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>>96748030
>Thread Question
How many sizeable armies do you own?
I own 4

god i hate elves

>>96750737
That's missing the point. It being a shithole is downstream of self-perpetuating storms of evil psychic energy being able to influence realspace to make it more evil.

>>96750728 (OP)
>TQ
4 armies

>>96750728 (OP)
For 40K? I barely own 1.
For other gw games? I own 2 and a half.

>>96750747
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
I hope everyone had a productive weekend.

>>96750742
no, it's very much the imperium, the only reason chaos is on the rise is the imperium

ULTRAMARINES!

Today I will remind them

>>96750758
Man that art piece goes hard as fuck

>>96750752
Maybe we'll have models posted this thread

>>96750728 (OP)
I wonder how they'll end up looking.

>>96750759
>He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods
What a pity that and most of this got retconned by GW

>TW
3, Admech, Black Templars and Sisters of Battle.
I also have 1 big knight and 3 knightlets

Still the best.

>>96750689
Blaming Necrons for the Hell like state of the Galaxy right now is absolutely retarded. They weren't a psychic race. Blame should fall upon Old Ones and Eldar who made the Warp a Hellscape and bleed into reality. Necrons tried to stitch it up but Old Ones and Eldar were pulling more and more and more power from the warp which made stitching it up impossible.

Only thing wrong Necrons did was start the war in the first place but then they left the galaxy after they've won to let it recover for 60 million years and Eldar ruined it further for fucking 60 million years.

Blame the elves. Always blame the fucking elves.

>>96750766
They're not getting made

>>96750772
An imitation.

So basically the 40k universe is a world where humanity is so dominant that there’s nobody left that can give us a reasonable challenge so we just go around punching down against robots, cultists, and aliens.

>>96750728 (OP)
>TQ
0, I have 2 but neither is 2k at this point

>>96750772
Kantor my beloved

>>96750772
>le latinx representation
They are both boring and cringe generic marines, brought down by their political pandering theme, which is all they have. Nothing redeemable or cool about this chapter

>>96750786
No, not at all
Humanity is barely surviving as is.

>>96750785
That traitor is wearing twin power fists that he stole from a Chaos Space Marine, btw.

>>96750786
No you've got it utterly backwards. Humanity is at war with every other xenos species in the galaxy, half of whom have far better tech or greater numbers or both while also being at war with itself as a species. Not just aganist chaos but loyalist in the imperium fighting other loyalists over dogma, dick measuring competitions over which institution gets to control what part of the empire or to keep certain groups excistence a secret. Its in total war and losing at every side

>>96750799
Don't worry they will be deported soon enough.

>>96750786
>missing the point this badly

>>96750786
Humans are sort of a Mary Sue race, yes. The average human might be inferior to the average Eldar or Necron, but humans are capable of matching anyone and exceeding them. The Eldar are a psyker race, but the Emperor was the grandaddy of all psykers. Human scientists like Cawl and Bile can match Necron or Eldar genius tit for tat. I like seeing humans portrayed from other points of view because then you can get a sense of how scary they really are despite the Imperium's decay. In the Twice Dead King they are presented like Orks from The War of the Beast-there are endless numbers of them and they aren't stupid even if their technology is worse, and there is nothing you can really do to get rid of them.

>>96750786
Not at all, the imperium of man is just like the tau empire here, just on a larger scale

>>96750768
Can’t have anything being as powerful as or more powerful than the Emperor. I was half expecting them to say someone else was on the Golden Throne in the End & the Death

>>96750802
>Barely surviving
>Has a million worlds
>Just received millions of Space Marines as reinforcements
>Is reviving all of their primarchs
>Utterly stomps every xeno and cultist they come across

>>96750819
the emperor is only unreasonably powerful in fanfictions

>>96750802
>Humanity is barely surviving as is.
This has always been horseshit. Humanity curbstomps everything they come across, and only nameless planets and sectors that only exist to hype up the next jobber face any sort of hardship and even then those get reclaimed in short order

>>96750802
Not at all, the Imperium has basically been winning on all fronts since 8th editions.

>>96750819
The Emperor being the most powerful god in the setting but having his psyche fractured by endless torture/worship altering his nature and therefore unable to act except in somewhat random and inhuman ways is pretty cool in my honest opinion

>>96750822
He's pretty OP honestly. In TEATD he was ascending into the grandaddy of all chaos gods that would have destroyed the universe, and even before that he was like the one guy that chaos was truly afraid of. He's the single most powerful being in 40k

>>96750813
>Human scientists like Cawl and Bile can match Necron or Eldar genius tit for tat.
This is a lorelet take. Like a complete lorelet take. Cawl couldn't even comprehend the lesser and more meaningless technological things Trazyn did during the Fall of Cadia and was shocked at Trazyn's knowledge and Trazyn is not even a proper scientist like Szeras.

>>96750810
Orks are too stupid and divided to be a threat, Necrons are too old and senile to be a threat, Tau are too wimpy and small to be a threat, Eldar are too feminine and cowardly to be a threat, Tyranids have yet to take a single major Imperium world, and the only parts of Chaos that are remotely threatening are the ones that are just future primarch redemption bait.

>>96750821
>>Has a million worlds
descending, half cut off
>>Just received millions of Space Marines as reinforcements
way less than one million, and dying fast
>>Is reviving all of their primarchs
1, revived by an eldar, the second woke up and did nothing, no signs of a third
>>Utterly stomps every xeno and cultist they come across
leviathan just pushed into segmentum solar

>>96750786
Xenosfags miss the scale of things to dickride their faction, but broadly speaking humanity would be unthreatened by any one of the xenos factions. It's just a lot going on at once plus the ever-present threat of chaos.

>>96750738
I think hating any faction unironically is pretty cringe
IDK how you young people have enough energy to be so spite-driven

>>96750821
>>96750826
>>96750830

>>96750834
Cawl captured a necron cryptek and bested her in a bunch of intellectual games to troll her, before proceeding to work out how some necron tech like pylons works. Bile was so talented he was invented to study with the Haemonculi, covens.

Cawl doesn't have necron tech, what I mean is he is smart enough to work with tech on that level. He is better at reverse engineering it than most necrons

>>96750840
> leviathan just pushed into segmentum solar
So that they can get stomped again

When was the last time the Imperium ever actually lost a battle of any significance?

>>96750832
>He's the single most powerful being in 40k
only in fanfictions

>>96750858
Okay, who in the other factions can machine him in power?

you'd think that fish wouldn't catch on the same bait day after day, week after week, month after month but here we are

>>96750799
He's not latino

>>96750856
>The imperium isn't dead due to literal plot armour so the setting can continue and thus sell minis from that setting
>This means they are winning
lmao

>>96750866
Don't reply to low-effort baitposts, anon.

>>96750856
cadia? the cordon around octarius? leviathan just pushing into segmentum solar?

when was the last time the imperium did any lasting damage to another faction?

>>96750858
No I think that's more or less the message from lore for a long time. It fits with the logic of the setting too, he has been worshipped by quadrillions of people for thousands of years and his baseline was the single most powerful psyker who ever lived. He beat up a ctan shard with a spear in the middle ages. The grimdark element of this is that he's quite insane at this point and purged a lot of his positive emotions in the form of the Star Child so he could fight Horus without them

>96750752
>coalpost simping for a coalburner
It's like pottery, it rhymes

>>96750835
Haven’t the Nids destroyed one of the greatest forgeworlds in Gyphonne IV? I’d say that counts as a major imperial world.

>>96750871
The Imperium permanently kills necrons, orks, and eldar all the time. Those factions also have plot armor in the sense that they cannot be allowed to fall because they're wargame factions with models.

Tyranids are a wild card because it's impossible to know how many they really are. It isn't clear if a destroyed hive fleet is actually a huge loss or not and probably will never be answered for the same reason.

>>96750867
Cawl just pulled out a million space marines from his ass and updated the military with shiny new tech that is superior to anything the Tau have

Guilliman single handedly fixed the Imperium’s bureaucracy and has put competent people in charge after taking care of a coup attempt

The Lion is back and we know Corvax is alive too, and if current trends continue we’ll see Vulcan and Leman Russ and Jaghatai Khan return and lead the Imperium into a golden age of prosperity

How is this not the best time for the Imperium?

>>96750872
>he has been worshipped by quadrillions of people for thousands of years
and most of that is actually spent staying alive and powering the astronomican, it's not free

>and his baseline was the single most powerful psyker who ever lived
*human

>He beat up a ctan shard with a spear in the middle ages.
that's the flanderisation of a meme, what actually happened, and especially how it happened, is still a huge mystery

>>96750889
I know you're trolling, you'd be a great in universe propogandist.
>reddit spacing

>>96750853
Cawl doesn't doesn't even know 10% of how necron tech works and is amazed constantly.
The Cryptek is a highly restrained and limited prisoner. He can maybe figure out basic things but not their actual advanced tech. If he could humanity would advance by leaps and bounds and not put scrap together like Orks (I'm looking at you new White Scar bike made from an outrider).
As for Bile, being invited out of curiosity by a coven means nothing and we don't even have any new inventions by Bile in the 40k universe since he returned. Best he did are some abhumans weaker than marines.

Just finished painting the Death Guard combat patrol, what are some good units to get after? I’m aiming to play some 1K games

The Blight Hauler looks really good, being only 20 bucks for a 100 points. Any other good units? Nurglings, Poxwalkers, etc?

>>96750901
>Uh, I'm a dumb nigger who had all his points refuted so I'll just call you reddit

>>96750889
>shiny new tech that is superior to anything the Tau have
It's really not.

>>96750889
>a million space marines
way less than that
>updated the military
only the marines'
>with shiny new tech that is superior to anything the Tau have
not even close
>Guilliman single handedly fixed the Imperium’s bureaucracy
NOT EVEN CLOSE

>>96750880
Destroyed them so well that all the important people are alive on another forge world and are still building everything the Imperium needs.

>>96750893
He was more powerful than any eldar psyker too anon. It's true that collectively old eldar psykers could have defeated him, but he was known to Eldar farseers like Eldrad. It also is not true at all that all of his power is spent powering the astronomicon. He could do that when he was a human perpetual psyker.

He's spending a lot of power holding back chaos from the breach in the webway project created by Magnus, basically holding off all 4 chaos gods at the same time. There was a lore example of how an Eldar Harlequin being on Terra and flipping the fuck out when she saw what the emperor is


>The hall on the far side of the portal was of lifeless stone, part-panelled in wood killed a thousand light years away and brought in slow-drying agony across the stars. This world was as dead as its ruler. The stink of humanity lay thick upon it, the statues near the ceiling coated in dust, the shed skin cells of people five hundred cycles gone. The psychic effect was a hideous weight, thousands of years of human suffering pressing in on Lhaerial’s sensitive mind, and that was the least of it. Crushing the sensation of the dead of the Earth was the titanic presence of the Corpse Emperor.

>Such power made Lhaerial’s mind reel, and for a moment her contempt for the creatures of Terra wavered. The mind of the Emperor was a mountain in the surging madness of the Othersea, blinding in its brilliance. The Great Powers circled this place like razorshark waiting out the death throes of a void-whale. That terrible presence held them back, and all His little servants were ignorant of it! Unease gripped her, that she would be noticed by the Dark Gods or their defier, and the fragile flame of her being snuffed out.

>>96750911
nta but you really should fuck off to reddit and shitpost there

>>96750916
>only the nearly unstoppable super soldiers that already jobbed everything the setting but other super soldiers

>>96750914
It’s DAOT hovercraft tech and new plasma weapons that retain the power of normal plasma weapons but without dangers of exploding, Cawl basically exists to shit all over the other factions and show them how the Imperium is the most advanced faction in the setting

Why are people even replying to the imperiumfag shitposter? You know he's trolling you.

>>96750932
>It’s DAOT hovercraft tech
No. It's a slapped together outrider with gravity tech for repulsors etc. You can literally see the chasis you retard.

>>96750922
I mean it's true.

>>96750911
>Cawl just pulled out a million space marines from his ass
Nearly 10 years ago, GW is retconning the differece between them and firstborn and just making firstborn be taller
>updated the military
Literally everyone else is using the same old shit, guard, sisters admech are still the same
>superior to anything the Tau have
Hahaha
>Guilliman single handedly fixed the Imperium’s bureaucracy
Lmao its not 'fixed',GW made an animated video of ammo being collected causing a deafeat aganist orks only for the ammo to be delivered to a world full of ammo that has no room for it and so incinerate it.
>we know Corvax is alive too
Do we?
> and if current trends continue we’ll see Vulcan and Leman Russ and Jaghatai Khan return and lead the Imperium into a golden age of prosperity
They might not come back and if they do there will not be a golden age of prosperity, they were almost prosperous durng the great crusade and its been downhill since

>>96750932
>It’s DAOT hovercraft tech
It's a basic bitch grav bike. Not even a proper jetbike.

>>96750924
>He was more powerful than any eldar psyker too anon
that's your fanfiction, we have little to no idea of all the eldar that ever existed

>>96750958
It’s better than a jetbike

>>96750922
Funny how vtumor threads always end up being shit

i wonder if samael is seething that his secret collection of jetbikes is now irrelevant

>>96750933
There are no doubt lurkers who need education on why Imperium fags are wrong.

>>96750728 (OP)
>this much money for 65 points worth of models
justify this

>>96750964
>Dude trust me, Eldrad totally isn't the most powerful eldar psyker around, there's totally some unnamed eldar out there way more powerful than the emperor, he's just out there, waitin'

>>96750997
Anon, your claim was that the emperor is the strongest psyker that ever existed, not just the current strongest, do you understand that there have been over 60 millions years of galactic history with extremely psychic races before mankind?

>>96750973
Jetbikes are superior to Gravbikes. First ones fly, grav bikes hover menacingly.

>>96750994
They made Warriors shit compared to what they used to be so their points had to go down.

>>96750994
>buying directly from gw

>>96751011
Eldar souls reincarnated prior to the Fall of the Eldar. If there were a much more powerful psyker then he would also reincarnate. The emperor is a freakish anomaly.

I've always thought he had to be some sort of weapon created by the Old Ones or insert faction here. This is hinted at by a necron somewhere but I can't recall where

>>96750810
The Imperium can afford to send 300 space marines to fight over some periphery desert mining world with a population of 12 million people of no importance to the Imperium. 300 space marines, out of only 3 million, sent to some no name shithole to fight some enemy nobody’s ever heard of.

How exactly is the Imperium losing if they can afford to waste such valuable assets in such minor battles?

New unit for CSM in the upcoming campaign will be a new Drop Pod with claws.

>>96751021
The Emperor isn't a person or an individual but a super fucked up hivemind communicating with the broken and fractured other parts of its hivemind which are also smaller hiveminds born from the idea of the God Emperor from the state religion. The man this idea was based on is a corpse in a jar

>>96750938
I have. There's the infamous "tyranids are an antisemitic dogwhistle" post on xitter for an extreme example

>literally so busy I dont have time to work on models during the week
>can only paint on weekends
Life is suffering bros

Post models/wips
I have brains and demoman on the go now

>>96751041
Life do be like that sumtimes

>>96751037
Bile brings this up in his conversation with him and Cawl says that he did what Guilliman requested

>>96751021
>Eldar souls reincarnated prior to the Fall of the Eldar
correct
>If there were a much more powerful psyker then he would also reincarnate.
incorrect
souls also can stop existing, or split into smaller souls, or join a divine entity, or be involved in a number of other unknown events or processes.

humanity is noted as another misbegotten weapon of the old ones by the ctan trapped underneath the pharos of sotha in the novel great work

the emperor IS anomalous, anomalous for a human, and anomalous in his current state, but nothing other than fanfiction points to him being the bestest thing that ever was period

I'm reading the 10e Greyknights Codex and damn it's pretty dire for them
>2 of their 8 Grandmasters are dead or missing I'm action, 1 got confirmed merked by Angron
>Most of the 8 brotherhoods are suffering sever man power issues
>One is at a third of it's strength
>The Silver Blades which is where recruits are first sent to are losing more Grey Knights than they can recruit
Of all the factions they're probably the worst off right now. They ain't taking on the Custodes anytime soon

>>96751037
Poor choice of characters, guilliman was the one who asked him to make bigger space marines.

>Thrashes Necrons
>Thrashes Eldar
>Thrashes Tyrannids
>Thrashes Chaos

The only thing above humanity in any setting will always be dragons.

>>96751071
neat, can you post scans or pics of the lore stuff

>>96751071
They're setting them up to be PRIMARISED next edition.

>>96751063
>souls also can stop existing, or split into smaller souls, or join a divine entity, or be involved in a number of other unknown events or processes.

Literally false and wrong. All eldar reincarinated prior to the fall and their souls did not dissipate. You shouldn't be calling anyone else a lorelet moron

>>96751079
Nah, dragons only exist to get killed by humans

>>96751075
>>Thrashes Necrons
>anon doesn't know
kek

>>96751084
or unironically squatted

>>96751075
>literally had to get bailed out to not get raped by SK

>>96751092
>>96751102
You do realize he had the Necrons pissing themselves when they realized his sword could permanently kill them right? His military can be easily rebuilt, the necrons he slayed cannot.

>>96751071
They'll do what they gotta do regardless of how impossible it may sound and the number of tricks they have to pull out of their asses.
>akchtchually we were secretly 10k marines all along
>akchtchually the psytitans and sisters of silence are on our side too
>akchtchually we can use the webway backdoor to the throne
>akchtchually we can unleash a demonic invasion if it means succeeding
>akchtchually we've foreseen this battle down to every single bolt and strike
the plot can bend no matter how much it thickens

>>96751110
lol, lmao even

>>96750759
>kept alive by haemonculus tech
There’s some kind of backdoor with the technology that keeps the throne going, if Emps ever gets the strength to try and get up, it’ll probably kill him.

>>96750781
It's not even the Old Ones and eldar's fault.
Only reason why Warp is such a hellscape is because of the Emperor's and Horus' final battle on the Vengeful Spirit which shattered time and space, which then let the anguish and suffering from the Siege of Terra to be poured into then placid Warp at the begining of time before the War in Heaven before Old Ones even existed.

>>96751110
they stopped sending nobles, not assassins in general. And as much as necrons hate it they can shove engrams into warrior chassis and nothing changes but their wounded pride at having to rule AI over "people"

>>96751110
The Necrons fear nothing I thought? They trap gods that represent aspects of all reality on a whim

man I'm so sleepy
if i take a nap my jeffe will be angry

>>96751136
Dude me too, I had to watch my brothers pitty last night and he was moving around on the bed annoying me and my frenchie all night!

>>96751134
Necrons fear humanity.

>>96750994
The market for cheap Warriors is great. Anything from 3d printed parts, to recasting tails/legs, to converting, and to getting second hand. A ton of players sold their Tyranid Warriors after the older editions turned the melee variants / boneswords soft.

>>96751114
>>akchtchually the psytitans
they actually do have Psi titans lmao

>>96751145
Interesting
>>96751146
Love that terrain, did you make that yourself?

>>96751133
Necrons would never do that, the aliens pride is what is ultimately their undoing.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96751086
>Literally false and wrong.
It's niche stuff, but it's stuff.
Souls can dissolve, they can split and they can be involved in a lot of shit.
Eldar reincarnated at will, lacking a will to continue, they would accept death and move on, not to mention you cannot possibly consider all the eldar currently alive as indicative of all the eldar that ever lived because of slaanesh both changing how they behave and express, and devouring the vast majority of their race.

If you make wild claims and ignore the perfectly viable possibilities that go against that, you're not arguing in good faith, you're just closing your eyes and repeating your own fanfiction as if doing that would make it correct.

>imperiumfags screeching about their ebin power level
SUPER gay. Doing nothing of consequence and preying on weak or cut off foes is the best.

>>96751179
All of the Imperium’s foes are weak.

>>96751157
>Blanks with insidious powers
Eh?

>>96750821
>>Has a million worlds
And there's anywhere from 100 billion - 400 billion stars within the milkyway galaxy, and around the same number of planets.
1 million worlds, ie. planets, which is only about 0,001% 100 billion. And if go with 1 million off of 400 billion, the Imperium then only has 0,00025% of the planets within the galaxy.
Imperium doesn't own shit.
>>Just received millions of Space Marines as reinforcements
Less, at best few hundred thousand, and most of it didn't help and Imperium is still getting their shit kicked in and many primaris are dying regardless
>>Is reviving all of their primarchs
Only 1 got revived by an eldar and the Lion was quite literally just asleep for 10 000 years and just woke up from his power nap. And both of them have done practically nothing.
>>Utterly stomps every xeno and cultist they come across
Hivefleet Leviathan broke out of the Octarius sector after managing to beat the orks and is now starting to attack the surrounding systems while there is another tendril coming from the galactic West which started the 4th tyrannic war.
Imperium is losing planets every year just due to the fact that the Great Rift is constantly expanding and swallowing up more and more planets into it. The dark half of the Imperium has basically been reduced back to the Age of Strife because they can't Warp travel and trying to Warp jump without the astronomican as a beacon is just a dandy way of committing suicide.
And thanks to the Rift, chaos and chaos cults are more rampant than ever.
Also Necrons are building this funny thing called the Pariah Nexus which is a giant null-field, which has hazardeus effects on life expectancy.

Imperium is far from "stomping" all xenos and cultists they come across.

>>96750994
When I got into 40k in 2010 a box of 3 Nid warriors was $20 and people considered that too high back then

>>96751173
Humans and Eldar are fundamentally different. Prior to the fall the Eldar gods were powerful entities in the warp and watched over Eldar souls. Eldar do not keep their memories after reincarnation and never did, but could access them occasionally through psyker shit. What does on with human souls and dissolving/fragmentation has no bearing on Eldar souls. No Eldar souls just dissolve.

>>96750889
>Guilliman single handedly fixed the Imperium’s bureaucracy
This already tells me you're a shitposting troll or a genuine tourist retard who has no actual understanding of the current 40k fluff.

>>96751179
Mighty high talk for a faction in squatting range

>>96751190
>They can't Warp travel and trying to Warp jump without the astronomican as a beacon is just a dandy way of committing suicide.
Disagree here anon, the Lions book talks about warp jumps just around surrounding star systems but not big long jumps because that would take too long not becasue it would kill them. They can still warp jump but theres no highway anymore its all shitty windy backstreets with lots of potholes

>>96750958
There is no difference between grav-bikes and jet-bikes.
It's just the same technology but with different names.

>>96751190
>Imperium doesn't own shit.
Name a larger, unified empire in the galaxy.

>>96751203
The guy literally went “No u” to a coup attempt and put Dante in charge with like 0 effort and now has Cawl running around committing tech heresy with no repercussions, he can do whatever the fuck he wants.

>>96751214
The Tyranids?

>>96751190
Guilliman lit Nurgles Garden on Fire

>>96751157
I mentioned them for a reason.

The emperor is the only one who commands them and they do nothing but stand guard on terra, the fact the grey knights have them is either a significant exception, or a sign that the ones on terra wouldn't be on the side of the custodes.

>>96751179
>Jobs to iron warriors

>>96751144
show doges

>>96751227
I would never let my fur babies identities be known to some of these creeps on here.

>>96751202
>>96751173
Although the Ynnari books that went more into depth on this were pretty unpopular so maybe they'll change it. I personally disliked the Eldar not recalling all of their past lives but also think it makes sense because otherwise a lot of other stuff becomes incoherent like the War in Heaven being so mythologized by them. They would just remember having been in it.

>>96751190
>Imperium is still getting their shit kicked in and many primaris are dying regardless
Imagine unironically believing this, could be me

>>96751204
>new codex and models
Not likely, buddy.
>>96751222
>muh shitty animation trumps actual lore
Holy shit lmao

>>96751247
Ultras give off a big Police department vibe

>>96751247
Those Vigilus and Nachmund Gauntlet warzones went so well, right?

>>96751247
A primaris veteran gets his head blown off like a bitch by a traitor guardsman in SM2.

>>96751190
>1 million worlds, ie. planets, which is only about 0,001% 100 billion. And if go with 1 million off of 400 billion, the Imperium then only has 0,00025% of the planets within the galaxy.
>Imperium is losing planets every year just due to the fact that the Great Rift is constantly expanding and swallowing up more and more planets into it.
Which is it? Imperium doesn't own shit or Imperium owns the galaxy and is losing planets to the Rift?
>they can't Warp travel and trying to Warp jump without the astronomican as a beacon
So how did humanity spread across the galaxy thousands of years before the Astronomican? The Astronomican is merely a fixed point that helps with accurate navigation. There are many alternative ways, even withing the Imperium, of traveling space, they all just have drawbacks over the Astronomican.

>>96751202
>Humans and Eldar are fundamentally different
That's a text to explain how souls in general work, not something that applies exclusively to humans.
Forgetting the past lives in reincarnations is part of a normal soul's behaviour, as well as it is for them to dilute back into nothingness or be created from said nothingness.

>No Eldar souls just dissolve.
Except the ones eaten by chaos, or the ones who, for whatever reason, might have chosen not to reincarnate.

>The Imperium is losing
>Throws multiple Titan Legions and half a Space Marine chapter at some primitive spear-chucking random xenos with a handful of planets

What's his endgame?

>>96751260
A single space marine LT, killed half the Thousand Sons in SM2 as well

>>96751264
There's no such thing as how souls work in general because the souls of various species are different. Eldar souls in particularly are unique and their system of reincarnation has always been part of their core lore.

>Except the ones eaten by chaos, or the ones who, for whatever reason, might have chosen not to reincarnate.


you're coping because you're an idiot, please kill yourself

>>96751260
with a missile launcher i hope

>>96751270
>still loses anyway
>imperium stronk though

>>96751273
Yes, chaos marines are embarrassingly pathetic. Changes nothing.

>>96751262
Retard.

>>96751276
It’s either a lasgun or autogun lmao

>>96751277
The fact that that Imperium can casually throw away multiple Titan legions and it’s no biggie to them is proof of how overwhelmingly strong they are.

>>96751275
>the souls of various species are different.
[citation needed]
>Eldar souls in particularly are unique and their system of reincarnation has always been part of their core lore.
You mean like how the shamans on Earth reincarnated for thousands of generations before committing ritual suicide and reincarnating as the Emperor? Nothing indicating their way of resurrection was different from the Eldar.

>>96751280
They’re Firstborn of course they are. The Firstborn Deathwatch die like bitches, while the Glorious Primaris hardly take any losses against an entire Hive Fleet and a CSM invasion.

>>96751285
Apology accepted.

>>96751272
To have you ask about it.

>>96751240
Not all current eldar would be a reincarnation of a past eldar, not all past eldar would have been reincarnations of eldar that were around in the war in heaven.
Eldar also selectively erase and alter their memories at will and have mystical reasons to alter them to be mythologically vague, or just preferring artistry and poetry to absolute accuracy, their historians, the clowns, retell stories with overt and purposeful flairs, it's not a matter of them not knowing how the real events played out, they've got a god that lived trough those events on their side and a magical library that automatically records every piece of information about the universe and its history. They choose to tell legends instead of facts.

Besides, when it comes to the shit the old ones do, it's not the first time where it's made so that memories are erased or kept inaccessible for very practical reasons, shit like cognito hazards are things you want to protect yourself from, and sometimes it is required for some informations to not be available in order for some convoluted plan to play out like you have foreseen it to go.

>>96751289
More like evidence of how overwhelmingly retarded they are.

It’s fucking hilarious how even on the rare occasions the Imperium loses, it just makes the Xenos who did it look like a joke.

Like, they genuinely think they accomplished something by defeating some minor Imperium force, they have no idea the shitstorm they’re in and that the only reason they’re not dead is because the Imperium hasn’t put in the effort to kill them yet.

>>96751325
>An entirely galaxy of enemies can’t beat a retarded faction
Oof

>>96751319
Yeah you could justify it by saying that they choose to remember things a certain way or through warp shenanigans. It is just a bit odd to imagine some guy who was at the Battle of Infinite Nightmares watching a play about it that's total bullshit and being like "yeah cool, whatever"

>>96751330
It’s canon that Fire Dragon melta guns can’t cut through concrete rubble and wood. Xenos are truly pathetic

>>96751344
>Imperium tanks are weaker than rubble and wood
>space marine armor too
Oof

>>96751349
Name a time in a book Fire Dragons killed something go.

I do wonder how fleshed out and how far the lore has been developed behind the scenes. Wonder if they already have the Emperor back in action.

>>96751275
>you're coping because you're an idiot, please kill yourself
Do you realise that you're getting angry simply because people have pointed out that you keep making stuff up to refuse considering that the emperor might have not been the strongest psyker that EVER existed? In a setting with a past that stretches so far and with shit like the war in heaven?

>>96751363
If they have any sort of development planned for the emperor, is his utter and final death.

>>96751251
Sorry cupcake that shitty animation IS actual lore

>>96751364
I was commenting on his posts about Eldar souls, and I stand by what I said. I see no reason to consider the opinion of someone who disregarded such an old and important part of the lore. I couldn't care less how angry that makes you

>>96751368
I really have been toying with the Idea of Russ returning and having learned that if he spears the Emperor and kills him that he can basically resurrect/reincarnate to help them fight off Nids/Chaos. Would be cool to see Russ fight through the Custodes to reach him and then when he hits him with the Dyonysian spear he gets a brief moment to confer with the Emperor much like he did with Horus when he stabbed him. Would be l'epic! forgive this rant, I am thought streaming here.

>>96751363
Nah but they probably have the plans to bring back all primarchs already made.

The emperor is by far the strongest psyker ever shown and it's sort of silly to act like he's not implied to be the most powerful. Again, he was capable of gathering so much power from the warp that he began to undergo apotheosis-and he did it with zero prep. No rituals, no insane artifacts, he just started doing it when he saw how strong Horus was. That isn't normal

>The virgin Vashtorr trying to become a chaos god
>might be able to become a god using cheats made by mortals
>has to bargain with fucking computers
>looks like a dork

>the Chad Neoth trying to become a chaos god
>alright, fine, whatever I guess I'll do it

>>96751416
idk if he's the most powerful but I always think of that story where he is talking to Tzeentch and even Tzeentch asks him "Who are you!?!" in a sort of bewildered state.

>>96751369
>i-it’s real lore
>picture of a pedo public masturbator
marinefags can't help themselves lmao

This shit is cringe as fuck. AoShit really is cursed.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/rtcag66b/new-warhammer-quest-heroes-enhance/

>>96751378
>I see no reason
Me neither as far as your side of the arguements go.

After all you decided on the spot that all the eldar souls that ever existed over 60M years, currently exist.
That's a totally sound and logical claim to make, surely.

>>96751451
Go talk about it in the AoS or Fantasy threads then.

>>96751447
My head canon is that this is all because of time fuckery. Time doesn't exist in the Warp, so there is a sense in which he was always the Anathema even in like 2004

>>96751451
This is already better than blackstone fortress.

>>96751452
When asked about it ABD gave an enormous number for the amount of souls consumed by Slaanesh because she ate all Eldar souls that have ever existed. Some edge cases might exist but you're reaching for something that isn't there

>>96751416
>he began to undergo apotheosis-and he did it with zero prep. No rituals, no insane artifacts
Sure, if you ignore whatever he has done in his 38000 years of life including that little trip to molech.

>>96751448
>No argument
Expected from a jobber player

>>96751272
There's no explanation that won't be disappointing so its better not to even think of it.


>wanted to obliterate religion galaxy wide to starve chaos
Failed and therefore a jobber
>intentionally created the imperium as a terror state that barely holds the line and will one day collapse into 40k end times/ 40k AoS
this is awful
>intentionally created the primarchs to become daemon princes so he could redeem them later as a weapon against chaos or something
retarded
>wanted to become a worshipped as a god all along and orchestrated things so that worshipping him would become the dominant religion in the galaxy
eww
>its just dune because at least 40% of 40ks DNA is just a dune rip off. so basically he read the future and there was one extremely convoluted path of suffering that lead to humans not going extinct
I mean yea probably this
>the emperor was just a really high charisma and high powered psyker whos special power was getting people to worship and love him even if it didnt make sense and beyond that he was simply just a slightly above average autistic guy with superpowers
best case scenario but still is a disappointing reality behind the settings myth

>>96751463
>Some edge cases might exist
In the eldar, as well in other psychically powerful races that have lived in the galaxy, which you simply can't know about
But no, ignore all logic and keep clinging to the emperor being the bestest ever +infinite, because otherwise it makes you cry.

>>96751474
>bro please debate me about whether or not my shitty animation deletes established lore, please bro
Lmao kill yourself

>>96751462
>blackstone fortress
That was a waste of money. So glad I dodged that bullet...

>>96751451
>Human
>Male
>Fighter
Yep it's gayming time

>>96751448
peewee wasnt a pedo and he was masturbating in a porn theatre which is specifically a place you go to masturbate. It just seems wierd to zoomers because the internet exists now but people literally had to do that shit to whack off back in the before times.

>>96751451
HUMAN FIGHTER MALES

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q21FBIL3riQ?feature=share

>>96751416
he was nearly killed by Horus, idk if I'd call him that powerful.

>>96751325
Titans are ultimately a disposable resource, the Imperium can always just make more.

>>96751500
>you don’t get it he HAD to beat off in public
Fuck off

>>96751289
>and it’s no biggie
it's very much a biggie, titans don't grow on trees

>>96751509
>I can't wait to avenge my dead dad

>>96751537
Correct, they come from forge worlds, which the Imperium has thousands of and can always make more.

>>96750728 (OP)
>>96750766
If that rumour engine ends up being a fucking space marine character and not a heretek I'm gonna be livid

>>96751537
Correct, they come from forge worlds, which the Imperium has thousands of and can always make more.

Remember, the Imperium losing their Titan legion wasn’t considered a humiliation. But the Xenos not knowing that Titans existed and thinking they accomplished anything major by taking it down? THAT was embarrassing.

I went a bit too heavy on varnish and I've got some frosting, how do I fix this?

>>96751527
Was Horus not imbued with the full power of the 4 Chaos Gods? Also the Emperor loved Horus so Im sure he held back at the beginning. I could be wrong tho as a lorelet myself.

>>96751528
>>96751570
The true bottleneck for titans is finding people with the willpower and character strong enough to become princeps.

Silent King better be written as stronger than the Emperor or I will never read 40k lore ever again

>>96751355
Tabletop, the TRVE representation of lore

>>96751595
Olive oil. Use the knowledge of the ancients, anon.

>vtroon simp got banned
BASED
A
S
E
D

>>96751576
It's gonna be a space marine heretek.

>>96751579
>they come from forge worlds, which the Imperium has thousands of and can always make more
the forge worlds that can make titans aren't that numerous and the making of titans isn't as straightforward as you think.
there're reasons they venerate them as ancient machines, and reasons why they're not deployed on every occasion.

>>96751609
I doubt it. The only thing that makes him special is that he has the necrons wifi password

>>96751635
>reasons why they're not deployed on every occasion.
They were deployed to a tiny insignificant shithole desert plant on the edge of the Imperium to fight against a tiny primitive xeno empire nobody ever heard of before.

>friend tells TTRPG group I’m primarily a huge fan of 40k
>vibe in the room shifts to genuine mild discomfort
I hate what retards have done to this franchise reputation

>>96751595
another coat of varnish

>>96751489
There is no debate, established lore, such as the official animation, definitively establishes deldar, like every non-imperium faction, are jobbers.

>>96751636
>F@

Is white power armor really so hard to paint?

>>96751663
>titans are actually insignificant because they were deployed against tau, you see
>tau are actually insignificant because the imperium wasted titans on them, you see

or, you could discard that circlejerk about the imperium and enjoy warhammer 40k with an imperium that has a few rare and prized titans and lost a number of them to an enemy they were underestimating and which is posing as a newer galactic player

>>96751609
Does it seem like the Silent King is bordering on omnipresent? It seems like he can just appear anywhere he wants.

>>96751691
If the Imperium was underestimating them why did they throw multiple Titan legions at them? The only reason the Imperium would do so was if Titans were actually so plentiful they could afford to waste them frivolously on minor conflicts that don’t matter

>>96751689
I dont think white is hard to paint at all

>>96751689
White can be a newbie trap (it’s me I’m the newbie)

>>96751694
That's all named characters.

If I could magically make space marines as moderately popular as stormcast I’d do it in a heartbeat. Every specialist game of 40k is infinitely more interesting when it starts exploring other areas of the imperium besides marinewank.

The lore is entirely fucked to the point where the only events anyone cares about is when the next primarch/traitor primarch gets released

I just want something that’s actually interesting and not the perpetual release and rerelease of marine characters

>>96751735
Space Marines are awesome, they stomp all the other factions are are an inherently elite faction.

>>96751172
>runs out of finished art and needs to post cropped screencaps of photoshop pulled from bilibili

>>96751689
Joke's on you. I find all colours hard to paint.

>>96751735
No, you’ll eat your Marine slop and like it

>>96751689

It's easy, you just paint it very light grey instead of white.
Here's a good guide;
http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2021/01/tutorial-star-wars-legion-clone-troopers.html?m=1

>>96751718
>If the Imperium was underestimating them why did they throw multiple Titan legions at them?
Because they thought they wouldn't be able to deal with titans.

>>96751272
What's yours in posting bait for the 43rd time attached to that image

>>96751743
They’re cool but it if I wanted to play marines vs marines 24/7 I’d play HH

>>96751773
Getting retards to give him attention, clearly

>>96751773
>the achivefaggot

Anti-imperium wank is just as annoying as imperium wank desu. No, the imperium couldn't beat every other faction at once. But also no, the emperor wasn't just some ordinary guy that got lucky. Both of these are retarded

>>96751732
>If I could magically make space marines as moderately popular as stormcast
Marines are the most popular thing GW has ever made.

>>96751804
>Both of these are retarded
Luckily, noone is actually making the latter strawman.

>>96751609
Then you should stop reading because he definitely isn't. He's just some necron who used to have access to all their tech and be able to make them do what he wants. The threat of the necrons comes from their tech, not any individual guy.

>>96751805
They are, I want them to be less popular so my entire lgs isn’t marine vs marine

>>96751820
Sorry, but yeah, you were. I can tell you are the same moron who thought faith is a special third power that isn't based on the warp. Now there's super sekrit race of psykers that were totes stronger than the emperor. Idiots like you bore me, I wish you would die or stop coming here.

>>96751804
I think if you're getting stressed out and angry over spaceman bedtime stories that you're probably a retard regardless of the side of the argument you're on

>>96751834
Lucky, my LGS is just hastily built with no arms or 3D printed competitive flavor of the month armies

>>96751536
Okay miss Mom against humanity

>>96751054
Nobody is posting any so here is some more

>>96751838
>I can tell you are the same moron
Ntab every person I've ever seen claim this here has been wrong

>>96751834
I want them to be more popular so GW makes even more kits for them.

Why do people love when all Necron characters can die with no consequences but hate it when Lucius the Eternal does.

>>96751838
>you were
I weren't
>you are the same moron who thought faith is a special third power that isn't based on the warp
I'm actually a vehement supporter of the opposite stance
>Now there's super sekrit race of psykers that were totes stronger than the emperor
That's not the claim, the claim is that there might have been exceptional individuals who more psychically gifted than the emperor who have lived in the distant past, perhaps from eldar, perhaps from slann, perhaps from other races
the point is that the setting doesn't actually try to claim that the emperor is the strongest psyker that ever existed, only fanfiction does

>>96751868
Based

>>96751804
>No, the imperium couldn't beat every other faction at once.
They can and are. Lemme know next time the release a game where a dire avenger solos anything

>>96751859
I miss niggavolt cultists

>>96751874
Yeah, sorry, not buying it. I would only accept you saying it's theoretically possible but there is no reason to believe it. It's like saying there could be a stronger psyker in a galaxy far away. Sure, whatever dude. It's still irrelevant copium. If you can't admit he is by far the strongest that has ever been depicted or hinted at existing then you are coping. It is what it is.

>>96751871
A % of necrons are lost permanently in every battle

>>96751871
Necrons are characters, beyond having the the ability to respawn.
And the only times lucius is ever discussed is because some retarded kid thinks its gimmick is some kind of riddle to solve instead of arbitrary plot armor.

>>96750785
calgar is newer than kantor, retard-kun

What if the C'tan that was killed by the Necrons was the one that controlled the entire universes aspect of "Love" and that's why this setting is so grimdark.

>chaosfags desperate to deny the power of the emperor

What other parallels between a player base and a faction are there

>>96751899
Maybe that's what happened to /40kg/ too

>>96751500
>lets just ignore the 2002 incident where cops seized video tapes and photographs from his home

>>96751871
People have been programmed to hate Lucius the Eternal's curse because it means their favourite character can't kill Lucius with a rock.

>>96751889
The Cacodominus honestly outdoes every feat that we saw of the Emperor pre-Throne but in fairness we don't actually know how it did it and could've been using its own tech network to expand its power, it does bring up the question but it's not proof of anything.

>>96751893
Doesn't matter who's newer, what matters is who's the face of the setting and until Robute returned that was Calgar and the boys in blue, not some no name successor fudge packer.

Maybe I should quit the game until traitor guard are an army

>>96751892
The only time I see people talk about crons as characters is when they fangirl about robot yoai in Infinite and the Divine.

>>96751930
ultramarines were the successor chapter, crimson fists were the posterboys
cope and seethe all you want

>>96751889
>but there is no reason to believe it.
besides the fact both eldar and slann and other races have existed for an incredibly long time and were incredibly more psychically gifted than mankind to begin with.
the only two reasons to ignore the possibility are
-if you are dumb enough to think the setting is only as small as what's explicitly written for it, like said retard may think a painting of a landscape depicts a landscape that would not continue past the frame of the painting
-if you are emotionally invested in the idea of the emperor being the bestest ever and consider any other possibility not just an affront, but some kind of personal aggression

>>96751926
You hate lucius for gay lore reasons, I hate lucius because he looks retarded. We are not the same

>>96751935
Well all die before traitor guard is an army again

>>96751936
Maybe you should stop frequenting robot yoai fanbases.

>>96751935
Just start making an army, if you wait for them to put out rules you won't be finished painting by the time they squat them again

>>96751771
If they couldn’t deal with Titans then they couldn’t handle more Imperial Guard either, just spam those

>>96751964
tabletop is not lore accurate, or marines would be like 50 points each

>>96751889
>A % of necrons are lost permanently in every battle
No, that was only true for that shitty half dead BL dynasty. There is no source stating that's the case for the rest of them and even so they can just put engrams in the warriors and have AI fighting for them. Warriors are pretty much gone already and keeping them around is just a honor thing for the Nobles.

>>96751975
This isn’t even about the tabletop, this is about the Imperium throwing titans against a faction more primitive than Orks

>>96751942
Ultramarines are a founding chapter from the original 20 legions
>crimson fists WERE the posterboys
They aren't anymore, haven't been for decades, and will never be again

>>96751975
Tabletop works like old fantasy, for every army that’s not knights, loyalist marines, and Custodes every model is actually 10+ guys.

>>96751990
>they aren't anymore
and they'll always be pale imitations that everybody mocks
You will never be real protagonists

>>96751990
>Ultramarines are a founding chapter from the original 20 legions
not in RT
>>96752000
trips confirm

>>96750909
Nurgle daemons can only be taken in a single detachment. I would get either Poxwalkers or Spawn (proxy them), Blight Haulers and Bloatdrones. Bloat drones pair nicely with the LoV.

If you want to finish the Plague Marine + Rhino combo, get some characters like Plaguecaster and a Biologus Putrifier.

Why does everyone in this general have to act like such a faggot

>Tau gearing up for an expansion into Ultramar
So the Tau are getting squatted?

>>96752018
Because you’re so fucking cute

>>96752018
because 90% are no games and no models and also lorelets only here because they can shitpost as anonymous

>>96752000
Don't forget who's the default and who doesn't even have a codex.

>>96751964
>If they couldn’t deal with Titans then they couldn’t handle more Imperial Guard either, just spam those
That's not how things work.
Sometimes titans are available but guardsmen aren't, sometimes titans would do the job but guardsmen wouldn't.

Not even specifically a SW fan but I really gotta say that those Wolf Guard Terminators look so fucking dope man

>>96752023
Ultramar is in ruins and Guilliman is half dead after his tumble with the Silent King.

>>96752038
Yea they're top notch, all the new models got me creamin

>bongs are going to use the pretense of "they didn't pay the protect the kids fine to block the site in the UK.

Given how many VPN's this site blocks, I take it 40kg threads will have the same lifespan as microplastics?

>>96751886
They still exist!
You dont have to miss them

>>96752038
I think all of their updated models are awesome. Old models are the problem. You still need to play 15 Wulfen and 6 Thundercav to perform well and those models suck.

>>96752046
Guilliman lives in the “heal instantly life support suit” he’ll be fine in a day

>>96752023
No, a common enemy is going to come up and ultramar will establish an alliance with the tau of that sphere expansion, allowing them to govern those few beachheads they established at the confine of the region.

>>96751964
You fundamentally don't understand how the Imperium marshals armies and need to read Warzone Taros right now. This isn't a jab, shitpost or attempt at getting you angry, I think you'll legitimately understand the Imperium much better if you read the first section.

In short, virtually none of the Imperium's military forces actually work together and campaign masters have to politically negotiate with everything from nobility to military and the Mechanicus to scrounge up their forces and are often severely hampered by corrupt bureaucracy, petty rivalries between the people that own these forces, generational grudges and the like on top of actual logistical and pragmatic considerations, with most Imperial commanders often getting far less or far more than they actually wanted and often with entire types of units either missing or replaced with a substitute. In short, it's a shitshow.

>>96752053
>Britain free 4chins
Sorry dudes I hope you get your shit government sorted out soon

>>96752046
>Tau invade Ultramar thinking Guilliman is too weak to defend it
>The Lion shows up and starts cutting through entire cadres of Tau
>Manages to push the Tau back all the way to their homeworld and blow it up before leaving and telling them to never try that shit again

daemonettes coming in the mail soon :3

>>96751944
Yet when we explored the deeper elements of the setting that could supposedly suggest this you could only point to the old Eldar, whose souls reincarnate and souls are what give you psychic power. None are at the level of the emperor. You’re a coping retard who thinks you can overcome this by saying other people are emotional

Yeah sorry no

>TQ
I own around 5000pts of Orks and I had a blast painting them this year. But I think it's time for me to go to more mature projects and try grimdark miniature.

you know its lowkey funny to see what deluded scenario the smfag will come up with next

>>96752071
Lion is too busy having a homosexual orgy in their chapter headquarters (also a gay club) The Rock.

>>96752080
>and souls are what give you psychic power

So with the Eldar at least this isn't strictly true in the sense that they're more than capable of suppressing and expanding their psychic potential - which is a foundation of the Craftworlds. Unlike Humans they aren't born with a spiritual-genetic predisposition to a certain level of psychic sensitivity but in fact choose to become fully psychic or, over time, to lose their psychic powers. The exact mechanics of what happens to Eldar souls inbetween lives is unknown but it is known that nobody has reincarnated in around ten thousand years and the big players of the Eldar don't actually seem to be that old.

Eldrad definitely isn't on the level of the Emperor was before he became a pseudo-God, but the biggest difference is the Emperor has walked a path of becoming humongously stronger by becoming a psychic focus for his race, whereas Eldar invested that kind of power into their Gods.

For Xenos that are absurdly powerful to the point where it breaks the setting see the Cacodominus. How the Black Templars could even get close to it, I have no idea, but with the Grey Knights being primed to fight whatever the fuck the Dark King is with its multiversal scaling I don't think we can even begin to make sense of how this is all supposed to work.

>>96752125
If only Eldar looked like this...

>>96752153
They do look like that

>>96752125
Literally who?

>>96752080
>you could only point to the old Eldar
no, I could post more, you latched onto the eldar, making up more absurd claims about them:
the fact eldar souls reincarnate doesn't mean that the eldar currently alive represent the totality or souls the eldar ever had, they could have had more powerful beings in the past, and most likely did, since they were engineered as a psychic weapon for the war in heaven to begin with and that mastery of the warp was enough for them to create a multitude of gods.

If you do not understand this, then I have to ask you if you are even mature enough ti understand what possibilities even mean.

>>96750909
20 poxwalkers is a staple for DG
Blight Hauler is pretty good, you can freely field 3. Another great unit is the Bloat drone with blight launcher, it's arguably the best unit in the codex and 3 of them isn't badm

>>96752153
But that's how they look

In the novels decent planets have mass produced hover cars for civilian use

>>96752071
one slightly taller dude is irrelevant on an actual war front.

>>96752137
>whatever the fuck the Dark King is with its multiversal scaling
Cringe.

>>96752177
>>96752191

>>96751670
>Picrels joke is that he acts like a giant manchild
>Fan base uses the clip unironically and acts like giant man children

>>96752218
>he didn't get the actual joke
grim

>>96752218
Most 40k fans are unironically redditors, so of course they use it unironically because they are stupid.

>>96752218
The irony exists exclusively to hide the dogwhistle.

>>96752233
It's honestly the ideal position where they can easily phase from unironic to ironic and everyone will presume it's whichever they prefer.

>>96752242
If you know Flashgitz you also know their meaning.

>>96752218
It’s because it wasn’t a joke

>>96752137
>Unlike Humans they aren't born with a spiritual-genetic predisposition to a certain level of psychic sensitivity but in fact choose to become fully psychic or, over time, to lose their psychic powers
Just because every eldar can choose to specialise into psychic powers it doesn't mean there isn't an innate aptitude for those that can be different from individual to individual.

It's like thinking there's no predisposition for building muscle mass just because anyone could theoretically train and get buff.

>>96752199
He is when he can tank a railgun to the face and can single handedly route entire armies

>>96752217
Skill issue

>>96752262
he can do neither of those things

>>96752252
Sure, there's a theoretical limit, but it's significantly more flexible than what we've seen from the Human angle and we're unsure what the upper limit is beyond the current situation being terrible for them. Given how vague and fortune cookie zen Eldar lore tends to be about the nature of psychics it also might very well be a more emotional or mystical thing that defines their current limitation rather than something genetic. Point being Eldar don't just become better at wielding their psychic ability, but can actually become more psychic whereas Humans tend to be stuck roughly where they were but learn to use it better.

>>96752271
I accept your concession.

>>96752125
But they just do?

>>96752281
Let me know if you'd like some paintings tutorials

>>96752274
Primarchs rout armies of Space Marines in the Herrey, Xenos are no issue to them.

>>96751946
Are you stupid? The model looks good.

Are Tau even near Ultramar?
Do they even have the resource?
Their schtick is that they're a relatively tiny faction. A fleet(not even the main one) of Death Guard decimated their Navy. DG retreated because they took too much damage before they could even start landing on the planets. The Tau won a Phyric victory after going all out against just a fraction of one Chaos legion

>>96752280
>Point being Eldar don't just become better at wielding their psychic ability, but can actually become more psychic whereas Humans tend to be stuck roughly where they were but learn to use it better.
That's not a point, that's a baseless claim.

>>96752320
no the fuck it doesnt lmao

>>96752307
>Primarchs rout armies of Space Marines
No, they don't.

>>96752329
>Are Tau even near Ultramar?
In a galactic sense, sure.

>>96752341
Guilliman is described single handedly defeating an entire Chaos Space Marine legion single handedly with his bare hands and without his armor in the cold vacuume of space

>>96752295
Sure. Write up how to paint the Dire Avengers Parade Ready exactly like on the picture >>96752125 be as detailed and as close to the image as you can.

>>96752341
The problem is that Primarch power levels scale like crazy. They can have a decent space marine dueling them and in another elite squads sacrificing themselves to slow one down just for a few seconds

>>96752329
The Tau are a small but dense faction, they’re playing “tall” to the Imperium’s “wide” so their territory has a deceptively large number of resources and military forces.

>>96752365
>defeating an entire Chaos Space Marine legion single handedly with his bare hands
No he didn't.

>>96752366
NGL dire avengers look the same in both minus eye color

>>96752397
Well then, again I accept your concession. Don't act tough when you know you can't deliver.

>>96752331
It's the point I was making, Eldar don't keep consistent psychic powers across their lifetimes so we don't even know if they have full access to their psychic powers over different incarnations. It's not proof that any Eldar is as strong as the Emperor, if that's what we're still discussing, but there's enough indications that before Slaanesh the Eldar were significantly more psychically potent and had much better access to psychic infrastructure to boost that further. Eldrad is the very best Eldar Psyker made in their worst situation.

>>96752365
No, he isn't

What's actually said about guilliman is that he considered a few space wolves COULD have brought him down

>>96751054
Repost of a Sybarite for Warriors or a Hand of the Archon.

>>96752427
Which is weird considering it took two Primarchs, fighting him 2 on 1 with help to beat him into just retreating at one point. One of these Primarchs survived being stepped in by a Titan btw.

>>96750728 (OP)
just finished putting together my first nid any advice on how to fill in the gaps in the model?

>>96751689
Do you have an airbrush?

>>96752458
Greenstuff. Let it cure, then trim and sand it.

>>96752457
almost as if fights aren't a matter of power levels

>>96752458
If you can get a jar of plastic cement you can take bits of the sprue and melt it in there into a pastelike consistency, then spread it on the gap. They call it sprue goo

>>96752458
sprue goo (sprues in acetone)

>>96752468
It’s 40k everything is power levels.

I feel like people are forgetting the Astartes animation where the Space Marines blow through hundreds of enemies without even taking a scratch

>>96752494
Canon btw since GW owns it now

>>96752427
>he considered a few space wolves COULD have brought him down
That's just Guilliman's own opinion, he just underestimates himself because he is very humble as a primarch.

>>96752493
In canon 40k nothing is power levels and authors continually write whatever they want for their stories, half of the time contradicting something else. It's the fandom that comes up with and cares about power levels and we'll continue to have arguments every time a new book is released because someone did something they're 'not supposed to according to X book.'

>>96752504
Eldar are constantly written as having negative power levels in all lore and novels so they’re consistent.

>>96752057
There's a solution for both of theses models

>>96752494
To be fair they're fighting unaugmented Humans with Imperial Guard or worse tier equipment, that's pretty much the lowest bar of chaff for anyone to clear and pretty much anyone other than Orkz and Tyranids end up brutalizing them in terms of casualties.

>>96752503
Nah SW are badass and unpredictable, bite your nose off type of shit. He knew what would go down if lets say Logan and Blackmane got the jump on him.

>>96752494
And in one of the Gaunts Ghosts books marines will be quickly killed by a prepared squad of Guardsmen. 40k power levels are as consistant as Superman power levels

>>96752512
Tau are both smaller and weaker than guardsmen.

>>96752529
But also consistently inflict many more casualties due to massively better equipment and strategy.

>>96752513
SW are just drunk retards, G-man doesn't die to few idiots. He just underestimates himself.

OK so I've wanted to get into (playing) Warhammer for a long time and I've settled on Eldar as my first army. I've been told they aren't a great starting army because they're trickier to play than other armies, but I'm set. I like space elfs. I bought the Combat Patrol and a bunch of second hand models, I've got about 1,000 points so far. Mostly built but still need a bit of priming and then actually painting. (won't be a problem, I like painting and I went heavy on Aspect Warriors both to continue the theme of the Combat Patrol and so I won't get bored painting 30 Guardians or whatever)

I also really like Harlequins. And when I heard that they were getting a Combat Patrol I was like, great, after I have some experience with my Aspect-heavy Eldar army I'll be able to start integrating some clown elfs into my army.

But then I saw that it's a FOMO box. And it's giving me FOMO. I preordered one box at my LGS, mostly just to have it for the future. But now I'm thinking that if I get a second box, that'll be it, I'll have 2,000 points of Eldar. And that'll probably be the cheapest way to get there too.

How bad of an idea is it for my first 2,000 point 40k army, the thing I use to play my first tabletop war games ever, to be half Craftworld and half Harlequins?

>>96752541
Their pulse rifle lacks the armor penetration of a bolter of hotshot lasgun, and other than that they’re just equipped like a normal guardsman but somehow even more cannon fodder.

is sprue goo actually any good or is it a meme of the month

>>96752572
Sprue goo is much easier to work with than greenstuff for small gaps and is older than you

>>96752572
it's goo

and good

>>96752566
>Their pulse rifle lacks the armor penetration of a bolter of hotshot lasgun

But hits harder and further than a bolter and is standard issue and should be compared to the regular lasgun.

>and other than that they’re just equipped like a normal guardsman but somehow even more cannon fodder.

They wear armour that's as protective as Stormtrooper Carapace but lighter as standard and comes with a host of sensor suites, digital maps, targeting software, advanced comms and life support.

>>96752581
I thought Tau were a 5+

>>96752581
And none of that fancy gadgets matters with a bayonet in their neck.

>>96752590
Only Pathfinders are, proper fire warriors are 4+

>>96752562
>How bad of an idea is it for my first 2,000 point 40k army, the thing I use to play my first tabletop war games ever, to be half Craftworld and half Harlequins?
it's fine. might be a steep learning curve but whatever.

>FOMO box
combat patrols are only worth the savings if you know you're gonna use every model in there.
why not play some games at 1.5k with what you have to get a feel for what you like.

>>96752057
>>96752509
And for the wulfen, it's a bit of an expensive conversion tho

>>96752566
last I checked it hit harder than both in crumch and fluff until post 8th marinedex 2.0 autism made the crunch surreal

>>96752595
Correct, but the stats show that most Guardsmen die to superior firepower, support and coordination long before they get the bayonet in.

>>96752581
>>96752590
Guess not. That's neat
>>96752596
Gotcha. I don't get to play against them a lot

>>96752407
GW delivered though

>>96752599
>it's fine. might be a steep learning curve but whatever.
sweet, I just needed someone who knows more about this to say that
>combat patrols are only worth the savings if you know you're gonna use every model in there.
If I was going to play Harlequins at all, wouldn't I want every model in that box? It's their whole range, minus two characters.

>>96752599
1.5k isn’t balanced

>>96752603
The Imperium had more guardsmen than the tau have ammo

>>96752628
Solitaires are epic heroes you can't run more than 1

>>96752628
you were thinking of getting a second combat patrol. I would advise against that.

>>96752632
it's more about getting reps in to see how each unit is used and what he likes. maybe he wants to go all in on jetbikes, or turns out he wants 500 more points of wraiths

>>96752647
Entirely true, I'm not here to say the Tau could beat the Imperium. But in an Imperial Guard vs Tau scenario, the Guard take horrendously more casualties than the Tau in most cases because Tau soldiery are overall better via superior technology, strategy and training, though their training is more focused on the other two aspects than martial ability - separate a Tau from their unit and guns and they'd lose hard to a Cadian, but put a Cadian squad and Fire Warrior squad across range from each other than the Guardsmen are in a bad situation.

>>96752457
Angron and Lorgar trounced him in that fight? With Angron actively dying a braindeath during it as well

>>96752659
>Solitaires are epic heroes you can't run more than 1
Bullshit, I brought 3 decks of cards to my game to play with friends.

>>96752666
>>96752659
Ah. Shit. The box is still a good savings even if I throw the Solitaire away, and maybe I could use it to convert another character, so I don't have two identical Seers or whatever. Or even as jut another plan old Harlequin, since they can be taken in weird numbers

>>96752218
>le media literacy peal clutching over fucking Space King
Jesus christ /tg/ is almost as estrogenated as fucking /co/
>>96752233
How is it a dogwhistle if they say it explicitly? You seem to be confusing irony and satire with exaggerated pastiche and homage.

>>96752686
Begone tranimefag

>>96752632
Personally i think it's more balanced than 2k. It stops some armies from skewing as hard while still letting everyone work with a decent amount of good stuff

>>96752457
Which is weirder considering he almost was killed by a Kor Phaeron who wasn't even really a space marine.

>>96752725
Chaos wank

>>96752524
>>96752494
Pic Related
But don't worry, it's nothing new. In El Quixote, the characters discuss if Amadis de Gaula would lowdiff Lancelot and things like that.

Sex the eldar

can't decide between
1) shadowsword with escorts
2) three dorns
3) or six russes
having a hard time deciding whether i like the dorns or the new hh russes better

>>96752761
British vehicles look like shit

>>96752740
more and more people are saying this

>>96752761
big tank or spam tank
middle of the road is for cowards

>>96752761
Shadowsword. It's cool

>>96752780
She wears pants now

>>96752780
I want to lay my head to rest on those thighs

>>96752698
Hehe, he called you stupid.

>>96752698
Deal with it.

>>96752796
I'm not either poster he responded to, tranimefags need to go back

>>96752809
anime website, tourist

>>96752809
anime website, faggot

>>96751161
yes

>>96752761
No to the SS. Go with 2 dorns and 2 russes (exc or demolisher) + chimeras

>>96752819
Nta but does anyone make a proxy for the Dorn that's not round?

>>96752786
but dorns are pretty big tho

>>96752790
it is

>>96752819
organizationally speaking it bothers me, i'm either going all dorns or all russes

or i just use the in universe force chart

>>96752804
Funnily enough this is exactly what GQuuux said unironically

>>96752878
GCucks was also kinda shit, unfortunately

Gw made space wolves so fucking gay because they still seething about the viking invasion of britain

>>96752329
in elemental council the tau not only know about ultramar but are planning on invading it.

What was he like for most of history? Imagine going to your normie office job but the emperor is your supervisor or whatever

anyone got a way to compare eldar vehicle sizes?
I wanna check how the harlequin bikes size up to the deldar bikes/boats.

>>96752819
Nice terrain, but is that a Conqueror turret?

>>96752932
Unironically the perpetuals were probably more like the illuminati than normal people, even when they weren't interfering with events they were far more likely to be a secret society than your local CEO.

>>96752566
>>96752581
In 3rd edition lore, Tau pulse and rotary weapons lacked penetration against power armor.

Nowdays, pulse rifles are said to be able to punch through marine power armor with ease.

>>96752529
Lorewise, slightly smaller and having the same strength as guardsmen.

>>96752932
he disguised his presence throughout history

>>96752761
Have you considered 10 russes?

>>96752963
Of course, he hid as a salaryman for Company Inc.

>>96752932
Probably just hanged back in the shadows not making huge waves.
But he could easily have been one of those "eccentric billionare" types who collect lot of random artifacts and relics (actually not so random and lot of the stuff was just what he himself owned before in history)

Basically like that one CEO guy from the TMNT 3D animated movie.

>>96752941
No, it's the Mars Alpha battle cannon turret. Conqueror cannon.

>>96752984
Remember what they took from us.

>>96753009
But if apocalypse is a separate gamemode, how will people buy our super heavy kits?

We're making progress, anons

>>96753015
Superheavies predate apocalypse as a separate game mode anyways, I think the best course of action is to stop pretending that every list has to be an all rounder and start allowing people to play into titans in an asymetrical game

>>96752941
these are the tanks for my WIP traitor guard army. Lots of work ahead. I never plan to bring these to any events.

The idea was to buy a cheap kids toy for the hull and then a recast turret. One of the yoy sales had turrents for $5 each

>>96753033
No, apocalypse was a great idea.
>titans in asymetrical game
Yeah because we already love knights so much.

>>96752504
>Well see they could write whatever they want, and the readers are pointing out the contradictions

yes, thats how books work. Everyone authors included read the same books and can make the same educated guesses.

>>96753051
>No, apocalypse was a great idea.
maybe for making super large games faster, not just to run knights
>Yeah because we already love knights so much
Considering how much they sell the actual playerbase does like them

>>96753076
>Considering how much they sell the actual playerbase does like them

Why don’t the Tau and Eldar just kill the selves from despair knowing they’re doomed to be wiped out as soon as the Imperium’s gaze turns upon them for real?

>>96753099
shut the fuck up with your imperium wank already holy shit

>>96753085
oh right, I forgot we're supposed to virtue signal about any army added after 3rd being shit

>>96753106
re-evaluate your life

>>96753111
What are you on about buddy?

The issue is using sales metric when talking about playing on the tabletop.
So you either forgot what we were talking about, or you're moving goalposts to "own the chuds" or what not.
Chill, my guy, you're going full retard.

>>96753123
>The issue is using sales metric when talking about playing on the tabletop.
yes, the game is funded by model sales. We are well past an era of GW putting out rules for shit with no models.

If the general playerbase didn't like knights they wouldn't keep selling

>>96753099
The Imperium never won a single major war against the T'au Empire. What makes you think they can beat them? The T'au know the Imperium is big but lacks the coordination and competence to deny them their manifest destiny.

As for Craftworlds, the Imperials generally fear crossing them since they are military juggernauts that can lay waste to entire sectors with ease if they are stirred to action.

>>96753135
>the general playerbase
You keep saying that when most people don't buy knights.
People buying knights isn't linked to how people like to play against them.

You're not arguing the point, you're just trying to "win" an internet battle, get the fuck out, no more (you)s.

dreadnoughts if they were cool

>>96753165
>You keep saying that when most people don't buy knights.
yeah most people buy space marines, that isn't news.
>People buying knights isn't linked to how people like to play against them.
what kind of statistics do we have for what people like playing against?

>>96753175
>DOW ingame dreads be like

>>96753175
The backwards legs is somehow what gets me, lovely dude.

Redemptors if they were cool.

>>96753085
show me on the baby marine where the knights fucked you bitch hoe

>>96753175
I love this guys dumb creations

>>96753151
>The Imperium never won a single major war against the T'au Empire.
Who has won a major war against the Tau?

>>96753151
Damocles, Taros, the 4th sphere expansion, and the Agrellan Campaign were all Imperium victories, in the sense that the Imperium lost nothing of value while inflicting casualties on the xenos

>>96753175
that's called a helbrute
nobody likes helbrutes
il brutto means the ugly

>>96753194
I love when this thread forgets that everyone used to shit on boxnaughts and prefer the FW dreads

>>96753209
I wish we could get a dual-assembly kit to replace the Helbrute.
Like have it be a straight up Chaos Dreadnought, and then add optional pieces to have it look all possessed, and call that a Helbrute. Seems like an easy fix imo.

>>96752893
What specifically is gay about there current state? I know prior lore had them acting wolfy and silly but it seems that has all be rectified.

>>96753214
I'm gonna be real I don't care what most people think, here included, people have shit taste. How else can garbage sell like hot cakes? (not warhammer limited)

>>96753250
Ew, don't reply to me again

>>96753261
Alright

>>96753223
you WILL buy the fleshmetal units and you will say "thank you", and you will ask for more and say"please", irontard

>>96753223
I second this post, I prefer dreads but hellbrutes aren't bad.
Hopefully they do like the necron wraith.

>>96753223
stuff like that is better done the other way around: a mutated thing underneath that can be covered completely by armour plates

>>96753270
if CSM do continue to allow for a nearly uncorrupted force and full blown daemonkin, it would be nice to have chaos dreads and helbrutes

>>96753293
We luv dreads and shiet

>>96753290
That is a genuinely good idea, and I praise you for thinking of it.

>>96752686
No Reisa posting
$500 fine

anyone else use a spatula to push out all the airbubbles out of their wet pallette or just me.

>>96753208
According to Imperial sources, the Damocles Crusade was a failure. In the aftermath, the T'au suffered zero territorial losses. The entire timbra subsector became an entrenched part of the T'au Empire.

>Taros
A W fopr the T'au
Part of the third sphere expansion.

>the 4th sphere expansion
Imperium wasn't involved in the disaster. The surviving T'au from that fleet established a foothold in Imperial space.

>Agrellan Campaign
Described in Imperial sources as a series of disastrous losses that ended in a desperate stopgap measure.

The T'au once again suffered no territorial losses. They kept all they took from the Imperium, even Agrellan itself wasn't wholly destroyed and was resettled.

>>96753201
The War of Dakka round 1 ended with a big loss for Farsight before he regained his resolve.

>>96753349
Who cares about lost Imperial territory? The Imperium had a million worlds, if the Tau took a planet every day it would still take over 2,700 years to conquer the the Imperium. Planets are expendable to the Imperium,

>>96753267
>>96753261
carnac stop fighting with yourself you brown tranny

>>96753360
No. The Imperium is known to flip out when it loses planets. And some planets are more important than others.
The Imperium is so dependent on the tithe to exist that it's extremely violent and oppressive over the slightest loss of territory.

For example, Armageddon. The Imperium poured trillions of lives and countless resources into defending it.

>>96753385
The Imperium is so nonchalant about losing planets that they’ve committed exterminatus against planets the Tau were about to take, because they just didn’t care about those worlds so even the effort to retake them wasn’t worth it.

>>96753360
>>96753392
lmao the imperiumfag cope

ITT: Kais baits the thread into another tau discussion

>>96752878
>this is exactly what GQuuux said
Grim

>>96753399
Who can stop him?

>>96753392
Agrellan already suffered extermintus BEFORE the T'au got to it.

In the past, the Agrellan was virus bombed by the Imperium and then resettled because it was too important to abandon, since it was a nexus system of Warp routes that led to resource-rich systems that the Imperium could not afford to lose.
The second extermintus against Agrellan was launched before the Imperium didn't want those systems to be lost to the T'au.

>>96753099
>why don’t people go around kicking hornet’s nests, seeing as we’re superior to hornets

>>96753417
jannies

>>96753432
jannies only care if you insult the hecking minorities, thread quality doesn't matter at all

>>96753446
insulting minorities lowers thread quality though

>>96753385
>The Imperium is known to flip out when it loses planets.
Which is why they have a whole thing where commanders can just nuke a planet out of existence, if they have to. Only thing that saved Graia in SM1 were the titans, which had a higher value to the Imperium than the planet.

If the Imperium is so mighty, why did a single craftworld fight several regiments of Imperial Guard, a titan legion and and entire great company of Space Wolves to a standstill? Why was Biel-Tan able to wipe out 10 of chapters of marines and two sector fleets solo?

>>96753009
>100 orks
>$175
The same amount of the same kit would set you back $480. At best with some big box discount they would sell it for $400.

>>96753457
And then the minorities reports :^)

>>96753457
Once you're at the bottom, you can't go any lower.

>>96753009
who the hell would need 10 leman russ tanks

>>96753461
Done in the most extreme of circumstances, when the planet cannot be saved. And even when extermintus'ed, the Imperium might resettle those worlds.

See >>96753420

>>96753426
If humanity wanted to we could wipe out everything larger than a microbe. Everything in nature exists because humanity permits it.

>>96753469
It took an entire craftworld to hold only that?

>>96753457
so does a million other things but that's the only shit that gets a reaction

>>96753478
armoured company players of course

Won a 1750 point game against deathguard today! Opponent conceded turn 3 (I went first)

Good fight, but my friend still needs to learn to stop exposing key pieces of his army in deployment. 'But what if I went first' just isnt good enough if Vahl can pop your tanks turn 1.

Was playing a little more fluffy though, brought celestine and some zephyrim out for once. Was nice getting a HUGE zoom up the board and turn 1 charge onto the enemy infiltrators.

>>96753469
Writing is not consistent, at the same time one single marine chapter was able to wipe out an entire craftworld.

why do they refuse to put this in any box but love splashing the rhino everywhere?

>>96753478
Well seeing as theres like 6 different russ data sheets... And at $27.5 each? Fuck it, I'd pay that.

>>96753492
Small and weakened craftworld

>>96753491
Similar thing happened to me, I dropped my Repulsor in a bad spot and it got nuked turn one.

>>96753495
rhino is a basic bitch unit.

>>96753495
Because they got a lot of rhino kits they want to get rid of.

>>96753480
>muh ebin Judge Holden philosophy
You’re retarded, never respond to me again.

>>96753496
10 russes is like 3 fourths of an army these days at its lowest point variant
what a silly thing to do
it makes the 7 wardog battleforce this year look sane

>>96753504
>>96753506
they're basically sister units though. both came out the same time, both are old as shit, and both are pretty low in points for a tank

>>96753520
Considering that was clearly for apocalypse, 10 russes wouldnt be too insane.
And even now, it'd mean you can make 1/2 of every varient. Yes you're never BRINGING every single one, but for treadheads? You could make a nice variety of russes with different turrets and sponsons without messing around with magnetizing stuff. And again, the discount is massive. You and 2 friends could buy it and get 3 russes each for under $100 then fight over the 4th.

>>96753526
rhinos and preds see regular use in chaos marine armies

>>96753533
Chaos repulsor soon :)

>>96753526
The sisters kit is the old SM rhino with an upgrade sprue, it came way later.

When they want to get rid of their predator stocks, you'll see it in boxes.

>>96753495
They have a lot more Rhinos kits to shift before their squatting than Predator

>>96753518
Judge Holden was based, he understood like the Imperium that the only thing that matters is being the last ones left alivr

>>96753533
thats because they are still stuck using them
SM got totally not primaris replacements
while they're really beating around the bush on giving chaos new vehicles

>>96753469
Bad writing, Craftworlds in lore usually have call up Chapter Masters and beg for them not to kill them.

>>96753545
They're def remaking the rhino and land raider, which wouldn't then surprise me if they did the same thing as before and sell them for both SM and CSMs with spiky bits for CSMs

>>96753545
>Chaos repulsor soon :)
Those are just called blackstone pylons.

>>96753561
Predators can go the way of the dodo bird for all I care. Give us unique vehicles like deathguard got

>>96753530
i suppose so, but still wild

>>96753479
And even places like Cadia keep on ticking, so where's this "freaking out"?

so i should stay away from buying tanks for chaos?
already got a rhino coming in a box so i can't do anything about that

>>96753563
You mean aside from the more common occurrence of Eldar btfo’ing imperial forces?

>>96753591
well you generally need 1-2 rhinos to play the chaos marine armies properly for the most part.

>>96753591
Most armies get 1-3 kits an edition and I doubt GW will do a Mass Vehicle release for any army that’s not Space Marines.

>try to sell some left over intercessor marines on facebook marketplace
>some guy messages the listing I made asking me if I want to buy a 2020 corolla.

>>96753615
sounds like a scam bot

>>96753606
Eldar usually fight BS/WS 5+ conscripts and get folded by anything better. Or being defeated by children with rocks in a BL novel

>>96753570
Hey, once SM stop using Rhinos, Predators and such, they'll be wholly unique to CSM.

>>96753615
Well, Anon, do you want a 2020 Corolla or not?

>>96753469
>entire great company of Space Wolves to a standstill
You mean a 100 Space Wolves managed to fight against a planet sized Craftworld and win? Geez, Eldar are so pathetic.

>>96753623
Sisters have rhinos and castigators (predators)

>>96753623
they aren't allowing EC to use them. maybe because the unfortunate naming it could have
or maybe they're signaling that this kit will be retired
maybe if they get their 2nd wave they'll get their own vehicles

>>96753469
because the lore is inconsistent about how big a craftworld is.

>>96753644
>Ec 2nd wave
lol lmao even, they sold worse than Vottan

GW is going to cash in on grog shilling/nostalgia and just update the rhino/pred/vind/razorback along with new tacts and devs in 11th. they'll get a new chaos upgrade sprue that is worse than the current one too.

watch for mk7 head box as well.

>>96753639
>reading comprehension

Anyone got a link to the 6th edition eldar codex? I need to check some stuff

>>96753656
>updating rhino/tacts/devs

updating? not just throwing them into legends?

>>96753567
I get the Rhino/Preds being remade but why would they remake the Land Raider? That thing still looks dope!

>>96753640
>Sisters have rhinos
They'll just get a kit that'll costs more than the Immolator one.
>and castigators (predators)
Legally distinct with its own kit. CSM will get to use the 3e Mars hulls for several more editions.

>>96753672
Zoomies hate any kit older than 8th edition

>>96753656
>is going to
Most of what has been released in the past decade IS nostalgiawank, they are ALREADY doing it

But I believe the nu tac and nu dev rumors and I'm all for it

>>96753654
Doesn't mean anything even if it's true. Only an unironic tourist would insist otherwise.

>>96753685
New devs don’t make sense because they’ve spent the past 8 years splitting the dev kit up into multiple units.

>>96753670
because R&D costs are high as fuck now that GW has gone corporate. they can't just shit out a new unit because some designer came up with something.

these days it has to go through committee and have two dozen meetings and a couple "working lunches" to figure out if a bolter shroud should be red or yellow on the box art.

or just skip all that and re-release existing IP

>>96753672
>nazi decals
Wow, surprised you even get games. You'd be on the floor bleeding if you used that in my LGS. We a zero tolerance policy for rightoids and other nazis.

>>96753710
Im going to cover them up, I don't want any trouble.

>>96753656
>>96753670
technical they already have with the HH rhinos/preds

>>96753654
Votan still got their second wave
World Eaters are very popular inspite of their low model count and still haven't got their 2nd wave yet
fingers cross Chaos will actually get attention next edition, but i'm not holding my breath
i'd sooner expect them actually making Dark Admech a faction. only letting them have some admech stuff, forgetting to give them all the demon engines, and a new tank that isn't shareable across CSM factions

>>96753668
Its free in telegram or rutracker, use it next time
https://transfiles.ru/25zad

Should I get an Aquila tattoo? I'm worried people might think I'm a nazi.

>>96753695
Yes it makes sense: they're backtracking.

Phobos were supposed to replace scouts, didn't stop them from changing their mind and giving us scouts back (along terminators and assault marines).

First layer of flock on. Tomorrow this thing will finally be done.

>>96753759
>should I get a tattoo
Tattoos are one of those things were if you aren't 100% certain then you know you shouldn't get one.

>>96753752
when will TS get their 2nd wave...

>>96753752
it's been 9 years since Tsons and they still don't have a second wave

>>96753765
This is what the kids call Sovl.

>>96753672
One thread without your models. That's all I ask. Just one.

>>96753759
Tattoos are horrible for your body and the poisonous ink is find in your Thyroid and other glands. Think twice brother!

>>96753785
filter his tripcode, stop giving him the attention he wants

>>96753779
hey maybe they were just waiting to get all the deity legions on the table as their own faction like in AoS!
11th will be the edition of chaos!

>>96753753
Thank you brother, I'll keep it bookmarked for next time

is paint recipe anon still around?

>>96753710
Carnac your estrogenic ass isn't beating up shit

>>96753710
What do you consider a rightoid? If I celebrate gays and lesbians but am uncomfortable around trans people will people at your LGS become violent?

Why do the primarchs look like dogshit now?

>>96753759
No. Don't get a tattoo of something you don't own. Thats why the only tattoo I have is of my wife.

>>96753879
Because you think old fat grogs are cool and crave validation from them

>>96753879
You tell me anon

>>96753782
Hey newfag, you’re trying too hard again.

>>96753879
They're bogged down to appeal to shallow people.

>>96753879
magnus was designed by someone who didn't care and phoned it in
mortarion was done by a fanboy as his own personal pet project
angron is an obligated design
fulgrim would have looked like shit no matter what

>>96753765
Sorry you didnt get many (you)s anon. I think that shit is dope.

>>96753895
No u, unironically.

>>96753774
if we look at most of the new armies GW has released over the years very few of them actually got a lot after they were made into a faction
most of them get some stuff on release but only admech, genestealers, and now votann got a "second wave" while others were pretty much forgotten. the former two had a real slow down in stuff for them

i think GW understands new factions will just sell well on release and build excitement for the lore but also doesn't feel they're worth enough to follow on that hype
a new faction sells more than actually giving new stuff to an old faction. even if both are seldom popular

>>96753902
Fulgrim looks great except for his fulgrussy. In the interview the sculptor said the fulgrussy was a core component from the beginning and I lost a lot of respect for him. Idk why anyone would think it looks cool.

>>96753495
Predator is barely support atp. The rhino is an evergreen kit. Don't ask me why, I love the predator but they really want to push primaris vehicles and only the rhino got the vintage staple treatment.

>>96753913
It’s the only real body horror that he carries, otherwise there really is nothing special about him.

>>96753913
the axewound is the only respectable element of that design

>>96753879
>>96753899
>they don't know the true origin of nuMortarion

>>96753913
>Fulgrim looks great
"no"

>>96753879
>now
They've always looked like shit

>>96753879
but Angron and Mortarion are the best models in 40k and it's not close.

Can I use my vindicare WH+ model?
He's in that big scenic base that makes him very tall.

>>96753913
>i dont like that the chaos worshipping turbo freak is into self mutilation
Hmmm....

>>96753944
Don't reply to your own zero effort bait

>>96753860
>am uncomfortable around trans people will people at your LGS become violent?
No but we would ask you to leave. If you refused you would be forced to leave. It really depends on your attitude.

>>96753937
SC3 released in 2005.

>>96753937
There's absolutely no resemblance outside of both having hoods and scythes because they're grim reaper references

>>96753956
Okay fascist.

>>96753723
You should.

>>96753913
the sculptor of the 40k version of Fulgrim had to save face and do something different after he was beaten first by the HH version

>>96753956
Ok so I wouldn't be on the floor bleeding then. Thanks anon!

>>96753973
Genuinely the only things wrong with the HH model is resin + price.
I do like the helmet option for 40k, so could always kitbash a bit and use it for a generic slaanesh DP.

>>96754002
Agreed his helmet is dope

Bros i need help, can some1 tell me what head is this?

>>96754014
looks absolutely retarded, get some taste.

>>96754021
https://www.warhammer.com/en-NZ/shop/kharadron-overlords-vongrim-harpoon-crew-2025?queryID=33f97727a4975e4d9ac1d5cd6836da9f

>>96753957
>>96753963
>non medieval grim reaper in green, white and gold
It cannot be a coincidence

>>96754002
The wings make it bigger than your bad dragon by two times over

>>96754035
You're extremely braindead

>>96754029
Begging for attention, whore?

>>96754032
bless You anon

>>96754035
I prefer this morty to daemon morty

>>96754038
My bad dragon is WAY bigger, pussy bitch.

>>96754048
The guy who sculpted HH morty is a legend

>>96754002
>resin + price.
and pose and wingspan and thin parts making it a terrible gaming piece

>>96754035
it is, you're schizophrenic

Morty's is the best because he still looks like a marine, the rest are literally just world of warcraft bosses.

>>96754097
Morty is literally what toyndescrvied and also he broke the tone of the setting like the scat fag he is