Thread 96527238

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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What is your favorite art that is stuck on a card frame you hate?

gay Ormacar

>>96527202
you use the tokens of the most phallic animal/creature in existence as leverage for the gay drama, or as some say "politics", you indulge in

>>96527268
Minor spelling mistake in the other thread.
I'm calling you out.

>>96527273
i did it again because of the nu-thread and corrected it while i was at it :(

>>96527253
Man, if only. I have a deep set distaste for proxying so I just can't bring myself to do it.
>>96527200
>he memorized the 4 commanders I have built
you sneaky bitch

>>96527288
>this creature is an enchantement because it has partial galaxy camo
hate that MtG trope
beautiful frame though

https://moxfield.com/decks/nvASIG6kWEi3w25Y3J9Teg

Burakos graveyard deck.

I cant believe I somehow failed to slot Forsaken Miner, Bloodsoaked Champion and Reassembling Skeleton in this list. Not to mention Entomb, Flawless Maneuver, Lightstall Inquisitor.

And not to mention fucking Revel in Riches, and a dozen other possible synergies that fit the theme or removals.
I know this deck is a value pile but Ive enjoyed it a lot and Im super hype to try this reanimator sub theme, I think it's going to pop off.

Pic rel is the nuttiest nut for sure

>>96527307
The concept is that these snakes are spawned from a god and thusly divine. Unless you're complaining about their design for being plain, which is a fair point.

https://scryfall.com/sets/slx

When will WOTC release another of those UB cards in their UW counterpart?

>>96527411
UW is dead anon.

>>96527436
Why?

>>96527453
Because they don't want to make a distinction with UB and normal sets anymore, same reason why it doesn't have the triangle at the bottom anymore.

>>96527459
That's really stupid

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

Am I the only one that just looks at a seller's commander set listings on cardmarket and buys every cheap card that looks interesting? I feel like it's my best way to get a big collection of budget commander playables

>>96527668
No because I already have most shit. I buy maybe like 20 new cards per year.

>>96527668
i sometimes stroll through some of the sellers listings, its almost like looking through a trade binder.

I also heavily recommend price checking your Shopping Wizard Results. Maybe they tweaked it a bit, but they are sleazy and try to sneak in expensive cards from bigger sellers sometimes ~ they dont always Consider the 1,25€ shipping cost either.
In one instance i knocked 20 Bucks off of a 80€ order because these fucks thought they are slick

/edhg/ I attack you with a 2/3 ape that looks like Harambe

>>96527253
Why are you STILL posting this boring garbage. Its not an interesting card. If you wanna talk about non legendary artifacts just do so.

>>96527918
damn I scoop

>>96527918
skrrraaaaah
shot the pedo

>>96527411
Lara Croft will probably get something down the line, but Deadpool and Sonic were distributed to stores as well as via Secret Lair, and Marvel they've all-but-confirmed will be in the actual Marvel set(s) in some way. The promise wasn't to make it UW, it was to make the cards accessible outside of Secret Lair.

My first custom mat got here!
I'm quite happy with how it turned out.

>>96527476
Dr Whodunnit

>>96528076
would hotglue that smug face

>>96528076
So how long have you been on HRT?

>>96528076
Pretty good, where did you go for it? How much did you pay?

Time to report on my LGS experience yesterday as well. 3 games, went 1-2

Game 1:
>Teval
>Golbez (me)
>Odric
>Brago
W: Teval
Man combo'd off one turn before me, and had I not been greedy and recurred Urza with Golbez and instead my Apocalypse Demon, I would've drained him enough that he couldn't dig through his deck as much as he wanted. Brago scooped on turn 5 because he ended up with 2 lands and never drew another, so it was mainly a 3-way.

Game 2:
>Tidus (me)
>Brago
>Teval
>Orvar
W: Tidus
Kutzil was the star of the show on this one, shutting out combat tricks or interaction, drawing me a ton of cards and just being an overall menace. Ouroboroid, Pollywog Prodigy, and O'aka drew most of the removal, keeping Kutzil safe. Akroma's Will with 4 creatures was enough to kill everyone.

Game 3:
>Tidus (me)
>Elminster
>Valgavoth
>Smeagol
W: Valgavoth
Only really notable thing about this game other than me effectively keeping Elminster off the board with big bodies was Elminster killing me using Valgavoth's Spiteful Visions by way of Cephalid Coliseum

Withstand
G1
Instant
Split Second
Choose a spell or ability. Replace all instances of the word 'each' or 'all' with 'target'.

>>96528200
>Pretty good, where did you go for it? How much did you pay?
I got it from hypemat, it cost 35€ with the stitched edges but i had a discount code so it was a bit below 30.
Honestly worth the money imo, my shitty camera doesn't convey it well but the print quality and materials are super nice.

>>96528209
Hm, I may have to get one sometime. Easy to put in any image you want? I may want to commission someone or see if I can find an image I want for it.

>make copies of picrel
>storm player seething

>>96528216
>still trying to shill this mid card
lmao

>>96528215
Yeah it's very easy. You just upload the image you want and drag it around or crop it in their editor so it fits the mat the way you'd like.
I'd recommend getting an image in a very high resolution like at least 4k

>>96528216
>UBsloppa is retarded
pottery.
Try checking out what Storm does.

I like this card, that's all I wanted to say

>>96528223
Sounds good to me, thanks again man, I appreciate it
>>96528216
I actually could've really used this last night to shut down a Gravecrawler combo, would've been nice even with 1 trigger to double the cost.

>>96528239
I also like this card

>another sol ring/arcane signet/command tower secret lair
>back to back bonus sheet reprints with the top 20 list of commanders by edhrec
we've reached the bottom of the barrel haven't we?

>>96528292
>we've reached the bottom of the barrel haven't we?
wait until you hear about wotc's newest project, "digging out a new sub-basement for the barrel"

>>96528220
>>96528238
>retard take: the posts

Their free counterspells cost one more, their cantrips cost one more, jeska's cost one more.. they can't squeeze in combos or get a meaningful storm count. What's the point in this retardation? I can understand the autistic faggot constantly whining and shitting up the thread about ub as usual.

>>96528284
im not even a FF fan but i kinda fuck with the Izzet Spell slinger stuff in this set. Building Tellah rn and i might as well put him in to, since the other legends also have the same threshholds

>>96528318
>making copies
>one more
Those are rookie numbers anon

>>96528238
How you gunna storm off when all your spells cost 3 more?
>>96528220
Not even me but it is a fantastic card. One sided sphere of resistance or spot disruption. On a appropriately statted body

>>96528076
S M U G
M
U
G

>>96528305
You mean the Marvel set?

>>96528320
The izzet stuff was the best archetype in FIN draft, so it's fun to basically be able to play a whole deck of it.

>>96528292
>bonus sheet reprints with the top 20 list of commanders by edhrec
Edgar Markov as Kiss-Shot when? I'll pay hundreds.

Wild Mass Guessing RR
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard a card.
Each other player discards two cards and each player draws two cards.

>half of my commander decks are now just UB waifu cards
Damn why did they have to make their commanders so SEXO...

>>96528624
Erm... that's a minor.

>>96528637
Good.

When playing against cards like Mystic Remora and Smothering Tithe, do you announce when you're paying or not? Or is the controller supposed to announce the trigers and ask each time?

Can I say "I'm not paying unless you ask, and If you don't ask you missed the trigger"?

Is it fair/legal if I (at an appropriate pace) play my cards; do not announce if I pay or not; am not prompted to pay; and when asked "oh, did you pay", I tell them "too bad, you missed the triggers"?

>>96528624
>ub takes over
>fat nigger queens suddenly disappear
>normal looking women are back
>showing some skin allowed again
for me ub has been a total win.

>>96528624
Erm... that's a legal adult but she's physically stunted and so below the height of consent.

>>96528648
>coal burning whore

>>96528655
>I literally cannot look at an attractive white woman without thinking about BLACKED
this is a you problem, nonny

>>96528668
I saw the spiderverse movie she literally gets nigged

>>96528655
>implying I know anything about these characters

>>96528680
>NOOOO AAAAAAAAAA ATTRACTIVE WHITE WOMAN BLACK BLACK BLACK
this is you, i see a hot bitch who I wanna spunk on.

>>96528650
Lost

>>96528704
>woman

>>96528647
Your opponents have to ask.

>>96528704
>on not in
Very telling.

Is this still accurate?

>>96528742
Everyone is that guy now

>>96528742
No, everything but the commander table is empty at your LGS.

>>96528742
no the first 3 tables should be empty and you can easily replace "i make new rat" with "i do thing i draw card"

>>96528736
Facials are based
>>96528729
oh... oh no...

I think i hate waifukeks much more than any UB consumer, i'm impressed for this thought

My LGS doesn't do drafts at all anymore it's kinda sad.

darn, this idiot has the third worst haircut I've seen on a card, but that seems interesting.

>>96528820
Isn't that one of the "nonbinary" characters lol

>>96528820
It is indeed a fun deck that can use a lot of fun cards

>>96528820
My only experience with this deck was a guy at my LGS using it against my Knight deck (at the time) and playing Earnest Fellowship and turning his entire deck off. It was amazing.

Some here seem to know Bloodborne. I feel like this one is lacking something. I am especially unsatisfied with the title.. Any suggestions?

>>96528820
it is indeed an annoying deck that can use a lot of oppressive cards

>>96528680
Main Spider-Gwen has some teasing with Miles (which is weird because in the comics she's in college and he's like 17), her universe's Peter (who became the Lizard and died), Harry (who thinks Spider-Gwen is evil but loves real Gwen until he learns who she is) and Mary Jane (which was a tease for a while before they out and out confirmed, yeah, this MJ was into Gwen) and a few others, but she's never actually really gotten into any actual relationships in the comics. It's pretty common for somebody to be into her and for her to just be completely oblivious.

>>96528825
>facial hair
>male body proportions
>obviously a dude
I've seen this called "enbycoping"

>be 36
>have heart issues
>go to doctor
>sent home with a personal EKG monitor
Well..... Im dying lads. Decks for this feel?

>>96528867
Comics are so fucking stupid holy shit.

>>96528886
Yep.
Want another stupid thing? After Superior Spider-Man, Otto 'died' and let Peter have his body back, except a back-up of his mind was kept in Living Brain (this was established, so that's at least fair). That back-up then went into a CLONE Peter Parker's body (there's a lot of them going around don't worry about it) and he tried to be a proper hero for a while before... An alternate universe's Norman Osborn, who was a Spider-Man, ended up developing a grudge against him, and to deal with that, Otto made a deal with Mephisto which gave him his old body back and made him forget most of the Superior Spider-Man stuff, except the stuff that didn't affect his characterisation, unless it was just knowledge of Peter's identity as Spider-Man, that he definitely forgot. Probably.
I dunno if it's just because Spidey's so popular but his comics seem to have a higher percentage of insane stupid bullshit.

>>96528896
>this type of shit is not even unrelated anymore
>UB: lorefaggotry

>>96528318
>my board is set up to make multiple copies of a permanent
>my storming opponent has made no progress in set up
>I HAVE IT
>THEY DO NOT
Slopper and nogames? Rough life

jesus fucking christ I hate all of these dogshit online card sellers. thank you CardKingdom for not sending me Hostage Taker, Library of Leng, Massacre Wurm, Niv-Mizzet, Parun and Psychosis Crawler and swapping in counterspell. izzit signet, fblthp the lost and solemn simulacrum instead. niggardly bastards, guess I'm not using the kefka deck this weekend

>>96528976
Okay but do you pay the extra 3? Its t4 btw

>have a copy of Realms Uncharted
>can't decide which of my two land-themed decks to put it in
how do you resolve dilemmas like this

>>96529079
move it from one sleeve to the other depending on which deck I'm playing
Or get uncle chang to print me a proxy

>>96529030
What's the set up for the W player? I would love something that can make 3 copies of a permanent on T4

>>96529030
Mind telling me how you have 3 copies of Tax Taker on turn 4? Mono white only

>>96528886
There's a reason the American capeshit comics industry has completely collapsed

>>96528820
>>96528825
He's a troon. I refuse to use any cards with art of him or flavor text mentioning him.

>>96529268
Me with black characters

>>96529286
I wish that were me, but Sevinne's is too powerful...

>>96529323
You should make a proxy that's exactly the same except white and blond

>>96529109
>>96529126
>copies
Its in my flicker deck which is much easier to come by and has the same effect ^.^ did you pay your taxes though? T4 BTW unlikely you have 3 extra mana to spare...

>>96529422
>>96528216
flickering is cool, but where did the copies come from?

>>96529439
>>96528220
>>96528453
Probably from the original anons deck I've been quite clear this entire time to not be him :) pay the +3?

Is this the most fun deck I can build that involves smacking people with manlands?

https://moxfield.com/decks/N3P4_4F27UaP8Lq266ivJQ

thoughts on this deck?

This deck makes people so fucking angry.
https://archidekt.com/decks/13429111/kefka_max

I just don't think it's that strong? I spent 9 mana (on my upkeep) using counterspell, offer, return the favor and sink into stupor protecting kefka from removal and was told my deck is too powerful. Is it that powerful?

>>96529574
You post your pubstomp deck all the time anon no one cares about your larps

>>96529548
It's super creature heavy, and with such a high cmc average, you might not be able to cast your commander on curve. I'd also recommend more discard synergy, such as geth's grimoire or blood chief ascension instead of library of leng.

ITS UP!!!

>>96529587
>larp
>pubstomp

I've powered it down so much, I just don't see how it's 'overpowered' or pubstompy, this feels like it should be a bracket 3? I had a guy crash out and rage scoop because of offer + counterspell

https://moxfield.com/decks/Gftl8k-zh0-Ra8V-3N5sMQ
thoughts?

>>96529600
The unironic answer anon is that your commander choice promotes an extremely unfun play pattern regardless of how "powered down" it is.

>>96529603
see, this is a far more powerful version of my deck, actually optimized and synergistic with top of power scale cards.

Can somebody look over this list for me? It's supposed to be budget
https://moxfield.com/decks/A2yK_qr1TU2X4l6KW4sFsw

>>96529603
are you planning to compete in CEDH

>>96529457
Why am I paying 3?

>>96529616
cuz tax collector has entered 3 times

>>96529422
You shot your Ephemerate, Cloudshift, and Flicker of Fate to hose one turn? And now the other 2 players also know you're a smug punchable chode? Ok it's T5 now get Grapeshot to death.

>>96529606
yeah, I'm thinking of making a yoshi art proxy of parnesse as kefka

>>96529625
so you delayed me for 1 turn, at the cost of 3 cards and your own turn? thats pretty neat, I guess.

>>96529588
what should I include? more mana rocks and counterspells? this is my first attempt playing grixis outside of the failbaddon precon

>>96529632
Ephemerate comes back anon! You lost an entire turn cycle ephemerate comes back and oopsies +1 again already better hope there's nothing else up my sleeve

>>96529686
>he doesn't know tax collectors toughness nor what Storm does still
Oh no, this retard still thinks he's in the game, just humor him guys, lest he have a B F

>>96529670
you could cut callous bloodmage or a few other big bombs and replace them with dark ritual, necromancy, animate dead, or dread return.

virtue of knowledge and persistence are inflexible, and you can't recur them easily. changing out with liliana's, or adding more counterspells since you only have 2.

>>96529701
You are welcome to explain the line anon :) remember +2 on everything cause I did infact have it already

>>96529717
Are you badly trolling, or pretending you're the only person who had 2 turns before turn three? lol

>>96529757
this whole thing is dumb, but the other guy did say "it's turn 5, gutshot." it's not the turn 3 question anymore.

>>96529537
Not even close anon

Fuck it I'm putting Valakut in my Erinis deck. How many mountains do I need to make this not a retarded idea
>>96529869
>dies to removal
I want my commander to BE the land

>>96529949
Oh then heres your landmander bro

>>96529537
>except
>and
>and
>and
too many words, anything easy to pick

>>96529978
this should cost 0 fact

>>96528729
Ohnonono

>>96528742
Brackets turned everyone into that guy

>>96529757
Im trolling very well as I am in the right and getting your panties in a twist because you know im right. Having all your spells cost more is very oppressive especially if it can be done early.

does nine finger keen's effect count as card draw, more specifically when you have 9 gates and put all 9 cards in your hand?

>>96530165
According to game rules no, put into hand is not draw.

>>96530165
unless it specifically says draw it is not considered draw

>>96529949
Not as many as you think if you use typed nonbasics.

>>96528742
True

>>96528655
>implying
Sorry, Shameik, but you struck out with Gwen LOL.

>>96530115
Before Brackets:
Its a seven, haha... wait why are you guys packing up?
After Brackets:
It's a three haha... wait why are you guys packing up?

The only difference now is that nobody needs a stupid little webpage to calculate for them how retarded their deck is, so when you angle-shoot to pubstomp the poor little urchins unworthy of your brilliant deckbuilding prowess (your netdecked cEDH list) they can tell you to fuck off, because knowing how powerful your deck is is YOUR job.

>>96528981
how tf did they even fuck up the order that bad?

>>96528742
Vintage should be cobwebs and skeletons
Modern should be on fire with raped and dead bodies scattered around
Standard should be on fire with a smiling Maro in the background with that flourishing quote underneath him
The containment zone is still mostly the same but you could change the quotes to
>DO THING DRAW CARD
>but this is bracket 2... my spiderman tribal deck is no match for this...

>>96530273
it was a 100 card order and I wasn't gonna be shocked if it was missing a single card or something but not this many. they were all the big key pieces too

TCGPlayer does the same shit too, I ordered some $4 in FF cards in mid June and they showed up the last week of July. They had already given me a $5 credit in the process of them being missing. Also had two other orders missing cards but they just immediately credit you for the missing cards and round up. The lack of tracking is what kills me with TCGPlayer because sometimes it takes like 3 weeks for shit to show up and to have it take that long and still having stuff missing and having to order it and wait again is such a pain in the ass

>>96529949
Problem officer?

>>96530223
>Have to say draw to count as draw
>have to say target to count as targeted
>do not have to say lifegain/lifeloss on all effects that do this

>>96530327
What are they paying you? You're way too good at being a fucking idiot to be doing it for free.

>>96530327
Tell me retard kun, when I return a card from my graveyard to my hand, did I draw it? What about from exile? When someone bounces my creature, did I draw a creature off of the battlefield?

Drawing is, strictly, the process of taking a card from the top of your deck and putting it in your hand. Some cards may alter the process, but drawing remains an important and distinct process as a number of other cards have effects when cards are drawn.

When a card calls on you to look at or reveal a number of cards off the top of your deck and asks you to select one to place it in your hand, it is a search effect with limited depth, rather than tutors that search your whole deck.

If the card does not tell you to 'draw' it off of your deck, it was not drawn.

Regarding life: Life either is incremented, decremented or stays the same; there is no ambiguity in the interaction except when the matter of 'damage' is applied. Being hit by an opponent's creature for combat damage is loss of life, but paying a life cost is not damage. Effects that cause an opponent to lose life may or may not be damage depending on whether or not the card 'deals damage'.

Reading the card, reads the card. Start there or else you will be far too much an imbecile to bother teaching further.

You have 5 fingers
>What about this
That is a thumb
>Is this a thumb
No
>What about this? Or this?
No
>WELL WHY NOT
>IT'S ALL THE SAME ANYWAYS

>Cards like Scroll Rack used to not say "draw" as a drawback so you couldn't combo them with cards like Alhammaret's Archive
>Now they don't say "draw" as an upside to get around Orcish Bowmasters and Sheoldred
I hate this timeline.

>>96530382
>>96530336
You both seem to have literally no idea what I amksaying and also seem to think I'm some guy you are mad at. I am literally just pointing out the inconsistency of the game where something like "choose a creature" gets around hexproof and such but "exchange life totals" counts as lifegain despite not having the word there.

In some situations the word must be there. In others, it doesn't. The inconsistency was simply being pointed out. I doubt you can comprehend my post, though.

>>96530418
>scroll rack is worded the way it is because of a card printed 18 years later

>>96530444
Playing the long game

>>96530165
blackgreenbluepill me on keene

>>96530420
>lifegain despite not having the word there
...anon, if your life total goes from 20 to 40, regardless of why.... did you gain life? are you stupid?

>>96530420
You're right anon, you're simply too brilliant for our feeble intellects.

In the future feel free to just read the card instead. I'm sure you'll get it.

>>96530455
no, it just became a different numer
numbers are a concept, anyways

>>96530472
This is what I meant, you shouldn't be doing this for free. You're way too good at being fucking retarded.

>>96528624
>>96528648
It triggers me that I can't use these qt3.14s together in a deck unless I go full color-whore.
On that note, is the Painbow precon any good as a starting point for 5c stuff? I saw it gathering dust at a local store at $45.

>2025
>I am forgotten

>>96530452
idk anon I'm a retard I just look up all gate cards and put them in the deck with tons of mana ramp and landfall

>>96530547
I'm still playing it

>>96530552
https://moxfield.com/decks/mWKv7igWTUq3zz7CDB9GNw
here is the deck, so you can see how truly trash I am

I'm excited to Tifastomp people at my LGS tonight. What deck will you be running game, anon?

>>96530556
you and nobody else it seems. has been THE green card draw staple. now even the most sweaty pub stompers dont sleeve it up in my area.

Does this effect trigger twice if one opponent is hit by 2 creatures, one of which has first strike?

Double strike definitely causes 2 triggers right?

>>96530418
Ultimately, we just need meta-game hate.

>Abilities can't trigger

>static abilities that effect one or more permanents or players must now declare a single target instead.

>If a source an opponent controls would cause you to pay mana, instead, that players loses that much life.

>If an ability would trigger 3 or more times in a turn, or the same spell would be copied or casted 3 or more times in a turn, or if a card would enter the battlefield 3 or more times in a turn, that player loses 5 life instead.

>For each permanent that didn't untap during your untap step due to a source an opponent controls, you may exile that many permanents that player controls.

>Each player loses X life, where X is the number of abilities or spells each player has on the stack. End the turn.

>Commander damage and poison counters cannot cause a player to lose the game.

>>96530547
>>96530574
Quite frankly it's too slow even for bracket 2 these days- the green phyrexian arena.

>>96530578
>>96530574
Agreed. I had it in my Asmira deck for the longest time and even that with its few sources of lifegain, man 8 life to draw 2 extra cards is absurd. Really only useful in cedh but even then you can just get more cards for the rate, without the loss of life, that turn.

>>96529654
He delayed 3 people for 1 turn, which is an even rate and gets better with blink effects like conjurer's closet or teleportation circle

>>96530575
Pay attention to the grouping.

(Any number of Creatures)*players being dealt combat damage.

First strike damage phase (double strike) would trigger first. If you hit 3 players with 3 creatures with double strike, you would get 6 triggers. If you attacked a player with 1 million creatures without double strike, you would get 1 trigger.

>>96530577
>retarded
>retarded
>retarded
>retarded
>incredibly retarded
>good idea
>retarded
Objective breakdown.

>>96530547
> lose 4 lives

>>96530577
>>For each permanent that didn't untap during your untap step due to a source an opponent controls, you may exile that many permanents that player controls.
i can tell somebody lost to orb or stasis

>>96530577
>>96530592
W
'the game?'
Instant
Split second
Until end of turn, if a player would win the game, instead that player loses the game

>>96530592
We need trigger hate. It stops combo players AND battlecruiser players. Also, whatever that effect exists on, it can be removed. so skill issue.

>>96530602
I aimed for every win con I could think of

Can someone tell me how pic related works?
Someone recently told me that it would be too powerful if you got to discard and draw every time you cast an instant or sorcery so actually you only get to discard and draw once, and then you get the damage trigger instead and so on.
But I think he's completely full of shit. It says "If this is the second time this ability has resolved" so presumably it means if you discard and draw without the trigger being countered you also do the damage etc

Is there anywhere that sells bulk full art foil basic lands? I need a bunch for various decks so they can be 100% pringles.

>>96530573
I am determined to pull this off using an upgraded Kilo, Apogee Mind precon tonight. One day it will happen. I'm still working on upgrading the Gonti theft deck, but I will bring it anyway to try and steal combo pieces. Hope you have fun with Tifastomping!

>>96530648
This is my proliferate deck, it used to be helmed by the mind skinner but people got asshurt. I've got several sneaky wins off of millennial calendar

https://moxfield.com/decks/IY_5a89qoESdZjt_-DzcCA

>>96530642
Read it out. That triggers every time. Then, if it's the 2nd/3rd time, different effects occur in addition to the draw/discard.

>>96530642
You always discard and draw, and you also get the stated effects on the second and third instance of discarding and drawing.

>>96530666
>>96530680
Right, that's the way I always thought it worked, and that's the way other people in my pods had always agreed it worked- but it was just this guy insisting that's too powerful and I didn't have the confidence to argue

>>96530690
He's wrong, and also stupid.

>>96530573
i will be turbo storming on turn 4
may the better player win

>>96530574
I also use it

>>96530573
Attacky me and no free card for you :)

>>96530714
>4cmc commander
dog you're gonna die before you get to cast him

>>96530722
No.

>>96530692
Danke

>>96530722
>he thinks 4cmc is bad
Meanwhile all my Sliver commanders want WUBRG.

What's a good monoblack commander?

>>96530742
Sheoldred
> Draw card, do thing

>>96528820
That outfit looks like something from New Capenna, why is Niko wearing that? It's got that weird style of breastplate thing half the people there had. Has he ever even been to Capenna? The other characters all either wore stuff from their home plane or dressed up with Duskmourn stuff.

>>96530742
Zul Ashur is fun if you like zombies. She doesn't do anything amazing but she is good zombie support and a deck can still function if she gets removed.

>>96530752
Ah yes, my favorite bullshit machine.
>deck is nothing but draw cards, discard cards
>TOR is laughably stupid
>vamp, demon, seal to fetch everything you need
>throw in some shit like commander's plate, mithril chain, whatever to cover Sheoldred's ass

uhhh hold on, is that a game changer, bro?

Just got back from the shop. Happy to announce that over a decade later Narset still is making people scoop

>>96530648
I win with this in gogo

>>96530788
sorry, was this a bracket 2 game?

>>96530788
>>96530808
you two have been doing this bit every time someone plays a card, it was old 20 minutes ago.

>>96530788
No.

>>96530788
The only people who cry about game changers are poorfags or people who won't pay Chang $3.

>>96530820
Hmm... yeds... all permanents have been exiled, and all our hands and graveyards are empty, and our life has been reduced to 1
however, this has not changed the game at all, you are correct.

>>96530843
>proxying
suicide. now.

I almost pulled this banger out today with one life

>>96530863
I'm sorry, did not using official cardboard upset you?

>>96530869
Yes. Please try to not make the format even less serious than it already is

>>96530843
or maybe people that realize Rhystic/TOR on 3 is basically game over and it's not particularly interesting seeing play patterns warp around finding them.

>>96530420
I agree somewhat. There are a lot of rules that aren't 100% clear without reading the rulebook. A lot of people will tell you "of course you do X", but each of them had to look up a lot of shit themselves because they got confused about interactions and mechanics.
a good example is how lifelink works against indestructible targets.

>>96530849
They don't put it on GC because it is automatically bracket 4 for being MLD.
Oddly, they do put Sway of the stars on the list despite also being MLD.

>>96530926
People are going to be proxying the arena versions of spooder-mon and you'll deal with it.

What's the general structure of a commander deck?

>>96530950
Thats an ethical proxy

>>96531015
How do you feel about anime proxies of UB cards

>>96531013
99 cards in the deck plus 1 card that is your commander.

>>96530742
this guy for sure

Is Jegantha a good 5-color commander? Going from 5 to 10 mana sounds pretty sweet

>>96531013
98 cards in the deck plus 2 cards that are your commanders.

>>96531149
This guy's text is too much work. The dethrone Marchesa mogs on him.

>>96531063
Not him, but I find the Eldraine anime cards are pretty neat. I wish they weren't so bullshit rare though.
>tfw a collector box of WOE/WOT goes for $1200
>tfw confetti foil Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study go for like $800 each

>>96531250
>Marchesa
>monoblack

>>96531250
He makes interesting build limitations.

Also Marchesa is not mono black.

>>96531013
96 cards plus 1 commander because literally nobody is ever going to check

>>96531338
This is a guaranteed way to be struck by sleep paralysis.

>>96531338
Hey anon, did you lose some cards your deck looks a little short.

>>96531349
Sir, I can reliably take 7 off the top in one movement without counting and even I don't think I could notice a 99 card deck being 3 short

>That one guy where every card in his deck is a proxy depicting gay dragon sex
I find it weird how every LGS has someone like this.

>That one guy who goes turn 1 utopia sprawl 3 games in a row
hmmm....

>>96531013
TSA agent looking fiiiiiine

>>96531381
Proxy?

I miss the Mirrodin up to 2015 borders, bros. Why did they have to go and make the bottom lopsideded? I can understand the black part on the bottom being easier to read.

He cute

>>96531437
What do you even call this frame?

>>96531395
There's someone in Elk's server who opened Manabond with 7 lands then topdecked a draw engine 3 games in a row.

>>96531460
>ancient tomb gets a reprint in EOE
>pray this will reduce the price
>it does absolutely nothing
What would they have to do to make tomb a $10 card? Flood the market?

>>96531467
>What would they have to do to make tomb a $10 card?
Ban it in commander

>>96531470
Sol ring is only $1 despite being THE commander card.

>>96531467
Reprint in a Commander Precon or reprint in Uncommon/Rare slot in a in universe standard legal set.

>refuses to reprint rat colony/relentless in anything but bonus sheets, SLDs, or premium shit like mystery boosters
LET
ME
MAKE
NEW
RAT

>>96531467
Maybe not print it at mythic on a bonus sheet fucking retard?

>96524886

retro proxy guy here, did Entomb today.
Vivi files are ready to print test, gonna do it on Monday.

>>96531440
kino

>>96531543
do you upload them somewhere?

>>96531550
not yet, but im thinking about it once i have some more. The main goal is to print and try to sell some copies from my instagram page, but im up to uploading the files for those who want to print themselves too.

heres the Vivi that ive meant to quote on my last post

>>96531492
>SLD
When has SLD ever printed a big value card? The best I can recall is consecrated sphinx.

>>96531543
>trasures
was that intentional?

>>96531620
nope and i've just fixed it lmao, thanks for pointing out

>>96530723
If that deck is behind Tifa in turn order and doesn't manage to counter her it's nearly 100% going to die before the commander comes out. Pretty much the shining example of the kind of slow durdle deck Tifa rapes.

>>96530946
>a good example is how lifelink works against indestructible targets.
What's the issue here? Indestructible isn't invincible. It means it doesn't get destroyed, not that it doesn't take damage..

>>96531338
I bought a pack of 100 Ultrapro FF sleeves, not only are they dogshit to shuffle it only came with 99, effectively making it useless

>people are having to justify liking SOME UB cards at the LGS
Feels good bros. Even the normies are waking up. Consooming the slop is no longer the default, instead they're justifying likely 1 or 2 particular prints of UB cards by clarifying that they still think UB is bad

>>96531661
Weird. Usually you get 101 or 102. But you can always put the commander in another sleeve. I know a lot of people who do that because they say it's to stop them shuffling it into the deck.
Personally I prefer commander to have the same sleeve as the deck in case they ever get separated and I forget which deck its for

>xhe uses the same sleeve for xim's deck and commander
ngmi

>>96531467
Print it as a normal rare in a basic set

>>96531685
>>96531672
But what if I wanted to shuffle it into my deck

>>96531636
This. Tifa is the best way to teach noobs the lesson of running interaction and not durdling.

>>96531691
your commander's location in your deck must be known at all times, if your commander becomes face down (such as manifest) it must be clear at all times that the manifested card is your commander

>>96531706
Oh neat the rules got me covered
would that still be commander damage if the manifest attacked?

>>96531746
yes, which is why it must be known information

>>96531706
Is that still a rule? I thought they got rid of it when they changed the rules in Ikoria because the set was so poorly-designed.

>>96530608
I'd probably word it like:

>Until end of turn, if a player would win the game while another player has more than 0 life, that player loses the game instead.

>guy spends 15 minutes drawing cards and tutoring
>does nothing

>>96531636
Why would you do that though? Bad threat assessment?

>>96531697
Define interaction

>>96531888
Spells that interact with your opponents cards, preferably at low cost so you don't get ganked early. Swords to Plowshares, Lightning Bolt, Fatal Push and Counterspell are examples of interaction.

>>96531911
>9 counterspells, 5 board wipes, and half a dozen spells that removal any permanent aren't interaction now
ok

>>96531865
better known as Saffron Olive

He seems fun for a mono-white commander

>>96531959
minwu bros..

>>96531959
Why don't you just buy funkopops instead?

>>96531977
Because MTG is interactive Funkos at this point.

>>96531959
what the fuck does this ability/keyword soup have to do with Spooderman?

Brand new to this, I bought the Merfolk precon as my first deck, upgraded it a little bit but want to try something else.
Help me decide on a a 2nd commander deck.
Ygra, food stuff looks like fun
Lathril, lots of elves, mana and burn
Helga, good engine
Lumra, I like bears

>>96531980
Only while you keep buying funkos

>>96531977
>This looks fun to play
>"HEY WHAT ABOUT THESE STATUES YOU DON'T PLAY WITH?!?!?"

>>96531981
People have been speculating that Spider-Man was going to be a half set like Assassins Creed that then got fleshed out. Given how generic this ability is, I could honestly see it being a card for another set with Spider-Man art put on it. Same for the Gwenom card

>>96531991
>Speculating
It was confirmed by MaRo it used to be like 108 cards

>>96531982
This nibba likes GREEN

>>96531982
Lumra is just Ashaya but higher cost
Lathril is pretty common so good if you care more about winning than being creative
I’d say Ygra

>>96531981
They can't make it TOO Spiderman coded because they had to also make a non-spiderman version

>>96531991
i can't read anything Venom withouth hearing it

>>96532007
There isn't a UW version of that card. None of the cards with the spider set symbol have UW versions. They aren't part of the main set.

>>96532012
KNOCK KNOCK LET THE DEVIL IN

>>96531917
Five of those counterspells can't interact with Tifa.
>any permanent
That's the problem actually. It's got four hard removal spells and three of them are three cmc cards that, while flexible, are bad answers to an aggro deck. Flexibly is not always king. Every creature, artifact, and enchantment I'm looking at does nothing to help. The commanders do nothing to help. If this deck doesn't open with StP, Tefari's, or Cyclonic Rift it gets raped.

where my three dog amigos at

>>96532047
>UB slop

>>96531917
I never said that. You said "define interaction" and I answered you.

>>96531959
What do +1/+1 counters and indestructible have to do with spider-man? This set is so ass.

I just came here to say what a mess the situation regarding Spiderman's Through the Omenpaths is.

>>96532024
I will counterpoint that while yes it's shitty to answer Tifa for 3 mana instead of 1, it's far worse to die to Tifa because you drew Nature's Claim instead of Fatal Push.

https://moxfield.com/decks/zUt0SS75ikWlDzX-6vwhKA
Can you help me cut cards and make a good kefka deck? Pls i beg!

>>96532182
No thanks Final Fagstasy lmao

>>96531991
That isn't part of the set, it's from the welcome deck.

>>96532182
>Resolve Kefka
>u did it champ now ur opps don't wanna play

>>96532257
Heh. Which one? I spent over $400 on my most expensive card. All trade in credit though.

>>96530733
4 cmc isn't bad, but you're gonna get kicked in the face by Tifa for 30 damage on turn 4

>>96532263
>30 damage
>turn 4
By turn 4 you're dealing upwards of 64 to all 3 opponents and being called a tryhard just because your deck is consistent.

>>96532285
I just realized decking yourself with sergeant whatsit is probably a very real possibility huh

I like how big tits have put the fear of God in to every antitifa loser here.

>>96528624
Why does she look so submissive and breedable in this art?

>>96532285
It would be hard for Tifa to not be consistent, all she needs are some extremely inexpensive fetchlands to deal lethal damage almost immediately.

>>96532315
Scale Up + fetchland = death to antiTifas

>>96532351
Actually kinda pisses me off too for my Vihaan deck.

>>96532351
the only classes should be warrior, rogue, cleric, wizard, outlaw, and hero now FACT

>>96527238 (OP)
>how do i shot web
>3 to cast
Holy shit, the absolute state

>>96532285
>I need a medic
If someone gets thrown into a solid stone wall hard enough to break it you're going to need a mop and bucket

>>96532407
>HOLY SHIT 3 MANA LMAO?!
3 mana exile enchantments have been a thing forever.

>>96532315
You're not wrong, I built the deck for 80 bucks and that's counting all the fancy full art foil Forests I put in it.

Who are the Tifas of each colour? As in, which commanders are all of:
>inexpensive (in cmc, not necessarily irl money)
>consistent
>make use of one or more of their colour's trademark mechanics
>make people salty as fuck
>bonus: have fat fucking tits

>>96532568
They don't compare to Tifa but in Izzet it's Vivi and Orzhov is Lotho. Maybe Baral or Urza in blue and Krenko or Norin in Red

>>96532568
The tifa in bant. At least when it comes to fucking dogs that is

>>96532568
>Green: Tifa
>Black: Probably K'rrik or Syr Konrad
>White: Light-Paws by a country mile
>Blue: Tossup between Azami, Lady of Scrolls and Talrand, Sky Summoner
>Red: Krenko or Zada or Ojer Axonil, they're all kinda in the same place

>>96530573
Based Tifa slapper. Let me know how it went.

Are there any cards similar to Path in orzhov that have an opponent fetch a basic

>>96532671
path

>>96532671
winds of abandon

>>96532671
winds of abandon, settle the wreckage; emergency eject gives them a lander
oath of lieges and scholarship sponsor give everyone catchup ramp
field of ruin, demolition field, volatile fault, ghost quarter

>>96532605
>>White: Light-Paws by a country mile
I forgot about that furry yiffing faggot, but you're absolutely right.
>Blue
If we're going 4 mana, it should be blue Urza

Is jund the most fun color combo?

>>96532741
Easily

>>96532568
Tifa is such an overrated commander

light paws anime version when

>>96532070
Hard to make all of the 5 Peter Parker cards represent a fairly straight forward character. I think the Azorious one does it best.

>>96532741
yes, which is why wotc floods us with grixis, esper and naya commanders.

>>96532836
I think Spectacular does it the best. Swings in out of nowhere and saves everyone.

>>96532793
light-paws has an anime version
light-paws bloomburrow version when

Who's the best commander in R/U if I want to vomit out as many artifacts onto the field as possible? Jhoira? Brudiclad? Dalakos?

>>96532970
Vivi

>>96533093
This

anyone ever order proxies from eprintonline in aus? Had any issues or decent quality or should I order proxies from somewhere else?