530245
I accept your brown skin

>>96529661
nah you are retarded and illiterate. The point is its shitty lore from the start. Doesn't make any sense that non-psykers are psychically feeding off pain.

The Deldar are not the pre-fall society, they are the smart ones that werent worshipping idols.

>>96512395
>trimmed back the warcraft
There would be no AoS if they did that, anon

>>96530624
>Doesn't make any sense that non-psykers are psychically feeding off pain.
They aren't, they're just feeding Slaanesh with it and it delays Slaanesh's curse. Again, this was already strongly implied to be the case in 3e.

>>96530656
Tbf Fantasy has some WoW artists. Mark Gibbons, for instance, drew art that would be used for Ishaya Vess's design.

>>96507288
Doesn't have weirdly coloured hair.
Are you saying attractive women are troon self inserts thus we can't have attractive women?

>>96505356 (OP)
Looks like the leader model of a discarded bespoke Kabalite Warrior Kill Team. Nothing about this reads as an archon to me and much less Lady Malys. It's sad how much the Artel W models mog this one, and if the two newly released characters are all Fart Smeldar are getting this year oof...

>>96532161
Also, didn't this bitch get imbued with magical power by Cegorach? Literally nothing about her design reflects this, but I suppose in the nu-lore she's just going to be a lady with a sword.

>>96530685
again the point is it was always shit from the beginning
>feeding slaanesh
not really, its actually that they are essence vampires using to to rejuvenate themselves and stave off death.
It was implied the practice was some sort of esoteric ritual where others souls are offered up in their place but this is metaphorical
Again doesn't make sense

>>96531910
Gibbons started as a GW artist in the 90s before doing work at Blizzard and Riot in the 2000s.

>>96534043
Oh yeah, I rechecked and did 40k art back in 90s.

>>96505402
>tfw just missed out on my chance to get a female lord in box for less than a tenner

>>96532572
>it was always shit
then you're not making a point, you're just whinging about how Dark Eldar have always been since their inception and proving you don't know they were added to the game in 3rd.
>not really, its actually that they are essence vampires using to to rejuvenate themselves and stave off death.
Only the modern lore states such a thing. Why are you using modern lore and then pretending that this is how they were portrayed in 3rd edition? And then complaining about a nonexistent discrepancy between 3rd lore and modern DE lore? Nothing you are saying makes the slightest lick of sense.

>>96512395
>1. i did not want weird fisherprice balls on all my weapons
They are XBAWX logos.

Is a cute drukhari gf worth it?

>>96505356 (OP)
Why are shadowheart hips so thin?

>>96505923
This is the entire aos aesthetics and the reason it sells. You cant sell americans a landsknecht but give him a football player with a hammer and he will cum.

>>96512395
I have these models, good stuff

Do you think they deliberately tried to make her look like Shadowheart lmao

>>96534308
you are retarded and underage stfu you dumb kid.

>>96536501
We know what the designer gooned at. Obviously a beta cuck who didnt choise karlach.

>>96505356 (OP)
>I don't even care she's a woman... You can't even tell if she's a generic fanatasy hero or not, they all have the same dumb blank but stern expression.
If you were honest even for a second, you'd admit that if this model had any kind of dramatic expression it would immediately be mocked, just like when GW releases any other female model. Leading off with "I don't even care she's a woman" out of the blue doesn't help your point. The green stuff is right there, take your shot and do better.
I'm also reading Da Big Dakka where Mike Brooks has his two Archon characters constantly controlling and neutralising their facial expressions in constant paranoia that if they show weakness at any moment, their rivals will immediately launch all of their schemes to unseat them.

>>96536810
I think you just don't know what the hell you're talking about, desu.

>>96505356 (OP)
Meanwhile in the designers office:
>OK, we want more evil cackling, less star wars. And for the love of god, give her more soul consumption!
In other words shut up you fucking idiot

>>96539255
>I'm also reading Da Big Dakka
I loved the part where Mike turned the Deldar into bumbling idiots who somehow got outwitted by Orks and allowed them to simply massacre half of Commorragh. Love that so much.

>>96540962
Mike Brooks sucks at DEldar. The Lelith book was ass, and made them too normal. Valedor was a better eldar book. Brooks just jerks off Orks.

>>96523680
That works for the rank-and-file, but characters should go crazy. Wearing a face over your helmet is cool and all, but why not just use corpses for your whole armour?

>>96511093
>I think she's cute
I think that's kind of the problem desu
She's cute but that means she isn't menacing which is a big part of the dark eldar design identity. If she were a hero for the sigmar elves she'd honestly fit right in, but as part of the no shit evil space elf vampires who torture you to worse than death in horrible nasty ways, she just does not look the part

>>96541412
I think (. ᴗ .) that if the kawaii elfu kanojo looks the onaji (ಥ _ ಥ) as all the other kuro elfus (≧﹏ ≦) then they moshikasite lose some tokubetsu-ness desu kedo......

>>96536010
Do you like having skin? Your answer will be the inverse.

>>96541271
>Mike Brooks sucks
All that needed to be said, really.

>>96540604
>more evil cackling, less star wars.
What does this mean? The main villain of the original and prequel trilogies is a cackling psychopath.

>>96505356 (OP)
u can prob paint her more dark eldary

>>96542966
Shame the smiling head isn't an alternative.

>>96512395
>waah they don't like the old ones

>>96542966
That's an improvement, even if I'm still not a huge fan of the armour. Maybe it's the paintjob. It seems more corsair than "Lord in Commorragh" to me, at least.

>>96546063
Guy who thinks all the eldar factions share a design language by accident, not because they are rival post apocalypse gangs picking over the same ruins.

>>96512419
cuuuuuuuuuuuuute!

>>96542966
why does this character feel like they're about to get the FULL Shadowheart treatment.
>here is your soulstone and white hair, aeldari malys
no one will ever do the bad guy -> good guy conversion better than Hexadecimal's "I joined the heroes because I want to fuck Bob"

>>96546512
>shadowheart
She's called SHART
>aeldari
ELDAR

Say no to coprospeak!

>>96546529
but Corpospeak is double-plus-good!

>>96546512

"Shadowheart"?

>Lady Malys
>also known as Clownheart