Thread 96696264

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Malk won't get off this werewolf paranoia. Usually she's pretty reliable, but we've been keeping our eyes peeled and there's been no sign of them. The guys our host had us take care of sure as shit weren't werewolves, just weird paramilitary types. Still, we've decided to make a break for the east coast to shut her up, it's closer and more importantly very population dense, so it should hopefully assuage her werewolf fears. But it also means contact with other Cainites is more likely, especially Camarilla types that don't like our kind. Priest is already talking about needing to make emergency ghouls once we're past the blue ridge.

Wish us luck on the roads, we're leaving Fiendtown.

>>96696264 (OP) BASED OP image
Dude he's a malk, he's CLEARLY got MAAAAJOR OCD or something

>>96696335
I shamelessly stole it from an anon in the last thread

>>96696307
Your local lunatic isn't wrong. The wolves ARE watching you, but they aren't watching *you* exactly. They are watching your shadows from the space between light and shadow, watching the snarling curse that rides alongside our souls.
Odds are, they want to know if giving you all the Final Death would do anything useful in their eternal war against humanity's avarice, or if you are just trespassing where you don't belong.
Avoid anything reflective that is large enough for an angry dog to leap through until you put a hundred or so miles between you and where ever your oracle started freaking out.
I would HIGHLY suggest against making any ablative ghouls as well. They might not like humanity, but they hate us even more, and watching your pour your curse into another might flip the feral switch and send them moon mad after ya.
>>96696335
If you value your endless night, always heed the resident Malk. The fractured mirror of their mind reflects more of reality than our... your mostly intact one.

>>96696264 (OP)
The Camarilla arrived tonight.
The Methuselah came out as well.
part of the city has been a disaster zone, theyve been fighting since the sun went down.

What the fuck we just left and the whole area of our host's haven is on fire. We're tearing down the highway at fuck you speed, and we won't be stopping until the sun makes us bunker down. Will update when I can.

>>96696560
Got anything more actionable than "avoid mirrors", Mr. I Know Everything About Werewolves? They're magical savages, not noble savages. No such thing. I know silver is the only way to put them down short of hitting one with a truck and backing over it three times. Got a 12-gauge loaded with silver shrapnel right now.

>>96697175
Everything? Hardly. I just know more than most. It's not just mirrors. They were moving between worlds before mirrors existed, you know. It's any reflective surface. My first 'friendly' encounter started with them stepping out of a very shiny glacier cave wall I was hiding in.
They aren't savages either, even if they are savage. Nothing is stopping a wolf from dressing up like a Toreador going to Elysium or having a PhD. Do not think them simple beasts or brutes, even if they seem it.
Yes, silver is your best weapon against them, but your best defense is simply being beneath their notice. They have far better things to do spending their short lives on. You are making the best move and getting the fuck out of there.
That is really the single best move you can make if you suspect, even vaguely, that a pack of wolves is sniffing around you. Leave. Very fast and very far, before any of them decide to step out of a particularly shiny puddle.

Good to see this up again, I might pick up Scholar or some of the other characters if I can remember where I put the info. Welcome Back Frens

>>96697333
Why do I keep coming here, every night it's some new flavor of 'hey, this might fucking kill you if you even think about it in the wrong way'. Jesus Christ.
Ignoring the whole eternal war on avarice thing, because I should probably annoy my Sire about elevated concepts, it's her favorite thing in the world to be high-concept, what actively would piss a werewolf off more than just being a vampire in their vague vicinity does? What specifically to avoid doing if I don't want to get their attention? It's probably not something in my control at all, since, again, my Sire's in the picture, and there's other vampires around, so I'm probably already not very interesting to whatever werewolves might be around, but just in case.
>>96697333
>silver
What, it actually for real works, like in fucking fairy tales? I guess that explains a whole lot about my Sire's decorations of choice. So much silvery shit. Even her fence seems to be made of the stuff. She doesn't seem to mind huge mirrors much, though; is there any way to make a reflective surface not let werewolves through?

>>96696560
We are the seers for a reason
>>96697175
When hunting howlers, theres few problems silver wont fix, Fire is a good solution as well.
If all else fails, give them a good scratch, but only as a last resort.
Theres about 13 different things i could tell you, im certain you'll discern the nuggets of truth from my northern words, they tend to point people in the right direction

>>96696980
Whose side has the Methuselah been on so far?

>>96699752
independant. They were in the sleep of ages since before the convention. It was panicked, starving and angry. Its a miracle they contained it and prevented masquerade breaches
Dont know what clan to make it for my characters little lore story, arent most of the methuselahs named?

I'm in Chicago right now.

They unironically sent the fucking military to patrol the streets. "This was never going to happen" my fucking ass. Some bootlicker fledgelings came up with them. But keep it up, authoritarian retards don't know what's coming. Be sure you're in the correct side before we get things done.

>>96700281
It's always funny watching some of them try to make a deal with usthem. If they're lucky it's a trip to a blacksite, if they're unlucky some religious creeps will drag them away for... something. Guess the dead CAN be afraid.

>>96699793
Yeah but that 'most' still leaves a good window for original content, provided you act reasonable and don't make a hundred Methuselahs out of thin air. Besides, it's WoD, information is always flawed and most things are adjustible based on player and ST preference. Only a very deranged man is going to try to make Totentanz, Kuei-Jin, Mages and Mummies fit together, for instance. And ultimately, even splats themselves conflict about information, depending on the perspective. Look at how VtM treats the Beast vs what woofs say the Beast is. Imo if you're making a story, there always is going to be a narrative spot for an extra Methuselah, even in fifty years when there's a total of 500 named Methuselahs in official content. There's lots of options to make that work without any sort of canon bending and fuckery, too; for instance, check out the Feast of Folly, when Cappadocians got culled. 12,000 Cappadocian vamps, in the fucking Middle Ages. 12,000 vamps! From one clan! Sure, most of them were probably pretty fresh, and most of them died, and this was expressly an inordinate amount, but surely there were hundred of potential future Methuselahs there. And it wasn't even the full clan.

Update. Just got out of daysleep. Fuckin' hungry. Tried to make the argument we need shovelheads not ghouls but it didn't work. Which isn't surprising because it's a bad argument, I just don't want to be feeding a bunch of mortals. It's my blood and Ghouls piss me off. Disgusting junkie sycophants.

We're well out of the mountains now, can't even see the blue ridge anymore. Malk's partially calmed down. Hence why we need the ghouls. This is vampire country; we need protection against those who know how to hit us when we're asleep.

Nothing about last night made any sense. We stayed with that Tzimisce for three nights. We 86'd the world's best funded and worst trained hunters on the first night. Everything was silent for the next two, we know they didn't get a chance to signal for help. He'd held that domain, very unsubtly, for at least a century. But less than an hour after we leave and his haven is lit on fire? And it's a bad burn, turned into a small-scale forest fire before firemen put it out. Source: the internet. The timing is too specific to be a coincidence, but none of us saw it coming. Even the seer looked surprised when we saw the fire creep over the ridgeline, despite her harping on about not tarrying around the wolf. It's not even like that Tzimisce's domain was close to the mine, it was practically the over side of the state!

We're all headed out now to find ourselves some Renfields.

>>96697333
Please take the wolf dick out of your mouth. checked

>>96699564
Fire huh? Well, that's a double-edged sword, being what we are.

Buenos noches niños
How’ve things been? It’s good to see the site back up, the lepers are always hard at work teasing our secrets out of us. Things have been calm here. Our fool of a prince seems to have grown in wisdom some. He’s allowed a few more of my clan to stay under my supervision. It’s nice seeing fellow magisters near by. More wayward youth to put under my guidance. Even a fortunate shovel head.
>>96700794
Careful in those mountains. There are old things there. Older than the wolves and their spirits even.
Shame about your fiend friend’s domain. He may hold you liable for that. If so, well I can’t lie to you about your chances, but you have my sympathies.

Huh... Paragon has dissapeared... like it never existed. Lost all contacts in San Fransico and other places too. That's a shame.

Now I'm just floating in the Caribbean sea in the middle of nowhere. What the fuck?

My online group disbanded :(

>>96702090
:(

>>96702090
Break out the sad Jimmy Buffet music. Why don’t you head to key west? Plenty of swimmers and partiers to get wasted off of.

>>96702090
Now that is surprising! Is Paragon perhaps some form of mystical Terra Incognita? Should you desire something to occupy your time, Monsieur Shark, mayhaps you'd be willing to retrieve something from the Tremere chantry in Jacksonville? A small, oval gemstone about the size of a quarter, brilliantly green and perfectly smooth. It was embedded in the body of the late Prince/Sheriff and I'd like to study it.

Speaking of Princes, Harry and I managed to reunite with Baron Christopher and Monsieur Wu, whereupon we met with Prince Vigo. For a Gangrel, he's rather charming, even somewhat posh! Most of the talk was rather uninteresting: affirmations of a united front in the face of the Sabbat threat, discussions of resources that can be called upon, those sorts of things. Our next stop is Jaxport: Christopher received word of a boat that is due to arrive which is believed to be carrying additional weapons and fighters for the Sword of Caine. Since Jaxport is territory granted to the Giovanni by the former Prince, it would be unseemly for members of the Camarilla to be snooping around, so Christopher has offered to handle the situation as a gesture of friendship. Voyons ce qui se passe.

Sorry about your group disbanding.

>>96697705
Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge is power. Would you rather know how bad things really are before or after everything goes horribly wrong?
As for what actively pisses wolves off: The despoiling of nature. They worship the Earth Mother, and look at what humans, and by extension us, are doing to Her. Show you aren't about raping and pillaging the mother of all, and do a little ecological terrorism. Blow up an oil refinery, destroy a lumber mill, sink a fish trawler. Stuff like that.
Another tactic is to keep to the rhythm of life. We are static beings, locked in the moment of our deaths, unchanging and unnatural. Try to change, try to grow, try to act like you still have a heart beat and a belly that hungers for bread, not blood. Do not fall into the endless night routine like so many of our kind. The wolves can smell the pattern weaver upon you, and the second thing they hate the most is the pattern weaver. The pattern is also why your sire doesn't worry so much about having mirrors: The more static and stagnate a place is, the tighter the pattern between worlds, making it harder for the wolves to step between. Not impossible, but check if those mirrors are the classic silver backed sort. That's an extra layer of nope. If you want some subtle protection, get yourself a fist full of silver rings to wear. Both stylish and practical.
>>96700794
God forbid I share the experience I have with the young and ignorant about one of the few things lurking the night that even Elders shudder at the thought of. I have a very well earned respect for the eight foot tall walking murder machines, and you should too.

Waste of good goddamn blood... we got five mortals tied up in our temp haven, got them dosed with the first round of vitae. Two more nights of this crap and they'll be worth something. Nights like this I just feel the clan curse in the back of my throat, I wanna hit something.

>>96701053
English clearly isn't your first language if you think I'll need to worry about the Tzimisce. Fire that big? He's ash in the wind. That was an intentional burn, with clockwork precision right after we left. Final Death, no doubt about it. I'm trying to figure out the who and how. Also, we're well out of the mountains now. No more fucking werewolves. Now we just gotta be worried about Camarilla ghouls trying to torch us during the day.

>>96704016
God forbid you stop acting like an arrogant know-it-all is more like it. I've been Nomadic Sabbat for multiple decades, I know the basics of Werewolves. I've even had brushes with them before, one actually went violent. They're fast, they can come out of seemingly nowhere, their claws rip through almost anything, they don't fight fair and love jumping. Stay mobile, avoid anywhere with short lines of sight, avoid close combat. Silver bullets, the bigger the better. Best if you can single them out. Better if you can avoid them entirely. I respect them insofar as I respected a grizzly bear in life. I respect the threat they pose, but I don't respect them.

But this noble savage eco warrior crap is laughable. Besides which, if it actually was your tree-hugging dogmen behind the torching of our old host's haven, why the hell would they do an uncontrolled burn through an old forest? Doesn't make any damn sense. Cut the crap or shut the hell up.

>>96702090
my condolences

>>96704177
Again, I don't know it all. But I know more than most. My knowledge is pretty out of date, been half a century and change since I had my last friendly encounter, but their traditions have remained mostly unchanged since the era of sharpened stone and agriculture being a novel concept.
You are quite correct in the best method of fighting them, but we both know fighting them is an absolutely horrible idea, only done when there is no other option or you have stacked the odds so heavily in your favor that only a fuck up of literally epic proportions could turn it against you.
And they are most certainly not noble savages. They are warriors fighting an endless war with no chance of victory, because no matter how much they rip and tear, humanity's industrial might is something that a few angry hounds simply can not overthrow. No matter how many lumberjacks, roughnecks, miners and other despoilers of the earth they rip apart, there are an endless tide of humanity ready to replace them.
As for why they would torch the forest, when was the last time that forest caught fire? Because forest fires are a natural part of the world, and there are many plants that actually rely on them. Certain evergreens have cones that ONLY open when they are exposed to a forest fire. Cleansing the undergrowth allows new life to spring forth. If a tree can not survive the inferno, it will topple and allow saplings the chance to reach the sky.
These are not green peace flag waving hippies preaching peace and love. They are the embodiment of the phrase "Nature is red in tooth and claw."

>>96704016
>Would you rather know how bad things really are before or after everything goes horribly wrong?
That's a really uncomfortable question to think about. I mean, I guess I prefer being safer, and I sure am now. But life was easier back when I didn't know all this shit. And I still know barely anything, which is really bad, because now I have a vague idea of just how much shit is out there, potentially interested in disassembling me. Shit's worrying.
And it's not like I can really choose ignorance know, I'm not going to just somehow forget I am a vampire or that there's fucking werewolves out there who would tolerate my existence only if I spent some time fucking with Big Oil and Big Lumber and maybe Big Fish. So I guess knowledge's preferable.
It still kind of sucks. Especially the feeling of relative powerlessness. Like, the first month I was a vampire, it felt kind of great. If I drank enough I could lift a fridge like it's nothing, and even the little bit of magic fuckery I could do beyond that was really something. I don't really have to fight people, but to have that sort of power felt really good.
And I just keep finding out how little it actually matters in the greater scheme of things. Apocalyptic prehistoric vamps, flesh-shapers, blood-sorcerers, fairies who I bet are also spooky, and now werewolves who can possibly gut me through the mirror above my bathroom sink. Obviously, I was even more of a potential victim before I got made into a vampire, and I'm way better off now, but still.
>Not impossible, but check if those mirrors are the classic silver backed sort.
I have absolutely no clue how to check for that, but I can try. Until I do so, I guess a bunch are really old, especially a big one she keeps in her reading room? It's also one of the places where she keeps a shiny, maybe-silver sword, now that I think about it. Can Werewolves see shit reflective surfaces? Could it be some sort of 'don't fuck with me, please' statement?

>>96705234
See shit through*, hauling another fucking statue and posting from my phone in the gaps, condolences to whoever reads it. Again stuck with the Dreyfus nerd 'sister', btw, she is exactly as annoying but now about another 130-year-old piece of political gossip. At least this time the statue is not something human-sized, so maybe there isn't a Fiend hiding in it, unless it's a really, really small Fiend.
>>96704373
So they're all for survival of the fittest and nature being bloody, but they also don't like vampires more than humans, all while vampires seem like a sort of natural predator for humans. That sounds dumb, but I guess I'm not a nature-worshipping wolf man so I don't see the spiritual side of things, which apparently is there.
Thanks for the info, by the way, it's all appreciated. I'm definitely better off finding out werewolves exist now, and not when I see one step out of a reflective enough glass door or something.

>>96705277
To my, admittedly limited knowledge, Lupines posses factional divides much like our clans, with their own methods and philosophies. One of our founding temples in Egypt even has an alliance with a group of Lupines; albeit a rather shaky one. Mayhaps your Sire has a similar agreement? Could serve as a question for you to learn more about her, if you so desire.

>>96703428
Might take you up on that offer

>>96703547
I don't even know... I guess Paragon is a weird name for a city/island... perhaps I pissed off a Malk or Ravnos elder? I was on that place for months, and now I'm questioning reality

Well, sure. I might do your thing. Anything to come back to normalcy, or whatever passes for normal to a gore-enthusiast maniac like me

>>96705234
>>96704373

If ye’ve not friends enough to face a werewolf, ye’d best start makin’ some. They’re brutish things, most fearsome when their blood is hottest, but dull of wit all the same. Easy enough to trick, to trap, and to bring down with numbers. They were a terror in my younger nights, when a gun spat but a single shot, but now? Ye can lace the air with silver before they’ve loosed so much as a growl.

Still, never let them catch ye unawares. Keep to the darkness, better yet, become the darkness, and let the beast wither from within before it even knows yer there.

>>96699793
There could be more Methuselahs than conventionally assumed, especially from the clans and bloodlines that have a tendency to feck off and do their own thing. Hell, a lot of them probably might not even be recognizable as conventional Cainites

>>96704373
How on earth can I take you seriously when you claim to have had a friendly encounter with one of the fuzzy mongoloids, and every other word out of your mouth about them is full of reverence? "They're not noble savages, they're warriors fighting an endless war". The fuck are you, their PR guy? Ooh, they're so powerful, don't even think about fighting them unless you have more ghouls than God! But they get their asses kicked by sheer weight of lumberjacks? Fuckin' stupid.

We're so far into the 'burbs now that I can smell the astroturf. Makes hunting a pain in the ass. So you can drop the apologia for fuzzy wuzzy, because it isn't relevant anymore.

>>96702090
Must have been a true mage who removed it from existence.

>>96704373
yes yes werewolfs are quite strong, but generally speaking if you give them enough metaphorical rope they hang themselves, try asking them where the other werebears and werehogs went. or how killing a low wage pentex janitor or nature loving hiker is saving gaia.

Ok, how the FUCK are we supposed to make money? I'm (un)living wrapped up in a tarp in the back of my van (I have the windows taped over with cardboard, it is not ideal). I've run out of what little I had saved up from before, now I can't even afford to fuel up and move out of the Walmart parking lot. It's not like I can just get a job, and do not fucking suggest I work night shift, you're not funny.

>>96709814
Aye, I leave that to me Giorgios, I do. What need have I of coin? What I want I take, and seldom do I crave aught that calls for money.

>>96710315
Apologies for missing our rendez-vous, fair one.
As I neared the agreed-upon location, I spotted a pair of kindred stalking me from the gloom.

As of right now, yours truly is haunting the loft of an old Canal house.
Alas, I must attend to my guests.
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>>96705277
If the mirrors weren't made in the last century, they are 100% silver backed. Hell, might just be highly polished silver. I'm not sure if wolves can see through reflective surfaces like a window. The space between they travel is, for lack of a better world, entirely based on vibes. Would you consider your vibes to be rancid and in need to cleansing from the world? We are all monsters, but we don't need to be monstrous.
Kindred are not natural. We are walking corpses that burst into flames if exposed to direct sunlight, can defy the literal laws of physics with our disciplines, and remain completely unchanged by the ravages of time until our final death. We are a blockage in the cycle of life.

>>96707453
Yup. That's why I still exist. Surprisingly enough, there is a pack of wolves who actually prefer to use words before claws.

>>96708996
Take me seriously or take me the fool, I merely tell my stories and share my knowledge of the things I know. I think everyone would benefit knowing more instead of less about the wolves. You are always welcome to do your own research if you find my view biased.

>>96709802
No amount of fury can protect you from existential dread. I just avoid 'em as best I can, and point them in the direction of any new wildcat oil rigs I've seen if I can't.

>>96709814
Guessing you are a fellow feral freak. Ghoul yourself a murder of crows. Teach them to steal money, jewelry, coins and the like. You can also order house pets to give you all the valuables in said house. Turning into a cloud to break and enter also works.

>>96711554
ddo you have website i can use? don't wanna write my adress here

>>96712438
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>>96712482
great thank

>>96712406
How fares the countryside outlander? The Lycan have always assumed we are ridden with worms so they are hostile by default. We would probably get along much better if that assumption was disproven.
City folk like myself have been having a lot of trouble recently. the Methuselah has finally been steaked and shipped off to who knows where. It was an 5th Generation Brujah, turns out the coffin was found in ancient lebanon and moved here back in the 70s. It was being kept in the back of a museums deep storage until he woke up, very very hungry. My phone started telling me to HIDE about an hour before, so i heeded the clear warnings.
The city is going to take months to recover, we lost a good dozen or so locals.

Good night to all.

I am posting on behalf of a group interested in locating a Tzimisce fugitive. She most frequently refers to herself as 'Countess Palatine', Palatine for short from here on, because there's far too many Countesses to use that part of her title. She far too frequently goes through pseudonym given names, so listing any would be worthless. We've not thus far managed to tie her to a specific mortal identity, which is unsurprising given that she probably last was physically capable of passing for a regular mortal a long while ago. She still appears to be fairly old. Her latest period of activity dates back to around a month ago, focused on the East Coast of United States, specifically in Connecticut, but following our discovery of her activities and disruption of her efforts, she appears to have relocated elsewhere, possibly not to usual Sabbat strongholds.

The Prince of Bridgeport and surrounding areas offers appropriate rewards, from simple money and other physical objects to favors and such, to whoever provides valuable information on the location of the Palatine, or brings her corpse in. He also wishes to extend a warning to avoid dealing with her, as she's proven to be on the more dangerous and reckless end of the Sabbat spectrum, though I'd imagine that much is obvious. I've been encouraged to answer questions about her habits, her underlings, as well as her creations, if necessary, along with most other topics.

Attached is a reproduction of a portrait from one of her Havens. The original had a pulse, naturally.

>>96713840
Quite the specimen. I'll ask Mi Calliente if she knows her.

>>96696307
Like just so you know, the paranoia is non-negotiable. Even if you shift them off werewolves it will be something else.

>>96700281
>muh chicago
Is there anything worth noting there aside from the Start of Leyline 66 and being the first blood bank? It's a bit drole for Kindred to give two shits about authoritarianism considering. Place still smells of onions?

>>96709814
Lol break laws dummy. Hell most people find the swoon attractive enough that you can literally start a cult by feeding on people. Build a herd, make a product, sell smack. Better yet, go find the most productive criminals in your area and sell them IMMORTALITY, a few ghouls go a long way if your careful. Just stop being a chump, try to apply yourself,
>TRY TO TRY FLEDGELING.

>>96696264 (OP)
May your nights be uneventful. Lately, I've adopted a rise and grind mindset to cope with my stupid un-life. Whenever I'm not doing some inane errand with the coterie or studying thaumaturgy, I try to work on myself picking up odd skills here and there and trying to set up non-masquerade-breaking income streams. The only thing that keeps me pushing through all this busywork is the thought of pleasing my Sire. The way she looks at me when I get the hang of a new ritual or spell makes me so happy.

>>96709814
I work online gig jobs to pay rent. My nights are very busy. Do you happen to have a passion for graphic design or copywriting? Jokes aside, why not just steal the cash or ghoul some big money maker?

>>96711554
Do you have any sorcerer's grimoires, preferably uncursed? I can only pay with money.

>>96715581
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>>96715610
Eh, it was worth a shot. Another time then

>>96715610
How can you tell if it's a real mage's hand?

The frightening thing, Mark thought to himself, is that Detective Malkavian is actually an okay detective. Sure he’s talking to himself half the time, muttering about dutch angles (abhorrent) and modern media (horiffying), but he’s pursuing leads. He’s interviewing, he’s investigating. The last person to see the necklace, the local pawn shops, the local mystics. As a gumshoe, Detective Malkavian was okay. As a modern day detective, using the electric tools and surveillance, he was hopeless.

Mark didn’t know how old Detective Malkavian was but old enough, was his guess. That didn’t matter much to Mark. He didn’t actually want to solve mysteries, he hated mysteries. The chill up the spine was a clear sign for him to exit. On the rare chance that, despite his best efforts, a mystery found him, he reacted the same. He froze, he was aware of course. He wasn’t passed out. He turned rigid, like a statue. This had been how his sire had taken him, and it was his constant of these nights.

“Detective” He said trying to keep a happy infliction out of his voice “Another Dead End, Eh? Time to call it a night?” But Detective Malkavian was nothing if not determined. “No, we will have to use our enhanced methods.” The Detective nodded “Yes, I’ll need to speak with Tod.” “Todd?” Mark asked and when the detective nodded a second time, "Tod." Mark relaxed. Finally, something normal.

The next day, at the Abandoned Slaughterhouse, Mark realized that perhaps it would not be so normal. When he started seeing the stitched together statues, he realized. It would not be normal. Still Mark, the thrilling spring-steel of his nerves vibrating at an increasing frequency carried on. He would not disappoint his Saviour and sponsor. He stepped forward as Detective Malkavian sang out “Tod, Tod!” which echoed against the steel of the slaughterhouse.

>>96715757
It was then that Mark felt the hand against his shoulder from out of the darkness. He tried to scream but he could not , he tried to run but mark could not. He watched as Tod, walked by him. He looked skeletal but his ribs were too big , they were rent open and bent, moving, like a bug or eventually it dawned on Mark. Like a centipede. Mark watched in pant-pissing terror as the creature looked back, his face bisected. The Top half looking human almost mirthful from his top lip and up. A normal lip, a normal nose, a normal cheekbones, a normal set of eyes, a normal forehead. The bottom-half looked like something enlarged from a national geographic about ants, it was full of fangs, and mandibles and stiff bristling hairs.

It looked back glibly at Mark, seemingly recognizing and chortling at Mark’s paralysized terror as it carefully bringing a skeletal finger to it’s horror of a mouth as if to Shhhhhhh Mark before returning to creep on Detective Malkavian. He took one lurching but silent step as Detective Malkavian called out “Tod Tod” before checking back on Mark, posively gleeful but silent.

Two steps and looking at Mark again

Three steps and then

>>96715764
It pounces.

Mark wanted to warn Detective Malkavian but he couldn’t. The Two long skeletal creature with the Centipede middle leapt on the Malkavian, his middle wrapping about him like a bug his too tall arms. He wanted to help his mentor and sponsor , he wasn’t a coward. But he couldn’t do anything. He couldn’t move, he couldn’t speak.

He could only watch.

>>96715747
Whether or not you can do that sort of thing is what separates the pros from the cons!

>>96709814
I suppose there's a reason half of all Toreadors embraced in this century get an OnlyFans and/or similar websites' account.

>>96715865
>half
>>>half
You've just not been looking hard enough.
Even hunters are starting to notice.

>>96709814
>how to make money?
Ghoul a bunch of wannabe starlets in your local clubs and have them start their onlyfans. I got 10 under my belt currently and all it takes is just little bit of blood.
Start small fellow kindred, may your nights be uneventful.

>>96716013
Can we call hunters paypigs from now on? Pretty please?

>>96715769
What happened?!

>>96713921
Thank you, that is appreciated. In the case your Calliente, whatever they are exactly, doesn't recognize the title or the portrait, they may recognize the Palatine's handiwork, a thing called Mutihorn. It's still alive, if Tzimisce warbeasts count as alive. I'll need a bit to get the image we have of it, and censor some very particular elements of it. The thing is very, very conspicuous, and I personally suspect that she must've either had help making it, or at least bragged about it to other flesh-shapers of note, given how much trouble it gave me, the Prince, and my coterie every time any of us had the misfortune of encountering it.
>>96707453
On the subject of horrifying beasts, do you (or anybody else with experience in the matter) have any pointers for attempting diplomacy with werewolves? I believe I may have to do some in near future. Fleeing is not an option for me, and neither is trying to throw numbers at the pack in question. Do offerings of notable ecologically-damaging individuals, or some sort of specific items, help? Blowing up oil rigs and so on would be a bit much, but I think me and mine can manage to find a sufficiently replaceable oil executive or something equivalent.
And what else is there, besides offerings, being less of a problem than something else, and having common enemies?

>>96716112
FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON THE GLORIOUS ADVENTURES OF
>DETECTIVE MALKAVIAN

>>96716235
You just don't know with the wulvers. I guess they have their cliques the way we do. Most wulves however will kill vamps over more or less anything. it's a bit like a walking oilspill offering the exec, they'll probably kill the exec but they aren't going to let the walking abomination just walk away.

>>96713815
It is a rapidly cooling endless expanse of forest and tundra at the moment. I'm currently trespassing in the last weather monitoring station I know of, prepping for the long march across the endless night of the Artic circle. I figure plenty of us are worm ridden. How many of us have rotten, putrid souls beneath our flawless skin? And my sympathy at the bronze age bastard butchering your... friends? Or at least folks you didn't despise.
>>96713840
That shit is why the wolves want to kill us. Even I look at that and feel the urge to purge an abomination against the world. I am so thankful Fiends don't travel much.
>>96716235
If you can kidnap a CEO or some other high ranking despoiler of nature and offer the fucker to the wolves tied up and at their tender mercy, you will certainly have a foot in the door. Also, an offering of land works. Ensure some lovely piece of untouched wilderness remains untouched, and they'll hear you out. I am sure you've got the coin to achieve such.

With that, it's time for me to step out into the long dark. Gonna be a while, so stay safe out there.

>>96713921
>>96716235
And here is Mutihorn.
I can offer the following, if lacking, insight in the case you encounter this specific thing, or ones made with it as a template, which is a fairly concerning probability. Overall, high ground and tight spaces are an intuitive, yet sort of advantage to use against it. The thing is flexible enough to force itself into small buildings, strong enough to break through very thick, strong walls, and it can leap to frightening heights, along with bending its limbs at angles sufficient to, if violently and destructively, scale buildings. Its flesh regenerates with horrifying speed, its 'mane' and 'tail' are prehensile, usually at the worst and least expected times, its eyes operate individually, letting it focus on threats from all angles, and the gut-arms can open. Also, the fluids it spreads are a sort of alive acid, a mess of microorganisms that seek to dissolve flesh to multiply. It is very prone to charging at things if it can, so it is somewhat possible to bait it into doing that. Once it picks up sufficient speed, 70 or so miles an hour or more, it seems to struggle somewhat with steering. Which is usually a problem for whatever is in its way, not for itself.
It is not very pleasant to deal with.

>>96716382
>>96717343
Thank you for your advice and assistance. If I do not get incenirated by werewolf claw within a few months, I'll probably have this place to thank for that.
>I am sure you've got the coin to achieve such.
Easily, I was a yuppie in mortal life and my Sire insists I maintain that lifestyle and the income. My accountant will not be content with me buying a random piece of, let's say, Maine land for 'recreational purposes', especially since it'd really be just a dead weight I'd be best off eventually signing off to some sort of wildlife charity as to not have it hang over me uselessly, but getting chewed out by a mortal is an okay price for having a bargain chip with the werewolves. I'm surprised just bribing them with nature preserves isn't a more common strategy of dealing with them, if it actually works.
I guess they don't quite tolerate oil spills trying to game the eco-warfare system. Hopefully it works out at least once.

May you return safely.

Is it weird that I still get seasonal depression? Does that make me a thinblood?

Greetings all, I am using Scholar's account to inform you that he is currently in mourning as his eldest childe has passed away and thus is unable to take part in discussion and conversation however he wishes you all well.
-Kakophoni

>>96716235
>whatever they are exactly
She is a Mexican Tzimisce. She's been moving her haven into Texas after the sabbat didnt take kindly to her joining the Camarilla. I speak to her over the phone, we're quite close.
>>96717360
Quite the Vohzd! based on its difficulty steering when charging i think you could possibly lure the hideous mess over a canyon? let it go splat perhaps?
>>96717343
were quite wormy, but not in the way the Lycans think.
And thank you, I was quite neutral with the neighbours as they disregarded me due to me being moontouched. Oh well, its free real estate as they say. Glad i dont have to worry about that Methuselah going on another rampage.

>>96720119
Oh dear! My sincerest condolences to him. May you please ask him what happened to that coffin he took custody of? The one that the Snake found?

>>96717343
She's somehow worse in-person. Those little spider-bug legs have to skitter a lot on account of that her 'dress' is a weird, flat slug-like foot concealing extra limbs and tools. At least while I had to deal with her, she put on this slightly whimsical, noble lady routine, especially when talking about her magic unicorn. And the hat talks. Mostly gibberish, but still. Our Prince considered trying to goad the werewolves into solving this problem for us, but unfortunately, they proved extremely annoying to even try contacting, and given some of the things the Mutihorn did, I'm starting to worry them being more reclusive than usual, while we were dealing with the Palatine, was a matter of experience and a lack of desire for further casualties.
>>96720683
Oh, hopefully she does know something, then. No matter if she does, please, offer her the kindest regards from the Kindred of Bridgeport, and an apology if our history with the Palatine upsets her in some way.
>Quite the Vohzd!
I am not entirely sure it is exactly one of those; while I am fortunate to not have seen any Tzimisce things in-person before dealing with the Palatine's, I've gone through some archives and documentation. There are some differences from the usual Vozhd template. For starters, it had a sort of intelligence, howling from its mouths to mimic voices, though it had only so many vocal chords to work with and didn't seem to wholly understand how speech works. We've seen it feed on Kine. Its teeth and horn at times hurt Kindred flesh as bad as fire does. Maybe the thing is a Vozhdt built on a frame of a vampire, or with werewolf pieces, or it's just what happens when a Tzimisce labors on a Vozhd extensively? I'm unsure.
>i think you could possibly lure the hideous mess over a canyon? let it go splat perhaps?
There's very few usable places like that near Bridgeport. We tried to hit it with a freight train, and that mostly slowed it down for the time it needed to repair itself.

>>96720698
Or better yet, don't ask him. Le culot de certaines personnes!

>>96720987
what a freak

>>96720987
>We tried to hit it with a freight train, and that mostly slowed it down for the time it needed to repair itself.
That's useful information. Thats about 30-60 MW of energy and from the sounds of it, forced the creature to its knees (well ahh arm enwrapped subfaces) until it could recover. How long it took to repair itself would be useful. Presuming the lower end for Freight trains ( as I doubt you have convenient trains loaded to the max with iron ore) and the attack being the one it liked has the most resistance to normally unsupernatural blunt kinetic force, you could likely get away with weapons in the 3 MW range repeatedly striking it. Or perhaps even one attack with a more favourable damage? I doubt it loves fire, 3MW is roughly 100 lbs of dynamite for example. Its guesswork but that's a very doable number. Even if its a ton of dynamite, still very much in reach with only basic logistics. at 100lbs that's roughly five stingers or maybe 25 RPG-7's. Hell most air to surface missiles should be able to roast the thing.

This is what I dislike, all of that suffering for what. To bully people on foot? Peasents. Would not your effort have been better directed to just embracing an emotionally disturbed delinquent if that was your purpose? Hell a handful of ghouls would do better. Instead we have this Eyesore and Masquerade breach wandering around because some idiot from the 17th century couldn't get over hands.

It's tiresome. However, it does bring to mind a certain question. Given how in human warfare, dominant air power is, Do kindred keep an Airforce? Sure everyone loves the party van full of ghouls in maxtac outfits, but at the higher levels of military coordination say the wing or company. How many do you have stuck in ready to pull a heatseeking missile for you in the middle of an urban zone? The military for all its faults, loves the sun. Sure ghouls, but still. A private kindred Airforce. Has charm.

You guys ever seen a fat vampire? Why don't fat people get embraced? Isn't that weird?

>>96725087
I was fat before. I lost close to 140 lbs the week following my embrace.

>>96723866
Well I mean “air” koldunists like myself can bring down small aircraft with precision lightning strikes or just riling up Tengri himself to make foul flying weather. Beyond that, sadly the laws of these states united WRONGFULLY PROHIBIT ME FROM OWNING ANTI-AIRCRAFT WEAPONRY. RADIO-PERIMITER ACTIVATED FLAK GUNS ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT BY GOD, AS ARE TANKS, SELF-PROPELLED ARTILLERY, APACHE ATTACK HELICOPTERS, AND OHIO-CLASS BATTLESHIPS. I WILL CONJURE UP THE DAMNED APIRIT OF BENJAMIN FRANKLIN AND HAVE HIM WRITE IN PLAIN ENGLISH SO IF DEMANDED OF ME.

>>96720987
Forgive for going against the grain, but her work is marvelous! Such fortitude and endurance is laudable! I’m more of a loving furniture and hallways of scream/moans myself though. >>96709814
I opened a bar for all kindred (even the hated tremere) to come and drink/fight/party/whatever they wanted to. It’s worked out well. Thankfully I already owned farmland before hand though and was well established by ancestral oil rights.

>>96726102
>fortitude and endurance
I guess like any engine it must run on something? Is it that efficient? Could you just starve the creature out ?

>summon Benjamin Franklin
This is fascinating, Can you summon specific spirits on whim? Surely there must be great mysteries that could be solved that way?

>>96719688
Methinks you're of a depressive disposition. My sire was like that. I haven't seen him move in years. I'm not even sure if/when he slipped into torpor because his eyes still occasionally react to light

>>96720987
Do you licks ever wonder if there's enough human in the Fiends' meat muppets to be embraced? Ughhh

So quick asks if anyone knows this for sure. But say a vampire gets frozen solid during the depths of winter. To the point all of the blood in your body freezes and your flesh goes full on ice mummy. Will a vampire die if that happens to them? Or will will just go into torpor or be paralyzed and awake the whole time we are frozen?

Also if we are frozen like that and we live what happens to us if we get touched by fire in that state or get exposed to the dim rays of the winters sun? Do we still burn to the finale death like normal? Or is our body so cold and solid at that point we can not burn anymore as long as we stay in our frozen environment and condition?

Or something that has most likely been tested and experimented with more often by our more underwater inhabiting kin. If we are fully submerged under water like in a pool do we still fear fire as i know at that point we will not be burned by it? And will the sun still kill us if we are submerged in clear waters?

Is water truly our best defense from fires of all kinds? Or is that just a dead end for research and i am just wasting my endless time looking for protections that are just not there to find?

I mean old Lasombra was a sea born pirate for many many years before he got tired of the waves. And he still ventured under water to the depths of the seas all the time for long periods of time if the old stories the elders tell about him are true. What was he looking for in the waters of the world if he spent so much of his unlife on or under the waves away from the blood of humans and his fellow kindred that he needed to even keep on existing?

Does water have any magical powers to protect us at all from the wrath and rage of the flames? Or have the waters of life truly left us for dead?

Just filled a werewolf with enough fent to kill 200 people for shits and giggles
How long do I have till it wakes up
I'm bottling the endless blood to sell to Wizards and Cains Crackeads

>>96727401
I mean at a certain point the Fiends will have fucked up there victims bodies so much that there is no way for them to survive without our blood flowing thru what is left of the poor fuckers veins. So they have to be gouled at that point at least. And the Tzimisce will never stop with there experiments with the flesh and blood of others until even a ghouls body gives out. So at that point if a Fiend wants to keep going even further with that pile of meat it has left it will have to turn it into a vampire to keep working with it.

Now that real thing to ask is if a Tzimisces art project that it was working on since the poor fucker was still human but died and was turned into a vampire by the blood of the Tzimisce ever learned enough flash crafting from what was being done to it by its sire that such a broken soul was ever able to fix its self enough to regain enough control of its own life that it was able to save its self from its master and run away and escape and make a new life for its self as a clanless Tzimisce vampire?

>>96725087
I've seen a few
Blood doesn't have many calories and fat is useless energy storage for a corpse
You do shit pure fat for like a month if you're really big or a Nozzie
Also there's rare cases that you are permanently obese with only surgery helping
Perodua the Paunch is the only 600 pound vampire that I know of and he can warp fucking time

>>96727518
I mean it depends on what kind of werewolf you did this to? If it was a hobo werewolf or a fucked up one with black spiral markings of its body you may have just made it much much stronger when it wakes up.

So it may be best to run for your unlife before that thing shreds your undead ass to grave grass, rolls you up in the torn up remains of your cloths, then smokes you like the fool you are.

>>96727518
This cannot possibly backfire

>>96720698
Disposed of it, he never said how and I know better to pry.
>>96721944
Greetings Miss Bleus, I don't know much of what happened with the sarcophagus but I wish you well.

Are any of you pricks having half as bad a night as I am right now? Seems we've been found. Malk's dead, not by Werewolf hands though. I fuckin' told em making all those ghouls to satisfy a flight of fantasy was a bad idea.

I want to make it clear, just in case it wasn't, that any hostility from Nomad to any character is just him being a low humanity (yes, humanity) Brujah Antitribu and former shovelhead under a lot of stress.

>>96726102
What would happen if you performed 'air' koldunism at the same time I perform weather working, mon cher? Would they cancel each other out? Would they increase in strength? Hmmm....

>>96727779
I appreciate the thought, Kakophoni. I just really do not enjoy being reminded of one of the most humiliating experiences I've had in my two-and-a-half centuries.

>>96727447
>So quick asks if anyone knows this for sure. But say a vampire gets frozen solid during the depths of winter. To the point all of the blood in your body freezes and your flesh goes full on ice mummy. Will a vampire die if that happens to them? Or will will just go into torpor or be paralyzed and awake the whole time we are frozen?
I am relatively certain you would not die if you were completely frozen, though it would not be an enviable position to be in.

>Also if we are frozen like that and we live what happens to us if we get touched by fire in that state or get exposed to the dim rays of the winters sun? Do we still burn to the finale death like normal? Or is our body so cold and solid at that point we can not burn anymore as long as we stay in our frozen environment and condition?
I am, however, quite confident that a frozen vampire will still burn if touched by the light of Ra,.

>Or something that has most likely been tested and experimented with more often by our more underwater inhabiting kin. If we are fully submerged under water like in a pool do we still fear fire as i know at that point we will not be burned by it? And will the sun still kill us if we are submerged in clear waters?
You will still burn even while underwater, should the accursed light of Ra fall upon you. The lightless depths offer sanctuary, though you will probably have trouble finding sustenance. Monsieur Shark can probably provide more details on a watery existence. Whether the sight of fire induces Rötschreck even underwater will most likely depend upon the strength of your will, as it does with every vampire.

>>96727518
This seems awfully familiar. Have you ever been to St. Augustine, per chance?

>>96728096
My night has been going rather swimmingly actually. I only needed to conjure some severe weather to provide some cover for Monsieur Wu and the rest of Baron Christopher's men while they investigated Jaxport, so I'm well away from any harm. Merci d'avoir demandé!

S'all good.

>>96728096
shit's gone sideways, family dog needs to be put down and the appointment got moved to 1 hour from the time of typing this

>>96728286
damn nigga, my condolences

Guys, I am sending this message through some kind of wizard...

Somehow I have been sent into the past, and guess by my pic which side of history I'm on.

So this new adventure is about to start for me, sorry if I accidentally erase you all from existence by changing history. Shit happens, and I like to stir shit up. Wherever, and whenever I go.

>>96729072
wooh, someone drank a crackhead a bit too much

>>96728096
Spill the deets, shovelman.

>>96729423
Going to the 'burbs was a bad idea. Making a bunch of ghouls was a worse one. Even though we've been moving around it seems that many disappearances in a not totally shitty county caught the attention of a vampire. Werewolves might be big and scary, but nobody understands how to kill a vampire better than another vampire. We're out of our element, Nomads that we are.

Malk and I were out on a midnight stroll, scouting for signs of Camarilla activity incognito. Priest said that we'd been at each other's throats and so needed to work it out. As we're walking across a bridge, we see three people in decent clothes, kinda preppy. All of them looked alive. Blush of life is a bitch. Right as we're walking past and I'm debating on if they're good prey, the one in the front says something like "excuse me sir", I turn to face him, meet his eyes and he says "could you STOP MOVING for a moment?" he didn't scream the stop but it stuck in my end. I couldn't move, I stood there mesmerized. His cronies, a man and a woman, jumped my packmate in the same motion. Man held her down, woman gouged her eyes. I wanted to rip their fucking heads off, but I couldn't. The Ventrue, I know that's what he is, gave me this shit eating grin as he pulled a short blade from inside his coat. He said some shit to me, I can't remember the details, then put his boot on my packmates' forehead and cut clean through her neck.

Her blood, I'd tasted it dozens of times before in the vinculum. This time it smelled so sweet. I wasn't hungry, I've been feeding just fine I swear but something in me snapped. I felt the beast overtake me in a way it's never overtaken me before. I came to under the bridge. They must've knocked me off it to escape my frenzy. She was afraid of wolves in the dark and it was some whelp ventrue bitch fuck that killed her! This can't stand. Nobody fucks with my pack. We'll burn the county to the ground to avenge her if we have to.

>>96728096
I've got three jobs pending on upwork but I can't get to them because the dickhead self-appointed leader of the coterie has decided that tonight's a good time to scope out a neighbouring Anarch domain for any "opportunities". Whatever he lacks in forethought he surely makes up for in hubristic ambition. As the group's sole and esteemed thinblood, I've been tasked with driving everyone to said Anarch domain later this afternoon. It's about a four hour drive so we'll have to leave early and if all things go well, we'll get there by sunset.

Now, just because I'm thinblooded doesn't mean it's easy for me to drive while the sun's out. I still don't understand why that blue blooded bastard couldn't just get one of his ghouled "captains" to drive us there or why we needed to go there in person at all. I've half a mind to drop his sleeping corpse somewhere bright and sunny. I really, really hope that the Anarch doesn't take this road trip as an act of aggression because I have no idea what the six of us are supposed to do against a pissed off lick on their home turf.

The Ventrue on this site actually convinced me that the Ventrue are all intelligent and strategic vampires who value competence and success. My Ventrue—let's just call him Vinnie—is an egomaniac who just has to have last word no matter what.

But enough self-pity. Does anyone have any advice on staying alive while stuck with a wannabe Prince?

>>96719688
I don't think so. I haven't felt depressed since the Embrace. Though I think I came close to it once when my Sire refused to see me for a period of two months

>>96729589
Damn, sorry for what happened to your friend. The Vinculum must be quite the bond

>>96729589
My condolences nomad. The ventrue and their dominate is nothing to underestimate. Especially unsuspected. Know that hell very likely awaits him, sooner than later.
>>96728191
Dunno cara mia. Experimentation is always fun with another though!
>>96727217
>starve the creature
Depends on the artist’s creation methods. Some are still “mortal” others so full of vitae they are closer to kindres than ghouls. I’ve met one flesh-steed who still grazed on grass. Ate the occasional child too, but that was like a one time thing.
>summon specific spirits?
HEAVILY depends on circumstances and that particular person’s willpower/determination. Most I’ve worked with just scream as their consciousness returned to them and offeres no insight to the afterlife. Athletes, serial killers, and people who rose from poverty, or were willing to crush anyone underfoot to succeed have the most mentality to them. Mind you, these are all ACTUALLY from what we would call hell. I can’t do actual necromancy. I draw the line at corpse-fucking UNLIKE THOSE DISGUSTING DAGOS.

>>96729072
Shark, my pic was for you. Slaughter a few batallions in Stalingrad for me buddy!

>>96729711
Well, as a Ventrue who is, I guess, aberrant like your Vinnie, albeit in different ways, I would suggest aiming his neuroses in a productive fashion. We're stubborn and headstrong as clan traits, perhaps as some sort bleedover aspect of Fortitude being our brand.
So, you can't fix Vinnie, Vinnie is going to be stuck like this for the rest of his unlife. Therefore, you should just work with what he is. He wants to always win arguments? That's fine. Let him. It being that easy to placate him is convenient, you can give him what he wants, he'll be happy, you'll be happy because he'll be less annoying. He makes risky calls, like that Anarch drive? Not great, but you can still work with that, mostly by way of throwing ideas before him in just the right way, let him think he's come up with them, and also making it so he is the one responsible for those ideas more often. It's hard to manage, sure, but a proper Ventrue feels responsibility, not just a sense of superiority. Your Vinny should have a gnawing in the back of his head whenever he tries to make a call to be there and make sure the call is correct, that the plan he proposes goes through, so on and so on.
>>96726102
It's attractive in its own way, but my fascination with the amount of work and ritualistic complication required to make a death-unicorn is somewhat sabotaged by that I nearly got mauled by said death-unicorn. 'Unicorn' as a cause of Final Death would, no doubt, give me bragging rights somewhere in Hell, but it'd be a consolation prize, at best.
>>96723866
>How long it took to repair itself would be useful
It went from 'vaguely horse-shaped sack of organs and bone chunks' to 'again running around faster than a thing that size should' in five or so minutes. Bones snapped back in place and reformed from pulverized chunks in maybe half a minute, with flesh reforming slower but still visibly and effectively. Not sure if it was as fast as it could heal - we took the opportunity to flee.

>>96730807
*connection fizzling, perhaps it will be more stable tomorrow*
Will try buddy, though for now the fun has barely started. We're in 1933 and things are getting into motion. If I don't make it out of the past, or I'm in a separate timeline instead of our past, then have one last look at this magnificient face.

I will try to give news soon!

>>96727573
>>96727775
He's just got a three finger claw mark on his face so don't know exactly what flavor of dog but I do know he's extremely stupid stubborn and charismatic
When it wakes there's a baby's first investigation set up where the fool will learn of "The Lord Vampire" which is just an insufferable extra ugly Nozzie Anarc who keeps eating my pet bunny's

>>96728260
Every so often to sell to the incredible amount of Hermetic and Faith Wizards who live nearby
Most of it is junk like a soup bowl that allways makes your soup too salty or a lighter that gives off a strong rose smell
>Good stuff is for high rollers

>>96732820
I'll try out that strategy. Vinnie seems to think he's a special case. He's let it slip in the past when he was in a particularly indignant mood that he was only embraced around 17 years ago. Forgive me if I'm wrong but that's a bit young for a Ventrue to be running around indepedently isn't it?

Anyways, based on what I've gathered from the rest of the coterie, we're all here thanks to boons that Vinnie (or his sire—probably his sire) accrued over that time and decided to cash out last year. I don't have the full picture yet but these are what I think are the motives of each member of the gang, not their real names:
>Lorna, Nosferatu, 33 years dead—the oldest one among us. Some time ago, she moved out of the city's common Nos tunnels. Vinnie had a role in getting her all the hardware she wanted and access to the internet
>David, Toreador, 27 years dead—pretty straightforward actually, David is obsessed with swords. Vinnie got him a big fancy sword—a Damascus Zweihander, I think he called it—from a master swordsmith back in Europe. That's it. This was back before the big HEMA boom so I guess it was harder to get your hands on stuff like that back then. Sword enthusiasts, please feel free to chime in.
>Blair, Brujah, 25 years dead—Former shovelhead. There was a pretty big Sabbat attack during the turn of the millennium. From what I hear, it was a week long blitzkrieg. The Camarilla managed to finish off the invading pack after taking heavy kindred and kine casualties. The survivors set up an accelerated Adoption and Accounting scheme where any willing ancilla or elder could adopt a shovelhead of their choosing in exchange for a reward from the Prince. Blair was one such adoptee. I haven't been able to figure out who her adoptive Sire is yet though my prime suspect is the current Brujah Primogen. Much like myself, she's here out of an obligation to her sire.
>Diana, Gangrel, 25 years dead—Also former shovelhead, same deal as Blair.

>>96727563
That is so god damn gross, I didn't know we did that

>>96734306
It's actually way worse when you learn there's many different ways your undead body purges the fat
Some are sweating pure grease, puking chunks ,screaming shits to it falling off like a bag of potatoes if your a Nosfrotu
Gangrel have a ritual where it's eaten by ghouled animals and Tzimisce create the finest of TnA or living batteries
How do you think flesh havens have power?

>>96734503
>finest of TnA
Can confirm, Tzimtzim ghouls are more thigh than bone by weight.

>>96734032
>a Damascus Zweihander
is he travelling with it? getting controlled would be funny lol

>>96734032
Well, I've been dead for just five years, and my Sire insists on making me operate mostly autonomously with the coterie I am not quite willingly managing. He maintains this approach to a reasonable degree, stepping in during incidents like the Palatine, where he anyways is compelled to act due to his rank. That's all good, by my personal assessment - I am a Ventrue, it is my right and my duty to be the one raising a sword when needed, as opposed to letting somebody else risk themselves by doing so.

While I do not have the right to disclose in-clan proceedings and customs, I believe it would not be a shocker to say that every Ventrue Sire approaches the matter of heirs slightly differently, but there are some pronounced approaches. Some do prefer a sink-or-swim approach, as to build up autonomy and independence and a lack of reliance on Sire babysitting, which is somewhat my case, for what I believe to be fairly good for me in the long run reasons. Some instead prefer to very carefully groom and raise their Childe, letting them act at all in the night only after a decade or two of tutoring.

I've even met a fairly old Ventrue who were raised from actual childhood to the age of twenty-five by their Sire, then Embraced, then taught everything there is to vampiric life for somewhere in the ballpark of fifty years, before they ever walked in the night alone. The result was fearsome, to be sure, and exceedingly wise, as illustrated by that they did survive for centuries afterwards. So, Vinnie, in the grand scheme of things, certainly is a more sink-or-swim sort of Childe. Seems to be either a result of his attitude, or perhaps the cause of it. Could also be that his Sire is just not in the picture whatsoever, and he's just keeping it a secret to avoid letting it be known that he's an orphan? That's a risky thing to be.

>>96734032
Well, I've been dead for just five years, and my Sire insists on making me operate mostly autonomously with the coterie I am not quite willingly managing. He maintains this approach to a reasonable degree, stepping in during incidents like the Palatine, where he anyways is compelled to act due to his rank. That's all good, by my personal assessment - I am a Ventrue, it is my right and my duty to be the one raising a sword when needed, as opposed to letting somebody else risk themselves by doing so.

While I do not have the right to disclose in-clan proceedings and customs, I believe it would not be a shocker to say that every Ventrue Sire approaches the matter of heirs slightly differently. Though there still are certain major lines of thought. Some do prefer a sink-or-swim approach, as to build up autonomy and independence and a lack of reliance on Sire babysitting, which is somewhat my case. Some instead prefer to very carefully groom and raise their Childe, letting them act at all in the night only after a decade or two of tutoring.

I've even met a fairly old Ventrue who were raised from actual childhood to the age of twenty-five by their Sire, then Embraced, then taught everything there is to vampiric life for somewhere in the ballpark of fifty years, before they ever walked in the night alone. The result was fearsome, to be sure, and exceedingly wise, as illustrated by that they did survive for centuries afterwards. So, Vinnie, in the grand scheme of things, certainly is a more sink-or-swim sort of Childe. Seems to be either a result of his attitude, or perhaps the cause of it. Could also be that his Sire is just not in the picture whatsoever, and he's just keeping it a secret to avoid letting it be known that he's an orphan? That's a risky thing to be.

While I was out apparently a wild-eyed mortal threw a Molotov through our window. We're on to the backup location. Smart move would be to cut and run, there's no chance rich boy won't run behind the Sheriff's skirt now that he knows how many of us there are. But we can't let this go unanswered.

Running out of night, our Nossie is going to use the animals to find him or his ghouls based on my description.

>>96729711
>>96729740
Thanks. I'd like to give you advice right now but I'm in no state for it. The vinculum it's a blood bond to be sure, and a real insidious one at that. Better than being some Elder's bitch but it's so subtle you don't notice it until you lose a packmate.

>>96730805
People like to quake and shiver at the weird clans with the weird disciplines, but in matters of scale, their mastery of the mind is worse in my reckoning. It's easy to beat up a durable rich kid with hypnotism if you know what you're doing, but these fucks can turn anyone and everyone into a Manchurian Candidate, attacking us with mortals without threatening their little masquerade.

>>96735895
The worst part is that Ventrue do not even need there mind control tricks to get mortals to kill vampires without breaking there masquerade. There real trick is that they know how money and power works better than anyone else in the entire world.

If they want you dead all they have to do is pay a dirtbag gangbanger or a crazy pyromaniac to burn down any hiding place you are hiding from the sun. And there never needs to be any magic of any kind involved at any point. So even if you have set up some form of magical defenses or detection you most likely wont see you killer coming after you as anything more than the normal human it is before they burn you to death in your sleep.

Real power is not about the big shows of force that get you attention. It is about getting rid of problems without making even more problems later for yourself.

Your pride and anger are telling you to say in the city and get even with the ones that killed your pack mate. Your reason and logic are telling you to cut and run from the city before the sky falls on you and the rest of your pack. If you want to live to see the next night you should listen to reason.

>>>96633819
>I think I recall you. Nosferatu right?
Never actually disclosed what I am. Purposeful. Last thing I wanted was the sheriff reading my posts and getting suspicious.

Think I'm gonna keep it that way.

>>96733877
I see. I only ask because last year we had an issue with a gang of young Anarchs that had a Lupine chained up and were giving its blood out for money and favors. They all met Final Death in the end, but now I'm wondering if they picked up the idea from you?

Ment to reply sooner, but dislocated my shoulder reaching for a sketchbook yesterday and it left me pretty drained afterward.

>>96735796
The day I meet a Ventrue who doesn't have an overinflated sense of accomplishment for things I learned as a little girl is the day I believe in the Gehenna Prophecy of Noddist scripture and walk into the sun.

>>96696264 (OP)
Favor Listing: Nosferatu in need of Tremere willing to Technomancy Rituals

So it turns out other magical things can magic the internet and computers and crap and apparently we were getting some close calls with them. Our shit is still hidden via auspex requirements but our higher ups still think we need better protections. So I'm putting up an essentially job board here to ask any tremere will to teach us some thaumaturgy or some shit so that we can get some apparaent wards up in the servers and connections.

Payment: A tier 5 nosferatu clan favor that may be cashed in at any point, as well as a new computer that we'll personally make.

Accepting all help

>>96737655
Umm look i know you are trying to be proactive about a actual and vary big problem we vampires have to deal with now in this new digital age. And i thank you and the rest of your clan for putting so much time and effort into protecting all of us from the threats and ravages of this new age.

But the problem is that every supernatural being i have ever heard of that manipulates and controls technology with there personal abilities and magics does so by being born with the powers and abilities to mess with technology.

Asking the Tremere to set up blood magic protections on our computers so as to help protect us all from being killed from our monitor screens. Well that would be much like asking an average professional swimmer to out swim the fastest fish in the world in a race. It just will not work out for any of us vary well if we place that bet.

If we were to protect ourselves in the way you are asking us to we would need a entirely new bloodline of vampires to arise that have an entirely new and powerful discipline that is all about interacting with and controlling technology in the ways our fellow night folks do so.

If we can not do that. And i do not think that is a hidden power of the blood that we can ever gain. Well we would just be much like Sisyphus trying to uselessly roll a boulder up a mountain for the rest of time. We will never outmatch those that are born to that kind of power with our knockoff bootstrapped versions of Technomancy.

Sadly the elders may be right once more and it is just for the best of us all if we have nothing to do with and form of advanced technology anymore lest it be used to destroy us. The luddite path may be the only real path forward left to us anymore.

>>96711554
Do NOT download.
I wanted to verify the fact of course not theory yet confirmed that in fact Father talks tacitly to us through us yet my fear that googling glossolalia of Gehenna goes to gouging from the gangs of Prince. Had Horn however (of abundence) acted in accordance with the ad, were the pixels wobbly on the screen when web was surfed and was the eye a-twitch in talk from strangers? No. No. Nothing is arbitrary as I forget and access is slowed on machine. Obvious is now, Odysseus was Horn. Vitae is vanished and I suspect the status of Staircase Panfall is non-ontological

>>96734032
Just got to the outskirts of the Anarch Domain. Blair's taken the driver's seat. Lorna's giving us a brief history of the area. This place started out as a logging camp in the late 1800s. Some time in the 1960s, several manufacturing companies came to town and set up shop due to easy access to the railroad and fresh water from the nearby river. With the factories came the Anarchs who claimed the town as their own. Even back in its heyday, the population of the never exceeded a hundred thousand and that number has dropped precipitously since the 80s. Vinnie estimates that based on current population size, there are probably only three or four of the Anarchs left.

We're approaching the center of the town now, I haven't seen a single person outside the entire time—no cops, no homless, no gangs, nothing. It gives me the creeps. Maybe the people around here are early sleepers? I dont like it.

>>96735707
No, tonight he brought a... I don't know what it's called. A sword stick? It's a two and a half foot double-edged sword with a two foot long shaft for a handle. The handle's wrapped in dark red leather and the blade has an almost matte black finish.

What do you mean by getting controlled?

>>96735796
Duly Noted. I'm fairly certain I've met his sire at least once. When I was brought before the Prince for my accounting at Elysium, I saw Vinnie and the rest of the coterie among the assembled kindred. Vinnie was standing a little bit apart from the rest of the audience and right next to him was a very stern looking man in an exquisitely patterned tailcoat.

>>96696264 (OP)
I feel a strong and sudden urge to journey to Mesopotamia and fight someone there. Has anyone else experienced this? My ghouls are busy making travel arrangements as I speak. I think I'll bring the belt fed shotgun and me old sword and buckler. Maybe a few grenades for good measure.

>>96737241
I've done this many times and occasionally "sell" my catches to who think 11th gen dominate is enough
>The anarcs you're referring to traded a ghouled Tzimisce crafted human, her names Goose and loves to watch deep sea footage
I'm running out of enemy's to send them to, and stay away from Dayton Tennessee for a few months
Seems the Nosfrotu who ate my sweet innocent bunny's had more influence than assumed, now we have a Primogen vs pack war but I'm 9k up and have three 5 gallon jars of red gold so don't care

The worst of things keep happening and I've not taken any name in vain that I recall to cause such avalanche of adversity. Cats laugh at me and thunderbolts don't stop, it's only this ball of fur in my pocket that keeps company. Keeps me cool, one enjoys that.

>>96740344
I had a brujah methuselah wake up beneath my home city, i can relate.
>>96739651
I had a bout of visions about being in the desert under a red moon. There wet sand, it got wetter and wetter until it was red, the sad started talking. i cant remember what it said, but when i awoke in the evening every part of me felt compelled to leave for Israel. i spent a good few weeks isolated contemplating this and then it stopped.
>>96732944
KILL MAO XEDONG
KILL MAO XEDONG
>>96727518
Dont drink lycan blood, it will mess you up more than my clans blood.

>>96737655
>Accepting All Help
Is that true? Are you open to ahh "outside" contractors? What

>>96738363

Said is more or less true. I happen to be a handmaiden for Lords and Ladies with the abilities to pull this off or at the very least source a solution. Their prices are reasonable if macabre, Let me know, kay.

>>96739507
>getting controlled
you know, a police check
"it's a bit late to be cosplaying a knight, eh"
lool

Greetings Chelys has anything new come about for you? -Kakophoni
also apologies for not being as talkative, Scholar got into the alcohol and dealing with a drunk Kiyasd in mourning is not the kind of activity that gives free time.
I'm going to continue using Scholar's account until he returns to sobriety

>>96740889
How is a broken butterfly drinking alcohol?

>>96740906
a while back one of his friend taught him to make alcohol that can affect vampires, I'd assume it's blood-magic of some kind. -Kakophoni

>>96736826
I've run from threats before, survived on the backroads most Cainites are too terrified to even look at. I was brought into unlife in a mass embrace, thrown at the Camarilla like canon fodder. I know the risks. I'm not going to spend eternity as a coward who let the murder of his packmate by some up-jumped lordling slide. Nossie located one of the ghouls and his house. No sign of the other or the master. We're going to torture the truth out of the bastard, then I'm going to drain the son of a bitch dry, and then I'll diablerize his shithead master.

>>96741377
If that is your way than so be it. Just one more thing then i will stop bothering you. Have you and your pack had a funeral for your lost Malk pack mate or any of your other lost family yet?

If not and you and yours still care about such things do so now. As you will likely never have another chance to do so after this night. And it may be for the best that you dig graves for your selves as well. The Camarilla can never let punk Sabat rebels like you win in the long run. Ever. The rest of the Camarilla will have to put you down or they will lose face. And they can not stand that at all.

>>96741553
I frenzied after she got dusted. Couldn't recover the body, what would've been left after the ashes anyway.

Her funeral will be the butchery of her murderers. We only need his head. We can run to hills where no member of the Camarilla can follow afterwards. That's contingent on getting him before his back-up arrives. We still have him four to one, not factoring in ghouls. I know there's a good chance his backup has already arrived.

But something deep within me tells me I can do this. I've felt different ever since we confronted those things in the abandoned mine. Tougher. Keener. Hungrier. Can't quite explain it. I've been eating more. I've been taking hits that should've hurt me. I'll kill him.

>>96737241
And good night to you too. It's wise to tie maintenance of your disbelief in Sabbat theology to something that unlikely, by the way; Kindred who don't run around screaming about Caine and the land of Nod tend to persist longer and live better.
>>96739507
Unfortunately, my clan does not hold a monopoly over stern appearances or good sense of dress. Though that still does mean that Vinnie may have some sort of backing, whether out of Sire-Childe ties or even debt; it doesn't matter which too much, because somebody who Vinnie owes to will still be liable to vouch for him, just for the return on their investment if nothing else. It could be good to try and goad him into revealing more through an egotist angle; discuss somebody's high-and-mighty Sire, see if that elicits him bragging about his.

>>96727447
>So quick asks if anyone knows this for sure. But say a vampire gets frozen solid during the depths of winter. To the point all of the blood in your body freezes and your flesh goes full on ice mummy. Will a vampire die if that happens to them? Or will will just go into torpor or be paralyzed and awake the whole time we are frozen?
Torpor.
>Also if we are frozen like that and we live what happens to us if we get touched by fire in that state or get exposed to the dim rays of the winters sun? Do we still burn to the finale death like normal? Or is our body so cold and solid at that point we can not burn anymore as long as we stay in our frozen environment and condition?
Sun hits you, you're donezo; especially if the Ice/water is clear enough to act as a sort of magnifying glass. Same principle as why the Livin' get sunburns after snorkling the day away. Now, Murky waters or the alluviel soil just in a lake. That will protect you from the sun. AND be a good huding spot from any air breathing pursuers if things get pear shaped. Most licks are wise to this trick though, so move fast. Especially if it's in the ocean.

>>96707453
I do so desire, but after reading a bunch about werewolves, I think I'll keep the werewolf question in the quiver just because it seems way too risky and important.
Given >>96712406 this I think I'll try and look the mirror over, as a start, plus maybe the sword. My Sire doesn't really seem to mind me or the others going into her study, I don't know if it's because she keeps all the really scary shit on lock, or because she's into letting us touch the stove to figure out why it's a bad idea. Either way, got a good opportunity tonight, so I guess I'll report back once I discover if the mirror, like, has wolf heads and claws and shit on it? Not sure what qualifies as a werewolf symbol, exactly. Besides a piece of conspicuously shaped silicon.
>>96712406
>Would you consider your vibes to be rancid and in need to cleansing from the world?
I mean, I guess I am not a very good person. Never really tried very hard to be good, didn't work in soup kitchens or volunteer to clean beaches or something. And my way of not flunking out of college was probably a bit amoral. Outright 'rancid' is a stretch, though, given what some people apparently do in their very long unlife-time.
>Kindred are not natural. We are walking corpses that burst into flames if exposed to direct sunlight, can defy the literal laws of physics with our disciplines, and remain completely unchanged by the ravages of time until our final death. We are a blockage in the cycle of life.
I mean, I guess I can see that, but only if I presume that nature by default doesn't have vampires in it. We're pretty unnatural from a standpoint of nature under which vampires don't exist, as a start, and are a not very scary fairy tale, secondly. But, like, if werewolves, who apparently are killing machines who can step through reflective surfaces and might consider a blown off limb a minor inconvenience, are entirely natural, it feels strange to single us out.

>>96740768
Listen we just need something to act as a magical firewall when some fucking wizard or something tries to throw something through the wifi signals or jump into, literally apparently, the servers.
Just teach us some technomancy or at the very least out some wards up and we'll like you.

>>96742541
Wait so is that how forest living vampires get away with living outside of city's all the time? A Gangrel will just swim out and down to the bottom of a vary deep lake or river, reach the bottom, then just dig down into the mud and muck or use protein to sink beneath the earth down there so nether the sun or other assholes will bother or find them.

And now that i think about it that must also be how the Nosferatu lived and survived until city's worth a damn were formed that had sewers worth hiding in. The Nosferatu must be the source of all the old legends of bloated corpses rising from the rivers, lakes, and seas to drag unsuspecting folks to there graves with them under the water.

Also now that i am thinking of it. Do you all think that the story of Beowulf was about Nosferatu or Gangrel? What with Grendel and his mother being swamp monsters that lived underwater and eat the flesh of men?

>>96744278
I think nature just picks favorites when it comes to supernatural beings like us and werewolves. It is why the wolves have all kinds of nature themed powers and we do not for the most part. Unless you are a Gangrel. But those guys keep saying that there clans founder was a wolf herself or was born from them at least. Before Cain or the second generation got to her that is.

Now that i think of it. You guys know about those strange humans that hang around the werewolves and do not freak out when they go full killing machine mode right? I think they are called familyfolk or kin by the werewolves. And messing with or trying to feed on them pisses the wolves off the most when we do that. sometimes even more than when we get lucky and kill one of the werewolves themselves does?

Do you all think that the Gangrels clan founder was one of these werewolves familyfolk and that is why she and her clan have so many nature an animal powers and abilities? She was literally supernaturally related and connected to nature like the werewolves are on a blood and spiritual level? At least until she was killed and turned into a vampire that is.

>>96745100
neeeerd

>>96744860
Do not your own elders not know blood sorcery themselves? Like i do not know if this is true or not but i heard that once a Nosferatu gets really old they stop finding snooping and spying on everybody to be rewarding or interesting anymore. And they just leave that work to the younger members of the clan.

These old Nosferatu are still obsessed with finding and hording secrets. They are just no longer interested in the nightly drama and petty politics of there youth. So now a nights they go after the real secrets of the world. Such as the secrets of clan disciplines or magic of all kinds.

So like should not a bunch of your clans elders not be masters of blood magics or other forms of magic themselves at this point? Maybe try asking around the elders of your clan to see if you can shake out some protections from them first. That must be a cheaper and safer way of doing things than asking the other clans to protect you from outsiders and cyber mages and werewolves that can shoot you with plasma guns thru your computer screens.

Ghoul 1 got his. Blood bond is a bitch to crack. He was missing an eye, broke every finger and toe he had, and we had started flaying his arm before he finally gave us his master's name. Henry Scott. First name as a last name WASP bastard. The ghoul took a while to crack so we didn't have time for an attack the same night.

Woke up to gunfire, 4/5 of the ghouls are dead. I put an unexpected hole in the wall, and we fought our way through the breach to get to the vehicles. Had to escape on flat tires, one of the puppets had the bright idea to pop them before the attack. We're really knife fighting on a tightrope right now.

I feel so alive.

>>96745817
Fuck unliving forever!!! Go for that good blue blood in that little princes veins. Race the sun my kindred and go out in a blaze of glory worthy to be put in the book of nod alongside all the other legends.

>>96745904
I wish, I fucking WISH he was a Prince. But no little lordling jumps Sabbat by themselves. They get their sheriff to do it. He's probably one of those marquesses, the mini-princes the cam likes to use to extend their influence out of the city and into suburbs and satelite towns.

Some dipshit probably ghoul hoping for the embrace like the sniveling wrech they are tried to blow the Priest's head off with a sniper while we were changing the tires. I sped up on the little bastard and ripped him in half. Not hyperbole. Now everyone's looking at me weird like I didn't just save them. I don't know what's happening to me. But I like it. Maybe the Book of Nod thumpers are right. I certainly feel like Caine's sword right now.

AHAHAHAHA GOT A FIX ON HIS HAVEN THANK YOU NOSFERATU ANTITRIBU!

>>96746113
Would you say that the first time you got one of these random power up was when one of your pack mates died? And every power up since has been after another one of your pack has died as well?

Is the blood bond you have with your entire pack somehow letting you drain them of there power after they die without you having to drink them?

What generation were you before you started getting there boosts in power? And do you think you have lowered in generation after your pack mates started being killed?

Hey Sabbat guys, what are the orgies like? Maybe I could be convinced...

>>96747541
I think it is just them drinking each others blood all the time that they like the most about those orgies they have.

>>96747541
Epstein could only dream of orgies with a Tzimisce or a pack of Cathari. They're so primal, that they make mages blush with envy from the level of gnosis achieved.

The calm before the storm. I can feel it in my blood.
>>96746903
No. It first happened when we were dealing with those weird paramilitary guys back in the Tzimisce's territory. I developed low end fortitude automatically, at least I think that's what I think happened. This was after we cleared the abandoned mine of those weird troglodyte things.

Ever since, I've felt stronger. Hungrier. Sharper. I can drink more without being slated and when I feel my hunger rise up it is overwhelming.

>>96747541
Not every pack does weird orgies.

>>96747541
>Sabbat
>Orgies
Not worth it. I've had to astrally project into too many of those in my years as an inquisitor. It's all boring attempts at being transgressive that just result in going further down the path of degeneration that the heretics in our midst try to put us down in order to distract us from our true purpose as Cainites.

>>96747707
That's just the vaulderie, but idiotic neonates will make it into a sex thing, especially those that still think being a sex pest is a compensation for the lack of a personality.

>>96747780
Sex pest? I thought the whole point of the Sabot was to have mutual consent about everything? What with you all fighting and killing the elders all the time for the horrors and evils they put all of you thru what with the blood bonding's and domination of your minds?

>>96747541
>Sabbat guys, what are the orgies like?
Rape,diablerie,snuff,animals,90% men, honestly easier to tell you what Sodom and Gomorrah level shit they don't do

One of the many reasons as a Tzimisce I stick to the cammies
Sire was going to snich me to the local leaders but it seemed a few dogs found him first
Lucky me

>>96747732
>Epstein could only dream of orgies with a Tzimisce
DON'T BELIEVE THIS
Take it from a 15 year member never EVER let a Tzimisce touch you especially with the offer of sex
That's how you lose your sex organs or become part of "Sex room"
It sounds benign but under flesh chair context? Noooooo way pal
Becoming a glory hole isn't a good fate

>>96747732
>Dracula tentacles typed this post

>>96747742
Oh, now that is fun. So you went up against somebody while operating in Tzimisce territory? And the Tzimisce, from what I back read, was quite the powerful type? Did you happen to get any injuries while out there, or drink any blood? Frankly, even breathing to be able to talk might've been a contagion vector, if what I think happened, happened, but a bit more details can't hurt.

>>96744860
Here's a basic ritual I've seen be posted and then scrubbed like twelve times by now. It works perfectly well, and I give it as a freebie out of mild antritribal spite, and also because I hate wizards. A strong will can still break through this sort of defense with ease, but you don't want a perfect defense, you want something functional, so here you go.
>ingredients required for optimal and easiest results, as optimal as a minor ritual can get, really: dried blood turned to powder, any seems to work, but human is best, vitae probably works even better but I don't feel like risking mine for this, small paint brush, scotch tape, water, lots of paper, somebody who can draw the same set of symbols and not bitch about menial work. SOME vitae is required as a minimum, to give power to the rite, but you can get away with very little, but in the mass of it it'll add up. This isn't a one-and-done ritual. Stronger vitae seems to boost the effect.
>make a thick blood-paste of sorts, basically blood paint.
>take a piece of paper.
>draw a circle using the paste. You can replace the paste with regular paint or, really, any material that'd jut out from its surroundings, but blood seems to work okay as conduit of vampiric power.
>line the outside of the circle with 'T's, having them jut out of the circle while not crossing it. Actively think of them as of breaching a connection between something, as to grant them meaning.
>Draw two interlocking diamonds in the center of the circle. Cut your finger (the damage is necessary for the ritual). Droplet of vitae (from anywhere, really) goes in the interlocking point.
>Line the inside of the circle with words describing what you need protected from interference. More words can bring specifics. More on that later, if you want me to go into the details.
>Attach the paper to, for instance, a server you wish to protect.
>If it works as it should, the server is now somewhat disconnected from the outside world; Obfuscated, in a way.

>>96749567
Aren't you a wizard?

>>96749559
Here is a short synopsis, I don't have much time. I've simmered down somewhat from my previous posts. My pack encountered some weird cannibal troglodyte things in deep coal country. We ended up killing them all, but it was difficult, there were like 50 of them. I'm a Brujah Antitribu. We frenzy easily, and during our little operation I was burning through blood quick and frenzied due to the heat of battle and hunger. Apparently, I ripped through quite a few of them in that state. The pack's other dedicated warrior, our Gangrel. Country, not city, got put into torpor during the fight, and the rest of us weren't looking so good. Thus, we withdrew to friendly territory. Our Priest knew vaguely of a Tzimisce in the area, friend of her sire or something like that. I'm not sure if he was "quite powerful", people tend to give Tzis more credit than they're due a lot of time due to wearing their abilities on their sleeve, but he was an older ancilla with a pretty good sized, albeit quite backwater, domain.

He told us we could stay for a couple of nights, but any longer than that and we would need to do something for him. Hunters, he guessed, were scoping his territory out. So we dealt with them. Though if they were hunters, they weren't very good ones. Despite having some military grade gear, there was nothing anti-vampire in their arsenal. During the brief fight, I took a shotgun flush on the chest but half of the pellets didn't even pierce the skin. That's when I first noticed any changes. My late packmate, rest her, got colicky about wolves and we left. Right after we did, a raging fire overtook our former host's domain entirely. 99% sure he's gone.

I'm interested in hearing your "contagion" theory, but it's go time. I probably won't be around until I've drunk the hearts blood of the man who killed my packmate.

>>96744278
>Not sure what qualifies as a werewolf symbol, exactly.
Look for crude hieroglyphs, the kinda that could have been made by claws. I've included a picture of the symbol I'm most familiar with, due to my time visiting The Court of Steel and Sky. It identifies one of the Lupine "clans."

>>96730805
Chelys, mon cher, I recall you are of Amerindian descent, n'est-ce pas? How familiar are you with your ancestral beliefs. There appears to have been a mix-up and several artifacts were delivered to Marcus's museum.Ordinarily I would pay it no mind, but they seem to be having an unusual effect on some of the conservators working there.

>>96739907
Interesting to know. Merci. Bonne chance dans vos efforts.

>>96749726
I am. That grants me authority and experience from the height of which to hate wizards.

>>96749876

Very well. I'd like to first acknowledge that this is going to be a fairly raw theory, built off of guesswork. For instance, I don't know what those creatures you probably ate are, and while I doubt they're some sort of walking power-boosters on their own, and were utterly unrelated to the oh-so-conveniently-nearby Tzimisce, both are not improbable. I'll still discard that for now and build on the contagion theory.

I will start with a historical excurse written with presumption that you return from your vengeance mission, best of luck on it.

Tzimisce are not quite my usual field of interest, and this is more an interesting incident I've caught references to in several places, enough so that I started gathering details and building up a narrartive of sorts out of disparate pieces. Some hunter documentation hamming it up as a near-apocalyptic event they barely stopped, God be praised and so on, notes of another Tremere I worked with, who was kind enough to share that one time a Prince was actually helpful and stepped in timely, that sort of opaque stuff. I am not exactly on the top of the Pyramid, so while I have access to some fun things, I still am reasonably limited. So, keep in mind that fine details are liable to be wrong.

Sometime around Christmas of 1888, in Buenos Aires, some cops raided the wrong cargo boat, and found very strange vials aboard. It was a shipment belonging to Tzimisce cultists - specifically a group of the 'try and bring the Antedeluvian back in some way' sort. They caught it by pure chance, seeking to catch regular drug trafficking, and since the initial discoverers were just corrupt, not ghouled, they didn't know what this strange, bloodlike, thick substance was, but figured it was freaky and worth confiscating.

It proved to be mass-vialed vitae claimed to be sourced from a Tzimisce Elder. Methuselah, possibly, if not higher.

>>96752998
Every local group had some cops on their payroll or under thrall, so everybody very quickly heard about the vials, and a huge amount were stolen from police custody basically overnight. The total count of the vials was under a hundred, most likely, and above a few dozen easily, because there's been several dozen vampires recorded as having taken one, but in the chaos and confusion some may have been missed, not every vial was consumed, and many, many KIndred took more than one vial.

But, yes, somebody very quickly had the bright idea to force-feed a vial to a fledgling to see what happens.

The results were fairly intriguing. Drink a vial, you get stronger; a notable edge over Kindred of your own level, albeit not a huge one, but still, it's a great boon. To be even a tenth more than you already are - that's the sort of thing a lot of people are willing to sell their souls for, much less drink Methuselah juice.

Drink several, your own blood fairly quickly grows more potent. What's more, with time, even people who drank just one vial would find themselves changing, bit by bit, with power building up in them. Accelerated regeneration, fleshcraft of an instinctive, basic level, other disciplines they had no right of manifesting. Naturally, things very quickly devolved into a mostly-off-the-record war for the vials; everybody was interested in getting more of them than the competition, either to themselves take them, or to torch them out of fear of what they could do. Most people drank them, naturally. Then, when the vials themselves started to run short, somebody had the bright idea of diablerizing those who consumed a vial, to take it in along with the vampire's own blood.

>>96753026
The diablerie craze very quickly turned into a period of panic, as side effects of the vials started to show, especially among the highest in generation and those who took the vials long ago. Some would remember things they really had no reason to, their personality drifted towards the usual dark triad lineup, they grew more violent, at first under good pretexes, but with no reason at times. In some more advanced cases there was even physical warping of features into something monstrous; horns, scales, sinews, the works. The hunter notes features guesswork that a more subtle psychological effect must've been some sort of draw to the holders of the vials, not even users; forcing them together and into the open. That'd explain why very, very few Kindred during the incident just hid from discovery and laid low.

The strangest part was, Kindred sufficiently along the progression of this disease-in-a-vial, either due to time or due to overconsumption, seemingly lost their ties to their clan. A few records outline that a Sabbat-aligned Brujah, down on his luck and on the run from his clique, tried to start a new one, and every vampire he sired and hit over the head with a shovel, as is the custom, came out as a Tzimisce one. Not an ounce of Brujahness to them.

The outrbreak's peak, not in numbers but in notoriety, was when there were only three vial-drinkers left, all turned to vial-Tzimisce things, and all three basically spent every night beating the shit out of each other and locals in an attempt to diablerize people. It got so bad, there were confirmed sightings of several packs of were-crocodiles, who were ignoring local Kindred in favor of trying to take out the vial-Tzimisce, Hunters both local and from North America were heading to Argentina, local Camarilla was trying exceedingly hard to keep this all hidden, and really didn't quite manage.

>>96753070
The outbreak ended when the Prince, first, supposedly put on the persona of a catholic huntress-nun, or a nuntress, and led the hunters into being a pronounced, loud distraction. Then she collaborated with the were-crocodiles, managing to take out two vial-Tzimisce locked in yet another fight, and locate the third who was hiding under the city, working on some sort of fleshcrafting project of absurd scale. There was a smaller outrbreak a while later, where a Tremere antitribu used a preserved vial as an air-distributed weapon of sorts. Even a few droplets of the stuff, if ingested, seemed to be enough for the disease to take hold of a vampire in a very slight stage, so he used it to wipe out the Chantry in Córdoba, in a convoluted way.

This leaves us with options for what the contagion truly was, if it happened as outlined.

Option one. Tzimisce Antedeluvian blood, behaving as it did due to its nature.

Not improbable, but somewhat concerning. That'd imply that the vitae is alive and evil, and can take over Kindred to basically maneuver itself back together, perhaps in an effort to become one again.

Option two. Regular-ish vitae of some strength, heavily ritualized upon by the Tzimisce themselves, to make ersatz-Tzimisce as troops, or perhaps a faulty shipment acquired by them under belief that it was option one.

More probable, and less concerning, though the lineup of effects and strength the blood bestowed is intriguing. It's certainly not quite a regular rituals from any of my tomes, at least.

Not a conclusive list, we omit the chance this was an intentful piece of bait to have the local Kindred kill each other off over basically poison, among others.

Your case may well be something like this - maybe consuming altered Tzimisce vitae, possibly airborne, leading to a sudden rise in strength, in new disciplines, in slight mental changes. And the Tzimisce oh-so-tragically dies immediately, and thus is missing.

Any symptoms in your friends?

>>96749726
It's important to keep a pet wizard for throwing a sun at hooligans and Jesuits

My sire is 305 and still laughs about the time he wrote "This is where I fucked your sire" and drew dicks on some big Tremeres important wall

Scholar has managed to calm down for the time being.
Miss Bleus I must ask if you sent a curse upon him as it targeted me and I wish to know if I was the intended target or not. -Kakophoni
I got really damn sick

>>96753161
This account from Argentina sounds strangely familiar like an old rumor I heard. Can you tell me more about what these vial-tzimisce were like?

>>96752998
>>96753026
>>96753070
>>96753161
I know all kindred think their clan is the best/most dangerous, but of all the clans and bloodlines to WILLINGLY drink the vitae of, mine own is at the lowest on the list. I have known elders and other low gen tzimisce to be able to pull off some “regenerate from a single cell” type shit. All other clans, you can at least logic it with cool disciplines, or you get prettier, with the Roses. Us fiends though, man that’s a failed wisdom check if I’ve seen one. Serves them right though for playing with powers FAR beyond their control. Also, kek at the destroyed chantry. Love to see it.
>>96751841
Sí, cara mia. My ancestry is uniquely texan in that it’s of the natives here, the German immigrants, and the Spanish conquistadors. My knowledge of the native cultures extends to the plains natives and aztec. The coasts are foreign to me. What kind of effects. The natives had some powerful enough magics that even the kine respect their curses. Weird that.
>>96740889
Good to see you Kakaphoni! Been doing some traveling. Currently working my way back home from Macedonia. Some “true black hand” fuckers caught me unawares during an ammo run and next thing I know I’m in
>THE VOID
and get staked for my troubles. Think my grand sire is up and about trying to recruit me again. I’ll handle it somehow. Thankfully I had my Texas sesquicentennial silver belt buckle with a piece of the Alamo’s wall imbued in it to keep the ol clan curse at bay. Grandpa smiling down at me for wearing it today, I’m sure of it.

>>96755695
>cara mia
Have I missed the wedding between you and Miss Bleu? (sarcasm is the tone if not obvious)
Also I'm curious as to what more your clan can do with it's fleshcraft, it's always been a fascination of mine ever since I got to meet one of the Volgirre and listened to her talk of the art she makes. -Kakophoni

>>96755497
I know several curses, Kakophoni, but rest assured I've not set any upon your or your "father." As I've said, I'm not one to hold a grudge. Even of the memory is especially bitter.

Get well soon.

>>96755695
Well the most notable is what appears to be an obsessive-compulsive need to reorganize or rearrange everything - and I do mean everything - in the museum. Poor Marcus is at his wits' end trying to keep everything in its proper place; they made an absolute mockery of the Egyptian wing that I helped put together!

I'd fight Cain just to enjoy one more soda and hamburger again

>>96755829
do people who unironically say this shit only drink rat blood or something?

>>96755818
>"father."
I've still never learned why he calls us his children, childer I get but children is something else. I normally chalk it up to age screwing with his mind but maybe there is something more to it. Also what's this I hear about the museum being damaged? Was that from Scholar or a different source? -Kakophoni

I will now review every clan's women.

>Brujah
Loud, angry, horrible to be around, but active participants. Depends on how well you can tune their bullshit out and pretend to listen.

>Gangrel
The animal features are a big turn off for me. Some have hygiene problems, which is impressive since we don't sweat.

>Malkavian
Basically the same rules as living crazy chicks. Fun for a while, but don't get stuck in.

>Nosferatu
No. Just, no.

>Toreador
Gotta be honest about my own kind. Really pretty, experienced, can push people's buttons very well, and even does the lovey dovey stuff pretty good. However, every Toreador is a ticking time bomb that will cheat on you the minute they get bored.

>Tremere
Freaky and repressed. Most like getting mistreated in the bedroom. Avoid pillow talk, they will report it to their boss.

>Ventrue
If you like being dommed, unironic 10/10. If you don't like being dommed, 0/10.

>Lasombra
I don't know why but Lasombra women are almost always stupid hot. However, they are awful lovers. No joke, unless they want to get something from you, they'll just beat the shit out of you. Not even in a hot way.

>Tzimisce
Not even with a rented dick.

>Giovanni
Sorry, you aren't related, so her uncle (sire) will have you killed for eve trying.

>Ravnos
Pretty good time, but you will have your wallet stolen at the very least.

haven't banged an assamite or follower of set.

>>96755892
>Lasombra
I refute the Lasombra one, not all are awful lovers but most, read any in the sabbat, are horrible in bed. If you bang an older lasombra, be prepared as she might use some of her shadow tentacles.
>Assamite
most assamite women are already taken and the ones that aren't are usually to be left alone
>Setite
I wouldn't recommend setite women, most will simply due it to convert you or diablerize you, maybe Blue might be different but still, don't risk it.
>Tremere
Tremere are into some weird shit.
>Brujah
depends, most are insufferable but some can be nice to be with
>Gangrel
Is akin to beastiality typically, also a Gangrel will probably bite your cock off for trying
>Malkavian
Don't relax, you could wake up with your limbs gone
>Nosferatu
If you find one that is attractive to you, treat them alright and they will reciprocate. ex was a nossie and she was amazing in bed.
>Toreador
The kinkiest mother fuckers I've met, will 100% do things to you that are well outside the norm.
>Tzimisce
Unless you are on good terms, and I mean really damn good terms, don't even try as it's not worth it
>Ventrue
honestly depends, I'd say 75% is domme and 25% is switch
>Ravnos
pretty good overall, you will get stuff stolen
>Giovanni
Depending on the family it will go a different way, expect incest roleplay as a possibility
>Bloodlines:
>Gargoyle
I've heard of a guy bedding one but was never able to confirm

>>96755964
forgot to add:
"my view"

>>96755964
>be prepared as she might use some of her shadow tentacles.
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>>96755744
>what my clan can do with fleshcrafting
The majority of my clan see it as a genuinely sacred act of changing one’s form to change the FORM of one’s soul. By adding and taking away senses or appendages one can rise above base creation. Your imagination is the only limit. You want a coat of foreskins, that can be done. A chair of just tongues, sure. A tree that hosts prey and generates blood wine as fruit, also been done. A giant worm from fingers, sure. Just whatever way you wish to learn about anatomy and physiology.
>>96755818
Pity about your Egyptian wing my dear. Hope they at least kept the dynasties seperated. As far as that particular thing, it may have something to do with grandmother spider. The more settled tribes of the west were prolific weavers of tapestries. This is a particularly OCD-inclined hobbie, so maybe that? My tribes, the comanche, would raid from them, as they were purely nomadic. Any of y’all’s native artifacts showing spider or web-like designs?

>>96745409
>Elders
>Technomancy
The obvious is right there man, I don't know how else to break it to you.

>>96749567
Cool thanks, we'll try it.
Also would you be mind if we kidnapped you for a bit so that you can teach one of our guys the full technomantic book, we'll need alot of different things and it would honestly be faster if we can just get one of our guys to do it.

>>96756138
>Your imagination is the only limit
that sounds both intriguing and terrifying,
as for the spider designs, not that I can recall however I do enjoy such designs. I always had an affinity for spiders, such sweet things. -Kakophoni

>>96727447
Summer of 1984, My pack and I froze a Cammie in a block of Ice and slid out into
parking of a Fimbulvetr Ice Factory in the midday sun. The body burnt up, leaving a Cammy shaped recess on the inside. Though we couldn't actually get close enough to examine it, because midday sun. I will note, the ice was clear enough I remember seeing him glare at me as we pushed him towards the door, so it's possible that at least opaque ice could protect a lick from the sun, however long it takes to melt.

>>96727447
Summer of 1984, My pack and I froze a Cammie in a block of Ice and slid it out into
parking lot of a Fimbulvetr Ice Factory in the midday sun. The body burnt up, leaving a Cammy shaped recess on the inside. Though we couldn't actually get close enough to examine it, because midday sun. I will note, the ice was clear enough I remember seeing him glare at me as we pushed him towards the door, so it's possible that at least opaque ice could protect a lick from the sun, however long it takes to melt.

Bleu you mentioned an egyptian exhibit got trashed at your museum, is there anything broken? I know a guy who does restoration who might be able to assist, does great bronze work too

>>96756481
Remind me to never go to the poles. I’m certain there are kindred beneath the ice caps now. Living off penguin blood. How horrific.

>>96756520
there are, though with the caps melting they might be forced to move.
They are a bunch that you want to avoid.

>>96756520
Counterpoint: Three Months of Nighttime during Winter in the North and Summer in the South. Six months of never having to DEAL with anything as long as you don't miss your flight, once those Ice Caps melt enough, it's going to be the new flashpoint in the jyhad just you wait.

>>96755839
Guess vampirism removes all sense of your past life and nostalgia
>BUT Blood is this super ultra tasty, better than sex and makes your dick bigger

Food isn't just taste, its texture, smell, sight, mouth feel, the act of enjoying it with family friends loved ones
Walking into a chinese buffet after a long day of work with coworkers
Grilling on the 4th of july
Bread fresh from the oven covered in butter

Its an experience that Vampires will never have again same as sun light
You think more like a human than someone under Cain's gift or a Tzimisce slave that spent life fed on masters blood mixed nutrient paste

>>96755892
>However, every Toreador is a ticking time bomb
As someone who dated one, youre better off being alone than to have her almost get blood bonded to you, become her obsession and nearly breach once her possessive self thinks youre cheating on her by having a penpal.
>>96755964
For anyine else who is crazy enough to try a tzimisce
>TEETH
Granted i didnt know she was one at the time, and i ran like practiced celerity. And no this wasnt calliente, this was my first time finding out about them.
I still have nightmares

Also go hookup with your local woundup brujah woman. Its less nightmare inducing.

>>96755862
This is separate from Monsieur Scholar's last visit. Several members of the staff have been displaying odd behavior after some Native American artifacts were mistakingly delivered.

>>96755964
Well, at least you were kind enough to suggest that I might be "one of the good ones." I'll take what I can get. Merci, monsieur. (I think I'm a rather skilled lover, personally.)

>>96756138
At a glance, I did not notice any spider or web motifs on any of the artifacts received but I will take a closer look tonight. Merci beaucoup!

>>96756512
That would be appreciated! One of the ceramics was broken and there was some minor damage to a bronze shield. For the most part the worst was that the exhibits were rearranged - now the relics that depict and venerate Osiris are more prominent than those of Set! After all the painstaking effort I went to arrange things just right!

Neonate question incoming. Are witches real? I nearly shit myself the other night when a mortal recognized me as a vampire. She said she knew because she was a witch. Gave her my number because she was hot in a dark and moody kind of way, but I'm afraid of being catfished by hunters. I thought only vampires did magic stuff.

>>96757700
>I think I'm a rather skilled lover, personally
That just come with being French.

>>96757762
Oh no the mages are quite real. They are realer tham reality.
>>96757700
Be mindful that it may not be the designs we’re used to in a european descended culture. Attached is a navajo/diné pattern for a web.
>>96757673
Ah good ol dentata. Gets them everytime. >>96756561
>>96756546
Like I said, subaquatic polar kindred are guaranteed to be some weird fuckers. Never want to go there.

>>96757905
>They are realer tham reality.
Come on. This is very serious, I don't want to be the guy who gets staked 2 months into his undead career because people can't stop shitposting.

>>96757762
>>96758405
If I may offer some advice, my boy? It is better to hone your own mind, rather than rely on being spoonfed by unknown vampires you will never meet face to face. They could lie, or worse, exaggerate their own knowledge to come off as more intelligent.

Actually think about your position. You are a vampire, a creature who is no longer truly living but also not quite dead. You must drink the lifeforce of others, that being blood, to sustain yourself. Why on earth would witches not be real? Presume that unnatural beings do exist until given evidence to the contrary.

Now, before you start mindlessly accepting whatever tripe you hear, ask yourself practical questions. "How could this person identify me as a vampire?" "Why would they tell me this point-blank to my face?" "Do they not know how seriously vampires take such things?"

Though a mortal with supernatural abilities of their own is entirely possible, consider alternatives. Perhaps they're a ghoul of another vampire trying to get a rise out of you, or bait you into doing something. Perhaps they seek to get to your sire through you.

Critical thinking is far more valuable than any conjecture delivered to you by the armchair occultists that infest our world.

>>96749876
Anyone wanna bet on if this dude got dusted or not?

>>96759542
My money's on him getting that Ventrue. Don't think he's gonna make out of town though. He's been clocked and I don't see the powers that be letting him escape.

I'm curious if the Ventrue and his pals knew they were Sabbat before they attacked, or if they just don't like out of town Licks prowling their turf. Cuz if it's the latter, I'd like to know where it is so I can stay away.

>>96759483
No need to be so stiff, the stick in your ass is just a stick, not a stake.
>>96757762
>>96758405
Witches, mages and wizards in the 'Kine who can do some sort of magic with no connection to vampires, werewolves, fairies or other such things' do exist. For starters, most Kine theoretically can mess with charms, little rituals, circles and so on, if they're trained. Not impossible that your girl is somebody who went on the wrong website and found an actually real and functional ritual to try out. Then there's a more worrisome category, who do have power beyond petty tricks and rituals.

They're extremely rare, even moreso than us, and they're almost always trouble of some sort; either because they don't know what they're doing, or because they know exactly what they're doing.

I would say that you run a moderate risk of being catfished by the world's most mentally challenged hunters, who'd do that sort of stunt instead of literally anything including just shooting you in the face with a shotgun, and a slight yet real risk of her being an actual witch who is either naive and unaware of what sort of risk it is to expose herself so, or her being an actual witch interested in using you as a source of virtually endless ritual parts. Your blood is power, and you can make more of it if given human blood.

Though I think the most likely option is that she's just some goth, or maybe a runaway ghoul, perhaps one tricked into thinking the barest amount of power ghouls get is actual magic, on top of having been taught some basic rituals, or, indeed, a literal nobody who found some sort of ritualistic equivalent of the Auspex discipline, maybe because she found an uncensored text on rituals. It's not impossible. I'd suggest not sticking your dick in that, but it's your unlife, and I've my own weaknesses towards goth women, so I can't blame you, really.

>>96756196
I would prefer if you kidnapped me for a relative while, as if I keep posting here, I am sure I will upset some asshole in a hat more pointy than mine and will need the seclusion. And I certainly do intend to keep posting, so, that's an inevitability.
Plus I'll want money and info for my services. But given that, feel free to pick me up. Knock when you visit.

>>96759483
I get where you're coming from, but until now I was assuming that the vampires that do wizardry can do that because they're vampires, you know. Vampires are real, so I can believe witches are too. But I'm not gonna start believing in fairies or Santa Claus.

I've already thought the whole thing over to the best of my abilities. I just couldn't decide the wisest course of action. I thought, maybe she's lying and up to something nefarious, that's bad. But maybe she's just a hot chick who hexes people with non-vampire magic, that's new and exciting. I can't ask anyone I know without them blabbing to my sire, so here I am.
>>96760096
Thanks, but I'm gonna have to spend the next hour processing that first sentence in case you're not bullshitting. I'm guessing fairies aren't a metaphor. How the fuck does that fit in? And I thought "werewolf" was just another word for Gangrel, so I'm glad I'm learning this now. Unless you're bullshitting, of course, but those odds sound pretty good, so I choose to believe you.

>>96760096
If you took offense at anything I said there, young man, odds are you're the armchair occultist who likes to spout off nonsense in an attempt to seem smart.

>>96761118
In many ways your view on things is a tragic consequence of the recent attempt to "white wash" many subjects folkloric and paranormal. Most cultures believe in some sort of fae-like creature or creatures, yet unfortunately they are generally understood as little saccharine pixies. As a result, they seem ludicrous, even if vampires are real.

If you cannot trust your own sire when you are but two months dead, then you have a tragic unlife ahead of you, my boy. I know not where this apparent epidemic of godawful siring habits has sprung from, but it will only end when every single irresponsible or glib sire is beheaded as an example. The reason I advise caution is that, especially among the ancillae (the most odious of all stages of unlife, in my humble opinion), there is a horrid tendency towards exaggeration of things largely unknown to Kindred. Highly dangerous lupines become unstoppable gods of war who could slay the very Antediluvians if given the chance. Mortal mystics become inscrutable beings capable of making the very earth itself stop spinning upon its axis. I speak with the weight of 400 years of curious unlife behind me, these claims are quite different from reality.

I believe we exaggerate and distort the truth of the other denizens of the night because we are so used to being the ones with the information advantage over mortals that the inverse terrifies us to our very cure. We become fixated on these distortions while missing very real, far more insidious secrets hidden directly under our influence.

>>96761224
>odds are you're the armchair occultist who likes to spout off nonsense in an attempt to seem smart.
Yo get his ass grandpa

>>96761224
That's fair. I guess that's part of why I haven't been told this stuff. It's not like I distrust him, but I feel like an intern who's already had his stupid questions round and I can't afford to screw up now.

I would like to apologize for the poor diction in the previous statement made. English is not my first language, and I am unused to the typesets on recent computers. When you build up your initial muscle memory on typewriters as I have, you sometimes make mistakes.

>>96761569
I sympathize with your position, my boy. This unlife of ours is quite intimidating. While my own sire was rather cold, he was an intellectually curious and rigorous man, and I was Socraticly educated nightly. Minus the molestation, that is. I hope that joke still lands.

Why did your sire state that they embraced you? That may help you understand your relation to them and how well you can trust them, both in general questioning as well as your recent dilemma.

>>96761666
I laughed, but maybe that's because I was concerned that I was going to get molested myself. To be honest, I thought he was hitting on me at first which I didn't really like. But when I specifically asked him why, he said I was a kindred spirit and that we shared a passionate soul, or something. I can't really tell you what he meant by that. I don't think he's gay though.

WHO THE FUCK CLOGGED SEWERS WITH HIS CREATIONS AGAIN?!

>>96761923
Uh oh, here comes a chaser! You better get out of there

Lonely Tzimisce looking for a cute and kind-hearted Christian Salubri to marry and spend eternity with, maybe occasionally taking out tr*mere kikes that cause nuisance.
Anyone interested mail at lonelitzim@vtm.com

>>96757781
And being a trained courtesan.

>>96757905
Upon a closer inspection, I believe your suspicion is correct. There were indeed patterns matching the web design you showed in your last reply. Do you have any suggestion on how to end the effect these artifacts are having on the museum staff? Will simply removing them from the premises work? I appreciate any information you can share!

>>96757700
You are far more tolerable compared to other setite women I've met, therefore you are ranked higher.

>>96757700
Relics depicting Set...
I think I can acquire some for you if you want. The eldest child I mentioned was a collector and gifted me a few egyptian items among other cultures; one's a small statuette of Set[I think as the inscription is worn], a knife and a scroll that I've not translated. Also I know the repairman the other kindred is talking about, he does amazing work and I'll see if he's free to go to you -Kakophoni.

>>96758405
>FIRST RULE ABOUT MAGIC
REALITY IS FAKE AND GAY
>SECOND RULE ABOUT MAGIC
REALITY IS GAY AND FAKE
seriously some of these mortals are able to rewrite the fundamental laws and IDEAS of reality. Mind you, most explode after due to “reality police” or something. But there are a few who can decide IT’S DAY TIME JUST FOR YOU, YOU LUCKY KINDRED.
>>96759483
As an upstart youth myself, I do love it when the elders show us our place. A great learning opportunity it usually is.
>>96762263
Look, they are actively hiding from everyone now. I’ve met ONE, and she only revealed who she was after MANY drinks at my bar in my private quarters. They want to stay hidden cousin. But, there’s always room here for the lonely to watch their broken dreams dance in and out of the beams of a neon moon at my bar. First drink is on me, friends and family discount.
>>96762406
To end them, you could do a few things. If you want to keep the artifacts, try a cleansing ritual. The seminoles nearby you might be able to help. If you want to send the artifacts back just contact the sender, I guess. The RIGHT thing to do though would be return them to the navajo nation out west. That’s what most kine would do I imagine. Plus, good publicity for the museum I imagine.
>>96762515
Yes she certainly has some assets that make her FAR more tolerable than other settites I’ve met as well. HUGE tolerable assets.

I tell you folks being dominated sucks. I shouldn’t have to deal with it being who I am, but no. I’ve gotta be the one who catches the interest of the 1500 year old late teen looking mother fucker and dragged off to acre. This place is a literal shithole. I’m heading to Damascus. Murdered enough talmahera to get a local assamite to tell me to chill, I’m taking out all his clientele. Might hang with them for a bit.

>>96763058
While she does have some fine assets, that's not why I hold her in higher regard compared to others of her clan. She's not nearly as much of a cultist as her kin and she hasn't threatened to "bestow the curse of Ra" upon anyone so far.

>>96763058
>Damascus
Need help getting back? I'm fairly certain an old friend of Scholar still lives there, I can ask if you'd like.
also Chelys I'm going to ask you to be 100% serious when you answer my question:
Was my comment about you and bleu getting together accurate? If so then congratulations and may it last longer than most.

>>96763521
Ah well in that case, let me fix that.

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Tonight, we've got ourselves a special deal just for you:

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Well, today we have a very special indentured servant for sale: Shruti the Nagaraja™! Collected through 100% eco-friendly means and bound for your pleasure, this living dead corpse eater is perfect for the efficient corpse disposal you've always dreamed of! She has previous experience as a house maid, house wife and house widow, perfect for any household~! With her blood bonded*, you'll have the cute and loyal shark-toothed maid of your dreams!
Moreover, Shruti the Nagaraja™ comes with speech capabilities! I can personally confirm that when struck overhead with a shovel, she makes sounds along the lines of 'Ow'** 'Stop that'** 'It hurts'** 'You'll pay for this'**, just like the action figures of yore!
Normally, her price would be one and a half kine, but just for you, as a limited time offer, we'll hand her over for just half a kine! You read that right, only half a kine!
So don't wait up and get Shruti the Nagaraja into your household before she slips back into the shadowlands!

*Shruti the Nagaraja™ does not come pre-blood bound.
**Translated from Hindi.

>>96763757
I’ll take her off your hands. Send a ghoul to pick up the hobo I found in my woods. Fed half to my ghoulodiles already.
>>96763527
No just playful flattery/flirting on my part. And sure I’d appreciate the favor. Got wifi but no cell service BECAUSE FUCKING CORPOS SAY NO.

>>96761224
I find it comical to look at somebody who needs basic information about the world we are in, lest they get turned into a vitae tap by an occultist who managed to manipulate him by his dick, and proceed to drown him in paragraphs of 'my boy' and 'oh be careful, stoves are hot, don't put your hand on them' instead of practical, usable answers. If you want to help somebody who doesn't know things, tell them things. It's that simple. But I suppose one does not get to a few hundred years of age without convoluting things as a hobby.
>>96761118
A major aspect of your new life is that you, to a degree, get to coast on a reputation built up by vicious and cutthroat vampires over many centuries.
Overall, most things in the world that know about vampires would know we're dangerous and predatory and are best avoided, equally as we are best off avoiding them. Keep that in mind - if something strange is seeking you out, something's wrong - either with them, or the world around you.
But no, werewolves are not Gangrel. You can backread a little to get more details. In short, they're nature-obsessed killing machines that are usually worried about things of a higher scale than a fledgling vampire. To werewolves we usually are a blight, but one to purge from the world at a later point, far as urgency is concerned, because there's far biggers problems than a fledgling vampire. Very much avoid them. While mages, witches and whatever else in that category are a constant source of danger, but sometimes can be lucrative to work with, in the absurdly rare circumstance you establish a balanced deal with a competent mage, a werewolf who doesn't want to rip your head off is a strange werewolf. Ones I know of, who outright work with Kindred, are very disturbed.
Fairies are also not a metaphor, but they're extremely weird. We and them mix poorly, from all I know, so they avoid us, and we usually return the favor. But they are out there.

>>96763889
Sold! To the weirdo who ghouls crocodiles!

>>96763889
Just checked in, he's there, head to the market looking area and be on the look out for a guy with a face tattoo like the one Ardeth Bay from 1999 the Mummy has. He'll help you. Bring something to pay him with, if you don't got money then I'm sure you can figure something out. -Kakophoni

>>96757762
a lot of creatures do magical things, vampires do sorcery, humans can do a lot more. be on guard and don't think with your dick. you barely know her and such must be suspicious. Never offer her your blood as that will backfire instantly.

>>96761118
QRD: vampires can't do true magic, we can do sorcery which anybody can do that being rituals and stuff. vampire blood grants access to a certain set of rituals and spells but they are not that powerful compared to the reality warping the mages can pull off.

>>96761118
faeries are real, werewolves are real and way scarier in reality, stay the fuck away from both as a rule

>>96763892
Ah, behold the malnourished fruits of "modern" education. Do not encourage one to think, simply deliver information to be memorized, without regard for context, intent, or ulterior motive. Is "give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, feed him for life" still in common parlance? All this easy access to knowledge you children have, and yet this age produces so many dullards.

If the boy were to listen to the tripe I see bandied about here, he will meet final death in short order. It would be hypocritical then for me to tell him to accept as rote my information. It seems his sire has taken a lax approach to his education, and moreover he is a victim of what passes for mortal education these nights, as are you. Now you would do well to actually think things through, young man, rather than simply absorb information you read on the world wide web.

>>96764185
Which age is yours again?

>>96761923
There's Tremere stinking up the caverns, what do you expect me to do? Not throw pig men at them?

>>96762263
If a Tzimisce offers sex and you accept then it's natural selection at that point

>>96764257
I have been a vampire for a little over 400 years. My life and early unlife were during what is now called by most scholars to be the "early modern period". The end of the renaissance and the beginning of the enlightenment. I find it quite flattering, at the time people did not see it as anything nearly quite so grand. Even in life I regarded myself as a futurist, so I manage as best I can with these computers.

It is a paradox, I know. These nights are so advanced in so many respects, so many marvels not only extant, but easily accessible. However, critical thinking has entered a sharp and sudden decline, most concerningly among those who have undergone higher education. I believe it is the fault of how people are taught. I assure you, as well as I can, that this belief is not simply the result of "rose tinted glasses".

So if magic is real and literally everything is real, how do tarot cards work, because I don't wanna stop making fun of those dumbass astrology girls but shit as far as i know they might be right

>>96764347
You just branch out and make fun of the people that do stocks. Same shit. They're no better, and they get so pissy when you point it out. Anything that equates to throwing darts at a wall to dictate action is laughable. Doubly so when the wall throws those darts back.

>>96764374
Heck. Tarot Card bitches are mostly harmless. stockfags regularly ruin lives. I'm going to go predate on some stockbrokers tonight.

Good evening, fellow Kindred. I come with an inquiry, specifically regarding lupines. It appears that this may be a bad time for this specific question, however, the situation is urgent.

I do not seek general knowledge of their ilk, nor conjecture about their "true nature in the grand cosmic order" or some such debate. I understand, as well as any of us do, the basics. They may shapeshift at will. Their frenzies are far more extreme than ours. Mortals struggle to recall details about them if attacked. Harming them conventionally is ineffective, they regenerate so quickly that one would require extreme physical trauma to kill one in such a manner. Silver bullets slay them with the same ease regular bullets slay big game animals. They possess a host of other abilities, specific to the creature in question, not unlike us. It is best to avoid them entirely.

Now that the obligatory is out of the way, my real question. Have any of you heard of an account of a lupine, without any previous contact, intervening on the behalf of one of our kind? I was dealing with an incursion upon my domain and to my shock, a great black wolf, mangy thing that it was, attacked one of my assailants and dragged it away into the night. There have been no further sightings of the beast, even accounting for distorted mortal memory. It has, near as I can tell, vanished entirely. Any response would be appreciated; these are uncharted waters for me.

>>96764307
Those critical thinking skills of yours must be dulled by age, gramps, if you can't see the irony of withholding information with a "tut tut, figure it out on your own, you dullard" while posting on a network specifically made for the purpose of sharing information amongst Kindred.

>>96764699
It's common with older licks. You can get good info if you bring the right incentive (fsvors, blood bonds; a shitkicking), but for nothing you get talked around and around and around.

>>96739507
The track and field out behind the town's only high school was the only place in town with their lights on. We pulled over a block away from the school and went the rest of the way on foot, trying to avoid any unwanted attention. As we reached the trees that lined the perimeter of the stadium, we could make out the murmuring of a large crowd periodically interrupted with sudden uproarious applause.

On the far side of the field, there was a platform lit by floodlights. In front of the platform there was a small crowd and a much larger crowd a little bit further off from the stage. I don't know how many people were in the large crowd but it must have been at least a few hundred if not thousands of people given how they filled up most of the football field.

There were ten of them on the platform, all clothed in robes and standing completely still. One of them stepped forwards and with a booming voice called out a name–Rita. A woman from the small crowd, Rita I assume, stood up and climbed onto the stage. The Robed One drew a knife out of his robes, slit his wrist, presented his bleeding wrist to the crowd and then commanded Rita to drink from it. The crowd blew up when Rita drank. Then, with a swift jerking motion, the Robed One pulled Rita towards him and bit down on her neck. Rita flailed wildly before going limp in the Robed One's arms.

It was only at this point that we realized that the ten robed ones were probably the Cainites we were looking for. After the lick had his fill, he let Rita's body drop to the floor. Their applause halted, replaced with anxious silence until Rita started moving again whereupon the crowd erupted into cheering once more, tapering off as Rita, quivering, made her way off the stage. The Robed one stepped back in line with the others and another Robed One stepped forward and repeated the process.

Unless these guys were total neonates, there was no way we were going to take on ten vamps and their mob of followers.

>>96764808
We booked it back home in the van. The coterie's still arguing among themselves over whether or not we should report this blood cult to the Prince. If anyone finds out we witnessed a giant masquerade breach without telling anyone... well, you know.

On the other hand, Vinnie's more concerned about someone else taking the credit and the territory for cleaning up this mess if we report it to the Sherrif. He's convinced that we can take on the blood cult and secure the domain as our own. He's managed to convince the two ex-shovelheads(they weren't treated very well by the local Camarilla) and he's trying to win our nosferatu and toreador over promises of greater independence.

God/Caine/Hermes, get me out of this looney bin and I'll devote myself to your service!

>>96742444
On the drive home I asked him why he thinks we can take on a whole cult town and where we'll get the resources to clean up afterwards. He started talking unprompted about the ignity and courage of blood and then he started listing off every single time one of his ancestors faced seemingly impossible odds going all the way back to Ventru. I won't repeat what he said here because I'm pretty sure some enterprising genealogist can figure out his real identity based on his bloodline.

>>96749567
Oh, so that's what those are for. Good to know.

I know I'm not supposed to talk to antitribu but would you be willing to share how one can learn magic outside of the Pyramid? I'm not really considered a proper Tremere myself, more of a lab rat really

>>96764467
The dogs quarrel amongst each other all the time. Perhaps their personal vendetta was greater than whatever hate the black one had for our kind

>>96763058
Chelys, je pourrais t'embrasser! It took some effort to convince Marcus, but we were able to have a Seminole medicine man perform a cleansing ritual as you suggested. Whatever spell or curse had afflicted the museum staff appears to have been lifted and things have returned to normal - barring the need to put everything back where it belongs, of course. Since the sender is unknown, with no return address, Marcus has decided to donate the artifacts to the Navajo Nation. He intends to make a public event out of it. Encore une fois, je vous remercie pour votre aide.

I would like to thank everyone for their information and advice last night. Unfortunately, witch girl called and said I should meet her tomorrow night or else "Misery will abound". To be honest, I'm pretty scared after hearing about all of this magic business. What if she scries my location and reality warps my balls off or something? My sire is out of town on a business trip right now. I told one of his ghouls about this, but he just laughed at me and said I should "Find out for myself", which hasn't given me a lot of confidence.

>>96765561
>What if she scries my location and reality warps my balls off or something?
Don't worry, they should probably grow back. Not that you need them, anyway.

>>96765646
That's what he said too, but I've got a vested interest in keeping my balls attached to my body. I just learned how to make that kind of stuff work again.

>>96765561
I'm surprised no one has brought this possibility up yet but she could just be another vampire fucking with you. With some effort, you can make yourself look alive and even eat food and keep it down for a bit

>>96755593
Sorry for the delay, had to dig up the notes.
Overall, as stated, the vial-Tzimisce were in a slowly-evolving state, so separating individual stages is mostly pointless.
The most interesting are the furthermost-evolved form, which appears to be a Tzimisce warform taking on a permanent state. It was no doubt not the furthest it could go, just the furthest observed. The last three survivors were about equivalent in power, and they were also constantly using their fleshcraft in combat, altering themselves on the fly and absurdly fast and expansively, but overall the description of them in a state of relative calm or pause is fitting to most advanced warform traits. There's no knowing if they were stuck in the warform, or just kept it on out of intense paranoia.
>8-12 feet tall
>Usually bipedal, two-armed and two-winged, with an extended, somewhat reptillian mouth and a prehensile tail
>Heavy, large 'scales', some as big as a teacup plate, give or take, with eyes in holes formed by the scale pattern
>Resistant to fire
>Claws and teeth induce a rot in living flesh and a dustening of sorts in vampiric flesh
>Entrails are a weapon of their own, acting autonomously if torn out, plus if attached the vial-Tzimisce had a strange ability to shoot them out to entagle
>Extremely fast reflexes and overall speed, suggesting Celerity, along with other physical traits suggesting solid mastery of physical disciplines
>Bodily fluids excluding vitae are acidic
>Vitae itself is not described in any way, suggesting it is somehow worse
>Psychology is nigh-unfunctional, with ones observed in combat being in a semi-lucid Frenzy of sorts, while the project one was obsessive and initially even ignored itself being gutted so long as its project, growing bit by bit, was not disturbed
>Brief lucidity periods still present, even in those the dark triad traits are pronounced but not overwhelmingly so
Feel free to ask further questions on the subject, still going through the notes.

>>96764898
Allow me to clarify. My assailant was Kindred in origin (Sabbat to be specific), and yet this beast, unmistakably Lupine, intervened to my benefit. It had its own motive to be sure, but nevertheless it did no harm to me. I find that curious.

>>96755695
I'm guessing the vials must've had some sort of ambient mind-controlling effect, it's really just too fucking dumb to drink mystery Tzimisce juice. Or maybe actively wanted to be consumed, and went out of its way to accomplish that.
>>96764185
You're looking at a man rolling around while burning up, and telling him that he should perhaps consider not touching the stove. Unless you're interested in crawling out of whatever hidey-hole you reside in, o elder, and assisting this man directly, as to give him time to actually figure out everything glacially-slowly but on his own, you should be using this opportunity to teach him things.
>>96764347
Tarot are a very weak form of scrying, clairvoyance, precognition, all that. It works. Poorly, though. Had a friend who was into trying to use them on scale and seriously, he kept complaining that store-bought decks are 'all sorts of hostile, man, they're outright maliciously compliant, man'. So maybe make your own, if you want to fuck around with them.
>>96764467
Oh, that's a fun topic. Mind if I ask who your allegiance is to, and who th assailants were, along with if they or you happen to have any friends or enemies in the Sabbat? I've got several options to explain your lupine encounter.

>>96764699
It seems the problem is quite chronic if that was how you have taken my advice to the boy. Worse still, I fear for your future if you have not yet learned to be distrustful of your fellow Kindred, and to scrutinize what they say quite carefully. That is the message I wish to impart on the boy.

>Be ventrue
>Go to the city council as usual
>Pass through the retarded Brujah who won't shut up every about muh coterie rights in every meeting
>Feel a hand on my ass
Every-single-time. This is why you retards always get wacked by the sheriff. You can't see female kindred without acting like apes.

>Be ventrue
>Go to the city council as usual
>Pass through the retarded Brujah who won't shut up about muh coterie rights in every meeting
>Feel a hand on my ass
Every-single-time. This is why you retards always get wacked by the sheriff. You can't see female kindred without acting like apes.

>>96764864
>I know I'm not supposed to talk to antitribu but would you be willing to share how one can learn magic outside of the Pyramid? I'm not really considered a proper Tremere myself, more of a lab rat really
Same way you learn magic inside the Pyramid. Sometimes from the same people, just at more competitive rates since they get less of a monopoly, if you can try and seek out Sabbat antitribu, Anarch antitribu, or random-asshole-in-a-trenchoat antritribu. It's just a matter of having something valuable to offer, ultimately. You, however fresh you are, still happen to have value. A fresh set of eyes, little true ties to anybody, an unaccounted for man - that's useful. And you can make it so you're worth more, to people.
>>96767824
Ah, yeah this answers my question, didn't see it in time.
Overall, there's several different reasons why a wolf may have chosen to do this. You are wise to point out not harming you, because that probably rules out just purifying the night as the cause. I doubt you're much of a nature enthusiast, so it probably doesn't just kind of like you.
Overall, I've had heard a lot about Sabbat in some areas, in some strange way, procuring werewolf mercenaries, while I was shopping around for ingredients. The mercenary variety of wolf is usually actually fairly mangy, apparently, and don't really offer their parts for sale, and when they do, they're usually not quite as usable as regular wolf bits. This Sabbat getting kidnapped mid-assault does make me wonder if somebody hired the wolf - either specifically to protect you, or to take out the Sabbat attacker. Maybe it's inner-sect conflict, or the attacker didn't pay what he owed to the wolf? Could also be that the guy who got wolfnapped did something to offend the local wolves, and this was personal.
I'd need descriptions of the wolf and some local politics gossip to guess with more accuracy.

>>96767842
Certainly. Though I will keep some details hidden, operational security, I am sure you understand.

I am loyal to the Camarilla. My assailants were Sabbat, nomads almost certainly, there are no permanent Sabbat strongholds in the area. I must admit they caught me off-guard at first, so far from the frontlines in that particular war, I was not expecting a large and seasoned pack of Sabbat nomads to arrive upon my doorstep. I do not have any particular enemies among that sect, but the Sabbat do not care about particularities. All outside their deranged cult are enemies.

>>96767889
How vile. My condolences, cousin. If there is any justice in your city, the offender should have his hand cut off and cauterized. No Kindred should suffer such an indignity.

>>96767938
So:
>Camarilla who's knowledgeable-ish about werewolves, so maybe not a fledgling
>Seemingly not psychotic, maybe one of the reasons why there's no Sabbat in town
>Assaulted by an out-of-town, large Sabbat pack, potentially one arriving to establish a foothold in a new area
>Got to witness a strange, mangy wolf attack this pack and leave him entirely alone
>And then it just vanished, as werewolves who are doing a hit job prone to do at times
Oh, man, this is great. I'm placing whole one dollar on that the wolf belongs to a cleverer-than-usual pack that correctly identified you ast he lesser evil, twenty bucks on that it was a mercenary who had some sort of split with the pack who hired it to be extra spooky muscle, and fifty on that the nomads upset this guy's pack in some way and he went out of his way to fuck them up while they were busy with you.

>>96767929
>>96768072
Lupine mercenaries? Hmm. You would figure the Camarilla would have an easier time procuring them, we pay better after all. The wolf itself was unnaturally large, standing a bit shorter than my height at its shoulder. I'm tall, but not prodigiously so. Its jaws were, as mentioned, large enough to grab and hold a grown man and carry him off. The beast's coat was dark, almost matte black and patchy in some places, with a skin nearly as pale as ours.

As for local politics, what can I say without making myself a beacon for other Sabbat marauders... I occupy a position within my local Camarilla that not every domain or even region has. Marquess. I have also heard "Satellite Prince" or Margrave be used. Let's say you are a Prince who has a city, but quite a lot of that city's population actually lives outside of the city limits. Or you do not wish to allow Sabbat or Anarchs to fester in the more rural towns that inevitably orbit large cities such as yours. The answer? You grant domain, including semi-autonomy in enforcing the traditions, to a younger vampire that is loyal to you. It prevents dissention from the young by rewarding enterprising neonates, extends your influence and thus eyes well past proper cities limits, and provides yet another check to the Primogen council's power. In America, where I unlive, we have many suburbs and satellite towns and thus, this is our solution. It is not an American invention however, from what I understand it's something of a dusted off and repurposed pre-Thorns practice.

My domain is near the countryside, but I have never had even a peep of lupine activity. The proximity to the countryside is why I educated myself on the basics of lupines. I suppose it is good to have my suspicion confirmed that if they wanted me slain, they would have attempted to do so. What still eludes me is this: Why kidnap the Sabbat? It could've split him in half with those jaws, but instead it carried him off into the night.

>>96768135
While I've been extremely lucky to avoid any and all personal encounters with wolves who sell their services to the Sabbat, I've got enough second-hand testimonies and descriptions to overconfidently say that you really don't want to hire the sort of werewolf that sells their services. Too destructive, too sadistic, too absurdly violent, too prone to fuckery. Everything you don't want if you want to keep the peace and avoid things going on fire.
>The beast's coat was dark, almost matte black and patchy in some places, with a skin nearly as pale as ours.
Almost definitely the sort that sells their services, they have a habit of looking utterly diseased.
>Why kidnap the Sabbat? It could've split him in half with those jaws, but instead it carried him off into the night.
Oh, that's easy, torture. Or interrogation. For all their bloodthirst and brutality, the mercenary werewolves tend to be exceedingly sadistic, and if this Sabbat pack, for instance, hired some wolves for a task, only to dip out of town and move to somewhere else (to your domain, specifically) to avoid having to pay, under the delusion that they could fuck with hired werewolves like that, a reprisal would have to be exceedingly gruesome. Just killing the pack while they're attacking you makes it so it could seem like you got them.
But here you are, retelling this story in relative public, and here I am, guessing it might be werewolf mercenaries upset with their clients. Having you see the kidnapping only adds to the effectiveness of the message being conveyed.
Though a grudge or offense of any other sort also could be the cause, obviously. But the culprit is probably one of those mercenary lupines.

>>96764864
This does not sound like a typical Anarch Domain, mon cher. This does not even sound like the sloppiest work of my own kin. If you have a discreet method to send out a warning to your Prince or Sheriff, I recommend you do so. Better to earn the ire of your temporary coterie than risk Final Death against 4-to-1 odds - not even taking into consideration how many of the town's population may be ghouls.

>>96767898
It could always be worse, ma chérie. Trust me.

>>96765278 My french is terrible so forgive mistakes
Je te souhaite bonne chance, petit serpent, j'espère que l'événement se déroulera sans problème -Kakophoni
>>96767765
Sounds like whoever made them were intending for soldiers, will have to browse Scholar's notes to see if he recorded anything similar.

>>96768239
I see. Thank you for the information, you have given me much to think about.

>>96770161
Little!?!?

>>96770836
Quelque chose ne va pas, ma belle? Je ne suis pas fan du descripteur?
-Kakophoni
thank google translate for the clutch as I can't contact my french friend for help.

>>96763757
Ahhh, how white are the nagaraja clan? I got embraced by a different clan and we got standards, even for the maids.

>>96763897
Oh nm. What's the going rate for help these days anyways.

>>96764305
I mean is that much different then most vampires. I sort of presume if a Trimmy is offering they'll stick to their word. I still worry about people being lead by their dick in their postlife but I guess that's just the nature of the curse.

>>96769688
I'd like to do just that. I'm racking my brains trying to figure out how get the word out without getting branded as a thin blood AND a snitch. I'm the only one left in the coterie who isn't salivating at the thought of semi-indpendence in their own domain.

I'll ask my Sire what to do. She's so wise, surely she'll know how I can get the word out to the authorities

>>96771538
dropped my name

This sounds stupid but i have got to ask. What is the physically biggest supernatural being any of you have personally seen with your own eyes?

Like the biggest thing i have ever even heard of is the War ghouls of the Tzimisce. And as big as those things are said to be in the old stories they are just supposed to be big truck sized right? Have any of you ever seen anything that earned the title of giant in your eyes? Or is everything supernatural just mostly human sized for some reason?

>>96771671
>Muh dick

>>96771671
How big would something have to be to count as giant? I've personally seen the inside of an old world Fiend's watchtower and I'm convinced the whole thing was alive, just covered in a layer of stone-like scales. It was eight stories high and about 13 yards across at the base. Every now and then, I swear I could see the "stones" shift and then return to their original position like the damn thing was ever so slowly breathing.

>>96771671
>What is the physically biggest supernatural being any of you have personally seen with your own eyes?
For a given definition of "see?" Ravnos, Calcutta 99.

>>96772206
That really happened? I thought it was just a powerful Methuselah who got ambushed by the Indian Cainites while a Typhoon was passing through the area. That's the version of events I'm told, anyways.

>>96772206
Yeah sure buddy, you wanna see some more antes? I've got a couple in my basement.

>>96765278
Un beso para mi de tí es el grito del mi corazon. Glad I could help though! >>96764083
Found him. He’s areanged transit via cargo ship in the morn. Gonna reenact the Demeter when I get to Galveston.
>>96763897
Attach a note to the box so Jimothy doesn’t die opening it please. It’s hard to find good help these days.
>>96772206
>>96773037
Every ravnos I’ve met has PTSD about it. Like talking to a Dday veteran level. Every one else though says it was just like you said. One hell of a storm and some sect-level drama.

>>96771671
I used to live in a city with this 9 foot Nosferatu tank, like 20 years ago. Scary as shit, the stories I heard about him would have given me nightmares if I could still dream. We never really spoke, or rather, HE never really spoke. Mostly silence and an occasional grunt or groan.

>>96771671
Do visions count? Ive had numerous visions of new york and something in romania. Also there was 1999, i was screaming nonstop for a week, had to have a ghoul bring me bloodbags to keep me from going hungry.

>>96773956
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>>96773037
>>96773924
I don't fault anyone for not believing. Heck, I think Blue posited a theory that it was "Just" someone's Nightmare of Zarahowever You Spell it, made real by the Ravnos mojo running rampant. The Bishop warned that might be true waaay back in 2000, s'why my post-Victory plans involve hitting up India, making god damned sure. The comparison to a force of Nature is apt, but it didn't move like a typhoon. More like a predator on the hunt, one large enough to fill entire streets where it pursued the other nightmares and snuffed them out, then stopped rooted around before seeking out it's next victim.
Course, when I "saw" it I was on the top floor of the Chatterjee, looking down at the path of the devastation, and I don't remember much after I made the damn fool decision to try to get s better look with Auspex.

>>96775291
Did you learn any vampire secrets when you looked at Ravnos and survived with Auspex? Or did you just get hit with a mind attack and get knocked out before you could even see anything?

>>96776142
I saw where its eyes should be.

>>96776394
Oh... Oh that is not good is it?

>>96776544
it means he dont got eyes and he cant hit what he cant see

>>96709814
your blood is the most addictive drug in existence anon
just make the junkie (i.e Ghoul) pay for it

>>96775291
What interest me the most are the cosmological ramifications. If the first Ravnos was indeed destroyed without Diablerie or any other method of ensuring that someone could assume its place, then it means that the divine laws that Ra placed upon this world-prison are beginning to weaken; perhap even already broken.

>>96771538
If I were in your shoes, I'd accept being branded as a snitch rather than commit suicide with extra steps. Hopefully your Sire can provide the solution you seek.

>>96771071
I admit that I may be a tad short, but I am most certainly not little!

>>96709814
Use the cobweb to predict which companies get big. I sumped every cent i had into Google, apple & Amazon when they were small compamkes via ghoul proxies, made mpre money than i could need. Also take financial advice from ventrue, people may rag on them but ventrue are the ones who invented, perfected and run the game of finance.

>>96777459
Tu es si mignon quand tu es en colère, petit serpent. btw, the repairman I recommended is currently on his way to your museum, also did you want those relics I mentioned? -Kakophoni

>>96776855
Isn't that a fast way to get tied down to a chain in a basement connected to a IV cord draining your blood into a blood bag for the rest of your now short unlife?

>>96780149
Only if you're a fool about it

>>96780149
If you're so inept that you can't keep a handle on your ghoul, you deserve to be chained up in a basement to have your vitae harvested.

>>96778779
Do you see the tech giant bubble burst like the nifty fifties anytime soon?
It's not insider trading if nobody knows you can see the future

>>96778919
>>96777459
Mayhaps the little snake needs to get a little snake in her?

>>96780695
You dont need to be one of the 9th clan to see the Bubble of generative imagery & videos is going to burst HARD. Also its inconsistent, sometimes it tells you to invest in cryptocurrency (a non zero amount of my clanmates went broke buying NFTs? I think thats what theyre called) other times youre told to buy microsoft stocks before windows 95 iz launched.

>>96755829
Your blush of life?

>>96782337
I think I understand, my RSS feed pushes articles from 2003 too sometimes

>>96782998
That is something to think about. Can the Nosferatu use the blush of life at all? I know that there curse makes them look like undead monsters. But if they use the power of there blood can they make themselves look like Living monsters like horrible burn victims or something like that? If for nothing else than to make them look like a normal horrific accident victim or born a normal freak of nature that gets banned from all clubs and party's.

Or are they always going to be nothing more than masquerade breaches waiting to happen without using the powers of illusions?

>>96784205
Pretty sure they still look like horrible freaks, just warm-bodied horrible freaks who can eat, drink and fuck for a short time.

Say, if I wanted to fly like a gargoyle but I am not a gargoyle. And I don’t want to turn into a bat or any squishy animal. What can I do?

Misread when the game starts, so Shark won’t be able to respond before the 26th… shame, I guess there won’t be another schreck.net thread before next October when this month ends.

>>96786268
The tremere can fly with telekinesis. Maybe you could ask one of them for help

>>96786337
I want to fly by myself, and asking the Tremere to teach me their magic is harder than making a garou calm down

>>96786394
I never said it'd be cheap or easy

>>96782337
You didn't hear it from me but the Pyramid™ is looking into using Thaumaturgy on muh AI.

>>96786268
....
there's always the cheesemakers

>>96782285
Ahora que lo dices, sería una madre hermosa. Por desgracia, los vampiros no pueden tener hijos. On another note, how has your return trip been, hermano? Was macedonia any trouble? -Kakophoni
I assume Chelys is referring to little snake like a child.

>>96786957
I expected nothing less from the Unicorn drinkers.

>>96771538
I spoke to my Sire and she told me to sit tight in the old laboratory and await further instructions from her. I knew she'd have my back. >>96777459
Here's hoping
>>96784205
I'm pretty sure our nossie uses the blush of life to drink Mountain Dew every now and then. Her warren is littered with empty Dew bottles
>>96786268
There's always paramotoring if you're willing to settle for a personal flying machine. pic related

>>96755892
>>96755964
I want to give my take on this fully, after dating a bunch.

>Brujah
Will not shut up, and are perpetually wound up. But if you get them to unwind, angry sex is 10/10

>Gangrel
Distant and smelly. Too much of a loner to date.

>Malkavian
Do not date my clanmates. She is insane, i dont care how good she is in bed.

>Nosferatu
A coinflip between someone so internally beautiful you could spend eternity together, or just as ugly inside as she is outside.

>Toreador
Nothing but contempt for them. She will nearly breach the masquerade hunting you down if she thinks for a second you were unfaithful. Not worth the effort.

>Tremere
Somehow rival the Roses in terms of freak nasty behavior. I know what they did, and what they are into.

>Ventrue
Abusive and controlling. Amazing if you have no self respect.

>Lasombra
Beautiful, terrible in bed, and deeply insecure about their appearance.

>Tzimisce
TEETH.
TEETH.
But if youre in a platonic Nonsexual relationship with one, theyre quite nice. Results majorly vary, especially the hardcore sabbat ones. Shes actively trying to make herself into a creepy flesh monster, and youre a distraction from that.

>Giovanni
Smells like death, calls you daddy a bit /too/ enthusiastically.

>Ravnos
Kleptomaniacs. pretty damn hot though.

Also I want to mention the Former Clans

>Cappadocian
Smells even more like death. Cannot stomach being near one.

>True Brujah
Met one dating a clanmate once. She was stupidly emotionally distant, talked bluntly and was weirdly stilted. Ive never seen two kindred more in love.

>Salubri
Met one, once.
They dont deserve the fate of vampires. They are better than all of us.

>>96787592
>Even in death, Women have found a way to disappoint me.

>>96787482
Macedonia was no issue. Always was a fan of Alexander. Great guy. The trip back was uneventful. Skelton crew of like 20 people. Ghouled a handful of engineers and deck officers. Drank the workers the day before we came to port. Once docked, I set the ship ablaze. I think they contained it. They might be puzzled at the lack of bodies though. Back home regardless. New nagaraja maid has put a lady’s touch on the place, it’s quite nice. Now if only me or Jimothy spoke hindi.
no it was just a dick joke

>>96697705
>What, [silver] actually for real works, like in fucking fairy tales?
I thought we introduced that concept to wider Kine society through a movie? Weren't the wolves pretty good about keeping that a secret until then?

>>96786957
Isn't a bunch of modern technology being lead around by weird mages? How would Tremere thaumaturgy even interact with that?

>>96709814
Listen man, you've got around three options. There's variances within but they're all in three categories.

Option 1: You get yourself some patrons. Either someone higher up in the chain, or you find some "benefactors" to start paying you. Remember that your vitae is addictive as hell.

Option 2: Own some shit. Maybe directly. Maybe under the table. Maybe through some various shells. Get paid for controlling some shit.

Option 3: Crimes. Break into places and steal things. Roll some people on the street. Rob a 7-11. Do some shit.

Remember friends
Every kindred who claims to have hobnobbed around with someone famous and powerful is full of shit.

>>96755839
It's very simple. You spend ages denied what you once took for (relative) granted and you start to crave it. You're never going to get the rush you get from feeding off of kine food. If we could eat food normally, no one would ever choose to unless they needed to uphold the masquerade.
But it's the fact that you can no longer have it that makes you crave it. Especially now that you're surrounded by constant reminders of it, due to things like advertising. You start thinking about the taste, the texture, the sensation. And it eats at you because it feels so absurd. It's right there. And you can't have it. And even if you can, it will taste like ash.
Also, speaking personally, I want to know what these sodas taste like. They're everywhere, so they must be good, yes?

>>96790305
So you are saying that the really old vampires that were around back in the day were never even in the same area or even country as the famous people of history. Or are you saying that they were in the right places at the right times to go around talking to the big cheeses of the history books but they never had the balls to go up to them and talk to them?

>>96790344
>If we could eat food normally, no one would ever choose to unless they needed to uphold the masquerade.
Speak for yourself, grandpa.

>>96790512
What I'm saying is that not every jackass who lived in Paris in the early 1800s shook hands with Napoleon.

>>96790344
Sodas? It's just sweetness, really. Sometimes it's just sugar sweet, sometimes it's a caramel sweet, sometimes it's a fruity sweet, but no matter what, it's all made from the same slop so it all comes back to the same "soda" sweet everyone is used to.

>>96790305
>Every kindred is full of shit

FTFY. Most of what we say is tactical, even here. Reading between the lines is the only way to find the truth.

not the OP, but since we're near autosage as the second thread, I figured it might be good to collect OOC feedback on if anyone thinks there should be changes to the rules or thoughts on the threads so far?

>>96787592
I can add to this
>Kiasyd
weird as fuck and no two are exactly the same, one can be the kinkiest kindred ever or the most lovingly tender. no middle ground. My guess is the fae-touch that makes them more emotional compared to other lasombra.
>Baali
never attempt under any circumstances, it's not worth it. knew a guy who tried and he got sacrificed.
> Camarilla
sexually repressed
>Anarch
the most stable
>Sabbat
wild and rough
>Daughters of Cacophony
the one I was with was cold at first but when warmed up was really damn affectionate/lustful.
>Gargoyle
Heard of a kindred who managed it, can't confirm that though

>>96790836
Hey man, if you can't figure out how to meet a celebrity with all your vampire powers, then that's a skill issue on your end.

>>96792442
yeah, OP here. I was wondering if we should do a thread topic like WODG does. Something vaguely just to ask all the anons/characters in the thread.

>>96790924
>so it all comes back to the same "soda" sweet everyone is used to.
Which is a flavor I've never experienced.

>>96790552
It's allways funny to see Kindred honestly believe that you could never desire water after drinking soda

>>96792878
yes, it'd be fun

>>96792963
>Old vamps will never know the wonder of O-Tullys 5 gallon 8$ Cherabog Cherry

>>96792878
Historically some posters would provide the equivalent of a TQ in the first few posts, but those posters haven't made a return. I think that way works a bit better for immersion, if someone would be willing to take up the mantle.

would this be a good TQ for next thread: "If you could gain one discipline you wouldn't normally have, ie a clan/bloodline specific one, what would it be?"

>>96792963
Coke tastes like a dark caramel. The fizziness of it is like hundreds of tiny bubbles continuously popping on your tongue

>>96771671
A while back, before I attained my autonomy, my Sire took me and some other Childer out to the Rockies for a fairly complicated, prolonged ritual meant to let us tap into what was, apparently, a long-abandoned werewolf place of power.

Actually finding the place was fairly difficult, as it from all accounts migrated - and maybe still migrates - around a large, mountainous terrain by means unknown. It was certainly not the wolve moving it, because that's not how their places of power normally work, plus the tribe that clung to it was long gone, and Garou overall did visit the area, but not very intently. So, we basically had to loiter around national park territory, making do with risky lodgings and local wildlife for sustenance, all while hoping that we'd not run into any Garou.

It was on the night three of that expedition that I started to notice a fucking mountain follow us.

It was subtle yet impossible to miss once you knew what to look for. In the clearest nights, there was nothing; but in the foggiest, the dimmest, it was a cragged, sharp peak, 'circling' us, a mile or two away at all times, using other mountains for cover. For all of its absurd size, it was utterly quiet. It drew closer and closer as the fog turned heavier, and retreated as it turned weaker. As is the law of such things, the fog got the thickest around the place of power. The thing got close enough that some sort of switch flipped, and we could hear it - the absurd weight of millions of tons of rock scraping about, groaning of the earth underneath it. It got very rowdy when we started the ritual, but that is more private than I feel like disclosing.

>>96792878
I don't mind a loose thread topic, Im still just going to post a detective malkavian as usual and leave. Perhaps a challenge or a character request type thing would be interesting? Making a 'a day in the life of kindred at Halloween' might be okay.

>>96794937
what do you mean by a challenge/request?

>>96797571
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