Thread 96566723

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>>96530643

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>TQ
How was your last game?

Recommend me a good low-fantasy warband-level game. I want a system with no fancy totally-not-Warhammer units. Just your classic archers, spearmen, cavalry and magic users for evergreen fantasy races like Elves, Orcs and Humans. Oathmark would perfectly check all the boxes if it wasn't for the rank-and-file movement and size. I want something with 15-30 minis per player tops.

Dystopian Wars is getting a 4th edition at the end of the month, anyone excited?

>>96566723 (OP)
>TQ

The last game I played was Xenos rampant with my son, to teach him the basics. He enjoyed mowing down light infantry on open terrain. Need to make some more terrain and play on the floor so that there's more room for maneuver etc.

Harvesteranon from the previous thread, can you post pictures of the six legged critters you built?

Since North Star will probably never put out a plastic power armour set for Stargrave, what are some alternative plastics that would scale well with the rest of the Stargrave range?

>>96567079

Em4 space rangers and WGA eisenkern maybe?

>>96567079

Beyond the Gates of Antares Algoryn?

Just use different heads or the helmets for humans

>>96566867
OPR skirmish

>>96566723 (OP)
>tq
Was good, a bit short but the game plays fast. which is convenient for after work but isn't as satisfying as a longer game. Playing Space Battles with someone who has limited wargame experience but we're having fun. Going to start adding light houserules to include close-enough spaceship movement with inertia and turning instead of everyone zipping around in any direction all the time.
Overall goal is to get them to a planet invasion and run that with a different wargame.

>>96566867
Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes is fun, quite pulpy small warband game.
Sword Weirdos might work, haven't even skimmed it but seems well liked enough.

>>96566884
the what? I had no idea it even had a third...

Examples of games with randomly constrained decision space, eg roll to see which of move / shoot / react a dude can do each turn. It seems somewhat common in board games. I think What a Tanker has it, and Fivecore does to an extent with its run / shoot / normal turns.
Not just randomised number of actions like SoBaH and the like. Nor random special command cards and the like.
>why tho
I think it might be an interesting constraint to add to my solo games, and want to see what other people have tried.

>>96566867
Brutal Quest

Yo where the hell is this from

>>96568098
No idea but im gonna throw a random thought it could be from shadowrun

So what's everyone's favorite combat resolution mechanic for large scale rank and flank fantasy battles? Buckets of dice? opposed rolls? Something else?
The other question i've got is whats your favorite overall game in this genre? Fantastic Battles? HoTT? Warmaster? Fantasy Rules!?
I've been working on a new ruleset and I've been bouncing back and forth on the combat resolution side of things so I'm here to pick your brain and see if there's an interesting way of doing thing's I hadn't considered.

>>96568098
What's it say on the underside?

>create big bronze/iron age fantasy world with intention to have a solo campaign like civ but fight the battles with minis(10mm)
>no idea what rules to use
was thinkin about just homebrewin some shite tbqh

So the Weaver Courts are up for pre-order. The rules are also up.

>>96571012
I'm getting these boys day 1, I love the sculpts and colour choices most excited for the four niggas, ant elves, and the plant dragon
>The Wild Hunt 320 Points - One Per Army
>Spoken of only in hushed whispers, the Wild Hunt is known to all who have opposed the will of the Weaver Courts. While each Court is known to have its Knight, who carries their Lieges honor and represents them in duels. The Wild Hunt is something else entirely. Each of the Courts sends forth their Knight, and each is empowered by the combined primordial blessing of all the Queens, Kings and Consorts before they mount their ritual beasts and ride forth. The result is less a military force, and more of a natural disaster driven by malevolent will…

>>96571102
I'd nab them if I didn't already have another army, OD, to work on. I'm looking forward to seeing what their other models look like. They mentioned that they want to push everything out faster than what they've done with other new armys' releases.

>>96571012
I kind of like the butterfly riders, but nothing else speaks to me.

>>96571102
I love that the Scoth Draic becomes a forest when it dies. Also that they give you a pronunciation guide for the names.

>>96571135
Probably because they had been putting off this release for so long, they don't want to keep stringing the players that wanted them along.

>>96567573
Warcradle bought a bunch of Spartan IP when they went bankrupt and rebooted DW as part of their WWX universe. Apparently most of the Spartan molds were broken, balding or missing so they redid the entire range from scratch.

3rd ed started out alright but as they added weirder units the amount of special rules became rediculous, and most games were decided Turn 1/2.

4th ed aims to cull Special Rules, and hopefully stop 1-turn games, we will see if it succeeds

>>96571012
There's too many fucking factions in Conquest

>>96571102
Its also neat that you can hire them separately as mini characters.

>>96572046
And the greeks are the strongest one.
Who makes this game again? I'm shocked there's not designated jobber Turkish army.

To the guy asking about Quar vehicles: you've been served.

Is trench crusade worth trying out? I'm looking for free/almost free skirmish games. Looking at TC and Sword Weirdos right now

>>96571012
This feels like it kinda infringes on Spires territory. How are the two factions related?

It's nice that WGA put out a hard plastic kit for Trench Crusade but holy shit 7 figures for £40.00 is terrible value compared to their usual offerings of 20+ figures for £29.99. I don't know if it's better value for USoids.

>>96572602
News on Quar Vehicles!?

>>96573100
Wood Elves versus Meat Elves, basically.

>>96573129
the two basic coftyr and crusader tanks are out in plastic with gun options
I think they are ugly and rather just proxy them, the squad tractors are cooler anyway

>>96573100
These are the original priest caste of the Spires. They left because they were disgusted by how the Exiles' life magic was being abused to make troops for the war with the dragons. So they made the Dwarves for the dragons as a peace offering, and went and started harmonizing their magic with the elemental magics of the planet. Now, instead of using it to make clones, they use the magic to meld themselves with aspects of the elements and nature.

>>96572740
>>>/tg/trench

>>96573102
>holy shit 7 figures for £40.00 is terrible value compared to their usual offerings of 20+ figures for £29.99
It is the requester that decides on the price, not WGA. Anyone can come to WGA and commission minis with them but after estimating the manufacturing and handling costs with a profit for WGA, everything else is up to their customer.

>>96573206
So if I have money I can get anime figures manufactured?

>>96573213
Afaik yes.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOrDHT-jjaa/?img_index=1

>>96573102
Considering how the minis look, its even terrible value compared to some GW kits.

But as >>96573206 said: Its a commissioned set, and they only do the production and distribution, the money (minus their share ofc) goes to the guy behind it. Same with Space Nam, Quar and the other sets that are not really theirs they do.

>>96573226
How the hell are there even Mormons at all in Trench Crusade? The Americas were apparently never colonized, and the entire LDS church is based around relics the founder supposedly discovered in New York.

>>96573213
>>96573226
Here is all you need to know:
https://wargamesatlantic.com/pages/wargames-atlantic-outsource

>We provide an end-to-end service for developing injection molded plastic. You have an idea, you may even have some concept art or sculpture.

>we're starting off by offering an inclusive service featuring:


>A. Sculpting and engineering
>B. Tooling*
>C. Injection molding in the USA
>D. Box design and printing in the USA

>Pricing starts in the low five figures but is really dependent on the specific details of the project. We can help you determine if your project is feasible to get the ball rolling.

Its not too bad really. I think those Trench Crusade Mormons look like shit, but the fact that some random youtuber can come up with a properly made set of plastic miniatures for not that much money is quite nice.

>>96574328
This is exactly why I can't stop laughing at GW cultists that still push the "muh hyper-expensive molds" narrative. The technology got much cheaper in the last 10 years to the point where literally-who companies produce plastic kits. Fuck, GW has about two dozens of single promo minis they give away for free nowadays.

>>96573206
>WGADF REPORTING IN
You dumbass, companies can always reject bids and contracts if they seem unreasonable during negotiation. You don't care because you make your cut anyway.

>>96574349
Hola schizola.
>companies can always reject bids and contracts if they seem unreasonable during negotiation
Why would WGA care if some random eceleb wants his kit to be priced unreasonably high if he covers the service costs? It is not their problem that some shitty disgusting kit for a meme game won't sell because dude is greedy.
If someone asks me to make a table for them for X so they can resell it for 5 times X, I don't give a fuck - my costs and the profit are covered.

>>96574377
Having bad pricing is bad PR. WGA is trying to do various social media (like you) control and sass their way into being
>too big to fail
and now you get to say
>this is just the one anon who hates wga for /pol/ reasons
but there's actually a number of different anons who dislike WGA and where its gone over the last few years.
You have to keep doubling down though. You've already played the
>mental health insult card
try incels or something.

>>96574389
>Having bad pricing is bad PR
Only if you are retarded enough to not understand that this kit is commissioned which they made very clear.
>All this projecting and talking to himself in public
Dude, it's time to seek help.
The last time I bought a WGA kit was their Conquistador Ogres for Mordheim. I have no interest in yet another Ameridumb civil war, I give zero fucks about what WGA is doing outside of their releases. Their bronze age chariots suck and they never released the ancient Egypt kits they promised ages ago. The company can go down and burn for what I care, schizo-kun.

>>96574389
The fact that you list valid counterarguments before they are brought up by someone else doesn't make them any less valid.

>>96574389
lol

>>96574348
To be fair, this "its so expensive" claim gets less and less posted online.
15-30k is still not pocket money, but also not some huge deal to some people, especially if all the actual work is done by someone else for you. Be it WGA, or Archon, or Renedra.
They all will make whatever silly minis you desire if you have enough spare cash.

>>96574389
How much did they pay you for that rented space in your head? Or do they stay there for free?

>>96574389
>Having bad pricing is bad PR

Having the first dedicated (so not just their WW1 sets) Trench Crusade plastic set on the market is way better PR than some poorfags crying about the price.
They provide the service and Dave gets his money back, if it sells.
And clearly they see
>WGA is expensive
as a very minor problem compared the big benefit of
>WGA has Trench Crusade plastic minis

If it pays off.. we will see.

>>96573102

It's neat that the trench crusade people have their first plastic kit now, but I wish wga finally released their warring states chinks and lorica squamata Romans.

>>96574682
In the last newsletter they write that next year they will focus on fleshing out all their existing older ranges. Dont give up your hopes.

I'm currently moving to my new house and I'm so scared I'm going to break or lose some miniatures.

>>96574755
No wonder, you haven't fucking secured them in any reasonable way.

>>96571012
>another bunch of wood elves with fancy leather work and stylised masks

Just give me Welsh bowmen like in 4th and 5th whfb.

>>96574755
>Billhooksanon

Glad she threw you out
Probably tired of your shit

>>96574682
I like WGA

>>96574755
mate why do you have a cup holder for your gun

>>96574682
>It's neat that the trench crusade people have their first plastic kit now,
40 Quid for that shitty little sprue set is a rip off, I will not be playing Trench Crusade using that.

>>96574899
'murica

>>96574744

No I won't, there are still so many other miniatures I'd like to collect or paint, those kits I mentioned are a pretty low priority.

>>96574893

Yeah me too, I'll start painting my sipahi cavalry today after I put my son to sleep. I hope they'll eventually do mughal war elephants. Though I'm still slightly disappointed that the sipahi mirror armour is historically inaccurate.

>>96574910

Me neither, but I welcome more hard plastic miniature kits.

>>96574755
>Billhoe is also the Konflikt30 baiter
Colour me surprised.

>>96574910
>playing trench crusade at all
you could probably make a comparable rule set over a long weekend. But lets be real nobody here actually plays games, its just endless bitching over bullshit and hucksters trying to sell indie models.

>>96574899
He's driving to Oathmark anon's house after losing it all. He doesn't understand he is about to get a clay snake through his car window.

>>96574949
Pirinen was always a bullshitter
Compare Fantasy 5th and 6th editions

https://www.konflikt47.com/rift/#konflikt47-armylists

K47 army lists are up. Let's go, boys

>>96574928
>but I welcome more hard plastic miniature kits.
Of course, I just don't like the pricing and limited customization options.

>>96573213
Think beyond
Perries could sculpt your waifu.

New victrix plastic, the horned helmet is really neat.

>>96575047
>Mfw I bought Warlord's Macedonian Phalangites box just a few days ago
It's a shame Warlord will never release any new plastic kits that are not targeted for treadheads and epic scale. I bought their Phalangites on purpose since their sarissas are thicker than Victrix's ones and bodies have less detail which honestly I find to be a good thing. Shame that I will have to mix ranges if I want to build a proper force. Maybe I should stick with SAGA only after all?

>>96575070
Could be worse anon. I purchased WGA footknights and a day later learned of Victrix's kit.

>>96575070
Thureophoroi are beyond Alexanders reign and well into diadochi era so you shouldnt get them anyway.

>>96575090
I wanted to build Successors actually, love me some elephants.

>>96575078
Ouch. Victrix foot knights are the best kit of the year.
>>96575097
Then go all in and instead take persians / egyptians as skirmishers.

>>96566723 (OP)
Monsterpocalypse died for your sins

>>96575145
It died for being uninteresting

Is homie on the right wearing a shirt and tie?

>>96574994
skimming through right now, spotted that British have a MkI automated infantry profile which correlates to the current metal ones, and a MkII profile which is a bit bigger with heavier weapons. Assuming that will be a plastic kit.

>>96574930
You're totally mistaken. I'm actually the one who made fun of his pajeets when he initially posted in /hwg/, to which he is still seething about to this day. That walker is a random Dust model I bought at a convention flea market for a few dollars. I honestly don't know why I still have it. Id send it to pajeetfag for free if he wanted it to be honest. The only reason you see it of because it doesn't belong to any army do I don't have it organized in a box

>>96575211
I... think so? It sure looks like one.

>>96575130
I ken anon, I saw them and instantly regretted the WGA sprues. Nothing against WGA mind, but Victrix blows them out of the water.

>>96575409
These guys are totally wearing shirts and ties. Just when I thought they couldn't look any more NOT like Trench Crusade minis, I go and notice that.

>>96575145
It more likely died because the release schedule made no sense, putting out like one monster for a classic faction and nothing else for years while flooding releases for new shit no one cared about like the furries.
Plus the scale was awkward to the point that you can't really use any of it for anything but Monsterpocalypse, the monsters are too big to be units in anything else but too small to be monsters and the minions are too small to be anything.

>>96574755
Couldn't you afford the time to get some proper boxes before moving house? The way you do it is asking for that shit to fly around in your car.

>>96575423
I think their meant to be priests dogcollars, but yeah, they look out of place.

>>96574910
>40 Quid for that shitty little sprue set is a rip off,

It is, since its just 7 unique figures, and i will play the devils advocate here, despite hating the set:
It makes sense from WGAs perspective to charge more for it. (ignoring that the money goes to the Dave guy from MWG)
Its 3 unique sprues, so 3 times the work to make them (they are their small-ish half sprue i think, but still).
A regular box like their halfling snipers or werewolves (afaik those use the same smaller sprue size) includes 5 times the same sprue. This box has 3 unique ones. While its less plastic, production is more expensive because the machine cant just spit out 25 sprues in a row to make 5 boxes, but they have to change the tool 3 times to make the same amount of boxes.

That said, i think by buying 3 different random WW1 sprues from ebay, despite the resellers markup, will give you 3x 6 figures with way more variation and options for less than 40 bucks. Also way (!) better poses too. Those are the really bad thing about this box. The top right guy on that pic (>>96575423).. wtf is this shit. It looks retarded, but the paintjob does not help either. I'd take pic related all day over that.

All in all, its the vanity project of a youtube wannabe celebrity, so i can look over it in a way. Being mormons, its way to niche and too gimmicky for me to be interested in it even if the sculpts would have been great, but since they suck, i would not even buy it for 10.

But i'm honestly happy for Dave, if this made a dream come true for him, by having his very own plastic set. And if i had the spare cash to make WGA make a set for me personally, i would not care about other peoples opinions either.

>>96575047
Boeotian helmets are always nice, but this is a /hwg/ topic, isn't it?

>>96574954
I'm British m8. It'll be an arrow from my longbow. Or a spear, can do a spear throw too.

>>96575495
I hate it.

>>96575514
Nice pic miniatures. But I hate that this is their first foray into Trench Crusade, it looks so half assed and ill considered.

>>96575495
No, they are definately Shirt and Tie. They are Mormons.

>>96576102
>They are Mormons.
What, for real?

>>96575047
I swear, ancients have the coolest units. That mix of heroism and gritty shitty reality.

>>96576124
Apparently. See: >>96573226

>>96576164
I thought there is no america in trench because aztecs are racist or something.

>>96575324
I noticed that. Also on the same subject

>HMG equipped Mark 1s put out the same firepower per point as HMG teams, despite the -1 to hit, because they're 45 ppm for an HMG instead of 70.
>this means compared to crew served HMGs, they're more mobile and tougher for the same firepower
>plus all the restrictions automated units had in v1 are gone

>>96576175
Its the headcanon of Dave, and not an official TC product. He literally wanted to have a squad of mormons in trench crusade and had the money to get it made as a plastic set.

>>96576175

In defense of trench crusade, the setting is aesthetics and vibes first and foremost. That's what the creator said, he was drawing pictures he thought were cool, and the setting started forming around them.

>>96576175
>aztecs are racist or something.
you fucking serious? LIke, is this a shitpost or are you telling me that's actually a thing?

>>96576299

I'll wager it's a shitpost, but I also understand why creators would avoid making a TC version of them out of fear.

>>96576299
You get banned for discussing this.
I am not joking.

>>96576386
>no Aztec big booty priestesses(buttocks 4 handspans wide) cutting out demon hearts

>>96576299
I mean, any Aztec empire that survived initial contact would probably be extremely hostile to Europeans. That's just good sense given what actually happened.

>>96576386
>You get banned for discussing this.
wut..
>I am not joking.
WUT

>>96576257
That is so fucking gay

>>96576648
Hello newfriend, enjoy your stay.

>>96575145

Only if you're directing that "your" towards Privateer Press. Those dumb fuckers had a breakthrough hit in the Japanese market and they fumbled it.

>>96576299
The first 6 months of trench crusade general was a shit show of having an inside mod sanitizing everything. Couldn't even type
>Grimclusive
It's when getting a plugin to see all the deleted posts became necessary to engage with /tg/. It's insane to see sometimes.

>>96575036
To add, I think about commisioning Perries or someone as good to make me a mini of Barbarossa.
Because somehow there are no minis of berber pirates and especially not leaders.

>>96574682

Speak of the devil...

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/preview-late-romans-in-scale-armor

Realistically speaking, I reckon these are not as fine sculpts as victrix's late Romans, but they'll be more easily kitbashable. I do like that all of them have greaves.

>>96577189
Ah, scale maille my beloved.

>>96577189
Victrix historicals are just getting so fucking good.

>>96577189
Finally models for my Ermor kitbash.

>>96574682
>lorica squamata
Bleh

>>96577346
It is incredible how far they've come from napoleonics that don't glue properly with plastic glue.

>>96577346
i do personally wish they would go slightly more heroic scale with the weapons so they could get room on the hilts, gun barrels, and blades for a bit more detail and be a bit less fragile, but i realize im probably in the minority and historical fans prefer size accuracy over detail and structure.

I like the idea and aesthetics of Warmachine but hate resin miniatures and I hate its pricing outside of the starter boxes. Do you think that getting just whatever starter boxes I like and using them as a self-contained "boardgame/wargame" where you just pit 30-point fixed forces against each other is worth it?

>>96577963
30 point games are not very interesting imo
one of the problems is that a fully buffed and loaded heavy warjack/warbeast is often capable of killing another one, so you run into a 'nothing survives first contact' problem

just buy legacy metal stuff if resin bothers you

>>96572594
City States are far from the strongest, and haven't been in months.

>>96575145
MonPoc was murdered by an arrogant Capitol Hill buttfucker angry that someone else's work was more successful than his. I do sort of have an axe to grind with Matt, several of my friends are Press Gangers that got fucked over by them cancelling the program the week before a major local convention. But goddamn is he a thin-skinned little prick. Dude threw a tantrum on the floor at one of the first PAXes when they sold out of MonPoc boosters and people kept coming up to the booth and asking about it instead of Warmachine.

>>96574954
>>96575569
One of the several other OathmarkAnons here, I know he doesn't live in my neighborhood and he'd fail his Mettle test to activate anyway.
Also my 1911 looks nicer than his.

>>96577963
We just need a generic warmahordes style stystem where you can build your own units. There is a market for a big dude + hero + mooks + ungodly combos kind of gameplay.

>>96577435
The price is the soul tho

If I wanted to start an infantry focused army for bolt action/konflict 47, i heard that the british SAS was probably the best bet. Is this true? What books and what units would be recommended?

>>96571012
>get excited about the descriptions of how they mesh their bodies with nature and mix and match, some body horror stuff
>they’re actually just wood elves
For fucks sake

>>96574994
If I'm reading it right, it looks like they're encouraging full K47 only stuff? Dissuading from using regular guys alongside the weird.
If so, that's a huge shame. I enjoyed the idea of regular guys being forced to work alongside a squad of weird zombies, a mech leading a tank assault, or power armor spearheading for guys with bolt actions

>>96577189
Another set, spoiled by puddle bases

>>96580082
>If so, that's a huge shame.

I dont think so

> I enjoyed the idea of regular guys being forced to work alongside a squad of weird zombies

And you can still do that, if you think that is cool

>>96579969
Yeah if anything Conquest factions are getting less imaginative per release. It probably markets better.

>>96577346
They really are. I just got the foot knights and sergeants, and they’re both phenomenal kits.

>>96580581

Imagine once they get around to making byzantines and mongols...

>>96580756
I really want them to create Mamluks. Their islamic cavalry kit is good, but there's no caparisons/barding/armored horses, and no options for later 14th century helmets and armor

>>96580775

Yeah that's a great call, would love to see them make heavily armoured eastern cavalry.

>>96575556
How, you can use them for any med themed game, like From Gods and heroes.

>>96580173
Wasnt this one supposed to have released a long time ago? If so, that cannot be the case.

>>96576286
The setting kindof suck donkey ball tough, and its a very unfun comunity. Not as bad as lancer, but I don't think many games have a worse fanbase than that one.

>>96579697
I been saying it for a good while, there is a site for a generic of this style.

>>96566723 (OP)
Who's the handsovme guy in the OP?

Lots of /awg/-related auctions are running out tomorrow afternoon. Shipping is from germany, but maybe there is something for you among those listings:
https://www.ebay.de/str/dumpingklaus?LH_Auction=1&_sop=1&_pgn=12&rt=nc&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211&_tab=shop

>>96580870
I think fan bases in general getting worse and have been for a while. They're either super consumerist, hyper focusing on buying what a company sells them. Or they are super PC and sanitized with no room for fun or edginess or creative expressions.
Some manage to be a mix of both.

>>96581193
Is Games Island running auctions like this all the time? I only know about their main store and the second-hand store.
>>96581003
One of the new plastic models for Warmachine from Steamforged Games.

>>96581317
I blame indians getting internet for that.

>>96579315
I always hear about MonPoc being killed because of PP's leadership being butthurt, but never heard any specific stories / details. I would love to hear more stories about this.

Is there anywhere I can read up on list building and tactics for OPR Grimdark Future? I’m new to the game and trying to get my buddies into it but we all collectively don’t know shit about the game in motion, only the rules we’ve read. We’re not competitive but we’re trying to throw together coherent lists that aren’t total garbage.

I asked this in /hwg/ but since I see some historical discussion here perhaps I will try my luck in /awg/.

What events in ancient history make for a good background/inspiration for building and playing with a small warband of dudes? I'm looking for stories like Polycrates supposedly taking over Samos with just fifty men. Is there any historical event that made you grab just a handful of minis and think 'This is exactly the kind of adventure I want to recreate with these boys"?

>>96579969
The moth riders and bowmen are both described as young weavers who haven't done much lifebinding yet, the seasonal units and Gallowglass Warriors should be much more out there in terms of designs

>>96581608
Plenty, Cosacks wars, Reconquista stuff where castles changed hands every few weeks and cavalcadas were common, Dragon de cuera stuff with apaches, comanches and a lot of other tribs, but with more armor and lances, the Sea people times, where entire tribes did go Viking, and of course the migration stuff during the fall of Rome, the Spring and autumn if you like chinese stuff, where entire city states and minor states where gobled up or spliced form other bigger ones annually, the different american wars (from the conquest to the battle of little big horn) where marauder gangs were the rule etc

>>96581357
>I only know about their main store and the second-hand store.

They have their 2nd hand store, "tabletop ankauf" & "tabletop verkauf" where they buy and sell used minis. Their "verkauf" listings are usually mirrored on ebay as well, sometimes not everything is listed on both plattforms.

From time to time (i follow them on ebay for years actually), they seem to want to get rid of some stuff that isn't selling fast enough, so they list them as auctions. There are periods in between with no auctions at all, and then they let hundreds run for a given period, and usually those items sell for quite cheap, compared what they usually list them for. I got some nice deals there in the past

>>96581608
Wild West stuff always jumps to mind. Literally hundreds of tiny range wars between farmers and ranchers. Indian raids. Criminal Gangs. Citizen Vigilance Committees.

Gang wars in general seem great for scale skirmish games. And those have been a thing in various forms for as long as there have been cities. Whether it's drug cartels and bikers or Ea-nāṣir and his Babylonian mooks fighting over bad copper.

>>96581972
>>96581783
Guys, I don't want to be ungrateful but I am asking about specific historical events from the ancient period rather than just general concepts like "tribal wars" or "that modern war had many unnamed skirmishes".

>>96580869
They were, but that doesn't mean they didn't change the designs during the wait. The original concept art shown back then was very different to what we are seeing in model form.

>>96582032
We're giving you starting points to research if you're interested.
Like if Vikings sound cool, look up the raid at Lindesfarne or Stamford Bridge.
If 19th century shootouts sound cool look up the OK corral, Raid on Harper's Ferry or the Battle of Coffeyville.

You might want to be not specific with you questions.
Add a heads up though, if you're looking to "recreate" anything pre-modern you're pretty much going to have to invent it from whole cloth as things were only recorded in the most general terms and usually exaggerated.

>>96578059
That's too bad, the battle box games used to be designed to hook people in and at the very least be viable.
>>96579697
I know no-one I play with would care if you reskinned some shit using the same profiles, but it would be hard to go deeper into a real unit builder and keep it balanced. Having voltron style casters especially would be a real headache, they were constantly tweaking them during mk1-3. I know Mk 4 has spell slots so you can change things around but I haven't played yet so I don't know how/if it works.

>>96582032
Okay retard, I will give you ONE!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castilian_War
This a war of Turks, Spaniards, Aztecs, Incans, Somalis, Egyptians, Malays, Flips and even more.
GUNPOWDER, PIRAOS, SAIL SHIPS, CANONS, FULL PLATE ARMOR, NAKED SAVAGES, FANCY PANTS, PAJAMA WARRIORS, TOLEDO STEEL, AUTISM.
I DARE YOU TO FIND A BETTER ONE.

>>96582190
battlebox games had the exact same problem

>>96582148
>We're giving you starting points to research if you're interested.
Anon, I already researched it. I am asking about it here since I found everything I could on my own but I want to see if people know something that I have missed since you are always limited by the availability of the sources due to language, stuff not being digitalised etc. I am not coming here to start, but to supplement what I already researched on my own. This is exactly why I asked about a specific period (Antiquity), scale of the events and even mentioned a very specific historial event to wrap it up with an example.
>usually exaggerated
Soul.
>>96582199
>Okay retard
>Responds to a question regarding ancient skirmishes with an early modern period war
Am I being trolled here? Guys, if you don't want to reply with an actual answer or don't even care enough to read the post, simply don't waste your time on replying - that's perfectly fine.

>>96582273
>I am asking about it here since I found everything I could on my own
Time to buy some books friend.

>>96566867
I was going to rec you some stuff but the more I look at that handprint on her ass the less I can picture the positioning that would put it there in that orientation and now I'm too angry that you posted AI slop to tell you anything.
>>96582251
I mean, it was an advantage to hit first, but it taught you how to screen and trade for stuff as well.

>>96582672
>the less I can picture the positioning that would put it there in that orientation
I bet this anon can't rotate an apple in his mind

>>96580117
40kuck detected

>>96582755
Green or red apple?

£2 each in Home Bargains happy days

>>96583131
They look like ps1 space fighters, nice.

>>96582755
Listen, you corkscrew charge, you fuckin' Tleilaxu facesitter, listen. My apple game is equal to any man's. Conan there would have had to drop his sword and sling her over both shoulders with her legs sliding off his arm to the rear to get that print, rather than leave his sword arm free and just carry her over one shoulder, the way I do with your mum when she's pleading with me to ravage her.

>>96582672
>AI slop
Calibrate your AI detector. That's made by a human, the artist was just dumb.
https://brutalgamer.com/2024/03/11/udon-partnering-with-titan-comics-for-conan-variant-cover/

>>96583174
Clearly she was not slapped by Conan but by somebody else.

This is the same model, right?

>AIvestigators are actually deranged
Nice.
Here's the cutie from the open combat book.

>>96583354
Sure looks like it.

>>96583373
Good, good. Just making sure. Thanks.

>>96582672
>I'm too angry that you posted AI slop to tell you anything
Your average schizoid internet warrior. ICK POT does art for half a decade now at least, multiple comics covers in their bio.
>b-b-but muh digital-only arti-
Nope, traditonal art as well.

>>96583452
Those are some tig ol bitties