Thread 96546045

One shitty sword Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96537731

>Official AoS website:
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>Tools
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https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

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https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question:
Which HoH subfaction is the coolest so far?

>TQ
Dont know but im gonna put a spin on the shyish ones and give them lots of skulls

is what I would say if the box wasnt still out of stock

>>96546052
>GW has another week of articles lined up for a box that's already out of stock
Classic

>>96546045 (OP)
>>Thread question:
>Which HoH subfaction is the coolest so far?
The kraken ones

>>96546045 (OP)
I like muspelzharr, mainly due to their scheme

>>96546084
What about fluff?

>>96546090
I haven't seen that much posted about them compared to the other 3, but they seem to be the most focused on artifice and mining and shit, which is all pretty good classic dwarfery. I liked that little fluff piece where they blow up a mountain to trap and bury a bunch of golden bonerboys and essentially mine their corpses

>>96546090
None of the review 'tubers showed it.

>>96546141
how many "review 'tubers" showed fluff?

Assuming Mosscairn isn't the name of an upcoming Warcry/Underworlds release, I hope it's Mordheim but AoS. Age of Mordheim, if you will.

>>96546300
its rumored to be a warhammer quest title, for better or worse.

Warhammer quests have all been great games. cursed city had a cursed released but i bet that was great fun too if u managed to get a hand on it.

>>96546322
really is the edition of the dwarf, eh?

>>96546321
Cursed City had some other problems besides its rather cursed release but the models and tone were good.

HELP KIND ANONS!

I am looking for video where GW emplyees, maybe mini designers, where going over original Warcry warbands such as Splintered Fang, Unmade and Cypher Lords and commenting them.

This video was maybe stream released on their Warhammer Twitch profile years ago but I can no longer find it.

They had other Warcry videos and streams out covering when the Warcry game was just being released and all of that appears to be deleted. Nothing on YouTube or Twitch.

>>96546330
About time, fuckers were neglected categorically for almost 10 years straight as a species. KO and fyreslayers got almost nothing but a few pity heroes in the last decade until just last month and dispossessed got actual nothing and then eventually squatted, and until a month ago chorfs were squatted too.

It was starting to feel like an elf was writing the game

>>96546322
Next issue of White Dwarf would have been the final part of the Dispossessed/Wanderer series, so makes sense that it ends on some kind of teaser.

>>96546401
True, Fyreslayers and KO were both early 1E armies, it's been a long ass time waiting for GW to give Dwarfs any love since then.

>>96546359
I fucking hate how gw is deleting all of their shit for no reason. I can’t even find their old trailers.

>>96546434
>old mengel tutorials on WarCom pruned
>search doesn't even work anyway after the website shift
clowns

>>96546466
their website's search function never fucking worked anyway

>>96546434
They're not deleting them, just unlisting. They're still there if you have the link. My advice is to look at them at pages like BoLS or Spikeybits or even Natfka blog. They often have embedded videos in their articles.

Bro
https://youtu.be/Ywc6oXKpJe0?feature=shared

>>96546568
oh yeah I watched that yesterday.
Biggest things to take away was that he was inspired what not to do with 4th edition boarding patrol or whatever dumb it was, and that he wanted to give the player a decent feedback loop

>>96546568
spearhead is GWs most well designed game in a while and they got rid of the guy that designed it ??????????????????????????????????????????????

>>96546585
GW is incompetent and doesn't treat their creative staff well
Unrelated, but RPG reviewers have got access to the Champions of Chaos PDF for Soulbound
>https://professionalcasual.com/2025/09/12/rpg-review-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-soulbound-champions-of-chaos/

>>96546594
you don't know why he left idiot, he said nothing but positive things about his experience there.

Awesomesauce

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ivmvh69w/warhammer-day-brings-a-new-commemorative-chaos-champion-and-a-space-marine-captain/

>>96546655
>>96546664
Not bad, does this check off any rumour engines?

>>96546655
You just know he bought that sword

>>96546655
>champion
But not a lord? Weird.

>>96546568
Rob was shitting on it and said the comments were harsh.
I watched it, it's kind of a nothing burger or 'babys first game design' but the comments are overwhelmingly positive.
I don't know what The Faggot Wargamer's problem is

>>96546594
> Opening of the video he states he had a positive experience at the design studio and that his channel will be pro Warhammer and a positive one
Dude did you even watch the video

>>96546673
nope
the rumor engines list is quite boring nowadays

>>96546655
Real cool model. Gives me old Archaon vibe.

Lmo at 40k gettign another primaris lieutenant

>>96546693
Well yeah, he's got a Champion's weapons, one-hander and shield

>>96546655
> Exalted Hero
The nigga looks like a unit champion and you only get a helmet swap.
Very low effort

>>96546785
The current Exalted Hero also isn't overly decorated. I guess you have to hit at least Chosen before you get some real trim

>>96546045 (OP)
>Which HoH subfaction is the coolest so far?
there arent any rules for subfactions, so who cares

>>96546655
Is this what the kids call aura

>>96546729
just remove it already

>>96546416
Is there anywhere I can read those stories easily

>>96546729
>Spider skull
Leaving it in feels cruel when we all know it's not coming

>>96546914
How old is it now? I remember there was one that took like three years to get scratched off

>>96546903
They were all posted in older threads, that's all I can do for you.

TLDR they were titled something like Trials of Albarak and were about a Dispossessed Dwarf named Albarak who had to complete a series of difficult challenges for his king, and had Grombrindal around to help him each time. As of the last issue Albarak finally just fucking murdered his king (who was an asshole) and had dispossessed and fyreslayers alike chanting his name as he claimed the throne for himself.

battlescroll next wednesday, the app update is in the pipe

obscuring is being changed to restrict visibility for enemies over 9" from you, rather than enemies outside of combat range

cities big point nerfs (command corps, cavaliers, cannons, enhancements)
dok big point nerfs (krethusa + shrine + witches + sisters)
KO big point nerfs (basically all their infantry)
kruleboyz big point nerfs (gutrippaz, monstakillaz, boltboyz, and enhancements)

if youre expecting a lot of changes to your army then be prepared for disappointment. its mostly nerfs to overperforming armies while other armies are mostly unchanged... but there is a lot of green changes for seraphon, stormcast, and ironjawz

scourge of ghyran errata are not in the main document so i dont know what theyre changing, but i assume zenestra is being erratad since her points didnt change. i hope they change nighthaunt and FEC warscrolls to match their books.

no changes to FEC or nighthaunt, i guess their books are too new? so get ready for 3 months of ghoul spam dominating the meta

So Hammerhal Aqsha is fucked right? The Skaven and Chorf empires are scouring the adamantine chain of all the dwarves while reaching further inland and there’s still Khuls jackasses rampaging the territories within the chain. I don’t see what forces Order has to counter that. The stormies are battered and literally broken
The Dawnbringer crusades were largely a failure or completely invalidated by the skaven
The dwarves are getting exterminated
Ghyra isn’t sending any reinforcements anytime soon despite being in a largely better situation
Also isn’t that new Varanguard headquarters on the great parch now? Lmaoo

>>96546986
let them come

>>96546594
>Unrelated, but RPG reviewers have got access to the Champions of Chaos PDF for Soulbound
More news but still NO RELEASE DATE >>>:(

https://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/who-are-the-champions-of-chaos

>>96546359
>>96546434
I used to simp and mod for a twitch streamer.
Couple years ago Twitch had a big change and deleted almost all archived VoDs, not really GWs fault.

>96546980
fuck off

>>96546986
>Also isn’t that new Varanguard headquarters on the great parch now? Lmaoo
If you mean Abraxia's new HQ then no, that's in Ghyran.

>>96547016
>Twitch
You know we're talking about their Youtube channel, right?

>>96547020
Huh coulda swore that amber mountain was in Aqsha. Then again I’m probably getting confused because of the whole melting it with Phoenix Fire thing

>>96546986
Hammerhal aqshy is the size of a small country itself, it's like tokyo sized. It's still quite a way's away from the chain too, there some other cities like edassa in the way. They'll be fine, at most they'll have to withstand a siege like excelsis, or lethis for the tenth time this month.

>>96547012
C7 don't give release dates, they just release the book.
If we have people releasing Reviews, I would guess the PDF release is sometimes this week.

>>96547052
You might be confusing Blackpyre (formerly the Phoenicium) with Embergard, both cities that were fucked by Chaos in the Dawnbringers campaign finale.

>>96546986
No, but afaik every other city is getting nuked

>>96546655
>that confident pose
>the broad shoulders with a HUGE cape swinging in the wind

>>96547078
GW is still probably trying to run damage control on the fact that half their canon cities are fully based around squatted subfactions and have no other reason to exist. No doubt we'll get plenty of new, entirely human Dawnbringer cities in the future.

>>96546998
Update him to be a steelhelm but yuh

What list building website/app do you guys use? The official app is paywalled and apparently not very good to use.

>>96547145
it's fine and you can make one list at a time for free

>>96547145
i just memorize the point values and hero restrictions and use a simple spreadsheet to make lists

>>96547145
Listbot

>>96547023
>This video was maybe stream released on their Warhammer Twitch profile years ago but I can no longer find it.
Read the original Anons message and recoil in shame.

>>96547153
> T. Warhammer Plus cuck
Once the book is released you can't even see the scrolls corpo cuck. Also consider the noose or maybe go back to r*ddit
And this is clearly not spam faggot 4chan FUCK JANNYS

>>96547177
you're talking about list building not warscrolls
>make list
>copy
>remove
>make another

>>96547016
Lmao which one?
Glad you got over your mental illness and parasocial relationship

>>96547184
I don't want to share because they were trans

>>96547177
sup retard

>>96547145
I haven’t used it yet, but this is a new one.
https://www.scrollcaster.app/

>>96547198
>twitch simping
>twitch simping for a man
get it the fuck together man

>>96547177
> Doubles
Based

I'm really liking the Ur-Zorn & Zharr Vyxa paint schemes. The models look good in bright colors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxEz7CUZuOc

>>96547198
Yikes bro
I'm glad the Magic Mike Pence shock therapy worked

>>96546986
>So Hammerhal Aqsha is fucked right?
No, if anything that's the only aqshyan city we can be sure will survive

>>96546434
>>96546466
>>96546526
>>96547016

So probably no way to see those videos on Warhammer YouTube and streams on Warhammer offical Twitch?

Any other way to find them?

Shame, they had several videos, each almost 1 hour showing then brand new original six Warcry warbands, going over aesthetics and lore.

>>96547249
>pic related
>flesh beard.jpg

>>96547249
Bright red and gold feels wrong for helsmiths, it's way too heroic of a color scheme for such an evil race.

>>96547349
It's the old chaos dwarf scheme from WHFB. And probably one that a lot of people are gonna use for HoH for that reason. Personally I will either copy the black and yellow scheme or the purple and black one featured in the warcom post a few days ago.

>>96547365
I think my issue is there's too much gold and not enough black. If it was primary red/black with just gold accents it would look right.

>>96546729
I'm gonna make a bit, 3 is ogor, 4 is some vamp shit, 6-14 i'm gonna bet is the supposed mosscairn warhammer quest.

I'm betting mix of Ghyran dudes, elves, human hedge witch, kurnoth, maybe big tree lad and then some various weird nurgle dudes.

>>96547382
This was something I considered as well. Only keep the armor trim gold, red for the rest of the metals, black cloth.

>>96547389
I would be incredibly buttmad if there was a WHQ set in Ghyran and there were no sylvaneth in there.

>>96547396
I'll be honest I'm not sure the difference between wood elves, Sylvaneth, and Kurnoth stuff. BUT this arrow kinda looks like the syl arrows, I figured Kurnoth was sylvaneth?

>>96547396
>realm = faction
abloobloo

I have a lore question about daemon princes and demons in aos in general. In 40k demons usually can't manifest and remain in reality for too long , but what about in aos? Can daemon princes and other demons walk around the mortal realms without issue or they still face the same problem?

>>96547420
I think it's about the same, they need magic to keep themselves operating so they can't just exist in perpetuity?

>>96547420
They have to come back to warp at some point. The Slaanehs purple horse things specifically said they can stay material for unusually long, so there must be things that are here shorter.
And Cursling's familiar can be a demon looking for a quick and easy way to exist in the Materium.

I assume corruption of the land either extends their timer or it doesn't tick if the land is fucked enough though

>>96547439
I was coming up with lore for my slaves to darkness warband, and i initially decided they would be located in Ghur mainly defending a chaos stronghold from beasts and orks, and i wanted my daemon prince to be the one leading the group, but then i remembered about this point. If that would be a problem a chaos lord will do for a leader with the prince being an overseer instead.

>>96547420
the metaphysics are the same, demons cannot exist in realspace unless there's enough magic to sustain their forms, that's usually from a summoning circle, or from a sacrifice or artifact of some kind, most often is thanks to the energies of chaos flowing freely from a tear in the veil of reality or a portal into the realm of chaos.
In aos magic is saturating the landscapes much more heavily, so demons have a much simpler time existing, but even then, a realmgate into the chaoslands helps.

>>96547516
>my demon prince rules the warand, but he requires a steady stream of human sacrifices from pillaged lands to not leave
>something his treacherous 2nd in comand mortal wants to use to his advantage one day

>>96547516
I mean you could come up with reasoning for the daemon prince being a round, I was just reading some Gotrek and Felix and a daemon gets summoned and bound to some cannons that were made with iron infused with warpstone/ashes of chaos sorcerers. The daemon sucked up a bunch of corpses to make a corporeal form and then couldn't be dispelled because it was bound to the realms and a physical object kinda like a pseudo phylactery.

>>96547249
Im a kike so I feel obligated to get the evil Hebrew dwarves

>>96547249
Rust scheme must go hard on these guys

>>96547559
they aren't hebrew you filthy appropriator

From WD #516 from Grombrindal voice

>I am hesitant to say this next part, for it concerns one whose name I would prefer not to utter. But lest us not forget the one who stoked the ire in Grimnir and whose actions led, in part, to his fateful doom. The so-called Father in Darkness, Hashut. Even in the days before he broke with the pantheon, greed was his defining trait. As one of the elder ancestors, he was once held in awe, but now his name is synonymous with shame and betrayal. Aye, he has no respect for the land or for wholesome craft. I believe he resented Grungni and hated Grimnir, and though he has disappeared from all sight, the earth speaks to me of something stirring in the darkness once more.”

>”Nagash never did appreciate the little things, always overlooked what was beneath him. And in the case of his grand scheme, it was the wretched thaggoraki that undid his rite. Aye, there were gheists and ghasts aplenty, all stirred up and a-bluster. I took care in my wanderings and laid more than my share to rest. Gazul had wisely retreated behind defences that only he or my older sister could fathom, and so Nagash was thwarted in his encroachments into our underworlds. I hear he is vanquished. Again. That the aelf twin got him. I hope it sticks. But he's come back more times than a rash on a troggoth's rump. I doubt it's the last I'll see of him, more's the pity.”

>>96547606
there also this part where talk about Malerion

>Nothing has even been what it seems and this has never been more true than of the lord who dwells in shadow, Malerion.

I met with him once, before he sequestered himself to stygian depths even I cannot penetrate. Such ostensible warmth I have never known, and all the delicacies of his realm were arrayed for my enjoyment. We spoke of rifts long past and of a unified future. I sensed something had changed in the aelven god of shadow. I have a nose for falsehood - as well as fine ale, heh - and could only hear sincerity in his frank words, yet I remain cautious. Is it too much to believe he has found some measure of honour? I allowed myself to hope before I made my excuses and left, wrapped in my wanderer's cloak.

>>96547606
>I hear he is vanquished. Again

One of these fuckin' days Nagash is gonna get a win, ONE OF THESE DAYS

>>96547638
>Nagash hasn't had a huge dub since the time Sigmar whooped his ass in the World-That-Was

>>96547593
>>96547559
>hook nosed
>curly hair
>owned slaves
>evil
>consider others of their race beneath them
I wouldn't have made the connection, but if that's what you identify with

>>96547656
Unironically sigmar might have given him brain damage and turned him into a saturday morning cartoon villain.

>>96547620
I seriously doubt Malerion is entirely on the up and up here, but it might be an indicator that he'll be fully an Order God when he returns and not straight up a bad guy.

How are you guys feeling about the chorf lore so far? I'm pleasantly surprised, seems fairly interesting and has some good hooks. I also like the mention of some more ancestor gods.
>>96547726
I hope they don't just make him malekith but in aos, but I also don't want him full goody two shoes.

>>96547537
>>96547558
I think i get it now, so the reasoning can be: The daemon prince was put in charge of the defense of a chaos stronghold in Ghur, and he can stay corporeal thanks to the corruption present in the land and an magical artifact bound to the stronghold, but if he wants to venture further away he will need to find other ways to remain manifested for longer.

Besides him, the warband has a chaos sorcerer (that is 100% waiting for a opportunity to seize control of the warband) and an ogroid myrmidon, who is there mainly to make sure the other two are doing their jobs, and because he fucking hates orks and they are aways attacking the stronghold (there are a lot of ork players in my lgs).

>>96546986
Perfect opportunity for Har Kuron to step up and be the beacon of civilization in the world, humans dwarves and non-dark elves need not apply

>>96547737
that dwarf is stoned out of his fucking mind.

>>96547742
good shit anon, always fun hearing the lore people come up with.

Age of Sigmar

>>96547737
>I hope they don't just make him malekith but in aos, but I also don't want him full goody two shoes.
I expect he'll definitely be edgy. It's more just that they delayed him so long, and made him out to be so treacherous and scheming (and apparently maybe a Chaos God at some point) that having him just straight up be an antagonist seemed at least on the table. Like I wouldn't have been surprised to see a SC vs Dark Elves starter box.

But with this tidbit I could see him being just a slightly edgier Order God, dangerous but no worse than Morathi or IDK and capable of allying with the other order armies normally.

>>96547737
>How are you guys feeling about the chorf lore so far? I'm pleasantly surprised, seems fairly interesting and has some good hooks.
It's good, but it's too little, the battletomes, codexes and journals gw makes nowadays are absolutely pathetic as sourcebooks about a faction.

>>96547764
>man this gromril ore aint sh-

>>96547516
demon princes ruling mortal warbands are already notorious enough for having a firmer grasp onto the mortal plane of existence because they're former mortals (so more attuned to how real shit works) and because their tribesmen's worship can act as a sort of anchor for them.

Im so happy people likes HoH. They may not be perfect, but they are good. Good product, happy players, great day.

>>96547838
>but they are good. Good product
Let's not exaggerate now, the kits look over 10 years old already out of the gate, some designs, like for the blunderbusses, are utterly insulting, and the limits gw imposes for the lines' crosscompatibility has forced them to waste a kit for hobgrots leaving the range sorely in need of a second wave already.

Out of all factions in both aos and 40k I still am convinced FEC is the most grimdark personally, I'm so glad they ended up getting such a good refresh and additional units

>>96547891
>sorely in need of a second wave already
Okay this I don't get. They have all the basics covered. What army role is unfilled by their units at launch and that they have a pressing need to fill ASAP?

>>96547891
Nta but what makes you say the kits look 10 years old already?
As for the range I think they honestly did a pretty good job making basically every kit a dual build one, makes the army a lot deeper than usual. Still, some more warmachines and kdaai or llamasu would be appreciated.
Agree on the blunderbusses, they look like ass.

>>96547928
a centerpiece that isn't a hero is usually a very good thing for a range of models especially because their big hero centerpiece doesn't lend itself to being taken in multiples, had they replaced the sizes between the dominator engine and the winged taurus this wouldn't have been an issue.
Furthermore, chaos dwarfs, notorious for their big artillery pieces, have one of the smallest being sold in aos at the moment, so a bigger piece will be felt as needed, especially with the popular appreciation of evil dwarfs being "trains", regardless or whether you think hoh should be distinct from their past.
People will also soon enough ask for a bull centaur hero to build an army that focuses on straightforward bull violence, since centaurs seem to be one of the best received models and lend themselves to a fresher extreme of the army's normal unit composition, which aos has always nurtured.

These are the 3 things I think they absolutely need.

>>96547928
They're kind of boring.

>>96547638
>>96547656
He won the soul wars lmaoo
Between starting malign portents, malign sorcery, forbidden power, and the freeing of Katakros his literally got to do everything he wanted except his pyramid. IIRC that mountain in Hysh still has death AIDS

>>96547620
Wasn’t Malekith friends with the white dwarf in prehistory WFB or was that some other guy

>>96547992
NTA I don’t think you know what the word need means

>>96548058
>He won the soul wars lmaoo

He really didn't, the plan was to instantly kill everyone everywhere which failed horribly. He got blown up by Teclis, Archaon needs resurrecting again, he's gotta re-gather power, a few of his mortarchs are once again plotting against him. Also necroquake got completely reversed by Teclis magical good happy smile wave. (hence why underworlds is exponentially less cool since it's not a bunch of psychos who can't die beating the shit out of each other forever and no one can die)

>>96547928
They don't have any actually cool war machines
They need something like the Skullcracker or Hellcannon — something absurd and/or esoteric

>>96548086
And don't post the fucking midget bull; it sucks.

>>96548099
i think he's kinda cute

>>96548073
There're more than one steps on the ziggurat of needs, man.

>>96548109
Best boy. Dont be mean with the doggy >:( its the only good model in that underworlds team.

>>96548086
Its so necessary I was sure there was going to be a second reveal before the bt came out.

I HATE THE ULTRAMARINES SECOND COMPANY SND CHAPTWR MASTER MARNEUS CALGAR
I HATE THE ULTRAMARINES SECOND COMPANY AND CHAPTER MASTER MARNEUS CALGAR
I HATE THE ULTRAMARINES SECOND COMPANY AND CHAPTER MASTER MARNEUS CALGAR

>>96548176
This is Age of Sigmar, dumbass. We dont care about your copy-paste recolor slop marines.

>>96547911
FEC are amazing concept. One of best things GW ever produced. That being said, they need a proper second wave. Range refresh, new units.

Also, I would love more courty figures such as Abhorrant or Ghoul Lady of Lake, Jester, Court Bard, Handmaidens, Cooks.

>>96548176
I've been baited

>>96548176
Lmao 40kek

>>96548193
More of them? Hardly, the refresh didn't even sell, the battleforce and army box are still available all over the place.

>>96548193
>Cooks
You already got those in Underworlds.

>>96548193
>Cooks
we got those with the underworlds team. I just don't think GW did anything else with them.

>>96548176
THE GREAT DECEIVER

>>96548193
FEC should have a snippet of lore saying how ogre gorgers and ogre butchers are perfectly fine with them and converse with the ghouls through their delusions without issues.

For the sole reason of having those 2 types of ogres as regiment of renown in a fec army.

>>96548204
FEC refresh did not sell well?

>>96548193
Having a faction with great models but fluff you don't particularly like is fine
Having a faction with great stellar fluff that feels absolutely top tier and made for your tastes but the models all look like just generic ghouls and rats is absolutely devastating
I jsut wish they were more... overdressed and knightly... I don't mean that they should look like actual knights but give them tin can rusty armor, make them wear buckets on their heads that they believe are enchanted shining helms, make them dress in skin and remains of humans believing its fine cloth and so on. Plenty of models like that one judge one I can't recall the name of rn are on point with what I mean but most of the time you will be spending your time painting naked ghouls in various sorts of attack or jumping poses. Im glad GW seems to be mocing towards the more courtly direction for the faction and your idea is absolutely on point for it but as it stands the models feel kinda boring compared to how great the fluff is

Yayyy got the rest of the nurgle stuff I wanted, also picked up a Slimux! Gonna see if I can get some big bases to make up some beasts of nurgle from the old gellerpox I have sitting around.

>>96548204
> the refresh didn't even sell
?? What are you talking about? No one was playing FEC before the refresh, and now a lot of people play them.

>>96548211
GW really dropped the ball not giving them a cauldron to cook and/or a plate with different "snacks" for tasting.

>>96548339
>and now a lot of people play them.
are these people in the room with us?

Why is it that 40k players let the Space Marines live in their heads rent-free, but I almost never see AoS players care about Stormcasts aside from new editions and their start boxes?

>>96548232
i use gorgers as crypt horrors

>>96548367
I play 'em I know there's at least 2 other people in these threads that play 'em. But no I wouldn't say they're like "super popular" unless they're like really good and then I'm sure people pick them up to win tourneys or some stupid shit.

>>96548382
As you should.

>>96548369
Because people that want fantasy won't really care about armor dudes while sci fi fags will universally cream themselves over super soldiers

>>96548369
Because Stormcasts aren't capable of being pushed as hard as space marines so it's not like there's the "I AM THE STORMCAST ETERNAL GUY" and while Stormcasts get lots of units we haven't had the "lieutenant" shit since 1st and 2nd edition knight questors being pumped out en masse.

>>96548369
because space marines are only popular due to the founder effect and massive pushes from gw
they tried to recreate the magic with stormcasts, but no matter how you try to claim age of sigmar is new and separate
it isn't the 80s anymore and the founder effect already took place in fantasy

if space marines didn't exist during rogue trader but were introduced in 8th edition, then they would have failed to take root exactly, if not even worse, than stormcasts did

>>96548369
>Why is it that 40k players let the Space Marines live in their heads rent-free
What does this even mean?
And Stormcast got dunked on as "Fantasy Marines" since their inception, the community just has gotten used to it.

>>96548369
A better question:
Why do we colloquially call them "stormcasts" instead of "eternals"? Both terms are found in their full name, but while with stuff like ossiarch bonereapers people switch from calling them just ossiarchs or just bonereapers indiscriminately, with stormcast eternals we only ever call them just stormcasts and never just eternals, despite being a much less cringy name for them.

>>96548405
Haven't they done that by trying to bring back warhammer fantasy characters as stormcasts though? Sure it makes sense but it feels like the dame character baity "I recognise him!" Star Wars shit than anything that adds to the setting because the ones that actually came back and made an impact didn't do so as stormcast replicas of characters from the empire of man and a couple other nations

>>96548468
As far as I know the only time it's really been done is Gelt, and even then he never got a unique model or anything special. Felix still hasn't come back, Celestant prime we still don't have any clue who the fuck he's supposed to be. If you wanna name any that have come back and been named relevant characters and gotten minis fire away but I really don't think there's any but Gelt.

>>96548447
I think eternals is just a bit too generic

>>96548490
This
It's like how "Leagues of Votann" is shortened to "Votann" and not "Leagues"

>>96548490
since when has that stopped people? it's not like people don't also colloquially called soulblight just vampires, or flesh eater courts just ghouls, or nighthaunt just ghosts, or gloomspite just goblins or sylvaneth just trees

>>96548369
If you're asking why they didn't catch on to the extent spess marines did, imo the biggest reason (aside from founder effect like the other guy said) is that they're both very samey and already have a defined aesthetic. Ironically for aos the yourdudes opportunity is a lot more diminished. They're always going to be vaguely greco-roman knights, you can't make them vampires, vikings, edgy goths, egyptians, etc. like you can with space marines. Space marines are much more blank slate-y in design.
If you're asking why the rest of the playerbase doesn't dislike stormies as much as the non-marine players do marines, it's because outside of edition launches they don't really get much, it's not like half the game is just stormcast subfactions who each clamour for releases like 40k.
>>96548447
Eternals is way too generic, stormcast you immediately know who you're talking about

>>96548507
goblns are goblins, ghouls are ghouls, Eternals are uhhh eternal? Oh you mean nagash the eternal necromancer? No, Kroak the eternal slaan?
You should understand this.

>>96548532
>Eternals is way too generic
There aren't that many factions you are going to confuse them with by calling them eternals.

>>96548543
I'm not even really talking about factions within the game, 'eternals' is just a very generic name that could apply to 100s of characters or groups of characters from all kinds of media, while stormcast is very specifically gw's golden boys. Some other guy gave a leagues of votann analogy which illustrates it well.

>>96548538
>Oh you mean nagash the eternal necromancer? No, Kroak the eternal slaan?
Neither was ever called that way, cmon, it's like believing people would be pedantic when you refer to chaos factions or undead factions by mistaking them for anyone that causes and revesl in mayhem (goblins) or anyone that looks like a zombie (nurgle)

>>96548369
There's 20 flavors of space marine special boys, there's only one stormcasts. If Joe Thundercock from the Flavortown Chamber gets released, people go "cool dude guy", if John Lightningdick from the Buttfisters chapter of space marines gets released, the fans of the Footsniffers will cry and go "WE HAVEN'T HAD A NEW KIT IN A YEAR EXCEPT FOR THE ONE WE DID GET WHICH WAS ASS"

>>96548543
like the other anon said, there's a million works of fiction with a group called "eternals" but theres only one stormcast.

>>96548507
you're trying to complicate something simple, anon, and i have to wonder if you're refusing to see reason.

as the other anon said, "eternals" is far too generic to be descriptive of a particular faction. "stormcast" is both just as snappy and more specifically descriptive.

you list a bunch of factions, but generally people call those factions by their specific names far more often than these vague alternative terms you're throwing around.

>>96548369
plenty of tourist come in here and complain about them.

>>96548578
>>96548583
but people already use plenty of generic terms for all the other factions without a single issue

it's just with stormcasts that for some reason the more generic sounding name never caught on even within the community

>>96548489
its never been done, its made up.

>>96548599
>bro never learned about forced memes
let's try this a different way, since you're clearly struggling. what reason would anyone have to call them eternals instead of stormcast?

>>96548369
Space marines make up over 50% of all the factions and units in 40k, Spacemarines ARE 40k. While stormcast is the most popular faction in AoS, They only make up a little under 10% of all players of AoS. There's a lot more going on and a wider range of appealing options besides "big armored dudes".
>captcha PR4DK

Bros do we have any hints whats gonna be this year chrismas boxes? I want to get into AoS and those boxes looks like a nice entry

>>96548615
I’m expecting them to be Army of Renown themed.

>>96547838
I'm shocked how much I like them. I had Dwarfs in WHFB, and some shitty makeshift Chorfs right before the end times. I was so scared they'd fuck up the AoS-ification.
My AoS army is KO, but I've never been completely happy with them. Almost started Nighthaunt, Fyreslayers, OBR, Sylvaneth AND Kruleboyz.
There was always something rubbing me the wrong way with them, be it playstyle, mandatory minis or uninspired lore.
HoH feels the AoS faction I've been waiting for since late 1st ed FINALLY has arrived. Playstyle can do classic heavy castleing, but AoS' rules and your army mechanic pushes you away from that passive playstyle. The versatile rosters lets you play cav, mass chaff, and mounted heroes.
The lore is as respectable as could be with a chaos faction, and is metal as fuck. They kept all the aspects I liked about Dwarfs and Chorfs.

I was not expecting them to be such a homerun for me at all.

>>96548369
When you actually read the fluff the primitive market strategy is obscured. Obviously SCE come from the idea of porting space marines to fantasy but they've done something different with them. It's like people crying about Space Orcs & Goblins or Space Elves in 2025.
Stormcast aren't even prominent in campaign books and such or the narrative on the whole so their starter box dominance isn't even a big deal imo.. Meanwhile Space Marines are the only narrative in 40k

>>96548615
I'm going to guess SC, Skaven, Gitmob, Soulblight

>>96548613
It's a less cringeworthy and more organic term.

>>96546980
oh and obscuring no longer works on WAR MACHINE
so cauldrons and cannons cant hide in woods any more

>>96548643
>It's a less cringeworthy and more organic term.
according to whom

>>96548643
>more organic
It's the second word in the name, and it's a generic term that applies to a million other things, it doesn't make more sense to call them eternals. You just don't like stormcast as a name, which is fine

>>96548634
>Stormcast aren't even prominent in campaign books and such or the narrative on the whole
GW tried to have everything revolve around them for quite some years at the start of aos, until everyone felt utter revulsion and gw was pushed to try fixing them 3 times, and then finally putting them aside, as you say.

Is Gitmob and Troggoths a good mix? Should I throw some Fellwaters in with Droggz or use a Dankhold/Trugg?

>>96548614
>Space marines make up over 50% of all the factions and units in 40k, Spacemarines ARE 40k.
To be fair, Space Marines SELL.

>>96548656
me and everyone in this conversation who agrees it's a harmlessly generic name.

>and it's a generic term that applies to a million other things
again, there are a lot of factions in both aos and 40k that people call with even more generic terms that can refer easily to more than a million other things, it's not a problem for any of them, so it cannot possibly be brought up as a problem in this case either.

>>96548614
Despite the obvious overlap between marines and SCE, I find that most of my criticism of new SCE releases boils down to "they don't look silly enough" whereas a lot of the criticism I see directed at marines reads like "I can't take this seriously." So I'm not sure their appeal is exactly the same.

>>96548694
"harmlessly generic" =/= less cringeworthy and more organic. (side note: "harmlessly" appears to be a qualifier that you've added as a manipulative turn of rhetoric, as I've seen nobody use that word ITT before you just brought it up)

what you're saying really boils down to "i don't personally like the term stormcast. " you seem to be assuming that everyone else must agree with you. however, and you probably already know this, but your thought process is autistic in the clinical sense. in other words, you're struggling with theory of mind and the basic principle that your taste isn't universal. it's okay, i struggle with it too.

>>96548671
They weren't pushed aside, they're relaunching the entire line and it was a success. They're popular, get over it.

>>96548765
>They weren't pushed aside
Call it whatever you want, then they received releases every other sunday and everything revolved around them, now they don't and it doesn't.

>>96548322
Agreed. But that is why I hope for range refresh and more courtly figures.

How do you like our new High Falconer Felgryn?

i think Chorfs should be the new protagonist faction instead of boring ol' Eternals

>>96548339
Yeah, I like what they tried to do but I feel they ought to do a proper cook unit for FEC. Chef, assistants and YES cauldrons, pots and food.

>>96548382
As seen in Dawnbringers short stories, the one with Glutos, ogors can become ghouls when drinking Kingsblood.

>>96548727
Anon, I may be autistic but you're one pointlessly pedantic sperg.

You cannot possibly argue in good faith that a generic adjective is somehow more cringe than a trademarked nounverbed title.
There's no possible subjectivity that flips this up, just like you'll not find someone who thinks standing in the sahara desert in the middle of the day is colder than doing the same in the middle of the arctic, no matter how different their subjective perception of heat can be.

>>96548894
>thing I dislike is objectively cringe despite several people disagreeing with me
again, you just don't like it and that's fine, we're all still going to keep calling them stormcast

>>96548894
"cringe" is inherently subjective, silly.

>>96548615
Got a feeling gitmob will make an appearance... That army box did NOT sell (see the reduced price on the chorf box, they know they went above what the market would pay)

>>96548904
Ok, but my question wasn't "can you please call them something else for me?" my question was WHY in their case and their case only people never use the second name.
There must be a reason and it cannot be one simply coming first because people don't have that barrier with other double names, and it cannot be because the second is too generic because that never stopped the other factions either.

Can you understand that the point of the conversation is curiosity and not an imposition of anyone's opinion?

>>96548946
eternals is sort of generic even in the context of Age of Sigmar because some of the factions and characters are long lived or undead. It leaves an ounce of ambiguity that stormcast doesn't. calling OBR ossiarchs or bone reapers or skelly bois or whatever is generic, but in the context of AoS it's still very clear which faction you're referring to.

>>96548946
>it cannot be because the second is too generic because that never stopped the other factions either.
but that's not exactly true. most factions that are colloquially referred to by a second name usually have a second name that is either
>1. referencing an older name/identity from WHFB or early AoS
>2. shorter and snappier than the trademark name but still unique enough to be easily identifiable
or
>3. more descriptive than the trademark name

>>96546800
Lmao, did he get the old pinhead mutation from RoC?

>>96549014
>>2. shorter and snappier than the trademark name but still unique enough to be easily identifiable
but eternals fits here just as well
noone but someone acting as a purposeful troll would find the term ambiguous

so there must be a different reason why it's not used

>>96548643
>the term nobody uses is more organic
alrighty
>>96548805
not really, they had three big release waves in first edition, but from second onwards they just had stuff at edition launch and then maybe one or two end of edition kits like everyone else

>>96548975
>It leaves an ounce of ambiguity that stormcast doesn't. calling OBR ossiarchs or bone reapers or skelly bois or whatever is generic, but in the context of AoS it's still very clear which faction you're referring to.
bullshit, overlords, or realmlords or gravelords, or warclans are all way more ambiguous terms that coild theoretically be applied to a lot of factions, but they're used without any issues

>>96549121
"eternals" is not shorter or snappier than "stormcast." it's not more descriptive than "stormcast." the stormcast do not have a WHFB analogue. and as multiple anons have described ITT, the word "eternal" is, in fact, ambiguous within AoS.

if you are truly arguing in good faith, you really need to accept that this is just a symptom of your autism, man.

Reminder that the whole cruel joke is that Stormcast AREN"T Eternal and it's all intimidation bullshit

>>96547726
He'll probably be the Order mirror to Hashut. Locally sourced organic community-based tyranny for the environmentally conscious!

>>96549171
Stormcast Longer Than Expected doesn't roll off the tongue

>>96549145
be honest, how often do you hear KO referred to as just "overlords"? lumineth as just "realmlords"? soulblight as just "gravelords"? even "warclans" are usually referred to as ironjawz or kruleboyz

I think Hedonites of Slaanesh should get a new unit. But like a proper unit not just a pity character

>>96549145
nta but in basically all those examples the other part of the faction is more often used
kharadron way more than overlords
lumineth way more than realmlords
soulblight somewhat more than gravelords
warclans I honestly don't see too much, it's either orcs or ironjawz/kruleboys specifically.
the only examples i can come up with where the generic part of the name is used more is (funnily enough) Daughters [of khaine] and Sons [of behemat], because they're x of y, and calling them khaine or behemat doesn't really work. and even then I mostly see people use the abbreviations dok and sob mostly

>>96549223
I’d say hero and unit.
Mounted hero, Lord of Exhilaration and foot Slickblades for the actual unit.

>>96549167
>"eternals" is not shorter or snappier than "stormcast."
Yes, it is, and the fact they get remade is their most distinctive trait.
>the word "eternal" is, in fact, ambiguous within AoS.
>>96549145

>>96549189
It doesn't happen often, but it definitely happens sometimes, meanwhile nobody ever refers to sce as just eternals

there must be another reason behind

>>96549223
Well duh, they're clearly missing Slickblades on foot

Do KO just erase monster heroes for free now?
Had a practice game vs myself and nagash got taken out by 2 gunhaulers in two turns.

>>96549145
>but they're used without any issues
I don't think they are. Most people don't call them by just the second name, besides maybe realmlords. I will give GW some credit with the names, giving most factions a name that can be abbreviated to a unique 2 or 3 letter name makes referncing factions easier.

So i read about the Chorf blunderbusser's... For being 5 units with just 1 attack, i feel that can be tough killers, but a waste if they shoot the fodder with that 2 damage

A lil bit disappointed also since they are less armored from their ToW kin

>>96546045 (OP)
Moses with the 10 commandments of chorfing

>>96549181
Sauce anon?

>>96549257
>>96549248
>Slickblades on foot
pass, redundant with daemonettes.

>>96548837
Impossible i know but i do wish we could get a set box of Chorfs vs CoS with dwarf, Humans and aelfs

>>96547288
Twitch? Probably gone forever.
Youtube? A lot you can find, you just need to dig deep through unofficial Warhammer news sites.

Also some of the stuff might be in White Dwarf in an article form or on Warhammer+.

>>96549256
>>"eternals" is not shorter or snappier than "stormcast."
>Yes, it is, and the fact they get remade is their most distinctive trait.
it's literally more syllables than "stormcast," what are you talking about?
>there must be another reason behind
brother have you considered that there are a ** number** of reasons, all working in tandem to dissuade people from organically choosing to call them eternals--all of which have been pointed out to you--but that you are refusing to accept them? you are asking why the community doesn't call them eternals, and we, a chunk of the community, are giving you are reasons, to which you respond
>nuh uh

you are either "purposefully trolling" as you call it or are so low-functioning that it's a miracle you can operate a computer

>>96549256
>>96549314
also even if we assume that their most distinctive **lore** is reforging, **visually** their most distinctive trait is being metal armored golem-men with lightning motifs. stormcast is very descriptive of what you get if you open a box of Stormcast Eternals, trademarked by Games Workshop, LTD

Finecast eternals

>>96549256
I don't really know what you're arguing for anon, if you prefer eternals that's fine, but I don't really see why you're dying on the hill that it's the snappier choice or whatever, why would people vastly prefer stormcast if that were the case?

>>96549297
>ToW
The of World?

>>96549347
>why would people vastly prefer stormcast if that were the case?
he's going to say
>that's what i've been trying to figure out but i'm getting trolled

>>96549314
>to which you respond
>>nuh uh
because they're wrong
you cannot tell me a term being generic is a problem when it literally is not a problem in plenty other similar and even more egregious cases
go to 40k and tell them you like the guard and nobody is going to have a doubt over what faction you're talking about

>>96549397
"Guard" is a reference to their original name, to various real-life military organizations similar to the Imperial Guard and NOT similar to any other 40k faction, AND is snappier than Astra Militarum. feel free to try again, though.

>>96549453
>guard is not a generic name similar to death guard, or custodian guard, or chaos guard or raven guard or more
>eternal is not original to stormcasts and it will be mistaken with factions that get never be called that way
see, that's why I say you're wrong, whether you do in on purpose or just because you're unaware of it, you're giving as reason for your opinion something that cannot be correct, that happens it's called confabulation
but it cannot be the real reason

>>96549352
Terms of Wervice

Bro, just call them Eternals yourself and explain it to people every time when you get hit with the “Huh?”. Damn, dude.

>>96549536
>ou're giving as reason for your opinion something that cannot be correct, that happens it's called confabulation
that's called having an opinion and you really are autistic. Just pack it up bud

>>96549536
i'm not saying i LIKE the 40k naming structure. in fact, i think it's stupid that they put "guard" in so many faction names. what i'm explaining to you is why the Imperial Guard won the "war of the Guards" and gets to go by just "the Guard."

"Raven Guard" are RG because they are more "Raven" than "Guard." "Death Guard" are DG because they are more "Death" than "Guard." Further, Death Guard and Custodes did not become independent playable factions until 2017-2018, long after IG cemented its title as *the* Guard.

meanwhile, what do you see when you look at this list? where do they fit in the 40k universe? exactly, in the Imperial Guard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_army_units_called_%22guards%22

i'm sorry, but you don't understand because you have an inherent, medical deficiency preventing you from mastering how human social norms and communication function.

>No duardin, even those hollowed by Hashut's influence, would follow one who shirks the battlefield. Like the Runefathers of the Fyreslayers and the Admirals of the sky-ports, the warlords of the Zharrdron command in person. Rich segmented mail covers bodies swollen with dark might. Immaculately plaited beards are bound by clasps embossed with runes that see their eyes burn and veins run black. Their fabrics are decadent, their helms crested by the horns of the Bullfather, and their guns and blades empowered by the most ravenous daemonspawn. There is a grandeur matched only by the Daemonsmiths — and, like the Daemonsmiths, the War Despots view themselves above all.

>Despots typically hail from the royal clans. They may be elders steeped in malignancy or ambitious princelings, calculating factory overseers or resource-hoarding industrialists united only in their extensive influence and utter contempt for any who stand against them. They have bargained and manipulated to acquire the service of warriors and weapons, tying vast reserves of martial might to their names. Yet to empower their arsenals with dark fire, a Despot is invariably required to place themselves in the deficit of one of their ziggurat's Daemonsmiths. Canny Despots know that there is a grim symbiosis that must be entertained to ensure that physical power and resources remain thoroughly in their grasp — Hashut's sorcerous elite must rely on their support to achieve their designs as much as they need the Daemonsmiths and their magics.

>>96549601
>that's called having an opinion
I'm talking about the explanation you present as being behind your opinion

it may be in your opinion that that's the reason, but it cannot be

>>96549256
>Yes, it is, and the fact they get remade is their most distinctive trait.
Eternals is 3 syllables, Stormcast is 2 syllables. It takes 50% longer to speak.

>>96549616
>Though their sworn warhosts are usually filled by their own clan-kin, a Despot sees each warrior beneath them as a tool. They command without pretence to consensus, expecting each order to be heeded instantly — else the consequences will be inventive and sharp. Like a bull locking horns with a rival, most Despots view unrelenting force as the means to overpower foes, validated by the sheer degree the Zharrdron can bring to bear. Ancient Despots have experience born of hundreds, if not thousands, of battles and no stratagem is beneath them, no matter how dire. Their cold willingness to perform any evil in pursuit of glory is, in their minds, further evidence of their right to rule.

>Few Zharrdron can manipulate magic. Tradition maintains that only those with royal blood may inherit the gift, with many patriarchs and matriarchs attempting experiments to stoke sorcery in their spawn. There are also persistent rumours of beardlings from unfavoured lineages displaying magical talent and being forcibly seized for adoption by retainers of the noble houses. A clan that produces such an heir gains a powerful bargaining piece, especially if this progency rise to a position of influence on a ziggurat's council. But Daemonsmith's only know a lust for power and see even their kin as tools to exploit.

>A Daemonsmith's spells offer both destruction and dark creation. The cursed fire they conjure can warp and reform damaged hell-steel as readily as it kills. They manipulate the stuff of Chaos with disdain, though never outright disregard. Daemonsmiths consider the loathsome power they wield much as they would a pistol or blade — hazardous in witless hands but a worthy tool for one with ambition and skill.

>>96549617
>it may be in your opinion that that's the reason, but it cannot be
this is like a fundamental inability to understand other people, whatever you have it is severe.

>>96549616
>their guns and blades empowered by the most ravenous daemonspawn
Reminder that they forget to give the War Despot a profile for his gun

>>96549607
>what i'm explaining to you is why the Imperial Guard won the "war of the Guards" and gets to go by just "the Guard."
ok, now expand your tunnel vision a tiny bit and understand that nobody has claimed the term eternal, sce have it, they already won the "war of the eternals"

so you can't tell me the reason people don't use eternal is because it's ambiguous
it simply cannot be the reason, you must be hypocritical to say that

>Hashut is a demanding deity and requires a priesthood to tend his brazen temples and perform flesh-searing sacrifices in his name. Such is the onus of the Drazghar, also known as the Scorched Sect. Though often drawn from the same noble clans as the Daemonsmiths, this ancient cult's initiates are uneasy rivals to the sorcerers. Many of its venerable masters, known as the Ashen Elders, are marked by the stone-flesh curse for their dabbling in Hashut's teachings — and though they forgo elaborate headgear to pretend at mendicant humility, their lust for power runs as deep as any of their kind.

>Cinder spills from between an Ashen Elder's tusks as they intone Hashut's contempt with vitriol enough to melt armour, flesh and soul. It is also they who maintain many of the god's most profane relics, including the dreaded Black Hammers. While hammers, famed symbols of Grungni, are usually ill-favoured by Hashut's faithful as weapons, the Black Hammers are things of deliberate insult — each cooled in the blood of a master Runesmith or hearth-priest. Should one not esteemed in the Bullfather's service grip such a weapon, it is said that their very bones will crumble. But in the hands of a Drazghar priest, a Black Hammer shatters the earth, drawing power from sundered nexus points and feeding it to the Bullfather, so the priests claim, as their preaching grows even more burningly zealous.

>>96549617
>I'm talking about the explanation you present as being behind your opinion
you're arguing with multiple people.

you also seem to be looking for mathematical exactitude, computer-like logic in the reasons for communication trends. that's literally autistic and maladaptive. essentially, you have a basic misunderstanding for how groups of people exchange ideas using words and symbols that is preventing you from grasping what is obvious to seemingly everyone *but* you.
>>96549655
you're misunderstanding again. ambiguity is *ONE* of the reasons that eternals isn't used. and i gave you the reasons why Guard overcame that deficiency. like i described above, your developmental disorder prevents you from understanding these things intuitively.

>>96549655
Nobody in lore refers to them as eternals, which is why the second word in their army name is so superfluous and unnecessary.
It really should be cut down to just Stormcast

>>96549625
the number of syllables isn't the only metric behind the length of words, the number of sounds within each of those syllables matters more
in the case of eternal, the vocal at the beginning of the word and the liquid l at the end help a lot in speeding its pronunciation
again, you cannot bring up wrong reasons as reasons and expect me to accept them as valid opinions

So what are the chorfs missing atm?

Chimera
The "Guard"
Black orc slaves
The tank?

What else?

>>96549693
>ambiguity is *ONE*
I keep telling you it literally cannot be an issue because it's never an issue anywhere else even with way vaguer terms.

>>96549732
You are seeking consistency when language is very rarely consistent

>>96549732
you're right that you keep saying that. except you're wrong, as has been shown to you every single time you say it. it's not our fault that you willfully refuse to understand. this is also why your parents, teachers, peers, and authority figures have been frustrated with you for your entire life.

>>96549716
Hobgoblins
Actual elite chorfs
More mutated dwarves
Maybe demon engine s

>>96549753
>Hobgoblins
Bro? Your vandalz?

>>96549753
Arent the hobgrots that? Or you meant it more like "better equipped" hobgrots?

>>96549716
taur'ruk / centaur hero
mounted priest (maybe an astragoth style?)
chorf train
k'daai

>>96549716
>So what are the chorfs missing atm?
The things that immediately come to mind are mounted versions of war despots and ashen elders. And then a terrain piece, and maybe some manifestations.

>>96549785
I wonder if the K'daai destroyer will be a centerpiece sized model or if it'll be on the smaller end like the bullbot. I would hope they prioritize putting out more machines and the lammasu as those are the cooler chorf units.

>>96549711
I think you're an autistic ESL struggling to speak your better's language.

>>96549716
They have little reasons to have all the same units as before, black orcs aren't even a thing in this new age, ironjaws are unrelated from a fluff standpoint.
The tome has hinted at more mutant chorfs (like the lammasu) and at mercenary giants supplied with chaos armor.
A short story described a partially petrified demonsmith walking around on a chair with mechanical legs, which might have been sculpted but left out of this first release.
And the army is missing spells and scenery, which they'll probably get next time, since gw seems to be on a completionist run this time around.

>>96549616
>>96549631
>>96549645
>>96549671
Thank you anon! Appreciate any more you're willing to share!
>>96549651
They just gave him the lazy 4th ed "holy profile"(copy-paste profile), which doesn't contain a ranged attack.