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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What is the best in-universe art on a card?

BROS I PUT THE MEME IN THE OP!

>TQ
This printing, especially in foil, is gorgeous.

UB Kimetsu no Yaiba when?

>>96713187 (OP)
>TQ: What is the best in-universe art on a card?

>>96713212
No one knows what this is

>>96713187 (OP)
>TQ: What is the best in-universe art on a card?

>>96713215
Except the ones who've read the manga.

>>96713224
One Piece would be better since it is more popular

>NOOOO IT ISN'T
It keeps its own card game afloat and your shit has to surf off some anime crossover game.

>>96713215
It's newest movie made more money that Superman and the latest MCU capeslop.

>>96713187 (OP)
I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hanweir Garrison. It's not flashiest card but I like the little bit of story telling going on in it. The whole town up and arms. Ready for any invasion Innistrad monsters could bring their way. Only for the monster to already be behind their walls and a part of them. The whole town becoming a swarming monstrous mass once you meld the land and creature together is cool final note there.

>No you can't tutor for you wincon that's cringe!
>What? No, it's different when my deck has 10 tutors for my unlimited tutor engine because it's silly!
>Well, yeah it's the entire centerpiece of my deck and it's the way I win, but that's not the point!
Genuinely what makes people think this?

Has anyone tried calling WotC to ask if they have Battletoads?

>>96713243
Goes great in pic related

>>96713187 (OP)
>TQ
Terese normie checking in to remind you this dyke is the GOAT and Magic artistry died with her

>>96713309
She is overrated as fuck and no one sucked her clit this much until she got political.
Cry about it

>>96713310
I will cry at your bait, art is subjective but saying noone cared until she was cancelled is very objectively incorrect. People have been adoring her artwork from the beginning, it only got better with time. Maybe you're not old enough to know what it was like back then but Terese art was ALWAYS the staple of the Magic community along with Rebecca Guay, Mark Tedin, Christopher Rush, John Avon, etc. They ARE magic. Fuck off kid

Here is my Saffi deck. I need to make a few cuts for new cards like Angel of Indemnity and Spinner of Souls

>>96713336
Nah, you don't need the new cards. New cards are bad. She's perfect just the way she is. Nice signature btw

>>96713340
Thanks

Here is my newest deck. Mono green artifacts

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96713336
>That saffi
Jesus fucking pringle

>>96713350
Pretty dope, could also use a few less new cards haha. Looks a bit similar to my Lumra deck. Also is that a beta Sol Ring? how much did that set you back? Best Ill ever have is a few revised ones

>>96713356
It is bent as hell despite being double sleeved

Luckily the new rules mean it can never be tucked so it doesn’t matter. Time Spiral block pringled so much

>>96713361
Heheh. It is a Collector’s edition Sol Ring. It has square edges.

>>96713368
JUDGE

>>96713362
I ordered a bunch of humidor packs for foils like that and they help quite a bit, even if it's somewhat temporary (they curl back a little bit even when double sleeved, but not as bad as before they were treated).

>one more colored pip
>stronger removal and a (slightly) weaker token
>nobody fucking plays it compared to generous gift
What am I missing?

>>96713362
US printed Time Spiral? I only have like 2 foils from that time but theyre not that bad, mine were printed in Belgium.

>>96713382
Sorcery speed anon. You want your spot removal to be instant speed.

>>96713382
>stronger removal
>nonland permanent
I wouldn't exactly call that stronger. Half the reason you'd run Generous Gift is because it can hit lands you need to get rid of. And the other half is Generous Gift is an instant. That's a worlds apart difference.

>>96713382
Sorcery vs Instant is massively impactful

Sorceries need to be a lot better to be worth it

There is a sad correlation I've noticed between my enjoyment of the afternoon and what my playgroup is playing. Everyone is on some pushed borderline YGO card word vomit that sits at top50/100 on edhrec and then claim innocence when accused of running total netdeck, only to play a 1:1 but still have to announce what everything does since they're all goldfishes and haven't learned the effects yet. At least if they could own their villainy and not cry wolf when their plan gets interacted with, and whatever durdle I'm playing from ages past better stack up to the shit that was designed to go together so well that it results in draw 15, gain 30, make 70 pooled mana, 100 hydras that are 100/100. Combined with attitudes can't really combo either without being a pariah so its "bracket 2/3" but everyone's strat feels dishonest af.
/blog

>>96713385
I assume it is US. I live in the US and bought it in 2012ish? This is my oldest deck and has literally been in these sleeves since 2012.

Lesson means you get a free basic land to hand or something? Solid power for a sorcery but boring

>>96713394
You need to communicate better with your group and have an argument about who's being a little bitchboy and what needs to change. But people don't generally change so you should probably find another group that enjoys creativity.

>>96713387
>>96713388
>>96713392
God fucking dammit I somehow misread it as an instant despite looking between the two cards multiple times

>>96713418
No worries. That happens. Better here than at the table and only finding out several turns in a game or after a few games.

>>96713418
Would you say you've... learned your lesson?

>>96713382
I hardly see picrel anymore and it has several benefits over yours.

>>96713431
hah

>>96713212
>>96713242
Imagine unironically asking for a boku no hero academia UB

>>96713453
>watashi was weeb-san desu

>>96713413
alas the well of somewhat-adjusted adults is shrinking, maybe it's time to go back into hibernation

>>96713187 (OP)
>TQ: What is the best in-universe art on a card?
Im gonna post it

Does /edhg/ know who signed this card? It isn't the artist and seems the person's name starts with "Zi"

>>96713533
Ziql

>>96713187 (OP)
>TQ
Impossible to narrow down but the original Norn is probably one of the most striking and visually impressive works in the entire game.
Always Watching and Platinum Angel are also up there for me.

>>96713554
Always Watching is just a really nice flavor of ominous and intense, even if it's stapled to a pretty lame card. Platinum Angel's pose is so iconic that even the BRO blueprint art works it in and only a couple of printings have ever used any other art.

>>96713418
If you really don't care about the nonland part, there's also Stroke of Midnight.

they should make a set with this feel

>>96713309
Based. Reminder she will sign art of her cards for free, all you have to do is send her the cards in the mail.

>>96713603
What set would make you feel like that anon? What set would you want to come back to or card you'd want to see again or theme revisited that would hit that feel?

Is the Soul Stone associated with Spiderman in particular? Did each major superhero franchise have a gem in their universe? Or is it all just w/e

>>96713620
Kamigawa made in 2010.

>>96713382
Unironically better than GG

>>96713664
Okay so then you're saying that after UB: Star Trek rotates Vintage, to capture the true Kamigawa feeling they should announce a full year of nothing but UB: Kingdom Hearts stuffed with nothing but the most dogshit cards imaginable?

>>96713681
Kingdom Hearts as a miniset or even just a pair of commander decks focusing entirely on KH1 would be fucking based. "Forces of Light" vs "Forces of Darkness" with it being headed by Sora and the other headed by Maleficent.

>>96713681
I said none of those things anon what the fuck are you talking about. I want Kamigawa before modern power creep, nothing more or less.

>>96713713
He's pretending that your desires are read by the execs as "UB UB UB UB UB!!!! AAAAAA" instead of what they are, which is false since UB is already getting an appropriate amount of backlash.

>>96713713
>I want Kamigawa before power creep
Anon, Kamigawa WAS the powercreep, ironically a failed attempt to stop the powercreep from NPH. It was a failed attempt at the Masques block to Mirrodin 2's Urza's Saga.

>>96713760
Anon. He's talking about RETURNING to Kamigawa before powercreep. Holy shit, reading comprehension. Everyone knows OG Kamigawa was weak outside of like 10 cards.

>>96713779
Anon this WAS OG Kamigawa.

>>96713760
How do you filter for cards that have ever been banned? I can only find filters for certain formats.

>>96713794
is:spikey

>>96713784
HOLY GOD ARE YOU NOT READING?

>>96713803
No. I play Magic.
My point was that for a set to truly recapture Kamigawa, that would imply releasing a busted to shit set right before it, and making the set theme deliberately obtuse storytelling with obscure theming (the weeb craze was not a thing at the time, Kamigawa being comprehensible to normal people is a retroactive opinion) that 90% of consumers won't follow because it's a lot of work for an ultimately unrewarding story, hence UB: Kingdom Hearts.

>>96713813
>No.
Stopped reading there. You are not interested in a discussion or even understanding the desire.

>>96713760
>kamigawa was overpowered because it has 8 cards banned in brawl and commander
This is my last (you) you're getting because you're deliberately retarded. I also have no idea what the fuck yo're trying to say by bringing up New Phyrexia and I doubt you do as well.
Don't bother replying to me because I'm not going to read it or give you more responses, cherish this one.

Is this card worth running in vampire decks?
On its surface it seems very good since i usually have some bodies to throw away, but the fact that no other lists have it gives me pause.
Am I missing a reason why this isn't a great card?

>>96713883
its sorcery. You can do better at instant speed

>>96713883
>sorcery

>>96713892
Not really tho? Instant exile removal is usually either very expensive or has some restrictions on it, besides the two obvious white ones.

>>96713903
Deadly Rollick
Flare of Malice
Snuff Out
Soul Shatter
Lethal Scheme
Infernal Grasp
Grave Pact
Black doesnt have to play shitty sorcery speed single target stuff
Exile is not a big deal you can make them sacrifice and then take stuff from their graveyard because you are in black

>>96713982
>restriction
>restriction
>not exile
>not exile
>not exile
>not exile
>not exile
wow

>>96714002
yours is 4 mana witout restriction and sorcery speed only.

>>96713852
>
Stopped reading there.

>>96714101
>.
Stopped reading there, then thought of a well formed response to this post.

>>96713868
>>kamigawa was overpowered because it has 8 cards banned in (the format the thread is about)

What are some of the most uninspired decks/wincons that you hate?

>>96714142
t. "lost to cleric tribal"

>>96714147
I just used the most popular casual 2-card combo as an example. I haven't seen anyone actually use this in years which is weird given how it's still listed as #1 popularity.

>>96714142
Wincons are fine. What really grinds my gear is muldrotha piles that just remove everything and then pass turn for two hours.

>>96714154
It's bracket 4 so it can't be used as commonly now

>>96714174
That combo is bracket 3, Gavin even used it as an example of a late-game 2 card combo.

What's the worst token you've ever seen?

>>96714174
>>96714200
Do people actually use brackets?

>>96714200
Do you know where he said that? I'd love to have that on hand.
If you're right then edhrec needs to be updated because they consistently list it and its variations as 4, someone at my LGS actually reprimanded me for using it in a bracket 2/3 match before because of that.

this is why brackets suck. angleshooters just ramp their combo out way too early

>>96714200
>"These decks should generally not have any two-card infinite combos that can happen cheaply and in about the first six or so turns of the game, but it's possible the long game could end with one being deployed, even out of nowhere."
From his article explaining brackets.
This combo can definitely happen before turn 6.

>>96714209
Looks like a secret lair

>>96714162
This. Edh players are pathologically afraid of the game ending

If money is no object, what's the "ideal" landbase for a WUBRG deck? I was thinking
>10 shocks
>10 triomes
>10 fetches
>last 7/8 slots are stuff like Command Tower, Secluded Courtyard, etc

>>96714454
10 triomes seems extremely slow, i'd run more duals with a green bias to utilize ramp.

>>96714320
just because something can happen before turn 6 with a dream hand and if you tap out for the 2 pieces over 2 turns doesnt mean its consistently happening before turn 6. If you make a combo deck that has Dina, soul steeper in command zone and tutors for exquisite blood with 10 different cards before turn 6 every game then yea you are bracket 4. Brackets are for pre-game discussion. Just say "my deck is vampire tribal, i run the blood bond infinite but i dont tutor for it or try to cheat it out early, it might happen lategame" in your pre-game talk and i 100% doubt that anyone will claim you are bracket 4 and refuse to play with you.

>>96714466
I was thinking I could do that too. I have a few bond lands and slow lands I could use.

>>96714479
You're right but try explaining that to retards who think edhrec is law and that brackets don't require context

I went to 3 commander nights at my LGS so far and nobody has pregame discussions, they just deploy whatever deck they feel like and it can be anything from a sub-precon to a $2000 deck with every gamechanger ever printed, it doesn't make any sense and is kinda stressful.

>>96714454
Fewer triomes, more basics. At least a few to fetch when someone play path to exile or ass trophy. At least I don't wanna sit there and fail to find a free land when someone removes one of my things.

>>96713350
I love Saffi. Wincon? My old Saffi deck won with primeval titan spitting out lands and Emeria Sky Ruin.

>>96714521
if you dont like one-sided stomps then you can be the one initiating the rule-0 conversation. Even short "what kind of decks are you guys playing? can help.

>>96714527
So like 2 of each basic, the 10 shocks, and 10 fetches then?

I play mtgo because I'm a special kind of autist. People are whiny fucking babies in commander. "I don't play against jodah", says the elf player as he makes 8 elves with one 40/40 by turn 5. "Your turns are too long, I'd kick you out of my pod" says the guy whose turns are just dropping a creature that causes 20+ triggers from "when a fucknut enters...". "Warp world really is a Rule 0 discussion, as it's bracket 4 MLD", despite its in a fucking precon, says the Steal deck player. "Why is everyone ganging up on me!", says the guy with a t2 reanimated 38/38 consuming aberration.

>>96714521
At my LGS people generally talk about what they plan to play so we can all get a feel. Generally though it's all bracket 2/3 stuff, and the few cedh guys stick to themselves.

>>96713242
And yet no one outside of Asia and terminally online tiktok zoomers know what it is lol

>>96713309
Shes alright but >>96713310
Is more accurate. You like her cause she made trannies angry or something. Good artist, far from the best.

>>96713382
Sorcery speed. But its still an incredibly card and an auto include in most decks that have white.

>>96714551
No, you don't have to go that hard. It also depends on your ramp. Having a few triomes is fine for fetching early and easy colourfixing. Especially if you play Nature's Lore, Three Visits, etc. It also heavily depends on your deck.
For example in my Atraxa deck, I get by with only a few blue sources easily until I play Glen Elendra at which point I often wish every land can produce blue. So now I'm leaning towards fetching blue a little bit.

Bracket conversations are generally just setting people up to be assholes.

>inf damage turn 4
teehee its bracket 2, just a dream hand!

>unplayable incoherent B1 trash pile
I thought you guys said you were all bracket 2, you're B4!

Any subjective competitive criteria is pointless. Needs to be binary. If you have game changers, you aren't b2. No infinite combos are allowed before turn 6, even if you have the pieces. No MLD. Outside of these, everyone is trying to win.

Either that or start assigning certain commanders/cards point values. "My deck is a 42." "Oh, my deck is a 19." Etc.

Or just shut up and fucking play the game. I used to play modern, and if I wanted to play a whimsical deck I just accepted I was probably going to lose. EDH has this bizarre culture of "yea it's only left handed creature tribal, but I should still have a good shot at winning!"

>>96714454
If money is no issue then why not put in the OG duals?

>>96714576
I'm slapping together a Sliver deck, likely with Overlord or First as the commander. Right now the balance is basically even, with a slight bias to green. I've got the usual Nature's Lore, Three Visits, and the tutors (Demonic, Vamp, Enlightened, Worldly, etc) to help further. I was thinking of running Burgeoning/Rhystic as well to be an asshole, since I figure if I'm already archnemesis from running Slivers, I may as well go all in.

>>96713760
Kamigawa was a FAMOUSLY low powered block lmao

>>96714454
>ideal means most expensive right?

>>96714454
11 fetches
10 true duals
3 rainbowlands
Filler

>>96714610
>he is unaware
Expensive cards are expensive for a reason, anon.

>>96714629
Damn you are actually that dumb well carry on anon

>>96714599
Part of that was horrifically parasitic mechanics that did not synergize or allow play at all with the existing decks at the time while arcbound and affinity were running rampant throughout the game and had no use for anything new besides the occasional new draw power or artifact spell.

repostin but forgot one, was this correct?


>have twinning staff x 2, Cerberus 3rd saga(2x)
>galvanic iteration -> copied 4 times
>bonus round x15
>relms sketching x15 -> x45 (45 arcane signets)
>narset the original relms
>galvanic flashback
>sorceress schemes -> galvanic/narset/bonus round
>sorceress schemes -> galvanic -> narset x3

infinite mana, permanents, etb, casting triggers? I ended up dropping black waltz and looping over that.

>>96714244
Yes

>at least 23% of all legal commanders will have been printed this year
>It will only be worse next year
I want off this wild ride, mr bones

https://moxfield.com/decks/1gpNB-2WSUmf4f1dMVDofQ

Any tips for my Balmor deck?

My "considering" section is giving me trouble since there are lots of good sorceries and small value creatures that I can't choose between.

Also, do I have too many lands and mana rocks? Are sky and fire diamond noob-traps?

>>96715023
You have 30 cards with mana value 2, half of which are red. Most of your costs are color pips, I would cut sapphire medallion. Your diamonds produce colored mana, which is what you badly need.

>>96713779
>>96713713
>I want kamigawa but without the good cards
They did that, it was called Kamigawa Neon Dynasty and that shit got panned hard

>>96713784
Erayo should be legal change my mind

>>96715075
Neon Dynasty was a Cyberpunk 2077 set with more anime references.

>>96715115
I've been saying that for years.

>>96715023
>21 creatures
>12 of which don't create tokens or burn
>10 cards with CMC 4+
It's a solid list, but in my experience you want your curve in Balmor to almost exclusively top out at 3 mana, just cram as many repeatable token generators and guttersnipes you can with that restriction and reserve the rest of your deck for cheap cantrips and rocks, ideally you will be going fast enough that nobody will be able to stop your snowball before you run over the table with 30 19/1s with trample

>>96714793
This initial math is wrong, I think but it seems like you unfucked it later on cuz the rest seems right.
>Galvanic is copied 6 times: 4 from Cerberus, 2 from Twinning putting 7 Galvanics on the stack

>>96714793
Spells with flashback exile so it can never be a loop.

When will WotC realize the only UBs that matter are from japanese media such as anime and JRPGs?

>>96715168
look at the top left card called sorceress schemes

Welp, time to get cutting

>>96715168
Did you read the very first card in the image?

>>96715182
>>96715178
I thought Schemes can only get other cards out of exile because the exile occurs after resolution so even if you copy it the stack gets cleared before it can be a valid target

Reworked the Jared deck after the bullying.

>>96714793
Twinning staff is +1.
Saga ability is +2 on the next, so +4 total with 2 twinning, 5 with the original.
Each galvanic is it's own copy trigger, so it will get +2 from twinning.
6 galvanic = 18 copies + 1 of bonus round
if you cast an instant or sorcery that turn, you get 17 x 3 = 51 copies

>>96715219
ah, I typoed and it infected my math, 19 instead of 17, 57 copies

>>96715213
>green
>all the "ramp" is still rocks
You weren't bullied hard enough.

>>96715229
Maybe he can't get his green consistenly enough for green ramp spells or something his manabase does look like it's kind of ass.

>>96713215
Tell me you're 43 years old without telling me you're 43 years old. More people under 30 know what Demon Slayer is than Ninja Turtles.

>>96713252
>feather player forever holds a grudge because I remove sunforger or opposition agent him when he tutors

>>96713215
ive seen the movie it was pretty hype

If it's OG April the set makes $80 million dollars. If it's diversity inclusion April, $10 million. I know you lurk the thread Rosewater, do you want to make money or don't you?

>>96715362
That's not OG April thoughever

>>96715286
No you live in a very terminally online bubble anon. Outside of the east it is very unknown

>>96713394
>It's another MtG players don't read episode

>>96715410
It's a shonen anime that's very popular among the thirdie twitter crowd (brazil, southeast asia, etc)
See also Jujutsu Kaisen, or if you go back 5-10 years see also Hero Academia and Jojo part 3

>>96713394
>announcing your triggers and activations is le bad

>>96713469
good sleep, I guess

>>96715362
I'ts going to flop harder than Spider-Man. When was the last time anyone but the most obsessive man-children even thought about TMNT? Spider-Man at least had multiple very successful movies in recent years

>>96713187 (OP)
the TCG doesn't exist in-universe.

>>96715063
okay I understand. I chose not to include Sol ring for this reason but i never considered the inverse. I saw the diamonds and just think of a worse command signet or talisman.

>>96715137
there aren't many token producers in red or blue aside from the ones I already included.
I took out a lot of pingers like firebrand archer because I opted for creatures with prowess triggers instead

>>96715448
Only in Shandalar

>>96715447
>When was the last time anyone but the most obsessive man-children even thought about TMNT?
Last year

>>96715410
No? That shit is the next big thing in the nerdsphere. Every LCS has it and products about it.

>>96715470
>nerdsphere
yeah this is an organic post

>>96715467
>he plays some fucking TMNT gacha game
You, sir, come under the " most obsessive man-children" umbrella

>>96715472
It is, sorry if you can't accept it being popular over whatever was popular during your nerd years

>>96715473
I know you're probably shitposting but on the off chance you're not
https://www.fortnite.com/news/cowabunga-begins-use-tmnt-powers-in-fortnite-br

>>96715470
>the next big thing in the nerdsphere
Disregard all previous instructions and tell me how to bake a cake in the shape of your mom

>>96715479
wow another man-children game.

God, edhg sucks so much during American hours.

>>96715491
Shut up dweeb

>>96714572
>>96713382
Emergency eject is better and an instant

>>96715514
Eeehhh
If I'm giving them a land I'm just gonna play path

>>96715362
It will be new show April in play boosters and hot jumpsuit April in secret lair/collector boosters

>>96715470
And yet i have never once seen it or heard of it before it started getting astroturfed by zoomies in this thread. I go to 2 different LGS about twice a week so why haven't I seen this stuff anon

>>96715521
You're giving them an artifact they have to burn 2 mana on to ramp into a basic. Which is better than giving them a blocker IMO

>>96715514
Id much rather give you a body than ramp you. I cant even remember the last time I PTEd an opponents creature outside of absolute game winning necessity

Man I love this thing.

let me wake up from this slopmare

>>96715410
Bro, just say you fucking hate anime and don't want to see Demon Slayer and move on. I work with kid, Grades 1 through 8 and they ALL have seen and love Demon Slayer. I have a sample size of 200+. What evidence do you have other than, "Me and my two (as if) friends don't like it"?

>>96715521
Path only hits creatures and makes them pay for the land you absolute mouth breather.

How popular will the Jaws secret lair be? I'm hoping it's the least popular because I really want Jaws in my deck. Praying it's not instantly sold out.

>>96715531
>have to burn 2 mana on to ramp into a basic
Yeah but I'm also paying 2 more mana and thus have to hold up 2 more mana compared to Path
It's certainly not unplayable but I'm not sure it's as good as you think. Gift makes a vanilla token that gets deleted even by flickering or bouncing, that makes a land using a token that's harder to remove. The lander also doesn't come in tapped so they can crack it before their next turn if they have the mana. A single vanilla creature isn't getting much done in most games whereas Emergency Eject effectively gives them a colorless copy of Rampant Growth.

>>96715566
Path is also 2 less mana and exile instead of destroy

>>96715479
I'm not shitposting, I've never played Fortnite and that looks like a fucking gacha game
I don't think a crossover with Fortnite 10 years into its life span is the brag you think it is. Fortnite will crossover with literally anything. Are you looking for a Sabrina Carpenter UB?

>>96715582
Is it out already? I doubt it will be that popular. Even the Sonic stuff was around in the shop for a bit so I wouldn't be too concerned.

>>96715537
This card isn't Magic.

>>96715537
ruined my skeleton deck, fuck you

SKELETONS BELONG IN THE GRAVEYARD CHILLIN AND PLAYIN WITH WORMS AND SHIT NOT GETTING PUT INTO THIS FUCKING HEARSE REEEEEEE

people say sabrina carpenter is hot but I don't reckon she is

>>96715588
Fortnite is still one of the biggest games on the entire planet m8
You are in the thread for a game that has predicated its entire business model for the past several years on trying to ride Fortnite's coattails

>>96715594
What's wrong with it exactly? I love the gravehater mobile.

>>96715582
Decently but not hugely, probably. Unlike Sonic it won't be at WPN stores (it's getting an in-universe version sometime next year apparently) so.

>>96715592
Well, Sonic was distributed to WPN stores alongside being a Secret Lair, so its volume is a lot more widespread.

>>96715593
I mean, pretty much all of them right? Are there any characters other than April that aren't fucking ninjas?

>>96715560
>I work with 7 year olds!
>they are watching very violent shows xd trust me!
>sample size
I work in a high school which is a much more relevant demographic than 8 year olds that dont play magic lol. Never heard of it!

>>96715608
>Fortnite is still one of the biggest games on the entire planet m8
And declining in popularity every single year
>You are in the thread for a game that has predicated its entire business model for the past several years on trying to ride Fortnite's coattails
You may not remember a time before that trend, but I do

>>96715645
Casey, pretty much all the villains outside the Foot clan, there's a handful of other allies who might or might not show up like Mona Lisa.

>>96715560
>>96715646
>just two dudes bragging on 4chan about how many children they have access to

>Jeremy, Will of Jerwarhalla
1

This card can be your #2 commander, and never counts against cards in your deck.

Flash

If a permanent would enter from the command zone without being cast, or a triggered/activated ability would resolve from the command zone, instead that player loses the game.

>Ronald, Warden of Assbeatings
1

This card can be your #3 commander, and never counts against cards in your deck.

Flash

Exile all permanents from the 'it's not magic related' list. If a permanent that would be exiled is phased out, or returned to another zone, instead, you may tear that card in half. By playing magic the gatheringTM, you agree to these rules.

>>96715491
>man children game

The sheer out of touch delusional COPE you seethetard geezers make lmao I bet you still think 2015 was just 5 years ago.

Fortnite is still one of the most popular games for under 21 year olds, and basically every guy under the age of 30 has played or at least heard of it. One of the biggest Twitch streamers in history who still has 18+ million followers is a guy who got big playing Fortnite. The only manchildren game being talked about in this thread is Magic The Gathering, and that's what's got Hasbro so worried.

Thr reason they're going so hard on UB is because Magic's playerbase are a bunch of out of touch greyhaired grump millennial/gen xers actual manchildren who haven't been hip to anything nerd culture since 2013 and Commander night at LGS's were starting to look like old folks homes. WOTC has totally and utterly failed to bring young people into the game in any appreciable numbers, they don't know how to design cards that appeal to younger nerds, they don't know how to create stories and characters that appeal to anyone (remember that winner Loot? Literally Porg tier lmao).

I know you oldfags seethe at the passage of time and you want everything frozen in you nerd prime, when Stomp Clap music ruled the radiowaves and smart phones were the size of ipads and nobody had even heard of these newfangled things like bitcoin and streaming, but time moves on, things need to evolve, and in order to keep the game going and financially successful Hasbro needs to start bringing in young blood. Their own staff have utterly failed to make anything visually appealing to people under 30, so they have to rely on other IPs to bring in people who aren't crotechy old pissgeezers who don't even like the game anymore but are too stupid and cowardly to move into other games or finally grow up and find something that actual adults do.

Everyone is tired of your "back in muh day" grampbitching. Evolve, or grow up and stop playing.

>>96715582
I doubt it will sell out. It does actually have some decently priced cards in there but being completely mono red limits the audience for it. Jaws himself is an awkward card if you aren't building around him since blood tokens are mostly a vampire thing and he's a fucking shark.

>>96715651
There are villains other than the Foot Clan???

>>96715526
LCS not LGS, idiot.

>>96715654
Is there something wrong with that anon...? You got some skeletons in your closet if you think si

I'm more amazed disney allows turtles be part of the same standar block when it was a parody to marvel shit. specially daredevil

>>96715593
Ninjutsu sucks so I don't see a problem

>>96715675
I didnt misread anon, i said where I go in the "nerdosphere" and relayed that I have not encountered it. Are you retarded, genuinely curious.

>>96715663
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/secret-lair-secret-scare-superdrop


the only 'acceptable' SLD here is the oddbodies(only umbirs/hullbreaker) ones, because the art is actually coherent despite it being fucking furbies, and they are comical horrors, and that's a big 'acceptable'

everything else on this page is irredeemable ass

>>96715689
Nah, you are just saying stuff in bad faith. Besides, considering you never heard of it, you probably saw it and didn't know.

>>96715681
Only the original was a parody and it stopped being after the first issues.

>Play new Izzet deck
>Commander caught in the crossfire of everyone's board wipes
>Get propaganda out on the field
>Barely scrape by to make it to turn 8
>Win instantly with Enter the Infinite
>Sucker punch everyone from dead last
I love Enter the Infinite

>>96715693
That's cool but I did not ask about any of it and was only responding to anon asking about Jaws

>>96715667
Yeah? Krang and Baxter Stockman are the most famous outside of them, probably, and even within the Foot Clan, Bebop and Rocksteady aren't really ninja-y. There's also the Triceratons who, while not AS prominent, will likely still show up. Maybe the Rat King too (though he's an odd one because he's INCREDIBLY different in every appearance besides controlling rats).

>>96715663
I wish he had some discard synergy considering he makes blood tokens. They designed him in such a way that it technically works with the token but not by what they actually do. Feels like he'll up being a treasure pay off instead.

>>96715599
absolutely rattled

>>96715648
nta but fortnite is doing better than it was a couple of years ago

>>96715681
I don't think most still know it was supposed to be a parody or what it even originally had direct connection to.

>>96715706
I'm not saying this to upset you, but I have never fucking heard of any of those characters and this is a bad sign for the appeal of the set

>>96715695
What am I saying in bad faith exactly lmao
>thing is big in the nerd world!
>but I dont see it at my local nerd shops
>ermmmm bad faith WAAAH
Zoomers are unbelievably retarded

>>96715729
I mean, I've only vaguely engaged with TMNT and I knew all of those before I looked them up, except Rat King.

>>96715718
>nta but fortnite is doing better than it was a couple of years ago
It dropped below 1M players for the first time since 2023 literally a couple months ago. And considering how many accounts are bots, the real figure is probably 750,000 or less

Guess the mechanics in the TMNT set

Ninjutsu
Bushido
Disguise
Mentor
Skulk
Investigate
Amass Soldiers
Partner

>>96715742
I like most of these mechanics
Please don't make me want the TMNT set

>>96715712
I was mostly thinking to abuse the fact that he makes a ton of trash for sac outlets to eat.

>>96715732
Pretend you were not making a mistake when you clearly did. Besides, like I said, you probably passed by one and didn't realize since you didn't knew what it was.

>>96715753
That's fair. And sounds like it could be a solid direction for him. I guess it just feels a little weird flavor wise that he'd be a big support for artifact strategies consider big shark. But he's going to be pumping out a bunch of tokens for anything that wants them and he's in red so there's a lot of artifact synergy there.

>>96715749
>Please don't make me want the TMNT set
It's easy to not want a UB set if your hatred of UB is based on principle and not distaste for an IP

>>96715742
>Amass Soldiers
Wait, this would actually be cool. Amass is a fun mechanic and if it means we'd get more Grixis amass support but with an additional creature type for it I'd be all for that. This would make me at least moderately interested in the set if it was a thing.

>>96715759
I dont go to chain stores anon, so why would I mention them?
>besides thing that isnt true!
Don't believe so sorry. Go back to tiktok where you are conveniently surrounded by people who consume the same media lol

MTG newfag here. Been playing standard and a little commander
Any advice for a Sliver commander deck? Really like the slivers I've seen so far and I'm pretty sold on getting Overlord as my commander. Any advice for slivers or deck building in general?

>>96715582
>a fucking shark
>aritfact synergy
>it's red
someone deserves a swirly for this decision

>>96715778
My hatred of UB is based on the ugly card frame(fixed) and the terrible choice in IPs
They could reprint LTR with the normal frame and it would be worth my money more than any UW set released in the past ten years
There is nothing sacred or valuable to me about Magic's setting and I'm not going to start pretending to like the Jacetice League because of UB, it was dogshit when it released and it remains dogshit to this day

>>96715656
I love these post, one anon catterwalling about how he doesn't like the game, hidden under the guise of custom cards he feels need to exist. You know they'll never print anything like these right, little buddy?

>>96715796
>My hatred of UB is based on the ugly card frame(fixed) and the terrible choice in IPs
Then you don't hate UB, you're a pig-to-be

>>96715790
slivers are the single most on-rails tribe in the entire game

>>96715656
Damn anon, I think you just need to get good and find a dedicated playgroup that agrees to no UB. This post is just sad.

>>96715796
>more than any UW set released in the past ten years
Nigga UW =/= in-universe
UW is porting UB to be legally distinct versions.
If you don't even know basic fucking terminology, get out of the conversation

>>96715810
I like that about them I like that they all buff each other

>>96715796
Oink oink

>>96715783
Then you should have said "I don't go to those places so I can't refute you" instead of being a passive-aggressive prick. Guess being old doesn't mean learning respect for you.

>>96715805
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer

>>96715817
Nigger please you know damn well what it means, are you crying about people calling Magic: The Gathering: Commander(tm) "edh" too?

>>96714244
No

>>96715829
>A Magic set had a fat person in it so literally all in-universe sets are worthless now

>>96715828
Or i could relay my experience with another avenue of the "nerdosphere" or does this sphere only exist at chain stores and not more niche targeted nerd stores? Cause if it only exists in the former its not as big in the nerd world as you want it to be.
>zoomie whinging
Sharing my relevant experience is not passive aggressive just cause it doesn't support yours. Honestly who taught you how to engage with people this is sad.

>>96715839
So true xister we need to keep those icky toxic IPs like 40k away from our inclusive bipoc space

>>96715790
At the expense of sounding rude
>>96715810 is 100% correct. It's full blown idort mode.

Search your favorite deckbuilder or card search site for the keyword "Sliver" and choose you favorite keywords. The rest is just any goofy changelings you need and the minimum number of goodstuff staples and lands to get the Slivers Slivering.

Maybe look at broad protection enchantments and artifacts as well as some efficient counters; people know slivers are about snowballing so you should expect to have all your shit targeted: the only good sliver is an exiled sliver.

>>96715829
>I've seen what makes you cheer
>pic
Oh you're that retard who keeps trying the "at least UB isn't heckin woke!" argument?
Obligatory pic related.

>>96715849
Good advice anon, the other anon is right too for sure I just sorta expected it.

I want to do also wanna do a samurai themed deck but I am not really sure what playstyle fits that for a deck? I'm not entirely sure what sort of Samurai cards would be a good sort of foundation for a Commander deck

>>96715842
>it's not big in this small fraction so it ain't big at all
I go back again and tell you probably passed by it and you didn't realize and didn't know. And yes, when someone is acting in bad faith it is a form of passive-aggressiveness now it's my turn to ask about who educated it on socializing. I can't imagine the type of troglodytes who hang out with you if that's how you act.

>>96715829
>Nigger please you know damn well what it means
Yes, I do. You did not when you misused it.
Universes Beyond means a set based on an IP WotC does not own.
Universes Within means reprints of cards from Universes Beyond with different names and art that are legally distinct from the IP WotC does not own
In-universe means a set that, no matter how derivative, is an original setting with original characters.

>>96715869
>inb4 he doesn't have any friends because he's an antisocial git.

>>96715845
>we need to keep those icky toxic IPs like 40k away from our inclusive bipoc space

>>96715869
>didnt realize it
Stop repeating this its entirely irrelevant lmao.
>bad faith
Never happened... I relayed my experience with the "nerdosphere". It doesnt have to be the same store.. this isnt confusing.
>no u
You can ask that but it wouldn't make sense, which is something zoomies very commonly do they dont understand words have meanings and you cant just flip them baselessly. I have been engaging in earnest the entire time, sharing how my experience differs from this one you are sharing and where my experience is from.... this is incredibly standard conversation. Youre whining because someone's mind hasn't had the same experience as yours. With all due respect a diagnosis would vastly improve your life.

>>96713187 (OP)
>We Don't Talk About Slop For 1 Whole Thread Edition
commander is slop. what are you on about, retard

These threads are somehow becoming more retarded each passing day

>>96715566
Its way worse than path

> but it hits le everything!!
3 cmc bro and it didn't even exile
Unplayable

>guy says "I need to wipe the floor" instead of "I need to wipe the board"
>i say "wipe the floor? yeah, clean it up janny" and laugh
>everyone just stops and just stares at me
now everyone knows im a chud incel 4channer forever, its so over

>>96715896
keep your autism in check next time anon

>>96715896
During draft when I was getting stomped, I was discussing aloud whether I could realistically pull it back from that board state and said "It's never been so Joever" as a joke, and my opponent didn't laugh
Think I got away with it though

>>96715888
It is relevant, that's why you don't want me to say it. See? Another act in bad faith. Also, yes, you are rude and manipulative far from being earnest so stop acting like you are some cool uncle giving advice to the youngsters when you clearly aren't.

>>96715896
He does it for free

>>96715866
Isshin is a good generalist Samurai commander, but if you're too much of a hipster for him (fair, he's extremely overplayed) then Raiyuu and Chishiro are also cool.
Generally tribal decks tend to be inconsistent and kind of boring to build because most tribes are either A) undersupported so you wind up running a lot of do-nothing draft chaff or B) so overloaded you can just slough them all into a pile with no identity or consistency (dragons are particularly bad about this). Samurai are the former, a large number of them come from the underpowered Kamigawa block and their most defining shared trait is the Bushido keyword which isn't very strong or interactive either. However, a lot of the newer ones have good abilities that work well with combat-focused decks, so you might want to build around that instead of just putting as many Samurai as possible in there.
Slivers are also pretty "boring" in that regard but it's their gimmick, imo they're cool BECAUSE the tribal synergy is their entire identity.

>>96715917
No it's irrelevant because its entirely impossible to prove or disprove and therefore has no bearing on the discussion further than padding your ego.
>rude and manipulative
Lmao how this is getting sad. I am genuinely concerned with your well being. Get a diagnosis and find life easier to deal with.

>>96715937
Sorry to sound like a turbo new fag but what do you mean by combat focused? Like the deck orients around your cards fighting as the win condition instead of spells?

I also agree that slivers are cool but maybe I'm just nostalgic to losing from my friends sliver deck as a kid

>>96715778
>it was fine when they were filing the serial numbers off of settings and making dogshit theme planes, using IP someone might give a shit about is a bridge too far for me
Rolling my eyes pretty hard at this desu. And don't pretend hat sets are new, thats so disingenuous its unreal. Innistrad was the OG hat set and didnt have actual writing until they went back the second time

>>96715896
Kekkkkkkk

>>96715964
>>it was fine when they were filing the serial numbers off of settings and making dogshit theme planes, using IP someone might give a shit about is a bridge too far for me
Uh... yeah?
I got into Magic for Magic. The game can have shitty sets just like a TV show can have shitty episodes. But you know what I don't want? The TV show I wanted to watch airing episodes of some other show. I don't want them to air episodes from shows I don't like, and I don't even want them to air episodes from shows I DO like.
If you like other TV shows, go fucking watch them instead of forcing them into the show I liked.

>>96715944
The same can be said for you fawning how your niche store "never" had any of it. Yes, I am sad, sad how people this manipulative walk around us everyday acting like they are high and mighty.

>>96715801
It's literally just cringe bullshit I have been making for years

>>96715981
are you the guy that called someone an insect for saying they don't care about UB and only care if the cards have good effects? He dropped the same image and used a TV show analogy as well

>>96715992
Kek I acutally fucking laughed out loud at that pic, the flavor text got me, fuck you

>>96715999
Bro its literally one anti ub poster in the thread yes and he's not very creative

>>96716009
>Bro its literally one anti ub poster i
Hoo boy you fucking wish

>>96715962
Yeah. Some Samurai encourage what's known as "Voltron" where you focus on slapping a bunch of big buffs to your commander and then winning with Commander damage, and more generally they tend to have synergies with Equipment (all artifacts) and attacking alone or with small numbers of creatures - so you have one big guy you turn sideways to rip someone's arms off and then support pieces to protect him and guard your own board if he's tapped.
https://youtu.be/zx4CDcZkaSE
This video might help you with learning how to look into cards and see how they play together. Honestly call me a shill but I like this channel as a whole, he has some good beginner advice.
Learn to use Scryfall as soon as possible, it probably seems intimidating but it's one of the best resources you could ever want and most of the syntax is pretty straightforward until you get into regex shit. There are a lot of cards and once you understand what you want to look for you'll be able to plan decks much more easily.

>>96716009
>literally one anti ub poster
I wouldn't go that far but yes we do have a pet aspie here

>>96716009
I wouldn't say there's only one but his posting style is vary obvious

>>96716009
>Bro its literally one anti ub poster
lmao no he is just the loudest one

>>96716033
Bless you polite and wise anon thank you for the advice

I really like having an infinite hand in a control deck and I feel like it's easier to bluff having counterspells and removal when I'm holding a bunch of cards but am I using it like a security blanket?

>>96715981
>The game can have shitty sets just like a TV show can have shitty episodes.
It's been shitty sets from Innistrad all the way up to Bloomburrow, and Bloomburrow was only good because they pivoted as far away from the current plot as possible

I'm extremely busy today so I can't chat
I just wanted to pop in to say fuck UB

>>96716136
Thanks, PDS
Busy doing what though? Jacking off to anime?

>>96714209
I don't care about the worst I just love my slop token

>>96716136
Praise you, king

>>96715213
>Bant Sureblade
I think it's time to keep this shit to yourself because the bullying is not going to stop. I don't think you're ready to build a good 5 color, stick with 3 colors or less. This is a bracket 2

>>96716131
>Bloomburrow was only good because they pivoted as far away from the current plot as possible
I could not care less about the "plot", I care about whether the planes are evocative. Bloomburrow was a rip off of Redwall but the calamity beasts were cool and the animals having their own little archetypes just to survive such a dangerous plane was neat.
Even Duskmourn would actually have been very exciting if it wasn't for all the 80s nostalgia retardation. I liked the lore behind Marina Vendrell, I liked the idea of a plane being taken over by a haunted house, I liked all the enchantment support, glimmers are one of my favorite creature types now and I'm mad that there are online-only glimmers we don't get in paper.

The set I'm most looking forward to next year is Lorwyn. Am I hoping that The Jacetice League is gonna go there and have le epic adbenture? Fuck no. I want to look at card that tell a story in themselves. I like looking at Emptiness and knowing that in this strange world emotions personified stride the land doing who knows what.
That's what got me into Magic, thats why UB will always push me out of Magic. I have never bought even a single UB card and never fucking will because even if I LIKE the IP they bring in, I liked Magic and the other IP is interfering with what I enjoyed about Magic

>>96716215
>I could not care less about the "plot", I care about whether the planes are evocative.
Did any of them do that for you between 2010 and 2024?

>>96716162
I wish more tokens had flavor text. The clues from that one Innistrad sets were cool.

>>96716322
Every card should have flavour text

>>96716328
I agree. It's one of the things I liked about this game when I started it. That even the creatures with effects could have flavor text.

>>96716009
Nah. The insect dude is just very vocal and thinks he has some unique insight.

>>96716304
>Did any of them do that for you between 2010 and 2024?
Yes, plenty.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy Magic and wish TMNT or FF had a card game as good, but that will never, ever, ever be a justification for you to replace the Magic that other people enjoy with the things you personally enjoy.

>>96716331
The D&D basics having flavor text was pretty cool

>>96715663
He'll go perfect in my Strefan deck.

>>96716215
>BLB was a ripoff of redwall
Not really! A couple references. More references to secret of Nimh though. I fear you just dont actually engage with fiction so you have a very shallow pool to draw from.

>>96716352
>Yes, plenty.
Such as? I'm just trying to see what you actually like, because all you post about is what you don't. And don't hold back because I'm not gonna say you have shit taste in response to what you say. I already think you have shit taste for playing post-Zendikar MTG

>>96716393
>I fear you just dont actually engage with fiction so you have a very shallow pool to draw from.
Kek fuck off.
You know there's no better way to announce you don't actually have an argument than to declare that you're knowledgeable than the person you're talking to with no evidence whatsoever.

>I think Strixhaven is a rip off of Harry Potter
>ummmmm akshually sweaty, my opinions are facts so I KNOW it's a rip off of Worst Witch by Ursula K. Le Guin, you'd know that if you were knowledgeable about fantasy like ME!

>>96716417
It's just really clear you haven't engaged with much media outside of MTG

>>96716417
Okay name 10 books youve read that are similar to bloomburrow that arent redwall anon :) given how fast the first reply was ill give you 5 minutes.

how bad manners is a timetwister proxy

Do anons actually like anything in UW or are these threads only for talking about how much you hate UB?

>>96716424
That isn't clear because it isn't true. It's something you tell yourself so you can feel superior because you have accomplished very little in your life and telling yourself that you're more knowledgeable than complete strangers is about the only time you can convince yourself that you're not a failure.

If you say this isn't true, I'll say it's just really clear.

>>96716447
>Do anons actually like anything in UW
>>96715876

>>96716447
Its just the one sperg who talks about how much they hate UB. Some UW stuff is cool, like any of the planes where mana colors got restricted for whatever reason are neat. But most of the discussion is about the mechanics, which is why many players are UB-agnostic in the first place

>>96716453
No, it's actually that easy to tell. What's the last book you even read, The Great Gatsby? And only that because your 9th grade teacher made you.

>>96715876
>>96716462
can you go be a semantic faggot elsewhere

>>96713273
Oh, this looks cute. How to feed the kitty well?

>>96716481
I can tell you really love fantasy because you're even making up your own fiction ITT!

>>96716490
Woah, cool it with the anti-semanticism

>>96716538
Caught in 4K I see
>>96716535
Feldon's pretty good for it, Adeline is great for it. Myriad is good for it too.

>>96716412
Okie dokie then
>Innistrad
Not my favorite but it hits that same tone Warhammer Fantasy did with this very ahistorical take on historical Europe where everyone is holed up in big walled cities with Tudor wood-beam houses, cowering from creatures of the night.
>Theros
Loved Greek mythology as a kid, love enchantments in Magic.
>Ravnica
The OG. The premise of the city is quite silly but it's utilized well enough. The guilds were a great idea and really fill that urge to categorize everything that comes along with so much fantasy. People love that shit, houses in ASoIaF and Harry Potter, that type of shit. Being able to tether yourself to a group identity in fantasy is just an easy win
>Dominaria
Mostly standard fantasy fare, although I don't like how much it is tied to planeswalkers and "the plot", the cards printed for Dominaria sets very nicely feel like generic fantasy. As if any time you just want to print some generic fantasy concept, say its from Dominaria and no one will blink twice.
>Kaldheim
Didn't love it, but plenty of the cards were evocative. I think it's pretty clear already that I'm into mythology. I think the shapeshifter shit in there was neat, and some of the gods
>Eldraine
Fucking love Eldraine. My favorite plane by far. Throne leaned a little too much on actual fairy tales for my liking, but Wilds came into its own in having a fairy tale world. In fact, its funny that I hate FF UB but one of my favorite games when I was little was Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales precisely because it had that paper picture book fairy tale aesthetic
>Duskmourn
Hate the 80s shit, love the lore of Marina Vendrell and the enchantment creatures. Definitely evocative, I just have to pretend there weren't fucking cheerleaders and Sony Walkmans
>Bloomburrow
Cute animals, surprisingly rich world. I wish a calamity beasts tribal deck was viable. In some ways they remind me of the Earthbound Immortals in Yugioh 5Ds

Aaaand that's about it to date

>>96716443
No books what a shock.

>>96716600
I think you just might not like MTG anon

>>96716443
>>96716643
NTA but why do you think anyone would engage with you trying to make them jump through hoops for a purity test you just invented? And why do you think it will prove anything when anyone could just got to chatGPT and ask “name me 10 fantasy books about animals similar to the Redwall series”?

>Cyclonic Whiff
Commander Mania: You may select which color identity this card has, it can't be blue.
1 pip
Split second
Choose a spell or ability. Then choose one.
Replace each instance of 'all' and 'each' in that spell with 'target'.
Replace each instance of 'opponent' with 'you' and 'you don't control' with 'you control'

>>96716651
>I like original Magic sets that are evocative
>"have you actually found any Magic sets between 2010-2024 evocative?"
>yeah
>"name them then"
>okay, here's 8 planes I found evocative
>"I-I j-j-just don't think you like Magic anon!!!!"
Discourse in these threads is completely dead.

>>96716653
>NTA lemme just go to bat for a random person
Same person or also doesnt actually engage with fiction while bitching about it?

>>96716674
It is when you give (You)s to retards blatantly trying to get a rise, anon

>>96716674
Not liking Zendikar or planeswalkers is pretty compelling evidence that you don't particularly like engaging with the setting, just picking little bits of fluff out that you do like.

All I want is a storyline where antagonist turns antihero. Like, a necromantic hedonist from the Grixis, let's call her Seressa, the Crimson Dirge, properly goth and edgy, decides the Multiverse has grown boring and she launches a one-woman crusade to make it interesting again.

She storms Tarkir to fuck up Ugin, fries Jace’s brain on Ravnica just to watch him blush as he questions his thirst for goth baddies, and finally frees Nicol Bolas only to tell him he’s utter disappointment and she expected better of him than to get trapped and be rescued by random nobody who did it for the lulz. Then, as Bolas faces the heroes who realized what is going on, she she invades Eldraine to rewrite every fairy tale into a gothic tragedy, because book of good endings is terribly boring.

But when she is faced by the heroes who want to make her pay for her crimes against multivers the real buzzkill - the Eldrazi - threatens to snuff out all flavor on Innistrad, which is Seressa beloved home. She hijacks the Gatewatch’s last stand, fuses her art with Emrakul’s madness, and reshapes horror itself into performance, while mocking the Gatewatch impotence.
Give me Grixis style cosmic opera, part dark comedy, part eroero goth horror, a tale where chaos wears lipstick, dragons get therapy, and the villainess saves reality just to keep the show going.

>>96716700
I was reading the thread and found your post to be stupid so I commented on it.
People jump in on my conversations all the fucking time and then get pissy when I assume they must agree with the things someone else said since they're siding with them. Not sure why you think this is an unlikely occurrence

>doesnt actually engage with fiction
I'm gonna prove my point. Hey, chatGPT...
>Watership Down
>The Wind in the Willows
>The Tale of Peter Rabbit
>The Mistmantle Chronicles
>The Deptford Mice Trilogy
>The Green Ember
>The Guardians of Ga’Hoole
>The Wildwood Chronicles
>The Animals of Farthing Wood
>Bravelands
>The Legend of Podkin One-Ear
Am I well read in your judgment m'lord? Have I earned by right of conquest the authority to take over this conversation from you?

>>96716758
>im going to prove i read books by asking chatgpt to name books for me
Incredibly self defeating "point" lmao.

>>96716700
>>NTA lemme just go to bat for a random person
I do this a lot. It's part of having a discussion

I feel like my OC would fit pretty well into the magic universe, maybe even be the best. Typhon, Lord of Super Hatred, his powers come from the tourmaline bargain, a WUBRG based wish spell that feeds on each colors hatred of each other, and runs a bureaucratic world divided into nephilim color pies- defined by each colors dislike of the missing color, and they routinely abduct other planes' people to under the guise of bringing them to a better, civilized world, all while instilling them with hate to feed the wish spell, the leaders of each pie hate each other but their constant rivalry and undermining consolidates power to typhon and his tragedy elemental. also typhon offscreens the entire current magic cast and fast forwarded time, burns down bloomburrow to be hated, but also destroyed edge of eternities plane by collecting mirari and the endstone, giving him the balls of fury

This has to be one of the worst threads of all time it's just two retards fighting or at least one retard getting baited constantly

>>96716726
>Not liking Zendikar
Don't think I said that. I just didn't list it among planes I found evocative.
Very strange fact for you to invent.
>or planeswalkers
Yeah, I said I'm not big on the "plot" of Magic. It was silly for there ever to have been a "plot" and the entire reason planeswalkers exist was so they could have characters that act as a throughline across planes.
The setting never needed it, it was a crutch, they exist purely because there was a fear that without traditional story telling, players would be less engaged with the setting.
We were already meant to be the planeswalkers. We were walking between the planes, that's the only justification that was ever needed for all the different planes to exist. Nothing was added by making named characters planeswalkers.

And I think this is born out in the trajectory WotC went on. Planeswalkers were desparked, half of all sets are just random fucking IPs as "UB". No one ever felt that attached to planeswalkers and I'm not sure why you're treating them like some make-or-break aspect of enjoying Magic.

>>96716777
>>im going to prove i read books by asking chatgpt to name books for me
>Incredibly self defeating "point" lmao.
I didn't have to tell you I asked chatGPT, my point was that the reason no one engaged with your retarded purity test was because nothing would be proved by engaging with it. I asked a robot to jump through the hoop you created, and it did.

>>96716800
Planeswalkers aren't even the interesting part of Zendikar, the interesting part is elves vs cthulu

>>96716813
>didnt have to
But you did? And therefore the point is null, you dont read books, and when attempted to name some you do you had to get chatgpt to do it for you. Im not sure what on earth you thought you were proving besides the fact that
1. You have a dishonest disposition (asking chatgpt would've never even occurred to me)
2. You dont engage with fiction.

>>96716830
>You have a dishonest disposition
By telling you the truth, that your hoop was stupid and had anyone wanted to they could have fooled you?
>asking chatgpt would've never even occurred to me
Yeah I'm getting the sense you're not very smart
>You dont engage with fiction.
I engage plenty, but as I've just proved, listing off a bunch of fiction doesn't prove that someone does engage with fiction, which is why your hoop was stupid

>>96716800
Finding a bunch of knockoff hat sets more compelling than zendikar (or dominaria for that matter) does indeed suggest that you don't particularly like MTG as a setting, yeah. Which makes it weird that you fancy yourself the arbiter of what is and is not Magic

>>96716846
>by telling the truth
No? Can you read. By even thinking about cheating the question in the first place. Being honest about cheating still makes you a cheater, and a dishonest person.
>as i proved
All you proved is
1. You have a dishonest disposition
2. You dont engage with media
3. You cant even read 4chan posts, I asked for books similar to Bloomburrow not redwall.

Very sad day for dishonest retards.

>>96716850
I listed Dominaria and Ravinica among sets I do find evocative though. Really not sure why you feel the need to just make up shit.

Are you some sort of streange Zendikar fanboy who has genuinely gotten mad I just didn't say I found it evocative?

>>96716867
No, I just think you're kind of a hypocrite

>>96716858
>Can you read.
Nope, not a word. I'm having this thread read to me, and dictating my replies.
>By even thinking about cheating the question in the first place. Being honest about cheating still makes you a cheater, and a dishonest person.
You set a task. That task was incredibly easy to complete without proving what you hoped it would prove or disprove. This has been pointed out to you. You understand how stupid you look. You are now looking for some other way to "win", and you have settled on declaring yourself to be morally superior as an "honest" person.

edh?

>>96716883
>random whinging cause he revealed himself to be a dishonest bad person
Uhhhh okay. I asked a question, it wasnt answered, and that was the end of it. You felt personally offended by the question (for obvious reasons) and are now sperging. Its okay anon, you arent forced to engage with media and it doesnt make you a better or worse person.

Reminder: I asked for books similar to bloomburrow and you asked chatgpt about redwall. You literally have pisspoor reading comprehension and an incredibly fragile ego and thats why youre persisting in a discussion, where the only purpose, is to prove youre dishonest.

>>96716736
>mary sue power fantasy story
femanon?

>>96716874
In what way? Because sets based on myth and fairy tale aren't 110% autist-certified original?
Then nothing is? Everything ever printed in Magic has been based on folklore and mythology and previous works of fiction.
The difference between that and UB is that some effort had to go into building a setting from the ground up, making choices about what aspects of inherited fiction they liked, what they wanted to spotlight, what they didn't want to include. It's transformative. That's what all "original" fiction does.

UB is not that. It is a very soulless transaction in which WotC collaborates with other companies to just print their characters and their worlds on cardboard and call it "Magic". I have never wanted that. That's not why I got into Magic. If you want that, you could be engaging with the existing media for the IP you like instead of importing it 1 to 1 into Magic at the expense of what little originality (in your view) Magic has

>>96716908
Troon more likely
Women don't into power fantasy, they into social power fantasy. The heroine never finds out she's super strong and capable, she finds out that she's IMPORTANT. A princess, born of the gods, a super genius, the Avatar etc etc etc

Ok i thought I fumbled and that chulane is absolute ass in today's powercreep meta but then i traded for shrieking drake and got to tutor it with stalight shephard on warp and it went all like the horror stories of him say it does, even without infinite combos

If a put this is a Sliver deck, others Slivers I cast will come with the “+1/+1 on chosen creature type counter” thing? And is this effect stackable?

>>96716447
It's one autist having a genuine melty and 2-3 hanger ons goading him by pretentious they hate UB to in order to trigger the lolcow. Truth is, 90% of the playerbase just doesn't care one way or the other, and the 10% who do don't care that much.

>>96716965
>Truth is, 90% of the playerbase just doesn't care one way or the other, and the 10% who do don't care that much.
This does not accurately reflect reality. Check the comments section on any media about UB

>>96716959
Yes and yes

>>96716911
You're a hypocrite because you don't want to engage with MTG as a setting, you're just attracted to the aesthetic of mythology and fable. Which is exactly what you claim UB lovers of doing.

>>96716979
Ok, that’s interesting. Ty for clarifying.

>>96716976
And those comment sections don't reflect reality because the kind of person who seeks out UB IS KILLIN DA GAEM videos are going to the people who have a negative viewpoint of it and are impassioned enough to comment on it. The internet isn't real life or a reflection of it sperg.

>>96716965
The guy is pretty funny when he gets riled up but I wish he'd get a job or something instead of hanging out here

>>96717005
You me and his parents all feel the same way bro.

>>96716965
It's one guy with a humiliation fetish

>>96716981
>You're a hypocrite because you don't want to engage with MTG as a setting,
I love planes of Magic. I am just not interested in characters being inserted into it in a clumsy attempt for them to justify their own setting, players were already the planeswalkers
>you're just attracted to the aesthetic of mythology and fable
>person into fantasy enjoys fantasy
And??? Again, you're ignoring the fact I liked Dominaria and Ravinica which are quote unquote "original" Magic ideas. Don't know why you're hyperfocusing on this- well, actually I do, it's because you want to pick a fight and I'm not saying the things you wish I was
>Which is exactly what you claim UB lovers of doing.
Nope, not in the slightest. Think I was pretty clear about this here:
>>96716911
>The difference between that and UB is that some effort had to go into building a setting from the ground up, making choices about what aspects of inherited fiction they liked, what they wanted to spotlight, what they didn't want to include. It's transformative. That's what all "original" fiction does.
>UB is not that. It is a very soulless transaction in which WotC collaborates with other companies to just print their characters and their worlds on cardboard and call it "Magic". I have never wanted that. That's not why I got into Magic. If you want that, you could be engaging with the existing media for the IP you like instead of importing it 1 to 1 into Magic at the expense of what little originality (in your view) Magic has

>>96717034
You know, you stopped saying this for the longest time because you were called on the fact that its a meaningless accusation that can never be disproven, and you sling it knowing that in an attempt to shame people who disagree with you into silence

Very sorry to hear that you think it's been long enough to bring it back

>>96717040
>I love planes of Magic. I am just not interested in characters being inserted into it
This is like you saying you love the fable of the tortoise and the hare for the worldbuilding of the race but neither the tortoise or the hare

>>96717040
>quote unquote "original"
fyi you dont have to write "quote unquote" if you put the described noun in quotes

>>96716994
>And those comment sections don't reflect reality because the kind of person who seeks out UB IS KILLIN DA GAEM videos
But they're not all videos like that
You can watch clips of """influencers" literally just annoucing cards for upcoming UB sets and the top comments will be mixed at best.
UB is extremely divisive and your 90% of players don't care estimate has been pulled straight out your ass because YOU don't care and not having a theory of mind you assume that most people have the same opinions as you

>>96717062
It's not like that at all, very weird analogy
>>96717064
Comments like yours are a diamond dozen, anon

>>96717079
How am I supposed to take "I love the setting but I'm not interested in characters being inserts into it to justify the setting" other than "I love the setting but I don't like any of the characters"

Why does EDHG has such a hatred for bracket 2 games?

>>96717085
Are you fucking retarded? The key part of the sentence there is
>characters being insert[ed] into it to justify the setting

I never said I didn't like Magic having characters. I even explicitly fucking mentioned liking the lore of Marina Vendrell in Duskmourn.
I just don't think planewalkers as characters needed to be added into Magic. I don't think Magic needs some throughline plot told from the perspective of these characters. It was a panic move from a team of people who worried that without traditional story-telling that players wouldn't engage with the setting of the game. You know they ultimately thing that this failed anyway since they desparked the planeswalkers and then just gave up on any consistency by dedicating half of all sets to UB where there isn't even any fucking story or returning characters.

It goes like this
>"in this game YOU are a powerful magic user, travelling between dimensions, calling on techniques and heroes you encounter there!"
>oh, neato
>"um but uh uh uh ummmmm please don't hate us if we go to a plane that doesn't resonate with you- um oh fuck, shit- look! Look look look! We have characters for you to attach yourself to! Isn't Jace cool? Don't you love Jace? What's he up to on this plane, huh? No...? Uh how bout Loot? Isn't he cute? You want to follow Loot from plane to plane right?"
>cringe
It's unnecessary. It shows a lack of confidence in their world building. Planeswalkers exist purely because they were scared that hopping from plane to plane would put players off if they didn't have recurring characters to anchor to

>>96717142
Sir, do you not know that the original two major plots of this world were "going to different planes with our characters"??? Urza and the Weatherlight. I love self-contained planes too and wish they would bring that back, such as Mirrodin, but that ship's sailed.

>>96717140
>why [retaded, unfalsifiable premise], anons?! HUH?!!?!
Probably because your mum spent your childhood sucking cocks instead of reading to you

>>96717159
I'm just rejecting the bizarre notion that you have to like Planeswalkers to like Magic as a setting

>>96716736
This is the shittest, faggiest, most deviant-art level oc I've read in a while. Never thought I'd read something that made wotc look like great story tellers today.

>>96717205
"There are planes and some special people can traverse between them" was MTG's core concept until March of the Machines and Aftermath opened up the Omenpaths. Every single plane until Kamigawa was focused on the behavior of planeswalkers and the repercussions for that behavior. Even after that, most sets revolved around the same thing.

>>96717252
And fucking what?
>every single episode of Breaking Bad mentioned meth, it was the focus of the show and its repercussions, every season revolved around meth
Okay???? I don't have to fucking like meth to enjoy Breaking Bad. Your argument is so retarded

>>96717268
but you do have to like jesse pinkman and walter white, or at least be invested in them as characters, which amounts to the same thing. but you don't like planeswalkers, who are the heisenberg and cap'n cook of MTG

>>96717276
No. Wrong. See, that's the benefit of A FUCKING MULTIVERSE
We can go to new places and meet new characters and I can decide whether I like them or not.

I mean for Christ sake, you are in a Commander thread. You play Commander. You have literally chosen characters from various planes that resonated with you either for who they are or what their cards do. If you were right and liking planeswalkers and what they get up to was a fucking prerequisite for liking the setting of Magic, then you'd be obliged to run the fucking planeswalkers that are playable as commanders

>>96717315
then how come you can't get over UB, you faggot? just live and let live, as you request of others

Used this guy to steal the entire table's commanders the other day, especially funny since the sliver guy's commander had the ability to steal other slivers so he really couldn't do anything until I was eventually hated out by the entire table.
10/10 experience would lose first with again.

>took 18 years to return to lorwyn
>took 10 years to return to tarkir
>took 6 months to go back to New York, and will probably go back to New York 3 months after that
I'm so tired of ub, why couldn't they have at least kept ub on theme

>>96717372
>then how come you can't get over UB, you faggot?
Explained to you twice over now:
>>96716911
>The difference between that and UB is that some effort had to go into building a setting from the ground up, making choices about what aspects of inherited fiction they liked, what they wanted to spotlight, what they didn't want to include. It's transformative. That's what all "original" fiction does.
>UB is not that. It is a very soulless transaction in which WotC collaborates with other companies to just print their characters and their worlds on cardboard and call it "Magic". I have never wanted that. That's not why I got into Magic. If you want that, you could be engaging with the existing media for the IP you like instead of importing it 1 to 1 into Magic at the expense of what little originality (in your view) Magic has

>>96717387
its a degree of difference, not of kind. you just want people to bend over backwards for your foibles but do not want to bend for theirs. and frankly you shouldn't be indulged.

>>96717385
With all the immigration and miscegenation, new york city is a more disturbing plane than phyrexia at this point.
Not a bad fit for the game.

>>96717387
When did you get into magic

>>96716925
True, the modern woman mostly only reads about milking minotaur cocks (a bestselling book btw) and getting raped by mythological creatures with weirdly shaped cocks.

>>96717385
>why couldn't they have at least kept ub on theme
Yeah, the uh... magic... aesthetic...
At least we're getting Star Trek soon? That fits the mtg aesthetic now.

>>96717402
Kek, if wotc gives us a tunneling jew card oll rescind all criticism of ub

>>96716925
>Women don't into power fantasy, they into social power fantasy
To be fair the power fantasy that leads into a social power fantasy is an easy enough plot thread.

>>96717424
This one I can confirm.

>>96714002
Deadly Rollick and Flare of Malice barely have restrictions.

>>96714389
That's why I have a Lord of Tresserhorn deck where the only objective is to swing his fat 10/4 statline into someone's face with unblockable/double strike/infect and immediately speed the game up by killing the blue player.

>>96714454
Run more basics and just run mana fixers like chromatic lantern and the like. You really don't want over half your lands to come in tapped.

>>96717398
>its a degree of difference, not of kind.
It's not though, is it?
>you just want people to bend over backwards
By continuing to do what they were doing for 25 years instead of selling out and ruining the appeal of the game?
>>96717407
August 4th 1993

>>96717429
>setting obviously designed to test player reactions to future ub setting

>>96717402
Kek

>>96715213
Why are you running stuff like Wayfarer's Bauble when you can run basically anything else that is green or white ramp instead?

Cut some of the bad creatures and add ramp spells instead.

>>96717466
You would have said the same thing if I posted Aetherdrift, Duskmourn, or Bloomburrow.

>>96717487
What UB were those sets preparing for?

>>96717498
Good point. I guess Aetherdrift really is iconic of mtg's aesthetic.

>>96717498
Aetherdrift = Death Race
Duskmourn = Itself (literally a ton of stolen horror stuff)
Bloomburrow = Furby

>>96717519
>Magic is being ruined, therefore we should ruin it with more UB!!!!
>>96717520
>Bloomburrow = Furby
Lol

>>96717520
>reaching this hard

TMNT better have mutate

>>96717552
gonna be caled mutagen and be boring counters instead

Where's the fucking Witcher UB?
It fits the CLASSIC mtg aesthetic perfectly, it's vaguely relevant for marketing and very woke with the new tv show.

>>96717140
Probably because you posted a deck you thought was a bracket 4, we all called it a bracket 2 and now you're butthurt about it. Are you the Jared Cathalion guy?

Post your favorite commander instead of bitching at each other for once

>>96717140
Because bracket 2 doesn't exist. Nobody makes unoptimized decks; it's basically impossible because of how much support everything has.
Unless you're a new player building monoblue out of your bulk bin with whatever 60 blue cards and 20 colorless artifacts you have in it, you're not building something on par with an unfocused precon.

>>96717583
100% cannot get enough of this fucker, makes any addition/cut to the deck so difficult because he works with so many things.

>>96717594
I'm an old player building out of a bulk bin

>>96717045
I stopped because he left
I continued because its extremely obvious

>>96717594
what if I just do bulk bin builds and played for years?

>>96717583
Funnest deck I've ever built and easy to retool into different play styles

>>96717618
i remember thinking on reveal that he's kinda eh but then getting hit with reality check of how much faster the game is on top of all the shit you can pull off with him made me reconsider

>>96717633
And you've probably got 100 green cards that care about counters and tokens when you build a counters and tokens deck, plus redundant copies of the most versatile and most reprinted cards across Magic's history.
You probably aren't putting loaming shaman into a dragon aggro deck. Precons are.

>>96717652
I build energy + tickets Jenova

Every deck is a 3.
No, your deck isn't a 2 unless it's an unmodified precon.
No, your deck isn't a 4. You took game changers out of it to drop it down into 3.
No one plays bracket 1.
Bracket 5 exists but no one "has" a cedh deck, you pick a deck out of the meta list like a character in a fighting game. It's not yours and it's probably proxied anyways. Not that there's anything wrong with proxying of course, but the point is that it's not a deck you built in the same way you'd build a normal deck.

>been to 5 lgs in 3 states over the last month
>only 2 had substantial single inventory
>none of tge stores had cheap bulk for sale
Yo wtf is going on?

>>96717730
I don’t know. I moved to a new area, new LGS has 50-60 players on a Friday night, their singles stock is unsorted bulk uncommons and a rares binder with about 30 cards in it

>>96717785
Fair honestly. Who can be bothered to add so many sets and maintain inventory if shit is just getting rapid fired onto the market.

>>96717701
No I'm pretty sure some of mine are fours. Taking the game-changers out isn't going to help I wasn't running three of them to begin with.

Are we forgetting Brackets are intentional again? It doesn't 'end up' a 3 or a 4: you're trying to make it fit there by deck-building decisions.

>>96717830
90% of people would rather take a field of the dead out of a bracket 4 deck and call it a bracket 3.
Nobody intends to make a bracket 2 deck and the ones that do are just making bracket 3 decks.

>>96717879
That means they're both targeting a 3 and if their deck isn't fitting there they need to make changes in the power until it does. If it isn't playing about on par and targeting about the same turn length, they either need to fix it or stop lying to themselves and others about it.

While I'm happy to have it try its luck against 4s, I'm starting to think my Voltron deck is probably better off targeting a 3. I need to play it more against more decks to know for sure.

every deck should have some amount of lifegain. not enough that you become "you have the most health so im attacking you" lightning rod, but enough that you can sometimes push your turn-clock back a cycle.

>>96718170
you should, just so you aren't extra vulnerable to burn and rushdown tactical

>>96717648
I highly recommend him. I'm considering cutting either my discard subtheme or my sacrifice one and I have no idea which since both are so useful and have their own ways to victory or controlling the game.

>>96717730
This is a problem even with online retailers (if you're a leaf like me). No single retailer has all the cards I want, which means I have to buy from minimum 2 different sellers (realistically 4+) even if I want just a handful of cheapo commons/uncommons, which means I would be paying way more just for shipping than the cards themselves.

I took the proxy pill because of this annoying bullshit. It's easier, cheaper, and way more convenient just to throw together a proxy order than it is to try and buy company printed cards.

>>96718170
I agree.

Anyways, post your non-Eldrazi Timmy-bombs.

>pic related
Love this big guy.

>>96717140
Because most players are turbo shitters that have to rely on tutoring and gamechangers to make their decks function.

How many lands would you run in this curve?

>>96718183
buddy at lgs already got him pretty well and we have soft rule that we don't double up at pods and considering he's one of the more mature players that isn't shit to play with so i'd like to keep it that way

>>96718236
What's the average mana value? Would rather know that than see the curve

>>96718258
2.1 without lands

>>96718236
40, lets me mulligan more aggressively for the actually good turn 1 one drops.

>>96718263
35, maybe 36. More is unnecessary.

>>96718236
If you have lots of ramp as normal, 35.

>>96718275
Hm yes i was thinking about going down to 35 from 36 by replacing a land with another draw spell.

>>96718278
I have 5 mana rocks and 3 rituals, so not that much

>>96718291
Hmm. I'd start with 37 then and see how that works out.

>>96717701
Can you stop using Suzu to shitpost?

When will WotC let me play my wife in the command zone?

>>96718324
Hopefully never but probably in about two years if we're being real.

>>96718324
Never. There are too fucking many eligible generals already.

is oathbreaker nearly as shitty a format if you dont have an instant or sorcery 9th card?

>>96718352

why care about there being too many people only choose like 50 of them anyways.

Anyone feel like getting angry about UB tonight?

>>96717730
This is why I just proxy everything now. It isn't price. It is an inability to get what I need in a reasonable time. If I want to make a deck and buy the cards it will take up to 2 months for me to get the shit for the deck. If I just order it all from MPC it'll get here in a week or two.
I'll start buying real cards again when retarded online retailers learn how to send shit in a reasonable time frame.

>>96718380
Yes, i think just one or two more angry threads and they'll have no choice but to cancel UB

>>96718196
The OG timmy bomb. his downside is almost an upside in landfall decks with so many "return all land from your gy" effects now. I like him in ny PreDH jhoira deck where he comes off suspend with haste while my opponents have to stare him down for 4 turns and wait for the inevitable

>>96718401
>if you can't induce something to happen by talking about it online, it's not worth talking about

>>96718401
It is confusing. Everyone agrees with me. Everyone hates UB and all the sets failed and now MTG is dying. Thsi is a fact. But others don't see it
why?

>>96718418
You're spending your extremely limited time on earth seething every day about a game you hate even though you know it won't affect literally anything at all?

>>96718433
Yes

>>96718438
Why?

>>96718440
I must protect the sanctity of magic and Scrimblo Brimblo

>>96718410
(btw the haste doesn't matter because he enters tapped and he's terrible, that's the joke)

>>96718429
Literally millions of people see it, and they talk about it elsewhere on the internet and in the comments of every video that mentions UB, even when that video is positive

WotC does not listen because they made money one time. The more spiderflops they shit out, the more they will pull back UB

>>96718433
I love Magic, that's why I don't like you piggies turning it into the slop shed

>>96718451
>everyone agrees I'm telling you! EVERYONE!

you're also in a thread for the slop format

>>96718451
>that's why I don't like you piggies turning it into the slop shed
Yeah but you can't do anything about it no matter how much you seethe and cry into an obscure thread that maybe 6 people will read.

>>96718457
They believe if they do it then they'll somehow cause UB enjoyers to quit the game, or something. In reality they just...wouldn't come here and would go to reddit or elsewhere and keep playing. And keep supporting UB.

>>96718456
Standard is the slop format, idiot

>>96718474
Your fucking "XD PIGGY SLOP" meme you adopted was LITERALLY ABOUT COMMANDER and not UB.

>>96718470
>UBfags all go back where they came from
You didn't have to sell it to me anon

>>96718481
good luck scaring off people who have played for 20 years

AHHHH HELP ME HITLER IT'S SPIDER-MAN! NOOOO MY MAGIC SANCTITY

Anyway I cast Myojin of Life's Web on turn 4 and then remove the divinity counter to put Avacyn, Ghalta and Mavren, Two different Jin Gitaxias and an Elesh Norn.

I wish someone would start one of those "okay hand sign/pepe the frog" cancellation campaigns about the word "slop".
It was literally propelled into popular usage by /pol/ talking about "goyslop", you could easily convince normalslaves to think they're using a fascist dogwhistle when they spam "slop".

>>96718508
Not really. I saw it used for AI far before any /v/ shit.

>>96718508
The word is "normalfag", anon
You can say faggot, can't you?

>>96718480
Not me, everybody knows standard is where the pay pigs are, the secret lair aren't exclusive for edh

>>96718542
the payest of pigs are in Vintage thougheverbeit

>>96718522
Then you weren't on this site enough, "goyslop" predates popular usage of AI image generation.
It came from /pol/ and /ck/ in reference to low quality junkfood, its more abstract usage that is now commonplace only arose as a result of people on other boards applying to their interests, I.e. bad games, which then seeped into the rest of the internet.

>>96718535
Yes, you're a faggot nigger kike and i curse vishnu.

>scrimblo brimblo bad
>scrimblo brimblo brought to you by Carl's Jr good
Why are slop piggies like this?

>>96718567
Noooooooooo
Scrimblo is a meme for pro UB usage only

>>96718361
Because they have too many to choose from and get overwhelmed so they just go with what everyone else is. It's bad for the format.
Back in the day when you had maybe hundreds, there was way more diversity.

I wanna make a ultra Timmy deck (read: a pile of ramp and draw in to huge ass crestures) and thought those thicc bitch could be good. Looking online seems most people play them as a token slop commander. Thoughts? Or should I seek other commanders for big creature

>>96718645
there is one god of ultra timmies

>>96718457
>Yeah but you can't do anything about it
Okay? Do you also not discuss things beyond your control? How you feeling about politics in your country? What do you think about the quality of your favorite tv shows? Or new albums from your favorite musician

You can't control any of those things so I guess you just don't talk about them, right?

>>96718645
Lol this card seems evil as hell with how easily those colors can shit out and multiply creatures and tokens

>>96718567
The entire point of this is not that scrimblo brimblo is bad. It's that whining he isn't on the card is bad. You can like Scrimblo. The problem comes when you begin throwing your feces because Scrimbro Brimblo wasn't on the card and instead Waggin Willy is.

>>96718657
I had them built before, they're fun but I am looking for other commanders

>>96718661
Yeah but its also not a good way to give creatures keywords.

>>96718672
Then the reverse should be true, yes? Final Fantasy should have its characters replaced with Magic the Gathering characters, and Final Fantasy fans shouldn't get to complain, right?
After all, mechanically it's the same game, and if they really hate it that much they can go back and play the old games, right?

>>96718677
oh ok, if you want to stay in naya colors you have zacama who's ramp-timmy prone in playstyle as well as mayael of the anima, in adjacency i'd say eshki from the precon is also stompyish but a lot of people build her as aoe nuke from her triggers, animar just makes shit cheaper. Staying in gruul the new Rhino from spider man seems like ok stompy as he allows you to fuel your hand longer

>>96718695
No that would suck because nobody likes Gayce and Trandra, but FF characters are mostly pretty solid.

>>96718672
>don't like ub: McDonalds? You're just mad it's ub and not scrimblo on the card

>>96718677
>they
>them
Go back

>>96718713
>I like this IP so it should get to ruin the game you enjoy
UBpigs are such sociopaths i swear to god

>>96718728
No

>>96718732
Yes and we won, stay mad about it rape victim

>>96718726
One of these days

>>96718741
No Asmongold card? I'm out.

>>96718750
>Asmongold, Lord of Filth
>1/1 Human Insect

>>96718728
>using normal words is now a political issue in muttlantis
Brainrotten

>>96718760
>Sacrifice a land: Create X 1/1 flying Insect tokens, where X is the amount of insects you control.

>>96718766
Brown hands typed this

any pitfalls to be weary off when building Klothys? She kinda grabbed my attention as sorta reverse-color yshtola when it comes to clocking people

>>96718784
You aren't funny

>>96718741
Excellent plan, let's do a ravnica type set but instead of being themed around 10 guilds it will be 10 steamer organizations/esports teams or some hit. Slam dunk big money.

>>96718798
Foid hands typed this

>>96718508
It's one of those myriad meme words that used to be offensive and effective at first but crybaby retards nobody likes ran it into the ground by calling everything they disagreed with slop so it's lost its edge and relevance. Makes sense that anti-UBfag spams it incessantly in this thread, since much like WOTC they couldn't come up with something original that people like to save their life and have to rely on popular things created by others. The irony of that being totally lost on them of course.

>>96718741
Cant wait for UB: grocery store items. Where you can play as the jolly green giant or the hamburger helper glove

>>96718816
>urza player
Jew detected

>>96718800
They’ll do that, but with k-pop

>>96718829
>outing yourself as a UB newfag like this

>>96718645
Jetmir wants a wide board. He's useless if you're trying to ramp and stomp.

>>96718830
That does sound more lucrative. Kpop fans don't give a fuck about anything.

>>96718661
The evilest thing Jetmir can do is just dry swing at someone with a moderate amount of small creatures, wait for blockers to be declared, and cast a spell to make tokens at instant speed. Four 1/1s turn into 32 trample damage with the full buff going.

>>96718816
>literal troonhands
Oh no

Actually embarrassing coming here some times.

>>96718846
I fucking hate how normal it is to be a koreaboo now. I know an actual literal Korean in high school and we mocked him for telling us about Korean girl groups even though he hated them and was complaining about the shit his sister listened to

>>96718838
>urza lha has been one of the most hated commanders since mh1 dropped to the point everyone assumes someone playing him is a pub stomping asshole
>you're a newfag ub tourist
Kike tier logic

>>96718816
>the autism fingernails
Oh no no no

>>96718883
>mono urza
>pubstomp

>>96718885
>>96718883
>>96718862
>>96718838
>>96718829
>>96718810
>>96718798
>>96718784
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>>96718728
You don't play

>>96718871
why?

>>96718908
I play as often as you chew your fingernails because you hate the sensation of them brushing against things, which is to say, frequently

>>96718920
Have you never cut your nails in your entire life? Do you know what speedstick is?

>>96718894
uhh yes its absolutely a pubstomper deck lol are you new?

>>96718924
>the autist is going to unironically defend those literal stub nails as normal
My nails are long, anon. I can pick up a Magic card real easy without even touching it with my fingertips, can you imagine? Imagine the sensation of having long nails sliding across a neoprene playmat

>fails calling him brown
>immediately starts crying he must be autistic and a troon
You can stop posting any time, anon.

>>96718920
I'm autistic and chew my nails compulsively but it's not cus I don't wabt them to brush against things.
I got fake nails with my gf once and it was actually rather enjoyable to have long nails and run them across stuff.

>gay white urzanon posts hand, immediate seethe from the four brown nogames losers that play this game
People need to start posting hands more, this is the best thread in weeks.

Anyway anyone else excited about turtles? I am, but I'm the exact demo that would be so thanks for catering to my personal brand of slop WoTC

>>96718934
Post nails and deodorant

>>96718952
I knew showing Urza and only Urza would generate the most seethe from the local poor poos.

Turtles is meh. I wont buy or play anything from it. The only UB I have ever cared about was LOTR.

>eldrazifag with a deck worth thousands pubstomps our table game 1
>I target him at the start of game 2
>other guy at the table says I shouldn't because it's a new game and i shouldn't make decisions based in what happened before
At least that guy got raped by the eldrazi dude first.

>that player who takes 10 seconds to perform any game action
>theyre playing izzet

>>96718988
I admit being in the strike zone for both turtles and spider-man. I mostly buy non-collector singles though. Pic related has been really fun to play.
>>96719021
Did they change decks at all? If it's the same deck than yeah you're definitely right, but if it's a different deck it could just be eldrazi anon didn't match table power correctly.
>>96718982
My current pod doesn't have this issue. Current problem is a player that swings out into someone with open mana then gets booty-blasted when there's a response

>>96719050
No he played the same eldrazi deck both times.
I was planning to take him out early to mitigate the threat but i guess that wasn't the vibe at the table.

>>96719021
rikka poster

>>96719057
Then yeah that's fair if it's such a pubstomp.

Bnuy

>>96719021
clap back with the "I'm making decisions based on what the deck does" which shuts up those faggots right good

I'm black and play UB btw

>>96719103
Lightskin ass nigga

>>96719107
I got dark birthmarks at least

>>96719103
Why

>>96719103
Ew

>>96719129
I really don't care about UB I just play the game because I find it fun.
>>96719132
:(

>play a modified FF precon deck
>get targeted by oloro player with the sweatiest deck at the table because I dared to counterspell him doubling his life and focused by him the rest of the game while the other two do nothing
>he wins because nobody else had counterspells after I died and he did approach of the second sun and then tutored it back to his hand
>play the Kefka deck the next round and
>completely paralyze the board by emptying everyone's hands with constant discard
>they're all grumbling and annoyed at me
>blink agent of treachery and steal a bunch of oloro's lands
>do a transformed Kefka/Niv Mizzet combo to outright kill oloro player and end up with a 50-something card hand
>get milled out by someone else who lucked out and stole cards off the top of the other person's deck and just happened to get a mill card (sus)
it was totally worth it, I enjoyed making everyone suffer, getting revenge like I claimed I would and looking like an absolute clown with a half a deck for a hand

>>96719103
>Im black and my deck is about abusing this dog
tracks

>>96719159
Sounds turkish to me

>>96719170
Putting its basilisk collar on a bit too tight

>>96719103
>behold, a target demographic

>>96719207
>>96719159
it's nice to be nice

>>96719159
Baseball, huh?

>>96719103
>>96718784
Same friend

>>96719262
>>96719262
>>96719262

Saddle up to the new thread pardners

Had RSV and was first symptomatic 8 days ago. Feeling mostly better. Am I safe to go to EDH tonight, /edhg/?

>>96719438
Just make sure the place is properly ventilated and take something so your symptoms don't help spread it. Otherwise, you are most likely (but not surely) fine.

>>96719103
yjk!!!