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No Card Games For Old Geezers edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>tq
What's your favorite UB/UW set made after 2020?

>TQ
UB: lotr
UW: guess

>>96719262 (OP)
>UB
Final Fantasy
>UW
Neon Dynasty or Tarkir Dragonstorm

Lost Caverns was really cool too

https://moxfield.com/decks/-jNmnfC_IUOKti2Kk24jDg
I wanna fit Dread Return and 2 more Counterspells in. What three cards would you remove? Also any potential upgrades of cards that are just outright better or anything else in the considering section worth putting in?

>>96719262 (OP)
>UB
Baldur’s Gate or the Warhammer Precons
>UW
Brother’s War or Kaldheim

>UB
Final Fantasy
>UW
Duskmourn

I also really liked Tarkir: Dragonstorm, Lost Caverns of Ixalan and March of the Machines (mainly because we got to see Ikoria and Theros again)

>>96719262 (OP)
>UW
Dominaria or Brother's War
>UB
Assassin's Creed. The set is extremely slept on because it's the shitty aftermath style but the cards in it are really nice.

>one dollar
I am vindicated.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>Put an Enlightened counter on a hexproof/indestructible Forest (Life//Death and Maskwood Nexus)
>One guy instantly scoops
>The two other guys keep playing it out with no idea why he just did that
DEVILISH

>>96719262 (OP)
TQ:
>UB
LotR
>UW
Brother's War

I still wanna make decks out of the meld urza/mishra been putting that off for so long

>>96719425
This combo is my favourite wincon in the whole game

I’m going to lose it if you keep misusing Universes Within to mean in-universe

UW is very specifically reprinting UB with legally distinct names and art

>>96719486
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV is my favorite UW card =)

>>96719425
my go-to deck has a way to beat this

How hard would it be to build a monoblack aggro deck using cards I can get for about 25-50 cents each?
I have RG, WG, and UG decks and my bag holds four deck boxes so I want something black and really hate BG. I generally hate black overall but Gix is monoblack Edric and I like Edric. Plus most of the 1-mana flying/deathtouch creatures in black are only a couple cents. A lot of black staples are like $1-$2 each though and I don't wanna spend $100 on a single deck.

Is it possible to make a reanimator deck using pic rel and the available Manifest Dread cards?

>>96719511
You would need that plus basic land removal, and they would need to not have a secondary layer of protection.

>>96719602
sure. i've build mine with a lot of land reanimation because of that

>>96719602
yeah seems pretty straight forward. cheat out cards face down for cheap and then use ashnods altar or something to cast a fatty valgavoth's onslaught or rise of the dark realms or omniscience. blue and black for tutors.

>>96719717
Lost to infect/voltron again because you spent four turns ramping?

>>96719722
id rather lose to an aggro deck that actually wins than a bronze medal chaser.

>>96719722
nta but it is shitty when someone decides they can't win but CAN throw themselves at you to make sure you lose for no reason other than rolling a dice or personal issues. I'm tall, and have a girlfriend that plays and isn't checked out/bad at the game so scrubs try this shit on me constantly out of jealousy at random pods.

>>96719262 (OP)
>What's your favorite UB/UW set made after 2020?
UB: Battle for Baldur's Gate
UW: Foundations/Bloomburrow

Had a real good set of games today at my LGS. Got a win with all 3 of my currently built decks.

>>96719753
wow crazy same. fantasy rocks

>>96719262 (OP)
UB
Fuck off
UW
Ikoria, Lair of Behemoths. Hot take and I realize I'm the bad guy. I love the flavor of fucked up creatures and the complexity of mutate. The companion mechanic is cool and allows for more interesting deckbuilding. I also kinda stopped caring about the lore a long time ago so I dont care about the apparently really bad story at all

>>96719740
>>96719717
I just don't want to be 4th place so if I know I can't beat the player in the lead I'll bring someone down with me

Does this card let you play the card you exiled off the top of your own library without paying its cost?
The wording is a little awkward but I assume you can, right?

>>96719772
>the complexity of mutate
its literally just putting text boxes on text boxes

>>96719811
Yes.

>>96719262 (OP)
>UB
Spider-Man because it was a comically horrible set that got people to wake up to how bad a lot of set design is. Also because it's clear Mark is super invested in Marvel as a property and he's taking its failure extremely personally. I love watching this piggy squirm
>UW
Gay dragon set.

>>96719782
based grudgemaxxer

>>96719772
>The companion mechanic is cool and allows for more interesting deckbuilding

>>96719822
pretty based ngl

>>96719894
>anon doesnt know what a frown is

>>96719762
What decks?

>>96719910
Game 1:
>Golbez (me)
>Y'Shota-Lover
>Hashaton
>Azusa

Game 2:
>Tidus (me)
>Reyhan + Sunmane Familiar
>Giada
>Oloro

Game 3:
>Miirym (me)
>Baylen
>Reyhan + Sunmane
>Giada

Golbez lucked into a Sac Combo, Tidus got so far ahead so early with Tromell and Kami of Whispered Hopes that we just went next, and Miirym ended up recovering from a board wipe and getting Terror of the Peaks and Twinflame Tyrant out.

>>96719603
>Not running spot removal LD
What are you? Bad at magic?

>See someone looking at scryfall during lecture
>Hit them up during break
>See their face and it's obvious tranny
>Still ask a surface-level Magic question because I'm not autistic enough to flame them for being a tranny
>They just shake their head and shuffle off
>They ditch the second half of lecture
MtG player demonstrate social skills challenge: 100% failed guaranteed impossible. (I also failed)

>>96719989
seems dumb considering all the decks whom would run an important land also would run recursion for lands

>>96719989
It's not impossible or even unlikely to have something (Beast Within/Generous Gift are extremely common and work).
However most removal these days can't hit lands unless it's dedicated to it, and even then will usually specify "nonbasic". It's not impossible to out but it's a lot more specific than most decks are prepared for.

>>96719425
So anyway I warp world

>>96720032
>>96720040
Oh, you are bad at magic and poor. That's sad.

>>96719740
No one but you cares about your height anon I assure you. Hot girlfriend, maybe.

You have to 1v1 an optimized Krenko deck or a shitty Yuriko deck. Which one do you choose and why?

>>96720135
Krenko deck cuz it'll be over shortly

>>96720125
>I always have the specific answer for this niche situation. This indicates skill and wealth.

>>96719939
>UBSlop
>UBSlop
>literally the most paint by numbers commander imaginable

>>96720199
Post your decks RIGHT NOW

>>96720217
Auntie Blythe
Shattergang
Coram
Urza

>>96719817
Yeah I know it's not a big deal like some people think it is, it's just fun.

>>96720217
Teneb the Harvester
Sedris, the Traitor King
Arcanis, the Omnipotent
Intet, the Dreamer
Hanna, Ship's Navigator

>>96720217
trip back on

I know there are lots of cards that punish non-basic lands, but are there cards that do punish basic lands? Probably more broad than boil, etc.

>>96720333
[landtype]walk punishes mostly basic lands

Post decks

>>96720297
putting things on cards is degenerate, no good can ever come of such behavior. equipment, mutate, auras, counters, all of it.

>>96720410
What voltron deck got you so mad? its not that hard to pick up a card to remind yourself what something does.

>>96720333
Red has boil/ing seas, flashfires, wake of destruction, omen of fire (banger). Probably more im missing, outside of that acid rain, nature's wrath, tsunami, choke, conversion, mask of intolerance but thats 4/5c dependent.

>>96720116
JUDGE! CRUSH HIS SKULL!

>>96719939
Why do you always have the shittiest taste in commanders

Are there really enough good bird cards to make this little fella viable?

>go play in a rural lgs
>cedh players are socially well adjusted family men that take care of themselves while the obese autistic trannys with bad hygiene play craw
>play in a metro lgs
>cedh players are obese autistic trannys while craw players are socially well adjusted family men
What's the reason for this phenomenon

>>96720621
It's just a landslop commander + tutors for that one chocobo landfall enchantment

>>96720621
yes actually

>>96720629
>>96720638
Whats the enchantment? I built the deck, but only 1/3 of the creatures are birds, and most are just commons and uncommons I took from my collection. Just starting to put the deck together, so I need to know what I should look out for trade.

>couple weeks ago
>pulled apart my deck with my arcane denial in it a while back
>go looking for my arcane denial because I'm building a new blue deck
>not in my blue box
>not in my decks
>not mixed in with my unsorted piles
>friend asks if I even own a copy
>pull up my old online decklists to prove it
>it's not in any of them
>i somehow tricked myself into believing I owned a copy of arcane denial even though I didn't

>today
>go looking for my blossoming defense because I'm building a deck that wants the effect
>not in my green box
>not in my decks
>not mixed in with my unsorted piles
>vividly remember owning one, with the elf and the buckler and the effects and everything
>obviously i own one, it's the only reason I know the piece of shit usually useless card even exists
>vividly remember looking at the card years ago thinking it was useless draft chaff, included it in a bulk bin deck at the time and hadn't thought about it since
>friend asks if I even own a copy because he remembers the arcane denial incident
>haw haw you fucking faggot I can prove I own one because I know exactly where I got it: one came in the 2022 standard starter decks, the gruul one specifically with the thundering raiju
>pull up the official decklist to prove it
>it's not in it
>i somehow tricked myself into believing I owned a copy of blossoming defense even though I didn't, right down to the exact package i got the card from

Why isn't this a gamechanger? This is insane.

>Hey there everyone! Stacey Milfington here at 'True Magicon' '26, with the charming young - er, young at "heart" - gentlemen of 'The Knights Of True Magic', where the attendance is small but the passions are huge!
>What is Magic the Gathering you ask? I don't blame you for not knowing, since this widely played game has had zero cultural impact despite having millions of players and 30 years of sets under its belt. Think of it like Pokemon, but instead of having a playerbase of average age 12 years old who eventually grow up and stop playing, they're 37 on average and they clearly are clearly here to stay!
>In recent years Hasbro, lacking a hit of their own, have begun to license the use of other actually successful franchise's characters and settings in their card game, and this has caused quite the stir in the fan base!
>In fact, it has caused something of a schism, where a minority of the player base calling themselves the "real" Magic fans have split off from the "slop pigs", as this minority has named the majority of the player base who don't have panic attacks about the images on their playing cards.
>These "Knights" now hope to convince Hasbro, a capitalist corporation only interested in profits, to abandon their highly profitable switch to using other franchise's imagery in their 'universes beyond' sets and reverse this trend and stop making cards that appeal to the majority of contemporary nerds.
>Here, let's ask one of these Knights themselves why images on cardboard triggers them so heavily, and what they hope to accomplish to continuing to play a game which is no longer being made for them!

Well, what do you say to Stacey Anon?

>>96720704
>what do you say to Stacey
Can I lick the discharge out of your panties

>>96720199
classic poopdickschizo post

>>96720669
Thundering Raiju is from neon kamigawa anon.

>>96720704
> back left

God dammit
I wanna run Freed from the Real but Unctus is so perfect for this deck

>>96720984
Just don't play the combo ever and it's not a bracket 3 deck
Wizards themselves say intent is what matters

>>96720704
Do you want to do this the easy way or the hard way (the implication is that I am going to sexually assault her with my penis)

>>96720697
spike weaver is way better

>>96719772
Mutate isn't evil, just headache-inducing. On the other hand
>The companion mechanic is cool and allows for more interesting deckbuilding.
Objectively incorrect. Every companion in existence is either completely useless or disgustingly metawarping because they become a tradeoff of whether it's worth cutting good non-compliant cards for the companion's effect. Lurrus remains illegal in every competitive format he's been printed into except Vintage, because as it turns out "(cmc<=2 or not:permanent)" still gives you access to a majority of the best cards in the game and lets you do silly harmless things like getting a free Black Lotus every turn.
Playable companions massacre format diversity because a companion being playable means it's worth cutting non-compliant cards and thus worth shoving those cards out of the meta.
It is THE single biggest design fuckup in the entire game. Nothing has been as destructive, not Affinity or Dredge or One Ring or any of that shit.

>>96720984
I don't get it. What is the combo here?

>>96721075
It genuinely baffles me how they apparently playtested a mechanic that was a worse version of companion some time in the past, but still actually put companion to print as it was. I mean, it should've been a sign that one of the cards with the mechanic being spoiled was almost immediately followed up with it being banned from a format, but I guess not. I'm of the opinion that instead of nerfing the mechanic, they unironically should have just fucking made the mechanic nonfunctional and reprinted errata'd versions of the cards without it. Just completely remove it from the game.

>>96719772
Kinda funny that the Anti-UB magic purist likes the Yugioh set

>>96721075
It's genuinely impressive that BOTH set mechanics for Ikora required functional errata. Mutate to actually make it playable (IIRC the initial printing had a sort of "All the eggs in one basket" deal) and Companion... To also make it playable.
It was just genuinely an awful set from pretty much every perspective

>>96721075
Im sure you're right about all of that but I still think it's fun, I have personally never dealt with any issues with any of them so Im not mad about it. I love Gyruda

>>96719358
I need this for jenova

>>96721122
hey now the cards were cool
Lurrus and Gyruda and Yorion are all v fun cards to play with even to this day. The initial release of the mechanics was hideously botched in a way unsurpassed in basically all of magic's history, sure, but I have a great affection for a bunch of the Ikoria cards- Drannith Magistrate, Omnious Seas, Shark Typhoon, the ultimatums, etc.

>>96721153
This guy gets it.

make ikoria great again

>looking up mutate rulings because of this discussion
>its actual first printing was on Surgeon General Commander
>it has this ruling: "Mutate is a keyword from the future! Unless you’re reading this after it’s been released, in which case it’s … a keyword from the present!. But I suppose you could be reading this in a theoretical future in which the keyword was released, threatened to destroy Magic (as I do occasionally), and removed from the game, in which case it’s… a keyword from the past!"
>actual mutate is from ikoria
>ikoria also had companion
>companion is the closest any keyword has come to "threatening to destroy magic" and needing to be errata'd out of existence
https://youtu.be/bxU2eqZtYmc

Goddamn ikoria was a mess. Build your own monster was a cool idea but all the new mechanics were either hilariously broken or incredibly unintuative. The returning mechanics all felt tacked on and disjointed except for counters and wedges just felt forced.

>>96721185
there were not enough statblocks that served as generic mutates for keywords and a lot of the stat lines were kinda trash due to being able to mutate over. They should re-examine the mechanic because it got greater potential than meld at least

>>96721188
meld is actually peak flavourful and I think they should print more meld tbdesu

>>96721188
Apart from being unituitive for newer players mutate is also a rules nightmare and creates messy boards since everyone has to keep track of all the shit mutated together. If banding was "too confusing" mutate is never coming back

>>96721190
for non commander sure but for commander its wonky as fuck unless you have pretty specific deck. overall i'd say the mechanics i'd like to see revisited are in order: mutate>emerge>meld>craft which coincidently almost all happen to be ygo-lite summon mechanics

Meld is extremely stylish.

>>96721203
set code "BRO" makes me laugh every time

They should make the post-human Yawgmoth into a card, it's crazy that the biggest villain in MTG history only has one card and it's his weakest form.

>>96721227
>wanting modern wotc to touch a yawggod card after botching new phyrexians for being "too icky"
He would either be broken as fuck or unplayable with the most sanitized corporate art you can imagine. At this point let him stay an unimaginably powerful god

>>96721255
>botching new phyrexians for being "too icky"
what?

>>96721203
lord high artificer is cool and strong and all but this will always be the definitive urza to me
no other card captures what a pre-Mending planeswalker should feel like

Man the printings for this are either trans color hair goblin or this monstosity.

What the fuck was the art team thinking for this set.

>>96721227
You can't print a Yawg card because it's impossible to make a card OP enough to be Yawg. He's the Morgoth of Magic.
Give him pseudo-ward or an emblem that makes you immune to all an opponent's effects unless they pay 5c and that might be a start.

>>96721288
He's mad about the Alabaster Host designs not being gory enough in MOM

>>96721410
>Give him pseudo-ward or an emblem that makes you immune to all an opponent's effects
This is literally hexproof dingus.

>>96721410
They could make him a 17 mana giganigga that's very difficult to cheat out, at that point they might as well put anything they want on him.

>>96721415
No, Hexproof prevents targeting. I'm talking something that blocks Farewell, damage, negative toughness, Cyc Rift, literally anything an opponent could do to affect your cards at all. It's actually kind of hard to do with the templating that exists.

>>96721425
Yeah the Phage clause is a must-have

>>96721355
>look up original art
>not even close to the right shade of either pink or blue
Nigger how are you this desperate to be a victim
DFT is a fugly set but if you look at this and see trannies you're more mentally ill than the axewounds are

Card I want finally gets a non-foil reprint but it's a bonus sheet abomination.

>>96721466
Hating foils is weird you can just fix the bend

>>96721470
Unless the foiling comes with an ultra premium quality artwork I just prefer non-foils because they are hassle free.

>>96721203
One of my favorite decks. I just have as many of the "P/T equal to artifacts in play" and hit with big number.

Wish I could find someone in my area to sell/trade me a phyrexian altar, ordering expensive cards is such a hassle and kinda stressful with how abysmal german mail has become.

I AM ANGRY
ANGRY ABOUT UNIVERSES BEYOND

>>96719262 (OP)
>UB
Doctor Who if counting decks. Unironically Spider-Man if just full sets.
>UW
I'd have to look at a list of all the UW sets since 2020.

thoughts on my Balmor deck?

https://moxfield.com/decks/1gpNB-2WSUmf4f1dMVDofQ

>>96721428
isn't that just protection from player?

>>96721702
No, protection from X prevents targeting, blocking and damage. It doesn't do shit against untargeted effects that don't do damage e.g. wrath.

>>96719262 (OP)
>UB
D&D thing
>UW
New Capenna

>UB
If I have to pick, probably AFR or CLB..

>UW
Kaldheim. In particular, I liked the blue giants.

If I have multiple triggers that occur at the same time do I get to choose the order that they resolve in?

>>96721760
yes.

>>96721762
>have bria riptide rogue out
>have young pyromancer
>cast a lightning bolt
>bria gives all my creatures prowess
>young pyromancer creates a 1/1 token when i cast an instant or sorcery
>lightning bolt triggers YP to make the 1/1 token
>bria gives it prowess
>the token becomes a 2/2
>bolt resolves

is this legal?

>>96721820
No, bolt is already on the stack. Prowess triggers on a cast.

Oink
Oink

>>96720704
I would say just because a bunch of flies fly around shit doesn't mean shit is good. Besides this sort of passive-aggressive discourse is extremely jewish, which explain the current state the game is in.

>>96722016
HE DID THE THING!

>>96722016
That is Haram

>>96721084
You can probably put Freed from the Real in literally any deck and it'll somehow spit out that it's part of an infinite combo, that card goes infinite with a spoon and a sandwich.

Bros..... tonight my deck did not do the thing

>>96720704
>balding or super long nappy hair
>onions beards or really really long hobo beards
>fat
>portruding guts
>tight graphic tees
>dark wash jeans/cargo shorts
>tennis shoes/trainers
>30 or 40 something years old

What is it with MTG players and the /tg/ crowd in general that makes them all look like this??

>>96719425
does oblivion ring still hose hexproof/shroud? I remember back in the day (2009) people would say that oblivion ring could take out an emrakul

>>96722240
No because:
>It's a land
>It's hexproof
It gets around Emrakul because she specifically has protection from spells, and o-ring is an etb ability.

>>96722240
You're describing yourself, anon. Try projecting less hard next time.

>>96722200
>deck doesn't do the thing
>still win

All went better than expected.

>>96720669
I mean this sincerely. Get better sleep.

>>96722043
Squeal you fat sow.

>>96720591
Miirym was kind of a try-out, I swapped Ureni over to try and see how it played. My dragon deck needs a lot of optimization, or to be scrapped and built differently. The other two are AWESOME I have no idea what you're on about

I need some religious themed swamps for my Orzhov deck. I found a few which feature some kind of ruins but nothing really fits. I want to avoid graveyard themed swamps cause the deck isnt about reanimation but more about faith, gods and stuff.

Is pic related the best I can do or do you have a better suggestion?

>>96722458
Graveyards are literally the oldest religious tradition in human history. Ritualistic Burial is one of, if not the first thing we ever did that showed we were growing outside intelligence.

>>96722473
>i dont want thing
>but you should want thing
the modern internet in a nutshell.

>>96722473
This is an incorrect post dont listen to it.

>>96722481
He's not wrong, though
Graveyards are the intersection of faith and death
If you've got a faith & gods themed deck I can understand not wanting swampy swamps, but graveyards? Right up there with catacombs in terms of religious death-related locations.

>>96722458
Why not make your own if you can't find what you're looking for??

>>96722458
I don't think there's any better art than the one you posted for what you're looking for

>>96722458
why not just use the stained glass lands?

>>96722481
>I don't want thing because [[extremely uneducated and false premise]]
>you should want thing because [[extremely on theme and related premise]]
fix'd, retard.

Graveyards do not hold inherently religious significance im sorry this is an ahistoric view. Nor are they a religious tradition in nature.

>thinking of finally getting around to pick up some upgrade for my shitty old equipment deck
>basically every decent equipment that wasn't reprinted in FF has shot up 100% or more over the last couple of months
>shadowspear up to $50 from $20, bitterthorn up to 25 from 10 etc.
>all so you can put it in your shitty pet deck that caps out at bracket 2 because it is a fundamentally weak strategy
Is there anybody who suffers for their art as much as we equipmentfags do?

>>96722587
Burying the dead at all is a form of ritual. It's hard to find a culture that doesn't have some kind of religious practice involved with the handle of their dead.

When I get buried it's cus I don't want my corpse rotting in the street, not because of some fanfic about a brown person in a desert 2000 years ago

>>96722458
>not swamp or graveyard, but not very religious
duskmourn swamp
mkm swamp
a few of the jumpstart swamps
>city and buildings, eerie atmosphere
new capena swamps
war of the spark swamp
multiple ravnica swamps
forgotten realms swamp

honorable mention of this specific swamp, as the entirety of amonket was religious . That swamp is probably the best for what you want, other swamps have ruins that *may* be old religious buildings but could also be anything else

>>96722601
the watermark lands make it pretty clear what you are looking at.

>>96722599
I agree

>>96722587
You sir, are a deeply uneducated and stupid person. I'm sorry your schooling failed you.

>first seat
>T1 island Mystic Remora
>after THREE whole turns only one non creature spell was cast, a fucking rampant growth

Why this fish is so expensive? I hate reddit for tricking me into buying this shit.

>>96722600
can you post your faggot shit somewhere else and not edh

>>96722592
Enchantress. So many of our cards hover around $5-$10 just because they’re so splashable. So when you want 20-30 of the fuckers for your enchantress deck it all adds up

>>96722654
>literally stopped anyone from playing fucking anything for 3 turns
>W-WHY IS THIS GOOD?

>>96722685
>one of the best archetypes
>suffers for its art
fuck off, retard

>>96722696
I never see anyone else at my lgs playing enchantress

>>96722689
No its not good, faggot

It stopped ME from playing the game too. Because i had to pay the fucking cumulative upkeep ON curve

I was the first people to lose that game btw

>>96722654
>played fish on curve
rumao

>>96722654
>>T1 island Mystic Remora
This is how you know it's bait.

>>96722592
man am i fucking glad i got like 3 of them on prerelease and EU prices being way less volitile and prone to buyouts

>>96722685
doesnt the commander master's deck come with most of them? and i still see it available for around a ~100eur
>>96722710
because in pure enchantments its fucking boring as fuck and sagas are 15min turns with minimal impact

>>96722240
>does oblivion ring still hose hexproof/shroud
Does it target? If yes, then it doesn't work.

>>96722587
Graveyards are derived from churchyards anon.
It's cemeteries that are not religious.

>>96722772
Seeing people losing their minds that an uncommon from Stronghold spiked to a zillion dollars while MKM still has it at 2 euro is always fun.

>>96722654
>>96722712
good morning sir we do not do redeeming noncreatures ok? ok

I put my decks on a shelf next to the window. Commanders are facing outwards in transparent boxes. Will the sun bleach and ruin my cards?

>>96722684
Uh oh, ameri-meltie!

>>96722993
Over a long enough period of time, yes

TMNT stuff's being shown off, Commander stuff first. Every Turtle has the same partner ability but Leo's meant to be the 'main' one.

>>96723085
That is actually so fucking embarrassing
imagine being a grown man excited for this
what next, thomas the tank engine expansion?

>>96723085
They didn't show what Mutagen is.

>>96723085
I despise this trend of every UB IP having a 5c or sans-B commander so Timmy can run all of the protagonists from the IP in the same deck.

>>96723122
It's definitely a UB thing yes retard

>>96723144
There's really not that many in-universe tribes that do this. I can think of maybe 7 or 8 in universe tribes with a bespoke 5c legends, and most are things that are established as already being 5c tribes (slivers, elementals, etc). Check back in they make a bespoke 5c merfolk, goblin, etc.

>>96723144
nta but it pretty much is. Basically every UB has one but a lot of the most popular tribes (vampires, angels, dinosaurs, etc) don't.

>>96723085
>>96723117
I vomit.

>>96721439
>i checked the hex codes! you're mentally ill, CHUD!!

>>96723144
They had to do that for Eldrazi because they're fucking devoid, you retard.

>>96723213
devoid is a reddit mechanic

OH NONONONONONONONO

>>96723117
Keyword counter token, maybe just counters.

>>96723219
FUCK, she's actually a pretty good draw engine too. This one's gonna sting.

>>96723209
Please consider being less brown in the future

>>96723117
>>96723085
>your LGS is going to get atleast one new obese insufferable autist playing a turtles deck that doesn't understand or care about anything else in magic and has a melt down when people use kill spells on their shit
Just like with spooderman, final tranny and dr whomst've before them

>>96723219
It's always the ginger women

>>96723219
>THEY ACTUALLY MADE HER BLACK
HAHAHAHAHAHA NO FUCKING WAY
SOMEONE SAID IT IN THE LAST THREAD
I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE
I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO WAY THEY COULD BLACKWASH HER WHEN SHE HAS AN ESTABLISHED CHARACTER DESIGN

AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>AT LEAST UB ISN'T WOKE LIKE IN-UNIVERSE SETS!
HAHAHAHHAA

>>96723219
>member berries faggots kicked right in the nuts by trannies of the coast

>>96723219
My sides
Let the chimpout begin

>>96723236
I don't know what you're talking about anon, O'Neil has always been a strong African name

>>96723238
>SHE HAS AN ESTABLISHED CHARACTER DESIGN
she has like eight
this isn't even the first time she's been black

>>96723244
>yet another generic UB wubrg tribal pay off commander to make Timmy buy another booster box to complete his meme deck

>>96723253
Her original appearance was a vague ethnicity with some black features and Eastman considered her mixed-race (though Laird said she was white). She's basically whatever look they want as long as she's a token human woman friend of the turtles.

>>96723257
OK the different art styles thing os actually kinda cool.

Hope we get a UW version because its not a bad card.

>>96723244
Thanks, I hate it so fucking much.
>TRIBAL 5C DO THING DRAW CARD COMMANDER
>OH, BUT ONLY ONCE PER TURN
It's so fucking uninspired and boring and FUCK I'M GETTING MAD

>>96723257
>WISHES ARE COMING TO COMMANDER BABYYYYYY
Buy buy buy!

>>96723277
Are you kidding it looks like shit
There's not even any rhyme or reason behind it it's just HEY LOOK AT THESE THINGS YOU RECOGNISE

dubs picks the commander I build a deck around for my new casual pod

>>96723311
ertai the corrupted

>>96723257
>>96723277
>>96723300
It almost definitely means they're going to lean into the multiverse shit with Marvel products going forwards. Not sure why they didn't do it with Spider-Man, but here it is

>>96723219
I would say that I'll avoid this general for a week, but I don't think the shitstorm will be over before then. How long is there between the rage about this dying down, and there being a new raceswapped slopper to be angry about? Thats when I will try and come back.

>>96723300
Its a cool way to show different versions of a character interacting with one another.

Sorry for enjoying the 1 kernel of corn in this pile of shit I guess.

>>96723277
>>96723288
>>96723299
>>96723300
>>96723311

>>96723288
It's to a player, so you can triple proc it in commander. Which should be easy considering the vigilance trample menace haste bullshit

>>96723311
You got the dubs so I guess you pick.
Although my vote would be pic related

>>96723333
Checked

>>96723333
impressive

>>96723233
>i'm not the mentally ill one, bluesky said i'm on the right side of history! um, you're brown, CHUD!!

>>96723363
I'll pray for you

>>96723219
They really can't help themselves, huh? All of the April designs and they go with this one?

>>96723311
Shit load of dubs going in this thread, I'm taking a second turn at this. Enjoy one of the most directionless tribes

>>96723333
Quads checked

>>96723311
Rollin

>>96723322
>Most of the legendaries in Spider-Man are characters from across the Multiverse.
>They didn't lean into it.
What?

>>96723299
Anon this is a standard releases and not the first time wish effects have been in standard

>wotc doubling down on multiverse shit 5 years after it went out of style
>wotc doubling down on gaudy tie-ins as fortnite declines, and CoD 180s away from it due to declining players
>wotc doubling down on ~luxury~ versions of product mere months before the biggest economic downturn of our lives
So, who's gonna buy WotC/Hasbro when this shit implodes? Disney?
Pic directed at Mark Rosewater, I know you read these threads.

>>96723371
this isnt a tribal card, this is gruul big boards

>>96723378
Lean into it by characterizing multiverse travel as wishes, retard

>>96723334
Okay sure, but it's still a lame as fuck, completely uninspired "here's your mandatory 5c tribal commander auto-build" card and kind of display the level of design jotc is going to operate on during 2026.

>>96723311
Tergrid, but the backside.

>>96723370
They're clearly doing their own incarnation, so to speak, and April's often been this design lately (and it riffs off her original design too, albeit with red hair and the jumpsuit).

>>96723392
>>96723334
It's a whenever trigger, so it happens multiple times regardless of whether you're swinging at multiple players. It's Toski text, bizarrely the ritualposter hasn't posted it yet but if you check the statements they're identical and you get multiple triggers off of that too

>>96723380
First wish printed since WotC took over the Commander format.
They already made Legendary Vehicles playable in anticipation of a Star Trek UB, they printed a Heroes of the Realm card that lets you have a Legendary noncreature artifact as a 2nd commander
You are high as fuck if you think they're not about to change the rules on wishes. WotC always said wishes should work in Commander, and the comprehensive rules even lay out how they WOULD work, the only fucking rule in there for how something that "doesn't work" would work

IT'S
COMING

>>96723392
As with spiderman, I'm glad they're printing uninspired shit on the slop cards
the worse the are the less I'll have to see them

>>96723085
>already spoiling it

They are really desperate for it not to flop

>>96723389
That isn't what you said, idiot. You just said and I quote "multiverse shit" which isn't the same thing as "characterizing multiverse travel as wishes." Try actually using your words next time.

>>96723382
>>wotc doubling down on multiverse shit 5 years after it went out of style
It's literally just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_Forever retardbro
Unless you mean in-universe sets in which case Magic has been using the term "multiverse" constantly since the 90s

>put fan favorite character on powerful card
>use their worst art for the bast version
$10 says the classic yellow jumpsuit tomboy April will be the extended art special foil and/or serialized chase card of the set.

>>96723219
Doesn't matter how OP you made those woke cards, I still won't use them

>>96723425
I would appreciate this joke more if the whole premise of this set wasn't gross

>>96723413
>one or more
Yes, I guess you can double strike and shit, but it's hardly an inspired or interesting effect.

>>96723438
Yeah mutagen is definitely keyword or +1/+1 counters.

>>96723426
>being this willfully retarded

I wish I could read this

>>96723085
>>96723117
You know, I thought they may actually try a four commander mechanic with these guys. Figured it was time they'd say fuck it and find a way to have all four in the command zone. More restraint here than I thought they'd have. Still couldn't resist having one of them be five colors.

>>96723311
Spiderman

>>96723423
Try to read from context you fucking autist

>discussing a wish card
>say they're finally leaning into multiverse shit, surprised they didn't do that with Spider-Man
>UMMMM HECKIN WHAT? THERE WAS LOADS OF REFERENCES TO THE MULTIVERSE IN SPIDER-MAN!!!! WRONG! WRONG! YOU WERE WRONG!
Clearly I fucking meant leaning into it in the way the fucking card we were discussing leaned into it.
Do you think I'm fucking oblivious to the cards in the Spider-Man set? Are you so convinced of your own intellectual superiority?

Whatever part of the spectrum your doctor diagnosed you as, let them know they need to double it.

>>96723454
During your turn you may cast creature spells with power or toughness 1 or less from your graveyard. If you cast a spell this way, that creature enters with (fucking) finality counter on it.

Yeah Mutagen is just a +1/+1 counter.

>>96723454
Why must every set now have a ~le exclusive gold~ chase printing now?
These special printings aren't special when every set has them for 5 years. Shit like extended/full arts are cheap as hell now.

>>96723452
If that didn't address either of your points then I don't really know what crackhead retard shit you're babbling about

I just know my friend is gonna put this in his Nekusar, the Mindrazer deck

>>96723468
Why activate as a Sorcery? that's retarded

>>96723382
Elon Musk

>>96723454
>During your turn you may cast creature spells with power or toughness 1 or less from your graveyard. If you cast a spell this way, that creature enters with a finality counter on it.
Sounds busted OP, they must really want it to be the chase card

>>96723478
Combat tricks confuse new players. But then they have this sneak mechanic so who knows

>>96723277
Are we getting a UW version of these? I know with Spider-Man there was some legal issues that demanded it but I wouldn't think the Turtles would care too much.

>>96723468
>it doesn't even turn them into a mutant
How the fuck does that work then?

>>96723480
Elon Musk buying it would make it even worse. He'd try to make it so you had to use some AI shit to play cards or something, or use Grok to design cards and not care about anything.

what do we think about these lands bros?

>>96723508
Oh my fucking god thats so duuuuuumb

>>96723501
Yeah it'd be great
Hope you enjoy Reddit Gold being like Treasure tokens but adding 2 mana

>>96723480
That would be based though

>>96723478
Is Sneak a new keyword? I can't remember

>>96723508
Finally, goyslop

>>96723527
I thought that was the bagel

>>96723508
I AM A PIG

>>96723508
Kek

>>96723468
I wish these were called something more generic. Feels like this would have been a new member of the clue, treasure, food token club.

>>96723478
So sneak is basically fixed commander ninjutsu, right? It's a cast, so you pay commander tax, but you can actually do it from anywhere, not just your hand like regular ninjutsu.

>>96723508
I will give credit for putting the anchovies in the Island

>>96723534
bagels are kikeslop

>>96723534
Goys don't deserve b*gles

>>96723508
They're awful. But like funny awful.

>>96723537
Mutagen IS still theoretically a word that can exist anywhere, though its theme is a bit restrictive (but then again so is Lander). Could see it on Ikoria or some such for example.

>>96723311
For extra challenge, fulfill the requirement to run Zirda as companion.

>>96723521
It is new. It's looking to be ninjutsu but for sorceries and other cards too.

>>96723535
AND I EAT SLOP

>>96723539
It's sort of just 'broader ninjutsu'. Restrictive timing, is an alt-cost, so it's 'fixed', yeah.

It's never gonna get better, is it bros?

>>96723560
Yeah fair enough. I was thinking this set may tie back in Rad counters but it looks like those are as restrictive as expected. At least the sets with mutants can have some kind of mutagen thing. Looks like it'll be more like blood in that effect. Rarer but not entirely unusable later.

>>96723416
Honestly anon I'm with you on this, WotC needs something big and official wishes sounds like it

>>96723202
Lorwyn is going to be so gay

>>96723575
We need to accelerate it's decline so we can build anew

>>96723416
So how would wishes work in this format? Are we just going to have a small side deck we can pick from for these effects?

>>96723219
Imagine how pozzed Star Trek will be

>>96723575
Yes. First person shooters have burst the crossover slop bubble. They are now marketing themselves on NOT having those features, that's how hard the pendulum swung back

Unfortunately WotC plans sets 2 years ahead and they struck a billion dollar IP this year. Even if Spider-Flop makes them think twice, I would say there's 3-4 more years of this to come

>>96723609
>commander gets the yugioh extra deck

>>96723589
Good, I want to breed the elf twink

Last card I think

>>96723623
I'd love a white Sisko

>>96723630
That's what I was thinking too. Dreading really. This is already a hundred card format. Don't want it to get even more with a fifteen card extra deck or something.

>>96723623
Star Trek is of course known as a bastion of conservative media

>>96723656
This is how Big Sleeve is gonna get us

>>96723609
>>96723630
>>96723656
>post an image that explains exactly how wishes work in Commander
>ermmmmm so how would this work?
I swear to fucking god the average IQ of these threads lowers every week.

It fucking says. IT FUCKING SAYS HOW THEY WORK
YOU DON'T NEED A SIDEBOARD
OUTSIDE OF THE GAME MEANS ANY CARD YOU OWN
SIDEBOARDS ARE FOR TOURNAMENT PLAY ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WISHES ARE LIMITED TO SIDEBOARDS IN THOSE RULES
THE FUCKING RULES FOR COMMANDER ALREADY SAY HOW WISHES WORK IN COMMANDER
YOU PULL ANY CARD THE WISH CAN LEGALLY GET FROM YOUR COLLECTION AS LONG AS IT MEETS ALL YOUR DECK BUILDING RESTRICTIONS

>>96723623
It'll mostly all use the actor's likenesses or similar-ish, because... Of course it will.

>>96723641
I hate it. I hate it so much.

>>96723623
Star Trek was a very progressive show, anon. If anything, you should be worried if there will be any Ferengi cards

Yet another extra combat phase.

>>96723658
I mean, by the standards of the modern left? Yes.

>>96723623
Didn't it have televisions first interracial kiss?

>>96723696
LMAO
Roddenberry was further left than any of the "leftists" you cry about

>>96723673
Reddit user

>>96723695
Meh, cost make it a bit too much of a hassle

>>96723623
You've never watched an episode of Star Trek in your life

>>96723696
You are under 25 years old.

>>96723700
I'm not sure if it was the actual first, but it was among the first.

>>96723705
Wakanda forever, whyte boi

>>96723673
Yes we know. But taking any card what so ever is so absolutely fucking awful that I'd rather a side deck. I'd rather they have done some kind of rule rework for it to be needed rather than just pick whatever card you want. The amount of nonsense shit this brings with opening it to any card is fucking stupid as hell and I really didn't think they'd be this retarded to not fix that before making more cards for it.

>>96723724
>But taking any card what so ever is so absolutely fucking awful that I'd rather a side deck
Cool, not what you said.
Now you've conceded that you didn't read the image that explained how it worked before asking how it worked, you can fuck off.

>>96723695
>Menace
J. Jonah Jameson winning big.

>>96723219
What's the big deal, chuds? Mad they made her a scientist to appeal to future doctors and scientists?

Sho'Nuff secret lair when?

>>96723729
Anon you replied to three people how do you know what he specifically said? Also, wishes will never be in commander.

The joke has run its course, please unstaple the slop funnel from my face now

>>96723736
Her original version was a scientist-type-person. They're going for what looks like a bit of a composite version, so she's something of a scientist, something of a reporter.

>>96723736
her OG version worked for Stockman iirc

>>96723739
I could not care less, everyone I replied to was asking HOW it worked, not saying it SHOULD work differently
I will not be gaslit when I can scroll up and see the fucking replies.

Will they have a Barclay card in the Star Trek set? This may change my opinion on UBs forever

>>96723752
I mean, it's about as middle of the road you can go with her. A bit of everything they could have mixed into her from multiple April.

>>96723776
>>96723630
You have brain damage anon. Stop getting so worked up over something that isnt happening. You've been doing this for months now.

>>96723792
Do you have no idea what green text means or are you pretending to be retarded for a (You)?

>Still no higher quality version of the Omepaths cards

AAAAAAAAA JUST LET ME DO A PROPPER PROXY

>>96723810
I do... do you? Anon is clearly playfully mocking the introduction of wishes. No asking why or how or should or whozzits. Its okay to be wrong anon, its a bit less okay to be this invested in a rule change that will never happen though.

>>96723830
Option 3, actually just retarded

>>96723783
I figured it was gonna be that, to be honest. Looks like the 'thing' they're doing is their own incarnation of TMNT as the 'core' part with some extra stuff pulled from the Multiverse-y shit or what-have-you. Which, honestly, fair enough, TMNT is very much a thing that changes with adaptations.

>>96723779
Obrien must suffer sorceries are confirmed.

>>96723752
>Pizza Power Turtle Team Up Kowabunga Megaslop Bundle with Chase Borderless Serial Pizza Grease-Ink Collectors Cards
I wonder which real set died for this

>>96723899
aetherdrift 2: the search for more reddit gold

>>96723899
a turtle in EVERY pack, anon!

>>96723899
The humiliation ritual continues until Wotc has discovered how deep the pockets of the playerbase are, and then once 80% of people are cut out of the game it becomes a "luxury" hobby for those whales that make up the 20%
Same thing happened to Warhammer.

>>96723779
Reginald Barclay, Holodeck Addict 2UW

Human Artificer

When Reginald Barclay enters the battlefield, create a 0/1 Illusion creature token for each female creature you control. Reginald Barclay gets +1/0 for each illusion you control. Reginald cannot attack if you control a male creature with greater power.

0/3

I am legitimately getting severe UB exhaustion. I'm not even explicitly a UB hater, I liked LotR and FF and some of the commander-only lines. Having 7 sets a year and 4 of them being external IPs just feels like drowning in products I don't care about that I'm not going to get excited for that I'm not going to spend more than $20 or so on for singles.
If Lorwyn isn't amazing I'm probably going to just take a break from the game entirely. It's so exhausting.

>>96723478
I hate this set but I can't say no to more reliable red card draw.

>>96723916
2 Aetherdrift 2 Furious would probably have tri-colored gearhulks at least

>>96723959
>female creature
>male creature
The fuck do I do with this?

>>96723981
Is this stax? If I cast this every turn and copying it twice/recurring it

>>96723311
Sergeant John Benton

>>96723899
Gay Bolas

>>96724008
It's just a joke based on his character. It would work fine if printed without the gendered language.

>>96723219
WE

>>96723982
>but I can't say no to more reliable red card draw.
You can, and you will, faggot.

>>96720704
>Stacey Milfington
She's gorgeous.

>>96723468
They can just recycle this mechanic for the inevitable Witcher UB

Alright, third time is the charm. How did I do?

>>96723219
>they did it again

>>96724022
Not really true stax since it doesn't stay on the board. Jumping through those copy/recursion hoops would mean playing spell slinger that just happens to have a wonky sorcery speed stax combo.

Actually interesting and balanced discussion of UB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDv2QFI3nc

>inb4 buy an ad

>>96724066
Oh fuck, you're not wrong

>>96724139
buy an ad

What cards will let me sac ornathppters to destroy command towers?

>>96724088
Swap those landscapes for gates

>>96723219
/pol/ bros..

>>96723219
*wheeze* HAHAHAHAHAHAAH *snort* HAHAHAHAHA

>>96723508
there is no god

>>96724163
Tell that to Square Enix and Nickelodeon, oh wait, they did! AHAHAHAHAHAAA

>sloppa piggy in my group is already talking about the heccin epic tmnt food deck he's gonna build
Never been more over

I AM A HECKING PIG OINK OINK

>>96723085
> Partner
> WUBRG
Slooooop

I disapprove of Finality counters

>>96724296
Shame him. Drive these people out. It's the only shit Rosewater will respond to. As long as his corporate masters want UB to happen, he will gaslight and lie and tell you that you can't yuck someone else's yum and you just need to grit your teeth and open your wallet if you're a TRUE Magic fan
Fuck him. Drive out the pigs. Make him cater to Magic fans rather than shareholders.

>>96724399
They suck. But it is also one of the more consistent reanimation options we've gotten in mono white.

Did they release Bepop and Rocksteady yet?

>>96724413
Duals shouldnt be on the RL

>>96724585
theres a pair card but haven't seen them solo (not that they would be

>>96724598
It's not a post about the reserve list, it's a post where maro literally says
>tee hee hee, if I don't say "promise" you can't trust me!
Like a fucking goblin.

>>96724598
$20 says they'll print UB versions of duals and other commander playable like grim monolith within the next 5 years

>>96724624
Save your $20 because you're going to need it to buy them all

>>96724635
I'm in the process of liquidating my RL/chase cards right now because I'm expecting the economy to explode again. Fully expect to buy them back for half price or less, just like around 2008

>>96724598
There shouldn't be a reserve list to being with.

>>96724650
>AI bubble bursts
>economy crashes
>WotC: "we're going to scale back releases"
>Now 4 UB sets a year and nothing else

>>96723623
Magic the Gathering featuring Star Trek featuring Stacey Abrams

I just want a deck that plays old, iconic cards and feels like playing magic
I feel like I am getting close but I am missing something
>made a tasigur ProsBloom deck that feels too similar to generic x spell sultai pile
>built a "greatest hits of azorious" deck with original daxos that kinda feels ok but is lacking character
>working on an old border esper deck with dromar and struggling to even hit 100 cards

>>96723508
what are we even doing anymore

>>96723843
But anon that post is me and I was mocking the concept not asking how or why or whozzits makes it work. I was politely telling you youre wrong

>>96723508
Apologize now

>>96724088
Why are you so addicted to bad rocks

>>96724718
I'm building pic rel exactly for that reason. Aiming to have 80% of the cards mention, depict or reference Urza. Its a bit janky but it gives me feels to see urzas glasses and urza lands

>>96724718
You first step should be to not play edh but 60 card casual instead.

>>96723717
hardly, the only problem is he doesn't have haste

>>96723508
>>96724764
pizza is much better than the piss lands

>>96724764
The driving lands are funny. The piss rare filter isn't so much.

>>96724764
>>96724798
why not pizza piss lands?

>>96724764
No. The fact that stinkier turds exist does not make your turds any less stinky. Throw those away.

>>96724792
I mean unironically I would probably be playing premodern if anyone in my area played in paper. I personally helped cultivate the edh scene in my area over the last 10 years, and as you can imagine, that means most of the people I have gotten into magic and play with in general are into edh exclusively.
I convinced my lgs to stop doing drafts on friday nigths and do a second commander night. I made my bed.

>>96724830
Getting new players into magic through edh is fucked up. Just build a predh list or something if your buds are edhonlies who will never drop the format in favor of something else.

>>96724850
NTA but most people dont resonate with competitive 1v1 card games. They DO resonate with social games where you can pick one cool guy to be your leader and theme.

>>96724830
Agreed with that guy, make a PreDH which is fully legal to play at the table with normal commander decks. I have convinced multiple people to make them because they can still be really powerful and synergetic if you're a good deck builder.

>>96724793
One of my favorite cards in my Gisela deck.

>>96724718
Youre missing actual desire. Youre chasing things youve likely never experienced. Trying to recapture someone else's life. Build something cool and fun stop trying to make a statement.

>>96724937
Shut the fuck up, MaRo, I'm not buying the UB slop

>>96724943
I wasnt suggesting that anon but I can see from this reply you are beyond helping.

my lgs will be trying to get people to unglue themselves from just edh slop with pauper league and old shop promos like lotus petal...

This card is a sleeper hit for edh

>>96724937
You are making a lot of assumptions and no good points.

>>96724962
When magic still had sovl

>>96724968
Okay nostalgia goblin lmao

>>96724962
superior version

>lorwyn is the only set in 2026 I'm interested in beyond buying the few pushed singles slop sets always have
>going to be training for its release and well beyond that
>going to miss out on lorwyn because jotc pushed it back into my training date to shart out spiderflop earlier
I fucking hate hasbro so much

>>96724937
>Youre missing actual desire
wtf did he mean by this?

>>96724962
>>96725012
How to make one guy hate your guts.

>>96725019
I am not holding out hope for lorwyn. It's going to be gay as shit.

>>96725028
This early looks for it were not promising at all.

>>96725028
It may not be anywhere near as good as the original lorwyn block but the spoilers so far look better than anything released after final fantasy and any of the slop that will release after lorwyn.

>>96724962
Is there a print of that with the 2015 border? I kinda like it. Combine with pic related and there's some versatility going

>>96720621
You don't want a lot of birds you want top deck manipulation.

>>96725028
The boggarts already look completely different, there's ice flamekin now because they had to be UR for draft or something, there's flip cards and the general vibe is off. I'm thinking lorwyn eclipsed will be a grim affair.

>>96720621
Just run the couple of good birds in his colors and then put in a bunch of Tempest Hawks to fill out extra space It's what a friend of mine does with it and it works decently well.

>>96725048
>is there a print of that with the worse border
kill yourself

>>96725072
Gotcha. It's a budget deck, so I don't want to take out my Divining Tops or Sylvan Libraries for this thing. Budget options for that? Maybe a few good cheap birds I should have.

>>96725090
>Tempest Hawk
I didn't know about this guy. So since the card says any number may exist, that overules the EDH rule?

>>96725072
Except this bird, this bird is cancer

>>96725106
Yeah. Cards with that line of text get by the one card rule. Decent filler option for him and if let's you run Thrumming Stone too to dump a bunch of birds as once as well.

>>96725095
>yeah dude I fucking love having all this ugly negative space at the bottom of the cards, it's actually peak design and not just complete nostalgia cope

>>96724609
Hmmmmm

>>96725151
anon the 2015 border increased the negative space
what the fuck? lol

>>96724609
jenovabros... we won

>>96725185
It didn't. It confined the area of the card. The old design is just amateurish. I know you grew up with it and that seems "right" to you, but it is objectively a bad way to design and any designer will tell you that

>>96725253
you literally don't understand what negative space is. please don't comment further

>>96723311
Grand arbiter augustin

>>96725264
A frame is not part of a piece therefore it is not negative space, you Dunning-Kruger artlet

>>96725151
>less cramped text box bad
>symmetrical border bad
>no ugly foil stamp bad

Forgot a few cards

>>96725295
You're completely delusional. The old cards don't have bigger text boxes and the new frame is fucking symmetrical, it's like you literally havent even looked at the cards

>>96725333
That seems like a strong card

>>96725346
Simple and direct. Yeah that's alright. Though I'd hope we also get a regular Shredder to with him.

>>96725333
>>96725346
>>96725368
I could not give less of a fuck, they all look like fan-made cards to me

>>96725368
>Utrom
Weird they didn't just give him the alien creature type. Thought that was what it was for. To blanket cover things like this.

>>96725388
Don't know why they didn't make him a villain as well

>>96725368
> Affinity for Artifacts
> Draw 4 cards

>>96725397
>Don't know why they didn't make him a villain as well
Fuck that's a good point too. They just introduced it as a type. Would have helped it and these have synergy if they had made more villains here.

>>96725397
We now live in a world where the word adorkable is printed on a magic card fuck me sideways

>preview cards for ninja turtles
>learn nothing from spiderflop
>all previewed cards manage to look less powerful and less inspired than spiderflop

>>96725409
New token or is this a new card type? Or would it be something like Schemes? Also feels like it leads strongly towards supporting the idea of amass foot soldiers theory someone mentioned not long ago. Or something similar to it at least.

>>96725346
why would i use this over skullbriar

>>96725422
The only card that looks in line with Spider-Man weaker line up are these two >>96725397 >>96725333 the rest have more than just one thing going on instead of the more mediocre cards Spider-Man had.

I wonder if Splinter will he be good enough to put in my Ashcoat deck.

>>96725409
That looks like a fucking Un card

>>96723085
Finally getting some good new token generating cards? And they'll probably be animal themed to fit into my furry mafia deck? Fuck yeah bless you UB.

>>96725442
Skullbrair needs to do damage to get his counters himself while Super Shredder gets them off anything leaving. Which is going to naturally build up very fast. Skullbrair having haste and green does give him a lot more versatility but Super Shredder is going to be growing fast to compensate.

>>96725474
Bro even the 2 cmc 2/1 haste, search top 4 for artifact is not bad at all. Maybe not in the command zone but I could see that played in artifact lists or 60 card

Where's the mutatejutsu cards though?

>>96723219
>turned the cute ginger news woman into black science kween

Wow what an exciting and original character concept we've never seen before! None of you anti-UB crybabies better be seething about this set, it's already indistinguishable from a UW set.

>>96725504
True. He's not so bad and a good support for artifact decks. That Casey is on the weaker end is I think telling that this set is at least stronger on a whole than Spider-Man was. At least from the small sample we've gotten.

>>96725474
>nearly everything shown is some variation of do thing, put +1/+1 on creature/draw card
>this set has more going on
I miss when we'd make fun of lazy do thing draw card design

> Krang gets a completely cracked ability set. Can easily draw cards amd voltron.
> Bebop and Rock get neg utility ability
Welp.
I hope they make an UW Krang but we all no they wont

>>96725554
Anons make fun of almost every single commander now. Name 3 universally or at least generally liked commanders here
>>96725563
Bebop and Rock look good in a hearthhull deck at least.

>>96725554
Yes. Now compare it to the cards in Spider-Man that that were just menace and that's it. Or just web slinging. It's better than.

>>96725589
>Name 3 universally or at least generally liked commanders here
Jetmir, skullbriar, Endrek sahr

>>96725604
ok I'll give you those since I like them

>>96725563
In a few years when the UB bubble bursts and they're begging on their knees for old players to come back, they will UW a bunch of shit i bet

>>96723219
The faggiest thing imaginable

>>96723696
You "muh persecution" rightoid faggots just spend all day trying to find things to be vicitmized about. It's pathetic.

Old Trek
>Guinan, supremely smart black queen who scares even the resident space God.
>Uhura, who was a bridge crewman during an era where segregation was a thing.
>Worf, one of the most popular characters in the franchise who gets to QAPLA tons of pale alien pussy.
>Jadzia Dax, a literal gender/biology fluid alien who was also black at one point.
>Sisko, black captain and chosen prophet of a race of alien space Gods.
>Tuvok, black smart Vulcan.
>Jake Sisko, brilliant black author.

nuTrek
>nuHura, sexy sassy black deck officer.
>Michael, non-binary black officer that borders on a super hero.
>nuGuinan, now a sassy anti-racist black queen.
>Mariner, sassy black afro command officer.

And that's not getting into the asians, the browns, the gays, the other women. Star Trek has always been hyper woke, they don't need to race swap Dr. Beverly to make her black they have tons of characters to choose from. Stop trying to be victims all the time, everyone is tired of crybaby pussies.

>>96725774
You're not going to be able to gaslight people into thinking the left hasn't become more radical over time when you eat your own if they don't keep pace with your agenda.
See JK Rowling

>>96725496
sure but on the account of killing him once you reset all the work while sb needs specifically hand bounce or tucks to get rid off and nowadays with even more easily accessible double strike he will still grow fast

>>96725809
JK has become considerably more radical in her hatred of trannies

>intentionally and unapologetically focus UB decks on my games
>build decks around completely blocking someone out of the game (the UB deck user in this case)
>show actual, audible disdain and disgust when UB player play his UB cards

Being doing this and having a lot of fun. And openly saying before games that I’m going to make the UB guy game an absolute slog. I don’t care about winning, I don’t wanna make friends, I wanna annoy the UB nerd to a point of him quitting the table and complaining to the store owner about me.

>>96725819
She really hasn't, she's always said she has tranny friends and loves them but that they're not biologically women and there are some circumstances they can't be treated as bio women.

If you think she's become more radical, maybe its because you retard trannies went scorched earth over that and started threatening her lmao

>>96725810
Yeah that's also fair. They both have the potential to blow up decently fast but also counters to stop them. Honestly, I'd just run Super Shredder in Skullbrair as a backup and call it a day. It's least cool there's a card now that can almost do the same in mono black.

>>96725834
I think at most people with think you're just severely autistic anon

>>96725809
You're the one gaslighting trying to portray Star Trek as conservative or center-right media when it's always been as radical left as people of the day would tolerate.

TOS era had desegregated workplaces and the infamous interracial kiss.

TNG era had interracial couples and non-gendered species as being no big deal, on top of all the progressivist feminist ideology like touchy feely therapy, in an era where Schwarzenegger was still making movies.

And nuTrek is rife with modern day progressive shit, it just doesn't stand out so much as pre-2005 Trek because the left wing won the culture and societal war so hard no one blinks an eye at a short haired soft FtM Wakandan named Michael.

>>96725859
Is it really more autistic to hate UB so much that you ruin the UB player's night than to be such a fucking autist that you buy anything with characters you know on it?

Autism-smush stings the UBpiggies for a reason

>>96725872
>You're the one gaslighting trying to portray Star Trek as conservative or center-right media
Didn't say that. Just said it's conservative by the standards of the modern left.
All you have to do is google
>is star trek tng problematic?
And find dozens of articles and posts complaining about how it was racist and sexist.

>>96723085
>It's another """5 color""" commander thats actually just 1 color, because fuck having actual trade offs or downsides to getting access to every color in the game
I am tired of this meme.

>>96725876
I'm just saying anon, you could just target him to get him out the game quick and not audibly complain and show disgust every time you see a UB card, at that point you're more autistic.

>>96725921
A dog needs to know why he is punished

>>96725397
Because the timeline for UB sets is absolutely fucked. Its why LOTR had no battles in it despite coming out right after they were introduced.

>>96725934
the dog will think you're autstic at most anon and not go and cry to someone about you like you want. If they do then they're just a faggot regardless if they played ub or not

Star trek is gay

>>96725422
Thats the problem when having to make them all for standard now. Older UBs like LOTR could be strong because they were straight to modern. You could have never printed something like the one ring in a straight to standard set.

>>96723508
>I have already seen normies calling this "a flavor win"
>pun intended
I hate whatever retard coined this term
>well this card is a fucking abomination that doesn't belong in Magic, exactly the shit every critic of UB says is bad about it BUT it succeeds at being an abomination very well so lets call that a win

>>96725952
Bizarre how that plays out. Guess it's partially the consequence of that statement regarding these all being planned out years in advance. Would potentially be interesting trying to guess when each set was designed to figure out what around it was influencing the card design.

>>96725492
So do half of the new MTG cards.

>>96725774
Guinan was sassy as hell in TNG, wth?

>>96725397
Because Hero/Villain is more meant for Marvel sets and they just used Hero for FIN because they figured it was better for its purpose than Warrior/Soldier or whatever. And if they used Hero/Villain these typelines would be ridiculously stuffed.

>>96725978
Because of the licensing it ends up being all fucked. I suspect UB sets in general take longer to make than in universe ones. I mean look at how fast they were able to reskin spiderman for arena.

>>96725430
It's for the co-op side-product, it's probably what you fight against, a bit like the Horde thing Theros had.

>>96725884
And if the internet had existed in 1965 you'd be able to find 1000x as many articles and post screeching about the IR kiss. Saying Star Trek wasn't always more radical left wing until very recently because you won't find that many contemporary written articles complaining about it when these shows existed before the internet (and in the case of TOS/early TNG, before computers were even widespread) is a supremely brainlet argument. By the standards of the modern left, yes, old Trek was not full of as much progressivism, but by the standards of THEIR TIME they were radical left and extremely progressive. Just because the modern left has finally caught up and gain past the things Trek was espousing since the 1960s doesn't retroactively make that material conservative, regardless of what a few brainlets on the internet writing clickbait articles want you to think.

>>96725966
turning Modern/Legacy into rotating formats with massively pushed power levels is a problem in and of itself

>>96726013
>w-well if the past was different!
But it's not.
The bottom line is the modern left does view old Trek as sexist and racist and it doesn't matter if you say it was "left for the time", my entire fucking point is that the left has become more radical and things that once were progressive are now not progressive enough

Sets for 2027
>Universes beyond:rupauls drag race
>Universes beyond:fast food franchises
>Universes beyond:Disney Jr
>Universes beyond:lord of the rings (again)
>Universes within:gay bars of New capenna
>Universes beyond:the Democrat party
>Universes beyond:Saturday night live

>>96726033
I have literally never seen anybody said classic Trek was racist or sexist overtly. At most I've seen some people say that Kirk is a bit dated of an archetype and some of the alien species lean a bit close to "this is just a thinly-veiled real world culture". The thing I've seen them be mostly critical of is newer Trek, though, Section 31 was blasted by these people for being a bit too much about how the lefty utopian Federation has this sick twisted dark side because reasons.

>>96726052
>Universes Beyond: House of Saud

>>96726018
Yes but at least you can make the UB cards stronger if you print them straight to eternal formats. When you print straight to standard you get shit like spiderman.

>>96724718
What >>96724937 said
I'm willing to bet you don't have the experience with old gameplay environments to know why people love certain "iconic" cards so much. Doubly so if you're a pussy about combo.

>>96726062
GI Joe and Dredd would be cool though.

>>96726064
>I have literally never seen anybody said classic Trek was racist or sexist overtly
Okay cool, so you haven't been looking and you should do what you were advised here: >>96725884
>All you have to do is google
>>is star trek tng problematic?
>And find dozens of articles and posts complaining about how it was racist and sexist.

>>96726093
kill yourself

>>96726093
SUUUUUUUEY HERE PIGGY PIGGY PIG

>>96725884
If DA MODERN LEFT thinks Star Trek is racist then by the same logic you're scared of cell phone towers and lactose intolerant

>>96725986
Not really. Maybe in Times Arrow but usually she wasnt

>>96726097
You can do that with literally anything because content for every fucking thing imaginable exists already. Half-decent chance many of those articles are AI slop.

>>96725487
We got a Splinter so far it looks like.

>>96726128
I dunno why they made him Black. I get they wanted to do one of each colour but Splinter seems like the least Black member of the group. Surely Raph is Black? Leo as White and Donny as Blue, sure, but you could probably make Splinter Green, Raph Black and Mikey Red.

>>96726052
>>Universes within:gay bars of New capenna
Gay bros we keep winning

>>96726097
>if you google "confirm my biases" you can find proof i'm correct
God I'm so glad I wasn't born south american

>>96726008
Oh so that's what these are then. Doubt it's going to be played much like a lot of these side options are

>>96726110
Impressively incoherent post
>>96726123
>>96726139
>n-none of that's real!
Cope.
The left got more radical, it's fine for you to admit that. From about the late 70s onwards its just been win after win for the left, you've got everything you've ever asked for. Abortion, birth control, women in the workplace, divorce, decriminalization of homosexuality, gay marriage, trannies in women's sports, DEI in corporations- you got it all man. That's why you keep finding dragons to fight.

Is that the problem? Admitting thats why your side became more radical also means accepting that you're not the underdog?
You're winning. You're winning so hard even "conservatives" have caved on shit like gay marriage lmao.

>>96726097
Code of Honor was pretty funny
>>96726111
I dont really see that honestly. She could be serious, absolutely. But she was a bartender so I think a lot of her lines are with some backhanded sass

>>96726128
Why the fuck are we getting so many spoilers for a set that doesn't come out until like April of next fucking year?
We've seen more fucking TMNT than Lorwyn already

>>96723219
WHO IS THIS EVEN FOR huehuehuhe
I will also always gag when I read the word "hacktivist"
>>96723117
>in my colors
>gives me an artifact token in addition to other tokens
>untouchably cringe because i don't like TMNT
WHY. STOP IT.
>>96723085
I actively can't fathom putting partner on something with a 5 color identity, how little effort did they put into this? Just make each one a different fucking color so people can make their fun 2-color combo decks. What is the POINT.
>>96723244
>>96723438
>>96723257
eugh
>>96723425
>Raid (the fridge)
Chuckled once, will never chuckle again
>>96723454
Upsetting because this ability is actually pretty decent. A single solemnity and you're off to the races with anything cool.
>>96723468
It's as fine as fine can be for something incredibly unspecial.

>>96726157
>The side that's currently in power thinks it's the underdog
Impressive projection there.

>>96726166
Concession accepted

>>96726137
Splinter is a guy who raised a bunch of orphaned turtles with the explicit goal of using them to kill the guy who killed his former owner and friend, so I can kinda see it.

>>96726168
You know how spaced repetition helps you remember things? It works for these advertisements in a MtG trenchcoat as well.

>>96723478
>Sneak X
>You may **cast** this spell for X if you also return an unblocked attacker you control to hand
>**during the declare blockers step**
They really went out of their way to try and "fix" ninjutsu, huh?
>>96723508
Absolutely gross. Also
>eating pizza off of your closed fist with your weapon
????
>>96723534
gross
>>96723575
I genuinely think we're almost at a critical mass where this is gonna be remembered pretty negatively and moved past.
>>96723695
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? (beyond not using it because TMNT)
>>96723899
Unironically probably something cool like Ice Age 3: Ice Harder. I miss Ice Age, Alliances, Homelands, Fallen Empires, etc. Give me some fun ways to work with that and all the old odd color pie shit.
>>96725333
Is this not a joke character? I've always thought he was a joke character.

>>96726174
>>96726197
LOOK OUT EVERYBODY, THE MAIN CHARACTER IS HERE
DONTCHA WANNA KNOW WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT EVERYTHING?

>>96726197
Casey's not really a joke character, though basically everybody's a joke character in TMNT to some extent, that's half the point, he's just sort of... The weird anti-hero vigilante to the turtles being largely more overly heroic.

>>96726168
Brand confidence is low so it's better to show more
Lorwyn has fewer spoilers because they're confident in it

>>96726168
>spoilers generate clicks and buzz
>clicks and buzz are metrics for attention
>more attention=more better
ze hype train will continue until morale improves

>>96726168
Honestly no clue. I would have thought we'd be seeing Lorwyn by now. Turtles is the farthest set they could show us.

>>96726062
I'd deal with all that UB crap just for another good set on Mirrodin

>>96726215
These are first looks. They tend to show off more of UB sets in first looks because they're also marketing them to a more mainstream audience than normal sets. First looks for in-universe sets are basically just only for LGS owners and enfranchised players.

>>96726215
we'll be seeing Avatar in like two weeks then it's right into Lorwyn after that

>>96726208
Really? I honestly had no idea. I watched so little TMNT as a kid that all I ever saw was him get his ass kicked and then the Tutles show up and do the thing
>>96725346
>cool, simple design
>Mutant Human so you can't Mutate him
FUCK. OFF.
>>96725368
>yet another creature type
Qu was cool, this is literally covered by shit we have like Alien.
>>96725397
>Adorkable
Hate.
>>96725409
I'm frankly terrified if this is some new type of thing.
>>96726128
>literally talking last night about more abilities like Pitiless Plunderer, Eloise, and Nick Valentine
>this
>nontoken
Come on.
>>96726205
Eat shoes, dork
>>96726223
We have to wait for some kind of remaster or retread Masters set for that, sadly. Mirrodin got ruined by the horribly botched writing so Magic's coolest plane is now just sitting in a time bubble waiting to be shitty again.

>>96726223
Same
GOD I love artifacts lads

>>96726223
I would take it all if Barbie becomes a real set and introduces pink mana. Unironically. The seethe would be unbelivable

>>96726234
>I'm frankly terrified if this is some new type of thing.
It's a side-product thing for a PvE deal.

>>96726231
>Avatar
Fuck I keep forgetting about this one too. I was starting to think we'd have nothing until January. From how much of Avatar we've seen we still don't know too much about it. It seemed like a smaller Assassin's Creed styles set with what look like Jumpstart like decks intended to be played against each other? Is that still the idea or did something change?

>>96726246
Oh, okay, thank god. I can live with that. I was dreading this was another thing being pushed onto commander.

>>96726205
>DONTCHA WANNA KNOW WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT EVERYTHING?
Yes

>>96726234
You know as well as I do that whatever thing happens in Fractured Reality, it's gonna get fixed because Mirrodin is the last remnant of "the true timeline" which conveniently is outside of time at the moment and Jin the Chin (who we only ever saw get dismembered but explicitly recovered from that in an earlier book) is gonna make a deal with someone to get brought in and thats going to fix the timeline, but Phyrexia gets a seat at the table again.

>>96726250
No, the Jumpstart thing's a separate product, there's an actual full set too.

>he enters the thread
>he mass replies everything to let you know what he thinks
>then he starts replying to himself to make it look like people talk to him
It's so fucking tiresome.

swordbro more like leavethepooranimegirlsalonechud

>>96726261
>the Jumpstart thing's a separate product
That's a lot of eggs in this Avatar basket. Do we know which cards were supposed to have been in which or is it all guess work right now?

>>96726253
Jin fell into a vat of newts and died, Urabrask is the one that got dismembered but I'm pretty sure they're all confirmed dead and they're not gonna bring back New Phyrexia this soon.

>>96726253
I thought it was Urabrask who got cut into pieces and then Norn just didn't kill him for no reason at all (because her brain sorta just short-circuited 2 seconds after becoming an actual thread). Either way, Mirrodin really deserved better, I remember reading those books when I was a lot younger.

>>96726272
Anything TLE is the Jumpstart stuff (or I guess the Scene box I dunno if that has exclusive cards or not) or the bonus sheet, TLA is the main set.

>>96723244
> 5 color slop
> do thing draw card slop
> meme tribal slop

>>96726273
You may be right but honestly theres no reason Jin the Chin can't have psychically taken over that swarm of newts

>>96726286
Mirrodin will get a Remastered set probably in 2027, it's the last plane that we've actually been to enough to receive one but I also know wotc is quaked at the thought of putting the actual good mirrodin cards into production again

>>96726299
Ah ok. That makes it easy to filter through. Thanks anon. Wouldn't have thought this would be the set that gets both but I guess Wizards thought differently.

>>96726302
so what was your cool idea for the TMNT commander that they didn't do?

>>96726250
Nah, normal set.
https://scryfall.com/sets/tla?as=grid&order=set
The other stuff is TLE (Eternal) because from what I can tell they're not doing precons with it, but the jumpstart stuff still goes into Eternal formats.

>>96726312
I think they're trying a scatter-shot of side-products with a bunch of sets, UB or not. Avatar just has a lot of Jumpstart stuff because I think they think it's a good set to introduce people with? TMNT has the co-op thing, FIN had the two starter decks, I except Super Heroes to have something like that too.

Star trek is inherently right wing change my mind.
>Join our federation or die (wormhole dominion war)
>racist tropes exemplified like green skin Vulcans in original draft, ferengi, klingon (even nu trek giga nigga edition)
>Pro gun (everyone gets a phaser or phaser rifle, used only for self defense not terror)
>End of usury

Can't wait for the UB set.

>>96726251
they've had random not-vanguard cards with different events for years. I think if you did theros draft you got a greek tragedy-style role with an effect on it.

>>96726314
Here's a cool idea, stop packaging ads as playing cards?

>>96726352
UB is an ad. It's an ad for Magic to people into these other things.

>>96726305
I know that they're afraid of what they did, but honestly it could be easily rectified with actual playtesting. I know that's crazy, or at least for some kind of return set or set that takes places there, but yeah reprinting the good ones probably spooks them a little. What I'd like to see is some more love for Arcbound, more Trolls, maybe some cards for important side characters like Bruenna. I don't even think she has an actual picture of her in any media either, so it'd be nice (provided they don't do you know what)

>>96726321
>Avatar just has a lot of Jumpstart stuff because I think they think it's a good set to introduce people with?
See that's what I thought they were going to do with Spider-Man. Seemed like it was the bigger IP and a lot of the simpler card design felt like it was intended as beginner friendly. Either way yeah you bring up something I hadn't considered yet. With Avatar Jumpstarts and Turtles co-op modes they do seem to be trying to make more modes people can play with these as an extra. God knows how many people actually bother with these alternative modes but it's apparently something they think is worth investing into.

>>96726361
Yeah bro that's why Avatar happens to be coming out for its 20th anniversary! Coincidence!

>>96726369
I mean I imagine it's not a huge money sink even if they're not that popular, and it also gives them an excuse to milk the IP a bit more.

>>96726352
I got married to a funkopop

>>96726384
Why?

>>96726384
Which one?

>>96726371
are you... stupid? an event where people who like thing are active is the perfect opportunity to use it to get them to buy into new things.

>>96726352
every legal mtg card back says Magic: The Gathering on it. hell, most of the illegal ones do too.

>>96726401
Anon, his point stands that it's an ad. If you missed that then I think it'd be best to look around at your glass house before casting stones.

I just wanna suck dick and play magic. Why do i have to play with some boomer 90's stupid cartoon? God i hate UB so much

>>96726379
Yeah that's true. In the end it may be about the same amount of cards and some of them appear to show up in both products

>>96725346
> any permanent
Good voltron commander maybe. That could stack very easily

>>96726461
And you're still wrong, no matter how much you repost this lmao

>>96725277
my man

>>96725346
>Mutant
>Can't mutate because of the tacked on human type
>would be an amazing Mutate target
He's clearly not human anymore that's the fucking point.

>>96726517
>Sesame Street can be Breaking Bad if you change the title sequence!
Troon logic

>>96726529
There isn't much mutate options in mono black though is there?

>>96725346
there sure is a lot of leave the battlefield stuff because of how much exile stuff there is now. sad!

So the turtles are the unannounced Universe Beyond set coming in March, right?

>>96726549
>he's still making the EXACT same retarded argument

>>96726576
TMNT is the set that was unannounced, now it is announced

>>96726559
He would be in the 99 of something like Brokkos

>>96726576
Yes

>>96726549
anon why do you always use the same two fucking shows with this argument?

>>96726580
>>96726591
Why do you always pretend you don't understand as if you can gaslight someone into dropping an argument that upsets you?

Print a WUB blink commander and a WGB vehicles commander

>>96726607
You being wrong louder is not "scary", anon. You're just extremely obviously the same guy every single time this comes up and you repost the same two, incorrect shit opinions.

>>96726590
>>96726587
Ok. Just checking. I thought that set was supposed to come at the end of next year so March is a lot sooner than I thought. Makes more sense were getting shown parts of it then.

>>96726591
because those are the two shows his autistic ass hyperfixated on

>>96726632
>is not "scary"
Can you show me where I used that word? Why is it in quotes?

>>96726607
I understand it but you're still using the same argument so it's easy to tell it's one faggot making the same exact posts every damn thread

>>96723478
> may
Ok is bad

>>96726702
Why do you think I care what you think?

>>96726719
No you fatass, I know you don't care because you use this same argument every thread.