Thread 96719743

tiddy Barioth rider edition

Infinity is a 28mm tabletop skirmish game produced by Corvus Belli, and includes the related games Aristeia, Defiance, TAG Raid, REM Racers, and Acheron's Fall. Corvus Belli also produces the fantasy games Warcrow and Warcrow Adventures.

>Latest official update:
Freak wars infinity seminar

>Rules and missions:
https://infinitythewiki.com/index.php
https://infinitytheuniverse.com/resources
https://infinitytheuniverse.com/games/infinity/its

>Beginner FAQs and guides:
https://pastebin.com/x06JG55U
https://pastebin.com/xtQzRcq5
https://pastebin.com/xUBR7QFU

>Model identifiers (what each faction can take, somewhat outdated new sectorials and old ones coming back):
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1T2IiNCg093KtAte3Pvry-OaHyk59ZzlH

>Corvus Belli AI that you shouldn't ask rules questions:
https://infinityuniverse.ai/

>Semi-unofficial catalogue of fluff, dossiers, and unit models:
https://human-sphere.com/index.php

>Unit Dossiers archive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YlopTsqhvT4yfgsEAYr6L_XxJ4Ovc7a0

>Books:
https://mega.nz/folder/NkglXaCD#Kj16fd7nQhEcaId8hKD4oA

>Infinity Army (official list-builder app): https://infinityuniverse.com/army/infinity

Previous thread: >>96634575

>>96719743 (OP)
Tell me, why does she ride the log?

>>96719859
humanity EVOLVED in order to ride logs

>>96719859
Same reason Tao Pai Pai throws and rides a pillar.

>>96719743 (OP)
Why does her armour have a little chin protrusion like a Gundam?

I don't wanna be a slave of an alien technogod

>>96720551
its not slavery if they give you what you want

>>96720838
I'm sick of sidecuts, especially in things anime inspired. You did not see every third chick with a sidecut in ghost in the shell.

>>96720849
I mean a little bit of greenstuff and very light knife work can do wonders innit

>>96720838
>guys all have huge fucking dick bulges
>girls all have their asses covered

>>96720894
I agree, all of them should have massive dick bulges.

>>96720894
>>96720904
m-mankind.... evolved?

>>96720904
I won't look askance at a girl with a massive dick bulge, but I demand to see her fat ass wrapped in her bodysuit too.

>>96719743 (OP)
What do you think she smells like after riding the biomech in battle for a few hours?

>>96721093
I mean have you tried asking the CB:I ai chick if the EI take baths?
it is a achillies' folks after all

>>96720948
>>96721120
I really like these small unit reviews, who makes them?

>>96721127
io dunno I just took them from the last thread

>>96720296
>EI: join CA and we'll turn you into a gundam and give you your own zoid to ride
Can't deny that it's a strong as hell recruitment tactic

Just in case you didn't know, achilles, who's already widely used, really needed a buff, so he's now 10pts cheaper (for vanilla too).

These guys have 3 great loadouts (I completely agree with the commentary here), the rest are shit.

>>96721344
Can you still play it in Aleph?

>>96721359
No, all of the traitor Phallus members have already been removed.

>>96721362
It's so over...

>>96720838
>the Ironside is Techno-Organic
>the only other units with it are the Juggernaut and the Steeljaw
What does he look like under that armour? Is he secretly a space furry?

>>96721357
Is Harbinger 3 Leon Kennedy?

>>96721457
>under the armor
>he doesn't know
Anon...

>>96721357
>>96721779
Man, it's a shame that I don't much care for these two units, since hackers are important and you need line troops. Because every other model in the faction is pretty damn great

>>96720948
> Look very technorganic
> Don't have the rule
Wah?

>>96721296
Almost looks like Infinity the Dante's classic power point format

>>96721817
the belly is exposed!

>>96721357
What's a wildparrot

>>96720904
A man of culture, I see

>>96721848
Another weapon stolen from PanO

>>96721855
Which does

>>96721865
PS7 E/M Half BTS DA mine. More or less.

>>96721865
E/M mine without camo that can walk when deployed

>>96721362
Is there any website that has older versions of Army still available? Or something like that?

>>96721848
https://infinitythewiki.com/WildParrot

>>96721933
https://www.human-sphere.com/Achilles

Anybody knows what's happening with Acheron's Fall? Always thought it looked mildly interesting, but I can't seem to find any remotely recent updates about it

>>96722366
https://gamefound.com/en/projects/ramperdesign/acherons-fall/updates

>>96722366
I believe they started production in august, they should ship before the end of the year.

>>96722437
Probably gonna buy this model even if I have no intention of running it, goddamn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LfbUdwj80Y&t=536s

>>96722628
It's a LE-model.

>>96722863
LE as in comes with the first batch of the action pack, an "event exclusive" sold in separate box like all similar releases, or an ITS pack exclusive?

>>96722708
the juggernaut is soishit, isn't it

>>96722863
And it looks like it's exclusively bundled with Next Wave pre-orders, damn.

>>96722984
It's a pre-order LE.

>>96722984
>>96723044
Maybe they'll eventually release a different posed version of the model as they've done in the past

>>96721897
>>96721916
That's cool

>>96721492
No way fag

>>96721492
Probably not, because CB would have put other RE references there

When's the official Human Wave release date anyway?

>>96723815
>If you’re among the first to place your order, you’ll get early access and receive your products one month before everyone else.
November sounds like

>>96721120
>have you tried asking the CB:I ai chick if the EI take baths?
I remember some proompters in here wrangling the bellibot into writing Joan softporn shortly after it came out.

>>96723031
You must be out of touch. Everything S6+ switched to Unicool a while back.
The Steeljaw is, though.

>>96723044
>exclusively bundled
Nah, you can just buy it. https://store.corvusbelli.com/en/infinity/wargame/miniatures/glyph-warcor-pre-order-exclusive-edition

>>96725635
I might have inaccurate info, but the Juggernaut looks slightly brownish like soishit is, and the Tekdraken is bluish.

>>96725635
The Steeljaw is also Unicool. He says it in the video.

>>96725635
>Nah, you can just buy it. https://store.corvusbelli.com/en/infinity/wargame/miniatures/glyph-warcor-pre-order-exclusive-edition
That's very nice of CB, but doesn't that kinda defeat the point of having a pre-order exclusive mini if you can just order it? Lol.
I guess if you order the whole bundle you get it for free, but still.

>>96725635
>>96725699
>No other civilization has so many news agencies, nor ones that are so objective, because for Evolved Intelligence they are the yardstick that allows it to continuously improve its society.
Repeat after me:
GOOD
GUYS

>>96725666
You don't have to guess, it's in the description on the store.
>https://store.corvusbelli.com/en/infinity/wargame/miniatures/juggernauts-armored-assault-brigade-multi-hmg
>This box includes a plastic resin miniature of a Juggernaut
Plastic Resin is CB-speak for Unicool, Thermoplastic is Siocast.

>>96725673
Odd, the store description claims it's thermoplastic.
>https://store.corvusbelli.com/en/infinity/wargame/packs/next-wave-action-pack
>Some of the miniatures in this product are made of thermoplastic.

>>96725804
Sandtrap is also marked as being part thermal plastic and as far as I know it's only some places or batches where the backpacks are thermal plastic. Because all mine came as metal. So it might be some backpacks are thermoplastic again. The Steeljaw definitely has the sheen of a unicool mini in the video though. CB's dogshit siocast doesnt get that sheen from my experience.

>>96725785
honestly it can be both at the same time until they clarify
it really depends on if you think achilles and pandora's plans are sound

>>96726296
What fiendish plans...

>>96725635
Sadly I live somewhere CB doesn't ship to and the only redistributor I know of only sells the bundle. Hopefully I can nab it off ebay eventually, I guess

>>96725635
>https://store.corvusbelli.com/en/infinity/wargame/miniatures/glyph-warcor-pre-order-exclusive-edition
>22.5 EUR for a single S2 model
I checked my CB order history to see how long it's been since I ordered something from them, and it was depressing to recall that 6 years ago a single S2 blister was only 14.5 EUR.

newfaggot JSA player here, what is the most ideal scenario to use smoke/eclipse?
behind full cover and using speculative bs attack and hoping to make the roll?
shooting behind partial cover and triggering an ARO?
can I ARO with these visibility control options?
Im still picking between shiny shindenbutai and oban

>>96727385
Slice the pie by getting the most miniscule LOS of whe you need the center of the smoke and thrown it unopposed.. Defensive smokes are last resorts when you get shot.

>>96727525
its so toit

>eclipse gernade lawnchairs
>discoballers

>>96722457
>Research Fireteam
>Pandora + 4 Tekdrakens
>plus twin Jug Heavies team
Sure it's only 30-odd points left over for actually useful shit, but consider: six space lizards. The Juggernaut steed is called a Proto-Lion but what's catlike about it?

>>96729150
more snow lion or soemething

>>96720849
Full-volume long hair is no longer kosher.

>>96729295
siiiiiiiigggggh, what happened, I blame cyberpunk

>>96729295
If you swapped the purple our for red this chick would look straight out of OCF/Next Wave. Since the design is from 2017, I wonder if the idea was "what if we made ALEPH Ko Dali?".

>>96727093
>14.5 EUR 6 years ago
That's around 18 EUR in today's money. Inflation.

>>96729543
Poor Ko Dali...
Her joining CA was so long ago people forget she ever was YJ and now Achilles and co. stole her game.

>>96730290
Bit and KISS are there too I guess.

>>96730295
For me it was Switch.

>>96730298
Im surprised they didnt try to shoe horn in Toni Macayana somehow

I can only wish for an xcom lite in you rag tag a sqaud from the major human sphere powers and eventually choose to work with aleph or the EI
also achilles and gang will be initial rivals and the more indian inspired aleph sectorial will be the opposite

>>96729543
>>96730290

So now our girl Kerrigan can go freely home and say hi to the folks?


Wow, I’m just revving up for an Infinity:RPG campaign and this throws a very interesting spanner in the works of the Wilderness of Mirrors, especially since they were leaning towards an Aleph-only party which now has an actual political and diplomatic opposition on the Human Sphere scale instead of just the Nomads being fussy.

BTW: is there a resource for lore only, or does it have to be picked out piece by piece from the wargame rule updates books?

Like…what do the Nomads think of this new faction?

Has the UrEgemony already presented a competitor in Aristea?

OOOOOOOOh boy this is so awesome

>>96730392
I wouldnt be surprised if nomads would also hate this faction and are pure human supremacist

>>96730405
Nomad hate everybody on principle, they’re a faction of teenage edgelords.

Also they hold grudges and are separate enough from the rest of the Human Sphere to be able to semi-openly disregard a peace treaty with the EI.

But maybe the EI has the capability to breach Arachne, which could mean that Aleph might be interested in negotiating the sharing of such technology. Or steal it and reverse-engineer it. Or both. Probably both.

Shit. I’m so jacked about this.
I’M JACKED TO THE TITS!

Okay, played my first 300p game at LGS. Not exactly full since in two hours we managed to play two turns but still. Annihilation, Kestrel (mine) vs Hassasins. On pic table and my deployment, one Fusilier was proxy for Fennec, later used two Ariadna troops as proxy for two Jackals, Squalo on reserve. These concentrated guys near Griffin ended up receiving two flame-something template weapons right at my first activation, Griffin also some E/M weapon from three hidden deployment guys but, to be honest, I had no idea how could I otherwise place them (was acting first, deploying first). Single activation ended up with Griffin isolated and immobilized, Yamabushi and Fennec paramedic dead. My turn ended with also Squalo isolated and immobilized. Probably would lose in longer run but it was still valuable experience. But full game would probably take 4 hours or something.

Used this army list: axZrZXN0cmVsLWNvbG9uaWFsLWZvcmNlEktlc3RyZWwgYWx0IHRha2UgQYEsAgEACgGHDAEFAAKHFQEBAAOHFQECAASGcwEDAAWHEQEEAAaHCwEFAAeHCwEFAAiHCwEKAAmHCwEHAAqHEgEDAAIABQGHFQEFAAKHFQEFAAMkAQMABIcgAQMABYcRAQMA

Forgot pic.

>>96730947
A bit too even terrain to my tastes. I prefer to make them more uneven and makes more connected section that block movement and firelanes more.

>>96731963
LGS guy was setting the terrain, today we had Infinity planned event and two tables prepared for play.

>>96732013
He was probably aiming for "balance", but balancing in Infinity assumes that different table sides have different advantages.

https://github.com/twonirwana/Infinity-Data
Code to make Infinity cards.

Partially related to CB - I recently glued and primed minis from Eldfall Chronicles which is literally "indie fantasy Infinity" and just want to say that CB should definitely drop Siocast and do Warcrow in Unicool. Difference in quality is so huge it's not even funny and Warcrow being entirely in Siocast is huge disadvantage.

>>96732830
Why does the rider look more masculine here?

>>96733057
Flatter chest

>>96733384
Flat is justice

>>96730392
>is there a resource for lore only, or does it have to be picked out piece by piece from the wargame rule updates books?
No, but the wargame books have very little in the way of rules nowadays so they're usually just fluff with a few missions stuck in the back.

>>96732353
Warcrow isn't entirely Siocast, they started using Unicool with the NT/HoE Cavalry and it's already filtered down far enough that half the Song of the Dormant bundle and both the Guardians of the Mounds and the Husks are Unicool (but all the November releases are Siocast, so it's not really a consistent move).

>>96733670
I don't think there's much of any rules in the newer books, the only part referring to rules or gamemechanics in the N5-book description is
>A themed campaign set in and around the tumultuous events rocking Shinju to its very core. Now you can bring these key moments in the history of the Infinity Universe to your gaming table.

What are y'all going to use in place of the tactical bedrock Juggernaut comes with? Or just keep it?

>>96719743 (OP)
>>96732830
I'm real tempted to get this model despite not really being interested in Next Wave. Maybe I could challenge myself to do the elbow blades with oilslick iridescence meme CB used on the ironjaws

now that we're moving to a lot more non humanoid mechas
POST WHICH ONES WOULD BE COOOOOOOOOL

>>96735776
Give me a very obvious Reaver rippff as CA's airbike pls

Is CB terrain sets any good? What should I get as a beginner?

>>96737514
They're functional.

>>96737514
https://warsen.al/collections/color-printed my local shop has a bunch of the US distributor ones colored out and just need to be popped out and assembled, I sure hope they expand the line

>>96737514
>What should I get as a beginner?
The answer is, as always, shipping containers

>>96740101
yeah there are tin ones at daisos for like a buck or two

why are rocket lawnchairs essentially snipers?

>>96741407
What?

Remotes are so cute but this fucking dogshit shitcast material makes them zero fun to build or paint.

>>96742232
Git gud

>>96742232
How the fuck does material effect the paint?

>>96742909
it does. Primer doesnt react the same in metal or in shitcast

>>96741407
No, they're not. They have the same range as HMGs or panzerfausts, and only the heavy version

>>96743111
>Primer doesnt react the same in metal or in shitcast
Get better primer then.

>>96743365
post models

>>96743389
Okay. Here's a primed Warcrow model with a random pewter figure I also happened to have primed and on hand.

>>96743111
>
Use actual primer and not just random spray paint. Real primers are etching and shrinking.

>>96742232
>>96743111
I use 1 type of rattle can primer, two different brush applied primer, and sometimes even Gesso. All work just as great on metal or "shitcast".

Sounds like you should wash your fucking hands before handling your minis.

Captcha: HA4RD

Kinda burnt out on playing, can anyone recommend a fun model to paint while I take a break?

>>96742909
Because of the low quality casting and mouldslip resulting in poor detail. Bonus points for gates attached right onto detail in some areas.

>>96744158
Get a TAG.

>>96744191
I'd prefer a metal figure

>>96744222
Get an older TAG

>>96744158
>>96744222
armadillo gunslinger. When Nomads go too far.

>>96744186
That's sculpt and casting, not material directly. Once cleaning and priming is done, material is a non-issue when it comes to painting.

>>96744331
yeah the only difference should be requiring a different primer

>>96744331
Don't be obtuse please.

>>96744360
Point where I was wrong.

>>96744253
Hmm, I should see if I can find a Toni Macayana somewhere. I always thought she looked cool as fuck

>>96744222
Get a real TAG.

is it me, or are JSA mecha more of a "for fun" piece sometimes
Ooyori atleast has good shootin

>>96744550
All TAGs are limited to players with BALLS OF STEEL

Little questions related to my first 300p game I mentioned ITT:
1)I thought I can pre-measure zone of control, just can't pre-measure movement and weapon range but other player claimed I can't check anything before finalizing declarations. Was that some N5 change?
2)Likewise I thought that if FT leader attack a target, other FT members with LoS can attack same target as well but again I was told that only FT leader shoot. Is this again N5 change?

Thanks for clarifying.

>>96745481
>1)I thought I can pre-measure zone of control, just can't pre-measure movement and weapon range but other player claimed I can't check anything before finalizing declarations. Was that some N5 change?
I don't think you ever could. No premeasuring is a universal thing. Only time you measure once the game starts is to do the actual checks

>>96745481
>1)I thought I can pre-measure zone of control, just can't pre-measure movement and weapon range but other player claimed I can't check anything before finalizing declarations. Was that some N5 change?
Check the order declaration sequence: https://infinitythewiki.com/Order_Expenditure_Sequence
You can measure ZoC after the active player has moved as part of the ARO declaration. ZoC measurements has always been bit of a pain point during the years with erratas and such, but I don't remember there being a massive change in the last couple of editions.
>2)Likewise I thought that if FT leader attack a target, other FT members with LoS can attack same target as well but again I was told that only FT leader shoot. Is this again N5 change?
Fireteam has never had the whole team firing on their active turn, only during reactive. You may be thinking about Coordinated Orders, which let several active models shoot at once, although with Burst1/Halved Burst depending if they're a Spearhead or not.

>>96744550
Gib new O-Yoroi pilot

>>96747295
are people that touchy on proxying or something
personally I'd just get rid of the mechanic

>>96747295
I'm half tempted to make one after the legally distinct Chimera and clawed/traditional Lizard arms.

>>96747295
Current one looks like she fucks Nomad men (exclusively Corrigador)

>>96747321
they mostly did, pilots don't actually go in the TAGs any more, they are support pieces that give buffs for existing on the table now.

>>96749811
>the face of trustworthy investigative journalism

so basically, the JSA essentials, booster alpha, and tankos would be a good start to oban?

>>96749950
Yup, Pretty much.
Back in the day that was the product combo that most people got into. Different packaging but those miniatures.
JSA has now their own remotes, wich is cool.

>>96749811
>>96749852
We're gonna win a Pulitzer with this one!

>>96749811
>>96749852
>>96750037
Tell me about the alien warjourno. Why does he need a fucking spear?

>>96750250
justa stunlance

>>96750250
To pierce the truth, obviously

>>96750250
It's just a long, angular microphone, kinda like the zoomers' beloved selfie stick

>>96750312
Selfie-sticks are millenial-core, althoughbeit.

>>96750567
I mean he IS introduced with the "next wave"

>>96750250
It's a journalist like those Al-Jazeera journalists, if you catch my drift.

>>96752758
>Haqqislam is the goodest of goodboys

Just curious, is there something like a template for making own unit profiles or stuff like that? Just to make minis for custom scenarios or something like that.

>>96752758
>this sectorial wants the cliche of being traitors and evil
>so let's paint them red and black, give them an unhealthy pallor and otherwise make them as close to generic mooks as possible
Also fuck it, I'm making my Meatwave as evil as possible. They're the whip and knife of the oppressor and will look the part.

>>96752936
To be fair, it sounds like the lead designer was a bit at odds with the rest of the design team, and they're still meant to be morally ambiguous antiheroes with their fair share of skeletons in their closet. For every Achilles or resistance fighter you've got fighting what they think is the good fight you've got your share of criminals and mercenaries who just found a new employer or indoctrinated citizen who earnestly believes in the EI.

It sounds like a jumbled mess of a faction, in a good way.

>>96752758
The fact that Achilles of all people turned coat is great, what an absurdly powerful little bitch (just like his namesake)

>>96752936
I wonder who's behind this post...

>>96720894
Male sexuality is toxic and should be suppressed. Keep up.

Frankly, the Observance has the right idea. Men shouldn't have rights. They're there to lift heavy things and to shut up and do what they're told.

>>96747760
Speaking of, getting close to done with the Chimera. Roughing out a bonus diorama model for the NSFW package.

>>96755364
Oh hell yeah dude, you've done great work

>>96755364
Where's the dick? Chimeras should be full package.

>>96756904
It's a retracting model

Saladin has Inspiring Presence now.

>>96758467
Only the best rules for the bestest of boys

>>96757433
Chekiri bekiri

>>96760363
>Ruby Monday is in both OSS and Next wave
Surprising ALEPH lets her get away with it.

>>96760529
its just all apart of keikaku

>>96760693
>Ko Dali gets recruited by ALEPH

>>96761130
but in actually, ALEPH most hidden inside man on the EI is GLYPH WAR CORRESPONDENT

>FAQ
>Can you vault while Climbing or Jumping?
>Yes. Climb and Jump follow the General Movement Rules, including vaulting.
YESSSSSS no longer are my Super Jump units stymied by chest-high walls around every roof edge

>>96760693
> ALEPH Note: keikaku means plan

>>96761549
>ALEPH machine translates everything emulating the style of turn of the millenium amateur anime-translators

>>96762018
considering all the people she remade, I wouldn't be surprised.
ALEPH COULD DO WORSE

man, I wonder how much longer till all of chinks have a loose allegiance with the EI just to fuck with ALEPH

>>96763053
Why would chinks want to fuck with ALEPH?

>drakios FT master
>rain dancers
>steel jaws
is this what he wanted?

>>96760363
>new CA Remotes are Cyberplugged so the Medchanoid can use them as heavy-duty Slave Drones

>>96764482
>Cyberplugged
>ctrl f on pdf
thats a lot...

>>96763338
I like this profile. I can understand it.

So fucntionally Cyberplug is just Puppetbots on crack? They get to stay and spend orders even with Dr Worm kicks the bucket?

>>96765322
the EI need MORE

>>96763088
Who wouldn't want to fuck with Aleph? I mean, look at Asuras and posthumans bodies...

I swear whoever is in charge at CB has a massive boner for CA

>>96765702
Who wouldn't? It's the good guy faction.

>>96765702
CB as a company is not in a good spot right now.
These last 2 updates: bringing back the sectorials, coming up with a new army, fixing old armies, new rules... these are Panic Moves.
CB is probably not selling enough of their miniatures to sustain such SKU bloat.
They are barely making it, head above the water. Read between the lines and you'll see a company scared of loosing their customer base. Another mistep like the "Reinforcements" thing and they're gone.

We can ask for whatever we want. They are as vulnerable as those Kickstarter companies during the last 2 weeks of their campaign. A single negative comment can make the whole structure collapse.

for us, Infinity players? we've never been in a better spot. You want the Taqeul? Ask for it on Facebook and make noise about it. You'll have it in 2 weeks.

>>96766108
I'm not complaining, in fact, we should be tahnkful for a Company to care about the balance of their game so much. Deserves applause.
Frankly, if the company were making BIG numbers they wouldn't be so dedicated and focused on the game, they would be behaving like spoiled cryptobros with zero self criticism.

CB delivers their best when they are starving for attention like they obviously are right now.

>>96766108
I'm not signing up for facebook but someone should tell them to put the squalo mk1 back in NCA.

https://youtu.be/zeUX9z3Lcpc?si=lsO5LFZ0LVjldTbo
What a clutch

>>96719743 (OP)
non-infinity player here, I have a question for you guys.
Whenever I see people playing Infinity it seems to be the same colour schemes for each faction - is it only lore friendly to have for example blue PanOceania or red Combined Army? Or are there different schemes?

>>96766922
There are "official" alt-colorschemes and ofc you're free to paint your own models however you like. I guess people stick to variants to the most common ones for convenience.

>>96766108
>bringing back the sectorials, coming up with a new army, fixing old armies, new rules... these are Panic Moves.
Stopped reading there, you're just a moron. CB already said they were going to be bringing back sectorials and fixing old armies. They made that clear the instant that they confirmed that they were stripping the number of sectorials back for the launch of N5. These were not surprise releases, nor were they sudden pivots and capitulations to a riotous customer base; the sectorials are old and no one played them, so updating them to N5 was low priority, but their reintroduction has been the plan since day one. You can find blog posts and videos from before N5 launched stating as much.

But the average 4channer has the memory of a goldfish and a love of contrived drama, so of course the narrative instead become "CB is dying (for real this time, not like the other 18 times people said this was happening)! The Fans(TM) have forced them to return our beloved sectorials and they are floundering for our support!"

>>96766949
> sectorials are old and no one played them
Wrong, Varuna was played a lot, and its entire model range was in production, right till N5 dropped.

Next Wave is up in the Army.

>>96768071
jesus christ

I've watched shepherd terrain presentation, but are there any papercraft templates for people who want to "grey box" terrain before committing to a certain set?

>>96768559
*By the Evolved Intelligence*

>>96720838
These are uninspired

>>96769726
You lost, alephie

Do we still know what Techorganic does?

>>96770952
that the whole medipack/gizmo use on techorganic to heal them with?

>>96770952
It's in Rules v5.2. Means the owner can be fixed by either docs or engies. Only works when they're unconscious though, no Engineering your HI back up to 2W.

>>96768071
Kind of surprising they didn't use this update to move Infinity into CorvuSphere alongside the Warcrow one.

Should I play some smaller games first before expanding out to 300pts, or should I really have 300pts ready to go for my first army? Going with Shasvastii if that matters

>>96772336
Yeah, play a few small games first.

>>96772561
Understood. Should I be okay with just grabbing the action pack for the time being? I did get the missile launcher noctifier cause I thought he was cool, but is there anything else I’d “need” for just starting off with the shas?

>>96772592
Yeah get the big Action Pack, but really your best bet for your first couple games is like 3 x Noxes + 1 Gwailo against a similarly small force, like they do with the Essentials. Just to get a grasp of the mechanics. You can then gradually add more models and more complex rules.
https://youtu.be/o12rSYVxrIs?list=PLezeobmvoZ7jlazNIY2e3BqgRI9BLJTez
Check out the Essentials youtube videos by CB, they are meant exactly for new players.

>>96772592
Starting with 2-3 line troopers and something interesting (so 75-100 points) is a good way to learn the game. Introduce one rule after the other, but make sure to learn camo early. You technicaly could play shas without, but why. Also speculos can feel broken at low point games, so be advised to not kill your enemies will to even play infinity by playing 2 in sup 250point games.

Your collection will grow naturally. Action pack is a very good start for shas. If you want to expand i would go with the following:
- basic REM box
- victor messer / a speculo
- 2 shrouded (or things to use as shrouded) / dukash
- smg malignos / another speculo
- ikadrons

Sphinx is hard to use, but can and will win games alone if your enemy doesn't know what to do against the sphinx. Great model though, was fun to paint.

The action pack is already brutally good. I love a haris with sheskiin, disco baller tensho and a paramedic nox. Also the gwailo hrl+jayth disco/chain rifle is very versatile.
Only the poor taighas i couldn't get to work, but at least the, are extremly cheap to get on ebay if you realy want them. I have 4 and never used more than 2. And even then i should have used the points better by upgrading a seed soldier to something better.
2 R-drones are a good change from the update, so maybe you might even want a second rem box down the line. But everyone will tell you to get more REMs anyways i think.

hello infinitybros, can you explain how support for sectorials works with CB? Do they just keep rolling out new sectorials and leaving old ones behind, or is there some hope for reprints? I'm interested in starting with the Neoterran Capitoline Army but it seems to be out of production

>>96772618
I’ve been watching those videos and pouring over the rules just to come to terms with stuff for the time being, they’ve been very helpful. Hopefully I can find someone that wants to play smaller games, not sure if there even is a scene in my area or not
>>96772652
Cheers for the advice. Victor seems cool but I hate how he comes in that pack with 2 other cunts I care not at all for.
>Sphinx is hard to use, but can and will win games alone if your enemy doesn't know what to do against the sphinx.
I do want to get one at some point. My plan for getting to 300pts if anons said to go for that would have just been to buy the action pack, sphinx and the nox box and to make do with that for a while.

>>96772718
They aim for roughly three sectorials per faction. Usually, as new ones come out, current ones go out of catalogue (but not always, sometimes they just rework and update existing ones).
Out-of-catalogue sectorials remain playable (NCA just received a big rules update), but it may be difficult for you to find the models if you don't already have them.
OOP sectorials usually eventually receive a big update with new models, new box, etc. and come back to production.

>>96772750
>usually
Usually is a strong word. Of the sectorials that went out of production, the only ones to receive a proper re-launch were Shas and Steel Phalanx, and in both cases they weren't OOP for very long. The rest of them got a token model release in the form of Reinforcements packs (FRRM, NCA, etc.), or nothing.

>>96772767
>and in both cases they weren't OOP for very long.
Yeah I guess neglected would have been more accurate. I was thinking stuff like ISS or Bakunin.

>>96772718
>can you explain how support for sectorials works with CB?
No, not even CB can at this point.
They said multiple times that 3 sectorials per faction is their goal, then introduce yet another pano sectorial anyways. CB is special like that. Rule of thumb, if its in the army tool it'll stay in the army tool for the foreseeable future. Even old sectorials that have practicaly been dead since n2 (acon, mrrf, cha, QK, tohaa)are updated in the sense that their rules stay roughly competative. As long as you don't want to start tohaa you'll be fine.
Reprints are a thing that CB has done in the past, but it's not a regular thing.

If you want to start with neoterra now its weird. The pano reinforcements is basicaly a neoterra starter, but a few key models are only aviable 2nd hand (uhlan, hexas, auxilia). If you are fine with that, or willing to proxy them with their modern counterparts (any light tag for uhlan, drummers for auxilia, blink for hexa) you can get pretty much any list built. Just don't expect to get a wysiwyg list this decade. Conversions are fun for me, so that never bothered me at all, but converting metal is an acquired taste.

If i remember correctly swiss guard and aquila are freely accessible, and those are huge. Same with stuff like garuda and locust.

Bolts, blockers and blade-ops are new sculpts that will stay relevant for a while, fusiliers are in that essentials stuff.
So yeah, starting neoterra is quite possible, if you don't mind getting the reinforcements box twice and converting what you need. At least that would be how i would do it.
But again, i like converting. Swapping weapons is fun for me. Grafting a nisse msrs arms with a bolt to get a bolt msr would be my first act, desu.

>>96772719
I don't like the nox box, but thats more because i don't want to field more than one nox anyways. Many people use them as seed soldiers though, so what do i know. If you like the models get them, but i don't think i ever made a list with a lot of nox, even though you can get a pretty serviceable core out of them with octavia or a marksmanshipped t-drone.

>>96772718
This is NCA's current status.

>>96772915
>bolts are the poster boys for NCA
>only 2 bolt models are still in production
What DID CB mean by this

>>96772999
CB's treatment of bolts is weird. Everybody thought the models were cool when they were released but they sucked in terms of rules. Then eventually CB buffed them to be good but then almost immediately put them OOP so nobody who didn't buy them when they sucked could get them. Then they released the reinforcements with okay but not as good resculpts. Then removed NCA. Then only just now brought NCA back. I don't think they really know what they're doing.

>>96773020
some one is just getting into their AAAAYYYYYLMAO fetish phase, as in CA will get one more sectorial full of blue ayyyylmaos who look like humans

>>96773026
>as in CA will get one more sectorial full of blue ayyyylmaos who look like humans
I'd expect a fraacta sectorial that steals Tohaa's gimmicks first. Blumans are just nomads.

>>96773020
I feel like this can apply to a lot of things
>Make whole sectorial for druze
>"Awesome, those OG druze models are fucking sick so it'll be cool t-"
>Discontinue the line and make 4 'meh-to-shit' druze sculpts
>Then proceed to discontinue 1 of them which could feasbily be used as a combi-rifle proxy
>2 Druze characters don't even look like druze
>1/3 of the actual druze models has their fucking helmet visor off (the thing that makes them cool) and it's the profile you're most likely to use other than the killer hacker
>Special druze hacker doesn't even wear the cool armour and shit and is just some bitch in a jacket
I'll never not be mad. I know it was unreasonable to expect literally a whole army of druze but if i'm playing the druze army I want to be able to use more than 2 or 3 druze models CB

>>96773020
>CB's treatment of bolts is weird.
Follow me with this timeline of the Bolts historee with CB:
>CB releases Bolst by the end of N2 but with N3 already being made.
>Peopl do not undertsand why the Bolts had Combi Rifle + Shotgun when shotguns were meaningless in N2.
>N3 comes up and everybody realises the point of such weapon.
>CB releases the Neoterra starter pack with 3 bolts and 3 other previously released figures.
>Fans complain and ask for Bolts to be releaed separately. The blister with 3 figures comes out the price is 15€. Becomes the best selling blister that year.
>CB makes a special Neoterra Bolt based on the Cosplayer Tabitha Lyons who is hired to show up at Gencon that year. 200 copies are sold in one hour even before the cosplayer reaches the booth.
>CB releases the Neoterra Bolts SWC pack. sales are low due to the fact thta everybody bought the 15€ blister of Combi Bolts.
>Neoterra loses momentum because Winterfor and Varuna show up.
>Fans complain saying that 2020 fireteams are much better than the NCA fireteams.
>CB release the increibly fullfilling "Reinforcements" rules and creates Code Capitol full of NCA units with new miniatures, two Bolts are there.
>October 2025. CB brings back NeoTerra. Updated a la N5. Now everybody complains that they want to buy NCA miniatures.

Kind of like that.

>>96773121
You forgot to mention that the Druze blue hair hacker bitch was the pre-order figure for Human Sphere N3 and thus everybody got a copy of that girl... leading to:- "hey I might make a Druze army to deploy her."

But what we want is a box of 4 manly druze looking intimidating and badass and when they make females they make the box LESS attractive.

>>96773243
>we
Don't include me in your deep dark fantasies, thx.

>>96773308
This. I want my warcriminals sexy and unrealistic.

I haven't said it recently but I need to restate how much I fucking HATE ASSEMBLING ANY FUCKING MODEL HOLDING A GUN WITH TWO HANDS

>>96773664
Issue
of
Skill

When I played my first 300p game last week, it took us 4 hours total to play single round (setup, my round and other player round). Are 300p games normally that long?

>>96774482
Only if you have to look up every little thing.

>>96774482
> PanO has more sectorials than anyone else
> Still whine
Fuck off

>>96774482
Beginners and those with chronic analyzis paralyzis do that doe

>>96774539
How is my long game connected with PanO sectorial number?

>>96775022
Schizo mixed up the post numbers I bet

>>96775022
Some just like to hear themselves whine. Especially those who dont play and come into this general.

Been playing the game for a long time, once you understand the flow, rules, and general knowledge you can set up, play, and take down a game in about 4 hours.
With table chatter my group gets a game in around 4-5hours.

>>96774482
do your home work kinda thing

My games usually take around two hours plus setup and teardown

>>96776202
Setup and teardown sucks...
If only everyone else were fine with us leaving the tables as is.

>>96779310
my local allows us to use his terrain and he even just leaves the terrain on a table for us to set

>>96769783
We all lost, anon

>>96773064
>fraacta sectorial
Sygmaa is the group, Fraacta are just a unit.

>>96780308
Sygma male energy...

Sugma male

>haven't played games with MO since the beginning of N5
>Busy taking care of family and house
>Robert Shepherd tier list dorps
>they are gushing over MO
>check the update
WHAT THE FUCK!! did CB finally unlock MO from its strict list building order? They now have real Chain of Command options? De Fersen has a better Hacking device? KoJ gains Number 2 and Lt option?

I need to really rethink how to build lists for them and get them on a table.

>>96782559
>broke
Plays with the strongest meta-army
>bespoke
Plays with the weakest meta army, this way your quality as a tactician is unquestioned when you win

>>96782598
I just think it is fucking cool. oh my goodness for the longest fucking time I felt like there were only three lists and two ways to play MO but this is a cool change. I am soo used to building the pain train or Tik list but now it looks WAY more adventagous to run more duos? that fucking Sepulchure MSV1 looks so fucking cool. like Crosiers now have an MSV2 HMG is fucking wild. holy moly. I got a headache thinking about all the different things I can try now.

How do I set up boards? Every time I try they end up total shit.

>>96782627
Shit in what way?

>>96782632
I'm not exactly sure how to describe it, but they just don't feel fun at all. Either there's no room to move or there's easy positions that someone can put a rocket launcher or sniper at and hit a ton of space. Trying to get out of the deployment zone always feels like a chore.

>Trinitarian Tertiaries: new Minelayer option with Forward Observer and Depoyable Repeater.

Order Sergeants: CC 1618; gain Nanopulser; Escort Sergeant (Heavy Rocket Launcher) now has Neurocinetics; Auxbot gains Mimetism (-3).

what da fuuuk. I need to really go back to basics as my old way of building lists is causing me to not understand how to fit some of the new loadout in.

>>96782655
In my playgroup we usually agree that the tallest buildings can't be deployed on, that helps with the sniper tower issue

>>96782677
Check out the Teutons too.

>>96782677
>Order Sergeants: CC 1618

Indeed, quite scary to have model with 1618 in CC, how does that translate into rolls and crits? Or just that other player don't bother with rolling and just remove targeted mini from table?

>>96782730
>Teutonic Knights: Missile Launcher now with BS Attack (-3); Spitfire option now has X-Visor.

Alright, this shit is fucking cool. I am back into the game as I can now make some fun lists now.

>>96782788
You just stab the opponent irl.

>>96782992
>the polish tournament experience

>learning about ITS Season 17
Oh man, I really am starting from the beginning again. what are the most common ITS missions being used this season?

>>96785556
Cordelia has been pretty succesful keeping his big bro alive and committing warcrimes, all things considered.

>>96787710
Fuck he looks like so much fun now. Great change.

>>96772790
> 3 sectorials per faction is their goal, then introduce yet another pano sectorial anyways
...after which PanO had 3 sectorials. Are you retarded?
They teased a new CA sectorial, and that got some people confused before CB brought the axed ones back.

>>96790091
Kek

PanO needs 3 new sectorials, tbqh

>>96787494
Prefer the older one.

>>96790650
Pano NEEDS new female swiss guard and female aquila guard models for NCA.

>>96793059
This.

https://x.com/InfinityTheGame/status/1980243601255715144 just harbringers bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

VGH...

Next wave.

>>96796119
Nice starter pack from back in the day. The body canon was all over the place but they had a lot of charm. Absolutely miles apart from Spess Muhreens.

>>96796135
Who is Ruby Monday?

>>96796169
Some of the best sets CB ever made.

>>96796169
I think it's mainly mixed with Paracommando being ye olde sculpt from the early days of the game. Later they overcompensated with models like briscards who are tiny.

>>96796217
According to her icon's text, a character Sacha.

huuuuh

>>96798248
Same vibes

newfaggot here, so you can't hidden deploy a lieutenant? and they have to be out but you never need to tell your opponent which one is it?

>>96798586
Yes, unless otherwise stated by scenario. Or they use the Lieutenant special order on themselves.

>>96798586
Any hidden deployment model that's not yet revealed is treated as being off the table. You cannot use HD unit as lieutenant since that would count as automatic LoL situation.

>>96798938
>>96799024
noted, I was just curious on why oniwaban had the option.

>>96799055
You can deploy him as a camomarker, as Hidden Deployment is an optional skill. I feel most of these HD lt.s and such are legacy meme options from years back when people sometimes made full retard all ninja lists. It was bad then and it's bad now.

>>96741420
Is it woke? This game looks pozzed

>>96799187
Infinity was woke before it was cool.

>>96799293
Lmao. Hard pass then

>>96799301
The gate has been kept, brothers.

>>96799024
Technically speaking, LoL check is done at the beginning of the player's turn. That means you could *technically* go second, put a Lt in HD, and reveal them at some point during your opponent's first turn. The hitch is that you need something to happen in your Lt's ZoC or LoF for them to declare an ARO and reveal themselves, and if that doesn't happen (e.g. your opponent focuses their orders on the opposite side of the table) you're screwed and start the game in LoL. Also, if something *does* happen that allows your Lt to ARO, that means they're also in danger of being shot, hacked, etc. and generally less safe than they'd be if you just deployed them normally and tucked away in your back line.

You absolutely shouldn't do this, it's risky and brings zero benefit, but technically you can deploy your Lt in HD without starting the game in LoL

Alternatively, you could keep your Lt in HD and have a Chain of Command unit in your list, in which case the Lt role would immediately move to them at the start of your first turn. Again, no real benefit (outside of some potential niche combos I'm unaware of), but at least this version isn't as risky and dumb.

>>96741407
They are more like long-range flamethrowers, no?

>>96799361
Lmao, go get ZUTTed

Can the islamic faction deploy tactical zutts? Or lil moe moe?

>>96799187
its hot garbage

>>96796169
>Absolutely miles apart from Spess Muhreens
I think they're miles apart from many new CB sets even.

>>96802438
>>96802438
>>96802438
nextwave