Thread 96807792

I know it's been like this for a while but goddamn. Old WOD was awesome and even hardcore to some fans. But TTRPG's in general seems to have been striped of it's edge and is now attracting someone of the most cringe inducing players. I used to think it was good thing that TTRPG's are gaining traction and still do but man....I dunno maybe I'm just the weirdo.

INb4
It's reddit fuck off.

>>96807792 (OP)
It's reddit fuck off.

Maybe I'm making to big a deal, but why RP as an Autistic Gangrel? I guess I'm just kinda sad that VTM attracts lots LGBT types and it's kinda hard to find a game with cool players and even harder to find a cool ST. I'm ALWAYS having to ST cause everyone wants to play but no one wants to ST.

Thanks for reading by blog

The great thing about RPGs is that nobody's forcing you to play the newest version. Unlike live service slop, tabletop slop lets you curate and gatekeep your group as much as you want. So, if you keep this person(?) out of your group and don't allow people that upset you in the same way, you should be good!

You might get yelled at online, but fuck 'em, play the game you want to play.

>>96807792 (OP)
>GUYZ YOU HAVE TO GET MAD OVER HOW OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS OTHER WEBSITE PLAY THE SUPER SERIOUS VAMPIRE SUPERHERO GAME

>>96807867
This but unironically.

assuming VTM ever releases another VTM game, it'll be ever worse than V5 because we failed at gatekeep troons. But you gotta give them credit, the Tzimisce are resilient if anything.

>>96807839
The point is they aren't RPing anything at all, it's just them, they're "playing" themselves.

>>96807961
yea, it's kinda funny and sad. You could be anything, but you play an autist....

>>96807837
FPBP
Your daily reminder that OP can't inb4.

>>96807839
>implying not all gangrel are autistic anyway

You're shocked at the extremely liberal game by the extremely liberal developers have attracted extremely liberal players posting on an extremely liberal site?

Are you retarded?

>>96807792 (OP)
>plebbit
Yes, opinions of plebbitors and everything they do is dogshit. That's like going to India and being surprised that air smells of faeces.

>>96807792 (OP)
Now I've never played myself but I thought VtM was literally always just made up of narcistic weirdo fags? That's why I never played, this seems pretty par for the course as far as what I'd expect a VtM player to do.

>>96807844
>Unlike live service slop, tabletop slop
You can always open up a private server

>>96807837
fpbp

>>96808094
World of darkness is far right
maybe you were thinking of daggerheart

>>96808094
>an extremely liberal site?
Plebbitors are not liberals. They are mindless drones. That's even incorporated into website iconography.

>>96807961
I mean, if a straight white guy makes a vampire that's just him with another name I won't get angry either. Many people do that, the main issue I detect when it happens is that they take things that happen in game way more personally.

>>96807792 (OP)
>VtM
>Players are weird social outcast types
Who is surprised by this?

>>96807792 (OP)
Oh hey look its a lamer Beckett.

>>96808142
Have you never read Werewolf? Especially 90's werewolf?

>>96807792 (OP)
>striped
lol

First and second edition VTM was awesome and edgy. stop it with the revisionist history.

>>96807792 (OP)
I actually don't care. Why should I be bothered by some lesbian vampire on reddit?

>>96807867
So then, why was it okay for the type of people like those featured in OP to get mad about how they perceived other people played their games in the old days and force a bunch of changes to the hobby as a whole?
Judge not lest ye be judged.

>>96807839
Vampires have always been queer-coded.

>>96808284
Oh, I didn't know that some rando on Reddit was in charge of the Vampire IP. That's crazy when did that happen.

>>96808283
that's the amazing thing about the internet. all you need to do is walk away and suddenly the problems evaporate. reddit in particular is nothing but a collection of infuriating but meaningless stories meant to hook emotional busybodies

>>96808142
Sure man, the AIDS allegory is far right.

>>96808304
Wrong. It was a way for neckbeards with vivid fantasies to RP as chad or go full murder hobo as the Sabbat or a mix of both, Fags joining in was just a by product of the inclusive table top space

>>96808444
Vampire is not an AIDS allegory

>>96808464
This is from the first edition book.

>>96808497
ok, anon.....*sigh*

Vampires spreading diseases through the Kiss has been a thing for many editions. It almost wiped out the Sabbat entirely. Vampire is a lot of things, and I'll even concede and lump in the AIDS allegory cause it can if you really want it to, be seen as that.

But VTM is alot more than that, and it's why it's my favorite TTRPG next to shadowrun

>>96808566
>But VTM is alot more than that, and it's why it's my favorite TTRPG next to shadowrun
It's your favourite because you have HIV, and will one day have AIDS.

>>96808566
Is whoever, not far right, since the very inception is to opposed to the establishment and the traditional ways. Old vampires are your enemies, the traditions are old and suffocating, the 90's bring a new world they can't understand with their tech and punk, and now it's your chance to change the system or die trying.

>>96808497
1- That's not what allegory means.
2- Vampires can transmit all sort of illness, not only AIDS.

>>96808591
VtM was "think for yourself" rejection of any authoritarian bullshit

>>96808709
It was all about the counter-culture of their time, you can see it in the magazines.

eh... live and let unlive

or something

>>96808453
one of the foundational works for modern vampires, Carmilla, is about a female vampire with vampirism as a pretty blatant metaphor for having taboo relationships with other women. this was published decades before Dracula was written.
VtM may have been written for neckbeards but vampires are for fags so it's not surprising that its attracted them to the fanbase

>>96807837
fpbp

>>96808756
The Vampire Chronicles as well, all the 3 books released at the time were at the recommended reading in the manual.

>>96808324
Consider learning how to read.

>>96808730
and counter-culture was also rejection of authoritarian bullshit

There is nothing wrong with Reddit.

>>96808730
>Scalie with a lesbian haircut
DEI shit has to be stopped. They're killing us bros.

>>96807792 (OP)
>Dislikes inaccuracy
Oh dear. She probably thinks Snape should be played by a white actor. What a racist

>>96808888
You're claiming "a bunch of people like OP" "forced their way into the hobby to change things." So, these must be the people who bought the IP, right, in order to "force these changes" that you don't like?

>>96808970
There's fucking plenty wrong with Reddit you retard. Thing number one being I would be banned for calling you a retard, which you are, retard.

>>96808756
Hey is the "VtM is for fags" schizo! Long time no see. Your mom forgot the pills again it seems

Vampire was and still (barely though) is an edgy TTRPG first and foremost

>>96808971
Omae wa mou shinderu.

>>96807792 (OP)
>Gangrel ecologist

Drain all corporate officers. Then move to upper management, then middle management, and then if there are none of those left, enter torpor to await the day that there are once again deserving managers and corporate officers to drain.

>>96808970
Except that it is provably a ideologically captured platform full of bots
Just like 4chan

>>96810067
Wonder how many bots we're actually talking to.

>>96807792 (OP)
If you don’t like the cut of someone’s jib you don’t have to play with them or include them in your games.
The best excuse as a dm that hasn’t failed me yet is saying “I can’t handle more players.”
It works because I manage three players already.

>>96807792 (OP)
If your players do this kind of thing you should talk to them about making a character that's darker, not whine about muh culture war. Trannies and fags are people too and most of them irl are pretty reasonable.

>>96808591
>Is whoever, not far right, since the very inception is to opposed to the establishment and the traditional ways.
The far right is very hostile to the establishment, and quite selective regarding what "traditional ways" they want to "return" to (ie against the current "traditional ways" in favour of some often cherry-picked, misinterpreted, or just plain invented "traditional ways")

Honestly, the most far right behaving faction in WoD is honstly the werewolves, which can be seen as an ironic coincidence or as a, heh, dog-whistle.

>>96810682
If you talk to the player this character can work, specially if it's a "fall into darkness and the beast" type of chronicle that focus on the Hierarchy of Sins.

>>96807792 (OP)
I'm going to be brutally honest with people.

As someone who used to do freeform RP back on AOL chatrooms, I think it was always this way. All that changed is the accessibility of pumping out this one weird artstyle and terms to put to what people were already doing. WoD particularly was popular in the community, and the people don't feel that different.

>>96810682
This is the right answer.

>>96807792 (OP)
It's been like this since the 90s

>>96810923
LOL no. first and second edition were the shit and felt like blade. TTRPG's in general just kinda suck now. They've been pussyfied

>>96810923
>>96810939
If he's like me, he means the people are the same. It's all the same. No one had the weird woke uniform and uniform art style or widely available art tools, but all the people are the same.

>>96810682
>Trannies and fags are people too and most of them irl are pretty reasonable.
Meanwhile in reality...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb6OpRfyLFo

>>96808304
Gothic Horror Vampire Lit was an allegory for heterosexual grape. What are you talking about?

>>96808566
I don't think you know what an allegory is.

>>96807792 (OP)
>This is a dark and morose game about being turned into a monstrous abomination that feeds on life and turns it into supernatural abilities that allow you to be a better monster who is now forced into a mafia-esque lifestyle of petty politics, back stabbing, and lots of killing
>zomg lets go to the coffee shop at night and talk about our feelings and hobbies uwu

>>96810682
>Trannies and fags are people too and most of them irl are pretty reasonable.
I've met reasonable fags but Trannies are amongst the most unreasonable people on planet earth.

>>96807837
We have frequent reddit crossposting now, like puckee's commission spam

>>96808189
Ecoterrorism isn't liberal anymore. The Overton window shifted. Old WoD Werewolfs would be burning India to the ground right now. W5 werewolves would be saying how wonderful & rich their culture is.

>>96811196
>Old WoD Werewolfs would be burning India to the ground right now
Wife I love furries now?

>>96810682
People with a mental illness ar ethe opposite of reasonable. I'm okay with fags & dykes, but only if they aren't the indoctrinated kind

>>96811211
Just think about how many Banes & Fomori are created in India. They wouldn't even see them as mutations either

>>96810956
clips of passing trannies don't exactly go viral

>>96811254
Can't go viral if they don't exist. :^)

>>96810993
OP here. This comment right here captures what I've been trying to explain this whole thread!

>>96807792 (OP)
Why are the fuck are you on reddit?

>>96811787
let's not pretend we switch alternate between the two anon

>>96807844
>nobody's forcing you to play the newest version
This is a cope, most people play the newest slop, making recruiting for older versions a lot harder, especially if there's been propaganda about older editions being icky and problematic (which WOTC, Paradox, and whoever does RQ now have all done). Tabletop is not a closed ecosystem.

>>96811003
You are literally the only creature that gives a shit about puckee to the point where I know of at least two people other than him that posts his art now.

>>96808156
Po-tay-to, po-tot-o.

>>96807792 (OP)
>Doesn't actually play so have to go online to find examples of why "current stuff bad"

>>96811993
>The enemy is all mindless drones, because my daddies told me so!

>>96811196
>Ecoterrorism isn't liberal anymore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Blow_Up_a_Pipeline

>>96812160
Leftists today don't do that. They support the corpos now because the corpos put on rainbow flags. The leftists bully the fiscal liberals because they DONT care about the rainbow flags. Hell they made a new rainbow flag because the rainbow was apparently not liberal enough. Used to be thar the liberals & the conservatives wanted the same thing, just different ways of going about it. Now it's all fractured & fucked up & leftists are both hyper extreme yet also publicly supported by the wealthy elites that they should be fighting against.

I mean, these fuckers would rather glue themselves to the road & burn Seattle to the ground to protecting criminals & to protest the president than they care about chocolate companies employing slaves overseas, or murderers & rapists being punished. Like seriously, imagine if the Crow was made for today's liberals. Draven would just forgave the gang that raped & murdered his fiancee & instead he murdered all the cops because they tried to arrest the criminals on Devil's Night. It's fucking vile. You'd have Eric sitting in a coffee shop about organizing a communist rally to free ICE detainees instead of stopping Top Dollar.

>>96812242
I think you might be a little too glued to the culture war to know what the people on the ground actually believe.

>>96809060
They forced companies to change what they personally didn't like, and often made baseless accusations for things that never actually happened.
When they whined about "being excluded", a number of modules were changed; Curse of Strahd being one of the more famous examples.
When they whined about racism, they began an upheaval to alignment, to make it so races couldn't be always-evil while pushing some narrative that such things are boring for stories anyway.
Look at all the sensitivity warnings and preambles written in the foreword of all TTRPGs in the past decades, all of the "safety tools" that have been created, as if a bunch of lame, geeky chucklefucks sitting at a table throwing dice has any sort of danger involved.
It was okay for these changes (and many more I didn't list) to be made from whining and pitching fits, to be encouraged from numerous online articles using smear tactics about things that weren't even going on in the hobby, but one person on an underwater basketweaving forum expressing distaste for how the hobby has ended up is just too much for you to handle. It was okay for them to whine and lie to have companies bend the knee for them, but it's not okay to be dissatisfied with it? Actually fuck off, you shriveled meat cabbage.

>>96812242
I generally agree with your point. However
>to protest the president
>they care about chocolate companies employing slaves overseas
>ICE detainees instead of stopping Top Dollar.
These things are not contradictory. Opposing fascist bullshit and "we got you because you're brown/yellow/red" is logical.

>>96812259
They "forced" them too? How?

>>96812323
It's not fascist to arrest criminals that are an active detriment to the people. Not even in a contrived way like "we outlawed books, anyone caught reading is to be imprisoned" false equivalency.

These people vandalize teslas, a theoretically eco friendly car because of the dipshit who runs the company, but don't give a shit about solar panels being filled with toxic components. Or about the child labor involved in their smart phones, or the chocolate bars being made by literal slaves. These people don't actually care about liberal policies. It's just a religion to them. They follow the herd. They are more comformist in thought & action that the Right. They would bulldoze a national park to make government housing. They have very little to do with 80s-90s liberals. They just act like what was considered liberal (old definition) then, its an excuse to say "it was always liberal (new definition)" They literally don't hold the same values, hence why they rape the lore

>>96812365
So you're complaining about today people don't doing anything against the system but crying if they vandalize some shit Tesla from a retarded billionaire corpo? That's contradictory. And being brown or protesting are not crimes

>>96812365
Nigga they rounded up a Bhutanese church in my city because one guy had a traffic ticket and they’re mad Bhutan’s tourism visa costs money.

>>96811765
>>96810993

Yes, the system still means the player needs to face the Beast every night. I have no idea how their sessions look like but I assume that the character has to face the darkness of accidentally killing someone by feeding eventually. That's the joke, everyone starts human, but once they get Embraced they start doing things they never imagine.

>>96807792 (OP)
Anon, that type of person was literally always the WoD audience: self-important pretentious lefties attention whores. They just used to dress I'm black rather than pastel.

>>96813262
>Yes, the system still means the player needs to face the Beast every night. I have no idea how their sessions look like but I assume that the character has to face the darkness of accidentally killing someone by feeding eventually. That's the joke, everyone starts human, but once they get Embraced they start doing things they never imagine.
I seriously doubt they do or are going to in this persons game. I doubt the Beast has even been mentioned once in their setting unless it was for cheap drama or an excuse for them to do some evil shit they already desired to do.
What they'll do instead is engage in heckin' quirky adventures against mean ol' racist Hunters while being gaaaaaaaaay and faaaaaaaaaaaaabulous!
A slice of life, rather than a horror.

You or I look at Vampire as a game about what it means to truly be human, because we are humans first and foremost, we have known loss, failure, hunger, want for things we can't have, yearning and so on.
These people are soft and overindulged enough that they never even consider the human condition. They are children, with all the selfishness, casual cruelty and innocence of the worlds wickedness that implies.
To them the greatest conceivable suffering isn't slowly losing your grasp on all you care about in the face of the endless hunger and having your carefully built self-perceptions torn away unwillingly revealing what you truly are, no longer a person, but a coward, a parasite, a scavenger that feeds on them, that survives by the deaths of them and, when it comes to the crunch, doesn't give a fuck about them if it means another day clinging to the underside of the world by the tips of its fingernails, but rather being outside of shambling distance of a Starbucks.

>>96812242
Are you only able to process the world through references to Hollywood slop?

>>96811804
Maybe you should go back there and stay there.

>>96807792 (OP)
WoD was always "alt".
It's just that what is "alt" is lame and gay now instead of dark and mysterious like it was before.
If WoD survives another 15-20 years, look in again and see what changed.

>>96808142
Based retard

>>96813364
>innocence of the worlds wickedness
The only innocent one here is you. These "people" (I will not insult actual human beings by associating leftists with them) are some of the cruelest, most openly sadistic, most enthusiatically malicious sons of bitches alive. Just listen to them talk about children. Listen to them when they say what they'd like to do with their political opponents. Look what they do when they believe they can get away with it.

>>96813457
>The only innocent one here is you. These "people" (I will not insult actual human beings by associating leftists with them) are some of the cruelest, most openly sadistic, most enthusiatically malicious sons of bitches alive. Just listen to them talk about children. Listen to them when they say what they'd like to do with their political opponents. Look what they do when they believe they can get away with it.
Read the words about 2-3 before that one, retard.
When I say innocence I mean it in the actual sense of the word; a lack of guilt, rather than a lack of having done terrible things.
They will do the most heinous shit to the most undeserving people and not even consider that they're hurting someone.
Think Peter Pan, the eternal manchild, rather than anything virtuous or good.

>>96811833
Anon is arguing in bad faith and encouraging people to isolate themselves from the wider culture so “his” DnD isn’t disrupted by threats to the status quo.

>>96812244
Not him, but I’ve heard boomers and average middle-aged schlubs talk about the culture war. Their view of it is unrefined by 4chan standards but a lot of it really does boil down to, “I’m sick and tired of these liberals being moral busybodies who make life worse for everyone else.” It’s fascinating because, up until the 2014s, liberals were supposed to be the “young and hip” ideology, not the stodgy fundamentalist establishment.

>>96809645
Brother, I was the only straight person playing WoD in my city in 2003. Literally everyone who played Wordat my LGS trooned out or got gay married, except me. Samantha might call her self straight, but her “husband” has a vagina and thinks she’s a male werewolf.

>>96813364
>>96813457
>>96813504
You two seem to be projecting a bit too much.

>>96813569
It sounds like they’re talking from experience, which is far more valuable than the quaint pontificating about social mores that other people are doing.0

>>96813583
They wrote a fanfic about a random person they don't know, that's not normal.

>>96813623
Well yeah I wouldn’t exactly call those things, “people.” It’s still valid.

>>96813569
>I am rubber, you are glue, you're made of peepee and smell of poo
Very compelling argument you've got there.
And to underline my point, have a classic, borderline Platonic Ideal, example that illustrates my point;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRasOrIoYQ

On one side you have a man who has suffered a great loss and wishes to try and understand it, to make sense of the world around him and his grief and who, faced with undeserved and unyielding hostility from another in what's for him an emotionally vulnerable moment isn't angry, he's just tired, because there are worse things than being called scum and he's experienced some of them.
On the other you have a womanchild who doesn't understand or care about what happened to the other, who is having a tantrum over not getting her immediate desire for the bad thing that has her upset going away forever :(
One of these people would be capable of playing a vampire.
The other one would make the quirkychungus of OP and call it a vampire.
>B-but that person didn't make this character
Your ancestors suffered, bred and died for untold aeons to give you the capacity for basic pattern recognition, try using it occasionally.

>>96807792 (OP)
>People are playing characters that I DON'T LIKE
>In campaigns that I DON'T PLAY
>And that makes me MAD AS HELL

Christ you sorts are all kinds of fuckoff annoying.
There is nothing about someone's character who you will never meet that prevents you from enjoying the game.

/pol/ invaders get saged.

>>96813697
>Stop talking about THINGS I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT >:(
There's other threads on this board, how about you fuck off to them instead of throwing a wobbly in this one?

>>96813558
Maybe you've just always hung out with freaks, anon

>>96813715
No, because you're not only an off-topic shitter but the whole point is spreading propaganda. No one cares to bend the ear to your shitty attempts at propaganda.
No one cares to take the side of a the screaming nerd who can't handle people "being different" at the other gaming table.

You're a failure with the emotional qualities of a fucking infant and most people hate your guts.

>>96807792 (OP)
The art style is too cutesy and bright, but otherwise that character could have come out of 1997.

>>96813758
People can clearly see through your bullshit
>You're a failure with the emotional qualities of a fucking infant and most people hate your guts.
Hilarious coming from a tranny whose parents are eternally disappointed

>>96808709
The Camarilla did nothing wrong. If you're an anarchy "muh freedom" shit with vampire powers you're a walking time bomb and need to be put down like the dog you are before you inevitably fuck everything up for everyone else.

>>96813758
>You can't have topics about things I don't like because I am the adult in the room and will have a seething, mewling, whiny tantrum if you try to do so, consisting of all the insults I can muster.
k

>>96807961
>A leftist creates an idealised self-insert character that's a nature-loving comfort-loving animal-person vampire. This is bad.
>A rightoid creates an idealised self-insert character that's a witty and pragmatic and intelligent sorcerer vampire. This is fine.
If I had a nickel for every self-insert Tremere, Tzimisce or Ventrue I've seen from neckbeards, I'd be a very rich man.

>>96813781
Hilarious coming from a 5'9" "ubermensch" whose mere presence causes every vagina in a 100 yard radius to dry faster than the Sahara after a rainstorm.

>>96807792 (OP)
WoD has always been this though.
The weirdest of the weird theater kids playing literallymees, having bad sex with each other, and getting into all sorts of out-of-character drama because they're just THAT fucking spastic.
It might as well be synonymous with White Wolf.

>>96813847
This would hurt more if it wasn't coming from a mentally ill male

>>96807792 (OP)
OP can't inb4 newfag

>>96813846
I once knew a [heavily medicated] schizophrenic who played aself-insert Malkavian. It was a little sad, you could tell that she wished she didn't have to keep her crazy so under control IRL.

>>96813727
If you don’t hang out with freaks, you don’t play WoD, it’s a game for freaks by freaks and it’s never been more mainstream than it is now, because now being a freak is more mainstream than ever.

>>96813697
These people forced out the characters that THEY didnt like, in games THEY didnt play, though. So why cant we do the same?

Remember, youre "not allowed" to have fascist vampires anymore. The Tremere was "too problematic" Etc. Etc. Etc. The left will burn a setting to the ground over their beliefs, but then when a normal person says they don't want shit in a game it suddenly becomes the onerous of the person to mold things to their table. Its a bullshit double standard. Leftists can tolerate dissenting opinions & they become violent at the drop of a hat

>>96813847
You argue like a woman

>>96807792 (OP)
It's her character, the fuck you want? draw HER character??

>>96814386
Okay? But you can still have these things! You can be a fascist and still play Vampire. I'm doing it and nobody has come after me. Likewise, I had the Tremere in my game and that wasn't an issue either. It's a fucking nothingburger.

When they start going after online PLAY spaces, that's when it's an issue; but the thing is, that's just authoritarians in general, whether left or right.

>>96810706
>far right is very hostile to the establishment
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA look at how much Trump and Israeli cock they're sucking

>>96807792 (OP)
I like how she has two copies of the same book, one to put her feet on and the other to read

>>96813364
>I've never experienced or shared a table with these people but I'm gonna come up with elaborate mental constructions based on nothing substantial.

ftfy

>>96814386
Saying doing something is bad and then doing it yourself makes you an hypocrite.

>>96807792 (OP)
>Pic
Stake through the hear followed by sun exposure

>>96814547
I can say these things because I have shared a table with these people and know them rather well.
Can you say the same?

>>96814654
I can say I don't believe or why would you end up in a table were people aggravate you instead of gathering your friends to play.

>>96814654
A) I have and in fact share the table with someone who is trans. They are the second most engaged player who interacts with the world the most.

B) I disbelieve you about playing with these people because you are the kind of person who gets upset when people have fun wrong and can't keep your power level hidden.

>>96814806
I have and in fact share the table with someone who is trans. They are the second most engaged player who interacts with the world the most.
Meanwhile in reality he's a shit-tier player who only ever plays self-inserts and quits inside three sessions because he had a sad, and was in the game in the first place because he's your brother and you forced the rest of the table to have him around.

>>96813697
Hey, this sounds familiar.
>People are playing HETEROSEXUAL WHITE HUMAN FIGHTERS
>In games I DON'T PLAY
>And I FEEL EXCLUDED

That was not only okay, but also invited permanent changes to not just D&D, but gradually other systems over the past decade.
So, why are you butthurt, again? Is it just because it's on a political side you disagree with?

>>96807792 (OP)
VtM has always been plagued by ERP degens and hambeast slampigs on a "Do you Catan?" level.

>>96814677
>>96814806
>I don't believe you, how could you play with such people and not give the game away.
Very easily actually and for the why; because the ones I play with are my friends.
I know that you see the world in black and white but the reality is, Trust fund Cosmopolitans can be good people. They often lack experience in real life or a closeness to suffering because, frankly, their lives lack consequences.
One of my friends is running on 40 and has never held a job she couldn't casually walk away from if she decided she wanted to, because Daddy's money has and will always be there. How do you even start explaining the idea of doing something you don't want to, of getting up day after day because bills gotta be paid, to such a person?
Another did a useless degree, failed it twice, got a retry, bailed on that and rather than facing any consequences now stands to inherit a fair sized business.
They're not people who face consequences in their lives, so why would they know of the suffering that exists outside their little Utopian lives?
Is it the fault of the pet rat that it doesn't know the suffering of the sewer scavenger or the lab rat? Does such ignorance make it a bad rat?

>>96815022
>But, how about this counterfactual that I made up!

>>96812365
>Claims the left are conformist
>While literally just spouting off npc talking points

Very funny.

>>96813457
>Complaining about what your political opponents "claim they'd like to do to their political opponents.
>Right after denying that they are human.

>>96815133
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't mean they're evil, such people can be kind, generous, intelligent, compelling, likeable, humane, decent, wonderful even, if a bit sheltered from the world at large.
Shit, the reason they fall into the kind of crazy batshit they hold dear is often because they are good, sheltered people and have been informed by people who are a bit more worldly and ruthless than they are that these are Good People Things To Believe and know, on some level, their lives are kind of soft and meaningless and want to do and be part of something Real.
But you can only maintain that friendship if you're not identified as tribal opposition, which I might add I'm not because I, and I really doubt you're going to believe this one, can and do leave my politics at the door and can see the person behind the ideology, be friends even with the person behind the ideology.
There's a difference between that though and forgetting what they believe, or how they'd act if it came to a choice between you and their religion.
The reality is that good people can be part of cults, but when it comes down to it, if you're ID'd as a heretic? Make sure they don't know where you work or how to contact your boss, the same way you wouldn't want a Scientologist to have access to such information.
To put it another way, you can be friends with the person, because the person is human and sees you as human.
Just don't forget that the thing that lives inside them isn't and doesn't.

>>96812323
>Opposing fascist bullshit
unrelated to the thread but god am i tired of being told that acknowledging my country's borders exist makes me a fascist.

>>96815022
No one calls Bob the Fighter as offensive, only boring.

>>96815133
What the fuck does that have to do with playing games or making characters? Like, how they play at your table, that's what we want to know.

Leftists:
>we're the side of empathy, compassion and basic human decency :)
Also leftists:
>*painfully and repeatedly electrocute their dog for the sake of scoring cheap clout on social media*

>>96815234
>That attempt to desperately move the goalposts from "I don't believe you, you're a strawman who couldn't function at a table" to "Uuuuh, I never said that, I was asking about their characters."
GG no RE

>>96813846
>A sane actual-gamer creates an interesting character that shares few if any traits with them IRL because the whole fucking point of playing an RPG is to play a role not yourself.
And that's why I don't play with neckbeards or bluehairs, just gamers. You should give a it try one day.

>>96815184
Cool story. But newflash: if you start to imprison people for being brown/asian/being critical of israel including citizens and legal residents of the country you're going to get called a fucking fascist, because you're.

>>96815079
what's "Do you Catan" mean?

yes im a newish fag

>>96814601
So we agree that leftists are hypocrites. Thanks for coming, now please leave

>>96814386
>So why cant we do the same?

So you have no issue with them doing it, you're just mad it's happening to you?

>>96815550
We have 40 million illegal aliens driving housing prices up and wages down and I'm supposed to be against sending them home if the process is at all messy. No thanks, you had your chance and your guys intentionally ramped up the rate at which illegals entered. You can call me your no-no words all you want.

>>96815563
https://edramatica.com/Copypasta/Archive_11

>>96807792 (OP)
My Werewolf group has another player that probably literally attended muh no kings day and he didn’t bat an eye when my character called someone a faggot this week. I feel bad for a lot of groups

>>96815636
Good friendship always transcends that shit, my best friend is a puerto rican that doesn't give a shit when we constantly say slurs and talk about jews being responsible for everything.

>>96815598
>We have 40 million illegal aliens driving housing prices up and wages down and I'm supposed to be against sending them home if the process is at all messy. No thanks, you had your chance and your guys intentionally ramped up the rate at which illegals entered. You can call me your no-no words all you want.
Agreed. The only reason you're throwing around the word fascist is the same reason you've been throwing it around in the past.
It's not that this act is fascist, it's that you think it's Power Word: Stop doing right wing things.

You pushed too far, refused to compromise and now you can get fucked if you think anyone is going to ask your permission or opinion on if we should undo the damage you did.

We're not asking the arsonists permission to put out the fire, no matter how beautiful you think the flames are.

>>96810288
(Heil'd)
About 95% of posting here is bots, shills, or tranny jannies themselves.
Also: all redditors deserve the death penalty.

>>96815598
Illegal aliens aren't the reason why rent is high and wages are low. You're being made a fool.

>>96815936
>having more people doesn't reduce wages or increase housing costs
Even beyond the specifics of their demographics, simply arguing that 10s of millions of people being here when they should not does not have those effects marks you as an ideological zombie that will always put reality after agenda. I won't waste any more words on you, they simply have to go back and I voted for what's happening. Good day.

>>96815250
>Rightoids: we just want to protect the kids?

Also Rightoids: let's lower the minimum age for workers, destroy the public school system, destroy the health care system, destroy SNAP and make sure kids starve, and deny mental health facilities for children.

>Rightoids: we're for the working man!

>Also Rightoids: let's vote people in who consistently fuck over lower and middle class people in order to give tax cuts to their billionaire buddies.

>Rightoids: You shot our guy, political violence is bad!

>Also Rightoids: *commit the lion's share of political violence in the country.

>>96815968
>No facts to back it up, but poppa big business told me they can't pay appropriate wages because of illegals, so it must be true!

Who's the ideological zombie, here?

There is nothing wrong with Reddit.

>>96816033
...during Opposite Day.

>>96815334
No son, the goalpost It was always "you haven't ever play with this people on a table" that's why playing groups and players are mentioned multiple times.

>>96814970
Not only do you not know how to use meme arrows (because you're a retarded tourist faggot) you're also making shit up. How would an Irishman be a brother to a Slav? And he's been in the group for a little under 7 years so that's not true either. You really need to consider a career change and consider working in a movie theater's projection booth.

>>96815133
What the FUCK are you talking about? Why do I give a shit about whether they know what consequences or whatever? If they're your friends then presumably you're on the same wavelength and all the problems as outlined in the OP are entirely in your head. Like I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Also, pic related is how I view your retarded left/right ideology.

>>96815968
Bravo! Well said, fellow MIGApede! G-d will punish those who criticize Israel and thus, Trump is the agent of G-d!

>>96816185
>your candidate serves jews, mine is totally going to stop them!
Grow up, anyone who poses an actual thread to their interests gets Huey Long'd/JFK'd. A president can alleviate some problems but just like throughout all of human history, the actual hard work is going to have to be done by the people. I appreciate trump getting rid of some of our illegals but I have no illusions about him challenging jewish power and you're a retard if you thought any of his opponents would've been any different on that front.

>>96815977
>let's lower the minimum age for workers
Who lowered wages by funneling millions of illegals to do the same job for cheaper and outsourced all industrial jobs to China?

>destroy the public school system
Who fought for decades to lower all educational standards, criminalize disciplining of children and instituted Common Core?

>destroy the health care system
Whose healthcare plan punished people for not being able to afford insurance?

>destroy SNAP and make sure kids starve
Who inflated public spending budgets and then funneled all the money into their own pockets?

>and deny mental health facilities for children.
Molesting and sexually mutilating children is mental healthcare now?

>>96816207
So instead you'll clap like a retard for performative immigrant displacement instead of funding and organizing armed insurrections? Bravo.

>inb4 fed
You'd call the Founding Fathers feds, you fucking limp-wristed, cock-sucking /pol/ack.

>>96815584
"You must let the person attack you, retaliation makes you a hypocrite"

Leftist are oh so reasonable

>>96816227
Speaking purely hypothetically :) the two are not contradictory. I would never call the founding fathers feds, they killed their tyrants and that was a good thing.

>>96816223
>Who lowered wages by funneling millions of illegals to do the same job for cheaper and outsourced all industrial jobs to China
the right wing aka globalists

>Who fought for decades to lower all educational standards,
the right wing aka globalists

>criminalize disciplining of children and instituted Common Core
the left wing aka globalists

>Whose healthcare plan punished people for not being able to afford insurance
the right wing aka globalists

>Who inflated public spending budgets and then funneled all the money into their own pockets?
the right wing and the left wing aka the globalists

>Molesting and sexually mutilating children is mental healthcare now?
Why are you against releasing the Epstein files?

>>96815991
Trucker wages have gone up after the crackdown on literal illiterates being stopped from driving. Trust the science

>>96816230
If you're taking a "we are moral, they are immoral" position, yes, it actually does. You can just be honest and admit that "I like MY authoritarians and hate THEIR authoritarians," but you'll never be enough of a man to admit it.

>>96816264
Disagree on your first point as NAFTA w as clinton jewry but of course I'm being pedantic as you're absolutely right that red team/blue team is just song and dance.

>>96816185
How can we be both Nazi fascists and suck jew cock? That doesnt give you one bit of cognitive dissonance?

>>96815598
>to be against sending them home if the process is at all messy.
Yes, if you chain people like animals and slaves and put them in concentration camps where journalist and elected officials can't access based on their skin color and without due process, you're a fascist. Thanks for admitting you don't give a fuck about the law though.
> housing prices up and wages down
Funny, because the current regime just decided to do the opposite and lower the wages of private, public and legal immigrant workers.
>On March 14, President Donald Trump issued an executive order undoing a Biden-era regulation that raised the minimum wage for private sector workers on federal contracts to $17.75 per hour. That Biden administration rule raised the wages of hundreds of thousands of workers and helped ensure government contractors paid workers a decent wage.
But I bet that wasn't on the grifter Twitter dossier, wasn't it?

>>96816284
>play chess
>opponent starts punching you
>you can punch them back but you can't criticize them for starting a fight
Because you have greeted the use of authoritarianism against me with uproarious applause, I do now indeed fully welcome any tool of the state being used against you to any end.

>>96816292
NAFTA was just one of those agreements. It started in the 70s with Nixon. but yeah it's all horseshit.

>>96816312
>Thanks for admitting you don't give a fuck about the law though.
Drape your agenda in whatever you like, I will support policies that improve the quality of life for the people I care about. You speak out of both sides of your mouth. You'd happily rebel against a law you find immoral. Hart-Cellar was sold to the public with lies because everyone knows what unchecked immigration does to a nation.

>>96816322
If you're both throwing punches than no one its playing chess no more abd you don't get to claim you did nothing wrong. Instead of fixing things you broke the entire board.

>>96816300
It's surprising me too, yet here we are. Right-wingers LOVE Pissrael.

>>96816322
No no no. Don't prevaricate. You're just salty that the libcucks were winning and were pushing their agenda everywhere. It was never about being anti-authoritarian for you, it was about having the right kind of authoritarian in power. You have as much in common with a libertarian as a rock to spaghetti.

>>96816335
No nooo, you just have to vote for the Right™ candidate so they can finally Conserve™ the nation/enact The Progress™ and then you personally won't have to get your hands dirty.

>>96816370
>liberals finally acknowledge jewish tricks
>they immediately claim being critical of jews as having always been their own thing
It's all so tiresome.

>>96816357
nta but I'm not going to roll over and die for an enemy who doesn't even respect me enough to write "Here lies a good man" on my tombstone.
You started it, you were fucking giddy up until the point that we decided we're ending it, please face the wall.

>>96816282
Source, I can't find anything about It.

>>96816396
The fact that you think I'm a liberal is really funny to me, you tranny /pol/ack. I despise authoritarians of any kind. Also, because I'm not a hypocrite, I'm perfectly happy with your destruction, and in fact see it as a desirable outcome. Same applies for the other side.

>>96816357
>straight up admitting "if i attack you and you fight back you can't criticize me for attacking you"
If it's any consolation, I really don't consider this to be your fault. There are always people like you and me and there's always a crisis. Things get better for a while, and then it happens again. We haven't beat the cycle and I don't expect we will any time soon. The 4th turning comes for us as it always has.

>>96807837
OP only has himself to blame for typing this out in his post.

>>96816284
You've failed to grasp the message.

Two people fighting is equal. Two people not fighting is equal. One group fighting & the other group not fighting, is NOT equal. You would seek to disarm your political rivals & cry oppression when they reach for the same knife you weild. When did I advocate for liberals to be silenced despite the venom & hate they speak? You are mentally ill. You see anyone that has different ideas as a villain & worse, you project your own desire of violence on your rivals because you think they are as heartless as you

>>96816412
Liberal is a catch-all, I don't think you actually have any practical values of any kind. Authoritarianism and minarchism all have their times and places, they're answers to different questions. People who think all the races in the world would simply kumbaya if not for the big bad government causing all of the problems in the world are not serious people, they should not be taken seriously, and when they get uppity their deaths should not be mourned.

>>96816357
bros why did ukraine fight back when russia invaded them, they could've just tried to fix things but by fighting back they're exactly the same now...

>>96816343
You went from:
>Akshually, why you call me fascist? This is totally normal and lawful procedure!
To
>Who the fuck cares if it breaks the law? I just want brown people out!
Is proof you don't give a fuck about wages or whatever you're talking about. You just want to support strong man politics and authoritarianism. Irrational cult-like behavior in which you don't care about reality, you only care about hurting the perceived enemy of immigrants/gay people/libtards.

>>96816437
What? That's also retarded. I don't think that at all. The only value that I hold is that "I am the most important person in the world." That's it. Everything else follows from that. I don't want to be surrounded by niggers, libcucks, conservatards, God's Chosen People(tm), "people" with a sub-130 IQ, etc. Anyone who would impose their will on me should not, or die. Expecting kumbaya or any sort of positive interaction out of humans is a goddamn mistake because humans are inherently flawed. The ideal world that I aim towards is Solaria.

>>96816433

>blah blah blah I'm ACTUALLY a good guy and CARE for people around me but I'm being FORCED into being an authoritarian despot and the moment I kill enough people who disagree with me I'll relinquish power
ftfy

BTW, I see no issue with it. Just, y'know. Own it.

>>96816455
>Nuuuuuuuuuuuuu, we brought them in by flaunting the rule of law and thumbed our noses at you the entire time, rubbing your noses in it every chance we could, but you have to do it all extra special super legally or else-
Or else what faglord? Or else you're going to stop playing by the rules?
We're well past the point of respecting "Your Democracy", we've seen what makes you clap like seals and hoot like chimps.
Give me one good reason you get to fight with gloves so weighted with lead that you can barely lift them while we have to fight with both hands tied behind our backs that isn't "Well I got to write the rules and the rules say-"

>>96816506
So I'm right and you're just salty that the wrong types of authoritarians were in power and you want different authoritarians.

kys bootlicker.

>>96816519
Cincinnatus is going to lay you out to rest, then he's going back to farming.
Cope.
Oh and that's without even saying
>Didn't answer the question

>>96816526
>Romaboo
Like clockwork. Sic semper tyrannis.

>>96816477
Wanting the same rights as those that oppress me is not authoritarian or despotic

>>96816343
I've said it before and I'll say it again: you have more in common with a black trans leftist than you do with a billionaire, but you keep voting in the people who are helping the billionaires. You aren't supporting policies that improve the quality of life of the people you care about, you're supporting policies that fuck over the people that are different from you in superficial ways, and you and the people you care about be damned.

>>96808730
Having that magazine cover specifically as an 8 year old boy did stuff to me. The Zeleznik art feature with the space undead dragons was amazing.

>>96816506
>We're well past the point of respecting "Your Democracy"
Lmao. Call me when your CHAMPION OF FREEDOM releases the Epstein files.

>>96816663
Why is it always trump with you dumb fucks?

>>96816663
Kamala and Joe had four whole years to do it. Why haven't they?

>>96816455
>you went from
Never get tired of you people thinking only one person could possibly disagree with you. The time for "normal and lawful procedure" ended sometime during the past 6 decades when immigration law was completely flouted by people who want to replace us with third worlders that will take lower pay and worse living conditions and be grateful for it. And yes, I also support punishing the people who hire those illegals and the politicians who invited them.

>>96816477
>The only value that I hold is that "I am the most important person in the world."
Yes, that's exactly what I said. You don't have any practical values of any kind. You just enjoy pretending you're le above it all on the internet.

>>96816534
>Romaboo
Like fucking Washington was you historically illiterate FAGGOT. Admiring a great Roman does not require being a "romaboo" you stupid nigger.

>>96816534
>Sic semper tyrannis.
Jefferson would opt to nuke the country if he saw quality of man that says this most often these days.

>>96816621
The countries that europeans built and the countries that sub-saharans built are not superficially different. There's no candidates not supporting the billionaires, anyways. You just see the media paint a crosshare on musk and tell you you need to vote for the guy who will further enable gates and buffet, instead, like any of them are different.

>>96808756
>Bram Stoker did to Vampires what The Romans did to Greek Civilization
Even the IRL lore for your clan tells the Cammy to cut their shit. Thanks for confirming (yet again) that Old Clan Tzimisce are the best thing in Vampire, anon!
>>96816534
>The Civilization that gave us the Goths is... le bad!
go away poser.

>>96815250
Hasan is controlled opposition backed by Russian money, of course he's a valueless psychopath

>>96816891
>everything bad is russian
There are only a handful of you left but you always astonish me with the longevity of your delusions.

>>96816913
>Russia can never be responsible for anything, my world is black and white because I am too retarded to conceive of things outside of binaries
He justified the Ukraine intervention in Russia's favor and also denied it would occur while simultaneously vigorously attacking Israel for its own aggression. Even Mearsheimer, who himself is the eminent international relations scholar of the West who functionally defends Russia's behavior of invasion, isn't that blatant of a hypocrite

Is it just coincidental that his behaviour as a fifth columnist in the US also aligns perfectly with what Russia wants, then? Does Hasan do anything more than give lip service to Russia being a bad actor? I assume you, as a good-faith poster, can show me something that'd change my mind. You do intend to change my mind, and not just lower the level of discourse by being a nonce, right?

Man I remember when being edgy on the internet was considered cringe. We should have bullied you faggots more.

>>96817002
Agreed. If thin-skinned leftist faggots had been bullied off the internet early we would be enjoying a much better internet today.

When did /pol/ turn blue?

>>96817002
You mean edgy like thinking industrialized murder of babies is a human right ?

>>96817135
When it was invaded by bots, redditors and bad other faith actors, all of which were enabled at every step of the way by traitorous tranny jannies.

>>96816986
Russia is responsible for tons of stuff, you deranged faggots thinking they're funding everyone in the world that doesn't suck ukraine's cock is simply laughable. Same as the boomers that though putin personally installed trump in 2016.

>>96808566
>*sigh*
You're wrong and a faggot just for that. You're on a fucking computer. Act like it.

>>96816755
I don't remember that being a campaign promise of either of them.

>>96817135
Everyone realized MIGA is a cult of censorious larpers

>>96818120
>Oh yeah? Your guy pretends to care about the little people, while my guy embraces shitting on them openly!
Democracy enjoyers should just be buried in a big hole at this point.

>>96818177
Democracy is a flawed system since it can be game'd by money. That's a reality, but your botching ain't a solution.

>>96818248
Every system is installed to correct the flaws of the previous system until the new system itself becomes unbearably flawed. The fags lionizing democracy because it replaced the old bad instead of noticing that our current system no longer works are just zealots.

>>96807792 (OP)
>What I laik: FOREST!
>What I don't laik: *things that comprises forest*
Barnum personalities are tiresome

>>96816322
Further proof that everyone libright sees themselves as multimillionaires and fortune 500 business owners.

You fell for the largest psyop in human history: You will be rich too.

You will not be one of the rich.
>Ever.

You will never be one of those people. The boot was NEVER AIMED at you; it was aimed at the Bezos' and Musk's asses and faces. Unfortunately for literally everyone in the world, YOU and people LIKE YOU see this as an attack on you for basically no reason just because someone corrected you on your pronoun usage.
The 1950's idolized by the far-right was a time of extreme taxation of the wealthy and gross levels of social support. Lots of paid leave, lots of unions, and lots of benefits.

You are the crab-bucket mentality that destroyed this country.
And I hope you one day come to terms with that.

Sage for off-topic.

>>96818928
Stop shocking your dog.

>>96818928
You are such a faggot. You have compiled all of your perceived enemies neatly into a box of imagined self-interest, because you cannot fathom that someone would disagree with your unimpeachable political ideals. It's not about being rich. I don't expect to be rich. It's about the fact that I'm saddled with two shit political options and the only viable path to actually improving the country is violent revolution.

You level your crosshairs on musk and bezos because you're nothing more than an attack dog. You target the billionaires, whose assets are at the very least companies that produce things and employ people. Bezos owns all the van logistics. Musk builds cards and rocket parts. Buffet owns the trains that move all our shit around. You want to talk about their business practices? You want to talk about pushing living wages and unionization? I'm all for it. I'd love for every single employee those American companies hires to be an AMERICAN and for that American to be paid a fair wage. Guess what? Amazon pushes diversity because it's effect on diminishing coworker bonds and desire to unionize is documented, different people naturally do not get along as well because we are ultimately animals and that's just how it is.

So you hate these men who control billions. Meanwhile, you ignore the JEWISH equity firms that control TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS and produce NOTHING but debt and leverage over politicians. They employ no one but their cousins and nephews that have an even greater thirst to vulture the corpse of this fucking economic zone that used to be a nation. The ONE TIME in recent history you FAGGOTS bothered to look at the banks, they bamboozled you with a hilarious purity spiral by putting rainbow flags over the JP Morgan Chase emblem. This country wasn't destroyed by men individual men who control vastly more wealth than the rest of the country. To an extent, that type of magnate has always existed. The JEWISH banks that fund JEWISH wars

>>96818928
>>96819792
and keep politicians in check with JEWISH AIPAC to prolong the JEWISH state while it engages in a JEWISH genocide and shuts down any criticism by bringing up the supposed genocide of PRECIOUS JEWS 70 years ago destroyed this country because their hatred for non-JEWS is documented in every single fucking thing they've ever written down and displayed in every single fucking action they engage in. They practice in-group preference to a degree that would be considered unbelievable by the greatest believer in the ghostly shackles of white supremacy that supposedly tie down every beloved PoC in this shithole. And you do their JEWISH bidding because you're a stupid fucking golem and spent several months of every year in JEWISH public school learning about the holocaust.

But don't worry, there's always a corretion and if you survive the bad times, you'll be saved to, despite doing their bidding so gleefully for so fucking long.

>b-but it's zionists not all

Hopefully you don't make it.

>>96818282
Carful anon even thought your likely not talking about communism, your sounding a lot like Marx right now.

>>96819948
>muh utopian communes
Nope they'll break down too. I'm incapable of sounding like Marx because I have a fucking job.

>>96819975
Its not that its the
>Every system is installed to correct the flaws of the previous system until the new system itself becomes unbearably flawed.
Thinking
Marx had this whole concept that eventually social contradiction would cause a society to break down and new new come form in tis place with communism eventually following the same path.
Talking about eventual cycles of destruction and evolve3d recreation are Marxist talking points.

>>96816230
Because this isn't self defense anon it's play ttrpgs. Someone or a group of people being an asshole in a hobby space doesn't suddenly mean its okay to be an asshole.

>>96816322
False equivalence. Physical harm can't be compared to being gatekept from a game lol.

>>96818928
>The boot was NEVER AIMED at you
lol
lmao

It's okay to be white.

>>96820026
>marx discovered cycles
Read a book nigger. Society going through cycles is one oldest concepts people have had.

>>96820062
>>96820026
Fucking hell commies are the biggest midwits on earth.

>>96816755
They never claimed to have had them sitting on their desks lol. Further, he didn't "commit suicide" under their watch.

>>96820075
>lol
>it's so funny that the people who had access to all of epstein's materials between trump's two terms did nothing with them lol
>this is somehow a gotcha against trump and not an indictment of our entire rotten fucking political landscape lol
It is a great comfort to me that when things get bad, countless people like you will die.

>>96807792 (OP)
>caring about what other people are doing with their leisure time (local)
>caring about what someone on the internet you're personally unlikely to even encounter (because you aea shutin) does with their leisure time
>with your leisure time

Couldn't be me man
I hope the blue haired fruity patootie crowd has fun
They could stand to blow off some steam
And so could you

>>96810755
Yes but we are all fatter

>>96820109
Stop shocking your dog.

>>96820190
Stop the shock of dogging

>>96810997
this and lesbians

>>96812365
>It's not fascist to arrest criminals that are an active detriment to the people.
Then surely you would have Donald Trump, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and every other billionaire arrested for crimes against humanity.
Also, release the Epstein Files.

>>96819792
>>96819807
We are priests to the nations. You only exist to serve.
Cope and seethe harder. This whole planet belongs to us and there's nothing you can do.

>>96808324
About the time Paradox decided the IP was poison.

>>96820247
Stop shocking your dog.

>>96813846
This is why I always make my self-inserts Lasombra antitribu.
Even more snowflake-y while dodging the usual typecast assumptions (Even though I fit them to a tee)

>>96816322
>you can't criticize them for starting a fight
See, this perspective would make total sense if history started in the year 2012 and no one could remember anything prior to that.
Unfortunately, some of use have been alive for longer than 20 years (Or can simply read) and know how the political right acted when they had the reigns of cultural power prior to the left seizing them. The right did not simply let everyone mind their own business and enjoy whatever they wanted.

>>96821149
Everyone remembers being able to speak alot more freely under them
Was it shit?
Yes
Was it 1-1000th of what we have now?
Yes

>>96820190
>>96820197
>>96820450

What the fuck are you even referencing rightoid? Did some essential oil Facebook mom go viral on /pol/ for abusing a dog whilst having a pride pin on her handbag or something?

>>96822125
Stop shocking your dog and stop molesting children.

>>96822464

You know Google isn't your diseased brain and googling "shocking dog" won't turn up whatever you're referencing right?

>>96820095
Trump is a representation of our rotting political landscape you dumbass

>>96820190
Stop shooting yours

>>96807792 (OP)
>like: forest

lol

>>96822642
>>96822659
Stop shocking your dog.

>>96821149
>history didn't start at your arbitrary point on the line
>it started at MY arbitrary point on the line

>biden admin instructed FEMA to deny aid to disaster survivors based on political stances
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/21/dhs-exposes-how-fema-officials-under-biden-administration-systematically-refused

This thread is beyond saving at this point, and has nothing to do with VtM or any other WhiteWolf game.

>>96823518

True but I would still kinda like to know why some idiot is bringing up dog shocking at everyone even slightly to the left of Hitler.

>>96807792 (OP)
OP wants Underworld edgelord trenchcoat and katana vampires.

Underworld fucking sucked by the way.

>>96823991
It's also a truer representation of WoD than OP's troon shit

>>96823991
Is complaining about powerful vampires the ultimate dogwhistle?

>>96824065
Complaining about cool things is generally the ultimate dog whistle, think about it.
The universal cry of the progress can be boiled down to "This isn't gay and lame enough for me, change it."

>>96824100
>i shouldn't be expected to be above average in any way to be praised
>i should be praised for being exactly the piece of shit that i am
Every cry of "people should be accepted for who they are" reveals itself as that eventually.

>>96824100
Seems like you're right. Every time you see someone complaining about any aspect of power fantasy they're some flavor of unhinged political schizophrenic. Just like the guy above.

>>96824112
If you always search fault (real or imaginary) in others you never have to do self introspection, quite the hack.

>>96823991
You will never be a woman.

>>96816322
reverse the directions and it'll be accurate

>>96812242
>source: dude trust me

>>96824236
>no u
Marvelous

>>96812242
>fiscal
Enough with this faggotry, we've all seen the video that exposes you.

>>96824387
Speaking of >>96822125

this looks like that itch.io game about running a queer progressive brothel with the card game

>>96823991
OP here. Yes. this is what I want. my introduction to VTM was the game Bloodlines. No game has ever captured that feeling, so I try to recreate it with the TTRPG

Oh no. It's too late. These people have all been /pol/iticized. They may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they turn into /pol/acks. This entire thread must be purged.

>>96826949
This is never going to be your home turf and you're always going to meet resistance here. Your ideologies will continue to be shit on in all places where censorship does not protect them. You may now continue pretending not to be upset about that.

>>96826949
You can always join the 41% willingly and spare us the rope.

>>96826964
>>96827402
I can't believe you newfaggots can't recognize a fucking copy-pasta when you see it..........

>>96827417
Who says I didn't recognize it? It's been posted for years, you can keep posting it for years, and you'll continue to fail claiming this place.

>>96815350
>because the whole fucking point of playing an RPG is to play a role not yourself.
The point is to actually play a game and have fun. For many, it's about being yourself in a fantastical setting.

>>96826949
>you know how I know that Arthas isn't /leftypol/?
>because he did nothing wrong.

>>96807837
fpbp

>>96827857
That would be based if they were doing a your highness style silly thing and named their characters after themselves. If they were honest about what they're doing. Everyone does that, most peoples' first or even first few characters in a ttrpg are probably a lot like themselves. Then you have players who cannot do anything but that, because their roleplaying is just wish fulfillment. You can pretend this doesn't happen or that it isn't what we're discussing. It wouldn't be the first time.

>>96807837
FPBP

>right wingers get everything they want all the time over the past 20 years
>even when democrats are presidents they still expand and pump money into conservative projects like ICE, NHS, NSA and """"anti-terrorist""""" spyware.
>STILL whine and act like victims online because they're cultural figures and beliefs aren't universally beloved and the world they voted for continues to get shittier
>take out this anger by lashing out at any perceived cultural slight, including spaces were they were never wanted in the first place
lmao

>>96827802
Sure you did, Timmy. Run run! The che guevera is going to get you!

>>96828017
>explosion of trannyism
>explosion of immigration
>explosion of civil unrest to avenge dead criminals
>explosion of section 8 housing in every suburb
>explosion of healthcare costs after the government said "everyone has to have it, charge whatever you want :)"
>but now there's a president that acknowledges the existence of the border, this is fascism you've been fascisming us for 20 years
Denial is reality is central to your ideology, of course, so by all means persist in it.

>>96826765
link?

>>96828087
Seems it's more likely he'll go after the people OP was calling out. Uh oh!

>>96807792 (OP)
I understand that it doesn’t fit the theme of vtm but I doubt anyone is gonna tell him because typical redditors shenanigans.
Character is gonna stick out like a modern soda advert billboard in the middle of a medieval village for all the wrong reasons.

Does the subject of op’s image know he made it here?

>>96807867
>You cant laugh at retards because....you just CANT? Okay?

>>96832242
Refusing to take them seriously shatters their worldview. There's no greater insult than refusing to validate these people.

>>96832047
I doubt it.

>>96831032
So you have more in common with him, do you think Che Guevara was right or wrong about women or browns?

>>96832432
I mean I would probably be filled with a sinister kind of joy knowing I pissed off an autist enough that he made a thread about something I made for fun.
But maybe it is for the best that the nigga don’t find out.

>>96832515
Wow, browns too? Given that fascism just means being mean to brown people, Che seems to be a real fascist.

>>96832696
Yes, he was socially conservative. You didn't answer the question, do you agree with Che Guevara on those topics, yes or no?

>>96821138
The only reason why Lasombra didn't make the cut is because I went for the top three. Lasombra are definitely up there as the edgy self-aggrandising neckbeard's clan of choice.

>>96832738
I don't know how opinion on these topics well enough to say, just a few funny quotes. Why do you ask? Do you feel these quotes are representative of his actual views on gays and blacks? If so, is his "social conservative"-ness enough to make him a reprehensible person? Is "social conservative" defined by you as racism and homophobia? Lastly, why do you ask? I'll happily tell you all about my views if you tell me why you're interested.

>>96832799
>Is "social conservative" defined by you as racism and homophobia?
Pretty much, you can choose who you're racist against tho.

>>96832810
What a neat, easily-attackable little box to reduce a philosophy into.

Cuckservatives are the new SJWs. Whinny, retarded and insufferable.

>>96832872
we have a border

>>96832820
Feel free to expand it while you answer the actual question which was
>"Do you agree with Che Guevara in his view of women and brown people?"

>>96832926
I agree, we have one. So why you come here instead of staying on stormfront or /pol/? Or is because even fucking /pol/ is getting tired of retarded underages like yourself?

>>96832963
>So why you come here
ESLs always claiming the spaces they invade as their own, just like the countries they invade.

>>96832946
I have no interest in defending conservatives, I'm not one. I feel like all of your questions are in bad faith so I'll save us some time: I'm racist and homophobic, you may now lay into me.

>>96833038
Oh don't worry, while all social conservative are racist and homophobes not all racist and homophobes are conservative.

>>96833184
>while all social conservative are racist and homophobes
God I wish, most of them are just a few ticks away from being you. Same programming on slightly older hardware. Oh well, whatever gets you violent faster and kicks off the real contest of ideas.

>>96808304
Naw, they’re rich asshole coded.

>>96808304
>vile bloodsucking parasites that cannot see how deformed they look and are burned by sunlight, an element of pure good
you might be onto something

>>96833267
Why not both? Being a flamer is a bourgeoise disease after all.

>>96821606
Oh yes, so freely that D&D (which was good back in the day) had to get rid of demons/devils, and how insane fundies shut down metal concerts? Or, to go back earlier, where people threw a shitfit when Uhura was on the bridge of a Starfleet vessel?

Authoritarians get the rope.

>>96833294
>sunlight, an element of pure good
>gets skin cancer

>>96833339
>people policing entertainment if the language or demographics displease them
Wow couldn't imagine that happening today
>authoritarians get the rope
>This justice will be administered by the unimpeachable monopoly on violence possessed by the state, against all whom I deem fit for it.
No biggie, you're a nigger, a faggot, and a coward who will never do anything but post anonymous support for the actions others take.

>>96833584
The Oscar is not the government tho. All of that only matters if you care about getting an Academy Award, something most if not all movies don't really care about anymore.

>>96833756
The government didn't make dnd rename demons/devils, shut down metal concerts, or speak against a negress on star trek. Under your guys, they do deny disaster aid to citizens they find guilty of wrongthink, though.
>>96822971

>>96833785
I don't think you can compare "censor demons and devils" to "must include certain criteria to win an award"

>>96833796
No one censored TSR. TSR responded to the backlash from christian groups and replaced the terms themselves. The effect of including demons and devils in their products was harmful to their bottom line. They were responding to pressure from prominent social groups, just as organizations like the oscars are when demanding gay niggers to qualify for best picture. Just like other media caters to the demographic requests of the pro-diversity crowd who are both the loudest and most risky to challenge publicly. Now how do you feel about your guy's administration telling FEMA to let people in disasters die if they had the wrong politics?

>>96829906
https://geeseki.itch.io/sugar-service

>>96807792 (OP)
The world is overrun by vampire creatures and LGBTQ+ is still somehow more abhorrent???? chuds are real snowflake!

>>96834105
>The world is overrun by vampire creatures
oy vey you cant say dat goy

Think I’ll play a malkavian if ever given the chance to play VtM. I reckon I could pull it off better than fish slappers, as it would just be following along the party’s whims and emitting verbal diarrhoea, and trying to avoid doing it for jokes.

>>96834405
>Make shitty thread
>"Nooo I wanted a circlejerk!"
Go preach to the choir then

>>96835285
Golem.

>>96834405
nahh, more like picrel

>>96835452
chud loneliness epidemic is self inflicted

>>96834405
it struck a cord with everyone on this board. it grew organically because we all enjoy laughing at looney troons and wish VTM has still edgey

>>96833834
>The effect of including demons and devils in their products was harmful to their bottom line.
Well, or so they* thought. At the time AD&D also started using female pronouns as default, because Lorraine Williams was that much of a business genius I guess.

(That said, I started on 2e and prefer the Tanar'ri and Baatezu names, specially because it's harder to get them mixed).

>>96835899
>VTM has still edgey
VTM still edgey, you just hate it because LGBTQ+ existence dumbass

>>96807792 (OP)
>Ecologist at night
>WoD forests
>Le progressive 300 year old vampire
The plebitor/urbanite progressive usually hates small talk because at heart they are misanthropes who hate commonality, much to their denial of that fact. They see themselves and the world through the lens of sophistication and uniqueness, their perception of themselves and others revolves solely around which subcultures/fandoms one subscribes to; the more niche, the better.
It is a pretty based trait to not debase and lower oneself to the 'smallness of talk', but it is amusing how they staunchly reject the justification for their contempt that they have no problem stating. Only when the aristocratic nature of the reasoning gets mentioned do they start to panic.

>>96835864
That’s like blaming alcoholics for drinking or homeless for being schizophrenic. There’s truth to blaming them but their existence is evidence of societal rot.

>>96837424
The important thing here is that you never accept you're the root of all your problems because otherwise you'll have to do something about it. You feel lonely? You feel invisible? Underappreciated? Must be societal rot! Phew, I though we need to actually improve ourselves for a second there...

>>96835855
>the ̶l̶e̶f̶t̶ right can't meme
every time

>>96835855
>no black/brown stripe
>no trans coloration
Wtf are those bigots doing trying to use a non-inclusive rainbow?
>>96837368
Do you deny that a waning society will produce failing people that might have succeeding in a waxing society? Obviously your results are ultimately the result of your decisions but do you not think that a society with less opportunity than your parents had doesn't influence your decisions?
>Must be societal rot! Phew, I though we need to actually improve ourselves for a second there...
So there's no societal aspect to behavior? Nigger crime is really just inherent to their race? Good to know.

>>96835855
>nahh, more like picrel

>>96837368
>It is a pretty based trait to not debase and lower oneself to the 'smallness of talk',

not really based at, specially when you're a troon

>>96835855
lgbt spaces keep getting invaded by those damn straights!
lmao the balls on you fucking people