Thread 96776192

>Someone in my LGS wants to run a Pathfinder campaign
>Decide to look into the system before I join
>Look at the classes
>Fighter
>Fighter that gets mad
>Fighter that smites
>Fighter mixed with druid
>Fighter mixed with rogue
>Fighter mixed with rogue but different
>Fighter with magic
>Fighter that punches
>Fighter that punches but different
>Fighter that gets mad but with magic
>Fighter with a gun
>Fighter mixed with bard
>Fighter but on a horse

I thought Pathfinder was supposed to be all about having loads of customization?

>>96776192 (OP)
>Game about combat
>Every class fights
What's actually the problem here?

>>96776192 (OP)
>>96776668
But seriously speaking, I will tell you, the bulk of the customizability you're looking for comes through feats.

Assuming you're used to 5e, in 5e, your Champion Fighter is GUARANTEED to have exactly the same features as every other Champion Fighter. You get some choices to differentiate yourself, such as your fighting style or the artisan's tools I think Champion Fighters get to pick, but it's not much compared to Pathfinder.

Same goes for races/ancestries. There's a TON of ancestry feats in Pathfinder. In D&D, your tiefling will be exactly identical to every other tiefling, but in Pathfinder your tiefling might be descended from a devil or a rakshasa, and those differences will allow you to pick up different abilities later on. 2 tieflings in the same party very likely won't be the same, and in Pathfinder tiefling is a heritage and not a race like D&D, so you can get elf, dwarf, human etc. traits on a tiefling as well.

dnd:
>player: "i fire bolt the bush that the goblins are hiding in"
>dm: "the bush bursts into flame and the goblins jump out into the open!"
pathfinder:
>player: "i fire bolt the bush that the goblins are hiding in"
>dm: "the bush has a Flammability Rating of 2, and 4 hp. it rained... (consults Climate Table, rolls 2d6) five days ago so it retains a +0 resistance. I hope you took the Firestarter feat"

>>96776755
This is true

>>96776192 (OP)
>customization
You get to be 5-10% better at some things, or do them 30-50% faster, but only if you trawl through the 200 level 1 feats available on the wiki to do it and get your nuts slapped if you dare take them out of order because something else was going to also give you that feat later. Its mostly a miserable experience where the optimal path is both trivially easy to find, still largely inconsistent, and also massively inconvenient to wrestle out of the feat system and action economy.

>>96776192 (OP)
Ok? So what? Why are you telling us? If you have a problem with pathfinder, take it up with the designers. No one here cares about you or your problems. 4chan isn't a chatroom or a blog.

Rolled 14 (1d20)

*rolls to decapitate OP*

>>96786008
You hit and kill him immediately. Roll 2d6 to figure out how many liters of semen you loot from his stomach.

>>96776192 (OP)
>I checked 3.PF autism and turns out it's autistic
Shocker!

Rolled 6, 4 = 10 (2d6)

>>96787734
Uhhh no. I'll just uhhh...
*rolls to fart in OP's decapitated head's face*

Rolled 3, 3 = 6 (2d6)

>>96789501
Rolling 2d6 to determine greasiness, and potency of the pepperoni smell

>>96790004
What is this pepperoni fart nonsense I've been seeing lately?
I eat pizza all the time an have no idea what the hell you guys are talking about, are you just eating entire packs of 'ronis?

>>96790017
It's a reference to a guy who shitposts it to respond to spam threads of dubious topicality.

>>96790019
But again, I've never had "pepperoni" farts.

>>96786008
Do you have the 'Decapitate Faggots' feat, anon?

>>96776192 (OP)
PF classes have no identity themselves. All of their identity comes from Feats. Which, really, why isn't PF2E classless at this point? It's got all the mechanics of a classless RPG without being a classless RPG.