Thread 96510461

Why don't we have more urban settings set in periods of history like the Victorian era/Steampunk instead of millions of pseudo-medieval clones like Forgotten Realms?

>>96510461 (OP)
>Zoomers dont know about FUZION Steampunk
ayylmao

>>96510461 (OP)
Ecryme is pretty good

Steampunk isn't a genre and no one gives a fuck about it.

>>96510461 (OP)
GET YOUR ASS TO MARS

>>96510461 (OP)
Why don't you make the kinds of settings settings in periods of history you want, like what tabletop games are for, instead of crying online about what other people aren't doing for you?
Forgotten Realms sucks, yeah, but I don't have to deal with it, because I can just make the things I want.

Why don't we have more urban settings set in periods of history like the Victorian era/Steampunk
GURPS has you covered

>>96510461 (OP)
Vash the Stampede?

>>96510461 (OP)
Belle Époque from The Red Room really captures the feel of the Victorian era beyond the shores of Britannia and their Wretched Steampunk supplements slots in well.

>>96510461 (OP)
Why do you want to play a colonialism simulator, anon?

>>96511100
Already a GNS thread up m8
the catalog is your friend >>>/tg/catalog

>>96510580
Steampunk for GURPS is not a setting. Is more like a myriad of notes and suggestions to run a steampunk compaign but it really is fall flats for the American focus despite America being fairly irrelevant during the Victorian period. It also doesn't going in-deep about politics, geography or anything useful for worldbuilding. There's also a ridiculous section filled with machines. That said, the section about real historical characters is interesting.

>>96510558
Why are so many people on this board anti discussion? OP asked WHY it's not more popular, at no point did he cry that no one was doing it for him. God forbid someone asks a question about traditional games on /tg/

>>96511653
Every discussion we have takes away vital space away from discussing Warhammer chud.

>>96511309
Steampunk barely qualifies as a genre, and is more of an aesthetic moodboard instead. So having a game which is barely a setting seems like a perfect fit actually.

>>96511653
we continually prune the creatives and weirdos that would entertain conversation.
Now all we have is irony and shitposting.

>>96510774
>quivering maiden offers a sacrifice of champagne to a giant, demonic cat hoping to quell its thirst for blood for the time being
Write a campaign around this prompt set in 1880s France.

>>96512151
take your meds

>>96512151
Masturbate before posting

>>96511986
OP asked for an Steampunk/Victorian setting though, so I'm only pointing out that the GURPS book is not that. And what it does is very lacking. I think they have another supplement which is way better though, I think is called Screampunk or something like that. Very nice suggestions there for a 19th century based setting there with flavor, instead of random suggestions.

Most of the people who are interested in the time period do war gaming instead.

>>96512898
I've found that the actual case is that most Steampunkers prefer LARP while cosplaying to actual gaming.

>>96512151
I disregard the prompt and steal the plot to Bringing Up Baby.

The problem is that it is alt history and not a secondary setting.

>>96512958
wait until you realize all history is alt history

>>96510461 (OP)

Arcanum.

Jules Verne n shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbq6Wfh9fi4

>>96510558
No, the medium should bend to my will, you colossal faggot.

Largely because steampunk is almost 100% aesthetic and affect with almost 0% actual genre expectations.

What even is the expected flow of a steampunk story or steampunk setting? With cyberpunk it's pretty clear. High tech low life corpo bad, or necessary high tech police shutting down techno terrorists. Easy prompt to riff with. But with steampunk... what is it?

>>96514899
Heart of Darkness but with gears

Once, when I had a really long-running Pendragon campaign, you know what I missed the most? If the old inspiration well had run dry, being able to say "you've found a dungeon with phat lewt at the bottom and a bazillion goblins in the way - go nuts."
In other ways, I think it's being scared of pulling it off properly. Think of all the period dramas you've seen in that period, and trying to hit that tone. I'm already well aware that the pictures in my head aren't necessarily what the players actually get as it is.

>>96514899
Anbaric tech deplorable life aristos bad. Or noblesse oblige shutting down anarchist Dracula.

>>96514899
I believe we have the answer with Arcane. Class warfare with Magic and stuffs

>>96514899
>Largely because steampunk is almost 100% aesthetic and affect with almost 0% actual genre expectations.
It is hilarious when somebody is so confidently incorrect. Steampunk started as a pulpy literary genre with books like Anubis Gates and The Difference Engine. Steampunk as an aesthetic/cosplay came a few decades later.

>>96514899
>But with steampunk... what is it?
Honestly, you can run most cyberpunk plots not centered on transhumanism in steampunk. Victorian industrialization is effectively "high tech low life" of its own era if you look at the massive wealth and quality of life disparity between classes and the monstrous sacrifices made for the sake of the industrial revolution.

>>96514931
Michael Douglas but in a Tophat (with gears)

>>96516859
Steampunk didn't develop until the mid 2000s. Yes: it's based on novels from the 80s. No: it wasn't a thing in the 80s or 90s. The novels it evolved out of were derisively labeled "steampunk" as a joke about how silly they are. The notion of steampunk as a genre didn't evolve until the aesthetic of the mid 00s. And when it arrived, it did so as a fashion and art trend.

>>96511653
>anti discussion
The popularity of a thing isn't a particularly engaging discussion to begin with. Add the fact that you can make pretty much anything you want for tabletop games, and it's a literal nothing.
It's about as interesting as asking why more books aren't printed on dark pages with white text.
You don't need to sit around and wonder why something you like isn't popular in this niche medium we enjoy, you can just make what you like.

>>96517834
tl;dr tourists cant point to games in the genre, they can only post like newfags that dont game

>>96517723
It's true that most people who are aware of steampunk are primarily interested in the cogfop side of things, or at best watched Wild Wild West or played Dark Cloud, but it's senseless to just dismiss William Gibson et al from the genre that he created. Part of the role that /tg/ can play is to allow surface aesthetics to be the gateway into the proper substance of the genre.

>>96510461 (OP)
Arcanum is really the best answer, but if you're looking for American steampunk west, there's good support for it in Deadlands.

>>96517950
The genre is about the aesthetic. It's nonsense to avoid admitting that fact when called out on it because "well the books that inspired it were written in the 80s!" Ok, and the period that inspired it was in the 1880s. That doesn't make it 130 years old.

>>96517723
>The novels it evolved out of were derisively labeled "steampunk"
Something can exist before it gets labelled. The first thing of anything will never be "labelled" because they're the experimental stuff. BTW, Steampunk was already clearly defined before the 2000s with stuff like His Dark Materials existing before that and being popular enough to warrant a full hollywood movie. Get your akshuaslly science outta here.

>>96510461 (OP)
>Steampunk
IT'S SHIT

>>96517834
>>96517853
And who appointed you as the arbiter of what is interesting to discuss?

>>96510461 (OP)
Because, instead of playing the ones around, fans keep wasting their time with gay threads, or glueing cogs and goggles to tophats to see if they can score fat chicks in corsets.

>>96510461 (OP)

There is the game Castle Falkenstein from 1994 that predates the modern steampunk trends where you get all the things that make Steampunk steampunk without the obnoxiousness.

Terrible rule engine but wonderful world building and worth the investment to just read.

>>96510461 (OP)
The well got very poisoned by cosplayers. It's just not as easy to resuscitate the genre compared to cyberpunk. They both tend towards similar themes, but cyberpunk can re-adapt its aesthetic to match the times and maintain relevance, while steampunk is more locked in.

>>96517723
>>96518431
You are such a retarded faggot zoomer. The books from the 80s/90s (and the ones from earlier which inspire those books) define the genre. Victorian fashion. Grimy late 19th century cities. Fantastic absurd machines. Extreme class divides. Magick/Occultism. Pulpy adventures with crazy Jules Verne technology. The art and fashion movement is its own spinoff of the literature, but from an rpg perspective, the lit is more relevant.

>>96518633
I did. I'm sorry, I really regret it, but there's no legal mechanism for me to remove someone once they've been appointed.

>>96510461 (OP)
Unironically, I think Magical Industrial Revolution is the best steampunk setting I've seen. It also has a REALLY good crafting system.

>>96519312
Skerples stole so much content from /osrg/ to write that book that his name became a verb.

>>96519343
Oh, yeah, I bet that he did. He probably broke into your house and rearranged all the furniture too.

>>96510461 (OP)
steampunk is gay and for faggot redditors

Frontiers are more interesting than cities.

>>96519602
It's more like the opposite: cities are so dense with interesting things that they are difficult to gamify.

>>96516804
but league is filled with magitech and not steamtech

>>96510461 (OP)
We have a worldbuilding general for questions like this

>>96512928
Including the dinosaur skeleton?

>>96510461 (OP)
There's 'The Kerebos Club', I think.