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▶TQ: Where do you play specialist games? Does your LGS has any gwsg scene or do you mostly play at home?

>>96713330 (OP)
>TQ
My LGS has a small scene, but it's mostly KT and Blood Bowl, and Necromunda is the game for me. As such, me and my campaign group mostly play at one dude's house, said dude being the one with three 3D printers and enough free time to churn out painted terrain more or less continually.

We play BB at Tabletop Kingdom Rotterdam and the commissioner's home.

>>96708375
bumping the request for an Armies of Middle-Earth pdf

>>96714095
Nice
>>96713330 (OP)
>TQ
We don't even have an LGS anymore around here and all players i know lost interest, so i have no real place right now.

>>96714355
Check tg archive, it's on gofile

>>96714478
/d/cYPwvY is expired, unfortunately

>>96713330 (OP)
>TQ
Sometimes I'll play at my local GW, but these days I mostly play at my friends place or at the university wargaming club. Pre-coof the GW near me had a much larger active playerbase of specialist gamers and I was playing there a lot more often. Back then the redshirt there was very enthusiastic about organizing leagues and campaigns. I still have my KT dice bag and 2nd-place metal from their KT18 league, those were good times.
You'd think they'd want people playing in-store to show off to new customers that there's an active community to play with but they just don't seem to encourage in store play as much these days, the GW in town actually moved into a more spacious location last year but their table space for playing got cut in half and they replaced the sweet realm of battle boards they had with cardboard mats.

Is it just me or are Dire Wolves (Mordheim) awful? They're very expensive for a dog that can't run. Although they do have a really long charge distance, that doesn't matter so much because charging ahead of your warband is bad strategy, it doesn't have the initiative for around the corner charges, and if it doesn't win its fight on the charge it's probably going to lose over the course of the next couple of rounds.

If it were cheaper maybe it'd be a good pick, but when it has to compete with Ghouls? Who are cheaper, have T4 and two attacks out of the gate, and can still run/charge 8 inches? I can never justify getting them for my warband. Especially when Dregs are already your designated "stay out of real fights, do the objective" guys and I can drop the same amount of money (actually, slightly less) on three zombies if I just need more bodies.

Does anyone have a copy of the Bastions of Law book for Necromunda? I'm looking for a friend and it's not in the gofile link I got from another thread.

Also here's a picture of my Malstrain Genestealers

>>96717829
FOMO bitch.

>>96717829
You beat me to it. Where the FUCK is it
I want to know how if they're really so retarded that they'll reduce positionals to make everything a one box team

Necromunda people anyone use Vandoth the Fallen? Is he any good? I kind of want him for my gang

>>96717829
This. Havent been able to start a new league because everyone wanted to wait if the new rules would come out soon-ish. And it'd be nice to know if GW is going to kill BB like they ruined MESBG. I can finally be completely free of their products if BB gets dumpstered. All the rumours about team changes are nightmare fuel.

>buy the new Warhammer quest without any info about the game, potentially spending hundreds of dollars on shit
or
>wait until the game is evaluated, and spend too much on it because GW printed two copies

I wish GW would make their games both good and available, and then support them.

>>96718553
Isnt it Siggy Piggy slop? Why would you care about it?

>>96718561
I want a boxed game

>>96718561
Shockingly some people care more about the gameplay of a game than the setting, and at least from the preview art most of the minis will likely be fairly generic fantasy fare.

Convince me not to buy into house Escher.
Pic unrelated.

>>96719279
>buy into
No, you've been told about GW for years, if you're still going to cuck up and hand over your wallet, go right ahead.

I'm a kill team player that's looking to get into warcy with some slaneshi daemons and mantic abysal dwarves that I'll run as Helsmiths of Hashut when their rules drop (I'll base them accordingly)

I've read through warcrier but was wondering if anyone had any resources that showcase what an ideal terrain setup looks like. I have a bunch of GW 40k terrain pieces for kt and I'd like to scratch-build everything I'd need for warcry as a project. How important are large line of sight pieces and vantage points for warcy?

>>96720173
The original starter set ruins are what the game was designed around and to this day are still the gold standard for Warcry terrain. You want a good density of terrain that is ideally at least one additional story - models with the fly and mount runemark both have in-built cost adjustments that are balanced around the assumption that boards will be somewhat dense and that there will be a reasonable amount of verticality.

>>96720270
Just to get started, how would a bunch of rock formations like pic related work? Maybe with wooden ladders and planks running between a few of them
Castle Hill, New Zealand FWIW

>>96720303
For sure, something like that should be just fine. A bunch of my own terrain is just some rock formations with flat tops for putting minis on and they work well.

>>96713330 (OP)
Yes.
There's 2 I go to, one for Necromunda and one for Warcry

>>96718561
Better setting than Fantasy

>>96720270
Agree. Some of the new sets aren't as cool. Personally I really like the Red Harvest terrain too

>>96718561
Because faggot a lot of Siggy stuff still looks great. Cursed City has a lot of sculpts for Mordheim for example, including a kislevite noble, a necromancer, a priest of Morr, a sister of sigmar, an elf ranger and the best witch hunter sculpt GW has made. And Radukar's side was practically a ready made Undead warband out of the box, with extras.

I'm curious to see the sculpts for this one. Seems like beastmen are getting put in so that'll be exciting to see.

QRD pls, how old and nu Necromunda differ in two words, and why the nu one is considered bad?
Is it somewhat worth to buy? Some factions have sublime minis.

>>96721337
NU is a lot easier to have everyone become super powerful, not as scrappy crackheads fighting it out. That's raw rules, but lots of people play Nu with rules that make it more like the old one.
Even in the core rulebook it suggests rules for it

>>96721337
Oldcromunda had the gangs a lot more generic, they were the same thing with different skill table (and weapon selection in some rules variants). No house-based special units or weapons.

Also Nu gets a lot of flak for having its rules spread over a shitload of mini-expansions and DLC. IIRC some people made effort to collect the rules in one place/file like a battle bible, but I don't know how complete or current it was.

That said, if your buddies are OK with playing Oldcromunda with Nu minis, that's an option too.

>>96721327
>this is what siggy piggers consider the greatest model ever

>>96721759
I said greatest witch hunter sculpt, not greatest model.
The greatest model is the plastic Giant kit they released in like 2005. That thing is a joy to build.

>>96721896
NTA but
>greatest witch hunter sculpt
Is a bit much. He's fine but ridiculously tall with exaggerated proportions that would make a space marine blush. Dude's hat is as tall as his arm is long.
>inb4 you just hate him cus its AoS!
I don't think the setting is amazing or anything but it's perfectly serviceable.

>>96718561
Reddit alert! Reddit alert! We have a redditor in the thread!

>>96722324
Pretty sure reddit loves smegmar

>>96721337
>nu instead of new
It's beyond your comprehension, stick to tic-tac-toe

>>96718311
He's the best tank and distraction carnifex for Outlaw, as Outlaw you didn't get much choice for bounty hunter either. And his fee is very fair. If you look at the other 250+ hire.

I am once again asking for GW to release more information on BB S3

>>96718553
Almost certain it'll be another repetitive slop that got boring real quick. At least the designer of Silver Tower was well aware of this so he gave people 40+ playable characters as an incentive to replay the game.

>>96721620
The rules bloat isn't too bad with Necroraw having it all.
The expansion stuff is optional, so generally core book (2023 not the old one) + House Of book is fine.

But the core book layout is horrendous. I have it but tend to use Necroraw for everything

>>96713330 (OP)
Does the new Blood Bowl starter actually come with all the special players you need for a "real" team?

>>96726874
No, buy 3rd party if you want a full team in one box, GW doesn't do that.
Greebo and Punga have good selection for that, just 2 of over a dozen good names.

>>96727017
What ever happened to Black Scorpion? They were making some cool teams but apparently stopped?

>>96728227
I'm not familiar with them, looking at their site though I see a section for fantasy football which is completely empty.
I'm betting they got threatened by GW and decided they couldn't afford to try and make a fight of it. Many such cases.

>>96727017
>Punga
I've been waiting more than a year for them to come out with pt2 of their "Snowy Giants" halfling team, which is female halflings with pine treemen in a non-goofy christmas theme.
As is there is only 9 halflings and 2 treemen which is well short of playing even a starting team. Really good sculpts though and I'll buy the physical minis as soon as I can do the full thing even though I have a 3D printer.

>>96727017
So what's missing?

>>96728507
for most teams a second box and a separate big guy.

Anyone ever get around to scanning the Wyrdhollow rulebook? The only one I can find online doesn't seem to have the lore section and that's all I really want to take a peak at.

Can I get a quick rundown on the new Chorf BB team?
I hear they got nerfed pretty badly compared to legacy rules. But how fun are they? We're going to run a B-tier team league with stuff like Black Orcs and Nurgle, so I was thinking Chorfs would fit there perfectly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOBcxXtrUbM
Warcry's lead designer dropped some insight into the game and its development on his new youtube channel. There are some fascinating stuff in there for those interested (i.e., the game originally used varying dice for combat rolls based on models WS).

>>96728507
Some teams are missing extra positionals that you'll want to more of, making a second box almost mandatory. Some boxes, like Norse, have every positional, but you may want to buy their big guy as well as a few more lineman depending on what roster you want for a league

>>96730656
nurgle, blorcs and chorfs are all top teams.

>>96730878
Top teams in what, the amount of top keks to be had? They're rubbish teams but that's the entire draw.

>>96730906
Clearly you're a newfag.

>>96730767
I'll have to watch this when I'm a bit more awake into the morning but I think his video on spearhead is also quite insightful.

>>96723096

What are the changes you are hoping to see?
While the vast majority of people will move to S3 regardless of whether its actually a better game, it might help you inform yourself if you set out your own expectations in advance.

I am wanting Wildly Inaccurate gone which is already confirmed.
I'd like the tiers tightened up a bit, especially seeing Nurgle, Black Orcs, Nobility and Chaos bumped up. Even simple changes like a -5k cut on some players, cheaper Bribes or reducing the cost of TRRs.
I'd like to see Chaos Renegades continue to exist as well as their Big guys picking up primary mutations, the Thrower not sucking so hard and maybe the Goblins increasing to 0-2.
I'd like the Doom Diver to be un-fucked and for secret weapons to be declared at the start of a drive, so you can elect to use them as Linemen until they are needed.

>>96731211
NTA but I want them to remove Renegades, OWA and Underworld. They're just badly designed soup teams and I'd rather see totally new team concepts in their stead. Could have some sort of 3 big guy team inspired by renegades which isnt just a boring slop soup.
I want dwarf linemen to lose tackle.
I want chorfs to have easier access to mutations.
Old teams with super limited skills like chaos should get reworked to have positionals and skills.
And rerolls should generally be a bit cheaper for a number of teams.

Does anyone know where to find PDFs for Armies of Lord of the Rings and the new ruleset? It's crazy that I have to spend another $100 for new rules and army lists.

>>96731296
>remove Renegades
Oh yes let's remove a team made by the man who invented the fucking game to represent one of the first lore teams in the game.
You absolute fucking tool.

Building a mordheim table lads

>>96731211
I just want Pass to be merged with Agility once again. It sucks that some players can't pass. It was funny having some complete retards carrying the ball and passing to score.

>>96731373
>muh lore
>in BB
Who the fuck cares?
Its a shit team that could use a rework. 3 big guys is an interesting idea tho so that can be used as an inspiration

>>96731355
Dont even bother, the game is utter shit now. The listbuilding is the most restrictive drivel in any GW game and has utterly killed many communities that flourished under the previous ruleset.

>>96731589
>The listbuilding is the most restrictive drivel in any GW game
Are you sure about that?

>>96731355
Check 4plebs archive when it's back up.

>>96730767
>the game originally used varying dice for combat rolls based on models WS
Oh I fucking hate when alternative wargames do this. It's especially popular among obnoxious x28 games.

>>96731613
KT is shit but it doesnt pretend like it has any listbuilding. MESBG is tragic because the new edition took a fat shit on the greatest listbuilding of any wargame and replaced it with this modern abortion that's just spitting on what came before

>>96731582
If you don't care about the game, then go shit up another game.

>>96731966
Oh I care deeply about the game. But not about the fucking lore.

>>96732049
No you don't care about the game or you wouldn't be whinging on about how it needs to become a balanced meta for better competitive play.
That's not what Blood Bowl is, go play chess.

>>96731927
I'm just getting into MESBG, building and painting some Isengard dudes. What is the main difference between old and new edition when it comes to listbuilding?

>>96732263
From what I understand they restricted lists to being more true to "scenes" from the movies. So you can't have any models or wargear that was not present in that specific scene that represents the warband.

>>96732263
In the previous edition you could build factions in a very free-form way. Very few restrictions. Could just pick the heroes you wanted with whatever wargear you wished for. There were a lot of options that didnt have specific models which encouraged converting.
What I miss the most is that factions could be allied into each other to make cool combinations. For example khazad dum dwarves and lothlorien elves. The alliance matrix heavily discouraged super lore breaking combinations though, so you mostly saw things from lore or very plausible combinations. For example my personal favorite was Lothlorien Numenor. Or from super wacky variety Isengard Moria (which wasnt very good but a ton of fun).
Now the factions are incredibly restricted. Cant even have Lurtz leading armoured Uruks for fucks sake. And in tournaments just by seeing the faction you already know what the player is running pretty much to exactly, the creativity is nonexistent.

Also, I frankly hated the Legendary Legions which they started pushing in supplements. Faction variants with restrictions and a page's worth of bloat special rules. Now every fucking faction is a legendary legion with asinine rules. Gone are the days of an entire faction's special rules being just "+1 courage".

>>96713330 (OP)

Yup, they play a lot of Blood Bowl and Necro at my LGS. Hell, the nearby GW store even does Blood Bowl.

TQ: I play either at home or at friends. Beat my friends enforcers with my cawdor-affiliated outcasts.

Luck over skill. As it should be.

>>96722324
As an unironic redditor, I can confirm that I and many fellow redditors love AoS

>>96713330 (OP)
anyone have a link for the new necromunda enforcers book?

>>96717484
>Does anyone have a copy of the Bastions of Law book for Necromunda?
No one really knows what is happening with the epub and whether it will actually be coming or not. Community articles said it is but no sign so far. Maybe we will see if once the recalled kit gets released. Otherwise it is waiting on someone to scan their physical copy which would eventually happen but could take some time, and they are probably holding off doing so until we have proof positive an epub isn't coming.

are there blank templates or other tools for making your own units for epic (armageddon specifically, if that makes a difference)?

>>96733171
>>96733291
I don‘t really mind giving the armies more movie flavour. What‘s odd is shit like Isengard not having access to trolls any more.

Gib BB news already

>>96736768
Not until you hand over your wallet, paypig.

Bretonnian warband cobbled together from Bret and Empire minis

>>96738474
Looks great mate. Really nailed the mordheim aesthetic.
Blues and reds look very nice
PAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPA

>>96738505
>the mordheim aesthetic.
Isn't that supposed to be grim and dreary?

>>96738513
No, thomas was quite clear about SMGs and uzis, there's even an entire page of ammo upgrades in the main rulebook.

>>96738522
Didn't notice that 0-o
But as for theme and color this is definitely a great WHFB Brettonian, it just doesn't seem at all Mordheim.

>>96738533
I really like the dark setting but brets are silly from the off, so the bright colours in the city of the damned still works imo.
I'm halfway through painting mord brets in a darker blanche style and I wish I hadnt bothered desu. This lot >>96731406 have just had oils and need highlights and bases. Just couldnt resist running the grail relic (fake horse from pilgrims) as a knight in the setting.

>>96738505
>>96738513
I prefer high readability on the table. Attempts at Blanchitsu can end up with a lot of brown blobbing where minis are hard to tell apart. So I went with more classic WHFB aesthetic.

How would you guys feel if AoS got added to Blood Bowl and if anyone asks GW says "it's funny"

>>96738821
Why does he have guns

>>96738995
I got a random shoebox of bitz and his bow was broken.

>>96739018
ah, fair enough

>>96730850
>>96728544
But I don't care about "most" or "some" teams I'm asking specifically about the TK sprues that will be included with the new starter box

>>96739399
Here's an idea: read the box contents yourself, you couldve done that days ago you lazy shit.

>>96738821
Yeah it reads like that and I like them. They look exactly how I imagine grimdark brets to look.

>>96725651
New negra inmunda would be unplayble without things like necroraw. Munda manager helps a lot to standardized gang list building.

>>96739546
>necroraw
Necrodamus FTW

>>96713330 (OP)
>TQ
just got back from a game at my LGS actually. Consistent 6-8 person turnout for necromunda days. It's nice to have at least one game that's regular.

>>96738821
>I prefer high readability on the table.
For me, the Battle Brothers vidya (picrel) is the best WHFB aesthetic. Shitty and grimy style, clean and readable execution.

Just got a pack of rohan royal guard as a gift. My goal is to get a full mounted list. How many of them do I need?

>>96739546
Yeah Munda Manager

>>96738964
A lot of AoS armies have roots in Fantasy so would be either exactly the same, or like an offshoot of an existing team

>>96740281
>Rohan royal guard
Depends on your points value, no? Look into proxies, or consider a mortgage.

>>96738474
Bringing the akimbo switchy glocks to Mordheim seems mighty unfair and against lore in me opinion.

I heard malstrain infected gangs arent very good, if so, which one is most playable?

>>96743558
They didn't provide anything interesting while also making your gang outlaw. The main spotlight of the gang is the genestealers that come with 0 options on the kit and 0 customizations in the rules. The best application for them is Corpse grinder because they're already outlaw, and can make some use of scums, as well as some genestealers

>>96739399
We literally don't know.

>>96745569
We do know though, when I said "most" I meant that the ones which need two boxes are in a separate group from the ones which also need a forgeworld big guy, that's it, those are the two categories.
The starter set teams require a second box and also might require a big guy depending on the specific team.
I have never purchased any of them but I still know it.
In fact the only GW BB models I own are the refs and josef bugman smoking a pipe sitting against a keg.

>>96740047
Necrodamus has a lot of house rules not disclaimed as such and also is kind of in a devolvement clusterfuck thanks to GW and the guys working in it kind of dead drop off or something else.
Necroraw is just a copy past of what the current rules are.

>>96745664
Nigga, what are you on about.
Your question: will the teams in the third season starter box be complete?
We. Don't. Know. We don't know if they'll be able to field a big guy. We don't know if they can only have X number of positionals and only Y number of them are in the box.

>>96745753
Learn to read, Nigger.
Anon was asking about the existing starter boxes.

>>96746167
Mordheim heads: do you anons houserule that you can measure before charging, or do you still do it by the book that you have to declare first and measure second? I ask because I I always hated having to declare blindly in previous GW systems, and it seems universally agreed that people like that it's gone, so is houseruling it into Mordheim positive?

>>96748175
Oof didn't mean to reply to a random comment

>>96748175
The only time I've ever played it differently was to accommodate a mentally challenged friend who has an extremely poor sense of spacial awareness and genuinely has trouble gauging distances because of it. Charges are meant to have some chance of failure so if you remove no pre-measuring for them you need to introduce some kind of other failure state for a charge IMO. Personally I vastly prefer charges being double movement but no pre-measuring to the usual 2D6 inches thing GW tends to do now. You could perhaps meet it somewhere in the middle and do movement + 1D6 inches but that does buff slower fighters and nerfs faster ones, so keep that in mind.

>>96748342
I'm not mentally challeneged, I just think square/hex grids are superior to LOS+Tapemeasure.

>>96748342
Aight. I was mostly worried since we have a couple of people new to wargaming + I'm making all the terrain which could give me an advantage in estimating distances.

>>96748392
How irrelevant

>>96738964
Don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby.

>>96715130
LOVE that Collectible Coin. Anyone translate the binary inscribed?

>>96748974
"Skirmish Combat in the 41st Millenium"

>>96748992
Thanks! Blessings of the God-Emperor upon you!

Does anybody have the Necromunda Core Rulebook? The new one.

>>96748974
Yeah it's sweet, a lot bigger than the monthly coins they do too. Still probably my favorite prize for placing in a store event. The dice bags they gave out to everyone who played were decent too, mine has still held up with regular use all these years.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/rtcag66b/new-warhammer-quest-heroes-enhance/

New quest look like a "basement crawl" more than a dungeon crawl, no more tiles to build map layout, now it's just a board with walls and obstacles. Like a basement.

>>96751454
So 7 heroes (4 on board, 3 on the left) total and a pet or something

>>96751454
seems to be a book with different layouts instead of just a single tileset

There's something that's been bugging me about Duel Rolls in mesbg.

>DUEL ROLL
>To see who wins a Fight, you must make a Duel roll. To make a Duel roll, each player rolls a D6 and the player with the highest result wins.
This means 1 in 6 times your fight value determines the outcome of the fight otherwise it's a flip of the coin who wins.

If you add more dice to the pool like you do with multiple attacks only the highest roll in the pool matters.

>MULTIPLE ATTACKS
>Many models have more than one Attack listed on their profiles. When a model such as this is involved in a Fight, simply roll a D6 for each of the model’s Attacks when making the Duel roll, and use the result of the highest dice when checking to see who has won the Fight.

So Player A has 2d6 and Player B has 1d6. A is 60% likely to win, 30% likely to lose with a 10% chance of a draw. So the fight value is less likely to be used here.

If you break down the math behind that it seems like having more attacks is more powerful than the fight value. To be fair, the more dice you throw the more likely you are to use the fight value, since people are more likely to roll sixes, but that still seems counterintuitive. The first assumption would be that the fight value reflects the quality of the fighter (the section explaining characteristics says this outright), but you rely on the number dice more often to win fights.

This is just an observation, but it struck me as an odd quirk that does not really align with expectations set by the rulebooks own words towards the mechanical value/function just reading the statlines of a profile. Maybe I'm overthinking this, but it seems like the Fight value is not nearly as relevant as it should be.

>>96753109
I've had a single Elf Captain take down like 10 Uruks thanks to his fight value winning on the draw.

>>96753121
Maybe you are right. I've been thinking about this on a one to one basis like an RPG. But I had a brainfart because I was thinking "one way", so to speak.
You get to defend against incoming attacks where the fight value is more likely to matter. So being attacked by a horde gives you a ton of dice to defend with.

That makes way more sense now. Thank you.

>>96753162
Happy to have been of assistance anon

>>96751454
And yet you're going to buy it anyway.

>>96751454
>no mention or news of blood bowl s3 that was in the same pic

>>96754091
The news is that BB is dead again because GW can't compete with 3D printing and they have to focus their lawfare on 40k

>>96754091
Was anything new shown in the image for Blood Bowl?

>>96754185
No, anon is high.

>>96753162
>>96753121
>>96753109
The maths is kinda weird to actually maths through manually.

I did it in anydice for various combinations, 1 = you win, as you can see, having either is good, having both higher than your opponent is the thing that really gets wins.

>>96755190
and then ofcourse, might is a factor, if you have higher F and access to enough might you can win any fight, so it doesn't matter if you somehow had fight 3 but 100 attacks, if your 5 fight opponent rolls a 4 and has 2 might available, you lose that fight

>>96754185
Nah, but my point still stands
>>96754174
In a perfect world, they'd combat this by freshing old teams, having every box come include all positionals and even one big guy if a team needs two

Pic for >>96755329 didn't come through

>>96755329
>freshing old teams
Don't fix what ain't broke.
>have every box include all positionals and even one big guy
No need, everyone else already does tht, just get over your need to have GAMES WORKSHOP stamped on the box.

>>96755366
>>freshing old teams
Sorry, I meant refreshing them and as in new models, not new positions/rules.
>No need, everyone else already does tht, just get over your need to have GAMES WORKSHOP stamped on the box.
What's tht? And I was arguing that them including every positional in one box would deter some from seeking third party prints. I'm not saying I'm against these prints

I'm having so much fun in my local bb league, some really great games, and it's nice when we get together on league night and see everyone.

The tables cheering when a particularly annoying player gets killed is just special

>>96754174
>provably more players than ever before
>thriving tournament scene
>thriving casual scene

long live bloodbowl

>>96755658
>provably more players than ever before
Quality>Quantity

>>96755214
>and then ofcourse, might is a factor,
Yeah I didn't consider that either. Very good point. Heroes with multiple attacks, decent figth and access to might are pretty though then through multiple layers of design.

>>96755190
Thank you for this.

>>96755679
if the players are worse at bloodbowl then you should have no problem winning more

Where do you guys get skill bands or negatrait bands? Anywhere in North America?

>all these anons ITT mentioning their thriving LGS BB scenes
what mythical lands are these

Does anyone have a pdf of the "Darktide the Miniatures Game" rules that they could share?

>>96755777
It's not wether or not they are worse at the actual playing of the game, it is that they are doing it wrong, taking it meta-competitive like what happened with BB2 online play or FUMBBL black box, that shit has no place on the BB table, or how the newfag crowd all jump on the latest team to get a GW makeover, stuff like that.

>>96755846
Active ≠ Thriving

>>96755923
Doomerfaggt

>>96756194
Death is the only truth, suck my balls.

>>96756209
How does that follow? Are you in middle school?

>>96756224
All I hear is
>Schlurp schlop schlorp schlup

>>96756268
Have a good night

I'm looking for 6 x 4 and 4 x 4 mats for Ash Wastes Necromunda - which ones would you recommend? I don't like the Deep Cut one because it has roads already on it.

>>96718553
>>96718561
I am annoyed since I'm 90% sure the magic user and the knight were supposed to be a plastic Damsel and Baron for TOW like the new plastic Tomb King heroes but instead got repurposed for this.

>>96750854
The physical book or a pdf?
The answer is yes to both

Are the Necromunda floor tiles worth it?

>>96757581
Great for fancy pic, not great for your wallet.

>>96757586
It's not that expensive, I'm seriously thinking of getting them.
I have a pretty decent income

>>96757269
Was asking for a pdf trove but already found a good one. ty

>>96757581
>>96757614
Any money you spend on floor tiles would be better spend on actual building, walls, platforms, or just plasticard, which affect gameplay and are visually more interesting.

Not to mention that likely an XPS board with some plasticard here and there would weight less.

Do not consoom.

>>96757581
Also consider MDF

>>96757581
>>96757614
If you've got the image, it's the work of 30 minutes to get them printed off then transferred onto MDF or chipboard or something, which'll work out cheaper even if you pay someone to do it for you.

>>96753109
yes?
what about this doesn't make sense?

fight value represents raw skill as a duelist, so you're more likely to defeat an opponent in a 1v1, and more likely to defeat less skilled opponents in general.
but even so a better fighter can get overwhelmed by raw number of attacks and get hacked apart
but on the flip side it means the greater raw power (attacks) your hero has, fight value gets exponentially more dangerous, since once you're reliably rolling 4-5 dice a turn that F6+ becomes pretty impossible for regular troops to stop.

it's very relevant, but you are still right that sheer number of attacks is also very powerful- both ends of this are shown by the fact that both rivendell/lorien (high fight elite army) and muster/usurpers (spamming low fight) are very dominant in tournaments. ofc both also have other tricks, but having quality troops that can outgrind enemies and big hordes that can overwhelm both make the most of the duel system.

Blood Bowl question:
Can I only buy the permanent apothecary during team roster building or came I buy it after X number of games?
Additionally, does the cost increase if I buy it later? Or does it remain 50K?

>>96736072
Sorry not in the movies so it must go
> But you sold an isengard troll kit
What? Huh? You must be mistaken anon, it's not the on website so it was never sold

So there's no epub for Bastion of Law yet, but the rules are out there right? Someone must have done a "man reads books" review on youtube or something that showed all the relevant pages. I'm itching to see what they've done with my enforcers.

>>96759023
https://www.goonhammer.com/goonhammer-reviews-necromunda-bastions-of-law/

They became a normal gang. Downside is that it incentivized more than 1 edgelord to play them in the same campaign, which is cringe. And Ash Waste Enforcers still stay in their old version with the mediocre stats and all, and is now a true fluffy version, instead of a tryhard enforcers "i'm an ash waste cop living in the spire"

>>96758519
>fight value represents raw skill as a duelist, so you're more likely to defeat an opponent in a 1v1,
That was the point of confusion. Because in a straight 1 to 1 fight with one attack (1 die) each you would only use the fight value ~17% of the time to determine the winner of a fight, because you need to roll the same numbers for it to come into play at all. It is only when more dice are being thrown (multiple attacks) that the odds change in a way that you are likely going to use the fight skill to resolve the duel, because statistically you are more likely to roll 6s.

The math would change dramatically depending on how this check is resolved.
Example: Tiny gobbo has low fight and no strength but multiple attacks, say three. Big Ogre is strong and a good fighter but slow, say one attack. Unless Ogre gets to defend against all three attacks with a single dice of his own (because he has one attack) he will almost never win even though he is a better fighter and stronger. If Ogre gets to defend against each dice individually he will almost never lose, because the likelyhood of a matched dice roll and use of his stats increases to ~85%.
Another element to this is the narrative level attacks. If you think of them as raw power as you said it makes sense. I was picturing it more as indicator of speed, which read different.

I was looking at this yesterday while noodling through some game math from other rule systems. But if you put it into the context of the character profiles in the book then only the big important named heroes have multiple dice to roll and it mostly coincides with 5 or higher fight values.
So there is another layer of design over the odds that nudges it into the right direction. And as the other Anon also pointed out the heroes get to fudge some numbers with Might. There is odds, unit profiles and a safety net that makes heroes act like heroes.

In isolation it looked more arbitrary than it is.

>>96757980
Way too lean for the underhive.
The underhive is a thousands of years old pile of rubble under the true structural base of the actual hive, it is the ruined and decayed remains of the city that once existed before the emperor had the hive plunked on top of it, it shouldn't be neat or clean or even made with GW terrain kits because mechanicus/mortalis/imperialis represent Imperium STC construction.

>>96759227
This is a squad of barely human killing machines wearing armor that is hundreds of years old in the middle of an engagement on a godforsaken deathworld where everything is trying to kill them.

40k isn't a documentary. Bright colors are fun to look at is what I'm saying.

>>96759330
No, bright colors are juvenile.

>>96759339
Being preoccupied with what other people think is juvenile.

>>96759356
Stop for a second and think about that, you're the one who started bitching at me for what I think.

>>96759227
Let's see your board. For inspiration.

>>96758632
>Can I only buy the permanent apothecary during team roster building or came I buy it after X number of games?
one can be bought during any hiring and firing phase in the post game sequence just any other team staff
>Additionally, does the cost increase if I buy it later? Or does it remain 50K?
to my knowledge only rerolls increase in price after the initial team building so no

>>96759382
>just any other team staff
i meant 'just like any other team staff' i am retarded

>>96759372
>Stop for a second and think about that, you're the one who started bitching at me for what I think.
Really? You are trying to tell the other guy he pained his board wrong. Take your own advice and think about what you are saying. Including trying not to look juvenile while playing with toy soldiers.

>>96759380
I'm not your pet monkey, asshat.

>>96759391
>You are trying to tell the other guy he pained his board wrong.
Kids these days really can't handle constructive criticism.

>>96759382
>>96759390
Thanks king

>>96759401
It's not constructive. He clearly went into a different direction. You are talking about a completely different thing.
Calling somebody a kid also only works if you are insecure. But I guess we got that from the whole being juvenile thing.
Point being, it's a hobby. Calm down. It's just toy soldiers.

>>96759421
>toy soldiers
Necromunda, retard, not 40k.

>>96721220
Okay anon, you talked me into Necromunda now my Blood Bowl team is done. Now, where would I get models like those Escher girls?

>>96759451
>anon did a thing
>I don't like it.
>I do.
>How fucking dare you! It's juvenile. It's childish! ARE YOU A CHILD?

That's how you sound. Ironically developmentally retarded applies to you more than anyone else here. I was just saying I like the bright colors. No reason to shit yourself in anger, buddy.

>>96759187
Thanks anon, appreciated. Sounds like my melee captain and grenade launcher-toting subjugators are no longer that great. Hmm. Maybe next year I'll be able to find some time to do up some more Enforcers between Mordheim projects.

The knight from the new WHQ game. Decent enough model, though I'm not a fan of the shield being sculpted into his cloak.

>>96759474
Learn how to handle criticism kid, this was pretty mild and life has a whole lot more to throw at you.

>>96759463
Telegram.

>>96759395
You are a nogames nigger.

>>96759474
I just took inspiration from the official paintjob. It's just that this no games nigger went too far down the grimshart instagram hole. What a fag.

>>96759739
>inspired by dirty, rusty
>paints clean, oiled

>>96759790
>clean
Let's say you had dropped a piece of corpse starch pizza on that floor. Would you still eat it?

>>96759935
Buddy I havent washed my coffee pot, fork, spoon, knife or cooking pot in over 6 months.

>>96760090
Cup*

Can someone give me a good Norse starting roster for a league? There's one starting in December at my LGS and, aside from BB3, I'm a pretty big noob.
I definitely want to take the yeti, but I'm not sure whether I should try to take zerks or just stick with 1 valk, 2 ulfs and the rest linemen

>>96760438

Are you familiar with FUMBBL?
https://fumbbl.com/help:BB20NorseSetUp

>>96760461
Yeah, I was just curious what people thought of starting with zerks

>>96759463
Based.
Use the rest of your witch elves.

>>96759463
Drow are black not brown and WHFB dark elves are porcelain white, so good job ruining those.

>>96760090
Based real life grimshart enjoyer.

>>96759935
But I didn't drop my piece of corpse starch pizza on that floor.

>>96761004
Anon has clearly taken the route of painting them like 80'-90's jap depictions of dark elves, white hair with brown skin.

>>96761991
Which is extremely based

>>96757980
>>96758146
>>96757586

Fuck me looked up Etsy options, more expensive than GW

>>96759578
I like his background.

>>96761991
No, anon painted his elves like niggers for the sake of having other people look at niggers in a space where you aren't going to find niggers outside of maybe yugioh night.

>>96762437
You wouldn't happen to be the same anon who hasn't cleaned his dishes in 6 months from earlier in the thread, would you?

>>96762700
>grasping at the possibility of ad hominem
I see you have no argument.

>>96763081
>no argument
There's no argument to be had, you've already made it clear you're too far down the nigger-obsessed branrot rabbit hole to understand that pic rel is not a nigger.

>>96763158
Deedlit was not a fucking nigger you piece of shit.
She w blonde and pale, that's something else for you to call me nigger obsessed while you're collecting nogger edits.

>>96763158
Okinawan elves are the best aesthetic.

>>96759463
Chocolate is delicious

>>96763211
You're a homosexual

>>96763211
I can actually fucking see the holes in your brain holy shit.

>>96760864
They're not bad but S4 frenzy is much better than S3 frenzy, and valks are a lynchpin

Excited for my upcoming league game, I'm getting nervous though because I'm building an undefeated streak

>>96759207
that's fair, but I still wouldn't call it arbitrary, even at it's least useful (1 dice v 1 dice) you're looking at winning 6 times out of 10, which compounds in usefulness over the course of a battle.

both fight value and attacks are meant to represent the total combat ability of a warrior- that example doesn't really exist in the game by design. the tiny little gobbo is shit, so he has 1A and F2. your average elf is a lot better with a blade so he's F5, but he's only a regular mook, so still 1A.
big ogre however naturally has way more strength and hitting power, so in addition to being higher fight (not cause he's a master fencer, but just cause he's so strong most parries wouldn't matter) he would also by nature have more attacks.
you sometimes get instances where low-fight models have multiple attacks and those can be very strong for the reasons you said (hunter orcs last ed is best example, tho that was the combo of that, being cheap, and critically having S4), but probably even more critical to the difference of F vs A is that once you win the duel, fight value is useless, whereas attacks doubles or triples your damage on top of getting better odds to win.

it's a nicely nuanced system, both fight value and attacks have their purposes, higher attack shines when your opponent is rolling a low number of dice in general, or is trapped, whereas fight shines best in a battle line or on big grenade heroes. get a shieldwall of elves and all the hunter orcs in the world aren't gonna make it, but tag get two goblins trapping an elf and it's not looking so good. conversely, you can totally surround elessar and there's still a pretty decent chance he's just going to rip them all to shreds anyways.

>>96751454
>basement crawl
Really playing into the nerd basement dweller archetype huh

>>96759187
>troonhammer

>>96762181
Etsy is a funny place. Lots of proxy minis and terrain for GW haters that are 30% more expensive.

>>96736072
they still do, they're in armies of middle-earth book
they're an interesting piece of tech, probably not highly competitive choices based on what they do for the lists they go into but monster improvements, drum and saruman combo could all have their uses

>>96731613
Why the fuck would you take a standard bearer in a unit of 6 fucking models even in WFB, let alone a skirmish game? This army effectively has one list kek

>>96764797
Because a) it's a cool looking mini and 2. its contagion rule will debuff enemies while saving you command points.

>>96763660
Better to start a league with two valks and one zerk than the other way around?

>>96763261
>>96763391
You're a nigger lover so your insults aren't worth shit.

>>96718561
Because the setting and the realm of ghyran are cool.
>>96756913
you're delusional.

>>96761991
>>96763158
>>96763261
>>96763391
I notice how that when this arguent occurs every now and then, the anon who has painted the miniatures NEVER comes back with "I painted them black because I'm black" because that isn't a thing, so anon has reason to call it out, positive racism is also racism, if you aren't black don't touch black culture, simple as.

>brown women bad
xitter take

Let's all guess when BB S3 is coming out

>>96767423
I mean it has to be next weekend right? It can’t be 40K again

>>96767175
>just spawn nigger mutts goy!
jidf take.

>see an elf painted after retro depictions of dark elves
>NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT NIGGER COCK AHHHHHHHHHHHH DON'T BURN MY COAL PLEEEEASE!!!!!!!
if you can't understand how this is different than painting an empire army brown then you're just really stupid

>>96767739
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>96767546
>I hate white boy summer
sorry, Ranjeesh, you should go back to r*ddit. and that is where our dialogue ends

>>96767800
>obsessed with jeet and nigger cocks
Hopeless. Bothered. Unmoisturized.

>>96766904
I dont even give a shit about the models, this mental case actually confused Pirotess for a photoshop of Deedlit, there's no fucking hope for him to live a normal life, people pass him as he walks down the street and wonder how he's whistling so loudly with his mouth clamped shut.

>>96767960
>I dont even give a shit about the models,
Yeah we can tell by how you painted them, you chose to stir shit for exactly this reaction just so you could be an SJW champion.

>>96767984
NTA but can you stop ruining the thread with your psycho niggerbabble i want to talk about boodbowl

>>96768083
>NTA
transparent samefagging, bit off more than you could handle?

>>96768124
Oh wowee, you can use mspaint!?

Alright, guys. Field trips over. Give me your favorite and least favorite bloodbowl teams

>>96768285
I don't play Blood Bowl.

>>96768285
>favorite to play
Pro Elves, or maybe Underworld (any version, though I've played most with pre-2020 roster)

>favorite to play against
Slann, I think?

>least favorite to play
I'd probably do just fine with them but I have absolutely 0 desire to play Lizardmen. Honorable mention to Dark Elves for being the most boring agility team.

>least favorite to play against
Dark Elves, for being the most boring agility team!

>>96768285
I really love Chaos Renegades but they're ass to play, bad linemen, bad positionals.

The reward is 3 big guys but big guys are terrible.


If we're going with traditional teams that are good at bloodbowl my hot take us that lizards are overrated and as boring as dwarfs if not more boring.


I really enjoy playing humans vs orcs, either side. It's a classic matchup pitting movespeed vs strength

>>96768285
Chaos Halflings, Clan Pestilens, Slayers.

>>96768418
Delves get a bad rap for being so dominant but they're a lot more flexible than welves. Like the woodies repeat the same game plan every game and they're so good at it you can't force them into any alternate play patterns.

Delves get some degree of differentiation with their 4 blitzers they're going to war on different turns according to playstyle and assassins / witches mix up how the turns unfold

>>96768900
That's nice but nobody plays them in exciting or flexible ways, they buy their 4 blitzers and maybe they buy a witch or a runner and then their team is complete! The fucking conversation for development is over the moment an AG4 team gets 4 blitzer pieces, because that's what 90% of coaches will build for.

>>96768835
>human linemen
>bad
you even get a free orc for the line of scrimmage, what's not to love?

What models am I suppose to use for Giant Rats in Mordheim?

>>96771874
browse etsy

>>96771874
Giant Rats are staple in every RPG game. You just need to goolge and you'll find dozens of different minis.
If you don't want to spend too much money you can check out the Reaper Bones ones. Warhammer tends to be kinda fucked up and warpstone tainted, so maybe the Table-top art ones are the better flavor as they look mutated. You can get all sorts of undead giant rats as well.

>What models am I suppose to use
if this is more of a historical "what did they use in the original game" question then check out the old Skaven range. A lot of the sprues had random extras.

>>96771874
How easy is it for noobs to learn mordheim?
Do we need a shit ton of terrain pieces?
Is there an edition of the rules edited by fans that most players generally use?

>>96773745
Broheim has the rules. There isn't and doesn't need to be a fan edit, the rules aren't bloated. There are fan made warbands which are generally community accepted.
Most people say 5 buildings are the minimum for a good table. The game is designed with verticality and terrain density in mind.

Do any of you read White Dwarf and can comment if issue 510 is worth it for the MESBG content? Is there a PDF somewhere?

>>96774011
>510

https://litter.catbox.moe/v90e1ckg3xfx7mc5.pdf

>>96713330 (OP)
James Wokeslop says that it's "unlikely" for my Lothlorien elves to fight a big hobbit horde, but have they never considered that beating up Hobbits would be fun and that the elves might like to give it a shot before they leave forever. This is a joke btw, beating up people smaller than you is bullying and it's not fun. Also Galadriel wouldn't want to hurt a bunch of cute little hobbits.

>>96774451
>beating up people smaller than you is bullying and it's not fun
Incorrect!
I am a big fan of beating on someone smaller than me if I catch them beating on or abusing someone smaller than they are, it's perfectly fair and reasonable.

>>96773836
Thanks, brudda. I'm still learning the ropes of BB and building my team, but Mordheim is the next GW game I want to learn (if I can get my friends to come along)

>>96774577
>if I catch them beating on or abusing someone smaller than they are
That's just justice though, and the fun part is inflicting irony on someone who deserves it. In this case it'd be like if hobbits were beating up on something smaller than them. Like fairies or something, I can't think of many things smaller than hobbits.

>>96774096
Thank you, brother. Is there still a repository?

I make too many Necromunda gangs.

Right now for no reason I'm building Krieg kits with mostly Necromunda-centric equipment loadouts. I already have Cadians, Brood Brothers, Kasrkin, Traitor Guardsmen and Helots built in ways that they work as Venator or proxy gangs. I also have every other name brand gang. I'm truly a cooked individual.

>>96774707
If you think you're spending too much money find another hobby, preferably free, that you can enjoy. Most parks have chess sets and people willing to play chess with strangers, for example. If it's not a money thing try getting proxy models, Etsy is a good site for finding proxy modelers, though I'd suggest buying directly off their website if they have one.

>>96774734
I appreciate the good faith advice, although it isn't really either of those things.

I look at my stuff and think, "Will I ever reach the implied goal of having made all this; playing a campaign of significant length with each of these gangs?" And the answer is a loud, laughable NO. So what was the point? Having objects is a scam.

>>96774758
It's fun to build and paint.

>>96774758
I might be misstepping again, but it reads like you got into Necromunda either without a sufficient playerbase in your area or without a defined plan for your gang. Does that read well to you? Either way, you might have to start your own group at a LGS or by some other means.

If you feel like you have too much; I got into Warcry by buying a bunch of the pre-made kits with the goal of having plenty of options for friends if they ever want to try the game. So if you feel like you have too many gangs, you could probably find a varnish you trust and let your friends use your models?

>>96774786
I got into OG Necromunda with a group of friends somewhere in the 2005-2015 range and played a lot back then. We were still in touch when Newcromunda came out, and got a couple of very good campaigns in (I think for the first one I was using kitbashed Khardron Overlords as a Van Saar gang because the new Van Saar hadn't released yet... yet another proxy gang I forgot lmao). But since the covid shakeup that friend group has fallen apart, so you're correct that I don't have a viable playgroup right now.

Necromunda seems kind of brutal to get going at an LGS because of the amount of terrain I'd need to schlep (or leave there and basically donate).

I am kind of interested in Warcry desu. The main thing that turned me away was the assumption that you have to keep up with the official missions, layouts and terrain sets to play pubs.

>>96774838
>The main thing that turned me away was the assumption that you have to keep up with the official missions, layouts and terrain sets to play pubs.

https://warcry.zuckerrausch.de/

This site has the battleplan that you can generate for games. But you can also just set up whatever terrain you like, it's not a game that require lots of terrain, mostly just 2 platforms, then some walls and obstacles. Having more terrains just make it harder for people to get stuck in melee, which is what you want to do most of the time.

>>96774932
Also Warcry shooting sucks. Regarding range and lethality.
Having an open board doesn't actually make shooting gangs a huge threat, it's more it's a less interesting board to play on.

Most people aren't autistic about the terrain maps, using the official cards is good just for variety. But you can use whatever

>>96774707
stop using current, GW-supported rules. you often don't realize how constant and subtle their "must buy new shiny" manipulation is until you break away from it.
try playing with the fan maintained oldcromunda rules, or a model-agnostic indy equivalent like This Is Not A Test or Stargrave. focus on the hobby and projects that you personally find rewarding instead of chasing a carrot.

Requesting scans of the Cursed City: Nightwars and Cursed City: Nemesis rulebooks please and thank you.

>>96776714
My group plays with the new rules but house rules to make it more fun/encourage hobby.
No rules around power gaming as everyone self regulates fortunately

>>96777994
Which makes me think, what house rules do you play with?
What house rules do you love?

We have 1 which is to help hobby and also make advancements a little bit quicker. Once a model is fully painted it gains D3 EXP.
We have an MVP per side per game who gets a bonus D3 EXP. Chosen by the opponent based on who does cool shit.
Have a weekly creds cap so you can keep advancing but it slows you down so it's not all plasma all the time

>>96776714
>stop using current, GW-supported rules. you often don't realize how constant and subtle their "must buy new shiny" manipulation is until you break away from it
Is it that bad with Necromunda? I’ve been playing Palanites in my current campaign and I was dreading the potential for power creep with the new book
Now that I’ve got my hands on the rules, I’m pleasantly surprised. The gang plays pretty much as before, stats are slightly better with a cost bump to even it out
My only gripe is that I wish they left the option to buy subjugator gear for Captains, the two minis I converted for my gang leader both use the Subjugator as a base

>>96778434
>The gang plays pretty much as before
Enforcers are much stronger with stronger stat and removal of "tax gears" so people can bring in more bodies and better gears than before, a generally much better list, and much better end game because stubgun no longer occupied 1 weapon slot.

And they played much different than before, they was a "pest gang" in a campaign, they can put some dent to a gang but they lack the power to compete for the top spot. But then Badzone Enforcers got introduced, that function more like a normal gang, this lead to the rise of "badzone cop is the normal cop" bro that just bring them everywhere, which is cringe and make no fucking sense. So designer just said fuck it and now make normal enforcers a normal gang. This, however come with a negative consequence : a campaign can now have 2 or more enforcer gangs, they were made mediocre on purpose to discourage that from happen.

>>96776714
That's a fully schizo reaction to me. The new rules play better than the old rules, and the new models look better than the old models. Not to mention that if the problem is "finding people to play with" you're going to attract more normal, decent, functioning people by playing the new version vs. skint stinking autistic grogs playing some old version.

>>96778036
>What house rules do you love?
- common TP items can be bought during gang construction
- no more than 2 copies of any Special/Heavy weapon per gang
- boltguns count as Special for above
- no more than 2 copies of any Rare equipment (unless it's on your House list)
- weapons and equipment may move freely between a fighter and the stash as a post-battle action per fighter
- +1XP for surviving a battle, +1XP for winning leader, +1XP for putting an enemy OOA
- can't roll for House Favours unless at least one other gang is 100+ ahead of you in rating
- can execute a capture fighter as long as one Rescue mission has already occurred
- Sentry rules semi-rewritten
- reinforcements count for Bottle test numbers
- Stray Shots only hit on a 1
- Scenarios are rolled from a custom list that includes many of the sourcebook missions
- can't win a game via bottling out and accidentally preventing your opponent from completing an objective
- Tactics card are assembled into a deck and drawn before games (and a few cards are banned)

>>96780380
>normal, decent, functioning people by playing the new version vs. skint stinking autistic grogs
Sounds like code for trannies and fags vs actual gamers.

>>96781210
True

>>96780380
>and the new models look better than the old models.
You shut your whore mouth!

>>96781343
I think anon meant the 3rd party stuff which is the newest stuff there is.

>>96781210
And you sound like nogames if you think that contrarian, argumentative grogs fried on nostalgianyl and chasing their fartsoaked childhood desires are the optimal people to play with.

I don't think most trannies are functional. A lot of fags are, though, they're welcome. But I'm more talking about the slightly slow-witted but polite guys named Chris who think two beers is their limit, have a 4.5/10 wife and just welcomed their first kid into the world, and will impractically give their leader two different guns because it seems cool.

My dad works at GW and here are all the season 3 changes for bloodbowl!!
>Only one instance of guard when calculating assists
>leap now offers an innate reroll
>special actions that lead to casualties award SPP
>Block only works during your turn
>Defensive moved to General
>Leader rerolls are on a +2
>Sneaky git allows you to move after fouling again
>Skaven gain access to bribery and corruption

Some of you are really annoying.

>>96781436
Oddly specific, chris, you faggot.

>>96782254
I bet chris and his hambeast "wife" (w/ feminine penis) probably share a boyfriend.

>>96781602
I just got here.

>>96781436
>normal men are meek, safely inoffensive and effeminate
(((You))) can GTFO

>>96782470
Is that an anti-semitism?

>>96781436
Careful friend- it almost sounds like you're speaking from personal experience of regularly playing games with other people! That's not the 4chan Truth now is it? Remember, everyone's either a pitiful yet powerfully malicious left-wing tranny or a tall, Conanesque Trve Gamer who splits a woman's lip with every dramatic cast of the dice from his- and it is always a his!- avenging fist.

>>96781462
>Block only works during your turn
god i fucking hope not that's terrible

>>96783219
Is the prior comment a loxism?

More lizards for Mordheim

why hasn't there been a release date yet? are they stupid?

>>96785846
Yes and so are you because you haven't figured out that no one else cares

>>96785846
Never attribute to stupidity what you can blame on malice.

>>96787475
"are they stupid" is a reddit batman game meme.

I'm undefeated through 4 rounds in my local BB league and in first place with 2 wins and 2 draws with my skaven team. I out bashed an orc team this week so if u want to be good like me just roll double sixes for armor and injury rolls

>>96787537
I don't play Blood Bowl.

>>96780380
that's never been my experience with gwsg games. the communities that are doing shit around the community edition dedgames are overwhelmingly more chill and normal than the LGS lurkers mindlessly gobbling up whatever unbalanced mess of a game GW happens to be shitting out today.

Can anyone confirm how many autoguns come in the squat box? The webstore description says two but to my eye it looks like it's two per sprue and the box should come with two sets of the sprue for four total.

>>96789898
You get 4 autoguns.

>>96789946
That's what I thought, wanted to confirm. Cheers anon.

>>96785846
likely to be previews next week since they said they will show off new rules on War Comm this week, and GW doesn't really have anything else to release except the Christmas boxes

>>96787537
I wanted to play BB3 this afternoon but rage quit because my kick off formation was retarded and I followed up with a dumbass move and now I'm banned for 12 hours

>>96785846
Because it's pointless to put a release date until you can actually buy the thing. It's probably sometime November because GW doesn't do releases in December. My money is on Nov 28th because GW doesn't do Black Friday deals

>>96774673
No because assclowns act like babies and complain about how long it takes for people to upload new files, then they get called fags, the retaliation? Report the repo. TG has no more repos now

>>96768979
Skill progression doesn't make any team exciting or interesting, it's always block, dodge, guard, tackle, MB.

There are no other skills. Throw away your previous ideas about taking fun skills and embrace the game for what it is, chess with dice rolls and failure points.

My point is that with 4 blitzers people have more flexibility about when they're going to crash into your cage and pressure, and how they pressure. There's so many different ways you can position the delf team on defense and offence to get good results.

Woodies with only the 2 dancers are always going to do elf columns until you're slightly out of position then they'll leap in and pray to knock the ball loose. They cannot do any other strategies, they cannot go to war, they cannot base and bash. Same with pro elves.

>>96791797
>Because it's pointless to put a release date until you can actually buy the thing

>>96791880
I love newby bitches like you that seethe and rage when I play 2 frenzy assassins.

>>96788533
I dunno, this post starts to read like fake news when I actually begin thinking about the specifics.

Mordheim/Battlefleet do not have updated versions so you can't be talking about them.

The Necromunda update is better than the original. Both are unbalanced, but the new version has much more variety within that imbalance. So you can't be talking about that.

Blood Bowl's update barely changed the rules, and came with amazing plastic kits. Don't know why you'd be talking about that.

Underworlds/Warcry don't have dead/community versions, cannot be talking about that.

So what the fuck are you talking about with "your experience?" You're a Kill Team purist that likes to play the boring old version(s) that were barely games? Nice!

>>96792002
Okay james you earned your days pay for shilling the narrative, now fuck off.

I scored two TDs and 5 cassualties. Very good start for my dwarf team, you can tell because they're the very tall and not small guys on square bases

>>96792623
>playing with a faggot
NGMI

>>96792623
What are these figures

>>96792655

https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/classic-fantasy-battles/products/dwarven-host

Dwarves, It's an ok kit. if you can see the shields are comically thick.

Anyway, there's also good orcs. I dunno. I wanted to fuck around and do a gimmick + I prefer 32mm squares.

>>96792053
Ahhhh, the Eastern Spotted Nogames, encountered in it's natural habita/tg, where it survives via a combination of scavenging the scraps of other peoples' play experiences and eating its own droppings.

>>96792985
I've played more games than your mother has turned tricks, which is a lofty fucking achievement.

>>96793159
So you're still sitting at <1. You went to a "Learn to Play _______" night at an LGS but ran out in angry tears partway through the tutorial. Ought point three games played, eleven thousand posts made.

>>96793527
>Me mums not a whore!
Denial is the first step.

How do I get food at blood bowl and fast

>>96793923

I mean you just have to keep playing. what team do you have? its much, much easier to tell you how to get good at a team than it is to get good at blood bowl.

for bb generic, you need to learn how to break apart cages and you need to learn to not base up against squishy guys. I guess. *shrug*

>>96781602
>>96781602
>>96781602

How many models do I need to play Necromunda? I was looking at getting a box if mostly to try using bits for Heresy, so I figure I might take a nosy.

>>96794314
Each game need around 6-9 fighters, a gang will have around 12 fighters to account for the injured, +3 on everything for Cawdor.

There're also other optional add-on to gang like Hired guns, hanger-on, brutes, alliances.

>>96794323
So basically, roughly about two gang boxes and then some depending on what weapon options someone might want? Makes sense. Orlock looks cool but I was planning on nicking shotguns from the Enforcers.

>>96794472
>roughly about two gang boxes
It depends on gang. Orlock usually go gang + wrecker + upgrade and that's pretty much it. They had the most complete kits in the entire game.

>>96794520
Sounds good, suppose I'll look into it a bit more.

>>96794472
>>96794520
>>96794323
>>96794314

You could also do gang + specialist box or gangers on like Ambots etc.
If anyone dies you can recycle models if you want.
Also gangs vary, you can lean into a more elite gang if you want. Besides Cawdor who are the horde house.

Hello sirs I would like to play boodbowl because it looks fun. Other than the upcoming starter box is there anything I can do to get involved?

>>96795840
Find where blood bowl is being played in your area and watch some games

>>96795840
The videogames are an instantaneous way to get involved. Unlike every other GW videogame these are just a 1:1 translation of the tabletop game.

>>96793923
If your LGS doesn't sell chips and soda you can try running to the nearest goyslop dispensary or gas station, though "running" may be asking too much.