Thread 96725878

Slopception Edition

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>Search engines
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>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
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>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96723615

>TQ
Yo piggie, I heard you like slop so I put slop in your slop so you can slop while you slop

>tq
i like driftslop for this card
i want more mecha slop

/slop\s|slop\W/i;boards:tg;reason:brown;stub:no

>>96725878 (OP)
forgot the title retard

>>96725918
Is the game even Magic any more?

>>96725908
I wish they made an alt of this one

>>96725908
One day we'll get a mecha-heavy set
Kamigawa+Mirrodin planar merge

>>96725927
Branding: The Gathering is certainly more apt.

>>96725918
It was rushed like the upcoming sets, but we piggies will eat the thread like usual

At this point, would being bought out by Konami be any worse than what we currently have?

>>96725914
>/slop\s|slop\W/i;boards:tg;reason:brown;stub:no
What's that in English? Is it some proompter speak I'm too human to comprehend?

Konami doesn't even want to keep ygo
But it'd be cool if we got Cyber Dragon in mtg

>>96725905
just stay the hell away from Jamuraa with ur bullshit

>>96725974
I've been so focused on slop posting, I didn't have time to work on the actual thread

PIGGIES MUTANTS SLOP ENJOYERS
PIGGIES MUTANTS SLOP ENJOYERS
PIGGIES MUTANTS SLOP ENJOYERS
IS THAT ANOTHER UB SET? TIME TO BUY

>>96725878 (OP)
I feel like TMNT is some weird psyop. Almost nobody I know gives a single fuck about TMNT in reality, it's just a thing millennial retards pretend to be nostalgic for. Their nostalgia never seems sincere, it's just "yeah i'm an 80s/90s kid so i GOTTA love the turtles"
maybe they did at one point, but it's so rooted in childhood. Nobody cares about TMNT past the age of 14, but they still play Final Fantasy and watch Spiderman movies etc. who the FUCK cares about TMNT other than Funko pop retards? Maybe the tiniest percentage of comic book "urm actually it was a violent parody of Daredevil before it became a kids show" but they certainly don't care for the direction it ended up taking. I swear to god I don't know who the fuck keeps trying to make it relevant.

>>96725987
Nothing you need to worry your pretty little head about, Pablo

>>96726005
>but they still play Final Fantasy
nigga Final Fantasy has had one game people actually care about in the past 20 years, and it's an MMO

>>96725987
It's some piggie getting triggered about humans making fun of him having his snout submerged in slop

>>96725988
cope trannoid
mtg will always get slop forever
chadgioh won

>>96725987
It's a special code on the back of the slop box that the piggies are buying, it helps filter out any dissenting opinions to allow for them to enjoy their slop without being bothered by things like 'facts'.

>>96725987
It's a filter line for the addon that, I'm guessing, hides posts with the word 'slop' in it and then leaves a visible stub of the post with 'brown' written on it so the (also very likely a mutt themselves) filterer can feel a little smug about skin color?
Probably because they're a piggie who likes slop and is getting triggered over being called out for swine-like tastes.

>>96726005
you have no idea how big the tmnt collectors market is
my lgs caters to it, its fucking insane what people will pay

>>96725878 (OP)
I played and enjoyed the LOTR set. I played it on Arena. I helped usher in the slopwave. I'm sorry.

Melding is alright
Double sided cards are ok
When will we get a new summoning mechanic in mtg
Something like overlaying any two cards with the same cmc and casting another card from deck, hand or sideboard
>>96726032
>chadgioh

>Wizards realizes their artists and AI are so bad they can't get hands right, ever
>Will now only do properties like TMNT where the hands have the wrong number of fingers

when's that WWE set dropping?

>>96726040
So this set will sell insanely well but not actually do anything to grow the playerbase?

>>96726055
He's perfect for my Ms. Elizabeth Commander deck!

>>96726055
orzhov cards have w then b in their mana cost silly

>>96726055
Should make a 1/1 Virgil Token.

>>96725987
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression

>>96726055
>I play Sweltering Summer of '92
>Target Wrestler creature gets -5/-0 and loses all abilities until end of turn
KWAB

>>96725927
It's just "The Gathering".

>>96726055
>>96726094
top kek

>>96726055
I read WW II set at first.

>>96726055
never, we already have a kino card game

I'm kind of interested in this product. A non-commander 60 card casual format sounds like it can be a nice shakeup to the table. Has anyone played enough Against the Horde to tell me how that normally goes? Also is MtG Clue is worth anything besides the land reprint?

>>96725878 (OP)
I have to wonder is this the worst the game has been ever? I’m seeing negativity even outside of here.

>>96726154
I heard things got pretty bad around chronicles

>>96726154
Everything has turned to slop now and companies are churning out more slop than ever because the consumer base who actually spends money is getting tired of the sloppification of everything.

>>96725993
We can only hope.

>>96726159
honestly pretty based

>>96726154
It is. Four fucking UB sets next year with fucking boring premises and then 3 normal magic sets where two of them are just return sets and the final one is some le ebin story climax that they will botch 100%.
The TMNT will be Spiderman 2.0, the superheroes set will be Spiderman 3.0, then the Hobbit will be shit like the movies and they will have to stretch the source material like hell.
This will then be finished with fucking Star Trek which will surely be complete ass

>>96726154
>hmm is Reality Fracture a UB set? I don't know that franchise.
>"The Multiverse Meets its Match"
oh. So this will finally be where Jace meets Professor X or whatever

>>96726188
At this point, MaRo's denials of the streams crossing is good evidence that the streams will very much cross and sooner than you might expect

stop

>>96726186
>tfw I can finally buy the legacy staples I want for cheap because nobody else on the planet plays the game

>>96726188
retard

>>96725908
I liked the brightglass version better, they made a deckbox for it and it looks like exodia is doing goatse, even the placement of the art makes it look like he's bending over and showing hole. Yes I own one

>>96726207
I laughed again.
Good image

>>96726098
muslims think magic is haram so now this card game is about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

>>96726159
>tmnt autist has a job and has fun, even knows karate
wholesome and based

It is 2026. You think you’re prepared for the Super Shredder and Sephiroth meta, but outlying rogues decks like Toph-Picard control have a chance to Top8. Thankfully there’s enough Avengers and X-men sideboard cards to help.

comp rules should be updated to say that every time a player says "Oink!" he gains 1 life

"Hat Sets" looking pretty good in hindsight.

>>96726122
if this gets ported to TTS i will shoot play with peedub bros

>>96726241
>Is that... Is that a THOR'S HAMMER? OH MY GOD, IT IS! Sloppety McPigsnout has won the Pro Tour Star Trek (sponsored by Mountain Dew)!

>>96726249
No, kill yourself
The proliferation of UB is a direct response to literally nobody wanting to touch the steaming cesspool that is the post-MOM setting

>>96726219
Looks cool.
But mtg accesories cost way too much even for a paper playmat with crayon drawn bland and boring art no one would ever buy.
It's not about money for me, i could easily buy one, but it's rather what i'm paying the money for.

>>96726241
This is grim. Nothing and i mean even the worse moments of this game including shit like Eldrazi Winter will be comparable to see the World Champions deck to have cards like Donatello, Enterprise, She-Hulk or Pizza lands.

The future of Magic is doomed.

This shit
Is so ass

im still mad that bebop n rocksteady is shit...
Why not have partners in gruul colours? of all things they're golgari...
Also the villains should also had their own unique partner thing, apart from shredder i remember there being a lot of villain teamups.

GO EAT SLOP GO!
GO EAT SLOP GO!
GO GO GO!

>>96726249
hmmm no

>>96726249
Is it so wrong to want good sets that are neither hat sets nor UB slop?

>>96725878 (OP)
>a fucking Turtles set
this can't be real lmfaoooooo who is this for, seriously? I get people buying Spiderman, maybe even Avatar, and especially LOTR and FF, but does Turtles really have a fanbase as big as any of those?

HQ sloppa

me in my slop room, full of consumer slop

>>96726327
Oh now I see the kind of customer base that WotC is chasing for… LMFAO

>>96726324
Kinda
The thing with TMNT is it gets rebooted pretty much once per generation but the corollary is that literally every kid in America will at least hear of it at some point
Its manchild demographic is very devoted but smaller and less obnoxious than Marvel's

>>96726326
The rest are at least plausible, but wtf is this one supposed to be? Are those weird banana peppers?

>>96726366
onion and banana

>>96726326
>>96726330
>>96726335
>>96726338
>>96726343

I would have much prefered manhole covers with the elemental signs rather than this shit. Easily among the worst set of lands...

>>96726326
still unsure if that's supposed to be a slice of pickle or what the fuck

>>96726326
https://www.artstation.com/gaboleps

not sloppa
i get it why anyone would think that though
i used to paint digitally like that too

>>96726366
Garlic and banana

what bothers me the most is how yellow is the most prevalent color on all the lands, make hard as fuck to read gamestates

>>96726376
>he likes chubby bitches
based based based based based based based

>>96726335
How is he holding the pizza?

>>96726326
>plain pizza
>has the most amount of stuff on it
>>96726338
>chaotic red pizza
>the humble pepperoni

>>96726370
>>96726381
Yes those bits on the sides are onions, but I'm talking about the center. Bananas I could see, but nobody puts entire cloves of garlic on pizza like that.

>>96726383
Much like the black-and-white lands from Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow

>>96726376
you know you can slop generate and draw over it right?
the entire composition and ingredents scream sloppa

>>96726389
>pigga

>>96726404
halved chili peppers?

>>96726411
if an artists like that uses ai to slop some picture to paint over it, he would be a fucking retard because an artist with mileage can paint that shit in 30 minutes instead of spending hours trying to fix slop mistakes

Post your work

>>96726404
They're slices of garlic, the green in the middle gives it away. It's definitely a stretch, they should've done pineapple slices instead

>>96726434
It's more likely he got a commission for 5 lands with a deadline of like 2 weeks and then wizards gave him a bunch of revisions to do so he used AI to re-gen certain areas

>>96726395
ai does not care about physics

>>96726449
>re-gen certain areas
Not how AI works
You'd have better results playing the lottery

>>96726449
You've made AI into a bogeyman that can do anything, you obviously don't understand how it works lol

>>96726395
He's not, he's in the middle of picking it up

>>96726475
How, there's no fingers under the pizza, his thumb isn't touching it

>>96726475
You mean putting it down?

>>96726482
he picked up but dropped because it's too hot

>>96726395
It's being partially gripped by his middle finger. Masterful ninja technique, you see.

>>96726055
Two dying brands for the sloppiest of piggies, I can see it happening unironically

>watch Olive's previews
>most of the cards are again "won't see much play outside commander"

>>96726338
Are...
Are those fucking raspberries?

>>96726125
>Against the Horde
https://against-the-horde.com/
Fancy site, I didn't know it.
I just use a deck with mixed spells and token cards and I apply freely the horde rules: three setup turns, then three draws per turn (if a spell is drawn it stops the turn and is cast targetting the highest costed defender), creatures attack with haste. On your turn you can attack the deck to remove cards. When more than half the deck has been drawn, add two extra draws from the horde deck (casting spells doesn't prevent these secondary draws). You don't need to buy a product. Build your own cube with chaff to make it a more open game if you don't want to play with constructed decks.

>>96726040
I live in Europe and I don't know of a single turtle fan. I think I saw a live action movie about 20 years ago but I don't remember any of it. Wotc should hire me to get actual good collabs, this is a disgrace. Even better they could stop doing UB altogether.

>ninjas
>don't have ninjutshitsu

>>96726482
>>96726490
His palm (directly below the first row of knuckles) is pushing forward on the back of the crust, lifting it up and also causing it to fold because it's soggy (you can see where it's bending directly below the black symbol). His index and middle finger are in the process of pushing into it overhand, with the index into the crust and the middle into the cheese, while his thumb is bending inward, fingernail in the cheese string, moving to support it from underneath.
I can't believe I'm having to hyperanalyze a fucking memeland because of you AI-obsessed retards

>>96726505
>ninja
It's Bebop's hand

>>96726609
That's not what your finger s would look like if it was lifting with only the fingers and palm. It's clearly fucked up

>>96726609
Is it? I thought it was meant to be Splinter's hand, because the other four are meant to be each of the turtles.

>>96726616
it's some sort of lizard by the looks of it, it probably has unseen talonlike things on the underside of his hand

>>96726631
It's definitely Splinter, he's Black in the commander precon

Someone fucked up the number of fingers on this card lol

>if art is not hyperrealistic and doesn't look exactly like a photograph and doesn't obey every single law of the universe it must be AI!
I'm rather thinking the artist just fucked up the painting layers and kept running with it

I'm all for the pig and slop meme, but at least choose your battles

>>96726647
Whether it's AI or not, it's shit

>>96726654
yeah, the soft edges and pillow shading really don't go well with normies.

>>96726639
you can tell they were drawing a normal human foot under the pizza box as well

>>96726647
AI would be less embarrassing than an artist not just putting the thumb under the pizza to have it lifted in a normal way.

>>96726639
>raid
>(the fridge)
wow that's epic!
i'm buying 20 commander precons+tip

>>96726639
>All the cards will be slop like this trash
I already want this set to fucking die…

>>96726676
>"why are you hiding the fingers, uh?"
We're talking about the swamp land here, right?

>>96725905
>defining a genre by a stereotypical haircut
the name "afrofantasy" sounds really REALLY racist

>>96726639
Oh, yeah, he does have the wrong number. What's weird is that it's 4 which is... ALSO wrong, and only one of the feet is correct. Makes me wonder if the artist was working off a reference pose and just... Sort of forgot the turtles only have three fingers and toes on each appendage.

>>96726693
>this set
*this game

>>96726526
>Olive's previews
one of the most annoying people in a high-annoyingness environment. don't even like, hate the guy, just can't stand the way he talks

>>96726718
Afrofantasy means African Fantasy, you can't be this stupid.

>>96726326
The absolute irony of these lands being the first thing that get spoiled after a week of pig slop memes... it's peak

>>96726639
>fingers this
>fingers that
You're all retarded because you missed the most egregious anatomical mistake

His arm, as in the biceps, is bent in a U shape

>>96726741
it is kind of poetic lol

>>96726324
There are a lot of people that like it but it would be very hard to find people who LOVE it, enough to want a magic set over it. I don't think Ive ever met or seen someone who says it's their favorite thing.

>>96726639
>Full frontal turtle crotch shot
L-lewd >////<

>>96726366
Pickles, maybe? The Turtle luke Weird Shit pizzas.

>>96726718
are you genuinely stupid or is this bait, please be honest with me

>be fish
>swim in pond
>have to ask if the hook is a hook?
it's not even baited

>>96725878 (OP)

Why are those pizza slices being fished out from some primordial sea of cheese slop?

>>96726376
He suprisingly has some really good work, he is talented. Maybe having to do 5 of these under a deadline is why they all suck ass. He's clearly capable of classical fantasy art but that's not what wizards wants.

They WANT the slop, there will probably be nicer lands that only reliably come in the collector boxes. The "good" art is being paywalled by collector boosters now.

>>96726631
It could be I guess
On one hand Splinter usually has long fingernails and Bebop doesn't, on the other hand the pinkish hue and crude way of grabbing it feel a lot more like the pig thug than the cryptic sensei. Both are Black so I don't think that has much bearing on it unlike what the other guy said, and I feel like Splinter's only Black to work with Leo's 5c.
Either way the point is that it's not AI considering the artist in question is a traditional artist who's been doing stuff for MtG and D&D since well before AI shit was a thing, his portfolio is here >>96726376 and he's credited with card art as far back as Commander 2021 and New Capenna.
Dude's profile blurb even says "no NFT" but niggers ITT would rather cry about AI phantoms because something doesn't have hard linework than shit on actual bad art when it appears

Just saw the ninja turtle cards.... day ruined.
Even as a child i thought this franchise felt so lame and artificial, even just the title feels like a bunch of suits sat in a room and mashed together random words that would appeal to kids.

>>96726909
ur a faget, Shredder is cooler than whatever dogshit you like

mtg really hitting me with that "pog form" energy over the couple of months.... -_-

>>96725905
It would be better if they don't. They'll unintentionally make something racist against Africans even with their cultural consultants. The racist cultural consultant for Ixalan said Ojer should be pronounced as Ohair when that is colonizer Spain's pronunciation the correct native pronunciation is Oyair.

>>96726436
There would've been a bigger controversy if they used pineapples.

They should have made pizza with gabagool

>>96727051
I call em O-JUR like jury

longest type line i've ever seen. is there any longer?

>>96726970
Relevant

"Enchantment Creature - Saga Dragon"

>>96727051
Not the heckin niggerinos... they're so fragile and precious.

>>96727097
do we know what Sneak is?

>>96727117
Sneak is Ninjutsu from Kamigawa but the creature doesn't enter attacking and, further, the spell with Sneak doesn't need to be a creature.

>>96727117
It's basically ninjutsu but as an alternate casting cost instead of an ability.

>>96727128
>but the creature doesn't enter attacking
Was that confirmed or are you just assuming?

>>96727097
seems pretty good, since only toughness or power have to be 1 or less, there is a stupid amount of stuff you could abuse with this guy

Who got redheaded black for their April guess?

>>96727149
literally everyone

>>96727149
This also looks vaguely ethnic.

>>96725878 (OP)
Jesus christ, they couldn't make the pizzas at least look more appealing?
Like, did the people who drew and okayed the art for this card never even interact with a pizza before in their life and just assumed "Well, it's poor people food, so obviously it has to look disgusting and inedible"? cause that's the vibes I'm getting here.

>>96727143
I'm not "assuming", I'm "inferring" because ninjutsu specifies "Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking" and Sneak says "You may cast this spell"

>>96727143
Creatures don't enter attacking unless card text explicitly says so. That's basic rules.

>>96727148
Yeah I was thinking that too. The OR is pretty huge and you can do a lot with that. The rest of the package isn’t bad either for the CMC. Would fit in the 99 of several decks pretty comfortably

>>96727158
when you squint hard enough everything can be vaguely ethnic and scary

>>96727149
hacktivist.......

>>96726812
This is weak cope. What if he didn't do these and WotC put his name on every land card because he's working on different designs that weren't ready yet? The land cards are absolutely AI with little doubt to the contrary. The mystery is that Gaboleps has his name plastered on 5 really bad AI placeholders and it's making him look bad. Does he even know? Probably not.

>>96727158
>adorkable
So that’s really who they’re marketing to huh, the tumblr crowd?

>>96727172
>Absolutely AI
>Source: My feefees

>>96727166
Cool it with the Anti-Asian remarks.

>>96727162
>>96727164
We've only seen the rules text on an instant so far. I would consider it very likely that WotC is simply omitting a "If it's a creature spell, then it enters tapped and attacking" for a card where it doesn't apply. I think they did something similar recently for another mechanic, but I can't remember exactly.

>>96727097
I understand the Sneak and the Double strike, but can someone who has seen or read the relevant piece of media inform me as to why, when Leonardo dresses up as a Samurai, he can resurrect small creatures?

Did this happen in a movie or something?

>>96727136
1 character longer than Leonardo's type line in English, albeit tied at 15 syllables. The French version of Leo should end up being longer due to adding two additional "et"s (compare French Kogla and Yidaro)

>>96727158
>adorkable

>>96727205
Actually I might be thinking of Timeline Culler altering the reminder text for Warp to account for its graveyard ability.

>>96726125
are we getting big titty April O'neil -OR- ladasha o'neil

>>96727208
Look not everything's gonna be a flavour win.

>>96727051
They don’t even know how to pronounce Ixalan or Huatli in Nahuatl, which is funny because Huatli in Nahuatl sounds like “WOTC.” Talk about a missed opportunity!

>>96727149
>>96727097
>>96726639
This set is going to be 60% legends again isnt it ?

>>96727177
It's much easier than that: Gaboleps is a far better artist than that and doesn't paint melty, blurry, incoherent slop pieces. That's not his art and it's got too many weird hallucinations and lack of coherent artistic intent to be anyone else's. Therefore: slop.

>>96727252
Yes, a set shilling characters from your childhood is going to be 60+% legends.

>>96727252
You think they'd release a dozen Foot Ninja cards to pad out the roster with some commons? Or a bunch of New York Cops? Of course it's going to be nothing but legends.

>>96726594
WOTC == FLAVOR FAILS
- like they constantly fuck up every U.B. cause it is just a paycheck from slop eats to them

>>96727255
It's melty because it's fucking pizza. It's not blurry except for the sake of blurring the background to make the foreground pop. It's perfectly coherent otherwise.

>Adorkable
Why is everything so shit lately?

>>96727255
>TRADITIONAL artist's DIGITAL work doesn't look exactly like his TRADITIONAL PHYSICAL PAINTERLY WORK
>must be ai slop
That's how every beginner painter's DIGITAL ART AS IN DONE ON THE COMPUTER looks like

You won't bait twitter retards successfully with this.

>>96727270
Pizza doesn't melt into an endless ocean of beige-yellow slime, my friend. Where's the pizza box? Why are they holding pizza in glowing voids with chunks of mystery shit in them? It's AI. That's why.

>>96727278
Doesn't look like his digital work either, retard.

>>96727051
>Bring in cultural consultants for Thunder Junction because muh native americans
>End up creating a setting where the indigenous people are literal mindless vegetables until the colonizers come and show them how to be people

>>96727243
See
>>96727149
“Adorkable” Ladasha

>>96727283
It's because they're meant to be lands so the surrounding area is reminscent of the land in some way. The Island pizza is in water because it's an Island.

>>96727289
maybe consultants aren't all bad

>>96727283
>nu uh is not his digital work
Anon, that's digital work. Maybe he is using another program because of slopposhop controversy.

Anon, i'm 200% sure that's digital.

>>96727208
It is from the comics. While the resurrection is just the new way to show rescuing the innocent.

>>96727289
Apparently the original concept was more "this place has been taken over by the equivalent of oil barons and the natives are enlisting aid from people across the Multiverse" but I dunno I guess capitalism said no.

>>96725988
For me, I want Stardust Dragon in MtG.

>>96727294
What part of any of that is "reminiscent" of the lands? Two of them are at tables that are haphazardly slopped with yellow goo, and the other 3 are in incoherent fields of blurry color.

>>96727315
It's not Gabolep's digital art though. He doesn't digitally paint anything even remotely close to that hallucination filled slop.

>>96727330
>It's not Gabolep's digital art though. He doesn't digitally paint anything even remotely close to that hallucination filled slop.
Anon, how much do you know about digital painting?
Mind sharing your own artworks you've done in 5 minutes without using AI?

You niggas see a sketch and think it's bad art because you can't consume it like the pigs you are.

Is pic related also AI?

>>96727318
>While the resurrection is just the new way to show rescuing the innocent
I associate that with effects like blink and bounce. Dramatic Rescue, Salvation Swan, Resto Angel. Not reanimating from graveyard...
Reanimation casting is like Yawgmoth's Will, no?

To be fair picrel is also in standard and I have no idea what the flavor is supposed to be here, either

>>96727261
>60%
Cute
Prepare for 80% shitty legendaries and unknown stupid characters.
This is Spider-Man 2.0

>>96727355
White reanimation is more of a "get back up you're not done yet soldier" type of thing. Not really explicit raising the dead.

>>96727378
>White reanimation is more of a "get back up you're not done yet soldier" type of thing. Not really explicit raising the dead.
Sometimes it is raising the dead

>>96727365
Though it smashed the previous records, SPM was "merely" ~41% legendary creatures compared to total cards (~70% of the creatures were legendary). I'm skeptical if they can beat the obscenity of SPM's numbers since that was all fucked up by being an overinflated mini-set, but WotC will likely take that as a challenge.

>>96727412
They said they would stop flavoring it as that as they want to make actual death feel more final in lore. Black resurrection is also not actual resurrection and instead is a soulless zombie being used.

WHO IS ASKING FOR THIS!!!!???
WHICH PART OF US ACTUALLY WANT THIS!!???

>>96727439
>WHICH PART OF US ACTUALLY WANT THIS!!???
I think everything they say about market research is now clearly a lie because any research would not return Ninja Turtles as anything desirable.

Nobody wants this. They made something nobody wanted. Everything they say about "players want this" is obviously a lie.

>TMNT comes out 6 weeks after Lowryn
Yeh this 7 sets a year thing ain't it. Endless spoiler season so the second a set is out you start talking about the next thing and even draft fags get screwed over by the insane release schedule as you only get like 2-3 drafts of any given set before moving to the next thing

>>96727412
More recent effects are a lot more "hey get up".

>>96727439
WotC asked for it on your behalf. Be a little more grateful that they're so considerate!

>>96727449
Again there'll only be 6 sets in 2027. I assume Spider-Man is to blame because it got made into a bigger set and pushed everything forward a bit, except one thing next year couldn't be moved (probably Star Trek, because 60th anniversary) so it fucked everything up.

>>96727439
No one lmao but if you want to enjoy this game you will have to commit and coonsom, boomer. Is time to embrace UB overlords as your new reality.

>make UB to "expand your audience"
>give a full ass set to a dead IP cartoon that nobody above the age of 8 gives even a remote shit about beyond an extremely small amount of nostalgia fueled 90s kids
Unironically what is their plan here?
If I were to drink the marketing kool-aid I could understand the rational behind Avatar, which is highly beloved by nerd communities, and I can understand Spiderman, one of the few superheroes who broke into mainstream. It's still dogshit but I can see how if someone was drunk enough it would sound rational, but TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES?

>>96727476
I don't get how TMNT is supposed to make up a whole set. It seems like something that would get spread even thinner than Spider-Man. God, is it another mini-set that they blew up into a full set? If so, they were really fucking banking on mini-sets being a successful concept.

>>96727487
Some people have looked at collector numbers and either it has a higher than average number of multicolour cards, or it's a somewhat smaller set. Not as small as Spider-Man, though.

>>96727476
TMNT is 100% just Spiderman again. It was supposed to be a small side set ala Assassins Creed that's been bulked out to a bigger set.

There's a bizzare parallel universe where if Aftermath never flopped half these UB sets probably wouldn't be full things and would just be small supplemental products

>friend not happy with inspirit construct timmy deck during first tests
>draws an insight engine in 3 different games today
>"haha I'm just gonna draw 8 oh whoops it's my one-sided board wipe haha guys"
what the fuck

>>96727493
The multicolor cards start at 140 compared to Spiderman at 120. So it is smaller but not as small as SPE.

>>96727530
Wrong thread, piggy.

>>96727538
>golgari 3cmc 7/5
>"yeah bro just sac a permanent or set up your graveyard"
Should have just reprinted skelly at this point

>>96725878 (OP)
>"Slop for pigs" post was originally about commander
>everyone interpreted it as being for UB
>one week later release the full art basic lands dubbed "sloppy pizza"

>>96727543
fuck it keeps happening
we also played an ixalan cube today and I won with dimir fairies+rats because I was the only one who drafted 8 usable removal

>>96727564
There seems to be a sacrifice theme in the main set.

>>96727476
Package deal of IPs. If you want the "good ones" you also have to take the shitty ones.

It's a "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" type of deal with Paramount/Viacom.

>>96726159
WHERE'S YOUR HEAD AT!?

>>96725878 (OP)
OK but that forest pizza looks pretty real. I can totally see somebody cutting a broccoler like that.
I'm a 'roni and sausage kinda guy, but I'll add vegetables too.

>>96727574
Mythics don't always align with set themes. Though he could be some glue between sacrifice and sneak decks.

>>96727412
>when you nut but she keeps sucking

>>96727574
and there is probably something that shits out tokens too

>>96727584
Mutagen seems like it will show up on other cards.

>>96725905
>The light of FIVE suns
Can they do anything without being cliche? I understand there are 5 colors, but why the fuck does that need to be apparent in every plane? Didn't Mirrodin already do 5 suns?

I honestly hate how you can figure out game plans this easily just by reading two cards

>>96727476
>above the age of 8
I think it's more nobody under the age of 50 cares about it. I think the entire TMNT fanbase today has to be people who grew up with the original comics because even the 90s kids don't give a shit.

I think this is the most charitable guess as to what happened. Their chief brand officer collects shoes. That's it. That's the sort of guy you got running things and his bosses are 50+ who think Ghostbusters was cool.

>>96727269
this is such a nice art and flavor though

>>96727594
Didn't see that yet, yeah that'd help him out too. Guessing it's something like UB sneak, GB counters, WB sac.

They're going to milk the whole "mechanic, but now a disposable token artifact" forever, won't they?

>>96727599
They are Mirrodin's 5 suns. Zhalfir swapped places with New phyrexia leaving only the suns.

>>96727618
edh players get to pog when they get sac triggers for doing gameplay mechanics.

>>96727599
>Didn't Mirrodin already do 5 suns?
Zhalfir got swapped with Mirrodin, those are the same Mirrodin suns.

>>96727599
They ARE Mirrodin's five suns.
Yeah, the lore is a clusterfuck

>>96727627
>>96727628
Hopefully there's a card that claims the native Zhalfirians actually invented the 5 suns and ordered their gods to put them in the sky.

Speaking of wet farts, how many years before we get pyrexia back on the menu?

>>96727642
she's dead jim

>>96727643
No one is ever truly gone

>>96727638
Anon, wotc does stupid shit all the time, you don't need to make up straw men to fight.

>>96727642
After the return of Nicole Bolas. Which will only return after Emrakul's return.

>>96727617
Sneak has only been seen in White and Red so it's probably not UB.

>>96727654
Anon, Bolas is already back. He's just in the background plotting until he's gonna be relevant (won't be Reality Fracture that doesn't feel correct).

Seems like there will also be a strong artifact theme.

>>96727642
They cycle through Bolas, Eldrazi, and Phyrexians, so we're due for Eldrazi back first. Maybe they'll finally get another big bad to stick with whatever EOE tried to do, we'll see.

Calling it now: Reality Fracture is going to breach the border of the Multiverse so they can do sets crossing the Magic characters into UB.

>>96725878 (OP)
That's AI art, right?

>>96727673
that has been suggested already

>>96727660
We've seen like ten cards and UB are the ninjutsu colors. I wouldn't base much speculation on the mythics.

I should get some recordings of pigs squealing and hide a speaker somewhere in my LCS

>>96727673
i said that two threads ago
another anon said its going to be just reversed mtg where good guys are going to be bad and viceversa

>>96727673
We've been saying that since they first showed the schedule.

>>96727666
Can someone explain to me how the Foot Clan jobs so hard? They have guns right? Why the fuck does Shredder even fucking care about five idiots who live in the sewers?

>>96727696
He mostly has a grudge against Splinter, the turtles are just who Splinter uses to fight by proxy.

I have no slop and I must squeal

>>96727673
No it won't. Why would it?

>>96727660
Those are on rares. It will probably be in different colors for drafting purposes. Web-slinging showed up in red and blue at rare and it was the GW archetype.

>>96726263
>implying the shitty hat sets weren't done on purpose to ease people into the endless pit of UB sloppa
>implying the WHACKY sets weren't setting up not giving a fuck and crossing over with whatever they want
>implying they aren't weaving crappy slop in UW sets to set up UB slop (food tokens, spaceships, etc).
Most obvious jewish trick I've ever seen. You'll see onions comments like:
>duhh well the last sets were really lame so uhh Spiderman and the Office and Dominos Pizza is actually like maybe an improvement? duhhhhhh I'm fucking retarded!
Everywhere. Including here. (You)probably made them too. No wonder companies can treat people like retards, because it's true!

>>96727714
Secret Lair
Constructed
Flesh and Blood
Commander

Another game variant introduced.

>>96727707
True enough. We don't technically know if sneak has the ninjutsu thing of making them enter attacking (we've only seen reminder text for it in a non-creature) or if it's just an alt casting cost, so if it's just an alt casting cost I can see it being red-white to reward aggro.

>>96727732
It's just emblems

>>96727732
Isnt this just archenemy

>>96727739
>>96727744
It's the Horde thing. PvE, basically, the enemy all plays automatically.

>>96727739
>>96727744
It's more similar to Defeat a God from the Theros era.

>>96727752
is he crying, pretending to be crying to farm clicks or laughing?

>>96727687
> reversed mtg where good guys are going to be bad and viceversa....
- like the 'dark universe' star trek episodes

>>96727764
Its hatcher, its all 3

>>96727767
Fucked up alternate universe isn't that uncommon a story beat these days. We already had glimpses of it back in Planar Chaos, albeit more localised.

>>96727696
the original shredder dies in the first issues
The feud is
>splinter owner kills shredder brother because muh romance
>hredder kills splinter owner
>splinter teaches the turtles about revenge and they kill him
splinter is unironically a evil piece of shit in mirage They whitewashed him to the max

>>96727149
You're going to be printing multiple versions of major characters anyway, why not give us actual different versions? A black April, a ginger in coveralls, the original comics version, maybe that one where she's a child...

>>96727799
It's not uncommon for Splinter to go through a pseudo-redemption arc these days, learning to value his 'sons' over mindless revenge and all. Would explain why they made him Black now, actually.

>>96727808
Well, the way they seem to be doing it is the 'core' of the set will be Magic's own incarnations of these characters, but there'll be references to more specific ones. We dunno to what extent that'll be, but hey.

>>96725905
>FLOURISHING
>afrofantasy
>KANG statues greater than Egypt!
>the shaman he call a lightning
>djinn possession
lol
lmao even
Is the set going to be 40% asian and white?

>>96727611
>who think Ghostbusters was cool.
To be fair if you go to conventions you'll see a lot of extremely high budget/effort Ghostbusters cosplays and prop work
I've never understood it myself but there's definitely a passionate Ghostbusters fandom for some fucking reason

>>96727321
>this place has been taken over by the equivalent of oil barons
bit antisemitic, no way that would make it to print

>>96725905
Wait FUCK, no I take all my derision back.
I want a fucking Yakub expy WotC, please for the love of god.
This could be an amazing set. GIVE US YAKUB.

spiderflop is sitting on shelves everywhere, can we hope for a change of course

>>96727764
>>96727773
That's Post Malone you're talking about. Show some respect.

>>96727666
Why is mono-red getting largely unrestricted card advantaeg?

>>96727979
>can we hope for a change of course
yes but we need more flops before any major change happens

>Return to New York within only months
Mark Rosewater, the fuck happened to giving planes room to breathe?
Huh? Remember when you said that? That you can't go back to certain planes because they need room to breathe? What happened to that, Mark?

>>96728007
different versions of new york :^)

>>96728007
>the monkey's paw responds
Universes Beyond: San Fransisco
The FIRST EVER magic set featuring the REAL WORLD. All your favorite celebrities and locations are here!
Experience the proud history of Pride with special LGBTQ+ history insert sheet! (Legal in draft and Modern)

>>96728007
I'm convinced Mark Rosewater is a heel whose job is to draw heat away from the people actually making decisions about Magic

>>96728023
>The FIRST EVER magic set featuring the REAL WORLD.
I was really hoping this would be WWE UB, but I guess SanFran could take it.

I hope it's wakanda as a full set next

>>96728028
>I'm convinced Mark Rosewater is a heel whose job is to draw heat away from the people actually making decisions about Magic
He's a damn good Heel at that. What can I say, I'm a Mark.

>>96728028
No shit anon, that's practically his job description.

>>96726154
>>96726167
we are 100% headed towards a Greatest Depression
we're skipping right over the Greater Depression and straight into the worst
how is EVERYTHING SO BAD
EVERYTHING fucking sucks now

soda, pizza, video games, cartoons, they all used to be sort of okay, obviously bad for you but fun and could be part of a healthy life
now it's literal garbage being served to you, forever

>>96728038
About that >>96725905

>>96727349
You're such a disingenuous retard that I'm now sure you're a WotC employee on damage control. That's not how digital painting works.

>>96728047
>EVERYTHING fucking sucks now
AND it's Standard Legal!

>>96728028
He's basically been a human shield for criticism for a decade now. 4chan obviously doesn't give a shit but leddit and the adjacent community will absolutely start tone policing if you start getting too mean to poor Mark Rosewater who's answering game dev questions for free on tumblr (he's salaried)

>>96728047
All the entertainment slop is just to numb you out during the Reshaping Of The World.
The true goal is precrime and force feeding you basedbean sloppa with just enough nutrition you keep laboring.
Humanoid robots are a meme, AI is for control systems and meat will continue to be used for labor because it's flexible and self-repairing. We are the meat.
Dickons is the future, but forever this time around.

>>96727813
They clearly made Splinter black because he's a Rat, which have always been Black in Magic, and because the 4 turtles are conveniently represented by the other 4 colors.

>>96727914
The same can be said about Star Wars as Ghostbusters. Yes, there are clear signs of interest. I don't understand it either but talking to people you learn that they are just fucking stupid - they have no taste because they don't know better.

Actually no, I know what it is. They're on the spectrum. Specifically the symptom is this - once they learn something they don't let go. And in this case it is Ghostbusters or Star Wars - it is imprinted on their psyche the same way God has a place in peoples' hearts. They have a positive memory and they won't let it go, like how the Japanese fetishize high school because it was the last time they were free before they had to work 16 hour days.

Whatever the fucking reason for the popularity the people who have some kind of taste or sense of poetry know there are things out there that are shit and the feeling is just as hard hitting as the people who like this garbage. Once you have a higher standard you can't go back. The people who like Ghostbusters are just fucked up.

>>96728094
fpbp

>>96727654
>>96727663
>>96727670
Whatever happens in Strixhaven is likely going to set up Reality Fracture, and Reality Fracture is 99.9% likely to be Jace fucking up everything in an attempt to undo New Phyrexia. From this there are several ways the plot could go.
>Bolas forces himself back in, he's already confirmed to still be alive and fucking with Ugin somehow
>in Jace's mirror reality, Bolas is the noble one and Ugin is the evil mastermind
>New Phyrexia gets pulled back into the multiverse, though probably not by re-deleting Zhalfir given the earlier leak
>Emrakul is freed from the moon
>something completely off the wall like Urza being the one who got the Weakstone
The more I think about it, the more I feel like it'll be a combination between #2 and #4. Ugin already synergizes well with Eldrazi and is the creator of the hedrons which are now associated with them. Emrakul not only let herself be imprisoned but directly helped in making it happen, and took specific interest in Jace, with one line in particular sounding very similar to exactly what he pulled in TDM.
>"I was personified a long time ago. Forces cannot be reasoned with. Agency does not exist in propagating waves. If you take shortcuts to try and grapple with what you cannot perceive, cannot even comprehend, who am I to gainsay? No one. You. Perhaps."
Now in TDM
>Narset saw the strain on his face as the power coursed through him. It wanted only to follow Jace's commands, but like a wick, he was burning at its touch. He gasped, the last of his endurance failing, and Narset stared in horror as the horizon broke into mirrored fragments, revealing a nothingness that ate at the eye, a void that poured toward them, unmaking reality—Jace included.

>>96727673
You're retarded if you think this.

>>96727979
Give it two years and we'll see. Aftermath is two years old and the Spider-Man shitshow is a direct result of Aftermath flopping.

>>96727439
There is a concept in business called the BCG Matrix. Mtg is a cash cow, a low growth, high marketshare IP
Depending on who you ask, it is possible to re-invigorate a cash cow to become a rising star again however it is generally considered risky. They are reinventing mtg, and may lose market share in the process.
Known issues
>Poor return on investment
>Wasted resources
>Cash trap
>Limited growth opportunity
>Misreading market dynamics
>Ignoring a product portfolio's synergy
>Complacency and internal assumptions
>Damage to the core business
>Innovation for innovation's sake

>>96728115
I'm assuming it's just Bigger Planar Chaos and Also The Fomori Are Here. There was a whole prophecy in the Bloomburrow story which has yet to really pass in any way of "the kings in dark shall return, the mage in blue shall bring about the end" which could go... Any number of ways. I don't think Ugin and Bolas count as the kings, because neither is really a king. Bolas styles himself a god, and Ugin would never call himself a king. Second part of the prophecy is ripe as hell for twisting around, so good chance Jace ends up saving the day in some way or other. I don't THINK they'll just go "anyway Jace is irredeemably evil and dies" after setting him up to be more overly sympathetic than any other major antagonist.

I know tons of people who are skipping events both big and small because it's all either vivi dominated standard or spiderman limited and both are disgusting

>>96728120
>Poor return on investment
>Wasted resources
>Cash trap
>Limited growth opportunity
>Misreading market dynamics
>Ignoring a product portfolio's synergy
>Complacency and internal assumptions
>Damage to the core business
>Innovation for innovation's sake
A history of the past half decade of Magic.

>>96728131
I feel like the "kings in dark" might be something new, possibly unique to Bloomburrow. Bolas, the Phyrexians, the Eldrazi, none of them really make sense as kings.
And Jace is obviously going to turn out to have been justified the whole time, though maybe in an Urza style where it's only because the alternative is way worse. Besides, it doesn't mention what specifically the mage in blue will bring to an end, which is prophecy bullshit 101.

>>96725218
Whats up with his leg?
>>96725905
Can't believe we lost Mirrodin/new Phyrexia for wakanda knockoff that manages to be shitier.
>>96725536
Indeed, Zhafir and the rest of the continent was exiled when they were preparing to war against the phyrexians, that is why in the Not-End Game (TM) they came out of the portal ready for the fight.
>>96725565
I would kill for a Mirages Wars set based on the original block but doing shit with new design (even if they did it for the commander crowd first). It would be cool to see a saga for that girl who slayed dragons or for the old hag Vampire lady, etc. And for planeswalker they could do Teferi or that white mage who protected the region and later became a teacher to Mangara. (also another version of Kaervek that didn't suck would be cool)
>>96726718
depends of the people saying it, just like nigger
>>96726159
Probably would after some alcohol.
(the crazy ones know what they are doing)
>>96727732
This looks like the Face the Hydra/horde/god decks from OG theros.

>>96728165
Well the only other notable mage in blue is Kasmina but I guess it COULD also be this blue bitch from the Strixhaven group. And the Fomori DO make some sense as kings, being an interplanar empire that have all-but vanished into SOMEWHERE (and were also in the Edge but we never really got any more details there).

>>96728187
>Well the only other notable mage in blue is Kasmina
I completely forgot about her. Last we saw her was a card in the MOM commander decks. I assume she'll be on Strixhaven since she was a teacher there last time.

>>96728047
Just look at people and how they behave now.
Everything on the internet is just bait, ragebait, clickbait, shilling, ideology wars and no one wants to actually interact with each other, but only consume one another.
No one allows fun because they're all either just the most miserable consumer pig out there or they're mentally ill or have some sort of agenda going on.

As we're all witnessing, even the thing that was supposed to distract you for a little bit has become an opium, a drug to escape your existence.

Do you want to scream? No you can't because even expressing the tiniest amount of humanity is FUCKING CRINGE.
We are smoked, cooked and roasted.
It's fucking over for porkmanity.

>>96726159
>>96726178
>>96726232
This same phenotype is the one that becomes a genderspecial bluehair if marx gets to her first.

>>96727755
I hope we get a non-mutated Baxter Stockman card. I prefer him as either a normal corrupt businessman/scientist or as a cyborg.

>>96728217
trying too hard

Welp this confirms it I will finish the season at my local fnm in december and then I'm selling my cards except for a commander deck or two. I'm out. What were they thinking? Is WOTC intentionally 4d chessing to make hasbro die or something? I can't see a world where this is a good business decision

>>96725878 (OP)
I'm not trying to be a contrarian faggot here but the pizza thing is the only thing that sorta makes sense because they eat weird ass pizza all the time in the show (pic related)

>>96728258
Please explain how a slice of pizza represents a land, let alone a swamp, island etc

>>96728262
It has the symbol on.

>>96725914
You can't escape the 5L0P

>>96728131
>>96728165
I can see the fomori being relevant in the first bit. Jace may or may not die but I honestly think Loot will, or at least get put in a position where he won't be in the story much anymore. He hasn't done too well as a mascot but writing him out would be the easiest way to justify re-sparking. And more sparks are probably needed, because the majority of the Omenpath sets have had the protagonists getting pulled around with little rhyme or reason. I don't think Jace will die since he's not irredeemably evil at all, but he's always been morally ambiguous relative to most of the rest of the cast in a similar way to Urza.
>Second part of the prophecy is ripe as hell for twisting around
Funny you mention that.
>the mage in blue shall bring about the end
>aforementioned story title is The Promised End

>>96728262
It doesn't and i just think they wanted to desperately tie pizza in somewhere but couldn't in the set

I was talking more about people in the last thread complaining about the toppings

>Instant Ramen
>Hot Dog Cart
>Island

>>96728262
We use lands because planeswalkers are able to draw mana from it. Over the years we've also seen other forms of mana, like angels and demons being mana constructs. We have mana dorks that create mana, potentially without lands at all. Thus there could potentially be a source of mana that condenses into pizza.

who at least one of you sisters saved these cause you're gonna find out just how much a "joke" it was, 1-2 years from now

>>96728217
No blue hair lib I’ve ever met knows anything about Marx

>>96728047
enjoying capitalism yet? liking it to be 'late stage' flavor?

the only thing keeping this at bay was socialism, and then the ussr fell

>>96727149
Why couldn't it have been the live action TMNT April
(It's just Megan Fox dressing and acting like Megan Fox)

>>96727149
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOW
HOW WAS IT SO FUCKING PREDICTABLE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>96728332
based based based
if these CHUDS knew anything they'd have gone to labor in the rice fields for us when we FUCKING TOLD THEM TO

suck on in capitalist pigdogs, you could have been a slave in the utopia but instead your magic the gathering cards are fake and gay

>>96728368
peasants lived better than you and have way more days off/holidays

cope, slaverino

>>96728212
One look at the tripfag and this all makes sense.

>>96728359
megan fox has already been snatched by the premier slop media franchise (mortal combat)

mtg just picks up the craps but give it a few years and mtg will be exactly where mk is now

>>96728212
gentrification is a curse. the internet was doomed the moment it went from losers and nerds on chats to normies on their cellphones, cause normies have disposable income and can be easily monetized

this is steve jobs legacy

>>96728366
trying too hard

>>96726326
>>96726330
>>96726335
>>96726338
>>96726343
There is no way this shit isn't at the least traced over AI art.
There's no dough, only a brown wedge of a crust that immediately morphs into a cartoonishly yellow goo that doesn't flow like cheese at all. The tables and seemingly the entire floor in U is a sea of weird cheese. It looks more like fondue velveeta than anything real.
The ingredients are also way out there. What's green? Kiwi! What's yellow? A banana! What's red? Rasberries! Let's throw a whole fucking pepper complete with stem on the red pizza.

>>96728393
cut the hueposter some slack, grinding arena and ragebaiting here is his cope with life

>>96728438
I'm convinced these posts are made by actual WotC shills trying to push the narrative that everything is AI and desensitize people to it, so they can start actually using AI

>>96728332
>>96728388
wait, are you like an actual commie like Jones Manuel or you're just trolling?

>>96728438
i'll mod these on arena to run with my swine/boar deck

>>96728472
Capitalist hellscape is when mass produced slop gets kind of gay and lame
That's why we need to abolish property and force everyone to labor for the state. :^)

>>96728473
They're just... Gonna be on Arena, anon. Only Marvel sets are getting Omenpaths'd.

>>96728472
i don't watch whichever cuck you quoting, also calling people "commies" in fucking 2026 is just magatard tier strawmanning ad hominem

i'm a "Ted Kaczynskist" more than anything, the world would instantly get a lot better if we have like just a thousand or so hermits mailing bombs and anthrax to politicians and shit

>>96728491
kill yourself israeli bot

>>96728494
yeah but you're a fool if you think i'm paying for them

>>96728491
We should labor for the unelected corporations, I agree

>>96728455
Only 5 more today and my handler will give me enough tix for a mythic!

>>96728115
Current era WotC isn't based enough to have Urza come back to live via some insane asspull plan he put into motion millennia ago as a last-ditch failsafe. It would be incredible but they can't / won't do it. They even accidentally sowed the seeds for it by having Teferi speak with Urza after the Sylex explosion, Urza wasn't stupid he could have gained information from that meeting that he wouldn't have had previously.

>>96728504
Why would they revive an old white man?
They'll revive his racially ambiguous son

>>96728508
Can you not think about niggers for one second anon

>>96728068
Not really. Not everything that looks badly or unappealing to a consumer is AI.
The company might be slop galore but I'm giving the artist the benefit of the doubt.

You can't even begin to fathom how easy and quick that type of art is to do manually.
Seriously, what do you know about what wotc requested? How much they paid? The dead line?
>that's not how digital painting works
Wow anon, another non-sequitur and me giving you a reply. Good job.
Do you think i do not enjoy writing autistic posts to at least get my noggin joggin?
And you even get "content" you can reply to with yet another brain dead post.
This is the stuff man.
I'd personally kill myself by biting down a dirty shovel and slamming my head against a wall to sever my spine from the inside of my mouth if i did post nothing but your negative IQ primate mutterings that keep further siphoning grey matter from your bulbous like tissue growth residing in your skull, but you do you.

>>96728499
yeah, it's so much more BASED when 100 or so pigs hold most of the world wealth and can influence and control governments and can oppress me, that's ok so long as it's not the government oppressing me anyone else can step on my balls that's fair game lol

because i can larp and dream i were the rich pig and wageslave my ass off my whole life to pay for this mortgage, at least i'm FREE and not a commie hahaha!

>>96728508
Oh right he did have a son. Sure wasn't much of a character.

>>96728510
Please refer to the LOTR and TMNT sets, you're clearly new

>>96728508
Harbin has been dead for thousands of years at this point so no.

>>96728516
Unfortunate

>>96728504
when will you fuckers understand it's best for things to be left untouched in this era? every time something is brought back/remade it's just fake and gay and trans and cucked it's just how things work now

look at nicole bolarina

>*rich people exist*
>poor capitalism hater that desperately wants to be rich to flaunt his wealth towards anyone who ever wronged him

Place your bets, what anime gets a UB first? I'm saying DBZ, it's easily the most universal one to do.

>>96728512
You're already brazilian. Nothing could be worse than that.

>>96728530
Yugioh

>>96728530
>pls not wanpiss pls not wanpiss
>pls not wanpiss pls not wanpiss>pls not wanpiss pls not wanpiss>pls not wanpiss pls not wanpiss>pls not wanpiss pls not wanpiss>pls not wanpiss pls not wanpiss>pls not wanpiss pls not wanpiss

>>96728529
yeah basically this, capitalism is a system based around cuckoldry and wishing be the cucker not the cucked

>>96728530
it's either persona or one piece

>>96728536
One Piece has a pretty thriving card game currently I doubt it'd do a UB any time soon. Naruto is the other really strong possibility, I think. Or they might do a "one everybody likes but isn't a huge huge big deal' like FMA.

>>96728530
DBZ and one piece have competing card games so they're out
It would have to be some super-popular shonenshit

>>96728530
Duel Masters

>pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop pls no shonenslop
>pls no evangelion slop
>pls no berserkslop

>>96728529
Just ignore the brazilian

>>96728530
I would assume DBZ would not sell its rights to WotC.

>>96728542
>>96728561
Reminder that urzafag is fat, poor, and lives in brazil. He's obsessed with anime and has no job, and is a virgin. He has confirmed all of this many times in the arena general, but it appears he was finally bullied out of that thread.

>>96728568
Shueisha is on life support so It wouldn't surprise me if they did.

>>96728568
Why wouldn't they?

>>96728568
Dragonball/bandai has their own tcg which they recently rebooted just a few months ago.
Bandai will keep shitting out their own tcg and kill them rather than give others a license.

love how retarded /mtg/ is, thinking dbz has any clout these days

might as wall make sailor moon or gundam sets, all these old ips don't hold a candle to news ones, their lifetime gross is nothing next to something like one peice or even narutu

especially dbz which is a dead franchise now that the author is dead and daima flopped

you are retards lol, also the dbz card game makes no money next to something like lorcana even

Shin Megami Tensei UB
>has many monster designs
>never had a card game
>is basically animemanga
>all monsters are based on mythology with a couple exceptions
>won't have many legendary creatures
>tiered spells and instants can come back

>>96728596
Marvel also has a card game, they still sold the rights
tbf it's probably why they didn't sell the digital rights, but still
these are corps, they'll fold if there's enough money

>>96728630
marvel whores out to anyone tho
bandai would rather commit sudoku that do the same mistake they made with yugioh

>>96728625
I only know persona 3.

>>96728560
don't worry sis, it's just one piece and maybe demon slayer

the rest doesn1t make enough money to face off against something like a dora the explorer set

>>96728645
eew
Don't speak to me

>>96728625
I'd say they might not wanna depict Satan and Lucifer on cards but they already did Satan.

>>96728645
most persona comsoooooomers only know persona 5 so

>>96728625
>>96728652
you ain't no megaten fan you don't even say megaten

>>96728536
Very unlikely, One Piece has one of the few other TCGs on the market that's actually alive
Same with Dragon Ball, and Gundam's just launched (along with the host of other reasons Gundam would be an awful choice for a set)
Some SEAnigger is probably going to say Kimetsu no Yaiba or Solo Leveling but that's about the same as asking for Sword Art Online or Death Note for how long they'll remain relevant
Jojo could maybe work but Araki isn't actually that much of a sellout and nearly every creature would have to be legendary, Bleach is similar and a lot of its appeal wouldn't translate well
Naruto would be the best actual choice but they're doing a Ninja Turtles set literally as we speak and there's too much overlap there, it would have to be several years out

>>96728625
Much cooler than most of their other options but there is absolutely zero chance in hell they put Lucifer and Krishna on cards

>>96728659
The only thing they will not want to depict is Pixie.
And they'll make her black.

>>96728498
>calling people "commies" in fucking 2026 is just magatard tier strawmanning ad hominem
You're explicitly ranting about "late stage capitalism", obviously people are going to assume that you're a communist or some shit.

>>96728115
>>something completely off the wall like Urza being the one who got the Weakstone
Mishra survives the sylex blast
A Phyrexian can't naturally have a spark
But the Mightstone and Weakstone embedded in his skull aren't natural
Urza's long protracted guerilla war against Phyrexia was about revenge
Mishra just wants to claim Yawgmoth's throne

>>96728674
>there is absolutely zero chance in hell they put Lucifer and Krishna on cards
Does this have to do with the satanic panic from the 90s?
They are still on that?
Or is it american laws and regulations because of religious stuff?
If anything they won't even be able to print anything on card since a lot of demons are basically straight out the bible.

>>96728703
I unironically think that nu-MTG writers don't know enough about the old Dominaria lore to bother dredging all that up.

>>96728709
>Does this have to do with the satanic panic from the 90s?
>They are still on that?
Political correctness cuts both ways. Depicting religion = controversy = bad

>>96728709
Krishna would make the jeets mad. Lucifer yes, American protestants are some of the biggest terminal victims on the planet, the majority of religion in this country is for-profit.

>>96728714
BRO was like, what, 3 years ago? Do you even play this game?

>>96728530
It's going to be Solo Leveling or a similar level of slop.

>>96728625
>true
>false
>true
>true
>exceedingly false
>true

>>96728763
retard

>>96728744
>thinks BRO required anything more than superficial understanding of Dominaria's lore
retard

>>96728763
>Six different versions of Kirito or whatever the faggot's name is, each at a different rank
>a card for each human character that tried to sabotage him for reasons that are inexplicable to anyone unfamiliar with Korean culture
>a card that gets Japanese players mad because it references one of the Imperial Japanese army's massacres

>>96728763
There's literally zero depth to make cards from. You could maybe make A card of the protagonist and that's it.

>>96728777
Do you think Mishra is some deep niche lore character?

>>96728766
>never had a card game le false
1997 to 2002
basically fucking nothing
>won't have many legendary creatures le false
Most demons aren't even unique in the smt universe except with the big ones that regularly appeared as bosses like Metatron, Beelzebub, Lucifer and the riders.
We're talking about translating into mtg mechanics btw

You don't need to make a hua po or a fucking gaki or a kerberus a legendary creature

>>96728779
>a card that gets Japanese players mad because it references one of the Imperial Japanese army's massacres
This would be hilariously based. Gimme a Unit 731 card that slowly charges up a boardwipe.

I don't care what April was the original, I want the 1987 April. Aren't wotc supposed to pander to my millenial nostalgia here?

One would think FF set would teach them to never mess with people's waifu/husbandos but alas. Allowing themselves to flip design, race and personality of iconic characters at the drop of a hat is part of a reason why western media is so shit.

>>96728795
No. Which is kind of my point.

>>96728777
Literally every single character and item in >>96728703 was in BRO, except for Yawg. Anon isn't suggesting pulling from some deep lore.

>>96728829
What I'm saying is that they don't want to spend more time than necessary on anything to do with Dominaria because that would require going deeper into the lore than the writers are comfortable with.
I am predicting that they will never have any more stories about Dominaria that go deeper than touching superficially on earlier events because of this. This is why Mishra isn't going to be coming back and why anything to do with Dominaria won't go deep enough to be entangled with the old lore.

>>96728766
>>96728800
As far as I'm aware all the "demons" in SMT are canonically formed from the human collective unconscious, not in the explicit way that Persona's personas are but in that they're basically extradimensional entities and concepts that are translated by the human mind as mythological/religious imagery. Like a Plato's cave type of thing. So no, the majority of demons aren't legendary since there can be multiple of them, there just usually aren't. On the other hand you could have a decent selection of legendary humans based off the cast of each game. With that being said:
Stat him.

>>96728862
They didn't need to do a flashback set to Dominaria's past in the first place, 90% of players already don't care about the old lore and 99% of the rest don't care about the deep old lore. They won't do more stories that dive deeper into Dominaria because the vast majority of people don't care about that.

>>96728621
Yep the DBZ game never works no matter how many times they reboot it because minus one piece Bandai never makes a game with interesting or balanced gameplay. And the big thing with DBZ is what some people were complaining about spiderman but on a way bigger level, that all of the cards are just different versions of the same 20 characters and they look the same.
One Piece has been a home run for them and has claimed 4th place in the card game space because the gameplay is fun and mostly balanced, the show is so popular and has a billion characters to make cards from, and the alt art cards are fucking gorgeous and worth collecting. Sure they make Luffys every set but they're mechanically unique, use his different form and the reuse of popular characters is generally just done much more tastefully with the arys always being VERY different.
It's kinda the game that's been helping me get over how much I despise magic right now if that isn't obvious.

>>96728875
Yes, protags are obvious. Still won't be a lot, maybe 20 in a theoretical smt ub

>stat
3c 1w1b
legendary creature- Fiend Human
6/6

tap 1c1u1g1r -- Freikugel-- Destroy target permanent

2c2g2r -- Demon summon -- cast a creature spell with converted mana cost X without paying the cost where X is this cards toughness

ok i got 4 out of 5 pizza slop cards modded but i can't find where the hell 89172 (mountain, richard wright) is

can some sister do the hard work for me? i don't feel like opening texture buckets for days on end, and it's not on the npe ones

and yes, retard, i know they're supposed to be full art but putting them as the ana npe cards makes it that much fitting

>>96728689
>oh noes you said my trigger word

don't care

>>96728899
you literally have like 20 gokus to choose from in dbz games cause the author was a complete fucktard lol

i stopped caring after dragon ball evolution and the series soft reboot/complete destruction of buu saga character development

>>96728862
>>96728894
There's credible evidence they're opinion polling for a set based around fucking Zhalfir, and until the ass end of MOM the only thing keeping Zhalfir in the lore was Teferi.
Just a few years ago they printed a card based on the first guy Yawgmoth treated for fuck's sake

>>96728899
I ordered a couple waifu cards the other month and the guy sent me a "it's to die for" card extra

i chuckled

>>96728917
>he still can't mod card text
lmao

So the enshitification of the brand has finally extended to the card design too? Look at this card, how is this a creature? This should be a legendary enchant that summons 4 legendary turtle creatures one of each color named each of the turtles and then have the +1/+1 effect.

>>96729005
It's a team of four people, why would it not be a creature?

alright sisters, here they are:

https://litter.catbox.moe/pqvfs8.7z

the sloplands on mtg arena

>>96729001
i'll mod the card text once i am done fucking your mom that cheap whore

Is TMNT doing some big promotion right now for a movie or something? I just saw an ad showing that Raid Shadow Legends is doing a TMNT crossover right now too, of all things. Who the fuck even cares about it nowadays?

>>96729005
because COOMander sisters don't want to play enchantment, they want to play creature cause creature easier to removal

>>96729062
RAID SHADOW LEGENDS too? it's over

>>96729005
>finally
2019 called.

>>96729036
>arena
kwab no one cares

just like your entire existence so it's a perfect match

>>96729005
It's crazy levels of word soup. Imagine being a little kid (most of the normie customers at walmart for this product) and trying to figure out what vigilance, menace, trample and haste means and remembering everything this card does

>>96729165
no one under 16 plays this shit anymore, which makes it the piggo "waaa you srs about a children's card game" all the more pathetic

I like Kavu. Not intelligent Kavu in space.

what children played
vs
what middle aged cucks slop it up

>>96727435
>They said they would stop flavoring it as that as they want to make actual death feel more final in lore.
Do you know where they said that?
>Black resurrection is also not actual resurrection and instead is a soulless zombie being used.
That definitely depends on the card.

>>96729170
You're right, I forgot pokemon cards existed for a second. Also their moms arent going to buy a 70 dollar commander deck even if they're obsessed with Turtles. They'd maybe get one pack

>>96729191
for instance the returned aren't mindless but in the fluff they are (usually?) separated from (part of?) their soul which becomes an eidolon when they escape the underworld.

It's possible the exile in this card is just for balance reasons, rather than flavor.

>>96729188
Nah, fuck the NWO design scheme. I like the introduction of complex mechanics, I just hate the power creep.

>>96729188
Why are you trying to act like you didn't get bullied out of the arena threads for being the only alchemy player?

>>96727455
>More recent effects are a lot more "hey get up".
The same mechanics are often flavored in different ways.

In terms of flavor, This one isn't quite resurrection but it's their spirit returning.

has anyone here played the archenemy format?

Deck
3 Swine Rebellion (Y24) 15
1 Plains (SLD) 101
2 Drover of the Swine (Y24) 17
3 Swamp (SLD) 105
2 Forest (SLD) 108
4 Porcine Portent (Y24) 23
4 First Little Pig (Y24) 18
3 Putrefying Rotboar (Y25) 10
3 Tarantusk, Unwisely Awoken (OM1) 118
4 Fatal Push (FCA) 9
3 Cavern of Souls (LCI) 269
2 Collected Company (AKR) 186
4 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
4 Godless Shrine (RNA) 248
4 Temple Garden (GRN) 258
2 Hushwood Verge (DSK) 261
3 Nowhere to Run (DSK) 111
4 Sheltered by Ghosts (DSK) 30
2 Brindle Shoat (JMP) 380
1 Hedge Whisperer (MKM) 165
2 Green Sun's Zenith (SPG) 0

Sideboard
3 Dismember (SPG) 41
2 Fragment Reality (Y22) 4
2 Back to Nature (M15) 169
3 Surgical Extraction (OTP) 19
2 Damping Sphere (DAR) 213
3 Thoughtseize (AKR) 127

>>96729192
you have 20 bucks
you somehow found a woman and fathered a child

what would you give your child

1. one pack of some gay cucked and irrelevant card game you used to play when you were a child
2. janette silksonga the hottest bug bitch on the block

and go

>>96729209
kill yourself

>>96723600
>these are cool answers, Magic would benefit from a lead writer, there was a time I'd say Brandon Sanderson cause his Stormlight series is vaguely Magic multiverse esque. But his recent stuff is more WOTC than even WOTC if that makes sense, basically the core writing needs a STRONG lead like hire an actual fucking author like Erikson to outline a real plot
was his mtg book good?

>>96729219
This one might be resurrection.

another one from duskmourne. the art on this one is a little abstract.

The orzhov have the power to ressurrect people. but it might just be as spirits rather than physical. dont remember fully.

>>96729188
>Another cool insect card restricted to mobile
Can't believe they baited me into getting back into the game with Swarmweaver and Aatchik. For all I know, Blex is going to be either restricted to the commander deck or not even in the set, even though he's one of the few iconic Arcavios characters not living at the school.

>>96729270
alchemy chads can't stop winning

also you can play arena on pc, sis

>>96729281
>Play Magic just for the sake of playing Magic
Why would anyone do that in 2025? I'm only interested in doing FNM in-person or playing any other game out there, usually 20+ year old games I grew up with.

>>96729290
>Why would anyone do that in 2025?

idk rn i play arena just cause of the slopgate and running the pig deck i posted

>>96728094
I'm sure it's both there has to be a non-black Splinter in the set.

>>96725905
Remember when Magic was good?

>>96728187
Maybe it's Chandra she is supposed to be the ice mage antagonist for the set. Jace unintentionally creates magic's greatesst villain.

>>96729332
yeah i like premodern too

>>96726639
>turtle cloaca

>>96729332
Here's the full poem in order (along with some further background):
https://web.archive.org/web/20190521084051/https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/love-song-night-and-day-2003-04-14

>>96729241
I think it is flavor as religious rebirth as the Rites of Threshold is Valgavoth eating the cultist's mind and ridding them of emotion
>>96729245
Seems to based on the live or die trope one is a mouth with a peaceful imagery to lure a survivor the other is a dark portal back to safety. I think they wanted to emphasis the death aspect of the choice so they made it a modal murder which had to be 4 or more mana so they made the second choice a revival which are usually 5 mana as an appropriate "Live" .

>>96729403
>I think it is flavor as religious rebirth as the Rites of Threshold is Valgavoth eating the cultist's mind and ridding them of emotion
that also makes sense, though its not as clear from the flavor text on teh card itself

S L O P C E P T I O N
>>96729437
>>96729437
>>96729437
>>96729437
>>96729437

>>96728786
perfect for a UB set then

>>96728535
I would, unironically, pony up for a yugioh Mtg secret lair.

>>96728547
They said this about marvel and disney and look what happened

>>96728262
The same way a piece of a map, or a dragon's eyeball, or a spider web is-
It's just card art, retard. It's not literal.

>>96728314
Unironically a Sonichu UB would be the best thing to happen to MtG.
Utter and total death.