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Anonymous No.96740619 >>96740673 >>96740681 >>96740683 >>96740816 >>96741399 >>96741479 >>96741649 >>96742255 >>96745674 >>96747261
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The Big Questions Edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ:
Women: we can all agree they were a mistake, but is it fair to blame them? Discuss.
>Alt TQ:
Has anyone ever won with a group hug deck? What is the wincon here? Why would you ever play it?
Anonymous No.96740629
>TQ
My vote is that it is fair to blame women
Anonymous No.96740665
>TQ
picrel
>alt TQ
Heliod the Radiant Dawn. Your wincon is drawing your whole deck with X spells. You would play it because it's great fun to draw cards.
Anonymous No.96740673 >>96740692
>>96740619 (OP)
Wow what a garbage TQ. Please don't make the thread again.
Anonymous No.96740677
>TQ
I like both men and women so don't ask me
>alt TQ
wanted to build one but I feel like it wouldn't go well with my play group
Anonymous No.96740681
>>96740619 (OP)
No. The fault is with WotC. This has been the case ever since they implemented the RL.
Anonymous No.96740683 >>96741158
>>96740619 (OP)
In bumbleflower the wincon is often getting smacked in the face with a 20/20 flying Bunny
In my group hug it's things like underworld dreams and iron maiden
Anonymous No.96740692 >>96740695 >>96742122
>>96740673
Nobody else seems to mind, you seething leftoid
Anonymous No.96740695 >>96740701 >>96740703 >>96740800
>>96740692
Ok /pol/tard
Anonymous No.96740701 >>96740711
>>96740695
I'll never understand why you redditors come to a site knowing it's chuddie and then cry your fucking eyes out when someone says something chuddie as a joke
Just fuck off back where you came from
Anonymous No.96740703 >>96740722 >>96741369
>>96740695
Nothing is beyond /our/ reach
Anonymous No.96740705 >>96740714
Group hug works a lot better if you enjoy politics (the game kind.) A lot of this thread hates that and wouldn't leverage the group hug aspect.
Anonymous No.96740711 >>96740800
>>96740701
>resorts to boogeyman namecalling
lmao. just fucking lmao. used to be gaia online, then tumblr, now reddit. It's just so pathetic.
Anonymous No.96740714 >>96740719
>>96740705
>works a lot better if you enjoy politics
Politics doesn't exist. You will never politick someone out of making the optimal play unless its the most "beer and pretzels" everyone's-basically-playing-a-bracket1 kind of table
Anonymous No.96740716
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
Anonymous No.96740719 >>96740744
>>96740714
Confirmed no games.
Anonymous No.96740722
>>96740703
Leftists could never create art with such sovl
Anonymous No.96740724
When your dumb ass tries to convince another player to make a less retarded decision (like having god awful threat assessment) you are doing politics.
Anonymous No.96740730 >>96740736 >>96740740 >>96741817 >>96742488 >>96747355
Any suggestions for good versions of counterspell in dimir aristocrats/artifacts?
On a related note: How many variations of counterspell should you run?
Anonymous No.96740735 >>96740807 >>96740821 >>96741201 >>96741213 >>96741482 >>96742064 >>96743539 >>96744747
This thread kind of sucks. Post decks to make it suck less.
Anonymous No.96740736
>>96740730
>On a related note: How many variations of counterspell should you run?
no less than 8 if you're playing counterspells at all
ideally 12+
Anonymous No.96740740
>>96740730
All
Anonymous No.96740744 >>96740811 >>96740817 >>96741410
>>96740719
Look man, one of my favorite decks is Eriette of the Charmed Apple. I have it full of debuffs and buffs so I can try to bargain with people and punish them for doing things I didn't want.
It. Does. Not Work.

In fact one guy even fucking sac his roided up unblockable commander instead of swinging it for lethal against another player because he said I was "king making" as I knew I couldn't win but asked for 2nd
Anonymous No.96740800 >>96740804
>>96740711
>>resorts to boogeyman namecalling
Remember when you posted: >>96740695 ?
Anonymous No.96740804 >>96740825
>>96740800
Not that time, but like 2 or 3 threads ago that would've been me
Anonymous No.96740807 >>96740812 >>96745239
>>96740735
Axonil is the greatest mono colored commander
Anonymous No.96740811
>>96740744
correct, I tried playing family friendly jon irenicus and the players would cast removal on their creatures instead of forced attacking to avoid "being mean"
Anonymous No.96740812 >>96740829 >>96745283
>>96740807
Mono red is boring
Anonymous No.96740816
>>96740619 (OP)
> TQ: Group hug

Yes; with my War is Hell group hug deck. Ruric Thar was my commander. I gave everyone ramp and +1/+1 counters to build their armies, before goading everything every turn. Ruric was chosen to encourage combat.
Anonymous No.96740817 >>96740847 >>96741885
>>96740744
There are 4 people at my LGS I've seen play her and not once have any of them won with her. Once people start getting drained for like 3-4 per turn, everyone starts panicking and it immediately becomes a 1v3 game
Anonymous No.96740821
>>96740735
https://moxfield.com/decks/qLezCuFUbEi0_v-yIzl5QQ
anyone else play kain? he's been my new favorite, lots of shenanigans
Anonymous No.96740825 >>96740831
>>96740804
>HEY LOOK GUYS I JUST LEARNED HOW TO RMB>INSPECT!
I have no idea why you faggots still try this shit
Anonymous No.96740829
>>96740812
shhhhh
Anonymous No.96740831 >>96740854
>>96740825
>muh console
We know you're from /pol/, you don't have to confirm how retarded you actually are.
Anonymous No.96740847 >>96740866 >>96740875 >>96741885
>>96740817
>Once people start getting drained for like 3-4 per turn, everyone starts panicking and it immediately becomes a 1v3 game
Sad but fuckin' true.
I have no idea what it is, people people absolutely shit themselves over the life drain. I can tell them, literally at this rate they won't even be dead in 5 turn's time, they do not fucking care.

I have won with her, but it's been from explosive turns like Retether unexpectedly bringing it all back in the mid to late game
Anonymous No.96740854
>>96740831
Concession accepted lefttard, enjoy your stay on a site you hate
Anonymous No.96740866
>>96740847
>I have no idea what it is, people people absolutely shit themselves over the life drain.
There's a very big hump that newer/novice-level players have to get over when it comes to life, and for some it's straight up impossible to do so. I've shown cards like Greed/Phyrexian Arena to friends less experienced with the game and they think they're some of the worst card draw cards in the game. They can't fathom the idea of using life as a resource, or how 40 life is actually large amount they can tank shit with, only that it's a sacred thing that must be protected at all costs and they need to gain as much as possible with lifelink/life gain effects
Anonymous No.96740875
>>96740847
>I have no idea what it is
group slug that isn't shut down promptly tends to run away with games quite easily. Eriette isn't a group slug deck as such but much the same logic applies, since her ability to lock out others' creatures grows expotentially as other players die.
Anonymous No.96740943 >>96740956 >>96740962 >>96742785
I can tell TMNT is going to suck for a couple reasons.

No one and I mean NO ONE asked for reddit-tier humor.
> Adorkable
> Hacktivist
It doesn't matter if its the sort of thing found in the cartoon. Then adapt the IP to something more serious. Take a darker look at it. Only pure $oy consumers will consume that.

The only characters that people care about are April and Bebop/Rock. If they actually wanted to harness nostalgia, they would have used OG April for the art. Fewer millenials will recognize scientist april or care at all.

Bebop/Rock were always the more relatable villains for 2 reasons. They were always getting there ass kicked by the turtles and there balls kicked by shredder. They are sympathetic for that reason and in general appealed to kids for being 'badass' yet downtrodden. Also, they were by far the biggest male/furry appealing characters for reasons that i won't elaborate but iykyk. The fact that WotC gave the best abilities to Krang and Shredder shows they really don't understand their own fanbase. Wotc thinks the furries and lgbt++ which they cater to don't want a busted card for these two?

L, Maro, you retard
Anonymous No.96740955 >>96740965 >>96740970 >>96740976 >>96741060 >>96741451 >>96741540 >>96742104
This card should be banned
Anonymous No.96740956
>>96740943
antisemite
Anonymous No.96740962
>>96740943
>implying quirk chungus isn't exactly the target audience
they're making a marvel superheroes set and a fucking star trek set, the OG quirk chungus series
Anonymous No.96740965
>>96740955
This but unironically
Anonymous No.96740969
I am having a hard time picking a predh commander. I thought it would be easy considering the smaller pool of options.
Anonymous No.96740970 >>96740974
>>96740955
fuck you and fuck your life gain deck gay boy hate pieces SHOULD exist for popular strategies
Anonymous No.96740974 >>96740993 >>96740996 >>96741060
>>96740970
I mean would you feel that way if a card shut off combat damage for the rest of the game?
Anonymous No.96740976 >>96740981 >>96741124
>>96740955
Hate pieces are healthy for the game and anyone that says otherwise is bad at the game
Anonymous No.96740981
>>96740976
Maybe if it did it until it leaves. Being able to entirely remove a player with some 3 drop is gay
Anonymous No.96740991
SHEEEEEEEEESH These dead ass boomers low key using franchises nobody cares about. No cap.
Anonymous No.96740993 >>96740995
>>96740974
yes, but then I am a filthy stax enjoyer. nothing ever happening is what I come to do.
Anonymous No.96740995
>>96740993
Anonymous No.96740996
>>96740974
I would 100% love it until the day I die. I would never lose a game ever again (unless I get milled out)
Anonymous No.96740999 >>96741069
I think I finally found a jund commander I might enjoy. What kinda fucking giant ass spells can I pull off with this dude? The deck is gonna be like.. fucking.. 35 1-2cmc haste dudes and ~30 dumbass timmy spells
Anonymous No.96741060 >>96741112
>>96740974
>>96740955
No card effect should ever last for an entire game. It is not possible to interact with. Cards should only have effects in specific zones, on the battlefield or in the grave etc
If Screaming Nemesis said
>While this card is in the graveyard, your opponents cannot gain life
It would be much fairer
Anonymous No.96741069 >>96741081
>>96740999
X spells should always be your go-to whenever your game plan is just generating a lot of mana
Anonymous No.96741081
>>96741069
Yep that was the first thing on the list. Mass reanimate to get all my dudes back to create a shitload of more treasures was second. Would've been nice if he had blue for the easy combat card draw but oh well
Anonymous No.96741112
>>96741060
>No card effect should ever last for an entire game
No way fag you won't take my baby
Anonymous No.96741124 >>96741140
>>96740976
So, if you were rolling up with a Varolz or something and someone hit you with a 3 drop that said, "if a player is dealt combat damage by ~, they can't sacrifice permanents to pay for spells they cast or abilities they activate", you'd be fine?
Anonymous No.96741125 >>96741144 >>96741245 >>96741267 >>96741305 >>96741662 >>96742227
Strong black woman leader type legends
Anonymous No.96741140 >>96741291
>>96741124
What part of "hate pieces are healthy for the game" did you not understand? If a single card shuts down your entire deck, you made a bad deck.
Anonymous No.96741144 >>96741245
>>96741125
Lyra Dawnbringer isn't black
Anonymous No.96741158 >>96741201 >>96741213
>>96740683
Cringe Nekusar shitter, or based Winter enjoyer?
Anonymous No.96741201
>>96741158
>>96740735
Anonymous No.96741213
>>96740735
>>96741158
It isn't Nekusar so you get a pass. Interesting deck, I like it.
Anonymous No.96741245 >>96741256
>>96741125
ah yes, prudish black hags, a white teenage nerd's first choice
and yet the black men are all in yugioh lol
>>96741144
lyra is black, you don't have to cope this hard
Anonymous No.96741256 >>96741314 >>96741916
>>96741245
>the closest, most detailed depiction of her face
>clearly not black
>"cope"
Anonymous No.96741267
>>96741125
How many more of these types have been added since Eldraine 2?
Anonymous No.96741291 >>96741364
>>96741140
Hate pieces can usually be removed. A RIP can be removed. Even if half your library is in your grave and exiled, you can still dig for other pieces for Muldrotha or Lurrus or whatever. It hurts, but it's not scoop-worthy.

I'm all for hate pieces. I have a gross Atla hatebears deck that gets groaned at when I bring it out. But, you can remove shit. Even if Avacyn and hexproof Sigarda are out, a good Toxic Deluge, Farewell, or Shadowspear effect + removal are answers. And there are probably hundreds more I'm not thinking about.

The point is that it's pretty untenable for a lifegain deck to come back from that outside of non-lifegain.
Anonymous No.96741305 >>96741328 >>96741662 >>96741900
>>96741125
Where's Sisay?
Anonymous No.96741314
>>96741256
>wotc allowing an artist to deviate from a character's skin color
lol
this is how donato would draw a white person who's drawn against the light, it's not the same
Anonymous No.96741328 >>96741332
>>96741305
90's sisay was never a DEI character
Anonymous No.96741332 >>96741388 >>96741900
>>96741328
why?
Anonymous No.96741364
>>96741291
As an addendum, I don't think I can think of a card that hoses a deck archetype like that and has an effect for the rest of the game. Maybe a Planeswalker Ult of some kind? But that's hardly comparable to a 3 drop Haster nor is it comparable to a typical lifegain hate piece like Leyline of Punishment because removal exists.
Anonymous No.96741369
>>96740703
Oh, sweet faggot, sweet faggot. It's not the misogyny or racism that unites us. It's that the internet connects us in our worst possible selves as men and through it we have altered reality itself.

Blessed boy, how you miss the forest for the trees.
Anonymous No.96741373 >>96741417
>TQ
I love my wife.
>Alt TQ:
I actually have a Bumbleflower deck and I have won in the following ways.
1.Triskaidekahile and Teferis protection with thirteen in hand.
2. Twenty Toed Toad, reliquary tower, massive card draw, and a few counterspells
3. Simic Ascendancy to >20 and a Teferis protection.
4. Casting Hivemind and Forced Fruition and then decking everyone with a few simple cheap draw spells.
5. Casting Fractured Identity targeting Hivemind and everyone scooped rather than deal with the chaos.

I always used to looked down on grouphug but this has become one of my favorite decks.
Anonymous No.96741388 >>96741424 >>96741478 >>96743868
>>96741332
because sisay was a good character in her own right (as good as an mtg ip can be) while still giving gerrard his time as protag, meanwhile samut (the one you could forgive the most out of all the 2020's era black wahmen) took away the spotlight from a character more deserving of it, djeru
Anonymous No.96741399
>>96740619 (OP)
>TQ
i don't blame women any more than i would blame a child, and i treat them both pretty much the same way
Anonymous No.96741410
>>96740744
Situations like that are why I only make decks where I'm the problem from the beginning. If I'm going to be targeted id rather it be because its the smartest play. Politicking decks only get spited and group hug is for quirk chungus king making redditors.
Anonymous No.96741417
>>96741373
Most of this thread has wives. Doesn't mean they think highly of women
Anonymous No.96741424 >>96741440
>>96741388
So then wouldn't the majority of the black women on that image not count when they aren't major characters in any right?
Anonymous No.96741440 >>96741471
>>96741424
they count precisely because they're diversity hires with no story relevance and yet fail at the most basic of fanservice
you people keep insisting that it's fantasy therefore anything goes but you keep forgetting that this game is ultimately a white man's game and ironically the more anime you put in mtg the more black men you get lmao
Anonymous No.96741444 >>96741468 >>96741500 >>96741662
There shouldn't be ANY black women in MTG unless I find them attractive.
Anonymous No.96741451
>>96740955
Just you wait until the year is out.
Anonymous No.96741468
>>96741444
She'd be so much more attractive without all that godawful makeup
Anonymous No.96741471 >>96741478
>>96741440
nigger what do you mean you people I'm asking because I wanted to know why Sisay wasn't in the image
Anonymous No.96741478
>>96741471
>>96741388
Anonymous No.96741479
>>96740619 (OP)
>TQ
Literally answered last thread
>>96737638
I play it because its fun to give people extra resources. It changes the way a lot of decks play and because you are preparing for it, the upsides still favor you
Anonymous No.96741482 >>96741502
>>96740735
Non standard frames look like dogshit, thanks for reminding me to remove them from my lists
Anonymous No.96741500
>>96741444
This but all women
Anonymous No.96741502
>>96741482
Ok?
Anonymous No.96741540 >>96741610
>>96740955
Anonymous No.96741610
>>96741540
He obviously means cards that effect the game even after they're removed, which is 100% a fair point
Anonymous No.96741620
Mark wants this game to be Marvel Rivals so I help him by cheating in casual games like people do in Rivals.
Anonymous No.96741636
Anonymous No.96741649
>>96740619 (OP)
I built a group hug deck
I won by copying Nine Lives and giving it to everyone then blowing them up
and I did it the hard way, none of that Fractured Identity bullshit
Anonymous No.96741662 >>96741678 >>96741759 >>96741766 >>96741779 >>96742229 >>96742595 >>96742819
>>96741125
>>96741305
>>96741444
rolling my nubian queen
Anonymous No.96741678
>>96741662
Suck on my lizard
Anonymous No.96741759
>>96741662
I don't want any of these, this is basically who I want to enslave. Rolling for Zimone, stop trying to make her popular Wizards
Anonymous No.96741766
>>96741662
roling
Anonymous No.96741779 >>96741785
>>96741662
let'sa go
Anonymous No.96741785
>>96741779
oh fuck yeah I just built her deck, neat
Anonymous No.96741790 >>96741799 >>96746377 >>96747317
>Gishath is poorly-designed because it's an explosive must-answer card that either wins the game or isn't allowed to survive a rotation
>Pantlaza is great design because it's setup and payoff at the same time
We found the WotC designer.
Anonymous No.96741799 >>96741808 >>96741935 >>96742239
>>96741790
if he makes bad videos, why do you keep watching him
Anonymous No.96741808 >>96741946 >>96742239
>>96741799
Because social media has ruined people. There's tens of millions of people out there that are completely addicted to getting mad.
Anonymous No.96741817
>>96740730
6-8
Anonymous No.96741824
What are the most fun deck themes?
Whether it's cool art of a certain kind, mechanics, or tribe
Anonymous No.96741885
>>96740817
>>96740847
Took her apart for this exact reason
>everyone has a flooded board
>I have eriette, a support creature or two and a few enchantments
>instantly hated out when I drain for 3
Anonymous No.96741900
>>96741305
>>96741332
The actual answer is because his country didn't have internet when Sisay was relevant
Anonymous No.96741916
>>96741256
In what world is that art not black
Anonymous No.96741935 >>96741939
>>96741799
because anyone that defends pantlaza when it's just a combo from the command zone needs to be laughed at, god forbid people actually believe it's a well designed card
Anonymous No.96741939 >>96741964
>>96741935
>I am a pig and I eat slop
Anonymous No.96741946
>>96741808
A good example is a lot of people in this thread calling other people pigs who eat slop. They clearly hate MTG so why are they still here obsessing over every stupid decision wizards makes? We're addicted to watching others fail, schaudenfraude.
Anonymous No.96741964 >>96742086 >>96747060
>>96741939
>UB out of fucking nowhere
mindbroken
Anonymous No.96742064
>>96740735
Settled on a mono red commander in Ivora. Draw, discard, pump her to big levels and have her survive my own board wipes. It's simple and fun. Probably going to work on another mono red eventually, something related to exile play considering red is stock full of them probably Laelia, but for now I like Ivora.
Anonymous No.96742084
today i cut two cards from my deck and added one more
productive day
Anonymous No.96742086
>>96741964
literally rent fucking free.
Anonymous No.96742104 >>96742176
>>96740955
>$20
Anonymous No.96742122 >>96742129
>>96740692
Kill yourself
Anonymous No.96742129
>>96742122
don't project your own death wish on us leftoid
Anonymous No.96742176
>>96742104
that's a good thing because pieces in a strategy game should be restricted to people with money
Anonymous No.96742220
K-Slop Whalehunters Secret Lair
Anonymous No.96742227 >>96742263
>>96741125
Who the fuck makes something like this?
Anonymous No.96742229
>>96741662
rollan for angels
Anonymous No.96742239 >>96742253 >>96743802 >>96745014
>>96741799
>>96741808
If you don’t challenge your own viewpoints and only consume content you agree with, you are in fact the irrational one
Anonymous No.96742248
Is this the most thought provoking TQ of all time? There’s some good debate ITT
Anonymous No.96742253 >>96742261 >>96744903
>>96742239
Ah yes you're correct, allow me to go read Mein Kampf and other fascist bullshit and I'll come right back to this conversation.
Anonymous No.96742255
>>96740619 (OP)
TQ:
I only blame leftist women. They are the ones pushing to change shit, besides creating drama, more politics in EDH and sucking at the game.
I have only met two (2) girls who were actually good at the game, and both were quite intense anti-feminists.
Alt TQ:
Yes. Just being a chill guy. To keep getting invited to play.
Anonymous No.96742261
>>96742253
This bait isn’t even good. Who are you expecting to hook with this bait?
Anonymous No.96742263
>>96742227
>Who the fuck makes something like this?
wotc obv
Anonymous No.96742269 >>96742276 >>96742283 >>96742321 >>96742477 >>96745190
Is my Hearthhull deck an honest bracket 3?
https://moxfield.com/decks/33PMyuYl-EigD5aUaA5HSA
Anonymous No.96742276
>>96742269
>6 tutors
>exactly 3 game changers
>over 1k usd
lol no
Anonymous No.96742283
>>96742269
this is underpowered for bracket 3
downgrade to bracket 2 and you'll have a better time, as all land decks in that bracket tend to have
Anonymous No.96742321
>>96742269
Yeah.
I think it is about as honest as my ninja deck.
https://moxfield.com/decks/mU6Xiu0lE0S2ByEYN7R5IA
Anonymous No.96742331
>TQ
>Has anyone ever won with a group hug deck? What is the wincon here? Why would you ever play it?
A guy in my extended pod wins with a modified bumbleflower precon...maybe not all the time but definitely not a zero winrate. The win condition is to whittle the game down to a 1v1 and then use a protected ms bumbleflower to seal the deal.
Anonymous No.96742409 >>96742649
I wonder if the dong zhou player still posts here
Anonymous No.96742477
>>96742269
I remember you, Sol Ring cutting faggot
Anonymous No.96742488
>>96740730
>wasted a perfectly good quicksilver bullet for muh warning shot
Baka fucking gaijin
Anonymous No.96742595
>>96741662
trips check'm
Anonymous No.96742648 >>96742664
How casual is Talrand if I take all spells?
For reference, my group wants to do a "semi-pauper" where commanders are rares but everything else is uncommon/common. Didn't know if anybody else has ran Talrand in a similar environment.
Anonymous No.96742649 >>96742654
>>96742409
There's several of us, but yes
Anonymous No.96742654 >>96746600 >>96747128
>>96742649
Need more pictures like this
My magic folder is direly lacking
Anonymous No.96742664 >>96743490
>>96742648
any reason you go with rarity and not total deck price?
I have always found the latter to foster more deck diversity (since you have a budget and not such a strict limit on the card pool)
Anonymous No.96742738
I don't mind UB and I think people who genuinely dislike it are genuinely just kind of stupid and don't have real problems to worry about in their life.
Anonymous No.96742785 >>96742791 >>96743614 >>96744521 >>96747484
>>96740943
No one gives a fuck about flavor text.
No one gives a fuck about lore.
No one gives a fuck about art.

The only thing that determines a set's success are how powerful it is. People will bitch and cry about playing Ninja Turtle cards but if the set has new staples and generally good cards they will use them through their tears.
Anonymous No.96742791 >>96742876
>>96742785
FALSE a good card with a cute girl will sell more than a good card with an ugly ogre FACT TRUTH NUKE
Anonymous No.96742819
>>96741662
One cutie, please
Anonymous No.96742876 >>96743058 >>96743814
>>96742791
Yes if both cards are the exact same level of good (or are in the same) but one has better art, people in general will be willing to spend $10-40 more but that has nothing to do with what I said. The people calling UB slop will play UB if it's a good or better card, because 90% of the playerbase are in fact slop consumers who rely on pushed cards, hence why 90%+ of decks have Sol Ring in it and why The One Ring gets so much play despite being $60+ dollarydoos (it'd be in 90%+ decks if it cost $1-10 dollars).

The only way UB fails is if WOTC keeps printing Spider Man tier underpowered sets.
Anonymous No.96743058
>>96742876
I wouldn't play it even if it was cheap.
I got a better draw engine in my command zone.
Anonymous No.96743104 >>96743211 >>96743242 >>96744813
>draw engine in the command zone
>ramp engine in the command zone
holy cringe
Anonymous No.96743211 >>96744813
>>96743104
>Aesi in the command zone
Anonymous No.96743242 >>96744813
>>96743104
heh thankfully my prosper does neither of these things since he exiles but doesn't draw and refunds mana and doesn't ramp
Anonymous No.96743267
how many trumpet blast and token makers should I be running in my balmor deck? There's like 3 or 4 more trumpet blast cards in red and around 6 or 7 more straight 1/1 token or token with prowess makers. Should I be cutting creatures for token making spells? I also feel like I may be running too many lands and rocks.

>wee dragonauts or a hordeling outburst or another trumpet blast?

https://moxfield.com/decks/1gpNB-2WSUmf4f1dMVDofQ
Anonymous No.96743364 >>96743400
how does Evereth work? buddy says that she gets +1+1 counters everytime anything on his side is sacrificed even through other avenues and that she can get both the mana from treasures and the counters, but the card clearly says that to get the counters she needs to be the one saccing them with her sorcery speed effect? is he right and I'm just retarded?
Anonymous No.96743395 >>96744818
Considering running this guy in vamps, thoughts?
Seems really strong to me given that he pretty much rapes any other creature decks, especially token ones, but he doesn't seem to be used by many people for some reason so idk.
Anonymous No.96743400 >>96743411
>>96743364
Your interpretation is correct.
She doesn't say "whenever you sacrifice", she has "sacrifice x:", which is a cost for an activated ability instead of a trigger for a triggered ability.
Your friend is either bullshitting you or retarded.
Anonymous No.96743411 >>96743413 >>96743451
>>96743400
I knew that there was something wrong. this tard was shitting out endless ramp via treasures while also getting his commander stacked up in very few turns, felt oppressive as hell. Thanks
Anonymous No.96743413
>>96743411
Yeah she would be absurdly broken if her effect was a triggered ability lol
Anonymous No.96743451
>>96743411
Yeah, he needs to spend a bit more mana to get that effect in the form of Korvold if he wants it. It's still oppressive when he's out, but at least he comes out a tiny bit later.
Anonymous No.96743471 >>96743478 >>96743495 >>96743880 >>96743897
Friendly daily reminder that the RC could have banned UB pigslop and saved the game/format and caused irreparable damage to Hasbro stock but they instead sold their format out in exchange for trinkets and cardboard goodies worth less than 5,000 dollars in the form of insider tips about upcoming reprints.

And it was all done under the guise of alleged threats. And those threats that led to the dissolution allowed Hasbro to make half a billion dollars selling FF products 9 months later. I'm not pointing fingers because that's slander, but what a lucky set of coincidences!
Anonymous No.96743478 >>96743524
>>96743471
You say that like Hasbro couldn't have just stolen control of the format from them and C&D'd them into oblivion if they resisted.
Anonymous No.96743490
>>96742664
Frankly it's not worth explaining that to the Xoomers (yes with an x) I play with. Their hubris will not account for such a possibility
Anonymous No.96743495 >>96743524
>>96743471
As if anyone would've still listened to them if they banned UB stuff. This is the format where you can play whatever you have lying around with a minimal ban list to still make games enjoyable. Blanket banning sets just torpedoes your credibility and makes people do their own thing or listen to someone else.
Anonymous No.96743524 >>96743541
>>96743478
Sure, they could have. But that would happen AFTER the RC goes on the offense and accelerates the UB Bad/Commanderification of Magic bad sentiment. Instead they went quietly into that good night without doing anything at all. Maybe Hasbro would have went on a legal rampage against a small group of guys passionate about the game but that would be a worse look for them than the pinkertons fiasco.

It's not like 2025 was the straw that broke the camel's back or anything, the non-KotC shill influencers would have doubled down on backing their play and whatever the outcome was would have been better than where we're at right now.

>>96743495
Yes but again, anything would be better than this. If Hasbro wanted to make the power play for the rights to their sacred cash cow they'd at least be fighting a losing battle for it rather than being gifted the keys because someone caught a spooky fright on twitter,
Anonymous No.96743539
>>96740735
Anonymous No.96743541 >>96743602 >>96743709
>>96743524
They wouldn't be fighting a losing battle because you're in the extreme minority, even people who are moderately anti-UB would consider it an outrageous overreach for a bunch of literal whos to ban entire sets just because they don't like them.
Anonymous No.96743564 >>96743697 >>96743905
Reminder that WotC does in fact not condone "proxies" as cheaters/counterfeiters like to use them.
According to their definition, a proxy is a single-use card issued by a judge for use in a sanctioned event.
Printing cards yourself is counterfeiting and not welcome in our community.
I paid for my cards so you have to pay for yours. It's only fair.
Anonymous No.96743602 >>96743632 >>96743911
>>96743541
>you're in the extreme minority
>The restaurant is doing so well and has so many patrons. How can you be upset? Getting more customers into the restaurant has to be a good thing.
No one "moderately anti-UB" would consider it an overreach because they're still anti-UB. There aren't degrees to this, you either want it in the game or you don't. The flavour of the month UB Timmy isn't going to be playing 6 months from now, and that "extreme minority" grows and gets more ravenous for the UB purge every week when the temporary majority Final Fantasy Freddy tourist adds to the churn rate.
Anonymous No.96743614 >>96743902 >>96747484
>>96742785
This is incorrect. You may be an all-consuming insect, but I got into Magic because of its setting and the art on cards. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about the power level of sets. In fact with 6 fucking sets a year I’m glad when some are shit because we don’t need constant powercreep and constant fucking replacement of existing cards.
The only thing that matters for power level is what goes in the command zone, and considering there’s already almost 2,700 legal commanders, I think we’ll be just fine for options

Congratulations anon, you just learned that other people don’t think the same way you do! Youre one step closer to developing a theory of mind!
Anonymous No.96743632 >>96743641 >>96743669
>>96743602
Well you're just wrong, most people don't want a bunch of faceless retards who aren't even associated with the company that they can't use entire sets.
There are very few people who are as extremely anti-UB as you are, there's many people who kinda dislike it but would dislike massive overreach like that more and don't live in a perpetual meltdown over the existence of those sets, even if they don't like them.
>muh piggies
Hilarious and original! Doesn't change that it's literally true, the council would've just committed suicide if they had chosen to alienate the vast majority of players over a powertrip.
You're never getting the game you want back.
Anonymous No.96743641 >>96743915
>>96743632
The longer this shit goes on the more radical rhe moderates get. I know you don’t FEEL like it’s real, but you can go look at the comments on social media posts or YouTube videos about UB; even if the content is positive, the comments are getting fucking tired
Anonymous No.96743669 >>96743693
>>96743632
And you aren't going to have a job or home when the cyclical nostalgia bubble bursts in 5 years, Mark. Ride it while it lasts and hope that the recreation market even survives the recession so you can get a job in the industry after the layoffs.
Anonymous No.96743693
>>96743669
Rosewater is eternal. Isn’t he even quoted as saying he wants Magic to outlive him? He is basically saying he wants it to be his legacy and it will be his success
Meanwhile he has done nothing but fucking rape Magic to chase profits for shareholders while gaslighting the playerbase
Anonymous No.96743697
>>96743564
THIS!!!!
Anonymous No.96743709 >>96743926
>>96743541
>outrageous overreach for a bunch of literal whos to ban entire sets just because they don't like them.
You mean like Un sets…?
Anonymous No.96743781
>little league tournament
>guy with WW deck use over half of allowed budget with a Elspeth Storm Slayer

He got second place at my table though
Anonymous No.96743802
>>96742239
>I need to watch morons spout retardation to challenge my own viewpoints
I get plenty of that here without having to watch a 20 minute video by a retard
Anonymous No.96743814
>>96742876
>The people calling UB slop will play UB if it's a good or better card
shan't
Anonymous No.96743868 >>96743943
>>96741388
Gideon was the one who took the spotlight away from Djeru. What are you smoking?
Anonymous No.96743880 >>96743951 >>96743963 >>96743987 >>96744953
>>96743471
The same annoying faggots who won't stop spamming SLOP SLOP SLOP are also the same annoying faggots who spammed the RC with death threats when they banned your investard crutch cards. The game doesn't need "saving", you faggots just need to stop playing and go cry in other TCG forums.
Anonymous No.96743897
>>96743471
What a retarded post, why would the RC ban UB? Why would the community listen to such a retarded decision? Why do you refuse to believe people are unhinged on the internet. Get help anon.
Anonymous No.96743902
>>96743614
And one day you'll learn most players don't think like you, so sitting there all day pissing and shitting your pants about UB is just you wasting your time and emotions on something the overwhelming majority of the playerbase doesn't care about and which the company will never walk back on.
Anonymous No.96743905
>>96743564
Why are you lying? Wotc calls them PLAYTEST CARDS and they support their use.
Anonymous No.96743911
>>96743602
>there arent degrees
>autistic retarded doesnt understand nuance
Love to see it
Anonymous No.96743915
>>96743641
the people retarded enough to ban UB cards simply for being UB are already filthy casuals that only play in their basements and use rule zero very liberally
the ones you're desperately trying to convince are lgs players that know banning UB is bad for business no matter how hard you stomp your foot like a child
Anonymous No.96743923 >>96743936 >>96743995
If you're on Green, is there a reason to play Crucible of Worlds over Walk-in Closet?
Anonymous No.96743926 >>96743975
>>96743709
un sets are ostensibly joke sets that were never designed to be taken seriously and by the time wotc wanted them to be legal in edh the humor had long overstayed its welcome
Anonymous No.96743936
>>96743923
only the edgiest of edge cases
though, most decks that want a crucible effect run several of them
Anonymous No.96743943
>>96743868
but gideon isn't the character that represents amonkhet, it was either samut or djeru and they didn't give the spotlight to the guy that was once a true believer, wasting all drama and character growth
Anonymous No.96743951 >>96743955 >>96743957 >>96743961
>>96743880
the "death threats" were likely wildly overblown to give the RC an excuse to hand over control to WOTC (likely part and parcel with some form of compensation by Wizards)
Anonymous No.96743955
>>96743951
the death threats were delivered by pinkerton agents direct from wotc lol
Anonymous No.96743957
>>96743951
Kind of irrelevant! Those involved get to decide how seriously they want to take the threats. You might actually have brain damage anon youre saying some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.
Anonymous No.96743961
>>96743951
why would the RC need an excuse? why couldn't they have just ceded control without banning lotus the goblin and mana crypt?
Anonymous No.96743963
>>96743880
the pig is shaking
Anonymous No.96743975 >>96743984
>>96743926
>UB sets are ostensibly joke sets that were never designed to be taken seriously and by the time wotc wanted them to be legal in edh the humor had long overstayed its welcome
Anonymous No.96743984
>>96743975
you got that right baby boy
Anonymous No.96743987 >>96744009
>>96743880
>spammed the RC with death threats
This didn’t happen. Cute that youre naive enough to believe a PR smokescreen though
Anonymous No.96743995
>>96743923
The only reason I can think of is playing Glissa, the Traitor. Maybe if you run a subtheme that cares about card types and you're in need of more artifacts?
Anonymous No.96744009 >>96744741 >>96746161
>>96743987
>yes yes the death threat was such an elaborate ruse that we're not going to use it again to blow off the UB haters
Anonymous No.96744048 >>96744054 >>96744069 >>96744935
Can someone explain to me why Lotus Vale's oracle text is an additional cost rather than an ETB? Rogue Elephant from the same set, templated the same way, is an ETB but this isn't, and I do NOT understand why.
Anonymous No.96744054
>>96744048
Because it comes into play untapped and if it were an etb you could just float the mana with the trigger on the stack before choosing to let it die which would be horrendously broken.
Anonymous No.96744069 >>96744384
>>96744048
>why not ETB
being an actual lotus that you can run a set of with the cost being your land drop sounds pretty broken to me
Anonymous No.96744314
Fa/tg/uys who have been playing for over 10 years: share the oldest decklist you have on record.
>https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lets-get-this-party-started/
Over a decade ago I used to jam this awful Rakdos deck filled with a bunch of terrible temporary steal effects (0 sac outlets) and curses because I thought they were cool as fuck.
Anonymous No.96744384 >>96744412 >>96744523
>>96744069
I mean, is it though? It wouldn't be a lotus really, it'd be a sorcery-speed any-colour dark ritual with the additional cost that you lose the land you used to cast the ritual.

But I get your point, and in any case I was more curious as to why it was oracled differently to a card with the same templating- and I now realise the answer, which is that the stack didn't exist when it was printed and the change was to keep it in line with how it worked at the time of printing. Though it does make me sad that I can't stifle the ETB like with lotus field.
Anonymous No.96744412
>>96744384
>I mean, is it though?
Yes. There are a million effects that allow extra land drops and pull lands out of the graveyard that would make it easily abusable.
Anonymous No.96744521 >>96747484
>>96742785
>No one gives a fuck about art.
the only reason I am playing is because of the art.
Anonymous No.96744523 >>96744924
>>96744384
For comparison, City of Traitors is one of the most powerful lands in Legacy, and it only produces 2 colorless mana.
Simian Spirit Guide is a ritual for 1 mana and it's banned in Modern.
Anonymous No.96744682 >>96744728
>have a few bad games in a row
>wonder if I would just stop playing entirely
Anonymous No.96744728
>>96744682
post decklist
Anonymous No.96744741 >>96744988
>>96744009
If they use it again it will be even more obvious.
Anonymous No.96744747 >>96744757 >>96744834
>>96740735
>this thread sucks
>posts Dr. Who garbage

mega faggot detected
Anonymous No.96744753 >>96744791 >>96744937
Want to buy a card but I'm unsure if I should do it.

>seller is italian
>card is the cheapest price by far
>card is graded near mint but seller has a 2% rating of misgrading
price is below 10€. greed or go for a reliable country?
Anonymous No.96744757
>>96744747
welcome to edhg, where we do not discuss the format and only try to bait each other into schizoposting
Anonymous No.96744791
>>96744753
Why would you care about the grading of a card under ten bucks?
Anonymous No.96744813 >>96744887
>>96743104
>>96743211
>>96743242
>not putting a land in the command zone
Anonymous No.96744818
>>96743395
Is it mono black, or orzhov vampires? You could do Ixalan vampires and include some cards like this and Soul Warden then.
Anonymous No.96744834
>>96744747
classic poopdickschizo post
Anonymous No.96744887 >>96744913
>>96744813
>4 mana for a tapped land
el oh el
Anonymous No.96744903 >>96745014
>>96742253
>I cant bring myself to read the opposition’s work, nazis are scary!
just announce to the world you’re intellectually stunted. You’re too cowardly to understand the people you despise and simultaneously wish death on them. Spineless bitchnigger.
Anonymous No.96744913 >>96744922 >>96744934
>>96744887
A guaranteed 4 CMC +2 mana ramp in the command zone that can easily one shot people with commander damage after you cast a few more spells is quite good, anon.
Anonymous No.96744922 >>96744927
>>96744913
>needing to ramp into ramp
classic karametra problem
Anonymous No.96744924 >>96745095
>>96744523
>want city of traitors and grim monolith
>"That will be 50 gorillion dollars plus tip"
JUST REPRINT THEM
Anonymous No.96744927 >>96744938
>>96744922
You don't need to 'ramp' into having 4 mana. That's something you should easily have on turn 2 or 3.
Anonymous No.96744934 >>96744941
>>96744913
I actually quite like Arixmethes, the flavour and design are very cool, and I'm well aware that 4 mana ramp 2 is a perfectly good rate
I'm just being facetious
Anonymous No.96744935 >>96745307
>>96744048
because JOTC realized late they made a black lotus sidegrade and nerfed it in oracle text despite claiming they would never do that
Anonymous No.96744937 >>96744951
>>96744753
How much is the card below the average selling price? Also what's their stock look like, no point getting upset over 5-10yr old penny cards getting slightly mis-graded so it could be an unfair review
Anonymous No.96744938 >>96744941
>>96744927
>you dont need to ramp
>just have 4 mana on turn 2
???
Anonymous No.96744941 >>96744989 >>96745009
>>96744934
There are some extremely funny things you can do with him.

Dress Down also makes him enter immediately as a 12/12 which is hilarious.

>>96744938
It's entirely possible to have a sol ring, mana vault, or whatever else on turn 1 and then 2 lands in play turn 2.
Anonymous No.96744951 >>96745012
>>96744937
50% below. He mostly has old set foils on sale. I bought because I lost the secret lair lottery today.
Anonymous No.96744953 >>96745010
>>96743880
>death threats
This is the oldest jewish PR trick and if you fall for it you’re a retard
Anonymous No.96744988
>>96744741
except they can't use it because people don't actually sperg out about UB cards that rarely see play in cedh
Anonymous No.96744989 >>96745237 >>96745657
>>96744941
>just get sol ring in your opening hand bro
Not the guy you're arguing with, but I still don't believe my decks have a sol ring in them. I never fucking see the thing.
Anonymous No.96745009 >>96745121
>>96744941
>It's entirely possible to have a sol ring, mana vault, or whatever else on turn 1 and then 2 lands in play turn 2
thats ramp you actual moron
Anonymous No.96745010
>>96744953
and yet here you are, discussing and playing a jew game
Anonymous No.96745012
>>96744951
>50%
buy it then, you're not going to lose that percentage in value going from NM to EX
Anonymous No.96745014
>>96744903
>>96742239
This retarded viewpoint does not hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. Its a meme made to push a "diverse" society which has been shown to be a failure.
Anonymous No.96745095
>>96744924
>want city of traitors and grim monolith
>"That will be 50 gorillion dollars plus tip
>go to the library and print off a sheet of them for a dollar instead
Anonymous No.96745121 >>96745195
>>96745009
Yeah, and what is the big deal? You're playing green. You will have ramp in your opening hand.
Anonymous No.96745190 >>96746402
>>96742269
hey anon, how has the deck been working out for you so far? I run a similar Szarel list that also tries to win with mass sac lands. What other ways to win do you have? I noticed a lot of Lumra combos and how much dmg do you normally get from Valakut Exploration? thanks in advance.
Anonymous No.96745195 >>96745987
>>96745121
Needing to ramp into ramp is an easily disrupted strategy that leaves fewer cards in hand to actually take advantage of the additional mana you generate.
This is the classic Karametra problem.
If you could read, you would understand that already.
Anonymous No.96745237 >>96745430 >>96745526
>>96744989
I put Worldslayer into my pic rel voltron deck as a joke 6 years ago, still haven't fucking drawn the goddamned thing
Anonymous No.96745239
>>96740807
Do you have a way to cheat the col hammer?
Anonymous No.96745283 >>96745325
>>96740812
Play Purphoros Bronze Blooded, anything but boring
Anonymous No.96745307
>>96744935
It was errata'd when the rules changed which would allow you to tap it before its ability resolved.
Anonymous No.96745325 >>96745366
>>96745283
>using the patron saint of goblins in any other deck
How dare you
Anonymous No.96745366
>>96745325
wrong Purphoros
Anonymous No.96745430 >>96745552
>>96745237
Isn't it funny you'll draw some of the same cards every damn game, but there will a handful you never see? Pisses me off.
Anonymous No.96745504 >>96745701
>think about brewing every day
>8 different unfinished lists on archidekt
>no decks assembled IRL except one precon
>haven't played a game in months
Help, i have brain problems
Anonymous No.96745526
>>96745237
have you considered shuffling?
Anonymous No.96745552 >>96745609
>>96745430
That is unironically a shuffling issue
consider changing your method
Anonymous No.96745609 >>96745702
>>96745552
Show me jackass
Anonymous No.96745615 >>96745643
Proxying is troon behavior
Anonymous No.96745643 >>96745801 >>96745813
>>96745615
not proxying is piggy behavior. SLOPSLOPSLOPSLOPSLOP HERE PIGGY
Anonymous No.96745657 >>96745860
>>96744989
>when you need business from the top and draw sol ring in turn 7
Anonymous No.96745660 >>96745680
>try to buy off of secret lair
>go to checkout less than 60 seconds after going live
>still have a 30 minute wait
>everything I wanted sold from under me
I know I'm a retard for expecting to buy anything good from the secret lair site but still disappointed. What's the best site for chinamans proxychads?
Anonymous No.96745674
>>96740619 (OP)
>TQ
Not me personally but my buddy wins with Gluntch a lot. Usually he just asks why people are targeting him for 20 turns and then Aetherfluxes #2 when the other guys don't kill him
Anonymous No.96745680
>>96745660
I got "in line" 40 minutes early and they still sold out of the artist SLD and the foil Eddie SLD.
Anonymous No.96745689
Da orcs. Im tempted to remove most of the green cards from this so I can simplify the manabase. Most of the green is just for ramp and frankly this deck is too many lands and ramp and rocks. Its not intended to win exactly, its my version of a theme deck. But I feel like making tje mana base less expensive and removing some ramp for other value might he good idk.
Anonymous No.96745701 >>96745709 >>96745782
>>96745504
nothing some SSRIs wouldnt be able to "fix".
be careful though: do you really wanna be that guy with 8+ decks?
Anonymous No.96745702
>>96745609
>show me
how to change your shuffling method? google it retard. There are many ways to shuffle, you clearly are doing your method incorrectly.
If nothing else just give it a good pile shuffle every once in a while, break up those clumps.
Anonymous No.96745709 >>96745717 >>96745719 >>96745754
>>96745701
W-what's wrong with having 8+ decks?
Anonymous No.96745717
>>96745709
just ask yourself: is it worth it to become that person?
Anonymous No.96745719
>>96745709
As someone who has way more than 8 decks I only really play about 6 of them with any regularity.
I could stand to take apart at least half of them.
Anonymous No.96745729 >>96745734 >>96745998
any commanders and decks that don't revolve entirely around making a billion of fucking tokens and putting counters? I'm so tired of those two mechanics
Anonymous No.96745734 >>96745739
>>96745729
have you considered not being a shitter and moving away from simic?
Anonymous No.96745739 >>96745749
>>96745734
now now
He could be Selesnya
Anonymous No.96745749
>>96745739
Whoa whoa whoa
thems fightin' words.
Slander against vitu-ghazi will not be tolerated.
Anonymous No.96745754
>>96745709
I used to have 8 bracket 3/PL 6 decks, but decided to keep 4 of them and scrapped the rest. I used the money from the scrapped decks to upgrade the 4 I had left to bracket 4. I still have a sideboard for 3 of them to downgrade if I have to, but this is what I ended up doing. I might build one more cheap "for fun" deck at some point, but taking a break for now.
Anonymous No.96745782
>>96745701
>do you really wanna be that guy with 8+ decks?
Fortunately if I dont count my precon, I only have 7
Anonymous No.96745795 >>96745812
I like making decks in this deck building game. Easily over 20 and if i wasnt lazy would be even higher
Anonymous No.96745801 >>96745816
>>96745643
> this piece of paper I wrote on with a pen identifies as a legal mtg card!!!
Ok, Alice
Anonymous No.96745812
>>96745795
I have completed 459 decks in paper since 2013.
Anonymous No.96745813 >>96745823
>>96745643
>slopslopslop here piggy
Can yoi at least get your retard posting right this doesnt even make sense
Anonymous No.96745816 >>96745878
>>96745801
Imagine being so lazy and retarded that you don't know how to order from MPC
Anonymous No.96745823
>>96745813
>Making sense
ngl low key cringe af no cap
Anonymous No.96745835
>started playing around RTR
>been told pic related sucks, but still wanted to play it
>game is dying
>starting to close out the bucket list
>actually really like the deck
never listen to people, they are stupid.
Anonymous No.96745848 >>96745894 >>96745923 >>96745968
Hey guys, getting into magic and have some questions
>Playing with a group who does prebuilt commanders a lot, should I buy a prebuilt to play with them
>Can I make an all RNG deck? I like hearthstone evolve shaman and the Reno cards
Anonymous No.96745860 >>96745957
>>96745657
>doesn't have a mana sink on the board turn 7
el oh el
Anonymous No.96745878 >>96745892
>>96745816
Yes, you are an NPC and associate with NPC
Anonymous No.96745892
>>96745878
>and associate with NPC
Good morning sar
Anonymous No.96745894
>>96745848
>Hey guys, getting into magic and have some questions
>>Playing with a group who does prebuilt commanders a lot, should I buy a prebuilt to play with them
>>Can I make an all RNG deck? I like hearthstone evolve shaman and the Reno cards
Abandon all hope ye who enter here.

J/k, ummm,
1) Yes
2) No
Anonymous No.96745923
>>96745848
>evolve shaman
picrel

As for your questions:
1) Assuming you don't know shit all else about magic deckbuilding, this is a perfectly reasonable option. You can build your own first deck as long as you're willing to accept that it might suck and that there's a good chance you'll have to scrap half of it.

2) Yes, absolutely. Most such effects are in red and some are in green. Look into Etali, Primal Conquerer or Plargg and Nassari.
Anonymous No.96745957
>>96745860
I mean I can activate Mutavault multiple times.
Anonymous No.96745963 >>96746020
>Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!
Anonymous No.96745968
>>96745848
>Playing with a group who does prebuilt commanders a lot, should I buy a prebuilt to play with them
Of course you can, or you can build your own with the understanding that it may be too weak or too strong, based on your card analysis and deck building skill
>Can I make an all RNG deck? I like hearthstone evolve shaman and the Reno cards
Polymorph cards will transform one card on board into another in your deck. You can curate your deck so that the polymorph targets are always big bombs by running only big creatures and using non-creature spells to create tokens to use as poly morph trargets
https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Apolymorph&unique=cards&utm_source=tagger
Anonymous No.96745987 >>96746015
>>96745195
Anon, you are clearly overthinking things. You just get to 4 mana by turn 3 almost always in a green deck, and if it isn't a good time to play the commander, just play it next turn.
Anonymous No.96745998 >>96746010 >>96746013 >>96746047
>>96745729
+1/+1 counter spam and token spam are some of the most boring strategies imaginable.
Anonymous No.96746010 >>96746034 >>96746085
>>96745998
>token spam
More rectangles = win
Fundamental truth of the game
Go play ygo if this offends you
Anonymous No.96746013 >>96746085 >>96746135
>>96745998
>hey cool new commander
>brew the deck
>its just another counter/token pay off deck
>scrap the entire thing
Anonymous No.96746015 >>96746085
>>96745987
Explosive Vegetation is a bad card, putting it in your command zone doesn't change that
Anonymous No.96746020 >>96746357
>>96745963
I'm disappointed the actual three times thing was a separate sorcery and not inherit to his effect.
Anonymous No.96746024 >>96746048 >>96746065 >>96746082 >>96746095 >>96746137
This is by far the most "im a pig and i eat slop" card that was ever made. All people that run this are objectively bad at the game and usually the most retarded type of "lol geek random nerdz xD" type. I hate it so, so, so much.
Anonymous No.96746034
>>96746010
>More rectangles = win
>oh no not 25 damage
>anyway ill play vizkopa guild mage and gain 40 life
Anonymous No.96746037 >>96746045
hey guys, is it okay if I play this rule zero card?
Anonymous No.96746045
>>96746037
knock yourself out, conjure is a cool mechanic
Anonymous No.96746047 >>96746085 >>96746086
>>96745998
>+1/+1 counter spam

one counter is all i need lil bro
Anonymous No.96746048
>>96746024
I built it just to piss off the hexproof fags for one game and then took it apart because it was too powerful lolz
Anonymous No.96746065 >>96746077
>>96746024
>This is by far the most "im a pig and i eat slop" card that was ever made.
thats actually knuckles but its a very close race
Anonymous No.96746077
>>96746065
The thing is, sonic fans are freaks.
They're not normalfags chowing down on slop because they have no taste, they're a pack of freakish perverts who have a very specific set of tastes. It's not the same thing.
Anonymous No.96746082
>>96746024
Yeah I hate Deadpool too
Anonymous No.96746085
>>96746015
No, but putting a 12/12 in the command zone is pretty great.
>>96746010
That's nice anon, can I introduce you to my good friend Aetherize/Aetherspouts
>>96746013
This is the worst feeling imaginable. Seeing a commander that you think looks cool, but then you build it and it's just generic goodstuff or it has such a generic ability that it synergizes too well with the most boring shit possible.

>>96746047
Marchesa is different since you aren't just playing 20 counter doublers and sitting there accruing value and doing nothing else.
Anonymous No.96746086 >>96746130
>>96746047
god I love her every single version of Marchesa is a sick card
including Battle for Fiora
I really want a full set there
Anonymous No.96746095 >>96746159 >>96746293 >>96746330
>>96746024
Deadpool is one of the lamest possible cards ever printed. It's like everything wrong with a MTG card.

>Slop
>Obnoxious and stupid effect that is just 'I turn off your commander lol'
>Exclusively played by people looking to make the game as unfun as possible for someone
Anonymous No.96746112 >>96746144 >>96749729
>tfw getting tempted to make a Nekusar deck now
WHITE MAN CAME ACROSS THE SEA
HE BROUGHT NO GAMES FOR THE PS3
Anonymous No.96746130 >>96746175
>>96746086
her deck enables my favorite enchantment ever. I usually just used it in Lifelink decks, but on Marchesa is an absolute flawless engine..
Anonymous No.96746135
>>96746013
Found that happens a few times. Usually when the deck ends up leaning more into natural color synergies and less with whatever the commander is doing inherently. Usually try some retooling until it feels more unique to the commander. Which have this happened to you with?
Anonymous No.96746137
>>96746024
>fucks over fags playing FIREslop
>combos with just about anything if you use your head
If it wasn't capeshit it would be based as fuck
Anonymous No.96746144 >>96746153 >>96746157 >>96749729
>>96746112
>lair sold out in an hour
Hope you're ready to pay Mr scalper 59.99 plus tip for that single anon
Anonymous No.96746153 >>96746296
>>96746144
I managed to get one of the last non-foil ones. I only missed the demonic tutor lair.
Anonymous No.96746157
>>96746144
or Zhang $1
Anonymous No.96746159 >>96746169 >>96746171
>>96746095
>>Obnoxious and stupid effect that is just 'I turn off your commander lol'

> Deadpool
Nooo you cant just run slop!!!

> Oko
Heh, looks like your commander got sheeped, noob
Anonymous No.96746161 >>96746314 >>96746358
>>96744009
What is there to blow off?
In the RC situation WotC was just taking back the format, something it was already in their power to do, but they needed an excuse that would make even their critics defend them
>well I don’t like WotC BUT if it’s for the safety of the RC…
Worked a fucking treat.

It doesn’t even make more sense? How did it make the RC more safe? It’s not like WotC reversed the bans or could somehow prevent harm to the RC once they had the format.
It was illogical and only retards fell for it

With UB why do they need death threats? They can print as much UB as they want, and they’re doing so. They can break any promises they want about the amount of UB, they can gaslightthe player base into believing that theres not enough demand for UW and then just sweep it under the rug when people are more excited for Omen Paths than Spider-Man.
They’re in complete control
Anonymous No.96746169
>>96746159
Oko is also a faggot card, anon. One of the most obnoxious and gamebreaking cards ever made.
Anonymous No.96746171
>>96746159
Oko doesnt go in the command zone
Anonymous No.96746173
>filter s*op
>thread improves infinitely

/slop\s|slop\W/i;boards:tg;reason:brown;stub:no
Anonymous No.96746175
>>96746130
I love that card, I put it in my deck for Cecil.
Anonymous No.96746293
>>96746095
>I turn off your commander lol
based
Anonymous No.96746296 >>96746305 >>96746308
>>96746153
>mfw only wanted the dt lair and the maiden lair and the maiden one sold put with 5 minutes left on queue
Anonymous No.96746305
>>96746296
The Eddie Unleashed one said sold out for me with 1 min left.
Then I got into the store and it was actually still there.
Anonymous No.96746308
>>96746296
fucking hell get yourself together man.
Anonymous No.96746314
>>96746161
i can already tell that you're a filthy casual as banning the infamous trio of cards fucked up cedh meta for the worst and i can assure you the type of westoids that are willing to spend $3k+ on cardboard to play cedh that doesn't even pay you back on investment (like at all) are not the most stable of minds
Anonymous No.96746330 >>96746336 >>96746493
>>96746095
>noooo you can't turn off my crutch my deck doesn't work without it!
cry me a ribbit gay boy
Anonymous No.96746336
>>96746330
this
Anonymous No.96746342 >>96746347 >>96746401
What improvements can I make to this deck, what can I add?

https://archidekt.com/decks/16540399/all_about_the_summons_baby
Anonymous No.96746347 >>96746370
>>96746342
what issues do you have when you play it?
Anonymous No.96746357 >>96746371
>>96746020
Yeah, I don't know what WoTC was thinking with that. But it does give my Teval deck one more Grapple from the Past effect, so it's not all bad.
Anonymous No.96746358
>>96746161
Dumb people shouldnt be allowed online
Anonymous No.96746370 >>96746404
>>96746347
I'm building it now and just looking to see if I have any noticeable openings or anything that won't work as intended
Anonymous No.96746371 >>96746382
>>96746357
>Yeah, I don't know what WoTC was thinking with that
It was actually a pretty cool card in standard for a little bit
Anonymous No.96746377 >>96746395 >>96746410
>>96741790
my friend keeps copying his decklists and god they are fucking dogshit. If i say anything about them he answers "dont question snail" lmao
Anonymous No.96746382
>>96746371
I don't doubt it.
Anonymous No.96746395
>>96746377
Snail has the data bro you cant question it
Anonymous No.96746401
>>96746342
>Lore counters for Falco's top deck casting cost
Oh hey, I like this idea. That being said is there any need for the mana creatures your running? Same with the Cluestone. Wouldn't think you'd need those. Have you done any testing yet to see how it plays out and how you intend to win?
Anonymous No.96746402 >>96746492
>>96745190
>how has the deck been working out for you so far?
It's very fun to play and has won ~30% of the dozen or so games I've played with it against other B3 decks. I am currently revising the list a little, with an emphasis on cutting cards that don't contribute to the pay off burn/combo turn where i try to win via mass Hearthy planet-glassing. Tannuk is the first to go as he is a bit superfluous as if I am churning through lands effectively i can often sacrifice everything and recur it two or three times to well and truly kill the table. Summon Titan is a bit slow to set up, and frequently gets removed before it can pop-off. There are a few other cards I've trimmed.

>What other ways to win do you have?
It is pretty all-in on the land-sac strategy. I've been considering things like the Titania that creates tokens when lands go to the graveyard to create some board presence, as the deck sorely lacks defensive tools as you never want to block with a creature because they're all serving a purpose to propel the above strategy.

>I noticed a lot of Lumra combos
I tried to avoid this, as otherwise I could just he playing a more casual version of the Lumra cEDH list. I also avoided things like Strip Mine and Glacial Chasm to make the deck less annoying as I don't tend to get a lot of players at my LGS keen for anything over B3 gameplay.

>how much dmg do you normally get from Valakut Exploration?
Usually only a couple of points, as I tend to try and take advantage of the card advantages it gives. Although I haven't actually seen it many games I've played, so hard to say with certainty at this point.
Anonymous No.96746404
>>96746370
great, let me know how it plays then I can help you.
Anonymous No.96746410
>>96746377
>my friend keeps copying his decklists
I don't get this. Sure, check out other lists and see if they found any synergies you may not have but outright copying a deck feels like it would remove one of the most fun parts of the game. Tinkering and testing stuff. Digging for cards that may just work and seeing if they do or not.
Anonymous No.96746418 >>96746457 >>96746480 >>96746484
>threat assessment
Reddit concept
Anonymous No.96746420 >>96746466
Post Helga decks!
Anonymous No.96746435
https://edhrec.com/commanders/helga-skittish-seer
Anonymous No.96746457
>>96746418
Is it though?
Anonymous No.96746466
>>96746420
I got Helga in the 99 in my Doctor Who deck. Its pretty good
Anonymous No.96746480
>>96746418
then what is it called
Anonymous No.96746484
>>96746418
Actually being bad at the game is a reddit concept, so not understanding threat assessment is reddit
Anonymous No.96746492 >>96746628
>>96746402
Awesome, I appreciate the feedback. Strip Mine/Wasteland is so fun though haha, but I hear ya. I also run Tannuk and have been considering swapping him as well. I'd like to replace him with Bristly Bill/Scythe Cub, but those niggas are expensive. For Szarel, I kept in Rampaging Baloths to generate a lot of tokens in case I can't get my sac engine going early enough. Sometimes I hand the game over to Korvold and try to take out someone in one shot. It's hard to balance the +1/1 counters with land sac stuff, so I'm still trying different things out. A lot of games I use Hearthhull to win, but mainly it's through a million Moraug landfall combat triggers. thanks again.
Anonymous No.96746493
>>96746330
>cry me a ribbit
unironically laughed
Anonymous No.96746503 >>96746526 >>96746528 >>96746563 >>96746576
>Guy plays lands from graveyard + strip mine
>Make sure he dies
>"Why are you targeting me I'm not the threat!!"
Anonymous No.96746526
>>96746503
he was unironically right about not being the threat though
crucible-strip mine is good in 1v1 formats but it's pretty dogshit in edh unless you're playing azusa or something.
Anonymous No.96746528
>>96746503
>Guy plays lands from graveyard
>target them no matter what
too many legends let you do this shit these days and cheap instant non-basic exiling spells can't come fast enough
Anonymous No.96746540 >>96746558
How fun are legends-based decks? Serah Farron looks kinda cool but I'm wary of Selesnya decks since they're often boring. Guess Sisay or maybe Selvala would be better in the command zone, but the question stands. Are they any fun to pilot? I don't wanna end up with a goodstuff generic ball but I feel like a legends-focused deck would easily fall into that.
Anonymous No.96746558
>>96746540
make terra, here's your decklist
https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Alegend+t%3Acreature+ci%3Arbw+pow%3C%3D3&order=edhrec
Anonymous No.96746563
>>96746503
it would be honestly more scary if he just played a fetchland instead
Anonymous No.96746576 >>96746589
>>96746503
Is he destroying people's mana sources? Then yeah target him. Is he destroying people's tech lands that're setting up wins? Then it's pretty based senpai
Anonymous No.96746589 >>96746594 >>96746644
>>96746576
he destroyed my only black source
Anonymous No.96746594
>>96746589
lol sux2bu but also I would've reacted the same way
Anonymous No.96746597 >>96746647 >>96747434 >>96747435
I like making as many rectangles as possible
I like saccing my rectangles for value
I like effects that benefit me for creating rectangles
I have a stack of actual rectangles to use because dice just dont hit as hard
Anonymous No.96746600 >>96746658 >>96747128
>>96742654
Anonymous No.96746628
>>96746492
I like the concept of a back-up game plan, but can't decide on how to do it. Not sure if I should dedicate the cut card slots to this, or just ways to protect and enable my land-sac win a lot faster.
Anonymous No.96746644
>>96746589
And you didn't get to do the thing? Toxic behaviour.
Anonymous No.96746647 >>96746663
>>96746597
I like to tap my rectangles to bully people with Glare of Subdual.
Anonymous No.96746658
>>96746600
is there a mairsil deck that's actually good imo
Anonymous No.96746663 >>96746735 >>96746782
>>96746647
For me its this
Anonymous No.96746735
>>96746663
I wish I could run that but unfortunately I am a naya peasant. At least I get Vicious Shadows to make my rectangles valuable sacrifice fodder.
Anonymous No.96746782 >>96746800
>>96746663
I had a simic sissy get pissed off that the table conceded after he played this and had like 40 tokens on board cause he could just tap us down forever. Like bruh I aint playing out the cancer when you can just tap the whole board forever
Anonymous No.96746800 >>96746944
>>96746782
I tend to give it one, *maybe* two turn cycles to see if anyone can pull removal and then concede, but yes I also posted how I'm not playing out locked-down scenarios like this and everyone pounced on me like jackasses. I'm not gonna fucking play "draw, go" for the next 20 minutes, you win gg let's shuffle and play again
Anonymous No.96746874 >>96746882 >>96746885 >>96746893 >>96746895 >>96746923 >>96746986 >>96747454
How will you feel if someone brings a Dwight commander deck to your table?
Anonymous No.96746882
>>96746874
I wouldn't care at all because it's just a reskin of an already-existing card. They all are, so who the hell cares about them whatsoever?
Anonymous No.96746885
>>96746874
He cute
Anonymous No.96746893
>>96746874
I'd feel inquisitive. I would ask the person who brought it to the table what they like about it because I do not understand the appeal.
Anonymous No.96746895 >>96746906
>>96746874
>no green
>not a bears deck with beet themed lands
maximum soullessness
Anonymous No.96746906 >>96746916
>>96746895
You gotta run this one for Green
Anonymous No.96746916
>>96746906
i just don't get how you make a dwight release without bears, beets, and battlestar galactica inspired cards
what's leagues more embarrassing than universes beyond is how terribly executed the conversions are
Anonymous No.96746923
>>96746874
Probably wouldn't end up mattering anyway. The few times I've seen these reskins in play no one calls them by the reskin name. They just call them Jodah or whatever the reskin originally was.
Anonymous No.96746944 >>96746949 >>96746969
>>96746800
Everyone jumped on you because your idea of a "lock" could be broken by literally any creature or enchantment removal of any kind as well as only locking out creatures from sticking on the board, and scooping to that is the definition of soft.
Anonymous No.96746949 >>96746963
>>96746944
Anonymous No.96746963
>>96746949
>I don't care so much that I'm still whining about getting dunked on a week later
Fooling nobody, big guy
Anonymous No.96746969
>>96746944
the maha dude? the obvious response would be ">i always have it!!!". not everyone always has it, that's why it creates the lock in the first place
Anonymous No.96746986
>>96746874
song of the dryads
Anonymous No.96747055 >>96747083 >>96747100 >>96747112 >>96747272
Everyone is saying that Spiderman set is one of the worst sets in the history of MTG. Is this true?
Anonymous No.96747060 >>96747077
>>96741964
That is some truly terrible art.
Anonymous No.96747077 >>96747285
>>96747060
In this case being bad plays in its favor, as it's a reference to this meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0
Anonymous No.96747083 >>96747388
>>96747055
It's uninspired and mediocre, yes. It became very obvious, very quickly that it's just a shitty cash grab
Anonymous No.96747100 >>96747255 >>96747388
>>96747055
Doubt it's the worst but it's definitely disappointing for how weak and just uninteresting a lot of the cards were. There's a few standouts but it's only among the legendaries. Doctor Who and others like if at least had some interesting card designs. This Spider-Man set felt like starter decks stretched to fill out a whole set and a handful of actually decent cards to chase.
Anonymous No.96747112 >>96747388
>>96747055
Depends on your metric for worst, but in terms of flavour it's easily the worst and in terms of its shitty boring cards it's definitely one of the worst.
Anonymous No.96747116 >>96747522 >>96747725
the new manga promo is this dark ritual in english.
Anonymous No.96747128 >>96747139 >>96747154 >>96747170
>>96742654
>>96746600
This took way too fucking long
Anonymous No.96747139
>>96747128
Anonymous No.96747154 >>96747172
>>96747128
You could also, you know, just have Opalescence on board when you drop Out of Time.
Anonymous No.96747170 >>96747180
>>96747128
Damn that's fuckin brutal. Doesn't Out of Time leave when the Zur player gets defeated? And everyone gets their cards back? Seems like a real quick way to make the table gang up on you
Anonymous No.96747172 >>96747464
>>96747154
Yeah bro, lemme just pick up that $20 old-ass card that was printed literally 1 time
Anonymous No.96747180 >>96747191 >>96747270
>>96747170
I have no idea how phase out rules work when a player leaves, but if you do this they're going to gang up on you whether or not it gets their shit back
You pull this off for the memes and the fact it's like a $1 combo
Anonymous No.96747191 >>96747247
>>96747180
>You pull this off for the memes
The very best reason. Commander should be fun, fuck all the people optimizing the fun outta this game
Anonymous No.96747247
>>96747191
johnnies should be happy that they win with their rube goldberg machine combo every 1/10 games vs spike, i really don't see the issue here
Anonymous No.96747255 >>96747325
>>96747100
That's because it was supposed to be an Aftermath style set that got pivoted to a full set because people apparently hated that, so we got mediocrity in a stretched out form rather than one small ball.
Anonymous No.96747261
>>96740619 (OP)
>TQ: Has anyone ever won with a group hug deck? What is the wincon here? Why would you ever play it?

>give enemies resources
>fog whenever they come at me
>use removal to stop combos that ignore fog
>they all kill each other inevitably and then i kill who's left

group hug is incredibly solved it just involves having better threat analysis than your opponents (incredibly easy commander players dont understand FFA)
Anonymous No.96747270 >>96747301
>>96747180
They would phase back in. Same thing works for Oubliette.
Anonymous No.96747272 >>96747388
>>96747055
>Everyone is saying that Spiderman set is one of the worst sets in the history of MTG. Is this true?
Yes its true

> uninspired mechanics
> not MTG adjacent
> low power cards
Anonymous No.96747285 >>96747297
>>96747077
>more meme references on MTG cards
yay...
Anonymous No.96747297 >>96747308
>>96747285
>he doesn't like le epic meme cards
Do you hate fun, anon???
Anonymous No.96747301 >>96747307
>>96747270
Yes but Oubliette is on the field when you leave the game. Oubliette is continuously keeping something phased out while it's on the field, so once you leave it is gone and that thing can phase back in. Out of Time is not continuously keeping anything phased out. It phased all creatures and itself, it does not exist.

It may be that things phase back in, but it is not the same as Oubliette at all.
Anonymous No.96747307 >>96747314
>>96747301
phased out stuff is still on the field, it just doesn't exist
Anonymous No.96747308
>>96747297
Yes.
Anonymous No.96747314 >>96747326
>>96747307
I can tell that you're too dense to get the difference here, so I won't bother to try.
Anonymous No.96747317 >>96747339
>>96741790
gishath isnt a glass cannon commander if you're not retarded and just use him to refill board post-boardwipe rather than treating him as the only way to get dinos on board. why bother bumrushing to gishath if i can just build a board with quartzwood crashers? this is like people who try to turn ghalta into a voltron commander rather than just a pay-off for a big-stompy deck.
Anonymous No.96747325 >>96747331
>>96747255
It's such a weird choice they did that. I would have through for sure they'd have realized it would be better to do a micro set like Assassin's Creed or Aftermath than trying to force a full set like this and burn people over it.
Anonymous No.96747326 >>96747438
>>96747314
Anon it's literally the same thing ruleswise.
The thing is on the field causing an effect, and leaves the field (cancelling the effect) due to its owner dying.
Anonymous No.96747331 >>96747365
>>96747325
they figured out people hate the small Aftermath sets more than they hate bad Standard sets, I guess
Anonymous No.96747339 >>96747349 >>96747350
>>96747317
or maybe you just wait to have 2 more mana open and then cast gishath with heroic intervention backup
nothing screams mtg redditor more than coping and saying that gishath is actually this 8 mana recovery spell from a boardwipe lmao
Anonymous No.96747349
>>96747339
>redditor
there it is. the boogeyman
Anonymous No.96747350 >>96747360
>>96747339
>just dilute your deck with non-dinosaurs to make sure you always have enough to cast and protect gishath as soon as possible!
stop thinking about reddit start thinking about the game.
Anonymous No.96747355
>>96740730
Replace all counterspells you were considering with tutors, take your weapons, strike them down with all of your hatred! let your journey into the dark side be complete!!
Anonymous No.96747360 >>96747366 >>96747367
>>96747350
lands dilute gishath fool, you gotta put dino lands!
Anonymous No.96747365
>>96747331
I guess that makes sense. The Aftermath set must have really floundered for them to do so much to try and avoid making another so much that they'd rather just make a bad full set.
Anonymous No.96747366 >>96747369
>>96747360
necessary things aren't dinosaurs so i may as well run a protection tribal instead of a dinosaur tribal hurrr.
Anonymous No.96747367
>>96747360
>best (and only) dino land is UB
>UW reprint never ever
FUCK YOU JOTC
Anonymous No.96747369 >>96747415
>>96747366
>protection tribal
>not secret Voltron
Anonymous No.96747388 >>96747403 >>96747424 >>96747428 >>96747561
>>96747083
>>96747100
>>96747112
>>96747272
spiderman ip itself is bad, just rehashing the same plot points that were resolved decades ago, and now with multiverse shit
the correct thing to do was to release an avengers set, but alas
Anonymous No.96747403 >>96747413 >>96747437 >>96747484
>>96747388
None of that matters. It's mechanical short comings superseded all of that. If it was mechanically interesting it would have been fine. That's how it always is.
Anonymous No.96747413
>>96747403
>If it was mechanically interesting it would have been fine
and yet the rallying cry of anti-UB is that the setting does in fact matter
are you intellectually honest enough to say that as long as the mechanics are good you're ok with a barbie and ken UB? lmao
Anonymous No.96747415 >>96747432
>>96747369
why bother fixating on gishath when you can just throw double-strike on any random dinosaur for the same effect.
Anonymous No.96747424 >>96747442
>>96747388
that's coming next year and it'll be just as dogshit
Anonymous No.96747428
>>96747388
>the correct thing to do was to release an avengers set, but alas
God fuck that. The only thing sloppier than capeshit is all of capeshit all at once
Anonymous No.96747431 >>96747469
my lgs is so UB poisoned it makes me sick, it's not just people who don't care who want the card text. these people never stop talking about the upcoming secret lair, UB set, blah blah. they shell out big bucks for this stupid shit. they want to play nothing but their spongebob or sonic deck. it's maddening.
Anonymous No.96747432
>>96747415
because double strike on Gishath gets you two Gishath triggers
Anonymous No.96747434
>>96746597
You're alright. That is probably one of my favorite parts of magic.
Anonymous No.96747435 >>96747451 >>96747535
>>96746597
I have like 30 warrior tokens for my Zurgo Mobilize deck just in case.
Anonymous No.96747437 >>96747460
>>96747403
>if it was entirely different it would have been fine
>if it was good it would have been fine
advanced mouthbreathometry
Anonymous No.96747438 >>96747678 >>96747697
>>96747326
>Anon it's literally the same thing ruleswise.
It isn't though. Oubliette is applying an effect, that affect ends when you leave. Out of Time APPLIED an effect.
It would be like if for some god-foresaken reason WotC printed a sorcery that said "phase out target permanent indefinitely, it does not phase back in"
Anonymous No.96747442 >>96747455
>>96747424
avengers set will sell well enough to at the very least not be a total embarrassment, cope more uwfag
Anonymous No.96747451
>>96747435
I love that part of playing token spam. The only thing I don't like is how there's only one art of that specific warrior so far. It's fun having a variety of them like with zombies or humans.
Anonymous No.96747454
>>96746874
Anonymous No.96747455
>>96747442
we're still gonna have to endure many more months of pig slop posting because of it tho. they seem to think the posting is turning people off of UB rather than the sets sucking shit
Anonymous No.96747460
>>96747437
Yes? What part are you not getting? I'm saying the coat of paint doesn't matter it's what is under the hood that does and that set had mostly mediocrity there. If it was mechanically interesting that would have overruled the majority of concern over Spider-Man or Batman or however the fuck.
Anonymous No.96747464 >>96747473
>>96747172
>let me acquire something cool and old and interesting for a mere pittance of money to have extreme redundancy in my strat
Yes.
Anonymous No.96747469
>>96747431
your lgs should really come to terms with using brackets then, because UB cards very rarely are bracket 3 playable
Anonymous No.96747473 >>96747488 >>96747491 >>96747550
>>96747464
>a mere pittance of money
This retard spends $20 on a piece of cardboard!
Anonymous No.96747484
>>96747403
>If it was mechanically interesting it would have been fine. That's how it always is.
How many times are you going to say this despite being told it isn't true?
>>96742785
>>96743614
>>96744521
Anonymous No.96747488
>>96747473
imagine wasting ink on proxies when scribbles will do
Anonymous No.96747491 >>96747500 >>96747506
>>96747473
>this dude thinks 20 dollars is a lot of money
Dude, do you just not like your hobby? How can you take 20 dollars and act like it's a high price to pay?
Anonymous No.96747500
>>96747491
proliferating the idea of mtg as "game pieces" was a terrible mistake
Anonymous No.96747506 >>96747531 >>96747550 >>96747555 >>96747735
>>96747491
If you think spending $20 on a piece of cardboard is justifiable, you are beyond help
>b-b-but it muh hobbyyyyy!!!!!
Okay, all cards have a base price of $100, you'll pay that right? Cos it's your hobby? Oh? What's that? You actually WON'T pay $100 a card because that is absurd?
Great, so we've established that actually it being your hobby doesn't justify an arbitrary amount of expenditure, the only difference is you're a retard and your threshold for being ripped off for a piece of cardboard is much higher and you wear that as a badge of pride
Anonymous No.96747522 >>96747662
>>96747116
But this has multiple English printings
Anonymous No.96747531 >>96747589
>>96747506
>you wear that as a badge of pride
More like a status symbol for nerds, like buying authentic prada bags for women
Sorry that you cant accept mtg being a luxury hobby but nothing will spare a proxyfag like you from the all judging side eye
Anonymous No.96747535 >>96748330
>>96747435
Based Zur-god enjoyer.
Anonymous No.96747550 >>96747589
>>96747506
>>96747473
Spending money on your hobby which you enjoy is acceptable and no amount of bluster or seethe will negate this simple reality
Anonymous No.96747555 >>96747589
>>96747506
Oh... you're special needs. I think that indulging yourself once in a while in a more expensive card for the hobby you claim to like is not only not bad, but it can be good. Why not, if you can afford it? I grabbed a copy of Survival of the Fittest recently because I got a decent bonus and decided I earned something nice for myself. I don't think you need to spend $200 on every card, but there's nothing wrong with it once in a while. Keep your schizo ramblings to yourself in the future.
Anonymous No.96747561 >>96747567
>>96747388
no nigger all capeshit sucks
behead spandex faggots and their brainrotted fans
Anonymous No.96747567 >>96748089
>>96747561
But enough about FF and its massive success
Anonymous No.96747589 >>96747599 >>96747661 >>96747762 >>96747791 >>96748015
>>96747531
>Sorry that you cant accept mtg being a luxury hobby
Oh hi Mark

>>96747550
Why is it you autists always resort to perceived social norms when called out on your behavior? I used to notice this shit all the time when saying people shouldn't eat during D&D sessions
>b-b-but muh social eating! I'm not a fatass I'm just adhering to social conventions!!!!
Exactly the same shit.
>b-b-but it is socially acceptable to spend money on a hobby!
Ask a normal person how acceptable it is to drop $20 on a piece of "authentic" cardboard

>>96747555
>I think that indulging yourself once in a while in a more expensive card for the hobby you claim to like is not only not bad, but it can be good.
There's that badge of pride I mentioned.
>Why not, if you can afford it?
If you could afford to spend $50 a roll on store-brand toilet paper, would you? Knowing that it cost maybe a couple cents to make. Being able to afford something doesn't make you less of a retard for buying it. Billionaires can "afford" luxury vehicles knowing that they depreciate in value literally the moment they're off the lot, they are fucking stupid for doing so and the fact they have money to waste doesn't make the purchase more reasonable
Anonymous No.96747599 >>96747615
>>96747589
Oh I see you didn't read my entire post. Keep your schizo ramblings to yourself. I'm sorry that people buying the occasional cool card upsets you or whatever.
Anonymous No.96747609
I for one, like playing MTG
Anonymous No.96747613 >>96747684
>enter spelltable room
>hear crying baby in the background louder than anything else
>guy arguing that his deck is totally low power he just added 2 infinite combos in to it
never left a game so fast in my life
Anonymous No.96747615 >>96747652
>>96747599
Concession accepted, retard
Anonymous No.96747652 >>96747722
>>96747615
>imagine being so poor that a wagie like me can spend $300 on a bracket 2 deck that wins and still be financially stable
Christ forget UB sloppers, the poorfags invading the space is the real problem here
Anonymous No.96747661 >>96747722
>>96747589
Card games are either gambling or pay to not be called a poorfag, cope and seethe
Anonymous No.96747662
>>96747522
urza's saga with the old frame, duel decks is the closest, then there's a list version of the duel deck printing. either way, this has the shooting star promo set symbol.
Anonymous No.96747678 >>96747697
>>96747438
No, they're both triggered abilities that create a one-shot effect to phase the creature out and another one-shot effect to phase the creature back in when they leave the battlefield.
Their effect applying depends on them being on the battlefield, and a phased-out Out of Time still is on the battlefield.
Anonymous No.96747684 >>96747848
>>96747613
this shit sucks bro
Anonymous No.96747697
>>96747438
>>96747678
To clarify, neither effect is continuous, they do one thing when they come in and one thing when they leave.
Anonymous No.96747722 >>96747743
>>96747652
>>imagine being so poor
>>96747661
>poorfag
Would you spend $50 on a roll of store-brand toilet paper, yes or no?
Anonymous No.96747725
>>96747116
I already have that one though. Why would I want it in english?
Anonymous No.96747735
>>96747506
So many retards in the thread today wow
Anonymous No.96747736 >>96747758
Proxy that shit. Proxy everything. Become rich. Continue to proxy while enjoying playing with ""fake"" paper game pieces. They can't stop you unless it's a tournament and even then they never check because this is EDH.
Anonymous No.96747743 >>96747792
>>96747722
does the store brand toilet paper serve a purpose in a game i enjoy playing? yes or no.
Anonymous No.96747758 >>96747772
>>96747736
If you play proxies at my pod I will give you one chance to remove them. If you don't I will rip your proxies in half, and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
Anonymous No.96747762 >>96747811 >>96747824
>>96747589
What are you saving the money for if not for pleasure, anon? That's what "being able to afford it" means, disposable income, money you haven't earmarked for investing or the necessities of life.
Is buying luxuries you can't afford for niggers and other retards? Yes.
Is insisting that everyone spend as much money on their luxuries as you did retarded? Yes.
Anonymous No.96747772
>>96747758
in response I tap WURBG and activate Urza's Gun
Anonymous No.96747791
>>96747589
>Ask a normal person how acceptable it is to drop $20 on a piece of "authentic" cardboard
I did. They responded with "I spent $20 on beer Saturday so who am I to judge"
Anonymous No.96747792
>>96747743
The store-brand toilet paper serves the purpose of making your butthole marginally cleaner than immediately after you shit. The extent to which you enjoy it is up to you.
Fundamentally you know it cost perhaps not even an entire cent to make, are you willing to spend $50 on it just because you can afford to?
Anonymous No.96747811 >>96747822 >>96747851
>>96747762
>hat's what "being able to afford it" means, disposable income, money you haven't earmarked for investing or the necessities of life.
Okay, great, so any price is justifiable then.
Do you see the problem here? If you excuse an objectively foolish purchase on the basis that you could afford to make it, then there is no reason that the price of everything shouldn't be as high as you can afford it to be.
Lets say you could still comfortably afford to play Magic if the price of a bulk common was $20, would you pay those prices? If yes you are worse than cattle. You are the most unintelligent subhuman creature imaginable. You have no concept of value or of what is sensible, you will be taken advantage of and justify it to yourself as being within the scope of what you could afford.
Anonymous No.96747813 >>96747869
I don't get the toilet paper analogy considering the card doesn't get flushed down the toilet and/or disappear after one use. Was toilet paper chosen simply because it's paper?
Anonymous No.96747822 >>96747839 >>96747890
>>96747811
>then there is no reason that the price of everything shouldn't be as high as you can afford it to be.
congrats you discovered supply and demand
Anonymous No.96747824
>>96747762
The more you spout your nonsense the more i'm convinced that you're a financially illiterate lefty, not that most mtg players arent ofc
People can pay premium of anything as long as its within their price range - you laugh at $100 burgers but wealthy actors have eaten at salt bae restos without breaking a sweat, are they "foolish"? Or just rich enough to burn money?
it's all about finding the price ceiling for middle to high income white americans and $20 is not the impossible ceiling you think it is, even third worlder mtg players can afford that lmao
Anonymous No.96747829 >>96747843
I hate trying to deckbuild anything with Green and finding out that some of their best cards are shit that was printed once 20 years ago and never again and it goes for $70
Anonymous No.96747839 >>96747842
>>96747822
The demand of poorfags to be validated is so high yet the supply of not being ridiculed is so low kekw
Anonymous No.96747842
>>96747839
this is why validation for poorfags comes at such a great cost
as with all things, the graph wins
Anonymous No.96747843
>>96747829
Find a better place to buy proxies. $70 is way too much for 1 card.
Anonymous No.96747848
>>96747684
Forgiving not knowing how to change the aspect ratio is kind, but fucking screen monkeys are an easy leave in any lobby. Would you rather waster a possible 2 hours with his subhuman, or spend another 20 mins finding a suitable game?
Anonymous No.96747851
>>96747811
>then there is no reason that the price of everything shouldn't be as high as you can afford it to be
keep going you're real close to recreating marginalism from first principles
Anonymous No.96747869 >>96747874
>>96747813
its the anti-UB schizo anon who has hyperfixated on proxying now, presumably because he has realized he can proxy non-UB versions of UB cards. to answer your question: not much thought has gone into this at all its just kneejerk emotional reactions
Anonymous No.96747874 >>96747875 >>96747878 >>96747900 >>96747909
>>96747869
Do you call those guys "the one schizo" with any sort of proof that it is one guy?
Anonymous No.96747875
>>96747874
if it looks like a duck
Anonymous No.96747878 >>96747968
>>96747874
its mostly recognition of his (their?) typing style, and lets be honest: do you really want to live in the version of reality where more than one of these guys are hanging around edhg?
Anonymous No.96747890 >>96747927
>>96747822
That is not, in fact, supply and demand.
Especially not when you consider the artificial scarcity of card rarity.

Nothing is preventing you from proxying 2000 copies of Edgar Markov right now, and the effect on your games would be the same
Anonymous No.96747900 >>96747916 >>96747933 >>96748246
>>96747874
No it's a rhetorical tactic to dismiss people you don't agree with. Instead of having to justify your own opinions or explain why someone else is wrong you can just accuse them of being "the schizo".
You immediately put them in the out-group, in the smallest minority of 1, and divert the conversation to justifying their identity rather than the quality of what is said.

You'll notice on this site people have developed a lot of devious ways to deal with posts they don't like.
Leftoids will accuse you of being /pol/ and demand you prove things that are blatantly obvious like WotC being a leftist company that makes leftist policy decisions
There's one anon who accuses people he disagrees with of being a humiliation fetishist who gets off on making flawed arguments

People are fucking weird. This place does things to you.
Anonymous No.96747909
>>96747874
You can tell it's him because he'll either call you a leftist for disagreeing with him or subhuman/insect it's always those three insults
Anonymous No.96747916
>>96747900
you're the only one who uses certain insults, schizo anon.
Anonymous No.96747921 >>96747932 >>96747934 >>96747965
>building new deck
>the plan is coming together
>go to sleeve cards
>count them
>106
FUUUUUCK I ALREADY CUT TWICE I DON'T WANT TO CUT AGAIN Should I keep asshole GC stuff like Rhystic Study and Smothering Tithe in? It's not core to the wincon of the deck, but I figure being a douche with that stuff never hurts to speed me along to the wincon.
Anonymous No.96747927
>>96747890
It is exactly supply and demand.
Goods are priced according to the demand of them against their supply. Meaning that goods are already by definition as expensive as people can afford. The scarcity being natural or artificial is totally irrelevant, except inasmuch as WOTC has to figure out precisely how much supply to create in order to maximise their profit and minimise costs.
Point is, that there is not really any such thing as being smart with your money when it comes to luxury goods, because you're already spending the money on pleasure either way. The only "sensible" thing involved is not buying luxuries aren't as good as you were expecting them to be.

To be clear I like proxies, this is a totally different discussion to that.
Anonymous No.96747932 >>96747952
>>96747921
>Should I keep asshole GC stuff like Rhystic Study and Smothering Tithe in? It's not core to the wincon of the deck, but I figure being a douche with that stuff never hurts to speed me along to the wincon.
Depends entirely on your pod's powerlevel, anon.
Anonymous No.96747933 >>96747947 >>96748117 >>96748162
>>96747900
>leftist company
Anonymous No.96747934 >>96747952
>>96747921
You vill cut ze pet cards which ze deck was made to house, und you vill like it
if you dont need the mana and also don't benefit from slowing the game down, smothering tithe is a pretty easy cut
Anonymous No.96747947
>>96747933
>renton washington
Anonymous No.96747952 >>96747960 >>96747966
>>96747932
>>96747934
It's a Slivers deck. I don't NEED the draw/mana, but it's basically adding fuel to the fire.
Anonymous No.96747960 >>96748069
>>96747952
>slivers with rhystic and smothering
what is wrong with you nigga
Anonymous No.96747965
>>96747921
If you don't need them, cut them. I find the heat they draw isn't really worth it and you never really need them.
Anonymous No.96747966 >>96748069
>>96747952
Anonymous No.96747968 >>96747989
>>96747878
UB fucking sucks, so seeing this discourse is pretty good yeah. I also get to laugh at the retard who presumed every commander player, even the ones who don't like UB are running The One Ring because it's too good not to.
Anonymous No.96747989 >>96748029
>>96747968
Most high powered tables are running at least one TOR, as it's extremely good and can fit in most decks
Anonymous No.96748015 >>96748034
>>96747589
>I used to notice this shit all the time when saying people shouldn't eat during D&D sessions

Wow color me surprised that the schizo who hates MTG amd proxies everything also disapproves of eating at the D&D table.

No games confirmed
I bet he had a melty the last time someone one table over cracked open a diet pepsi
Anonymous No.96748029 >>96748338
>>96747989
While that is a true statement, a game of edh is more than the one in "at least one"
Anonymous No.96748034
>>96748015
That's normal, pepsi sux
Anonymous No.96748044 >>96748489
The schizo who keeps spamming "im a pig and i eat slop" and having daily UB melties is the same one who has been spamming "you are objectively bad at the game" at people for years btw, filtering these phrases has improved my thread viewing experience tremendously, id highly recommend it.
Anonymous No.96748069
>>96747960
>>96747966
>he doesn't slap the goodstuff pile of every GC tutor, rhystic, tithe, etc in his decks no matter what
Anonymous No.96748089 >>96748147
>>96747567
> capeshit
> final fantasy
Ummmm
Anonymous No.96748117 >>96748137 >>96748224
>>96747933
Anonymous No.96748137 >>96748156 >>96748162 >>96748239 >>96748246
>>96748117
He's not wrong, and it's amusing how incredibly mad all the chuds get over this.
Anonymous No.96748147 >>96748155
>>96748089
Capeshit is just american shonen, cope
Anonymous No.96748155
>>96748147
jesus how have I never thought of this? it's the perfect gd comparison
Anonymous No.96748156
>>96748137
And yet blacks still play yugioh
Anonymous No.96748162 >>96748177 >>96748196
>>96748137
>>96747933
Anonymous No.96748177 >>96748201
>>96748162
>Random Twitter post
Anonymous No.96748196 >>96748201
>>96748162
>more chud bullshit
Rent free.
Anonymous No.96748201
>>96748177
>>96748196
(You) lost btw
Anonymous No.96748205
I'm black and love UB btw
Anonymous No.96748224
>>96748117
I just think the phrase "leftist company" is hilarious
Anonymous No.96748239
>>96748137
The statement that fantasy as a genre was used to reflect the worldview of those in power is perhaps the most deranged thing I've ever heard
Literally all the most iconic fantasy stories have been about underdog heroes receiving the call to adventure and toppling a tyrannical regime
Anonymous No.96748242
>>96748240
>>96748240
>>96748240
>>96748240
>>96748240
Anonymous No.96748246 >>96748647
8>>96747900
>Leftoids will accuse you of being /pol/ and demand you prove things that are blatantly obvious like WotC being a leftist company that makes leftist policy decisions
Oo! Oo! There he is! Das da guy:
>>96748137
>He's not wrong, and it's amusing how incredibly mad all the chuds get over this.
Anonymous No.96748330
>>96747535
>UB slop tainting Z-money
you are not based and NOT my nigga
Anonymous No.96748338
>>96748029
I'm just saying that you're not going to escape UB by going to higher powered tables
Anonymous No.96748489
>>96748044
That isnt true because I tell people that all the time and I've never posted about swine
Anonymous No.96748647
>>96748246
Just overpay for atrocious globohomo bullshit bro
Anonymous No.96749729
>>96746112
>>96746144
Not even the best Nekusar version. Iron Gayden sucks lol, why would you even want to support such a cringe metal band and Jew Dick-in-son? Can't believe this shit sold out. I would rather have gotten the Furby lair