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Anonymous No.96508086 >>96508139 >>96508221 >>96508226 >>96508574 >>96509260 >>96509330 >>96509472 >>96511935 >>96512679 >>96514415 >>96523548 >>96523724 >>96524569 >>96527356 >>96528004 >>96529178 >>96529183 >>96529841 >>96530850 >>96533433 >>96534156 >>96538191 >>96538235 >>96539048 >>96545702 >>96545845
He was right

(Also outercircle and Gamza too)
Anonymous No.96508090
okay
so what now
Anonymous No.96508093
>sloptubers
Anonymous No.96508097 >>96508154 >>96512422
Outercircle has slowly morphed into a right winger because of his fanbase it’s funny as fuck
Anonymous No.96508139 >>96508145
>>96508086 (OP)
About what? I watched his videos on Avatar and Starship Troopers and they were pretty bad. It's like he's always trying to push a narrative of his own despite complaining about left wingers having an agenda.
Anonymous No.96508145 >>96533236
>>96508139
he used to add in rightwing propaganda to Warhammer lore too
Anonymous No.96508150 >>96513578
what even happened to gamza?
Anonymous No.96508154
>>96508097
So outercircle was right… AAAND β€œRight”
Anonymous No.96508156
About?
Anonymous No.96508159 >>96508167 >>96508183 >>96512443
Macca was actually correct on GW design prices and design but by god are his other opinions dogshit and his issue is you need to agree with everything he says or else he sends his aussie group of facebook users after you
Anonymous No.96508167 >>96511935 >>96512454
>>96508159
I dont get how anyone likes outercircle oh wow he says GW is too expensive crazy news thanks for highlighting that
Anonymous No.96508183 >>96512443
>>96508159
Nah I have commented and told him to fuck off and no one gang mobs me. Maybe you are just a weak bitch?
Yes, his comments on model design and the plastics industry are basically the best you can get on YouTube since he is actually in the industry. His personal taste stuff ranges from meh to trash
Anonymous No.96508216 >>96508229 >>96508246 >>96508280 >>96508288 >>96511724 >>96511815 >>96512092 >>96518842 >>96526598 >>96531867 >>96539462
Artist working for Arch, ama
Anonymous No.96508221 >>96512429
>>96508086 (OP)
You've posted these exact three in at least 1 other /tg/ thread and one /co/ thread. Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true, you miserable faggot.
Anonymous No.96508226 >>96512429
>>96508086 (OP)
Fuck off, Arch.
You're only entertaining when your vtuber gal pals are bullying you.
Anonymous No.96508229 >>96508235
>>96508216
Did you work on the badab stuff? Who was the guy he accidentally used and made badab era marines primaris?
Anonymous No.96508235
>>96508229
You asked me that last time. You need to show me the artwork and I can tell you who it was.
Anonymous No.96508246 >>96508327
>>96508216
You hang out here too much. Post any of your art that’s chaos related, help make this thread worth visiting
Anonymous No.96508280 >>96508327
>>96508216
What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Anonymous No.96508288 >>96508327 >>96523695
>>96508216
Tell his discord 4chan hates them
Anonymous No.96508293 >>96508311
okay
so what now
Anonymous No.96508311 >>96508333
>>96508293
I dont understand why you are acting like this, you seem less like an artist and more like an orbiter for arch sama
Anonymous No.96508327 >>96513380
>>96508280
7 meters per second
>>96508246
Have sketches of Arkos from Alpha Legion from a commission I did for him years ago.
>>96508288
That's like taking the piss from one latrine and putting it into the other
Anonymous No.96508333 >>96508347
>>96508311
I don't understand why this thread needed to be posted, when I don't even know who this person is, and what effect him being right about whatever he said has on my games, or what relevance this whole thread and its premise even has on games to begin with.
Anonymous No.96508347
>>96508333
>I don't understand why this thread needed to be posted
It's bait. Like most threads here meant to simulate geniune conversation but it's actually an abuse of autists who can't put the ball down.
Anonymous No.96508362 >>96508426
E-celeb spam should get you a 6 month ban and the mods should dox you.
Anonymous No.96508426
>>96508362
carnac or Ben made the thread anyway
Anonymous No.96508574
>>96508086 (OP)
who the fuck is this? i don't watch youtubers
Anonymous No.96508680
Said by someone wrong and retarded just like Arch, Outercircle and Gamza.
Anonymous No.96509260
>>96508086 (OP)
Who?
>Gamza
Bottom feeder who makes clickbait, literal trash.
Anonymous No.96509270 >>96511833
Watch nellop too he speaks the truth
Anonymous No.96509330
>>96508086 (OP)
I like him. He's fun.
Anonymous No.96509472 >>96511806 >>96514264 >>96514293 >>96539474
>>96508086 (OP)
Why did he put on a fake British accent that sounds like something out of a bizarre comedy? Like it was so exaggerated and over the top to the point that it felt like some sort of parody. Did he think it would make him sound sophisticated? Why not just learn received pronunciation if you wanted to sound "English" instead of Norwegian?
Anonymous No.96511583
So whatever this guy was right about, how does this have any effect on my games?
Can you actually tell me?
Anonymous No.96511724 >>96514147
>>96508216
What does one of your finished pieces look like and what are your rates?
Anonymous No.96511806
>>96509472
It's a common thing that autistic people do. They don't understand that what sounds real in their heads might sounds fake or ridiculous to other people.
I know because I used to do this in high school because I was ashamed about being from a working class family.
Also Arch doesn't have any irl friends; his online persona is his only form of social contact. It's sad but you can understand why he'd be a lunatic political junkie.
Anonymous No.96511815 >>96514147
>>96508216
when is the hour long Avatar video coming out? I want to see more of his brainlet opinions.
Anonymous No.96511833
>>96509270
His latest video is him taking a short article about space marine 2 out of context so he can talk about how normies are ruining warhammer. It's totally dishonest content.
Anonymous No.96511935 >>96512454
>>96508086 (OP)
Leftwing people are annoying and false but you can't let rightwing autists run the world, just fucking look at them.

>>96508167
There are a million other games these fags could be playing. Inability to reach Games Workshop escape velocity is why they still churn out overpriced nonsense.
Anonymous No.96512044
Literally all outercircle complained about was tourists, the disservice to the Alan Bligh era of writing and bad corporate practices then the BLM pastel flag wavers immediately went to character attacks. Lmao you can't even be more transparent with who's blatantly not here for the hobby.
Anonymous No.96512092 >>96514147
>>96508216
If I wanted to hire you for some TC art for a local group what would your rates look like for a commercial license for your work? (In the chance it gets used for advertisements at a local gaming club)
Anonymous No.96512422 >>96539959
>>96508097
>40 year old vet tradesman leans conservative.
okay so what's the proof anyway?
Anonymous No.96512429
>>96508226
>>96508221
>these guys think the guy starting the bait threads are doing so because they believe the point.
low IQ detected
Anonymous No.96512443
>>96508159
>>96508183
What opinions of his are shit?
Anonymous No.96512454 >>96514303 >>96530969
>>96511935
>>96508167
>plastics factory manager breaks down issues with GW business model, issues with the long term health of the business etc
>>just play another game faggot
bro everyone follows GW's model.
Anonymous No.96512679 >>96512769
>>96508086 (OP)
This guy and Shadversity are quite literally the gayest people mother fuckers on earth and they latch onto the newest political discourse to stoke flames and make money. They objectively make communities worse for their own benefit and the fact they have fans that do the same drives me insane. You will never hear these mother fuckers discuss the game, its always about some inane shit like femstodes or something.

Also Archcast sounds like such a faggot its unreal, how anyone can sit down and listen to his fake accent for more than 3 seconds is beyond me.
Anonymous No.96512769 >>96513009
>>96512679
People are so desperate for media commentators that politically agree with them they completely forget that they're also meant want ones that are good and who aren't retarded. If sticking with your side means watching Shad you should either not watch anything or just watch the people who disagree with you.
Anonymous No.96513009 >>96513479 >>96514257
>>96512769
>shad
bro have you seen breadtubers?
i'm not even a fan of shad but it's like the gayest shit ever and it's by choice
Shad's a fucking autismo, bro didn't chose this.
Anonymous No.96513380 >>96514147
>>96508327
can i comission something to you? if yes then where?
Anonymous No.96513479 >>96513649 >>96514230 >>96519474 >>96521563 >>96526655
>>96513009
>but bread tubers!
They're irrelevant, people use the term but I dont think there are actually any out there making a difference.
>Shad is autismo
Shad isnt bad because he's autistic, he's bad because he's a hack with an over inflated ego. For a sword youtuber he knows basically nothing and its apparent to even people who know just the fundamentals of fencing. Hes also a self-proclaimed historian but he's too lazy to ever use more than one source or he just pulls information from memes.
Anonymous No.96513578 >>96533240 >>96539136
>>96508150
He camps on his discord server, preaching messianic judaism, railing against warhammer, and attempting to imitate Nick Fuentes.
See
Anonymous No.96513649 >>96526655
>>96513479
>shad
No need to say more. The word "hack" doesn't cut it.
Anonymous No.96514147 >>96545704
>>96511724
>>96512092
>>96513380
I'm one of the three artists who did Badab War art. Also I'm closed. Got enough work as it it, but thank you for asking. Discord: Daandric
>>96511815
Dunno. Sometimes he commissions art a whole year in advance.
Anonymous No.96514230
>>96513479
I don't know if I've even seen the most obnoxious and vacuous bread tubers not get the things they supposedly like on the level of Shad. You can think breadtubers are pretentious or have stupid political beliefs, but if they make a video about liking a video game they probably passably understand a lot of what's good about that game from a certain position of "getting it". Other people might interpret parts of the thing differently or focus on and emphasise aspects of it differently, they might disagree on things or like different things about it different amounts in somewhat different ways, but compared to Shad a given breadtuber broadly operates inside the circle of "this person understands what it means to really like and appreciate a movie, game etc."

Shad can't even tell the difference between real stuff he supposedly loves and appreciates and ai slop. The only legitimate passion where he "gets it" I might recognize from him is HEMA. Not even history, specifically the playing around with historical weapons right now to try and figure out what works. But he delusionally thinks he's also a book guy and a movie guy and an art guy. And that might just be that I'm not into HEMA so don't pick up on his opinions on that somehow being unimaginably shit
Anonymous No.96514257 >>96519552 >>96540409
>>96513009
I don't know if I've even seen the most obnoxious and vacuous bread tubers not get the things they supposedly like on the level of Shad. You can think breadtubers are pretentious or have stupid political beliefs, but if they make a video about liking a video game they probably passably understand a lot of what's good about that game from a certain position of "getting it". Other people might interpret the thing or large parts of it differently or focus on and emphasise aspects of it differently, they might disagree on things or like different things about it different amounts in different ways. Anyone can have controversial opinions and unusual reactions to things, but compared to Shad a given breadtuber broadly operates inside the circle of "this person understands what it means to really like and appreciate a movie, game etc."

Shad can't even tell the difference between real stuff he supposedly loves and appreciates and ai slop. He doesn't get any of it on even the thoughtless level of responding to good stuff because its good, and not having that same reaction to bad stuff or stuff that doesn't even qualify as the same thing. The only legitimate passion where he "gets it" I might recognize from him is HEMA. Not even history, specifically the playing around with historical weapons right now to try and figure out what works. But he delusionally thinks he's also a book guy and a movie guy and an art guy. And that might just be that I'm not into HEMA so don't pick up on his opinions on that somehow being unimaginably shit.

Maybe you can find some moderately popular breadtuber that bad. I think I only really know a couple of them. But Shad is infinitely worse than all the ones I know about.
Anonymous No.96514264 >>96514313
>>96509472
It's genuine, I have known guys who sound like him. It sounds fake because he swings and swoons his voice constantly due to him being in "presentation" mode. It's the same as most youtubers who work off of a script, but Arch tries to be more perfomative with his smug character so it becomes very apparent and weird.
Anonymous No.96514273
who?
Anonymous No.96514293
>>96509472
Its a 2000s/early 2010s autist throwback. Before autists got caught up in knowing what cringe is but being agonizingly uncertain how to avoid it. Before they were afraid of being cringe. This is the fedora era. There was this concept of a form of cool based on being barely ironically like fancy and sophisticated, some people would constantly bring up Ron Burgundy-like affectations like how you drink whiskey or something, and some people have this idea of certain british accents being casually sophisticated and connoting a renaissance man breadth of interests and tasteful hobbies. They were still into like anime and general nerd culture of course, and to an extent this whole vibe was a way of trying to water that down with "normal", adult interests and behaviour and virtues, going to friday night magic with a cane and conspicuously carrying around a single cheap cigar, not realising that stuff, the way they went about it, was more cringe than just being super into the regular nerd stuff.
Anonymous No.96514303 >>96519574
>>96512454
People have been "pointing out issues with the long term health of GW" for literally 25 years. If he is actually 40 and not new to the game he would know this and be self-conscious about beating the same old worn out drum of cope.
Anonymous No.96514313 >>96515917
>>96514264
It is honestly on the same level of performativity as an AMAB wearing dresses and saying they're a woman.

Arch is pretending to be intelligent, confident, cultured and capable and the other person is pretending to be a woman, and both depend completely on the charitable, altruistic grace of people around them to play along with their chosen role.
Anonymous No.96514415 >>96523648
>>96508086 (OP)
Traditional games?
Anonymous No.96515917
>>96514313
>AMAB
>All Mapmakers Are Bastards
Fuck you too, Copernicus.
Anonymous No.96518842 >>96519267
>>96508216
How was he to work with?
Anonymous No.96519267 >>96519290 >>96519490 >>96534554
>>96518842
Completely different than what you see on youtube. Extremely good client, gives a lot of freedom to the artists to do what they think is best. Very, very polite in private.
Anonymous No.96519290 >>96521418 >>96521543 >>96534554 >>96546104
>>96519267
Right-Wingers are fucking great to work for as a artist because they're so naive when it comes to working with "creatives", more often than not they'll throw you the entire amount, leave you alone until the deadline then be like "You done?" then if you get something wrong they'll blame themselves for not being clear enough.
Anonymous No.96519474
>>96513479
>irrelevant
i mean i ain't defending him,
but yeah my man he's the same breed of retard different team.
Anonymous No.96519490
>>96519267
Thats pretty cool, glad hes like that
Anonymous No.96519552 >>96521563
>>96514257
>but if they make a video about liking a video game they probably passably understand a lot of what's good about that game from a certain position of "getting it".
I actually do have a couple, some of them are older folks from the scene but my experience is they have a habit of distorting reality to re-frame it into what they want.
see Hbomb's darksouls 2 video.
Dan olsen on TGWTG
That one guy who said that horror is inherently anti-right wing.
and that other guywho spoke of modern art but didn't really understand it.
If i had time i'd bring up IS and go through my issues with his work.
any of the debate bros off the dome.

Here's the conclusion i want, i'm going to work backwards from that and then build a story whilst doing so.
I don't disagree that shad's shit but i think a little knowledge is dangerous knowing the work and twisting it to your benefits i think fucks conversation more broadly.
but i also have a particular dislike for the "media literacy" people because they're artsy but not artists if you understand me.
shad's not an artist, bro has stupid opinions on AI but that's fine. dude's not trying to be
but when you get these people in their fucking disco colours, costumes and making a drama class production for an essay where you say "cartoon/game/etc] is cool and smart and anti capitalism and here's why" is gay as site before you even get to the fact that they're twisting the facts to provide their preferred interpretation on art.
it's worse that these people pretend, shad's an enemy outside, they're aids.
Anonymous No.96519574
>>96514303
Whatever the fuck you're trying to say here is so confusing and stupid it barely deserves recognition.
if you don't see the issues with GW setting the standard nor see the value a plastics manufacturer would bring to a discussion of the business of plastics then idunno
IQ issue.
Anonymous No.96521418
>>96519290
Wow. So wrong on many levels.
Anonymous No.96521431 >>96521530
does he even own any minis
Anonymous No.96521530 >>96521549
>>96521431
He has skavens, dunno about what else.
Anonymous No.96521543 >>96523600 >>96531880
>>96519290
>naive
Huh? That just sounds like a good client.
Anonymous No.96521549
>>96521530
>skaven
He really is a fag
Anonymous No.96521563 >>96524480
>>96513479
>and its apparent to even people who know just the fundamentals of fencing.
Elaborate>>96519552
>That one guy who said that horror is inherently anti-right wing.
That sounds like saying chicken soup is inherently anti right wing. What could be logic possibly be?
Anonymous No.96523548
>>96508086 (OP)
He needs to drop the faux-English-Victorian-gentleman's accent, but he is right.
I think that's why people hate him the most because underneath the annoying accent he needs to drop, he is genuinely correct.
Anonymous No.96523600
>>96521543
If your a client and paying the ridiculous prices western artists demand and not getting revisions your a fool. Zero interaction no modifications commissions are 200-300% cheaper from sites like Skeb.
Anonymous No.96523648
>>96514415
>Traditional Games
Sorry anon the actual board name is "Tradcath literally who ecelebs with shit takes who don't actually play games" but that was too long for the top banner
Anonymous No.96523684
Does this count as spamming? This is the 3rd time ive seen this exact same thread.
Anonymous No.96523695
>>96508288
no we don't
Anonymous No.96523724
>>96508086 (OP)
Arch: more or less
Outer circle: no
Gamza: no also extremely cringe
Anonymous No.96524480
>>96521563
>What could be logic possibly be?
it was pretty flawed, but the guy was arguing the shocking and graphic nature of horror, how it emphasizes spectacle and defies cultural norms is why.
Anonymous No.96524569
>>96508086 (OP)
Anonymous No.96526598
>>96508216
Opinion on rat-girls?
Anonymous No.96526655 >>96527970
>>96513479
>>96513649
lol seething
Anonymous No.96527329
You know what would make threads like this infinitely better?
If you just add "about [thing] when he said [opinion]" in the OP, so people can discuss the actual subject from the start rather than spend half the thread going "literally who?" and the second half talking (complaining) about the irrelevant person.

But obviously that won't happen as the point is to just shovel more shit into the pile since OP doesn't care about discussion and just likes watching people get buried in shit.
Anonymous No.96527356
>>96508086 (OP)
He is right. He just needs to drop the accent he always puts on.
Anonymous No.96527970 >>96529568
>>96526655
>replies to two day long posts
>"lol seething"
Sounds like someone is upset lol
Anonymous No.96528004
>>96508086 (OP)
Was? Did he suddenly become a commie or something?
Anonymous No.96529178
>>96508086 (OP)
Niggling
Anonymous No.96529183
>>96508086 (OP)
Nobody likes a prophet that is accurate. They want prophets who are wrong or obscure so they can laugh at them.
Anonymous No.96529568 >>96529746
>>96527970
Some people do actually read the thread when they come into it for the first time, now tell us all about how some aussie hurt your feelings by saying men aren't women
Anonymous No.96529746 >>96530660
>>96529568
>claims to read
>goes off a tangent about my feelings being hurt over his politics and not that he's a "hack"
Wow you sure read the thread a lot.
Anonymous No.96529841 >>96530764 >>96530806 >>96530819 >>96535297
>>96508086 (OP)
If he's so right why is GW more profitable and popular than it's ever been? The market has spoken. Arch isp wrong.
Anonymous No.96530660 >>96530801
>>96529746
Seethe more big guy and keep being mad
Anonymous No.96530764
>>96529841
Financially abusing paypigs who do not have self control is not a viable long-term strategy (I may be wrong though, autistic consumers are ridiculous).
Anonymous No.96530801
>>96530660
Concession accepted
Anonymous No.96530806 >>96530861 >>96531373
>>96529841
Short-term profit gains using unwise business strategies that will exhaust the long-term market share is generally not a great way of making money. And I have a feeling that a good part of its current success is thanks to games like Space Marine 2, not so much the current state of the tabletop. I don't even know anyone who likes what they've done with 10th, let alone what they're doing to 30k now by raping it into a 3 year dev cycle
Anonymous No.96530819 >>96531373
>>96529841
>GW shareholders made money! That means GW games are good! I win, yay!
Anonymous No.96530850
>>96508086 (OP)
>Gamza
I'll never forget that grifter for removing his Trash Terrain videos.
Anonymous No.96530861 >>96530870
>>96530806
>And I have a feeling that a good part of its current success is thanks to games like Space Marine 2, not so much the current state of the tabletop

Lol no. The largest positive impact on sales by and large can be attributed to 8th edition, the release of AoS, or the release of primaris.
Anonymous No.96530870 >>96530919 >>96534018
>>96530861
Oh yeah, everyone LOVES 8th edition and Primarchslop, can't wait for them to squat Primaris finally and release the new Bigger-er Batman. They can call the new marines Primarchis to show how they're almost as big as Primarchs now!
Anonymous No.96530919 >>96530957 >>96530966 >>96531019
>>96530870
>Oh yeah, everyone LOVES 8th edition and Primarchslop, can't wait for them to squat Primaris finally and release the new Bigger-er Batman. They can call the new marines Primarchis to show how they're almost as big as Primarchs now!

No matter what vague internet miasma of discourse you're going to try to point to, the data shows only that primaris, 8th edition, and Age of Sigmar are wildly more popular than what came before.
Anonymous No.96530957 >>96531133
>>96530919
> the data shows only that primaris, 8th edition, and Age of Sigmar are wildly more popular than what came before.
It doesn't, actually. Stock values aren't necessarily tied to specific products, and sales can also by modulated by irregular factors (such as everyone being locked inside). GW's stocks are largely based on investor speculation that Warhammers are going to be the next big nerd pop-culture phenomenon (they're wrong for thinking so). Any actual sales figures are kept private.
Anonymous No.96530966
>>96530919
Trvth nvke
Anonymous No.96530969
>>96512454
And usually executes it worse, or shoots themselves in the foot with unforced errors.
Anonymous No.96530983
Fuck off back to /pol/ cunt.
Anonymous No.96531019 >>96531052 >>96538070
>>96530919
>No matter what vague internet miasma of discourse you're going to try to point to, the data shows only that primaris, 8th edition, and Age of Sigmar are wildly more popular than what came before.
I already pointed out you're only looking at short-term gains. GW is damaging its intellectual property with its policies. The effects won't be felt just yet because the franchise just recently entered the mainstream and it's still reaping the benefits of that with tons of new players. But this momentum won't last, and the stable core fanbase it used to have is being steadily pushed away to appeal to more and more normies. In the end it'll plateau hard and turn into Star Wars and Star Trek 2.0, corpse franchises being used like Weekend at Bernie's by corpo suits who don't know or care about why they were popular in the first place.
Anonymous No.96531052 >>96531115
>>96531019
>GW is damaging its intellectual property with its policies.

Just as one example: even if The Old World succeeds beyond all expectations, to the point that AoS is discontinued and they drop "The Old World" and just go back to calling it Warhammer (Fantasy), it still wont fix what they did. They can claim it never happened, can reset to the original timeline, but it won't be enough. The brand is permanently marred.
Anonymous No.96531115 >>96531200
>>96531052
>have an ip performing below expectations
>kill it for new ip
>new ip starts performing well after rocky start
>notice demand for old ip
>bring back old ip
>performs better than expected
>now have two ips doing significantly better than your old one ip
This is where gw's at right now
Hypothetically if tow became so succesful that it consumes aos then it will already be infinitely better (for gw) than whfb was, so from gw's perspective : who gives a fuck if the brand is "marred"
The brand is *already* marred and it still wildly popular (in this hypothetical scenario), the new playerbase would vastly outsize the old one.
I also don't really see the star wars comparison, because that shit was a hit from day one. Don't know shit about star trek so I won't comment ont that.
Anonymous No.96531128
These threads are always so productive
Anonymous No.96531133 >>96531200
>>96530957
>It doesn't, actually. Stock values aren't necessarily tied to specific products,

Anon they release their profit records every year. They're a Publicly traded company they legally have to release that info to stockholders every fiscal year.
Anonymous No.96531200 >>96531376
>>96531115
I didn't say anything about Star Wars/Trek.

>Hypothetically if tow became so succesful that it consumes aos then it will already be infinitely better (for gw) than whfb was
No, because they could've reformed Fantasy instead of killing it and replacing it. IP integrity is huge for a business like GW (which is why they're so litigious). Even in this scenario of ours where Fantasy becomes bigger than ever, the IP will never get rid or the scar of being Sigmared.

>>96531133
Stock prices aren't sales. Sales in one product line don't equate to sales in another line. Overall profits don't relate to individual products.
Anonymous No.96531373 >>96531449
>>96530806
>Short term profit

Remains to be seen whether or not it's short term, and if earnings do drop than can easily be explained with rising costs of living against stagnant wage growth

>>96530819
People wouldn't be overwhelmingly choosing 40k as their wargame of choice amongst a sea of competition unless 40k was doing things right. All the perceived negatives and alleged evils of GW are easier to see than ever thanks to social media yet people are still choosing 40k. It's clear what GWs audience wants and how they feel about the business and it's practices
Anonymous No.96531376 >>96531458 >>96531517
>>96531200
Apologies I thought you were the same guy as the one you replied to and just following up with an example.
>even in this scenario where fantasy becomes bigger than ever, the IP will never get rid of the scar of being Sigmared.
Righr, but again, why would it matter? It's seemingly doing well enough to eclipse fantasy sales before being scarred, so clearly being a marred ip doesn't actually impact sales negatively all that much, at least in this scenario.

Also maybe relevant to the other conversation but gw releases their revenue in their annual reports no? I seem to remember that being like 5 times the size of what it was in 2015. I think it's fair to assume that people liking the 'main product' of gw, ie marines, might have something to do with that.
Anonymous No.96531383
Bro this is crazy this shits still up
Anonymous No.96531449
>>96531373
>People wouldn't be overwhelmingly choosing 40k as their wargame of choice amongst a sea of competition unless 40k was doing things right.
The models are (technically) very good, so credit where it's due.

Beyond that, people also like 40k because they like the setting, but that was established a LONG time ago (and they're continually sabotaging this). 40k also has the advantage of being the first big wargame, and that creates momentum.

Everything it "did right," it did decades ago. It's coasting. The talent and passion isn't there anymore.
Anonymous No.96531458
>>96531376
No worries, my mistake on that.

It would matter, because even if the IP becomes more valuable than ever*, the "marring" permanently devalues what it could've been. Instead of:

>value = x
it's
>value = x - (xβ‹…y)


*this may have already happened due to the Total War games... didn't care for them myself, but that's a different topic
Anonymous No.96531517
>>96531376
For the second part, if I'm remembering right, you're talking profit report, not revenue. Shutting down/downsizing stores effected profit margins (even if they were operating profitably, though I'm not sure how profitable GW stores are, since they're mainly used to introduce customers to their products). Licensing fees also contribute to profits, even if they don't bring in much total revenue, because they cost nothing. Around when Rountree came in, they massively ramped up licensing.
Anonymous No.96531867
>>96508216
Will you be my gf
Yes [ ]
yes, but lowercase [ ]
Anonymous No.96531880 >>96531891
>>96521543
Mighty white opinion to conflate childish naivety with being "good" lol.
Anonymous No.96531891 >>96531900 >>96531936
>>96531880
>high-trust people create pleasant society
>"heh, what morons" (lives in shit)
Anonymous No.96531900 >>96531936 >>96532183 >>96534492
>>96531891
>high-trust people
Don't you also believe your entire government is infiltrated by pedophiles lol
Anonymous No.96531936 >>96532183
>>96531900
>>96531891
No response to that one, huh pussy?
Anonymous No.96532183 >>96532207
>>96531936
>>96531900
NTA but I'm pretty sure high trust societies refers to their propensity to trust their in-group more, with each step outward that trust gets progressively diminished. Government people who live in the other side of the country is almost as far removed as foreigners.
Meanwhile you get people who think that the only way to make a difference in society is top down government oversight, because their own communities and even family members can't be trusted. Which one sounds more high trust to you, exactly?
Anonymous No.96532207 >>96532357
>>96532183
>NTA but I'm pretty sure high trust societies refers to their propensity to trust their in-group more
Except of course for the fact that the in-group is ruled by a bunch of pedophiles lol.
>Government people who live in the other side of the country
Nowhere in his post was this said, try again.
Anonymous No.96532357 >>96532370
>>96532207
> Nowhere in his post was this said, try again.
Yeah but it was in yours.
Anonymous No.96532370 >>96534492
>>96532357
>Yeah but it was in yours.
No, it wasn't. Try again.
Anonymous No.96533236
>>96508145
proof?
Anonymous No.96533240 >>96538227 >>96545521
>>96513578
Gamza is jewish?
Anonymous No.96533433 >>96534041 >>96539510
>>96508086 (OP)
It's weird I never feel particularly enamoured of or full accepted by the left or right. I can't shake the feeling that Arch is more chill IRL but there isn't much point denying he is a Spazmo Online For Money. Collectively other Chud nerds see the bitch tits and whining weekly about pop culture and know not to punch right.

It's the rightoid gamer equivalent of she/her plot armour, just talk a lot about how woke Batman is or how XMen 37 might not be as fresh as the first 36 and you can make mad moneh being a Spazmo.

>wah why isn'y my shrinking demographic being personally catered to
>I couldn't possibly enjoy the last 4000 years of civilisation, The Addams Family should have been written for ME! If middle aged men aren't coddled with distractions depicting a world that doesn't exist, society is over!

Etc
Anonymous No.96534018 >>96534540 >>96534610
>>96530870
Someone should buy Arch a Primaris squad and sent it to him. He LOATHES them.
Anonymous No.96534041
>>96533433
Arch definitely has made it clear that he doesn't even remotely believe the right won't become a censorship lovers just because they're currently riding the 'free speech' wave, so who knows. He might be chill IRL. But he's definitely got his opinions on 40k lore. Wonder if he even plays any games because they're all taking place during 8th ED.
Anonymous No.96534156
>>96508086 (OP)
Far right even
Anonymous No.96534492 >>96534844
>>96531900
>>96532370
> Don't you also believe your entire government is infiltrated by pedophiles lol
Based actual retard
Anonymous No.96534540 >>96534750
>>96534018
woah based primaris is cringe
Anonymous No.96534554 >>96536472
>>96519267
>>96519290
>"Oh, he was a nice client."
>"Heh, what an idiot."
????
This board really went from /tg/ to r/tg.
Anonymous No.96534588
>It's another thread with redditor faggots telling me what I should like
I like Outercircle, I find his videos enjoyable. I had a good time painting when he made that stream on Imperial Armour Volume 13.
If redditors in this board don't like that, frankly, that's their problem.
Anonymous No.96534610
>>96534018
Feel free to do that to me too, I'll just convert them into Space Marines like I did with one of the Necron vs Primaris starters I got.
Anonymous No.96534750 >>96537724
>>96534540
It's funny cuz he does it for the fashion. We all know he doesn't truly commit to it.
Anonymous No.96534844 >>96535143
>>96534492
Did you fail to quote the part where I said they live on the other side of the country or does that part not exist? :^)
Anonymous No.96535143 >>96535154
>>96534844
...Do you think people on the east coast don't exist or something?
Besides, it has less to do with geographic location and more to do with social distance. The guy running your country is more or less a complete stranger to you, their interactions are entirely impersonal, unless you know them personally in which it's a moot point.
Anonymous No.96535154 >>96535225
>>96535143
Oh what's that, still no quote? Lmfao
>B-but your leaders are all complete strangers to you!
So a high trust society is when you presume complete strangers to be pedophiles lol.
Anonymous No.96535225 >>96535269
>>96535154
Are you physically incapable of taking wider content into account or are you just a pedantic nitwit?
The point I made about high trust societies is that you can assume that the people you don't really know aren't so incompetent that you can't so much as go to the grocery store and buy food without getting food poisoning or without the stocks being empty, or that you can't walk around your neighborhood without getting shot.
When society starts to break down, when leaders get saxked for being kid diddlers or sex offenders or satanists or glowie enablers or whatever else you wanna disapprove of, that trust gets eroded away. But there can only be the disappointment and diminishing of said trust if it existed in the first place.
You seem to be applying the logic of "well high trust societies mean you just assume everyone is good" which is true, but you're ignoring the part where if they prove not to be then they get excluded and shunned from it. Believe it or not people do in fact want to be around and want to be represented by people who are plesant and not despicably evil.

You want a low trust society look at the jungles of Africa with their warlords who rape the natives and shoot up each other on the regular. Things like grocery stores and schools don't exist there.
Anonymous No.96535269 >>96535288
>>96535225
>Taking wider content into account
The bot broke or you got so mad that I wouldn't accept you literally making up quotes from thin air that you stopped talking properly lol
>prove
yeah I forgot where its proven all da elites and da jooz and whoever the bogeyman of the week is get proven to be pedophilic satanists and its not just schizophrenic coping
Anonymous No.96535288 >>96535295
>>96535269
I misspelled "context".
> Haha da jooz lol gotem
You wanna make fun of me being a schizo while you literally just accused me of being a bot.
Bots don't argue, dude. They just do what they're told.
Anonymous No.96535295 >>96535315
>>96535288
Which is why you're a dumbass.
>You wanna make fun of me being a schizo while you literally just accused me of being a bot.
It's called insulting you, anon, because I'm saying you're so stupid you talk and act like a bot. Seems that flew over your head.
>Bots don't argue
Ah so you're not only wrong about everything in politics but also wrong about everything outside of politics, gotcha LOL
Anonymous No.96535297
>>96529841
For the exact same reason every other toyesque/"geek" franchise has been exploding in popularity for the past 10 years. Because for the first time in human history there's an entire generation of 25-35 years old men wih no children and money to spend.

It'll take years of obvious repulsive gayass DEI propaganda to turn the ship around but it will eventually, just like it did for video games and other brands.
Anonymous No.96535315 >>96535368
>>96535295
> I totally was kidding about that accusation dude haha
> Didn't have anything to do with me being caught red handed being a hypocrite or anything
Sure
Anonymous No.96535368 >>96535373
>>96535315
>Anon is too retarded to understand what an insult is
Lol, lmao
Anonymous No.96535373 >>96535387
>>96535368
I understand it fine, I just don't care. Playground tier insults simply do not bother me. It's your inconsistency that pisses me off.
Anonymous No.96535387
>>96535373
>I'm not bothered at all!
>Screeches anon as he admits he's pissed off and replies again
I like how you lost the argument and just moved on to insisting that you're not mad.
Anonymous No.96536472
>>96534554
Some people are just odious and cannot put the ball down.
Anonymous No.96537724
>>96534750
Well, he also doesn't really play 40k so that's probably it. I think he's also a loudly part of 'doesn't want the plot to move at all' crowd so he hates Primaris on principle of that more than anything. Well, and he can't stand the fact that Big E might've just have been a huge asshole while traipsing around.
Anonymous No.96538070 >>96540327
>>96531019
>But this momentum won't last
pure copium. you've been saying this for about 10 years now when GW first started becoming supremely pozzed. 2 more weeks and GW will totally collapse for real this time?

>and they're continually sabotaging this
well considering this alleged sabotage also coincides with a massive increase in GWs earnings, the facts support the idea that it was in fact not sabotage but a welcome change that people wanted.
Anonymous No.96538091 >>96538171 >>96538176 >>96538320 >>96539124 >>96539159 >>96539519 >>96546285
Daily reminder that members of /awg/, /hwg/, /trench/, /btg/ and infinity general created a raid discord specifically for the purpose of demoralizing 40k fans and flooding /tg/ with anti-40k sentiment
Anonymous No.96538171
>>96538091
Wow, for real? Those guys sound pretty rad.
Anonymous No.96538176
>>96538091
Not sure what's more embarrassing, being butthurt enough to go to all that effort in the first place or going to all that effort and failing kek
Anonymous No.96538191
>>96508086 (OP)
Gamza is a full retard who spergs out and wipes his channel every ~6 months
Anonymous No.96538227 >>96539151
>>96533240
Christcuck but in the US that requires putting jews on a pedestal
Anonymous No.96538235
>>96508086 (OP)
Should I know who this faggot is?
Anonymous No.96538238 >>96538242
Arch can difficult to listen to, but on-point as far as I can tell. Not familiar enough to make a real judgement.

Gamza can be spazzy, but he's not wrong in his criticisms. Unfamiliar with anything involving zionism. (citation?)

Macca is solid. Only brainlets and consoomers would object to him.
Anonymous No.96538242 >>96538247
>>96538238
Why did you delete this?
>>96538221
Anonymous No.96538247
>>96538242
Typo and an omission. Why do you care?
Anonymous No.96538279
For me, it's Sword 'n' Steele
Anonymous No.96538320
>>96538091
Seriously doubt that anyone in /btg/ (outside botton, but he is a tard) would join such group. We just dont care about WH40K.
Anonymous No.96539048 >>96539418
>>96508086 (OP)
He's a homosexual
Anonymous No.96539124
>>96538091
What would be the purpose of this? To tank GW sales?
Anonymous No.96539136
>>96513578
This just sounds like "forever alone and bitter about it" talk
Anonymous No.96539151 >>96539969
>>96538227
It depends, there is a huge divide between christians who are redpilled on jews and zionist judeo-christians. The Israel and jewish lobby is very powerful especially in the US.
Anonymous No.96539159 >>96539166
>>96538091
All of those things are true and falseflagging won't stop us from shitting on GW gay woke nulore
Anonymous No.96539166
>>96539159
Very true
Anonymous No.96539418
>>96539048
This. I had a teacher like him once who was openly gay.
Anonymous No.96539462
>>96508216
why do you work for a furry, do you hate animals and like to see them getting raped?
Anonymous No.96539474 >>96539655
>>96509472
it's not uncommon in continental Europe to get thought an English-ish accent and spelling.
I also speak with an English accent because I was thought English with an English accent and I watched way to many British series as a child
Anonymous No.96539510
>>96533433
it's more like
>I'm part of demographic a that like x, if you make x we will by it
>you are now making xy in hopes of getting demographic b to buy it but demographic a doesn't like it and are less of them are buying it
>I make a video explaining why going for this strategy is risky and they are alienating their old loyal fanbase
>your employees told us to go fuck ourselves if we don't like xy and that they are now just going to make y
>I and most of demographic a have stopped buying said product in response, demographic b isn't buying it, I told you so
for every brand that manages to switch demographic or change it's band and retain it's old demographic there are half a dozen that fail
if you see something you like rolling the dice on this then that's something you wouldn't like aswel
Anonymous No.96539519
>>96538091
>purpose of demoralizing 40k fans and flooding /tg/ with anti-40k sentiment
Dunno GW themselfs seems to be doing that just fine.
Anonymous No.96539655
>>96539474
It's still odd since America has has world hegemony post WWII
Anonymous No.96539959
>>96512422
>Pogue engineer
But close
Anonymous No.96539969
>>96539151
>christians who are redpilled on jews
except jesus his apostles right?
Lol
Anonymous No.96539987 >>96539993 >>96540296
Is Arch really English? His accent sounds really forced.
Anonymous No.96539993
>>96539987
It's an affectation.
Anonymous No.96540296
>>96539987
He's Norwegian, most norfs have a much more neutral americanzied accent.
Anonymous No.96540311 >>96540543
He was right

(Also Baldermort and Brother Timmy too)
Anonymous No.96540327
>>96538070
>pure copium. you've been saying this for about 10 years now
GW did nearly go bankrupt at least once in the last decade, yes. The abomination that was 7th brought them to their knees.
> 2 more weeks and GW will totally collapse for real this time?
Imagine being so brainrotted that when someone says 'long-term' you think 2 fucking weeks. Imagine being unable to think of time spans except via political memes.
>well considering this alleged sabotage also coincides with a massive increase in GWs earnings,
Correlation does not imply causation. Warhammer hit the mainstream during COVID and they're still riding that high. It won't last. They're not the only company that got a huge boost from the lockdowns and all of them are now seeing those boosts dwindle away.
Anonymous No.96540409 >>96542675
>>96514257
Legitimately, I have never seen someone not Get Superman so badly as Shad. Like, holy fuck his stance on how Superman 'is', is hilariously retarded. Then again, the Friday Night Tights clique he hangs about with these days aren't much brighter, to say they're supposed to be major comic fans.

At least I can count on Geeks and Grifter's Tuesday night streams to be Funny in their retardation.
Anonymous No.96540543 >>96545610
>>96540311
This roid freak tried to peddle his body dysmorphia and drugs on his followers, he is such a loser retard
Anonymous No.96542675
>>96540409
>Shad doesn't get Superman
Lmao, and I thought him being a HEMA LARPer pretending to be a history expert was bad as it was.
Once again, "hack" is an understatement.
Anonymous No.96544284 >>96545525
Jannies are sleepin huh usually arch was an instant ban
Anonymous No.96545521 >>96545528
>>96533240
Americans literally rewrote Bible to worship state of Israel instead of our Lord
Anonymous No.96545525
>>96544284
He hasn't really been/tg/ relevant in a while. He spends most of his time talking politics or bitching about videogames
Anonymous No.96545528
>>96545521
They also worship Jesus more than God. It's like they took all that Jesus preached and took the entire wrong lessons from it.
Anonymous No.96545610 >>96545884
>>96540543
Is he actually on roids? What mediocre results.
Anonymous No.96545702
>>96508086 (OP)
right about what?
Anonymous No.96545704
>>96514147
the badab art for gee dubs? so you dont do insta?
Anonymous No.96545845
>>96508086 (OP)
What was he right about I could never get past his faggoty fake accent
Anonymous No.96545884
>>96545610
He is and he tried to sell peptides to his subscribers. He also has a hair transplant and is truly vanitymaxxing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRVD0KVtX_0&ab_channel=Majorkill
Anonymous No.96546104
>>96519290
Why are artists such fucking niggers?
Anonymous No.96546285
>>96538091
I keep seeing this list of "members" grow over time. Must get exhausting adding more and more people to this list. 40k has gotten shit. No need for a conspiracy.
Anonymous No.96546752 >>96547105
>Haven't thought about Arch in a while
>See this thread
>Check out what he's been up to on YouTube
>Did a video about fucking Cracker Barrel
How can someone stand being such a joke?
Anonymous No.96547105 >>96547130 >>96547159 >>96547260 >>96547960
>>96546752
Did he really make a video about fucking Cracker Barrel? Why are European "conservatives" so obsessed about American "issues"? They talk more about American shit than anything else.
Anonymous No.96547130
>>96547105
Arch became a grifter years ago.
Anonymous No.96547159 >>96547163 >>96547960
>>96547105
American cultural hegemony
Anonymous No.96547163
>>96547159
Submitting to it is a liberal idea.
Anonymous No.96547260
>>96547105
Yuros are obsessed with us, it's kinda off putting and pathetic.
Anonymous No.96547960
>>96547105
>>96547159
Bingo, judeo-american cultural hegemony post WWII