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>>96769553

>Thread Question
What models of your faction disappoint you the most?

MYAH.. How are your collage entries coming along anons? Anyone wants /yourdudes/ to be the helmet on mine? Post models.

Let Chaos i dols take this thread!

>>96771832
Let Space Wolves take this thread!

This is now a Space Marine thread.

>TQ
Catachans but only cuz the eavy metal team painted them like shit eons ago and refuses to repaint them to make them look even slightly better

>>96771848
Oh and I hate the Rogal Dorn tank, looks like shit. They should’ve made a plastic Macharius if the Malcador was to be forever consigned to Heresy

>>96771790
>>96771862

>>96771808 (OP)
Crisis suits. What a joke. Instead of bothering to balance THE Tau unit James just decides to limit their wargear into a couple cookie-cutter outfits.

>>96771808 (OP)
Tomb blades. I hate those stupid little hamster wheels with their faces glued to the front orb line they're inhaling from a damn smelloscope. Maybe I'll try thinking of a way to convert some into looking less dopey one day.

>>96771877
but what about their models?

>>96771835
the smell of wet dog is insufferable

>>96771877
yes, 10th edition is shit, especially when it comes to customization. nothing new.

You're doing so well then you fuck up in the last stretch

>>96771901
Thin some nuln and put it over the eyes very carefully. It can't fix the cross eyes but it will make them less googly

>TQ

I just bought and painted 2 mutalith warp beasts for my thousand sons and goddam are these models big and annoying. I am also not thrilled with how they stick out beside the rest of the army. The other 95% of my army fits the same scheme and although they look nice they don't fit

Also catachan refresh when?
Fuck krieg give me back straken

>>96771827
Reposed the arms a bit and moved to sculpting. Very much a wip pic, the blobs on the leg will become a spine and a rib cage, and need to sculpt the flames on the sword.

>>96771827
I finished mine just earlier, super excited with it.

You gonna freehand those skulls on the axe that you posted the other time or not enough space?

>>96771808 (OP)
>TQ
the monopose nature sickens me in all factions

>>96771938
Next time. I figured the bloody axe would harmonize better with the heads on his hand, keep everything more on theme. Sometimes less is more.

>>96771808 (OP)
Should I wait for next year when they officially reveal the new Chaos AdMech faction or should I kitbash regular AdMech?

>>96771990
is why chaos in 40k so boring?
everything is "X, but chaos" and if it doesnt exist already people beg for GW to realease it.

>TQ
Electro-priests. Nothing says transhumanist tech cult like a bunch of bare-chested men

TQ
>What models of your faction disappoint you the most?
I still love them but coming from CSM, DG and Emp kids Im honestly surprised by how little I can mix and match their weapons and arms.
All Berzerkers are right hand pistol and left hand weapon. Compared to Infractors and Plague marines where I could make them go dual weild pistols, bolters or melee weapons just for the sake of it. I literally cant make the iconic dual wield Zerker wtf
They are oddly clunky. The Eviscerator axe and eviscerator sword can only be used by one specific body respectively
A lot of their pistols and weapons looks very weird and off if you dont build them as how the instructions want you to. Building 30 of these guys Im forced to repeat the same exact poses with the same exact weapons.
They come with Transfer sheets but all their right Pauldrons already have markings on them, making them only useful for the vehicles that they barely have in the codex.

Compare this to the Eightbound who can be built with out armor, without pauldrons and have a ton of potential mix and matching between their weapons. I have a single unit 8bound all using just the Chain Glaives since all their body types are poseable with it

>>96772006
YOure supposed to paint them blue

>>96772006
>wasting precious electricity on bionics
ngmi

>a whole faction whose lore is entirely about aliens raping and impregnating people and then forcing them and their children to be part of a sex cult, kill other people and finally kill themselves
how the fuck did GW get away with this without people online throwing a fit? do most 40k fans just not know this lore?

When can we expect the end of edition narrative to start and end?

When can we expect 11th Edition reveals?

>>96772010
>The Eviscerator axe and eviscerator sword can only be used by one specific body respectively
false

>>96772023
Most "people" think they are le based communists fighting for social justice.

>>96772023
nobody plays GSC, that's how

>>96772023
Im more surprised they go away with HAMAS the faction
Got the whole tunnels and satchel bombs and shit

>>96771827
Almost done with my flayed ones
tried feathering out some speedpaint to make the skin look inflamed near the edges but botched it pretty bad in some spots

>>96772024
>end of edition narrative
worst thing to happen to the game since the removal of templates

>>96771953
Fair, for a moment last night while laying in bed I had the psychotic idea to try freehanding fishscale on my tyranid's tail. I decided not to do that and just stick to the bioluminescence instead.

>>96772046
I'm in it for the new models.

>>96772027
Really, I found it very clunky when trying to put them on the other bodies
I only built 12 out of the 30 for now so thats good

>>96772067
I grabbed 10 when they first released then the old combat patrol, built all 30 with zero repeating sets of weapons and heads and bodies and packs just by sorting them by body then making sure bits weren't being repeated across poses, have another 20 from another combat patrol I got for a huge discount that I'm confident I could easily keep from seeing anything close to a repeat

>>96772028
>the faction with some communist elements is literally the faction of mind controlled bugmen and rapist aliens who herald in the destruction of the world

>>96772041
That gore looks stellar, what paints did you use?

>decalnazi finally went to sleep
He spent the whole fucking day shitposting. He's clearly a neet taking advantage of his aging parents.

>>96771827
I drew a blank about picking models to paint so I started by painting som infestation nodes (I think they're called that) as pumpkins to get inspired. That didn't help me though so I just picked the "spookiest" metal minis I had. In this case an obliterator and a chaos spawn. Not really happy with any of them.

So not unlike a C-student I call it done and hope for a passing grade.

I present: Harvest time and warp-chills.

>>96772102
oh lmao

>>96771827
the stuff I ordered for my entry has finally shipped today, so maybe if I really rush it I can finish in time.
>I put the order in on the 3rd

>>96772023
its impregnation through the mouth so its more palatable

>>96772023
never got the appeal of GSC, why not just collect Tyranids

>>96771827
I've been doing army painting, but I want to try and speed paint the model I had picked out, probably next weekend. Normally I paint very slowly so it might be a decent learning experience to force some speed.

>>96772259
>tyranids
boring, generic, no personality
>GSC
plucky, inventive, easy to get creative with

>>96771827
Reposting the last thing I finished.
I have sharkboy on the desk ready to paint for spooky month but I just keep putting it off because I'm not sure on colours

>>96772212
Order from TT?

I'm still pissed about the terminus decree

Would Slaanesh approve of Elf rape?

>>96772350
Slaanesh was created by, is sustained by, and is endlessly comitting the act of elf rape anon

>>96772291
yeah, some cheap stuff I'm gonna cobble together into a creepy h'ween bash. never taken this long before but maybe they've slowed down?

>>96772396
My last one also took longer than usual, I hope it's just a temporary blip.
Normally it's out the next day and my last one took a week (ordered on the 5th)

>>96772350
Is it like human on elf rape or elf on human rape?

>>96772023
It's 40k man, that's not even that bad for the setting.

>>96771837
Part of this comes from the fact that for the wider playerbase Ork shooting is supposed to be a joke and they throw a shitfit every time an Ork shoots and it actually does something besides put some dice on the table for fun.
For most 40k players there is only one way Orks can play and win the game: advance through the board turn 1, get points, get some kills and then proceed to get rinsed but win because you got enough points on objectives (or lose because you didn't).
We had two great detachments for different playstyles in More Dakka and Taktikal Brigade but the players basically demanded GW shitcan them because in the former dedicated shooting units were actually *gasp* shooting and dealing damage and Taktikal captured the Blood Axes' smarter, more measured way of fighting in a great manner and once again it had to be nerfed into uselessness because Orks are Goff Pressure until the end of time and anything else is not allowed.

And yes, both detachments were overpowered, but so was Gladius. The difference is that Gladius is still a great detachment and those two are now unplayable.
Basically what I want to say is that Orks are cursed with being flanderized so they can only ever be played one way.

with this being finished im done painting all my ultramarine vehicles! now all that remains is infantry

Proud of how this one turned out :)

>>96771827
probably not going to make a collage entry unless people really want to see an incubus painted up

>>96772259
Closest you're going to get to a tribal faction in the game.
>>96772266
>boring, generic, no personality
But enough about space marines

>>96772505
this is unironically bad

>>96772006
Achievable natty?

>>96772006
They are worshiping the motive force, it's fairly fitting

>>96772023
>raping and impregnating people
Don't they just jab people with actual needles? I recall one cult infiltrating a medical factory and putting infecting dna in some of the supplies.

>>96772505
Can I recommend painting the lenses on the front in some bright colours?

>>96772547
Why the long face, buddy?

I promised some anon to post a wip yesterday but I forgot, sorry.

Does the imperium at large know about spirit stones or would a general make a trophy necklace out of them and only find out they're a bit more important than that if he ever crossed paths with an ordo xenos inquisitor?

>>96772557
You knucklehead.

>>96772569
>Does the imperium at large know
Of course not. They're kept in the dark about everything. Why would the Imperium let the knowledge of a functional form of immorality exists in the hands of xenos?

>>96772558
Well I woke up and now I see it.
Nice work so far anon

>>96772547
>why don't they do The Thing?
Probably because 40K is a bunch of Sci-Fi tropes strung loosely together where on one world they simply take control of the water purifiers and infect an entire hive in one week to create the setup for an ultramarine book whilst on another world that'd never work because the imperium is backwards don't-yew-know and so healthcare isn't real so there are no covid shipments to sabotage and everyone's too conservative to believe in kissing before marriage so it takes a while and so aren't too hard for an inquisitor in her own book the bossgirl to death

I’m not really a fan of how chaos is treated, or accepted in 40K.

>>96772569
Does the knowledge make them more productive? No? Then they don't need to know.

>>96772569
Grey Knights at the very least know about them for sure. I'd imagine xenos specialists like Ordo Xenos and the Deathwatch know about them too.

>>96772023
>aliens raping and impregnating people
Nah you misunderstand anon. Genestealers are castroid parasites, they hijack the reproductive system of their victims and prevent them from creating normal offspring but genestealer hybrids. While also fucking with their mind the same way parasictic wasp parasites do to catepillars.

>>96772499
Tfw the only way I can play shooting orks is by inserting meks into as many infantry units as I can in Dread Mob, gambling is GLORIOUS

>>96772604
I agree and would add the Ctan are also not treated right.
I blame the focus on major 4, gota focus on more weird minor daemons/gods and native warp lifeforms and that would help alot.

REMOVE 4++ FROM THE FUCKING GAME THAT SHIT SHOULDN'T BE ON ANYTHING EXCEPT WARLORDS

>>96772604
I liked it when they made an unaligned daemon model and made it actually canon that not being one of the big four is possible without becoming a mindless beast even by a daemon's standards
But Vashtorr is a fuck ugly model

I imagine that has nothing to do with your problem

>>96772678
The Forge of Souls, a player in the Great Game completely independent from the big four, has been a part of the fluff since forever.

>>96772678
>But Vashtorr is a fuck ugly model
I like how his eyes are meant to look, in the art and fluff but never seen a paint job do it properly. The rest of the design im not a fan of. His wings are cool but the skinny naked apron look isnt right imo

>>96772689
2008?

>>96772696
2008 was seventeen years ago.

>>96772709
So? If you arrived on this site later 2008 you're still a newfag. Time is relative

what does tzeentch want?
personally he strikes me as a god that just wants to keep the game going for as long as possible. he doesnt want to win nor lose, or rather he wants to win while losing and vice versa. but the endtimes is pretty much proves me wrong so i dont really know what to think.

>>96772725
The same as all the other gods 'want' He wants to win the the great game aganist his brother gods. The material world is always a secondary goal and distraction for the gods great endless hosts of daemons warring in the warp

>>96772709
I was only asking if it was 2008 anon
You don't have to start telling me how deep into ancient history the year is :(

>>96772023
>wrongly summarize the the faction like a /v/edditor
>"How the fuck did GW get away with this?!"
le sigh

>>96771827
reposting my finished entry

>>96772742
Very nice anon, never seen him with orange edge highlights. Looks good

>>96772630
The C'tan were horribly written and deserved to be swept under the rug, kind of. We can now expand on them I guess, but it'd still have to come with swathes of retcons.
>>96772604
Daemons/Chaos Gods are (almost) impossible to fix in 40k, the damage has already been done. You'd need complete model refresh to make them separate from Fantasy daemons (including greater daemons).
Remember:
Design-wise, it is not that 40k and Fantasy have shared daemons.
Its Fantasy daemons that have been just unceremoniously shoved into 40k without zero thought.

does anyone remember that one 40k mobile game that everyone thought was going to be 40k total war?

>>96772742
Great job. Very seasonal and even works well as an actual color scheme.

>>96772744
Yeah the idea was to use halloween-themed colors but I don't know how well that got across

>>96772752
>Fantasy daemons that have been just unceremoniously shoved into 40k without zero thought.
Nope, Chaos was very deliberately part of 40k's creation in pic related along WHFB. It's the main antagonist of the setting, and lore-wise daemons are great.

But's true that GW has mishandled them in the game as a faction, and lacking more exclusive 40k minis

>>96772622
As a wise man once said...

>>96772778
Anon you misread that anons point, he was saying the models and their design was unceremoniously shoved into 40k. Not chaos as a part of the settings fluff

Does chaos care about tyranids eating up their souls?

>>96772816
Nah, the Warp gods are probably more interested in corrupting the hivemind than anything else

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96772670
did your opponent roll hot on their saves?

>>96772670
genuinely the only way for a unit to survive
>increase toughness
>reduce AP
>things are actually beefier
>add so many lethal hits and sustained hits and 5+ crits now nothing in your defensive profile matters except your invuln
masterful gambit sir

>>96772835
>Cult Tenebrous
Oh it can... kinda happen?

>/40kg/ pisses on Iron Hands
>/hhg/ cums to Iron Hands
The duality of /tg/.

>>96772689
Forge of Souls always just used to be "This random thing within the Warp that just shits out daemon engines at random. Why does it do it? Who fucking knows and who fucking cares, it's the Warp it's meant to be weird and unpredictable."
And there was no mention Vashtorr ever, and neither was there a need for him or him to be added.

>>96771933
At least Fulgrim was never up his ass about Chaos being just a tool or that it had no hold on him. He just thought that embracing it made him more awesome.

>>96772835
>>96772869
Can't and wont happen for the same reason they can't corrupt Gorkamorka, Sigmar, etc., except there is even less of a reason for Hivemind

>>96771844
Rollan

>>96772876
So what are Chaos gonna do when they have no more people with emotions in the galaxy?

>>96772900
Get gated from the galaxy until people with emotions appear or something

>>96771827
Defending my PhD thesis next week, scared shitless, but I did all the reading I could so I'm just browsing /tg/ now and trying to distract me.
Also, I was wondering, if Iron Warriors are able to replace limbs or entire parts of their body with augmetics and they don't lose any combat effectivness, why does the imperium still bother with geneseed? Why not just go full admech and build legions of cyborg-soldiers with the capabilities of space marines?

>>96772905
Because admech will not just give out high performance augmetics to random imperial laity. To them those aren't just prosthetics, they're sacred religious implements as well.

>>96772905
Whats your PhD thesis about anon?
>Why not just go full admech and build legions of cyborg-soldiers with the capabilities of space marines?
Because thats the domain of the admech and they won't give up their monoply on space marine tier skitarii. GW just doesn't focus on this. But really The Imperium of man is actually the Empire of the Mechanicus, the Imperium itself is just the meat sheild for the tech priests who actually run the Imperium. They control (nearly) all the space ships and technology so they call the shots. I can't see any high lord overruling the fabricator general and forge worlds are the only worlds that are kind of immune to inquistor authority

>>96772778
IMO you're trying to just incite some sort of flamewar instead of getting the point I am trying to make
1) Daemons certainly existed first in FB and this shows with how they were just UPnP'd into 40k, they have always had next to none 40k elements and 1 plague marine with a bolter in a book doesn't count
2) Their models are rigidly uniform and a lot of them are various takes on "basic daemonic troop with X or Y or riding Z", horrible
3) They are rightfully the weirdest faction in FB and I love that, but design-wise are far from it in 40k, which is one of my biggest complaints. A lot of literally-who minor xenos look & act weirder, Slaugth kind of mog everything Nurgle brings to the table and they're not in any shape even related to him. Logically, through alien psyche the Daemons should be even weirder, but Daemons in 40k are humanized and all we can do is cope "well humans are so prevalent in 40k too h-haha, Daemons are just convergently human as well"
4) different universes warrant different portfolios & approaches, Gods & Daemons being the "same" across two only reinforces the above point that its just a FB port, instead of a smooth blend of both seeping here and there. Not to mention that Big Four (whose existence is maybe a mistake in the first place) should've probably had different facets in 40k, but no, they're the same and boring look, fucking Horned Rat even tries more with its Greater Daemons
5) Daemons defecting/aligning themselves with different Gods is woefully underexplored
6) Undivided Daemons and Lesser Gods are woefully underexplored
7) Sea of Souls fluff and what fuels daemons exactly is poorly written out. No, "technological progress" or "entropy" aren't emotions. Are they
8) Timey-wimey bullshit is written like it was made fro 5 year olds or people who thought Warlords of Draenor was some tight shit. Ew ew, horrible, GW should get a slap on the wrist whenever their hand reaches to atemporal writing
(2k symbols is 2 little but w/e)

>>96772918
>>96772916
Biological stuff, don't wanna go more into detail
Anyway, my question still kinda stands, how do iron warriors get all the augments then? If they are easily available, surely they must be superior to going through the entire geneseed process?

>>96772924
NTA but realistically every daemon model should be unique, like even more so then you could make a case for guardsmen or marines. It is a limit of a tabletop wargame that daemons are fairly rigidly designed.

>>96772870
>the most autistic 40k fans like the beakies who are boring and beep boop emotions are for the weak

Hypothetically if GW started publishing explicitly noncanonical stories (like elseworlds in DC or Infinities in star wars), how would you all feel?

Did some blemplars finna move onto my World Eaters pile unless the jumppack intercessors are calling this weekend

>>96772935
I really dont care. So go ahead.

>>96772778
>>96772924
>(2k symbols is 2 little but w/e)
And you know fuck that I'll continue harping for a bit more
You also can't double sit on chairs of "teehee Daemons & Gods are truly unknowable and so-so weird!" and then give them pretty human motivations, outlooks, acts and pepper it all with various backstories about how Ku'Gath was a shitling that fell into pot. Its not like there is any ambiguity to these stories so we can't even say "oh its just a legend", you're just given these like facts basically
>>96772932
I think its a poor argument especially in the days of modern digital sculpting. Even older kits like Spawn offered lots of weird and unconventional bits & ways of assembly.
But I can see how its a problem of FB and its rank-and-file gaming, which Daemons honestly shouldn't fit into.
I am not even strictly saying that each daemon should be *completely* unique, but they sure are too uniform even across different units. Most of Slaanesh daemon range is just barbie-with-hat situation.

>>96772935
Are you talking about 40k crossovers with those universes or just straight up them dipping into publishing for other IPs?
First is rancid, second is wasted resources.

>>96772945
>in the days of modern digital sculpting.
its more about spure space and the investment, like giving so much sprue up for something that doesn't really matter is kind of silly.

Like we could also say every marine should be unique (there actually is a white dwarf about that from when plastic tacticals came out) with an aquilla on their chest that reflects their parent legion at the very least.

>>96772951
Neither, just stories that aren't canon and explicitly exist in self-contained versions of 40k, fantasy, Blood Bowl etc. Like someone might write what the armor of fate failing to save guilliman would be like.

>>96772864
It's the exact same thing that happened in 9th with the Codex creep, except they didn't go to the next step of adding ignores invuln abilities everywhere besides devastating wounds.

>>96772945
I agree anon Daemons are the most mistreated faction in 40k

>>96772955
NTA but I think what GW should do is make an internal (or fuck it publish it in WD) hierarchy of lethality vs survivability with the hard caps of what the game will accommodate.

Not SvT but rather how armor is worse than an invul etc etc

>>96772953
>like giving so much sprue up for something that doesn't really matter is kind of silly.
You wouldn't really need to.
Look at Malstrain Genestealers, they really sell "shuddering irradiated alien cockroach" vibe with their contorted poses.
Look at Nighthaunt, they really sell themselves being ghosts with negative space blanket look.
I don't believe those take much more sprue space than Daemon kits.
What do Daemons do to contribute to themselves being quasi-real, shifting monsters? Nothing. Even C'tan have freaky pixel shit going on for them, Daemons just fall flat in that regard, not counting their looks being too uniformed. Why are Death Guard elites more varied in looks than Nurgle Daemon elites? Its just kinda ass.

>>96772935
But they already do anon
If it's not a model, it's not canon

In fact with the casualty rate of eldar on tabletop, their inability to reproduce isn't canon

>>96772954
>>96772947
>>96772943
I feel like people would beg GW to make them demi-canon through classic "haha Warp doesn't make sense" and it'd hurt the setting even further.
The less Multiverse bullshit we have, the better. So fuck that.

>>96772962
the two armies you listed are a decade and change newer than the daemon models which were done for that joint 4e codex 7e army book release (because chaos was and is the same)

>>96772968
>The less Multiverse bullshit we have, the better. So fuck that.
Isn't there already tons of it, like the eldar looking into possible worlds via foresight

>>96772968
I largely do not care for the setting of 40K, if there are good individual stories to be told then yippie. But as I mentioned before, I’m largely apathetic to it.

>>96772976
There is timeline fuckery yeah and they’re all ass so people forget it.
Most of that fuckery of course includes thousand sons btw.

>>96772955
Yeah it's just something that will always happen because to keep the codex hype cycle going codices need to be slightly stronger every time.
In 9e the big problem was ignoring invulns, I'd say in this edition the big problem is how common and easy to get lethal hits are.

>>96772984
isn't there a fuck ton of multiversal stuff for chaos too

>>96772985
I think some things should ignore invulns, like the emperor's sword or drachnyen

>>96771827
That model is way too busy.

>>96772976
Foresight is fine, pulling shit from AUs isnt
>>96772987
Only a bit, thankfully

>>96773028
whats actually wrong with multiversal stuff exactly?

>>96773042
Requires writing talent to pull off well. The one that GW lacks
Examples:
Sunless Sea/Fallen London, Cultist Simulator
I wanna say Planescape but 1) its not really multiversal and 2) its not that great either
In short, alluding to and introducing multiversal stuff can be done right but it has to be layered under lots and lots of layers of obfuscation and mystery, in a kind of "people in-universe acknowledge some inherent weirdness, wrongness and inconsistencies" rather than what various authors commonly do with "what if labubu was infected by a facehugger?!" kinda stuff

I don’t even think multiverse stuff would stand out for 40K for better or worse.

>>96772900
Same thing that happened when End Times killed most of sentient life for milenias. Disappear from the material world until new souls capable of emotions they represent appear again in big enough numbers.

>>96773068
its explained that after the end times archaon conqueored other universes for chaos before arriving at the cosmos arcane

>>96773055
from what I can tell theres been multiversal stuff since adeptus titanicus 1e

>>96773086
1) its a short blurb and not a plotpoint. Passable, doesn't really bother me
2) it being old doesn't mean its by any means good

>>96773082
We're talking about the galaxy. What specifically Chaos is doing somewhere else is irrelevant, only the general mechanics of how it works are important.
Archaon is a """"""mortal"""""", so it makes him an even weirder case, since as long as a Warp shits him out somewhere he can function there (his powers are the real question), but demons are Warp based and thus tied to vibes of the place they're in

Dunno how to feel about tcg being cheaper than warhammer now.

>>96773095
Theres something like seven quotes that win lose or draw chaos will just move on to another universe

> it being old doesn't mean its by any means good

I have a policy that I don't discuss quality here, because everything is shit. None the less it is an established part of the mythos

>>96773097
Warhammer is absolutely cheaper than playing non-EDH MtG, just through $-per-hour-of-fun, assuming you're a hobbyist and not a tourney player. It's dozens magnitudes cheaper if you factor in 3rd party/recasts/etc.
The initial entry can be bit steep due to supplies but supplies are eternal and there are a lot of eternal, unsquattable units that are core to 40k aesthetic as well. Not at all comparable to TCG with rotating formats.

>>96772924
>>96772945
Gods and daemons being shared between 40k and fantasy is fine. Their whole point is to be the primordial expressions of the base psyche of races.
But they need to conform to the limitations of utimately being a miniature range. So they lack the variety of their fluff just like IG are mostly palette swapped Cadians.
It's better in AoS, were they have been allowed to get more minis, but in 40k they compete for attention with CSM, the actual main baddies. So they've never been properly handled in the game.

Other than that, you being upset about their design and being limited to main 4 gods is a (you) problem.

>>96773106
I'm not saying they won't. But the question is what happens in this univers, this specific material relam Chaos is invading and where all the humans die off.
They can move on, but they can't do shit here

>>96772935
I don't care about canon in general. This isn't a warhammer exclusive sentiment.

>>96773097
>buy plastic crack
>half the models are black sculpted
>buy cards for soi boys
>half the cards are just black men
What have we got to fight over?

>>96773122
4e core rulebook explained that if the emperor were to die there "will be no time no space only chaos"

>>96773136
Well yeh, Chaos wins if he's not around and likely drags everything into the Warp where shit like time doens't function

>>96773112
>warhammer is cheaper
>It's dozens magnitudes cheaper if you factor in 3rd party/recasts/etc
Then anything is cheaper than anything, smart guy.

>>96773115
>Their whole point is to be the primordial expressions of the base psyche of races
Shame they barely express that, especially in art direction save for rare few gems
>about their design and being limited to main 4 gods is a (you) problem
I feel like you're being needlessly deflecting in a broad strokes way without addressing any of the points explicitly

>>96773132
Do people really only exclusively play mtg? Not even digimon? pokemon? yugioh?

>>96773146
Takes a lot of money and time to dedicate yourself to even one of those at a competitive level. Which beggars the question why you would choose to become something like a competitive Lorcana player to begin with.

>>96773140
Not really, 40k only has a stigma against proxies/3rd party in official GW stores and even then you can get away with a lot of things flying under the radar.
Case in point: one anon from this thread got his army featured in fucking Warhammer World for a month, with a 3rd party Artel W miniature as a warlord, for a whole fucking month, until it was noticed.
Meanwhile in MtG there is a fairly strong anti-proxy movement pushed by whales, because that hobby isn't about creatively assembling and painting your toys, its about mechanics and legitimacy of the stuff you bought.
Curiously, there is a similar sentiment to 40k in China which is a little known fact, they really don't like recasts or proxies there, but thankfully its an oddball phenomenon.

>>96773140
I mean his core point is still mostly correct.
If you spend $200 in MTG cards you can do exactly one thing with them: put them in a sleeve, and play with them.
If you spend $200 in 40k miniatures you have to assemble them, optionally kitbash stuff, then paint them, then base them, and then you can also play with them.
That's simply a lot more hours of enjoyment, of course assuming you actually enjoy hobbying. But if you don't enjoy hobbying then it costs you a one time expenditure of $20 and you can play all Warhammer armies as much as you want forever.

>>96773146
>even digimon?
That shit has a card game?
>pokemon?
Some do, but it's way heavier on collectors than actual players
>yugioh?
Only black people play Yugioh

>>96773146
Depends on your race unironically. Pokemon is played by kids and asians, yugioh by blacks and asians and mtg is played by whites. Digimon is probably played by asians but it's too small of a game to matter outside of asia.

>>96773153
$200 in 40k is maybe a combat patrol and some paints and the tools to assemble them.
kitbashing I dont really see that happening there that early.

>>96771827
My last model
Skipping this collage

>>96773160
I'm not very knowledgeable on MTG prices right now but afaik $200 doesn't even get you a meta deck, right? Unless you go for the super budget ones.
I mean, this hobby is expensive as balls, nobody is going to deny that. But I'd say it's still more creative and enjoyable than buying cards to play with them.
The paints and tools you buy for your combat patrol will 100% last you for newer things you get, too.

>>96773152
What stops me from printing MtG cards? What stops me from buying old decrepit MtG cards?
>>96773153
This whole point hinges on cards only being used for one single purpose, this speaks more about your narrow view of cards than anything.

>>96771827
What was the collage theme again? I've been pretty offline lately.

>>96773097
I mean, Warhammer is more expensive to get to 2k but it's way cheaper long-term.
You get models and you can use them for 20 years, with TCG shit constantly rotates in and out.
Still, GW prices are fucking retarded and they're inreasingly forcing people (mostly SMfags atm) to keep buying new models.

>>96773174
Spooky

>>96773173
What else can you use cards for? It's a piece of cardstock with an illustration in it. You can collect them and you can play with them, that's about it.

>>96773180
>with TCG shit constantly rotates in and out.
40k models don't rotate in and out? Isn't that the whole point of legends?

>>96773173
>What stops me from printing MtG cards?
Nothing but as I outlined there will be a plenty of people who wouldn't like that. Again, anti-proxy sentiment is far more prevalent in MtG whereas its basically non-existent in Warhammer bar official GW store managers. Noone will care here. Plenty of MtG whales will complain if you pull out a proxied Chains of Mephistopheles (700-1000$) or some other card, even a 100$ one.
So yes, it creates a different barrier of entry unless you're playing kitchen magic at which point you might just play TTS for both MtG and 40k.

>>96773189
not only that but you're not gonna want to keep playing the same list for 5 games in. Stillmania is a meme in the current warhammer environment.

>>96772942
looks like an ai image.

>>96773189
NTA but they rotate at a far more glacial pace and there are plenty of iconic evergreen models that owe their existence to iconic 40k units.
You know, your termagants, necron warriors, ork boyz, genestealers, nurglings. Those datasheets are basically unsquattable and there will always be models for those, sooner or later. And you can use those older models as proxies for newer ones, hell you don't even have to really rebase them.
Meanwhile you WILL get odd looks for trying to proxy your Forest as Gaea's Cradle.
It's hardly comparable in practice.

>>96773188
What else can you use miniatures for? It' a painted piece of plastic? You can collect them and you can play with them, that's about it.

Not trying to be a cunt but there are a fuckton of other aspects to cards and I'm not even a cardfag: like simply the trading/value thing: we don't go around trading miniatures to get the right krieg grenadier or eldar scorpion.

>>96773201
>What else can you use miniatures for?
He already told you, its the process of crafting them yourself and painting them. That's what you use the unassembled kits for. The hobbying and personalization is part of the payoff, ideally speaking. Whether you like it or not, its an artistic hobby -which varies from person to person - but still. MtG is not an artistic hobby.

>>96773180
>way cheaper long-term.
>You get models and you can use them for 20 years, with TCG shit constantly rotates in and out.
That's not even true anymore though. For either franchise
Warhammer is working really hard to make old models obsolete and MTG has been largely overtaken by eternal format like commander.

>>96773192
>Stillmania is a meme in the current warhammer environment.
Social skill issue.

>>96773189
Sure, but it's nowhere near as bad as tcgs.
Cards from 5 years ago are just waste paper unless they're super tops, they want you to pay for pack filler that's completely worthless etc.
Meanwhile almost all the eldar units that I got ~15 years ago are playable and relevant in the game.

>>96773208
>MtG is not an artistic hobby
I'm sure there are people pimping out their cards/decks/cases.
I think this is just an issue of not knowing much about card games outside of the surface level.

>>96773213
>I'm sure there are people pimping out their cards/decks/cases.
I apologize but I think people who draw their own art for their own proxies are an infinitesimal portion of MtG players and I don't consider people from mtg threads on here ordering AIslop proxies to be "artistic", sorry.

>>96772924
>me when i fart on my asian boy princess

>>96773201
What I told you. You don't even have to play the game and in fact many people are just in it for the hobbying aspect and have never rolled a die.
You keep telling me there are other aspects to cards and you can't name them, except the elephant in the room: you can trade and speculate with cards, which is by far one of the most cancerous parts about that hobby, that secondary market created by the artificial scarcity of cards and something I'm extremely happy warhammer doesn't have.
So you can play with them and you can speculate with them to make money.

>>96773209
I played mtg before it was a thing but Commander was created by the community, wasn't it?
It wasn't the way WotC intends for their audience to engage with their product. They embraced it and they're making money off it by constantly releasing new decks specifically designed for EDH with alternate arts for sol rings etc and they're still selling crazy well.

>>96773221
I'm not a card fag, what I'm saying is that it's reductive and uninformed.
If you were a big card fag who had decades of experience in that space then maybe I'd believe when you say "there's nothing much you can do with cards".

Beside most people who collect barely touch the artistic+hobby side.

>>96773208
>artistic
Maybe it's just me but I think hobbying is more akin to a craft than art until the very highest level

>>96773217
Sadly this is true.
I alter my own cards and I know nobody else that does at my two locals.

>>96773246
>painting isnt artistic actually

>>96773238
I mean what else can you do with a piece of paper with an illustration in it? You can't name anything, I can't name anything, i don't think we need a guy with 30 years of experience playing magic to find out. There just isn't much, it's mainly a hobby about consumption and the main draw is the appeal of buying packs and getting rare cards, and then there's a competitive ruleset you can play with it.
>Beside most people who collect barely touch the artistic+hobby side.
I mean this is plainly false. There are lots of people with massive backlogs sure but the average person that has some warhammer minis has at some point painted and assembled some of their miniatures, if not they'd simply sell it off (which many do once they realize the time involvement required).

What Buffs did they give to Mechanicus that turned them from just barely better than Imperial Agents to 58% winrate?

>>96773256
>I mean this is plainly false. There are lots of people with massive backlogs sure but the average person that has some warhammer minis has at some point painted and assembled some of their miniatures, if not they'd simply sell it off (which many do once they realize the time involvement required).

>>96773254
Slathering some pigment on a plastic piece isn't art.

>>96773263
They were an extremely cheap army with incredible mission play balanced by not being able to kill anything.
Now they're able to kill stuff because one of their leaders was given the space marine army rule.

>>96773263
>winrates
I don't care

>>96773254
I mean we're not painting lancscapes or portraits, it's essentially coloring a 3d object. Not trying to belittle it or anything, I just think it's more about skill than creativity which makes it more of a craft in my opinion.

>>96773269
>>96773246
I mean as long as art is done earnestly, art is art.
A 5yo's macaroni picture made on Mother's Day is art.
Miniature conversion & painting is far from high art but it is artistic. I understand having a personal barrier against calling it as such, I have one myself, but looking at it objectively I think it is.

>>96773263
Well, first of all admech was never bad (after the first 6 month of their coded anyway). They have incredible secondary play and very cheap efficient units for trading with tons of 5++ and army wide stealth that make them a bitch to remove efficiently. Just nobody wants to play an extremely boring move block style Army that doesn't actually kill anything because it is extremely taxing and exhausting and time consuming to play correctly. Not to mention it's prohibitively expensive to actually collect and build and paint.

Suddenly turning Cawl into an oath of moment dispenser massively boosted the output of the army. Not to mention even more tiny buffs to their shooting on their ironstriders.

>>96773280
A good scheme definitely requires artistry/creativity and anything freehanded is objectively going beyond "3D colouring book" sentiment.

>>96773160
People kitbash things out of a single combat patrol all the time, if anything a beginner is more likely to kitbash stuff out of the things they have on hand rather than purchase kits explicitly for kitbashing

can scarab occult terminators not go into the chaos rhino?

>>96773319
gave me a laugh

>>96773325
>can terminators not go into the rhino?
No(t anymore).

>>96773338
You can just admit you don't know what you're talking about anon, it's okay.

I love my big red wife magnus the red

>>96773325
Check your codex

>>96773343
How big were termies back then?

>>96773383
Smol

all they have to do to make female space marines accepted is start with one super hot lost primarch returning to reclaim her legion. once the seal is broken the snowball will roll easily down the slippery slope.

>>96773378
but thats what i dont get either you cant have terminator models in there anymore which just seems wrong, or the capacity doesnt apply for terminator models so you could technically have infinite of them which also seems wrong

>>96773383
Shorter than marines, but bulkier.

>>96773385
Does anyone have a pic of the termies of that era next to the rhino? To see how big I need to make my scale accurate rhino

>>96773397
You can't have terminators in them any more. I don't know why you need help interpreting that, it's pretty clear

>>96773400
Best I could find. 2e terminators are about the size of modern Votann.

>>96773386
People only want femarines to virtue signal, "own the chuds" or porn addiction, and I think that's pretty fucking sad.

>>96773400
Google rogue trader space marine army

>>96773359
the entire point of combat patrol is that you're not going to want to customize your units a single way. Also do pray tell, what is a world eater, or eldar combat patrol going to have that lets someone kitbash those models into something else?

>>96773412
Even then they barely looked like 5 could fit in.

>>96773414
which is why GW will inevitably do it

>>96773414
I don't know why people need female space marines in the fluff to feed their porn addiction. We've had plenty of 40k porn about things that aren't canon.

>>96773423
Follow the money (investors and shareholders listening to loud social leeches)
>>96773425
If there's something about addiction to know is that it's never enough and will get worse.

>>96773412
How many points is this in 10th

>>96773425
To a certain type of person, forcing everyone else to acknowledge and submit is the actual fetish.

>>96773410
it just seemed so wrong and im a bit retarded im sorry if its annoying, i tried googling it but i couldnt really find any answers sorry.

>>96773440
>If there's something about addiction to know is that it's never enough and will get worse.
Oh, I know. I just don't need any of it to be canon.

>>96773417
You aren't forced to play combat patrol because you bought a combat patrol, its just one of the many things you can do with a combat patrol of models. Most people buying them are using them for 40k army starters. Also a world eater or eldar player could kitbash whatever they wanted out of the parts, there's no rules to converting. It could be something really complicated and involve all sorts of other materials like plasticard, greenstuff, etc, or it could be something like putting an eight bound head on a berserker.

>>96773425
This is why I find the porn addicts the most disingenuous of the bunch.

>>96773445
I think there's a term for forcing sex onto others.

Why no chaos land speeder? Not evil enough?

>>96773468
glue some spikes on a marine land speeder and you'll have a chaos one

>>96773468
Because GW wants to differentiate factions from one another and reduce shared kits, even if in fluff there's nothing to stop it.

>>96773468
Dude chaos is hard to take seriously enough as it is.

>>96773468
Those HH grav speeders things look way better anyway and make more sense for them to have

>>96773484
>"Fly me closer, I need to axe them something!"

>>96773468
Wasn't the original explaination that land speeders were a post heresy thing?

I think CSM should get most/all SM stuff because chapters can go traitors; not all chaos marines out there are vets of the long war.

>>96773499
I like how the other dude just stares at him in disbelief.

>>96773473
Why is one of them tipping over. That fatter one isn't even on that side of the speeder

>>96773442
~1700

>>96773499
>That's it, you're gonna fucking get it, almost fucking there
>Fucking god not again you cannot be serious

>>96773505
Primaris can’t turn chaos silly billy

>>96773505
>a post heresy thing

>>96773520
>Wasn't the original explaination [...]
>The
>Original

>>96773505
We used to be a proper wargame.

What's the silliest retcon GW has ever tried to pull just to justify a model making sense?

>>96773534
Beside the obvious "primaris marines", I'd say custodes as a whole.

>>96773544
Primaris isn't a retcon though it's an expansion

>>96773548
It's not a retcon (singular) it's retcons (plural).

>>96773544
>>96773545
>WE WANT THE SETTING TO MOVE FORWARD WAAAAAH
>cawl invents new thing and moves the setting forward
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NOT LIKE THAAAAT

>>96773534
Primaris, GW could have just sold bigger marines like they did to the updated chaos space marines.
Custards leaving the Palace which goes aganist a lot of the settings motiffs and the changes what the custodes represent in the setting.

>>96773544
>>96773545
>>96773548
>there were always 10,000 super marines hiding underground in labs waiting to be released

>>96773534
The real answer is primaris but the whole thing with the thousand sons kidnapping marines from other legions to turn them into helbrutes to explain why their dreadnoughts have all those fleshy parts is also fucking stupid.

>>96771827
Repostan

>>96773555
Goomba fallacy.

>>96773555
I have never said the setting should move forward.

>>96773565
The only thing spooky about this is your colour choices.

they should move the setting forward to warhammer 40001

I've kinda reached the point where I dont care for the setting. I just like cool guns being wielded by bigger men.

>>96773562
> kidnapping marines from other legions to turn them into helbrutes
Should we release a rubric dreadnought? Or even just a unit profile?
Nah, retardo-lore go
Also, release the bird bots.

>>96771827
I'm trying to trust the process on this one

>>96773544
>>96773558
I can imagine a few of them going on missions when the Emperor tells them to (like when they went and got Alicia Dominica to meet with the Emperor), but they shouldn't exist as a whole army. Not in 40k.

>>96773578
>The Emperor dies, nobody knows what happened to the Sol system, lots of rumours and panic at every level of government acorss all worlds
>Tech priests go mad with the possible loss of Mars
>The imperium is dealt fatal wounds by the tyranids and necrons and chaos
>Orks Waaghs and xeno empires like the Tau swarm in the gaps of these forces to expand
>Eldar carry on like normal feeling quite smug to have outlived Humanities empire

>>96771844
roll

>>96773520
Does anyone have an idea if this is purely a heresy rg thing or if they've used it on 40k stuff as well? Only other place I've seen it is the resin rg contemptor

>>96773599
Frankly the emperor shouldn't say anything, otherwise it defeats the point of being called a corpse-emperor.
"Is the fucker dead or not" is part of the fun.
I'll even go as far to say that if the emperor is dead it makes the imperium more interesting.
I'm an imperial fag btw.

>>96773594
Looks sweet so far. Are you using that little wire as some sort of finger brace while painting? That's a clever idea. I've seen some painting handles have little braces like that but never tried one.

>>96772039
>genestealers are building tunnels below the childrens hospitals goy! You need to send us more money!

does 40k actually take place in the exact year of 40000 or are they too busy waging war to keep up to date with the calendar?

>>96773607
The HH RG character also has it.
Nothing stops you from having those motifs on a 40k RG, but it's pretty much a HH thing: RG didn't have a lot of visual flair, being mostly RG symbols, laurels and crow remains, so they added those motifs.

IIRC it's based on maori (don't quote me on that) and is supposed to be from where the RG was raised on Terra.

TL;DR: it's a HH thing.

>>96773616
It's way too late now without invalidating decades of fluff and completely changing how things work.

>>96773634
You could play any time/era or even no specificed.
There were specific dates (since some factions/wargear only appeared at certain times).
It used to M40.999 iirc (year 40999), but now it's later I believe.

The Rogue Trader CRPG did a surprisingly good job at being grimdark without grimderp. Except for some ending slides.

You often have to choose between "nice" or crazy dogmatic options, and if you choose the nice ones then something horrible happens a lot. You can choose to spare a planet from Exterminatus in Act 1 and if you then it becomes a daemon world. If you show mercy to mutants on your ship early in the game then it turns out they were corrupted by Nurgle. So in both cases killing them all and letting the emperor take his own was right.

On the other hand the dogmatic side is pretty fucking crazy. They love to kill people for no reason or do other insane shit. Like to the level you would expect based on lore. So there is really no "good" choice.

>>96773630
There's one now!

>>96773644
Yep, that's why I'm writing my own stuff, the kits and older stuff (good inspiration/material to understand what makes 40k great) is all I care about now.
Currently working on regiments.

>>96773635
Oh I wasn't worried about whether it was from heresy for modeling reasons, I was just asking so I'd now which game to be looking up marines for to see more examples of it being done. Also
>bolt revolver
Kino.

>>96773658
Then the answer is still HH, closest 40k I can think of are people doing carcharodons with patterns.
>bolt revolver

James its been almost a month, where are my updated Deathwatch Veteran rules

>>96773658
>bolt revolver
Fulcrum hand cannon(s).

>>96773669
Might just be me, but something about the joytoys hair looks so fucking weird along his hairline where it attaches to his head.

isnt joytoy a euphemism for dildo

>>96773629
That's the intent, it literally just a paperclip pushed into two drilled holes that i usually use to hold separate heads for painting
Also thank you
>>96773674
Hanging out with Karamazov and the monkey gang in the void.

>>96773698
Not one I know of

>>96773694
Noodle hair, beautiful noodle hair.
Funny enough, back when I looked for more pics of that bolt revolver he has, I found out that there is a whole business of helmeted heads for the primarch figures, and since I'm a huge fag for helmets, I was pretty happy.

There are many designs for each primarch, it's like discovering a whole ant colony under your floor.

>>96773703
People should do more alternative colours for purity seal scripts, they look really cool in black

>>96773616
>Frankly the emperor shouldn't say anything, otherwise it defeats the point of being called a corpse-emperor.
And that doesn't anymore since we have had numerous moments of the Emperor getting involved or "talking"
Like when he and Guilliman talked, or when Emperor quite literally revived Guilliman after Morty had used the Godblight shit on him.

Emps has never been dead dead or just a mere corpse. It's like Sanguinius being "dead", that fucker has been truely dead either and he appears to the Blood Angels ever so often to give them some pep-talk and whatever.

>>96773669
>>96773694
Why the fuck Russ is not popular among girls? They like bat shit crazy Curze or Corax, Magnus and Sanguinius. Hell even Angron. But not the Good boy Russ. WTF?

>>96773721
Oh yeah, I know a lot of people really like customizing the joytoys. There's loads of options tailored for the action figures but there's also little stopping you from scaling up 3d printed bits for miniatures and using those

>>96773644
The only places that treats the Emperor as if he alive and talking is a couple BL slop books. The SoB stuff with Vandire is historical revisionism to justify the coup aganist the man ruling the Emperor. Hardly invalidating decades of fluff and completely changing how things work.

>>96773734
He gives women the ick would be my guess?

>>96773733
The Emperor is very much alive. Even if his physical body were to be destroyed his "soul" (if you can even call it that at this point) wouldn't dissipate in the warp. His psyche is fragmented from constantly dying and regenerating plus worship of quadrillions of humans turning him into a god that is pulled in a million different directions.

One of my head canons is that the chaos gods create daemons in part because an entity like them has real problems pulling itself together. It's too multifaceted, too drawn in different directions. So splitting off bits of itself with more singular minds is effective


>>96773738
The emperor is currently powering the astronomicon, performing miracles, using his tarot, sending dreams to custodes, making living saints...that's not "dead" anon.

>>96773734
As a general rule, girls don't think vikings are very cool. They're pretty much allergic to anything that has "LOL BEER AND WENCHES XD" as an important part of their identity.

>>96773721
>MkIV style helmet on MkII style armour
But we know what Russ' helmet is suppose to look like, Ulrik has it.
>a whole business of helmeted heads for the primarch figures
Any of them have Fulgrim's OG helmet?

>>96773734
If he was more werewolf and less thor then chicks would dig him.

>>96773737
The horus one is probably my fav, I really dig the "faceless arch champion of chaos" look.

>>96773734
He's lame. Out of all the primarch pretty boys he is the least interesting to me. Maybe if there were stuff about him turning into a werewolf and raping people.

>>96773734
Furries are kind of gross outside of when they're executed Japanese style.

>>96773741
And Curze not? Konrad look and smell like he was dead for several days. But he has a lot of fangirls. What's wrong with women?

god i hate elves

>>96773748
>Anon confuses the shatted hivemind in the Warp born from the worship of a trillion trillion souls with the corpse in the jar atop a nuclear reactor that went critical
It's two different and seperate beings sharing a name

>>96773751
>mk2 style armor
Russ is wearing mk4.

but omegabased blanche fulgrim.

I demand Drazhar be nerfed, It is bullshit he can hack up my chaos lord with zero effort just by existing and the buffs he provides to incubi are absurd.

>>96773752
>We have Archaon at home (on planet chaos)

>>96772350
Not possible. Can you rape Slaanesh? No? Then you can't rape misplaced pieces of it either.

>>96773763
Humans already lack a concrete self, but that's mostly semantics anyway. Whether it was born from him, created by the belief of countless humans, or something else, there is a being called The Emperor that remembers being the Emperor of Mankind and acts directly in the galaxy constantly at all times

>>96773765
What buffs does he even give Incubi anymore? A 6" pile in?

>>96773738
>The only places that treats the Emperor as if he alive and talking is
40k rulebooks and codexes for editions and editions. He enhances the astronomican, He keeps Chaos at bay else it'd consume humanity and fuck up the galaxy, astropaths are soul-bound to him, the byproducts of his metabolism are used to make psyk-out weapons, they feed him a thousand souls a day (ones not fit to even power the astronomican), had to fix the Golden Throne at a great cost, Guilliman also spoke with the Emperor, and so forth. You'd have to retcon all of these things out of existence for him to be dead.

>>96773768
Faceless evil warriors with strange names and a long list of terrifying titles > spiky bald marine

>>96773771
And it is not known if that beings consciousness is a transference of the consciousness of the the corpse in a jar atop the Golden Throne, or a copy of his personaility or a unique mind who simply thinks hes someone thats hes not.

>>96773781
Yeah a lot of people don't seem to realize that he is literally holding back all 4 chaos gods at all times. It's mentioned in several places to be a bit like a staring contest. The chaos gods don't get too close but surround him and they're just kind of staring at each other...menacingly

>>96773764
>Russ is wearing mk4.
With MkII style segmented plating, evoking the style of MkII.

>>96773786
It seems implied to be an amalgam, which makes sense given his fractured psyche. It's a shattered man who is dying and being regenerated, a warp entity created by its worshippers, the soul of an ancient psychic...it's not either/or/. It's not wonder the emperor is unable to pull his mind together in a coherent way

>>96773780
6" pile in and +1 to wound when using a pain token. Chaos lord and even chosen don't stand a chance against that plus dev wounds from the incubi themselves.

>>96773791
The segmented plate thing is just something SWs do

>>96773791
Or it's just artificer mk4 and they just added ridges to it to make it look cooler.

>>96773781
>He enhances the astronomican
Does he really do that though? or is that what the Imperium beleives and the cover story of feeding a thousand psykers a day to him. When really thats that 1k deaths and the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of other psykers being tortured by it thats actually powering it
>He keeps Chaos at bay else it'd consume humanity and fuck up the galaxy
That warp portal was closed during the HH and has a sun placed in the way as I recall but I could be wrong
>astropaths are soul-bound to him
To the Emperor corpse or the God Emperor Warp power?
>the byproducts of his metabolism are used to make psyk-out weapons
I don't know what you're referring to here
>Guilliman also spoke with the Emperor, and so forth
People beleive Rowboat spoke to him, Guilliman could very well actually be Alpharius or Omegon in disguise after dispossing of the real gullimans body 10k years ago (look up this theory, its fun even if a bit out there)

>>96773797
If you're losing a bunch of W3 models to 2 damage incubi+Drazhar, either you're very unlucky or throwing them away. Drazhar is actively worse than he was in the index and the squad is less durable than tissue paper.

>>96773801
On suits of armour known for segmented plates (MkIII just has the ones at the front hidden under solid plates, but from the behind they're all segmented up).

>>96773811
It's just a SW thing, I don't know what to tell you.

>>96773807
>Guilliman could very well actually be Alpharius or Omegon in disguise
That'd be unironically cool but nuGW will never go with that. It's real Guilliman and he's going to turn Imperium into heckin good guys™

>>96773803
Thus give him a MkIV helmet in the style of MkII. They didn't give Helbrecht a MkX helmet for his segmented MkX suit.

>>96773820
Well helbrecht is wearing MkX based on his old Mk2, so it makes sense why his MkX helmet is also based on mk2.

That's why they gave mk4 russ a mk4 helmet.

>>96773810
>Drazhar is actively worse than he was in the index
What timeline are you in?

>>96773810
Drazhar got a fair amount better. He was barely played in the index (Skysplinter). Now he is a threat solo or with a squad.

>>96773816
I can't be the only one who thinks this looks shit

>>96773839
The current one? He lost pain token reroll to hit +1 AP in exchange for an ability he had innately before, and his dual blade profiles lost twin linked in favour of dev wounds; on top of that, incubi are now more expensive, and suffer the same pain token fate (though with the other buffs they got come out about the same damage output in the wash). I still like him, but he's almost objectively a worse profile now.

>>96773850
Yeah it's ass, it's a terrible fucking banner.

Kranon the Relentless? More like CRAPNON THE DICKLESS!

>>96773862
Genuinely like how thick they are
Feels good to see marines who don't have chicken legs.

>>96773758
Konrad doesn't smell like anything he's not real. Are you actually retarded

>>96773862
That plasma effect is so fucking good, absolute banger.

>>96773857
>>96773850
>>96773857
What is it even representing

>>96773862
It's fascinating to me that GW briefly played with making a literal who warband the face of chaos for a little while

>>96773885
The twin headed imperial eagle

>>96773807
>Does he really do that though?
Yes, it's stated many times as objective fact, not Imperial propaganda.
>When really that's that 1k deaths and the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of other psykers being tortured by it that's actually powering it
The psychic choir is different from the psykers fed directly to the Emperor. As I said, ones not worthy of even joining the Choir are fed to the Emperor. This is stated in the rulebooks.
>That warp portal was closed during the HH and has a sun placed in the way as I recall but I could be wrong
I'm not even talking about the webway gate. It's stated in the rulebooks that if he dies, nothing stands in the way of Chaos just consuming humanity as a whole.
>the God Emperor Warp power?
So he's dead but also a god now?
>I don't know what you're referring to here
Pic related.

>>96773888
Didn't they knew the Dangels' secret? Needs to be someone they can kill off.

>>96773862
Prob one of the best art pieces ive seen for Warhammer

>>96773890
I don't see it

>>96773901
Sorry to hear

>>96773897
I'm pretty sure just about every traitor legion is aware of their secret by now
They just don't care

>>96773768
he's not strong enough to be archaon desu. archaon would kill the primarchs and emperor easily in a fight

>>96773850
Local variants of the aquila have existed forever. I'll take it over every aquila design having its own name.

>>96773855
>The current one? He lost pain token reroll to hit
Against targets below starting strength he inherently re-rolls to hit, no pain token required. The +1 to wound from a pain token is far, far more valuable on him as you're suddenly wounding nearly every marine in a 2+.

>>96773888
It's no coincidence, IMO. 6th edition was also when the HH game was released featuring the traitor legions.
I guess they wanted to make each setting more distinct in focus until the success of the HH ultimately made GW focus on the cult legions with TS in 7th and DG in 8th

>>96773911
>sunwheel

>>96773897
>Didn't they knew the Dangels' secret?
No, they were just incredibly salty towards the DA.

>>96773893
1000 ordinary psykers couldn't power the astronimicon for a day. Malcador begun turning to dust almost immediately and he was alpha plus. It takes a Magnus or Emperor level psyker to power it without being destroyed almost instantly

>>96773931
I think the HH novels are stupid for trying to hi-jack everything into their retarded "emperor's big smart plan" plot.

>>96773919
Okay, and he had that before with incubi innately, and his anti-MEQ profile was better because of TL. Again, still good and sure, better solo now, but his profile now does less damage into almost everything compared to him+incubi before.

>>96773911
now that modern DA have dropped the native american imagery are there any space marine chapters that have those motifs?

>>96773931
nta, but the 1000 psykers do not power the Astronomicon. You're mixing up things.
They're fed to the Golden Throne and the Emperor to help keep it running.

>>96773951
I wouldn't be surprised if GW decided to not touch upon that kind of imagery
>native american
Such a stupid fucking name.

>>96773945
"emperor's big smart plan" plot is baked in the setting since Big E was created as Leto II Atreides with extra steps.

And it has been canon since pic related more than 20 years ago before the follow up novels.

>>96773971
I'm sure the emperor was always a fedora tipping atheist, yeah, clearly.

>>96773922
not your chud sunwheel

>>96773955
that's my point. He is the one doing it

>>96773984
He was one longer than he wasn't at this point
Unless you haven't engaged with the setting at all for like 30 years

>>96774024
who's the artist

>>96774021
Maybe I should have, is what I'm thinking.

@gork is this true?

>>96774045
By trying to make 10th edition simple using chatGPT*

Which Chapter/Legion would be most likely to still be able to use Saturnine equipment in 40K?

>>96774045
No, this is basically just a commercial. The gameplay wasn't complicated much between editions.

>>96774054
Sallies, UM, Dark Angels, IF and Iron Hands.

what color should I paint the ammo box on his hip? This is the first primaris model I've done in almost 2 years. I don't really edge highlight anything anymore unless it's a small thin part like fingers

>>96774054
None of them, they are all estúpido.

>>96774061
red ammo box with light brown straps

>>96774061
The same as the one on his gun.

>>96771808 (OP)
>TQ
THICC NECK BIRD MEN, although they have grown on me. I think a lot of it is just because of how anemic the army range is in general. Of the "28" units available, 10 come from actual thousand sons kits (and 3 of those are from the same kit), the rest are borrowed from CSM or AoS. Feels like GW just regrets making them an army with how neglected their range is and how sloppily they write (and then re-write, and re-write, and re-write) their rules.

>>96774066
you're saying the crossed lines over the cylindrical piece are straps?? I though it was just all one solid piece...

>>96774080
obviously they're straps, the ammo box on the actual gun doesn't have them.

>>96774045
The rules commentaries and FAQs only exist because of tourneyfags and WAACfags

>>96772006
Electricity = Ki/Chakra/Manna
They should go full weeb e and have them throw chidoris and void dragon palms

>>96773785
i mean just look on the new AoS single dude that is just so much better than whatever 40k got

>>96774123
Isn't one of the questions "Can you deploy outside your deployment zone?" and it isn't regarding infiltrate

>>96774157
>the new AoS single dude
You mean this guy?

>>96774185
so cool...

>>96774185
Boring.

>>96774185
>sculpted eyes
I hate it

>>96771827
can my king chicken get in the collage? I started on it last weekend

>>96774185
If you swapped csm helmet on him and backpack would it fit?

>>96773386
All they'd have to do is rework faith to grant something akin to geneseed and make the SoB more explicitly female space marinesmjktg

>>96774234
What makes this spooky in any way. Also that anon isn't organizing it he's just asking about people's entries.

>>96774240
I'd say give him some cables for good measure and a chainsword and yea
Just artificer armor, who cares

>>96774258
>What makes this spooky in any way
Elf. The foulest of creatures

>>96774240
he got a shield on his back so maybe just eshew the sm backpack entirely

*electrical humming*

>>96774240
>backpack
Might be rough.

>>96774278
So when he puts on the helmet his neck disappears?

>csm specialest dude primarch
>bald nigga
>his son
>bald nigga with red top knot
>other special dude primarch
>a bald nigga with artificial dreads
>ok maybe another one
>a bald nigga
>halfmask dude
>a bald nigga
>sergeant
>a bald nigga
>basic goon
>a bald nigga

>>96773984
The Emperor has only been a "a fedora tipping atheist" once, in a single clumsy short story.
The rest of the time he has always been fighting the warp entities calling themselves "gods", or posing as a religious figure himself to steer humanity in bad times. Because "God" doesn't exist in 40k. There's only evil or alien "gods" besides himself becoming the God Emperor, which he wanted to avoid.

The problem is that before the 2010s there was no need to explain "religion bad" to any sci-fi reader, it has always been baked in the genre since fucking Foundation if not before. But now we have to suffer latecomer delusional chuddies and shills trying to rewrite history

>>96774290
How unfortunate that Fulgrim's luscious locks were not passed down to his legionnaires.

>>96774308
IIRC Lucius had phenomenal hair before he decided to adopt the Killer Croc Chic look.

>>96774290
The more long hair present in a 40k faction the less popular it is

>>96774341
Dang lucius was a qt. Would smash

>>96774343
is this why nobody likes white scars despite being marines?

>Kit has 10 backpacks
>Cut out a piece of them totally unnecessarily so they don't get extra backpacks
Why are they like this.
>>96774343
why aren't GSC the most popular faction then

>>96774349
>why aren't GSC the most popular faction then
Because they aren't also space marines in addition to being bald

>>96774341
John Travolta looking mofo

>>96774349
Lrn2pressmould.

>>96774362
Nope, Belial is the actual 40k Travolta

>>96771832
This thread belongs to BLACKSTAR

Is there a character as breedable as Ahriman?

>>96774157
>>96774185
Do Aosfags have model blindness or something? This model is alright but its like... Chaos Lord with cape and sword #438257681924. Nothing special. I have a feeling that first dude is also a xenosfag because if that were a chaos marine he'd probably be saying the same thing.

>>96774413
Nope

>>96774258
didnt realize it had a prompt like, thought it was just “something we painted this month.” disregard.

>>96774426
>Chaos Lord with cape and sword #438257681924
Do you really want to start this? Half the time most people are just begging, crying and screaming, for more of the same in chaos like red butchers.

>>96774426
the pose mogs the 40k ones though.

>>96774446
Red butchers are not analogous to fantasy's chaos lord with cape. That would be Space Marine captains.

>>96774446
>for more of the same
>like red butchers
zero effort bait

>>96774413
The emperor of mankind

How would you design an RPG where you play as an Eldar?

I kinda think Dark Eldar might be the best starting faction but it would turn a lot of people off.

>>96774444
Nah we vote on a theme every month. Last month was kitbash. This month is spooky. If you wanna see the previous ones we've got them on the 40kg reentry page in the OP

>>96774426
>if that were a chaos marine he'd probably be saying the same thing.
imperium, including space marines, did get cool models in commomerative series before (and plenty other boring dudes) so it's not just hating on it because it's an imperial model

>>96774487
>How would you design a WW2 RPG where you play as the Axis?
>I kinda think Waffen SS Dirlewanger Bridgade would be the best starting faction but it would turn a lot of people off.
DEfags are Unbelievable

>>96771827
Maybe I'll skip this collage. Havent really started painting my Halo Device noble kitbash. My Custodes has been taking my attention lately. I just hate how skulls dont fit the Custodes aesthetics, because I love putting skulls everywhere.
I cant believe pic rel is 700pts, btw.

>>96774501
The reason I thought that is that you could start off as a slave and be given the chance to escape Comorragh somehow or whatever, not because you would automatically accept the DE way

>>96774432
What the hell am I looking at here?

>>96774526
A queen

>>96774519
you can reach comorragh from a craftworld start point and I'm pretty sure that's what happened with Yvraine

>>96774467
We're all fags here, just post the actual Emperor. He's honestly way hotter than this bimbofied anime monster.

>>96774501
There are RPGs where you play as the "bad guys", most World of Darkness games are about you being a literal monster.

Also, if one is the type of mong to want to be a Nazi, they likely want to be one of the most influential and powerful Nazis. So an Axis-themed RPG would almost certainly be SS-focused.

>>96774426
>but its like... Chaos Lord with cape and sword #438257681924. Nothing special
post 3 40k models like that then

>>96774545
The bimbofied anime monster is better and less gay.

>>96774045
I shudder to imagine the level of FAQ that would have been necessary for something like 3rd or 4th edition if it had to suffer the level of tourney-fagging 10th does.

>>96774572
Nta but a good example would be things like pic related.

>>96774648
those are nothing like this chaos dude with the cool cape

>>96773862
Why is this so based? Modern 40k is supposed to be ugly and bad

>>96774545
His pecks are little titish

>>96773097
TCG shit is driven by false scarcity. 40k more or less is available at retail price so it has a cap pretty much. Its a bigger scam than warhammer, which just keeps raising prices because retards keep buying out all their stock no matter how much they charge and they are already producing at MAX capacity.

>>96774660
Thats just what men look like if they work out for aesthetics and arent lardballs. I know everyone in the balkans is skinny fat or overweight though so you have probably never seen it.

Is it true that women love Night Lords?

>>96774675
I live in America you ape

>>96774678
Women are people so they like a lot of factions. More women like the more popular factions, so there are more women playing marines than any other faction.

>>96774432
FtM from Prospero??

>>96774684
So, you're fat?

>>96774684
you sound and act like an ESL slav. but thanks to confirm you are indeed very fat.

>>96774678
>>96774685
when you say women do you mean real women or men in wigs?

>>96774689
What does that have to do with anything? I know what proper pecks look like and in that art piece his tits look like water balloons.

>>96774694
I mean Femcels

>>96774691
I have Croatian/Serb and Scandinavian ancestry. I am peak genetics (To become a Space Marine, so on topic)

>>96774702
50% of space marines are black, sorry. And I realize the balkans are incredibly racist but croatians are pretty far fucking down on the racial tier list as you are like 30% ottoman genetics who are in turn descended form turkic central asian steppe tribes.

>>96774572
Now what

>>96774685
>Women are people
No

>>96774702
>an actual mutant
what a plot twist

>>96774725
Women are people, but (you) aren't.

>>96774732
virgin

>>96774710
He's about to tell you each of those are totally unique from each other and share no design language despite all looking nigh identical

>>96774689
Croatians are actually even fatter than Americans. 36% obesity rate and 71% overweight.

>>96774744
I will say its unfair to put Cypher in there because he literally has different design language but the rest absolutely I agree with your point.

>>96774678
they like kurze, not night lords

same "people" who fawn over true serial killers stories

>>96774762
Aren't Night Lords kind of serial killers too?

>>96774769
if they were true sadists they'd be khorne worshippers

>>96774732
yes

>>96774774
I mean, Drukhari are not Khorne worshippers

>>96772010
God I hate how they kept chaos as mini marines they look so good otherwise. But I know what you mean about left right handed-ness, I hate that too.

>>96774769
fangirls of serial killers don't like the killers when they're faceless
so, no, they only like kurze

>>96773669
>fuckhuge bolt round
>top-break revolver
Fucking britbongs

>>96774774
What? No, sadism is a Slaaneshi trait at best.

>>96774774
sadism is slaaneshi
khorne views anything but pure slaughter as excess

The Masque was once the chief handmaiden and most favored dancer of the god Slaanesh. After a terrible defeat in battle, she attempted to ease the god's humiliation with a dazzling dance, but the enraged Slaanesh perceived her movements as mockery. Slaanesh punishes the Masque, one of its favored dancers, by cursing her to dance for eternity without rest after she perceived her performance as mockery following a humiliating defeat. This eternal dance serves as a testament to Slaanesh's glory, re-enacting its victories for all to see. Her curse is not limited to her; she compels any onlookers to join her eternal, hypnotic pageant until they collapse from exhaustion.

Poor little Masque was just trying to make her master smile again.

>>96774814
>those petty squabbles are supposed to be reflecting eldritch and unknowable horrors
daemons are such a shit faction

>>96774731
>Women are people
No
>but (you) aren't.
Yes

>>96774821
remind me how the traitor legions fell

>>96774814
why are crabs associated with slaanesh

>>96774829
claws are designed only for trapping prey, disecting them and feeding.

spinning skitarii.

>>96774826
how is CSM are relevant? This supposed to be some kind of "own"?
CSM falling doesn't change that daemon fluff on its own is dogshit

>>96774836
How would (you) write a daemon fluff?

>>96774709
Ever heard of Tesla?

>>96774710
are any of these commemorative models

>>96774710
I can halfway count the dark vengeance dude
the others don't do the same thing at all

maybe you're the one with model blindness

AoS has female giants.
How can 40k compeat?

>>96774788
Yea, because they are Khaine worshippers

>>96774829
It's so dumb. Crab claws do nothing to communicate what Slaaneshi deamons are supposed to be. There is nothing particularly deft, bewitching, or sensuous about them. Somebody back in the 80s decided that Daemonettes should look like Blipdoolpoolp from DnD and nobody has decided to revise that design since.

>>96774891
with female giant robots

>>96774891
It doesn't yet

>>96774829
because slaanesh was made up to justify selling a model that was ripping off D&D glabrezu in the olden days
the glabrezu had claws, so the ripoff (the keeper of secrets) had claws, and the lesser demons had claws because they needed to carry some kind of element from the greater demon and claws as weapons did the trick

>>96774906
Already in lore. One is even a main villain of some elf novel. It's actually pretty kino how she's introduced by describing a war horne she blows, how it's as long as 3 elfs are tall, making you think she holds a comically oversized trumpet, only to have her step over the chaos warriors and then tell you she's huge

>>96774732
>cries about women
>posts troon legion
interesting

>>96772023
>>96772039
>>96774780

>>96774648
>>96774572
>>96774710
You guys are missing the point. The Chaos Lord is simple and elegant. Not too dynamic, or overdesigned.
A good 40k example would be the Emperor's Champion. Just simple elegance, no jutting decors, dynamic poses, heavy movement, etc.

>>96774946
the emperor champion is a disgrace in posing and composition

unless you meant the older metal one

>>96772526
>but enough about space marines
sorry I insulted your even more generic xenomorphs :(

>>96774821
Chaos isn't meant to be unknowable, except maybe for Tzeentch. Chaos is just the poor decisions of mortals being reflected in the warp. It's a gross, pathetic thing that destroys everyone that follows it. Psychic parasites that are inherently self-destructive. Chaosfags are in denial about this

>>96774185
>meanwhile

>>96774568
Shoah: The Extermination

The morally grey and complex factions in 40k are the Imperium, Votann, Eldar, and Tau. They take up the spot that a somewhat evil faction would occupy in a different game. Chaos and art the Drukhari are just comically evil and bad, while the Tyranids are monsters. Necrons don't have a clear direction really

>>96774185
He looks fine, very true to the archetype, but he won't turn heads like some of the one-off models of yesteryear.

>>96773931
>>96774004
>retard hasn't even bothered to read the fluff he's complaining about

>>96775021
>he forgot about orks
I'd say Necrons are pretty much in the grey and complex bucket at this point, though heavily tilted towards evil

>>96774895
vices
both human flaws/bad habits and crab claws are called vices (in oldey english), that's literally it

>>96773971
And before that we had this.

>>96775040
I don't know which side of the argument this is, but the Throne psykers are plugged into a coffin as soon as they arrive and are drained to death, while the Astronomican psykers actually get training and just die of exhaustion after a little while

I bought some eschers to pad out my veteran guardsman kill team but they're a bit too coomer-y, even if they look good in gasmasks, any suggestions for female soldiers that look distinctly femenine but don't have high heels?

>>96775066
Post pics of them.

The BL writers' understanding (specifically Laurie Goulding) of what the Emperor's grand plan with the Heresy make him extremely retarded beyond even what Emperor haters think

>>96775055
And his master plan.

>>96775040
>>96775056
That is very old lore anyway. The light of the Astronomicon basically is the emperor at this point. Or something like that, it's left ambiguous.

From Godblight

>How do you perceive the Emperor, when you look into the warp?’

>‘I see no god or man. I see the great light of your beacon. From it comes pain, and suffering,’ said Natasé, uneasy for once. ‘Who can tell if what I see in the light is true? Our lore tells us your master ever was chameleonic. Maybe He is truly dead. Perhaps if you turned off your machines, then the light would die. It is impossible to say. Every thread of the skein that leads to Him is burned to nothing. His path cannot be predicted. He cannot be looked upon directly. Some of my kind maintain that He is the great brake on your species, yet its only shield, that He is the poison to the galaxy that might save us all, that He is not one, but broken, fractured, and properly healed and with His power marshalled again could outmatch the great gods themselves. Others say He is nothing, that the light that burns so painfully over Terra is but an echo of a luminous being long gone. We must judge His worth to our species by inference alone.’


The light of the Astronmicon also burns and daemons/creatures of Chaos. It's essentially the emperor's psychic presence being projected outward.

>>96775088
Marines were plan B, crafted from scraps.

40k sisters?? Our response??!!

>>96774955
I still have no idea what's supposed to be wrong with him. I feel like people are regurgitating what some e-faggots say and consider thie their opinion.

>>96775114
40k sisters? More like marine sisters, I'm pretty happy with my faction's releases

>>96775121
It's a downgrade especially the pose

>>96775114
AoS has to have overdesigned models to get people to buy them and then nobody plays it. 40k actually has an audience that expects to be able to paint their models and have a decent number of them in a reasonable amount of time.

>>96775114
>marines are shit and low effort
Anon we already know that

>>96775114
We have better rules, better lore, and an ethos. AoS is just a modeling team and a marketing team that talk to each other like once a month.

>>96775093
10th edition rulebook is newer. Get fucked.

>>96774920
>Already in lore
No one cares. Show me the models.

>>96775114
>two marine models, an inquisitor and a votann
when was the last time there was any significant complaint for a chaos or xenos release?

>>96775150
>any significant complaint for a chaos or xenos release?
let's see
people hated
>eightbound
>jakhals
>goremongers
>tzaangors
>tzaanbots
>flawless blades
>tormentors/infractors
>lucius
>new chaos jump lord
>new cultists
>the new dark eldar release and half-squatting
>the taller votann robots
>the kroot release

So are they finally going to commit to splitting the daemons into the 4 deity legions or will daemons continue to be in a weird limbo spot for 11th?

>>96775143
There's no need to be so hostile. To be clear, the emperor being fed psykers via the golden throne is an entirely separate thing. It's not related to the astronomicon except insofar as what he is doing with it is one of the things that he has to use his power for.

Exactly what's going with the emperor directing the astronomicon isn't clear, which is what I was saying before. His presence can clearly be felt in it, which is why it burns daemons and his pain can be felt when you look at it in the warp.

>>96775135
40k is no different. Its just the models are too bland for the gribble bits to be showed off.

>>96775123
It's pretty much the same.

>>96775164
>the new dark eldar release and half-squatting
>the taller votann robots
>the kroot release
People were fine with the Deldar models we did get, did people really hate the steeljacks and kroot? Don't remember that happening

>>96775150
Only eldar really had a decent release for xenos. well I guess nids too but I personally fucking hated painted them.

>>96775143
To be fair the golden throne sacrifices are also called a choir sometimes too

>>96775191
people hate the new archon, they're only okay with lady whatever
people were crying that steeljacks were taller
and every taufag was upset that their releases this edition were wasted on auxiliaries

>>96775191
People wanted tau to get more shitty looking mechs.

>>96775191
He's a schizo basing this on the opinions of this thread (his own) and projecring them on the community.

>>96775201
>people
>every taufag
You're really a schizo.

>>96775205
>>96775213
calm down, you don't have to personally agree with those takes just because they're the majority opinion :)

>>96775201
>people hate the new archon
Most were talking how much better it was than the old archon though?

What are the odds of having Crimson Fists and someone calling them
>nice ultramarines you got there faggot

>>96775114
All that detail makes them easier to paint and look good, I like seeing our pro painters make their simple Marines into works of art.

>>96775082
They've been on my backlog for the longest time because I'm still not convinced about them

>>96775227
minimal unless they're an outsider who doesn't know about the setting

>>96775227
In person, low
On /tg/, now that you've said it extremely high

>tgw even craftworld models are too detailed and take me over 9000 hours a model
Why am I so slow?

>>96775201
No, the new archon is great, the old one was complete shit to the point everyone kitbashed their archons

>>96775216
>:)
Kys, shitposter.

>>96775227
>What are the odds of having Crimson Fists and someone calling them
>>nice ultramarines you got there faggot
I don't this all the time but I call every Space Marines as Ultramarines.

>go to LGS to pick up paint
>see two women(female) playing nids vs drukhari
>chat for a while and find out they are both newish
>get invited to join my local women's wargaming group

i didnt know so many other women played warhams but this was a pleasant surprise

>>96775304
Lying? On the internet?

>>96775304
There are loads of women into Warhammer, you can tell because they have the worst fucking tastes in armies.
>Ohh cool, a game where I can be a holy crusader to a corpse-god, a demonic entity, the remnants of a vast but long-gone empire, or an emerging new empire with hopeful ideals
>...
>Instead of those choices I'll play fucking bugs

>>96775352
Nids aren't even bugs.

>>96775337
It's the ultras attention whore. Of course she's lying.

>>96775365
holy rent free

>>96775352
what does the SoB/nids main armies tell about a certain chick? my guess is borderline something

>>96775352
stop trying to make me think women are based

>>96775374
mentally ill femcels, you mean

>>96775372
men have train autism, women have dinosaur autism, get with the times.

>>96775304
There are two women at my LGS who play frequently as well. It is probably not as uncommon as people think.

>>96775352
nids are cool tho, SUPER fun to paint for me. I admit deathguard will always be my true love tho

>>96775383
Every kid under 5 has both, I promise you

>>96775114
>wanting gook mmo super busy models
Its already bad enough in 40k, why would I want it even worse in another game?

>>96775055
>>96775088
>>96775098
These bits from Realms of Chaos weren't really retconned, they just were contextualized and expanded. A lot of it it's still literal canon.

You're just coping because GW authors vision of their own creation doesn't match your outsider, out of touch headcanon-

>>96775439
The gooks are based, the japs are the ones that are becoming gay.

>>96775337
going to a game store and meeting other women is lying ? what are you high ?

>>96775451
Gooks are japs fucking retard. You mean to say chinks.

>>96775464
no they aren't retard

>>96775458
>m.jpg
Lurk moar

>received my drukhari box the other day
>one of the bits from the new archon fell off the sprue in the box

Im gonna build the model tonight so I dont lose the piece but Im a bit panicking cause I havent nailed down how I wanna base it and everything yet. I didnt expect to have to get started already.

Any suggestions, what sort of floor style should I go for? Ideas for something that fits a circus?

>>96775114
AOS/Old world would be even more dead if we had 40k skaven.

i think i would enjoy this hobby better if i was honest with myself that i'm probably never going to play the actual game again and just build models i find cool, which it to say switch to epic scale

>>96775114
I think it would be fairer to compare centerpiece models to centerpiece models, and infantry heroes to infantry heroes.

>>96775114
carnac you need to be less of a gross brown tranny

which space marine detachment uses basic terminators the best?

I'm trying to work on my minis after a year of not doing it

>>96775502
You're really bad at pretending to be edgecoc he loves trannies

>>96775526
Show the class

>>96775491
you are in good company then, GW themselves market themselves as a model painting company.

the proportion of the audience who actually plays the game is small. I may try it when i have a 2k army but atm im happy just painting my models.

>>96775352
>wanting to fight for a corpse or empires that don’t give a fuck about their people
>the alternatives are playing eldritch horror or pirate murderfuckers
They’re right

Im an OK painter, but iv kinda given up on the idea that I'll ever actually play the game itself , because of work and family life schedule , painting a full 2k point army to an acceptable quality takes me literally a year and a half.

>>96775537
i guess i convinced myself decades ago to collect warhammer since there's an actual game for it as opposed to just building model kits or gundams
but really that's a lie and i'm just collecting models for the sake of collecting models

>>96775491
Paint your models and set up a 1k game with yourself, you will find it so much fun you will get friends and family into it and start playing even more!

>>96775008
>AoS counterpart is a bald blind lady who couldn't afford plate armor to cover her midriff

>>96775563
>Paint your models and set up a 1k game with yourself
I know those games you posted were never real lmao

>>96775483
Do you have a paint scheme in mind? I would pick a simple basing method that either complements or contrasts your scheme depending on how busy it is.

>>96775563
i've got painted armies
i'm just a friendless sperg worried about spraying spaghetti everywhere
i haven't played a game in over fifteen years

>>96775580
Grim

>>96775570
Have you never practiced small skirmishes alone? I play regularly with peeps but I also like to practice.

>>96775231
You used Escher bodies for these, right?
I think the biggest issue with them is that the legs feel bit too lanky compared to their arms.
so I guess the best way to try fix them is trying to make the arms more proportional to the bodies.

>>96775569
stop making me want to like stormcast.

>>96775121
The old model has an elegant, purposeful stride towards his enemy, sword raised to the heavens.

The new one has a generic akimbo pose. Like a glorified lieutenant.

>>96775464
No they aren’t, Anon. Gooks are Koreans.

>>96775440
Trying a little hard there buddy.

>>96775575
>Do you have a paint scheme in mind?
Not decided on a full paint scheme, but the idea that I came up with and really want to go with is that I want to make Harlequin-type Drukhari. So colorful, diamond/heart/card patterns, clown-type colors etc.