Thread 96530200

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>Previous Thread:
>>96526715

>thread question:
What's the most obscure lore tidbit you know of that so far hasn't been retconned away?

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Deldar children

Blood for the Emperor, Skulls for the Golden Throne!

>>96530228
You're a weirdo if you do this

First for the inquisition

>TQ
As far as I know the Massacre at Big Toof River AKA Ork's Drift hasn't been retconned away despite what it references with the Praetorian Guard regiment and the orks.

>>96530231
huh? what changed? please tell me the army is more dependant on tzaangors.

>>96530233
Bring your child to work day is perfectly normal actually.

>>96530196
>Jew Goodwyn [is responsible for the current SM design]
Not really true, I'm sure he's partly responsible somewhere, but from the few concept art we've seen and interviews we know he's not that involved.

For instance: the space marine jumppack captain was designed by another guy, citing that he [the guy] wanted to give the captain a cape, so even if the primaris design was Goodwyn's fault, there are still people itterating on it and failing.

Picrel is the concept art for a primaris chaplain, while anyone can recognize the current chaplain model, you can also see it's different.

It's entirely possible that the design changes were Goodwyn's, but we also know that someone else made the 3D model/sculpt.
Same thing with the bladeguards.

TL;DR: Worst case scenario Goodwyn cannot be solely responsible.

>The Imperium could supposedly end the Tau Empire any time they wanted if they put real effort into it
>And yet they've wasted the efforts and lives of dozens of Space marine chapters and Titan Legions, along with rare, irreproducible archeo-tech, and committed exterminatus on planets that the Tau have taken or are about to take

>>96530246
Not when you're a professional rapist, drug addict, and murderer. It's weird thinking of putting kids in those situations and if you cant understand why then you are probably mentally ill.

>>96530200 (OP)
>tq

>>96530244
You can only attempt to cast a ritual once per phase. Your additional goat-casters are even less relevant now.

>>96530255
>you can also see it's different.
Nta but I actually can't see how its different. What are you even talking about that shit is the exact same as the model

When is that 4 armed mandrake guy getting a model

>>96530255
>TL;DR: Worst case scenario Goodwyn cannot be solely responsible.
Imo the case nowadays is that Jes designs some of the stuff, but most of his work is just concept sketches like this primaris chaplain here.
Like he draws the rough sketch and idea and then somebody else iterates on it to make it more finalized and then finally some guy then finally sculpts it.

Lets be honest, concept art of models will never be 100% similiar to the actual end product that is the physical 3d model.
There's lot of stuff you can do in a 2D drawing that just doesn't work or look good on a 3D model.
Also big factor is that these things are meant to be miniatures, so lot of compromises have to be made in terms of detail for example. Since even if plastic injection molding has come a long way and is much better and lets you achieve higher "resolution"/detail/fidelity in a model, it's still not going to be as good as something like resin.

>>96530259
The whole "lol the Imperium could sweep the Tau without effort" narrative has been a cope since Dal'yth. Now, post 5th sphere it's explicitly not true.

>>96530297
Who

>>96530297
You'll have to outsource

>>96530244
if you fuck up a doombolt that's it for the round trying to cast it

>>96530259
The entire point was that that was the Imperium believing it's own bullshit
The irony of course is that Imperium fans believe that exact same bullshit and get mad when the fluff shows that

So this is the new Calgar right?

>>96530259
iirc they were prevented from wiping out the prenascent Tau civilization by the divine winds (aka warp storms). By the time the storms lifted, the Tau had advanced to their modern incarnation and not the primitive species the Imperium expected.

>>96530328
Obviously yeah, it was posted in the last thread.
Tried looking for news about it but GW's site has nothing and there's no talk about it elsewhere either.

>>96530286
Bolt pistol
Skulls under the scrolls
Hanging reliquary
The second reliquary is hanging from the holster's bottom
Legs are thiner
"Heavy Gauntlets with sculpted detail on cuff"
Pose is more confident
"Mantle" (look at right shoulder)
Powerpack exhaust look higher than the powerpack's body, contrary to the model.
Beegger book.
Charm on left hand is wrapped around hand, not just wrist, and of different design.
Right wrist also has prayer beads.

This is just the things that are kinda obvious.

Fuck this retarded game and GW. Apparently two guys doing well in the tournaments is less of an issue than Death Guard and Knights of either kind and warranted an entire faction getting gutted.

>>96530328
I don't get the joke

birb

>>96530345
Innes figured out that 80 neos countered knights, so your faction deserves death.
Sorry I don't make the rules.

>>96530345
This is what happens when you let tourneyniggers run things

>>96530345
You meant more of an issue right? Two guys doing well being less of an issue implies they nerfed Knights and DG.

>>96530305
To me knowledge you are pretty spot on.

However, it is possible for a model to be near identical to a reference, but the reason why it rarely ever is nowadays is down to art direction.

Art direction is lax, because it's cheaper/faster to not be up the modeler's ass.
If the art director has more input and control over quality then you can see spot on reproduction of references.

This is why a lot of modern media may look boring/generic/look-a-like.

>>96530328
>It's another shitty remake of an old thing
Woah

>>96530345
Knights of both flavours are dead in the water.
DG got a surprisingly measured touch, they're still strong but not quite overpowered. If you just touch one or two stratagems and nerf Mortarion's Hammer to be shooting phase they would be in a perfect spot pretty much.

>>96530344
Not shitposting. I think you are pretty autistic

>>96530362
Dayum he's tiny

>>96530329
Obviously I don't think anyone would argue that the Imperium couldn't wipe out the Tau back when they were a pre-spacefaring species. But even as far back as the first Damocles Crusade the Imperium was committing (and losing) Space Marine companies and Titan legions against the Tau, and what they committed got stopped on the first major sept world they encountered (the other two worlds they took were outpost colonies with populations in the low tens of thousands).

Obviously they could've committed more Titan Legions, and entire Space Marine chapters to the effort, but that's a major effort, far from the 'lol we don't have to even try you're just not worth the minor effort' narrative you typically see.

And by the time of the 2nd Damocles Crusade the Imperium is committing exterminatus on entire star systems and using a literally irreplaceable archeotech weapon that sets ablaze entire nebulaes to slow down the Tau's expansion. And you most certainly do not commit exterminatus on a planet that you can easily take back later, when the Imperium started doing that it was a sign that the Tau had grown beyond their capacity to wipe them out.

>>96530365
Yeah I meant more of an issue, I'm mad and can't type. The reason why they did well was they countered Knights and were good vs. Death Guard as they're fucking OP and at least a quarter of everyone just spammed OP shit to win. The moment they were balanced out, the reason for GSC's winrate would go down naturally. It's not like too many people play the faction, instead we got dumpstered.

>>96530372
I am Autismus, Master of the Armour Legion. Predictor of nu-marks, ancient baker of threads, sprue erudite, bit cataloguer and occasional kitbasher.

Anyone have a favorite Lelith proxy?

>>96530328
>>96530334

So a leak but no one cares because of Ultracucks

>>96530386
Something Something daughters of khaine

>>96530366
>Art direction is lax, because it's cheaper/faster to not be up the modeler's ass.
>If the art director has more input and control over quality then you can see spot on reproduction of references.
>This is why a lot of modern media may look boring/generic/look-a-like.
That's fair. Very true.

>>96530384
Also not shitposting. I think you seem fucking annoying.

>>96530400
Weird, usually it's the shitposters that find me annoying...

Wait a minute

>>96530386
Just paint her well lmao

>Current Drazhar
Twinlinked weapons, +1 to wound for the entire squad, generates Pain Tokens, gets hit rerolls from PFP

>New Drazhar
>No Twinlinked
>Have to pay Pain Tokens for lance
>Personal (not groupwide) rerolls but only on units below starting/half strength
>oh but you get a longer pile in, i'm sure your T3 bodies will hand it fine :))
>For all of this he gets Dev Wounds on his weaker profile
>The Incubi he leads grant him devwounds anyway

why did they nerf the worst epic hero in the army

Tell me we have a non-shitpost image of the calgar leak. Come on.

Also, good-bye gravis, hello terminator, TOTAL PRIMARIS DEATH

So are Dark Eldar the uncontested most complicated army in the game to play now?

>>96530384
>no mention of painting

>>96530430
I am an armour autist, not a chapter connaisseur.

>>96530424
Imo I think it's fitting for them to be so, DE should be a tricksy finesse army, but I don't think GW is going to stick the landing in actually making them worth that complexity. Especially with the anemic model range until 11er-right?

>>96530255
>he's not that involved.
every piece of equipment, every gun, every armor and every vehicle, is all designed by jes

>>96530454
Is it?

>>96530384
You're just a faggot on a tibetan yak milking forum with too highly self-inflated opinion of himself.

>>96530454
That guys literally autistic and has no clue what he's talking about look at his readoning for why the art is drastically different from the model>>96530344

>>96530271
>>96530318
Wait where does it say that I cant find it?

>>96530454
Is it though?

>>96530461
yes

>>96530423
>Tell me we have a non-shitpost image of the calgar leak. Come on.
We have a non-shitpost image of the calgar leak.

>>96530463
>>96530467
Worse than that: I'm right. ;^)

>>96530477
Except we have interviews of designers saying they designed stuff. Oops!

>>96530476
yes

>>96530486
>Except we have interviews of designers saying they designed stuff
Not the armours, guns or vehicles, they don't get to do that, you never see them making choices about those, only jes does it.

>>96530470
it has to be a ritual not yet attempted, so if you fuck up you either take those MWs or wait for your next shooting phase

>>96530499
You see Jes making choices?

Consider:

- Someone ACTUALLY sat down and designed these and thought to themself "yeah, this is good!"

- Someone ELSE received these for review and said "Yeah, this is good, approved!"

>>96530417
She looks very stocky for a nimble elf deathgoddess.

>>96530509
how many times are you going to post this

>>96530502
>Select one ritual no model from your army has attempted to manifest this turn

Doesnt that just mean you cant use the same ritual multiple times?

>>96530509
Jes "I was tired of Space Marines so I made Space Marines 2" Goodwyn

>>96530424
Not really because all the pain rules are either boring and easy to remember or too weak to matter.
It's a very weak codex honestly.

>>96530509
and then thousands of marinefags bought them and repaid the whole process and cost of moulds many times over

>>96530523
There's a couple other units I could use instead, if you'd prefer.

>>96530534
I'd prefer you swallow buckshot instead /v/ermin

>>96530524
yes, but if you attempt and fail you can't try to do it agian, so when before you had shitgoats being backup casters for the good rituals so they have higher chance to go off now you have only 1 shot/turn at specific ritual

Just read Iron Snakes (kino) and Nightbringer

Are there any other books where SM fight Necrons?

>>96530503
Many, not all good.

He's got a sort of equivalent for sameface syndrome but for guns.

>>96530265
That's their culture.

>>96530536
Suppressors are /v/, as is the entire Primaris range. Video gayme faggot shit infesting the tabletop.

>>96530551
post your models with timestamp

>>96530424
Did we get a deldar refresh?!!!!!

>death guard changes: nothing

imperiumlets seething

>>96530509
>ban evading
Wew lad better get some poppers for when the jannies make you bounce and moan on it

>>96530558
did WE get any changes?

>>96530551
You own no miniatures and will instead lash out and attempt to deflect from this

>>96530558
>caring about the meta at all
This is a self report that you need strangers to play with because you're utterly miserable to be around.

>>96530580
>If you like an army, you're a metafag.

It's people here whining about it, you dont go 10 minutes without whining that its too overpowered.

How come DG didn't get any nerf? I thought they were OP?

>>96530599
they already got their emergency nerfs

>>96530594
I don't complain about anythings balance because I have the ability to talk to my friends

Vashtorr has a holiday. Does [insert name of Dark God here] have a holiday? No, they don't. Only Vashtorr has a holiday.

>rogal dorns up by 10
who cares
>all baneblades down by 30
guardbros how are we feeling? im happy with that and solar down by 20

>>96530529
Based Jes fucking up the paypig faction on purpose as a humiliation ritual while giving the Eldar new yet faithful sculpts

>>96530633
post models

>>96530554
>>96530571
You both know it's true.

40k was created by guys with an interest in history and literature, as well as military hardware. Nu40k is in the hands of dorks whose only background is 40k, plus superhero movies and video games. And of course, the corporate masters.

Enjoy your tabletop /v/.

>>96530554
>>96530571
NTA but you're supposed to post yours when making the demand

This thing is honestly kind of a ridiculous transport now. Extra melee attacks, six special rules, whole detachment centered around it. There's no way they stay as cheap as they are.

>>96530651
>admitting to being a nomodels
embarrassing!
>>96530657
>filename
nice try

>>96530657
/hhg/ is two blocks down bud

>>96530633
The writers are complicit. They're all in on it. It's a conspiracy against the Sons of Sanguinius.

>>96530657
>model posted in the same thread
>4chan filename
There's that deflection

>>96530671
What designer's dog did the BA driver over with their Baal Predator to deserve all of this?

>>96530267
Explain

>>96530661
>blades and chains stuck on the underside of a flying boat make d3+3 melee attacks
Cool game, guys.

It was a joke guys, come on

>>96530662
Bow to your overlords.

He loves yous

>it's the t-sports retard again
How many ban evades can he get in a single week

Worse its decalslopper

>>96530739
That guy is actually mentally ill, he trolls several different generals as his pasttime. Unironically sad.

Do we have the succy sheet? Or is there an imgur yet?

>>96530328
>Staff assaulting armor
The fuck?

>>96530388
nobody wants to repost it because of the memery

>>96530342
the orange turd is a bigger narcissist than any champion of the Emperor's Children

A friend of mine sprayed a miniature for the first time and this is the result. What did he do wrong?

>>96530784
Either he sprayed from too far and the paint started drying before hitting the mini or it was too humid

>>96530784
a few common things can cause this
too humid outside
too hot outside
sprayed with the model in direct sunlight so the paint dried slightly before it landed
sprayed too far from the model so the paint dried slightly before it landed

>>96530328
>>96530774
Oh wait, is this about that one BL writer who's a Flesh Tearers fan but also a violent tard who assault one of his co-workers or some other random guy?

>>96530792
to add to this, whenever I use rattlecan primers I always bring a few plastic spoons to test my spray on before hitting my models just to make sure the spray is going to behave before putting it on the real plastic, I would recommend he invest in a cheap bulk box of them for this

>>96530661
Really time for them to add sticky objectives to CORE abilities.

>>96530756
>posts in question are on-topic and you have no refutation

>>96530661
Makes sense it's a very iconic DE unit.

>>96530543
The World engine i guess

>>96530791
>>96530792
It's 26°C according to the weather report, so it should be fine. Can't say if it's too humid. It's nighttime, so no sunlight issue.

I think most probable cause it that he ignored all the videos I sent him and sprayed from god knows where. Thanks for the advice.

>>96530815
>vehicles shouldn't behave like vehicles

>been painting tau in the og scheme
Ah....so this is it....warhammer sovl....

Have other codexes received legends rules for stuff that didn't make it into their 10th book?

>>96530792
honestly this just sounds like for infantry one might as well be brush-priming if not willing to get aerograph

>>96530853
I will never understand why they changed their official scheme from this to that boring ass white

>>96530854
Yes

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96530905
just shut the fuck up already

>>96530868
Brush primer is honest work. Spray cans are the spawn of satan. They promise you the moon but they fuck you up for whatever reason.

>>96530910
how about you shut up instead and let that poor DE anon ritual post until his dreams come true

>>96530922
>defending ritualposters
kys along with him please

>>96530891
Cool

If you're a mouth breather who has to use shitty brush on primer because you're too fucking stupid to follow the directions written on the side of a rattlecan then you should just kill yourself now

>>96530746
What?

You use brush on primer because you're retarded.

I use brush on primer because I'm broke.

We are not the same.

>>96530949
>cant afford a $10 rattlecan
nigga you got bigger problems to worry about

>>96530328
So this is GW pretty much admitting that gravis was a mistake and not as iconic as terminator armor when the only named gravis character is reverting back to terminator armor

>>96530949
if you can afford GW minis or a 3D printer you can definitely afford a rattlecan

Does anyone decorate the rims of the bases for their characters? I'd love to add a 3D printed "scroll" for the 40mm base, but I don't know where to get an STL for that. Any advice?

>nerf DG
only points costs so its goes down from 58% winrate to 52%
>nerf Tsons
Literally shatter their kneecaps in both points and rules
LMAO

>>96530953
Gravis looks cool for heavy weapons.

>>96530953
remember when the primarisfags here declared gravis was replacing terminators KWAB
>inb4 we never said that!

>>96530344
Anon this is like weapons grade autism. A lot of stuff you're complaining about is too small to be a detail on this mini as well.

>>96530973
Nothing primaris looks cool.

>>96530976
I mean, terminators are complete shit and gravis units aren't exactly the worst things in the codex right now

>>96530976
8th ed primaris have been basically retconned.

>>96530979
Yea but they look far better than firstborn

>>96530976
we didn't
you still haven't posted your models btw

>>96530988
Here's one now! Never too late for you to eat crow, you big faggot!

Throwing my hat in the ring: the rustoleum 2x matte black primer is literally the best primer I've ever used; goes on way smoother in way shittier conditions than Chaos Black or any AP stuff. The paint+primer sucks but the pure primer is fucking magic.
It just sucks it means I have to prime everything black

>>96530986
Not familiar with that word.

But think about this: take actual Space Marines, and give them updated model kits with improved proportions and scale. Basically what already exists for Chaos Marines and 30k models.

>>96530953
>not as iconic as terminator armor
To be fair, something they just released (gravis) was never going to be as iconic as something that's been in the game for 50+ years and been the focus of board games, video games, books, etc.

>>96530949
i can't be assed dragging models for 3 stores and i don't really eat stuff like pizza so i don't have boxes to make a cover
and if i were to base after dragging it would have to be all in or nothing so it's leaning on nothing

>>96530986
>Yea but they look far better than firstborn
you have shit taste ngl, tacticool is so fucking ugly on Primarislop

I have returned. I bring you love and peace. Submit.

>>96530992
>>96530999
>>96531007
still waiting on those models btw

>>96531012
(you)

>>96531012
Yes we still are waiting for you to post your models.

>>96531009
>love
lmao
you don't get it, do you?

>>96531012
You make the demand, you post yours first. Them's the rules, baby

>>96530953
Calgar always wore his special boy artificer armor, even after he crossed the rubicon.

i'm going to paint a model today

>>96531017
>admitting to it
>>96531018
>>96531029
cope harder nomodels

>>96531034
dusty ass fellas

>>96531034
nice ebay rescues

>>96531036
consequences of living in an old house
>>96531038
there's that deflection again!

>>96531034
>that 6 and 3
jeet

Last deployment was fun read.
I think my next reads will be is yarrick omnibus or hh descend of angels.
I read way too much bl.

>>96531033
Liar

>>96531044
I'm none of the people you were arguing with bruh

>>96531059
watch this space (^:

>>96531034
>every response is avoiding posting their models
this is why you never engage with firstborn shitposters anon

The Drukhari discords think the army is completely dead

>>96530831
You might notice that all the rules are actually related to the people going in the vehicle and not the vehicle itself.
Wyches disembark further because they're agile and jump out of them. Kabalites shoot better because they have ammunition racks. Wracks just knife whoever get close so the vehicle attacks more, etcetera. The rules could've also been on the unit datasheets but it's easier to just have them there.

>>96531069
>drukhari
>discords

>>96531069
>The Drukhari discords think

>>96531069
>discords think

>>96530949
I use brush on primer because my airbrush missed a spot and I didn’t notice until I cleaned it and put it away and I ain’t dragging it out now just to spray the toe of a boot of a random tactical marine.

>>96531069
Drukhari is their slave name anon

Goin to the LGS tomorrow, what should I buy?

>A 4th HH Leman Russ since I bought a swappable turret mod off Etsy a while back
>A box of Wraithguard + a Spiritseer
>Salamanders Combat Patrol

>>96531088
yeah and this codex is the buck breaking

>>96530661
Dedicated transports are all a little undercosted because you HAVE to fill them with infantry or else they explode at the start of the match.

Drukhari reddit thinks it's over as well.

>>96531034
Those are covered in lint. Do you live in filth?

Also, those eyes look like shit and you have no highlighting at all. The only shading seems to be a wash on the skin/cloth and a bit on some of the face grill, knee-face, and some AWFUL shading on the horns on the right.

Absolutely pathetic. Quit the hobby.

>>96531049
Yeah, who the hell writes like that?

>>96531094
Russ and play heresy it's fun

>>96531103
>shitting on someone without posting his
you're unironically pathetic

Drukhari is a cool name.
Better than the dark eldar.

>>96531103
quiet down nomodels

>>96531108
Nobody asked you, numbnuts

>>96531103
>shadingschizo is back after melting down over the sisters
can we not have another one of you fucking freaks

>>96531034
Holy shit we found someone who paints even worse than sallyfag

seriously though, are they trying to sabotage thousand sons?

>>96531071
I was talking more about the changes to vehicles over the years, and a raider making 3d+3 melee attacks.

>>96531108
it's a bit lame
"commorrite eldar" would have worked fine

>>96531122
shut the fuck up

>>96531131
This is better than what the TS got

>>96531034
Cute dudes
And good job setting the nomodels into instant meltdowns lmao

>>96531137
>WE players complain about how ugly eightbound and jakhals are
>only new models are more jakhals but uglier and another generic eightbound
it's infinitely worse, kill yourself

>>96531107
Normally I would give encourage anyone who makes an effort at painting, but this Anon brought it upon himself.

>>96531122
Trust the plan.

>>96531144
Yeah he really deserves it for exposing nomodel shitposters for what they are

>>96531143
>WE players complain about how ugly eightbound and jakhals are
fuck off tourist

>>96531137
Eightbound are dogshit and jakhals are an actual afterthought and look fuck ugly and stupid.

>>96531152
>exposing
how'd the jeet do that?

>>96531143
>it's infinitely worse
it's bad, but still far better than tzaanbots

>>96531122
The models look crap but their rules seem good. Just make your own.

>>96530367
>DG got a surprisingly measured touch, they're still strong but not quite overpowered.
lol no they're still S++ tier op

>>96531160
he's right though
I fucking hate them both and not a single person at the LGS has anything good to say either
literally the only person I've seen say anything good was a sloptuber
still hunting for a good chaotic cataphractii proxy to use for eightbound in my list

>>96531170
Notice how none of the posts he challenged replied with models and instantly went to deflect and insult his instead
Yeah he exposed (you)

>>96531131
this is nowhere comparable
they are kinda going auto pilot on khorne stuff but at least they're not trying to sell you 2 robots (who are also only the size of terminators) for $25 a pop

>>96531144
>still won't post models
opinion discarded, fuck off back to /v/ you shitstirring secondary

>Silent King -20p
>Triarch Praetorians -10p
What the fuck am I supposed to do with this? This literally changes nothing. Absolutely nothing.

>>96531102
>>96531069
They're both being histrionic. There's going to be a big adjustment period but there's still plenty of play there in the new book. Dedicated faction specialists will tease out all the angles in a month or so as always and then they'll need to be nerfed in another thirteen weeks.

How are you preparing for Orktober this year?

>>96531177
that exposed nothing except that nobody took his screeching seriously

>>96531197
>Plenty of play
the army doesn't have a play into vehicles and monsters at all anymore and only one detachment is viable

>>96531122
I'll get these on release and paint them in turquoise and gold, I'm sure they're gonna look nice. I really don't get the hate.

>>96531209
quiet down nomodels

>>96531209
So, no models?

was making deity legions their own faction a mistake? would they just have been better further developing CSM?

>>96531196
Change for the sake of change isn't a good thing, and Necrons are doing fine.

>>96531152
>>96531195
>I said it again! I said it again!
I don't give a shit about posting pictures for you, retard.

>>96531223
>deflecting
lmao, every single fucking time

>>96531221
funny irony is that is almost certainly a marinefag who posted this

>>96531197
anon the army does not start with pain tokens.

>>96531184
AoS's Khorne stuff as a whole is WAY cooler than the WE slop we have in 40k

>>96531207
Orktober is when Ork fans get angry at GW for not doing something they imagined in their heads, right?

>>96531221
>was making deity legions their own faction a mistake?
No, the mistakes were not making them supplements that can take a lot more units from undivided chaos
and not giving them way wider access and interactions with their demons

>>96531221
>was making deity legions their own faction a mistake?
Yes. Chaos factions are possibly the one thing AoS got right.

>>96531184
I like em

Chaos was a mistake

>>96531251
AoS has deity factions though.

>>96531222
I guess but theu could've dropped points on things people rarely use or don't use at all. Like give the Void Dragon a drop, maybe drop Crypthralls to 50p so 2 of those sacrificial drones arent worth the same as 5 Deathmarks. Maybe dshave off some points from the Monolith or Doomstalkers or Annihilation Barges.

>>96531223
lmao seething nomodels

>>96531223
Your /v/ermin ass is absolutely seething, beautiful to see

>>96531251
Aos is deity factions fucking dumbass

Are Emperor's Children cooler than World Eaters (based on current models)?

>>96531242
kino

So what if Im no model

>>96531255
>autistic astartesfaggot (sorry, Primaris™, Astartes are dead) angry at everything that isn't his toys

>>96531221
I think they should have been like regular SM, a neutral CSM range with legion specific stuff that locked you down to that faction. Currently they can't borrow most shit from Chaos Space Marines despite being Chaos Space Marines themselves.

>>96531268
no, emperor children aren't cool at all, even tzaangors are cooler.

>>96531244
I kinda like how you can play a full hero hammer list and all blood thristers there.
Ill admit I havent played world eaters in a while but they werent really fun pre codex.

>>96531255
Right, but they aren't just Chaos Warriors, but regular dudes and demons as well.

>40k legion factions have cultists and demons!
As an irrelevant afterthought, and without consideration for Chaos Marines aligned to a ruinous power that aren't the named legion.

>>96530378
Why are you not mentioning that Phil Kelly's latest book confirmed that the Damocles Crusade was a just as planned ploy by the Ethereals?

>>96531253
>autistic astartesfaggot (sorry, Primaris™, Astartes are dead) angry at everything that isn't his toys

>>96531268
Yes
Lucius is genuinely the best model they've made in years

>>96531286
Nobody with any sense would mention a Phil Kelly book for anything besides warning people off it.

>>96531267
see:
>>96531285

A Legion-specific army isn't the same as a God-specific army. You dumbfuck.

Primaris Chaos Space Marines when

>>96531271
Kys

>>96531301
When you have sex.

>>96531290
I genuinely love models that have this pose - weapon raised almost like saying to their minions: forward!

>>96531306
Nice try. The emperor protects my virginity like all good space marines

GSC BROS WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED WHY

>>96531262
>Hello sir! Where models bloody bitch sir! fuck you where models?

>>96531290
not at all lmao

>>96531308
Ironically he sucks at leading a unit
He not only provides no buffs, he losses his lone op

>>96531321
Yes the average /v/ermin is a pajeet like you we know

>>96531273
there seems to be a certain amount of dissonance when designing the chaos legions
CSM works in extremes, the identity of each legion is much more specific (at least ideally)
so it makes perfect sense for thousand sons to not share a lot of stuff with world eaters or even thousand sons sharing a lot with iron warriors

but GW doesn't have infinite money to be making all the cool stuff each faction COULD have so i get why they do have some gaps. what i can't understand is how they insist on filling those gaps with low priority stuff like this >>96531131
>>96531122

>>96531340
>low priority stuff
according to who?

>>96531346
me. i don't think we needed another eightbound when we still don't have red butchers

>>96531348
what role could red butchers have

>>96531348
or a butcher surgeon
or teeth of khorne
or biker zerkers
or jump zerkers
>>96531355
being an actual TEQ maybe

>>96531357
or bloodstalkers

>>96531348
plastic red butchers would be cool
the resin hh models are absolute garbage

>>96531335
WHERE ARE MODELS SIR? DO THE NEEDFUL AND POST MODELS BLOODY BITCH SIR! PLEASE REDEEM MODELS SIR!

>>96531363
Uh oh /v/ermin melty

30k models in 40k are cringe.
Let the two systems have their own niches

>>96530999
>Not familiar with that word.
Secondary self reports will never stop being funny

>>96531340
moreover, there are still A LOT of weird things they don't share but should
who's idea was it to get rid of cultists for 1ksons and DG?
i know you can still run CSM as legion specific stuff but there isn't really much of reason to do that when GW sees the deity legions as representing the generality of their gods, not the actual legions and their offshoots

>>96531369
Shut up, bitch. You're a xenosfag with nothing from HH and therefore have no stake in the matter.

>>96531369
shouldn't have brought back primarchs

>>96531369
too late
deathshroud and scarab occult terminators already got ported to 40k aesthetics in plastic
no reason for red butchers and whatever the EC unique terminators are called to get ported too other than GW's malicious incompetence

>>96531370
Primaris aren't Astartes, they're knock-offs, so there's no such thing as a "firstborn."

>>96531382
Still waiting on those models btw

>>96531369
Chapters having relics from ten millennia ago is kino, opinion discarded.

>>96531382
Nobody cares what you think though, you don't play or own any models

>>96531386
They don’t exist, never have

My list is 5 points over the limit now and I have no alternatives other than a major overhaul of the whole list. All because of 5 points. For an army with a below 45% win rate. Thanks GW.

>>96531369
I love my leviathan and heresy stuff, I think they're neat

>>96531397
Is this your first time being present for rules updates. It's to be expected that you need to shuffle your list or playstyle after a dataslate

>>96531382
trying too hard at this point, faggot

>>96531397
who cares about your marines

>>96531398
New dreads mog them but you paint them very well.

>>96531408
your overcluttered garbage doesn't mog anything tho

>>96531403
Yes I'll have to shuffle my 5 units.

>there's only like 1200 space wolves
>still a major army
why do this?

>>96531415
Its mogsville and you know it

>>96530976
Its especially retarded because the lore for Gravis was always that it was worse than Terminator armor, but mass producible. A 1000~ strong Chapter might have 10-30 sets of terminator armor but the whole chapter can wear Gravis if they want too.

>>96531408
god damn these are ugly
nobody ever taught you what "too much of a good thing" meant huh

>>96531408
Where's the timestamp though?

>>96531419
Still waiting on those models btw

>>96531417
Ok time for bed dumdum
>>96531421
You’re uglier

>>96531197
This. I hope yall waacfag deldar players like Voidraven bombers (before they are nerfed AGAIN).

>>96531435
>waacfag
>deldar players
Pick one.

>>96531426
saar

>>96531425
Check last thread dumbo, now eat shit.

>>96531184
These would be great to use for the WE humies kill team, the uh... Goremongers. They look way more khorney than those.

>>96531417
Really
Thought they were like Black templars
No off shoots but every subfaction was a full chapters strength

>>96531454
>these shirtless dudes with axes look more khornate than these other shirtless dudes with axes

>>96531405
>>96531391
>defending NuHammer

>>96531465
quiet down nomodels

>>96531465
>not owning models

>>96531408
I like both for different reasons, they've got pretty different silhouettes and I like the more crude looking weapons the heresy stuff gets but also really like the polished more scifi feels the primaris ones give you I also think the boxnauts fill a different niche of still looking somewhat awkward and crude while still feeling very scifi with their weapons and are really cool

>>96531465
Uh oh nomodels melty

>>96531472
why are you replying to him

>>96531465
>those papercraft drop pods
pure SOVL

>>96531465
Yeah I like all the models for the most part, there's only a few models in all the ranges I specifically don't like in some way.

>>96531476
Refuting claims of one dreadnought pattern being the coolest when all nought patterns are equally rad

>>96530949
I wouldn't be surprised if some people use brush on primer because they live in a bad neighborhood and don't want to signal to their bad neighbors that they're wealthy enough to warrant consideration for a robbery by spraying expensive miniatures outside.

Grandpa tank is almost done.

>>96531476
Because she can do what she wants you wacko

>>96531512
>no edge highlights
Im getting you pregnant

>>96531518
I wasn't talking to you, you obnoxious faggot. Don't reply to me again.

>>96531499
>implying some street thug is going to have any idea how much that toy you're spraying really costs

>>96531499
Anyone who is considering carrying out a home invasion will not know the value of models.

>>96531521
Or what pussy?

>>96531448
link the post

>>96531519
I did say almost.

>>96531512
dozer blade looking great but the gold needs some weathering to fit

Should 11th Ed give more points for painted armies or should it be a CP bonus or some sort? Unpainted models should be shunned

>>96531546
Current system is fine.

>>96531477
Those are good, I admit. The rest, not so much.

Is it appropriate for me to talk about 40k rpg stuff in here? I asked them about making a homebrew rpg based off the codexes so players wouldn't have to learn a new system. They thought it was a stupid idea but I wanted to get your feedback before I throw the idea away. Would you give playing a 40k role playing game a shot if you could use wh40k rules (with some tweaks) for an RPG instead of having to learn a new system?

>>96530200 (OP)
>TQ
Macragge's pre-Imperium culture canonically believed in the 9 circles of hell

are necron wraiths any good? wgat are they used for?

2 units of 3 i'm thinking, no technomancer, no night scythe to ferry them around

>>96531523
>>96531524
I mean given Warhammer's rising popularity I think that may change. But probably not for a while.

>>96531457
it doesn't seem to be the case
Space Wolves can't even really have successors (aside from one)
at least the Angels can have successors

here's to hoping 11th edition gives the deity legions new dreadnaughts/hellbrutes

>The Nevaks species
>A humble, trusting, xenophilic species that takes a 'safety first' approach to innovation, and is great at teamwork
>Introduced as auxillaries of the Tau Empire
I would add them just to fuck with you.

Are the Bequin books any good?

>>96531616
They're fine
Feels like Abnett has gotten worse with age though, probably a problem of editors not being able or willing to tell him "no" anymore.

Why are orange space marines so rare?

>>96531654
cause they get bullied off the board

>>96531654
hard color to paint

>>96531654
not a lot of chapters for tourists afraid to make their own
the few that is are either BA or that 1 salamander offshot
highlighting orange is a bitch

>>96531609
why is the rat ogryn so cute

Should I read the Bible or the night lord omnibus

>>96531680
there's a salamanders successor and like 3 blood angels ones and 5 imp fists ones and a few ultramarines ones that are all orange or half orange

>>96531683
Depends on which bible translation you're going to read.

>>96531669
This. It relies on a few things that people, especially new hobbyists and 'non-painters' don't want to do:
- You need a good even prime: white, light grey or pink
- You need good, even basecoat coverage. Oranges and yellows are unforgiving to sloppy or thick coats.
- You need to not fuck up any top details or cleanup, because anything you put over it will fuck it up immediately.

Compared to practically dunking it in blue and calling it a day it shouldn't be a surprise there are more Ultramarines.

>>96531681
Imagine snuggling her in bed.

>>96531408
Decalchad

>>96531680
>highlighting orange is a bitch
Why is that?

>>96531597
>here's to hoping 11th edition
lol

>>96531597
I just grabbed a NOS old FW world eaters dread still in the original bags from my LGS a couple weeks ago, need to build and paint him soon

>>96531737
maybe it's my eyes being bricked but for me orange is a greedy color that just keeps absorbing so it's way less noticable when using lighter shades that are not edging on white + what other poster said about specific combo of primer+coat

Drukhari went from 2 viable detachments in Index to 1 viable detachment in Codex.
I don't think that's ever happened. I'm amazed they pulled it off.

>lining up paints preparing to paint the last BGV storm shield in this squad
>11 pots when including the shade paints
Jesas do you guys ever take steps to simplify color schemes or do you just roll with it?

>>96531784
Punishment for having a too good Combat Patrol for too long

>>96531787
I roll with it
I use 26 paints including effects on every model

>>96531787
Post pics.

>>96531784
Reapers is definitely still good. Skysplinter is still playable. The Wych Cult one is interesting and might actually end up being busted.

>>96531811
They're not playable because you don't start with any pain tokens anymore and so you just don't have the gas to do anything. None of your datasheets work since they're so reliant on pain tokens. A bunch of guys running out of a raider with a pain token is now a hail mary play that will lose you the game if it fails since you only have 1 token per turn.
The best part of Reapers might just be the fact that Harlequin models don't have to worry about the army rule, which is quite concerning.

>>96531713
Waddup king?

>>96531814
Has anyone mistaken you for a man anon?

>>96531811
You start with one at the top of Battleround 1, possibly 2 if you bring a Haemonculus (whcih you should now). You spend turn 1 staging and taking potshots with your ravagers/scourges and then have 2-4 on turn two when you start going at it for real. You basically have the same 3 tokens you would have started the game with under the old rules and a few extras per game in total doled out later if you run dry.

>>96531784
>>96531811
how is the Kabalite one looking

>>96531861
It is very very strong but liable to falling flat on its face if the opponent plays cagey because they have to play very specifically to get Pain tokens

Somehow looking even more scarce than before.

its probably mid but picking someones special snowflake character and no scoping them with a ravager looks fun

>Tiny Legend is doing Steel Legion minis now
Hell yea, if I wasn't all in on Krieg I'd pivot hard towards this.

did anything gets legends in drukhari

>>96531919
Grotesques, Urien, Court, Beastpack

By the power of Grayskull! I have the power!

>>96530265
bro that's kind of fucking intolerant, please don't discriminate against dark eldar :/

>>96530509
>their armor is heavier than normal for added protection, but also lighter than normal for added mobility.
BRAVO

>>96531320
it's not too bad
completely unjustified, but not too bad

>>96531320
Just play broodsurge lmao

>>96531787
I consider any scheme that uses 20 or fewer colours a simple scheme

>>96531654
Orange is a fiddly pain in the ass colour to basecoat shade and highlight. It's a really translucent pigment and is really easy when shading and highlighting it and pushing it to far towards yellow or red. It's a fun colour when you find a workflow that you like

I've got an Eldar noob lore question. I've always seen Aspect Warriors in their unique colors, but the Dire Avengers page has this one pic in totally different colors. What's the deal?

Any tips on painting chocolate elves? I want dommy mommy drow dark elves with brown to tan skin but I've never painted that skin tone.

>>96532069
Lorewise there are variant versions of shrine colors and some wear their craftworld colors.
That particular one is an Ynnari dire avenger I think though and they all wear red. They're not supposed to have helmets though I don't think.

>>96532074
Darkoath flesh is pretty nice

>>96532069
Aspect warriors have a typical color scheme, but individual shrines can have their own variants. Personally, I like to keep them close to the standard scheme.

>>96531988
Someone made a 4-panel comic about Suppressors, I forgot to save it. Anyone have it?

>used grotesques to cheaply fill out my DE list
guh

>>96531890
Good catch, anon. That actually sounds fucking hilarious, even if it isn't ultimately that competitive.

>>96531890
That shit would take me out of the game. I'd just go through the motions until the game was over, disinterested. I wouldnt participate in conversation except when required for the game. Then pack up and leave when the game was over.

>>96532074
The dummy proof skin guide is
>base coat in 1st paint
>shade
>use base coat again but avoid recesses
>highlight color applied as needed
Learn blending and transitions to make it look better.

>>96532128
>>96532118
Except once they complete the contract they don't have a detachment rule anymore.

>Kabalites and Archon lost a movement down to 7" from 8"
lol, how did Dark Eldar end up even slower than the index? And still no way for their flying units to pass through walls.

I don't know anything about the Votann. Which codex is better if I just want to read about their lore?

>>96532157
Just get PDFs of both

>>96532157
If you own 0 Codex’s, then buying the most recent one will have the most up to date lore for the faction (otherwise it’s basically not worth buying another since the lore is 99 percent the same). GW has also made an effort to make the BL books consistent with Codex’s, so the one book the Votann has is just more lore. I’d imagine pdfs are floating around in the wild if you don’t want to pay money for anything.

>>96531890
Similar to the final ingredient enhancement that Death Guard have, I enjoy these thematic sub-objectives in the newest books.

>>96532066
Looks great, slay queen!

Befriend guy in lgs and tabletop group
Plays Necrons and Blood Angels
Great painter and friendly guy overall
Same interests in video games and movies. Managed to get me into No man's Sky which is great
Befriend him on Facebook
Straight up /pol/tard. Daily /pol/ level rants and posts, can't decide if he hates Muslims or Israel more. Only gotten worse due to Kirk

>>96532186
does he also play knights and space wolves perchance?

>>96532193
No

>>96532186
try to find common ground with him over hating Israel.

What's he up to?

>>96532209
We forgot
-Gdubs

>>96532128
Thats called being butthurt

>>96532193
Once again anything negative you attempt to attach to me, you are pathetic.

>>96532186
Post models

>>96532193
no chance, they said he was a great painter

>>96532186
You "people" are fucking sick.

>>96532238
Rodger Dodger!

>>96532060
Genuinely the sign of a shit painter

>>96532266
Flat

>>96532279
like your girlfriends ass and chest punk

>>96532266
Not enough decals

>>96530424
Lmao that's just a standard AoS factions ruleset
If you want complicated look up Maggotkin of Nurgle for 3rd ed AoS
They were managing 3 separate mechanics that occasionally interacted with one another
Im a Nurgle 4life with 5k Death guard but even then I didn't bother with Maggotkin

>>96532136
>using shade
>just make all the recesses the deepest shadows cause that's how light works irl
Never give painting advice again shitter.

>>96532272
you wouldn't know, nomodels

>>96532266
Easily one of our more unique posters regardless of their political affiliation and general reputation within our board. I salute your determination to make Knights your own anon.

>>96532282
Worry more about your painting and less about my girlfriend

>>96532238
Bro that's >>96532266 not me

>>96532295
>unique
it's just a basecoat and wash and every decal on the sheet

>>96532304
?

>>96532295
King shit, ty chief!
>>96532300
>>96532305
Eat a dick

>>96532238 #
Bro that's >>96532266 # not me

>>96532316
What mental retardation are you trying to express here?

>>96532313
Think more about how you can improve your paintjobs and less about eating dicks

>>96532320
shut the fuck up mutant

>>96532325
How about you instead /v/ermin

>>96532329
don't use buzzwords you don't understand redditor

>>96532150
Very funny that Ynnarii Archons can walk faster than C*mmorragh cucks

>>96532313
The water transfer decals are unironically holding you back from improving. They will out of place if you attempt any sort of volumetric or motivated lighting (or anything to make your minis look less flat) and they are also preventing you from practicing free handing decals which you would be able to shade and highlight properly.

>>96532336
I am painting a new Knight for the collage and will try and make him my best one.

>>96530542
Now you're very reliant on ritual cast buffs
(Which GW has already nerfed in a previous update stating you cannot stack the buffs)

Magnus is the obvious choice having 2 casts and +2 to cast
Ahriman gets +1 to cast which is not nothing
Foot demon prince can get up to +1 or, +2 to cast if friendly sorcerors die near him
And mutaliths give +1 to cast but only if you're using 3 dice to cast

Forget using any just any old sorceror to cast rituals with anymore

>>96532339
post the WIP

>>96532339
>for the collage
LOL

>>96532347
Its the new knight so its not here yet, it will be here I think on the 21-22nd of the month.

>>96532339
Well you have a lot of work to do. I'm sure you've noticed when taking pictures but your models look incredibly flat even with the bright overcast light from this picture>>96532266
This is especially prevalent on something so big like knights. That's why model painters that work with bigger scale stuff like busts won't just edge highlight and call it a day. You have to learn how to highlight volumes.
You're gonna want to practice proper highlight placement but then your decals will look super off unless you freehand them.

>>96532360
I will look into it ty fren.

>>96532360
You're wasting your time, people have been giving him advice for 20 months and he's not improved in the slightest

>>96532364
Why are you so negative? Just keep your nasty opinions to yourself

>>96532361
Something to keep in mind while volumetric highlighting is not to fall into the retard trap of "recesses = shadows." Using your picture again as an example, if the armiger was highlighted by a retard, the recesses on the circled area would be some citadel shade. But as we can see, in reality, all upward facing angles will be exposed to the light. This is also how you avoid getting shit like muscle islands on skin.

>>96532353
What does your guy charge for a rush paint job?

>>96532377
ty for your intelligence and expertise in this matter. I will watch some more videos later.

>>96532384
Hope you know bullying is ban worthy offense. Just food for thought

G’night /40kg/. Remember to take your meds and have a good weekend

>>96532393
Night SallyG!

>>96532186
sounds like a cool guy

>>96532398
Probably lots of fun to have beers with

>>96532402
and then what?

>>96532406
play a game of pretend

>>96532406
What do you mean?

>>96532186
Sounds like he has kept his political views to himself while gaming and it's really not your problem. If he starts sneaking in that shit when you're hanging out just let him know that you play games to keep your mind off the real world and don't want to talk about it.

Kneel

>>96532393
Good night Coal Hearts anon

>>96530973
It would look cooler if they had proper upper handles and not some skinny wrench that looks like its gonna snap under recoil

>>96532406
Listen to his drunk insane ramblings

>>96532442
Ah cain't. Mah knee hurts

I hope the Ferren Areios model gets announced this Sunday

>>96532447
You dont need a lot of metal to hold a lot of weight

>>96532465
It would look cooler.

I vaguely recall an Alpha Legion story about the Imperium sending out assassins because they hear Alpharius appeared somewhere, getting a Mission Complete message, and then the assassin never coming back. This repeats a few times until eventually, a space fridge filled with assassin heads is discovered. What book/ story am I thinking of? I feel like I read this as a greentext years ago, but I don't remember if it's fanfiction or not.

>Redemptor Dreadnought sub 200 points now
Waow I should finish painting mine lmao

I think I might have lost some of my hobby buddies...

>>96532482
Talk to me anon, what exactly happened?

>>96532466
Why?

>>96532493
Well I dunno I can't find them.

>>96532494
because the heavy weapons look big and chunky but then they're held up by a dinky little stick. It would look cooler if they had a thicker handle to match the rest of the gun.

>>96532497
Have you checked the nearest bridge?

>>96532508
I begrudgingly accept your opinion as valid. You may accept my concession.

>>96532511
>mission impossible 1 reference
Nice

>>96532511
oh but there's so many

So since Hunter Cadres are basically the closest thing the Tau have to an Imperial Guard regiment equivalent, and they're typically the largest permanent organization that military units are arranged under, are Hunter Cadres what planetary garrisons get put into? I saw several examples of different Hunter Cadres, but non that were explicitly labeled as planetary garrisons, but most of which could still function as such reasonably well.

The reason I ask is cause your typical Hunter Cadre has about 10% of it consisting of battlesuits. Now even if we exclude auxillary manpower, that's a lot of damn battlesuits. Like...billions of battlesuits. And they're more individually powerful than space marines.

>>96532531
Will you stfu xenofag?

>>96532531
Hunter Cadres don't necessarily have loads of battlesuits. The commander will be in one but you can have a cadre of nothing but guys in fish, piranhas, and drones, for example. The Taros Campaign has a bunch of examples of cadres making up a coalition.
And I don't have a pdf of that to share because it's one of the few hard copies I have so I never downloaded it.

>>96532531
Ignore the imperiumfag.
Yes hunter cadres are what planetary garrisons get put into.

>>96532531
>>96532541
I was under the impression Hunter Cadres were more similar in size to Space Marine Chapters... Fuck it you're going to make me go open the fucking book.

>>96532557
A hunter cadre is a single commander's formation, closer to a company in size rather than a regiment. A coalition is a collection of cadres which can be dozens or hundreds so it varies greatly.

Posting my game where I got completely roasted by Ultras, those Las Fusil are brutal for 2 rounds while I try to get in range.

Ventris wants to be attached to BGV’s right? I can’t think of another unit that’d really benefit from the deep strike more than BGV’s.

>>96532564
What is happening here?

>>96532579
It is just random numbers, doesn’t mean anything to me.

>>96532579
>>96532587
Samefagging loser do not respond to either of them pls!

>>96532563
Thought this was death guard

>>96532579
>>96532589
?

>>96532564
Why did you put the tiny kneepad transfers on the shoulders

>>96532563
Yeah I'm checking it now; individual teams (la'rua) are stuffed into a cadre (kau'ui), which if you take the organization chart quite literally pictorally means you're looking at about 12 teams in a cadre, plus the command team (probably not fixed).

That means broadly even if you had a massive cadre, twice or three times that, you can and are fitting an entire cadre onto a table if you're playing 2000 or 3000 points. That seems to make them analogous to Space Marine Companies, with coalition or communes reaching Space Marine Chapter size.

So I suppose what I'm getting at is: What? Clearly a garrison would have to be at least coalition or commune size for a planet, and even if that were ten, no a hundred cadres, you would be looking at 300 battlesuits teams on an entire planet, for an average of just under a thousand suits planetwide, counting small suits like the XV25 as well as large suits pushing up/down the number.

It means it would be trouble for a single Space Marine Chapter; or perhaps depending on who is writing or playing, a fair fight.

Posting my... cadre, apparently, or maybe half of it. It doesn't matter, they've been space pirates for centuries after the 4th expansion send-off party fucked up their shit.

>>96532600
Those are my bros, I will ask him.

>>96532604
Why are they grey still if they're from 4th edition

>>96532600
I fucked up on the transfers and ran out so I had to use the small ones

>>96532610
Your friend is a freak who should expire immediately

>>96532606
He did it twice

>>96532610
...don't pretend to be me, it will not end well for you.

>>96532608
... The 4th sphere expansion anon. The historical event where the tau fucked themselves in the ass with shiny new FTL engines and threw an entire expeditionary fleet into the warp.

>>96532579
Nazi shit. Decalfag had second thoughts after he got rinsed here.

>>96532606
>>96532610
What is going on here.

>>96532619
Stop posting the fake imagine with the Gay flag and tranny flag you twerp.

>>96532617
Oh cool

>>96532624
But it's the one you posted

>>96532186
He's gotta grow out of it eventually. I was a /pol/tard incel in my late teens, but my friends stuck with me and I'm a pretty normal person now. He's probably miserable and lonely which is what spurred him to be a /pol/tard in the first place.

>>96532628
Do you think people believe I actually posted that you imbecile?

>>96532631
You post a lot of pictures, it's hard to keep track of every decal and detail

>>96532637
When are we going to get a freehand schizo obsessed with stuffing freehand onto every surface of a mini to the point of just freehanding nonsense just for the sake of doing it and we can call him the Detailfag and he can be like batman if decalfag was the penguin or calender man or something

>>96532652
sallyman is based though

>>96532654
I do love a good sallyanon post. He's not brooding enough to be our antihero of freehand. Sallyanon is too nice

This is at least a 5 on review anons scale and nearly approaching a 7 desu.

>>96532680
Whoa I may be high but I did not write “desu” at the end there. Man that is creepy as fuck…

>>96532680
Your washes are still very inconsistent and flat surfaces very stained. Your also very messy with your drybrushing and your highlight are very messy. 4 at best. You need to focus on cleanliness and neatness next to move up to 5

>>96532682
Fucking weeb

>>96531369
the rhino kit for HH is superior to the og rhino, especially for chaos armys.

>>96532683
>"Low effort"
You little rat fuck

>>96530200 (OP)
How do you guys store and transfer your dudes?

>>96532680
>contrast and drybrush
come on man, this is what I do when I'm painting MoTMs for my kids

>>96532690
4 is some effort. Read again

>>96532694
There are these things with 4 sides with a top and bottom called boxes. You should check them out. They have changed the storage game...fuckin idiot..

>>96532699
There are these things in men’s pants with two balls and a shaft. They are made for procreation and waste removal yet you insist on swallowing 500 a day.

>>96532680
Looks cool dude.

>>96532711
ty king!

>>96532146
theres a strat they get that lets them set up a new one
>>96532128
get dark lance'd

>>96532694
I use magnet trays for tyranids and GW cases for marines

>>96532680
forever 4

I just signed up for my local 40k league. I'm excited to get to play some new people hopefully. Are you guys playing games?

>>96532723
Same anon. Same.

>>96532725
On the reg

>>96532721
Have you tried foam for tyranids? I’m worried about the scything talons

>>96532725
I wish. I cant paint with any degree of speed. I barely have 400 points painted up so far.

>>96532732
Take the point loss and play. It'll get you motivated to paint faster

>>96532732
Just imagine the 10 victory points though

>>96531890
>At the start of your Command Phase, if your Contract Unit is destroyed, that Contract is completed and you gain 3 Pain tokens
I'm assuming that is a one and done, and the contract being completed means you dont get 3 PT every command phase onwards?

>>96532736
yes. its fluffy but weak RAW

>>96532725
been getting back into to it with some mates, though its slow going as we play once a month of that
hopefully be a bit more regular going ahead, one of them wants to start up necromunda too

>>96532725
played a game yesterday, was fun (mostly for me though, i overwhelmed my opponent very early on)

ork bros, what do we think of the latest changes? does ghaz only take up 4 models now in a transport or am i reading it incorrectly?

>>96532683
I like what you’re doing but I think it should be amended so the offices he battle ready matches your battle ready

>>96532730
I havent. Im also afraid of bending their pointy bits.

>>96532694
>How do you guys store and transfer your dudes?
I use A-Case. All of my guys have magnets on their bases. I've travelled heaps with my army and never had anything break.

how big is the Saturnine dread compared to a Leviathan dread and/or Ghazghkull

>>96532759
Do you ever fly with them?

>>96532729
This game will die off simply because it's too expensive.

>>96532683
Using washes at all should disqualify you from anything higher than a 3.

>>96532771
Find the nearest cliff and consider it.

Fucking paintfags man.

>>96532774
By taking every little shitty shortcut you can, you not only lower the quality of your paintjobs but also you end up being this guy.

0w0
Notices your unthinned paints

>>96532791
>hating on "pachow" man
Ngmi

>>96532794
>teases ur mouldlines
OuO

>>96532791
Get pachowed on nomodels

>>96532791
>mfw using washes allows you to finish models in a timely manner compared to layerlets
>mfw excitement is maintained and compounds easier because of it leading to painting more
Oh fuck daddy I'm gonna fricking kachow

>>96532804
>>96532796
No need to samefag. You can use washes if you want to anon. It'll lead to ugly paintjobs, but if that's what you want, then go for it.

>>96532808
You can cope with your ugly paintjobs however you want to anon.

shit takes require you to post your models.

>>96532186
Sounds quite based. Every gamer I know is checked out or a leftist

>>96532814
Get pachowed

>>96532791
You’re one of those autistic people that doesn’t understand that his opinions aren’t objectively correct. Life’s tough when you’re a tard.

>>96532831
Are you stupid? Do you lack reading comprehension? I don't agree with anything that retard says. I'm saying taking the shitty shortcut for subpar quality is something he'd do.

Stop talking about painting. It only ever results in people being faggots. Talk about the game. What list are you running?

>>96532814
there's a right and a wrong way to use washes
but once you get to that point it's better to make your own oil washes anyway

>>96532839
As long as we're all in agreement that using washes automatically drops your mini to a 3 or below.

>>96532839
I am personally in the longest dry spell but i hope to recover with the Knight for the collage.

>>96532748
Yeah it's not godly changes but Ghaz (+Makari) and 6 MANZ take up 17 slots in a wagon now so there's room for 5 more infantry too or personally I'm thinking a loner megaboss
Ghaz with boyz is pretty huge, if they all get into something they can take out most stuff in the game the problem will be the large footprint
The huge change which we will see in every game now is split Mandos and cheap Snikrot

>>96532839
well im thinking about changing up my orks list now, still dont have ghaz despite playing war horde.

>>96532843
That looks terrible.

>>96532186
Befriending people and finding a common ground is actually very good way to deradicalise someone.
isolating people because of their beliefs is just going to make it worse, if you're already friends with this person besides their politics and you didn't find out until you added them on social media sounds like they at least know where to keep their shit.
And if he says fed-level shit just remind him that the communist little hats want us to kill eachother so they can ruleover whats left

>>96532843
actually, a thinned down carroburg crimson would blend those reds on the clothbits
every tool has a use and can be used wrong

>>96532849
You gonna cast da jump on him?

>>96532850
in what way you nomodels bitch?

>>96532848
ah yeah i forgot about the kommandos changes, it effectively gives us a cheap unit of infiltrators now. how does it work with the loadout, im assuming you split up the current unit and dont get access to 2 nobz, etc

>>96532855
wow thats a possibility, thats fucking hilarious although id imagine most players would be able to screen out a unit as big as ghaz + 10 boyz minimum

>>96532856
She doesn't have a head.

>>96532839
Lads I'm bringing it back

>>96532186
ive got friends like that from either side of the spectrum (both political and tism) and honestly i just try not to bring any of that shit up, once they notice im not overly invested in it they tend to stop, they usually dont bring it up at the lgs as even for the most autistic of players they know better

>>96532860
You can give him +2 to charge too, 7 inch with a reroll would be around 82%

>>96532854
I think glazing with any sort of "wash" or citadel shade" is retarded. Citadel shades are made to seep into the recesses and that is not how light works see>>96532377
It's better to thin and glaze with literally anything else.

>>96532859
Yeah you are still taking the regular unit you choose how to allocate the models and tokens how you like, ie a melee squad w Nob and ram and flamer with the bomb squig, a range squad with the shootas and rokkit and the distraction grot etc etc

>>96532868
citadel shades are just paint with more medium in them, they are essentially glazes
the way the heavy metal style has told people to use them is wrong, that's all

>>96532867
i did that yesterday with a weirdboy + breakas and im glad i did, even with getting rerolls to charges i just managed to get a 7. that strat seems essential for anyone using a weirdboy imo

>>96532843
I dont give a shit about your scale. Its not the scale I use so its shit.

>>96532862
Ghaz, 10 Nobz and 1 of the Busta squads will be riding in the Wagon. Pirates in the Trukk.

>>96532875
It's not medium, at least not the binder holding the pigment and water together. It's something closer to dish soap or flow improver that is breaking the surface tension of the paint. That's what helps it seep into the recesses.

>>96532869
looks like im gonna have to start painting my kommandos, even before the buffs i was still having fun so being an ork player is going to be comfy as fuck

>>96532843
I think this looks really neat, very stylized. It didn't really land on the shins though.

>>96532862
interesting list, what is the big mek going with? oh this is a taktikal brigade list isnt it

>>96532880
it's literally medium, you can buy it yourself from citadel
they sell both lahmian medium (what makes washes) and contrast medium, you can then turn any citadel paint into a wash or contrast if you want
it doesn't seep into the recesses the same way tamiya panel liner or any real oil wash would, though, with the capillary flow

>>96532862
What detachment? Honestly I hate Breakas without a warboss they always whiff without one

How thicc do you prefer your marines?

>>96532889
Yeah he’s blasting and giving a 4++ when they get out to shoot. Don’t think the buffs will make a big power difference but they probably improve the fun level.

>>96532891
Sorry it’s Taktiks and they’ll be Bustas. Lot of anti melee in my meta so I want to try this out first.

>>96532892
This shit is so ass.

>>96532896
havent played taktikal yet, ive got the shit for it though.

>Don’t think the buffs will make a big power difference but they probably improve the fun level

im thinking the same, theres no huge changes apart from the ghaz transport capacity but with 5 squads of kommandos, points reductions in shit that will be played more often at least it will make the end of 10 ed fun for ork players

>>96532680
that's a 3.5

>>96532680
Thats a 2. You need to put away the airbrush.

>>96532904
Yeah the points are partially rolled back nerfs or to units that will never be good with the current data sheet like Squig Hogz. Happy to see the Kommando and Ghaz transport changes though because those design choices seem likely to carry into future editions.

>>96532900
Sick. Have you played a lot? Personally I've found SAG meks perform better in their role as vehicle threateners with Bustas. But Lootas are also equally valid if that's your thing

Since when did we turn into /orkg/?

>>96532915
I just made it after the changes to get the Ghaz wagon out. I can try swapping the SAG bodyguards because it’s the same list either way. Have the Kaptin and redeploy enhancements too.

>>96532837
I am directly addressing what you are considering shortcuts. I’m saying you’re a tard. The fact you didn’t understand what I meant confirms the autism. It gets better man just try to be more flexible you can do it!

>>96532630
My dude he is 38

>>96532950
Life must be hard for you huh tard?

>>96532912
N

>>96532680
>basecoat
>wash
>inconsistent chalky drybrush
>some details not even basecoated
>base is just a thin layer of texture paste and a random tuft with no attempt to integrate the tactical rock

that's a 4 at best if I'm being generous
objectively it's a 3.5

>>96532984
Using a wash disqualifies it from being anything above a 3.

>>96532989
not how the reviewanon scale works, fuck off retard

>>96532991
Nah those are the rules. Sorry anon.

Paintfags go die

>>96532998
>Nah those are the rules.
nope~
lurk moar tourist

did the anon that keeps shitting on washes post his models yet?

>>96533003
No. Its just one of our regular trolls baiting

Besides Citadel cans what other brands are reliable for priming with cans? I still need to find a dark brown rattlecan that isnt shit

>>96533025
Colour forge
Pro acryl
Vallejo
Rust-Oleum (don't get the paint & primer cans, just the normal non filler primer)

>>96533025
Army painter sucks I can tell you that. It basically just makes a hazy cloud

>>96533029
Thanks, local has some Vallejo and Army Painter so Vallejo it is then
>>96533030
For shame cause their paints arent even that bad

>>96532880
>retard nomodels giving painting advice without knowing what medium is

>>96533025
Premier cans from Canadian tire are quite smooth but kinda glossy but I've sprayed them in -38c all the way up to 37c and they lay dead smooth and identically every time

>>96532680
Stinky 2 lawl, here come the flies

>dark eldar book is tiny with dogshit rules
James is trying to kill the army off

>>96531290
It is indeed a very cool model.

>>96531408
These are actually better painted than this one here >>96531398 as it’s just “wear and tear” just looks like crap speckled on the model.

>>96532839
Gonna try a goofy 2k speed freeks list.

>>96531369
30k models in 40k are BASED.

>replying to yourself after 8 hours
pathetic