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Previously on bgg: >>96805517

This general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Fillers, Party, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the game that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.

TQs:
- What is a game that you have mastered?
- How would you deal with someone cheating in your group?
- What's something you'd change about your favorite game?

first for scythe sucks

>>96824195 (OP)
>What is a game that you have mastered?
Carnegie. Even with the expansion content, going all in on certain tiles/departments makes the game easy and more difficult for others.
>How would you deal with someone cheating in your group?
I had this happen recently during a game of Search for Planet X. One of the players, a grown man in his late forties even, was trying to look at my board on the sly. Like not in a "lol, I can see your board!" way but a creepy kind of trying to side eye over top of the screen way. I just stop playing games with those types of individuals. Most of the other stuff I've seen isn't cheating as much as not understanding the rules. I played Power Grid with a husband and wife that were adamant that you could not build through a connection if it already had an opponent building on it. Like frothing mad that I even mentioned that they'd been playing it wrong for years. I point out the rule and then try to avoid playing with them, too.
>What's something you'd change about your favorite game?
I'd update the art in Race for the Galaxy.

>>96824403
You play with strangers?

>>96824460
Jokes on you - I'm actually the stranger. I float around in a bunch of groups so I can pick and choose what I'm playing and don't get stuck playing kickstarter of the month every time.

>>96824511
any milfs in those groups btw?

As a small box game are these worth it:
> Omen a Reign of war (heard it was good as a good 1v1 battler but not sure if it's that great or it's just cause it not that known)
> Reforest (no idea)
> Pax Illuminaten (looks interesting but not sure if it's on parr with other pax games)
> Air, Land and Sea
> Arboretum (used to be pretty popular)
> Knarr

>>96824576
maybe

>>96824585
>Arboretum
This game is acid. It is blood cancer. Truly, it nettles me to the very solar plexus. A godless, little bitch of a thing that sings with Christmas-y glee every time it devours my hopes and bedevils my dreams. At first blush, I thought it some manic pixie dream girl. I was wrong; consider me deliciously subverted. It turns out the game doesn't love me back. Well, sometimes I'm convinced it does. It's complicated. But I'm in too deep now. Remember that part in Hellraiser when Spike Lee says: "The Box. You opened it. We came"? He was talking about the artwork by Guérin and Quilliams. Admittedly, I shared a similar biological response. God, what a pretty puzzle. Tart. Acerbic. Hateful. And agonisingly unassuming. I won't stop thinking about it – I can't. It stares at me through mirrors that refuse to bear my reflection. It whistles through lips gleaming with my still-wet bile. It busks gladfully at my expense - see its tip bucket filled to brim with my own very organs. No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering.

>>96824195 (OP)
>Jeroen, Joris, Daan & Thijs
Doesn't get any dutcher than this
Al die willen te kaap'ren varen...

>>96824195 (OP)
>Bus
This game is unmannered.
9/10.

>>96824232
Based, correct-anon

>>96824643
But is the gameplay good?

>>96824585
Arboretum and Knarr are good, can't imagine they're that expensive either. Haven't played the others.

>>96824585
think about Castles of burgundy the card game.

>>96824619
Quentin tarantino made a board game?

>>96824232
it should've just been Company of Heroes but with mechs instead of tanks. Thankfully the videogame (Iron Harvest) is exactly like that.

>>96824585
>> Air, Land and Sea
it's pretty good, simple and once you know all the 14 cards you can really start bluffing and get wins you're not supposed to win becaue my opp got scared and thinks you got the Escalation card and that's why i'm playing all my cards face down, while in reality it's to hide that i got jack squat and i know he has coinflip odds to get the Heavy Tanks, Planes, and Battleship in his hand, and i hope that he only got one and not two of them AND didn't get Escalation.for himself cause then the ruse is busted

>>96825279
>Arboretum
Can you explain this >>96824643 ?

Also do you prefer Knarr or Arboretum?

>>96825740
Not that anon but I think both are pretty good. At the moment I prefer Knarr. It's not as brainburny as arboretum by far (if that's good or bad depends on mood) and somehow manages the absurd feat of feeling like a much bigger and longer game than it is. One of the few games to successfully compress a midweight game into a sub-30 min experience. It's also much better at 3p than you'd think albeit clearly at its best at 2p

>>96825490
>Castles of burgundy the card game.
is that still being printed or do I have to contact some weird european seller?

>Troyes: The Dice Game
>The Castles of Burgundy: The Dice Game
wtf werent those already dice games?

>>96826120
Do you not like dice?

Why do games take so long to be released? Once they are designed, illustrated and everything, why does distribution take so long? youtube hacks have played games from 1 or 2 years ago that havent even been released. Why?

>>96824585
Arboretum looks cute but gameplay is not cute.

>When the deck is exhausted, players compare the cards that remain in their hands to determine who can score each color. For each color, the player(s) with the highest value of cards in hand of that color scores for a path of trees in her arboretum that begins and ends with that color;

>If a player doesn't have the most value for a color, he scores zero points for a path that begins and ends with that color.

That's kinda evil design.

Arboretum will mind rape you. DO NOT play if you want an easy going game. Last warning.

>>96826260
China

Yay or nay?

>>96826361
Gay

>>96826361
meh

>>96821189
I’d say the must haves are pretty low. Too many varying opinions on…everything:
>Campaigns
Carcossa
Forgotten Age
>Investigators
>Dunwich
>Carcossa
>Scenarios
>Excelsior Hotel
Personally I own Dunwich, Carcossa, Forgotten Age, and Hemlock Vale for campaigns and Dunwich, Carcossa, and Forgotten Age for investigators. I *would* like Circle Undone or Dreamlands for investigators too but it’s not necessary. Next campaign I was planning on getting Innsmouth but I guess it’ll be Drowned City lol.

Is Sol better than Arcs?

>>96826808
we hate wehlre we hate wehrle

>>96826808
Two totally different experiences.
I enjoy both.

>>96826808
>is a mechanic's shop better than a mexican standoff?

>>96826808
it’s certainly more elegant

>>96826260
Boats are so slow you have no idea.

>>96826033
You have to contact some weird European seller. They probably want like $10 though.

>>96826033
There's a lot LOT of them on the secondary market for cheap. Like ~10 euro

>>96826361
I saw this at a game night recently. The table playing Dune Imperium started later and finished earlier. It could have been an issue with the players though.

>>96827067
Boats are plenty fast. The oceans are too big.

>>96826808
No idea but I find Sol so weird in terms of artstyle.
>minimalistic, sleek art
>Overproduced but heavily abstract plastic unit pieces
>The board is a photorealistic picture of the sun
Usually I don't mind but this mixture feel very weird to me

>>96826510
Thanks for the rundown, anon. I appreciate it. Looks like Carcosa and Forgotten Age are top of most lists from what I have seen on YT. Now it's a matter of waiting to pounce on a reasonable price. Ebay sellers are already pricing them like long OOP games. At that point I would rather just buy 3KR since it actually is long OOP and discussed a lot here lately. That may just be the contrarian in me though.

Redpill me on Arkham Horror LCG vs Arkham Horror: The Card Game vs Elder Sign. Are they all worth it?

>>96827728
None of them are worth it

Also the LCG and Card Game are the same thing lol

>>96827790
>None of them are worth it
Oof.
>Also the LCG and Card Game are the same thing lol
My bad. I was thinking of the board game:
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/257499/arkham-horror-third-edition

I want to figure out who in my group is secretly a jew. Which economic game will force them to rub their hands uncontrollably? I looked at Ponzi Scheme but it doesn't look like what our group would usually play and I need to be subtle

>>96824585
Are omen and reforest even available? Omen is supposed to be a pretty good duel game but I'm not sure how it stacks against other duel games like radlands for example.
Reforest looks like a mix of forrest shuffle and wingspan. But for a deck of cards it might be neat.
I was interested in both games but never saw then being sold anywhere so I just forgot about them.

>>96827728
Eldritch Horror is the only good one

>>96825867
How is Knarr in terms of table space?
Arboretum and CoB the card game take a lot of space for basically just a deck of cards.

>>96826120
But are they good? How are they different from the og game?

>>96826288
So your more of a Knarr guy hih?

>>96826808
Different type of games. There's an anon here that played Sol fairly recently and gave some feedback. You probably know about arcs.

>>96826120
Not enough dice. We need to go deeper.
>>96827276
My car is faster than 99% of boats out there

>>96828170
>can't detect jews just by looking at them
ngmi

>>96826260
Yutubers get the unfinished versions of the game. Not the final version.
Also a lot of essen games are available online (not as preorder), like Voynich puzzle, Seti expansion, Pilgrims, Aquaria etc.

>>96828170
You play with a group of randos or what?

>>96827285
>Sol
The style of the does look odd, a mix of different styles. I don't mind it as much but the gameplay seems like it starts slow and I question how replayable it really is.

>>96828170
Just throw a coin.

>>96828170
Railways of the Lost Atlas, or any other 18XX
If he tries to win by just being a shareholder and not a company owner, he's probably a jew. If he manages to win with that strat, he's certainly a jew, or at least he uses jewish market sorcery which is equally as bad.

>>96826033
Why the sudden interest in this game?

>>96827312
I see. But that kind of autistic thought structure clashes even more with the different styles used

>>96827312
Also reminds me of the ks game that didn't get made because the author was threatened by the sun to not give away her secrets

>>96827728
>>96828073
>Arkham Horror
2nd Edition is the Ameritrashiest of Ameritrash, for better or for worse. I’ve had fun with it before but it’s a lot to digest and you just have to accept its absurdities and randomness.
3rd edition tried to streamline things and while it’s faster and cleaner it’s kinda defeats the entire purpose of the thing. It’s very bland overall
>Arkham Horror LCG
One of my favorite games. It does a lot right for a co-op card game and some of the campaigns (especially Carcosa) carry some of my favorite gaming moments of all time. But the game suffers from a few major flaws that make it difficult to recommend:
>it’s horribly overpriced for what you get, as is usually the case with FFG products
>the new cycle format means seems to mean that lots of old content is going permanently OOP. Losing two of the three best campaigns (Carcosa, Forgotten Age) and the two most important Investigator expansions (Dunwich, Carcosa) is a massive blow for people that don’t already have them.
>While the game isn’t nearly as comically pozzed as it was a few years ago with Edge of the Earth and especially Scarlet Keys, it’s still noticeable and obnoxious. At least that crap is also getting axed lmao.

>>96828073
If you're interested I'm not going to dissuade you, but the entire genre is kind of shit. If you want to, get one of them, and keep it at one. You're not going to find anything to justify owning more.

>>96828696
Was that a different guy?

Who SAP here?

>>96828762
i'm tempted. did they post a gameplay video yet?

>>96828708
>but the entire genre is kind of shit
Why?

>>96828742
It was a woman from what I remember and the game didn't get made despite getting funded. The sun would just have been too powerful an enemy. Also there was a funny side arc of her hating the neighbouring black family for some reason and her writing a huge schizo rant on how she isn't racist and she actually envys them for their natural shielding from the deadly sun

Wish I could remember how it was called, it's still on the gulag and ks. Really would've liked to see a genuine schizo game design

>>96828772
Because at the root of it there is no gameplay, just an "experience". Draw a card this, roll dice that. No skill involved, just a rollercoaster ride with a splat at the end, or a pat on the back at the end. If you want a proper dungeon crawler, get Gloomhaven. If you want a proper story, I don't know what to suggest (Gloomhaven is still far better even if it's just mid).

>>96828806
I would agree that Arkham Horror is just Betrayal at House on the Hill with a lot of extra steps but if that was your experience with AHLCG then all I can say is skill issue.

>>96828818
The anon was specifically talking NOT about the LCG. The LCG is great if it's your cuppa tea.

Best card battler that isn’t a TCG?

>unemployed with no prospects
>about to be evicted
>credit cards maxed out
>fridge almost empty
>buys a new board game
Forgive me, life.

>>96828823
>The anon was specifically talking NOT about the LCG
The original post was asking about all of the Arkham stuff: AH, LCG, Elder Sign, etc...
This is what he said >>96827790
>None of them are worth it
Followed up by >>96828708
>the entire genre is kind of shit
And ending with >>96828806
>at the root of it there is no gameplay, just an "experience". Draw a card this, roll dice that. No skill involved, just a rollercoaster ride with a splat at the end, or a pat on the back at the end.

Now, those are fair accusations to levy against Arkham Horror. But it sounds to me like he's including AHLCG in that in which case he's just plainly wrong.

>>96828835
Netrunner, Ashes, Summoner Wars, Mage Wars Arena, Sakura Arms

>>96828768
There's a how to play vid on the Kickstarter page. I'm not sure about it though even if I love playing super auto pets while commuting. Can't play the board game on the train.

>>96828887
I saw that one, but I'd rather get a TTS module or video of someone actually playing. i'm worried they went too simple with it

>>96828857
How's your family life? What game?

>>96828835
DC Forever is shockingly good if you don't mind deck building or capeshit

>>96828880
My melanin enriched kin of impeccable taste.

>>96828868
all me

I meant that >>96828073 wasn't interested in the LCG. The original anon was.

>>96828980
You know what, I should probably get some sleep. Bottom line, board games bad, LCG good.

>>96828868
I only made one of those posts you creepy AI-Like schizo

I do agree though, the entire genre of go here do a thing draw a le bad card is pretty shit. AH LCG is the closest to being good out of all of them but requires too much money investment to reach that point. (And pretty much only because after investing all that money you get to play some guys total overhaul mod of netrunner)

>>96828762
I'm interested but the int. shipping basically says wait for retail, I am sort of worried that the auto part will make it untableable with basically anyone I game with as I dont know anyone that wants to sit there and pretend to be a computer

>>96829019
>only made one of those posts you creepy AI-Like schizo
Oh fuck off, how was I supposed to know that?
>AH LCG is the closest to being good out of all of them but requires too much money investment to reach that point
On that I agree. Unless you have a lot of disposable income getting multiple investigator expansions plus the good campaigns is just a huge sink.

I'm bringing Hansa Teutonica to my board game club
how to maximize fun while playing it? From what i've red it seems that the action gain is a must asap on standard map. Is this a big problem?

>>96829101
>action gain is a must asap on standard map
not necessarily, there are multiple paths to victory, action gain is nice to have but not a must if it takes you too long or too many displaces. Imo book upgrade (the one that gives you more discs and allows you to move more) is pretty strong

>>96829101
Yes, actions is the strongest upgrade. That is why player 1 and 2 will put their first cubes there. But player 3 will put blocking disk and cube there. People fighting for the action upgrade will end up paying more than people getting the other (weaker) upgrades. Actions is only OP if people don't contest. The other upgrades also have value. The extra disk is almost mandatory for the east-west route, orange privilege is also needed. Bag is only a little worse than actions, and keys give a massive point bump. If someone gets to 5 actions you should already be closing out the game to prevent them from actually using them.

Like all games, Hansa is a bidding game, and if you think someone is underbidding for a space, you make it more expensive by putting in a blocking cube or disk.

>>96829101
Personally, a lot of my fun with boardgames comes from exploring them. Don't take it away from players. Though I guess a small pointer just as you are thinking about is ok

Any anon that tried Railway Boom and can share their thoughts? Or if there's anything else that's good at Essen?

>>96829413
>That is why player 1 and 2 will put their first cubes there. But player 3 will put blocking disk and cube there.
sorry, did you mean "put elsewhere"?

>>96829880
No,but the but was incorrect. At the start of the game the board is empty, and extra actions is strongest. So you put your pieces there.

>>96828762
i played the vidya nd didnt find it fun, so no i'm not on the SAP hype train

>>96829101
actions space will have the highest competition so you want to block it with a trader or a merchant, you know, have your finger in that pie while using your spoons and forks on all other juicy spaces, like move action upgrade to reap benefits of being displaced all the time, or connecting a large network of cheap routes, or getting the bonus disks (some of them also give actions or can upgrade your board which includes actions, so really the actions route is not the only way to get more actions)

>>96830110
>or getting the bonus disks
What are your thoughts on the changes the Big Box makes to the disks?

>>96824195 (OP)
Anyone else at the Essen orgy last night? Much better than Gecon’s euros much better looking

>>96830153
I have only played the big box. The only change I know off is the change to the "remove 3 pieces" plate

I've never seen so many camels in my life

>>96830246
I was the guy in the threesome with the 2 milfs (one works for Asmodee, the other for Ravensburger).

>Arkham Horror
So...
LCG = good (but expensive)
Board game = bad (but sometimes fun)
Dice game = ?

>>96830249
The old version of the disk that switches the order of two adjacent offices can switch the offices of two opponents (or even two offices of the same player, if you want to waste it). In the new version exactly one of the offices you are switching has to be your own (although you can still use it to swap your opponent forward, if you want to).
It's a minor change, but strictly a nerf.

The only other change is the remove 3 pieces disk becoming the move 3 opponents pieces disk, which is generally worse but not strictly worse.

>>96830282
I could be mistaken but I don't think that camel is allowed in that tree.

>>96828868
>>96828823
It's semi-true about the lcg as well, sure there's some skill involved but the deck construction is largely a meme, randomness determines the major part of what happens. Plus, and this might be my personal problem, but the game by its nature gives you a rather tight narrative road including, traps and red herrings. Oh this path was a dead end, guess I'll die to the doomtrack :^) and never even touch that part again. The exploration is cool and all....exactly once. It then falls into a similar genre as Time Stories but with the additional element of sometimes getting absolutely hammered by variance. I do like the idea of the design, but never really got much out of it. It treads the path I find boardgames should not; non-emergent storytelling. So much of the game is admin, so much of the story is reading cards aloud. And, if ffgs direction continued the way it seemed, the newer expansions will probably see a native american trans P.I., kill cthulu with a shotgun

>>96828762
Not gonna hold my breath. Best they could do would be a 1:1 implementation of the vidya, and that'd be far, FAR too much admin. Maybe someone uses the same voodoo that made sts a good game to everyone's suprise, but I'd argue SAP is so popular precisely because it's so short, comfy and to the point. Three qualities I doubt the boardgame version can possibly share

>>96828762
Never even heard of the video gayme until today

>>96830457
>sure there's some skill involved but the deck construction is largely a meme
stopped reading here

>>96829019
>am sort of worried that the auto part will make it untableable with basically anyone I game with as I dont know anyone that wants to sit there and pretend to be a computer
well you're actually the one playing because you have to manage everything in the physical game

>>96824195 (OP)
Vital has become a weird mirror universe cole wehrle. Inventions and this both present themselves as these grand tapestries where you play out specific dramas. Inventions is gesturing at a technology-driven historical materialism; Speakeasy is the economy of prohibition made abstract. Both are big cool ideas, but the process of playing both is action layered critical path goop, where for some reason producing at your still and robbing a rumrunner boat are tied to the same action. Everything is layered into incoherence in a way that I find very unsatisfying.

I miss when he made games like On Mars, where everything is tightly wound around constructing and running the shared colony. Each game since weather machine has become more and more glorpy

Remember when something like in pic got you excited about a game?

>>96830489
Just played the video game for the first time. There's money, changing market, effects, health and attack upgrades. I could see it working but it wouldn't be as quick as the video game, far too much admin like you say. Games last like 30 seconds or less. In physical that would be like 3-5 min.

>>96830677
Nevermind, I suck cocks

>>96830682
I haven't looked at the boardgame but they'd very much have to tone it down a lot (can't calculate that fast with numbers above 10 or so) and lose a lot of granularity in the process. Granularity, which I think is the reason SAP is pretty fun.

>>96830687
What’s this?

>>96830687
Isn't this Revive? Thoughts about Recall, the new game they call the new Revive?

>>96830701
Im retarded, Revive does not look like that. But it's Recall so I still nailed it. Anyway, thoughts?

>>96830699
It is recall, just as >>96830701 implied
I posted it because this was the type of board that got me excited 10 or so years ago. Now it has the opposite effect, especially these revive like games with a TON of setup

>>96830720
Yep, the long setup and sheer amount of moving parts and shit games have has been the main reason I nope out of getting new games

>>96825740
I prefer Arboretum. It's more interactive than Knarr and feels less like a filler weight game you're only playing to kill 20 minutes at the end of the night.

>>96829413
This isn't true at all, even contested. It's much much much more advantageous to get extra actions early to the point of pushing a player out to give them an extra placement isn't a big deal. All of the other stuff you pointed out is fair but that stuff doesn't matter until mid/late game.

>>96830682
It's not a 1:1 copy but I guess it translates the spirit of the game.
>Each player has 3x gold and every card costs 1 gold (gold is reset every round)
>You can sell your pet cards but they give you disposable food cards, not money.
>Some cards can be acquired by having matching symbols in cards from your hand
>Pets are ordered by tiers. Every deck has a different tier. On round 1 you get a card market from tier 1, and so on.
>Health and attack are the same stat "power" rather than two stats.
>You arrange your cards in a face up stack. Your first cards go against your opponent's first cards, etc.
>Each pet can have different food cards on it but you choose which one to use.
>Damage is tracked with red cubes.
>When a pet is defeated or is attacked certain effects may activate
>Some pets "throw rocks" which means rolling dice, each rock icon on the dice is an attack.
>Last pet standing after a battle wins a trophy. Player with the most trophies after 6 rounds wins the game.

>>96828806
>>96828772
>If you want a proper story, I don't know what to suggest
Sleeping Gods. Be aware that it's a campaign game and it's LONG so finding a consistent group to play/read it with will be the hard part.

>>96828917
>How's your family life?
Single, no children, no gf or wife.
>What game?
Two games actually. Agricola (Revised edition) and DI:U.

>>96830912
How LONG is it? Standard legacy game long with 12-15 matches of 2-4 hours each, or Gloomhaven long with 100+ scenarios?

Also how's the gameplay? I just looked at one picture of the materials and am on the brink of buying it. Even though there's no way in hell I'm playing through it.

>>96831040
The publisher claims 10-20 hours but that's blatantly wrong unless you're choosing not to explore. And there's a lot of exploring and figuring out routes to keep the supplies you need in stock. Gameplay is mostly resource management and how to apply your crew best. I can't fully estimate time but I can say we've done four full-day sessions and I don't think we've scratched the surface. The storybook alone is over 100 pages

>>96831150
>we've done four full-day sessions and I don't think we've scratched the surface
how many players in your group?

>>96831170
three including me

It's a fun game
Sadly no one I know wants to play it

>>96831175
I'm not the person you were originally talking to but I think I'll pull the trigger . Let's see how it goes.

>>96831184
Buy dogfucker games, get treated like a dogfucker. Simple as.

>>96831237
>dogfucker games
what? do explain

>>96831244
Animal games with cartoon art. Usually made for dogfuckers.

>>96831244
He's a schizo troll from Poland. Pay no attention to him.

>>96831184
I'm honestly extremely tired of inoffensive nature/animal themed games

>>96831304
Yeah. It's wild that only Dominant Species seems willing to make a game about animals that's violent.

>>96831359
Evolution/Nature is right there.

>>96830788
if you pay multiple displacements to get your actions to 4 or 5 a player just getting 3 actions and a few other upgrades will be better off. Therefore actions are not OP.

>>96831359
I think it's the deliberate choice of being as inoffensive as possible so you don't get faggots screaming at you on the gulag or social media for not hiring some minority consultant. God forbid you use real life locations or people

>>96831593
We need more silly games that are totally false but would have you believe that they're about real events. Untapped gold mine here.

>>96831593
Those faggots are really fragile. Just the mere inclusion of men and women makes them seethe.

>>96831415
>Evolution
I need to check it out

>>96831184
the solo is pretty fun still, but it's not the same as having a real animal market like at 3 or 4

>>96831842
That is such a lame profile pic

>>96831919
Damn, are those all the panties that got soaked when you showed off having a copy of Acquire?

Need suggestions

We got multiple board game nights every week, and don't decide on what to play until everybody gets there, so we all bring a selection. I'm getting tired of hauling games in and out of my car every game night, and frankly I'm kind of low on storage space in my tiny ass apartment. I'd rather just leave games in my trunk, but I'm worried about moisture over time, especially in the fall/winter. I've got bigass silica moisture packets in every game box already, but I've seen what my trunk does to cardboard storage boxes left in there over the winter.

All the board game marketed storage options I'm seeing are basically just cloth/mesh carry bags with good dimensions, nothing that's outdoor moisture rated.

Any suggestions on storage containers? I guess I'm looking for shed storage options?

>>96829101
My experience with Hansa Teutonica was that players thought they were too smart for it and overvalued the action upgrade. I tried to dissuade them but ended up in a shitty metagame where they just became more convinced they're right, because I wasn't a good enough player yet. It's actually not at all simple to counter and depends on the unique game states throughout a rather tactical game. People who try to explain it to you here are just giving you examples. Hansa Teutonica wouldn't be such a great game if such strategies were that reliable.

What I ended up having to do is train up an entirely different group of players who did believe me when I told initially them 4 or 5 actions were overkill. We all got better at the game together. They're generally worse gamers than the first group, but reliably beat them now when we mingle because they have a broader experience of the game now.

>>96824232
It really does
As soon as the river crossing rules were explained to me I knew it was going to suck
By the middle of the game I don't even care where people can move and just assume they can go anywhere via tunnels/mechs/powers/etc.
After someone else hosted scythe, I broke out Kemet the next week, and we haven't played scythe since, lol

>>96832684
Shed storage options, possibly just use a cooler. Coolers are pretty good at blocking airflow and definitely moisture going out, not sure about moisture going in but I'd assume they stop that too

>>96831842
I mean, the designer is being hateful. A Hague trial is a possibility.

>>96832618
Gayfurs are generally disgusting degenerates

>>96830328
>Dice game = ?
The fact that no one has even bothered to mention Elder Sign should give you all the information you need to know about that game

>>96829101
Taking an early action upgrade on the standard map is a strong opening, but it will almost always be blocked so you have to factor in losing a cube early for displacement. I find going hard on the 4-5 action upgrades is almost always a trap though unless the game goes long. I also don't think Action upgrade early is the strongest opening play.

That all being said, I've never seen someone with just 2 actions win on the standard map. I think because of that, the action upgrade spot can become a problem if 2-3 players block it up early and refuse to clear the route. You can solve that by getting the move 3 pieces bonus tile, but most new players don't realize that.

>>96832684
I would never leave anything in my truck long term. Instead of hauling a giant collection have you considered taking a bag with less games?

My strategy lately is carrying in exactly one game I know I want to play, since it's out in the open versus everyone else's games tucked away in bags it becomes an easy first suggestion.

Is there a game that gives a similar experience to drafting a MtG cube without being MtG?

>>96833612
No. Strongly recommend you just build a cube and play with friends

>>96833612
>cube
just play rubik or tesseract

>>96833612
Yes. Algomancy. It is literally that but without any of mtg's issues. Developed and designed by an mtg draft champion, fella is also an autistic mathematician or something. He heavily uses AI for art direction (not fully ai generated but ai assisted based on handmade sketches) but if you can get over that the game is good.

>>96831796
This p500 is still up, be the change

>>96833562
> have you considered taking a bag with less games?
Each group's tastes are pretty much mutually exclusive. I am the only overlap.

How is Y&Y or Huang anyway? Was considering picking it up since T&E is unobtanium

>>96833783
I cannot get over that. Fuck generative AI. Thanks anyway, though.

>>96834058
Lucky, my mech only likes programming games.

>>96834023
Fair enough. The way I understand it, fella is trying to transition to fully handmade art. Game's in alpha, he's by himself and it takes a lot of money for artwork for 500 different cards. I will suggest at least keeping an eye on it since it's a self contained cube with none of mtg's flaws, it's basically the best mtg clone out there draft-wise, though it has constructed formats too

>>96832684
get some bags from Ikea or other furniture stores, they're pretty good and big so they carry lots of games
for containers idk, i usually keep my games on the shelf near the game table, sorry you live in a car-dependant third world country

>>96834087
Sounds good; when the game has fully human-made art I'll definitely purchase it, thanks for the rec!

>>96833783
Man, I usually do not mind ai art that much but I now remember the game. I ignored it largely because the art looked so devoid of all soul. Gotta look into it though, this is an itch I haven't been able to scratch since dumping mtg and neither codex nor Millenium blades really fill that void

>>96831842
every single time I see this guy post it's something insufferable

>9.0 / 10
Is this the best game ever made?

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/356080/the-elder-scrolls-betrayal-of-the-second-era

>>96835226
I can't imagine how a game could be better.

>>96835566
By having no expansions. Brass: Birmingham is the #1 game and it has 0 expansions. Kneel.

>>96835579
>a sequel
Barf

>>96835630
Reimplementation, actually. But it's no IP slop or expansionslop. Using another man's IP is cuckoldry. Adding inches to your dick is cringe.

>>96835226
It's the best game of its type out there, I love that campaigns are 3 sessions. Long enough to enjoy and see your build pop off but not long enough to get bored with it.

>>96835704
Lay off the copium

>>96835881
Didn't you try to diminish a game by calling it a sequel? User your own advice.

>>96835226
What's good about it? I know nothing about it except I recognize the ip.

>>96835948
It's le hardcore RPG that lasts 100 bajillion hours and comes with a million dice and with maps full of cum.

>>96835948
>>96835956
anon is retarded, it's a 3 session campaign with randomized rogue like elements like Too Many Bones, in fact it's basically its sequel

It's great.

>>96835948
Allegedly it's Too Many bones but more interesting/better
Given that TMB wasn't particularly great once you get past the oh wow everything seems very cool phase I don't know what to make of it. My take on it from a distance is general apathy

>>96835977
TMB had lots of issues. The balance is one thing, but also the fact that you could basically use each skill once per battle (which further incentivises maxing attack) and just the plain bad feel of having cool skills that just whiff over and over. I thought I heard TES also did something about how the skill dice work, would be interested to hear about it.

>>96828835
Epic card game
Mindbug

>>96835226
it's too FUCKING easy

>>96834914
>>96834087
>>96834023
>>96833783
>Huh interesting
>Kickstarter already fulfilled
>Still some copies in the publishers store
>Check rulebook
>It's beyond trash, looks like an early first draft, has absolutely glaring mistakes in it visible for anyone not blind
Why and how does this still happen. That combined with the soulless ai art makes me stay far away from it. Which is a pity because a curated cube without the problems mtg has is exactly what I'd like to play atm

Also it's kind of embarassing how many concepts are taken almost 1:1 from mtg

>>96836876
What is a "cube"?

>>96836937
basically it's like classic MTG draft but you use a big box of cards instead of packs of a certain set, that way you can do drafting without selling your kidneys to WotC and Hasbro

>>96836937
Essentially a curated selection of mtg cards throughout all of magic that supports a huge number of deck archetypes and card interactions. Best way to play mtg, but it's still mtg.

>>96830645
Yes, you're computing the battle, as I said in my post. It's not like there's decisions

>>96830457
>And, if ffgs direction continued the way it seemed, the newer expansions will probably see a native american trans P.I., kill cthulu with a shotgun
I know they couldn’t resist putting in a one armed black woman in the latest investigator expansion but it’s genuinely a step back from the ledge they were standing on from Edge of the Earth to Hemlock Vale

>>96835630
Betrayal of the second era is TMB 2.0

>>96837144
>it’s genuinely a step back from the ledge they were standing on from Edge of the Earth to Hemlock Vale
I am intrigued and simulataneously afraid to ask how far they have gone if a disabled black woman is considered a step down in this weird minority roulette

I'll ask again, has anyone tried pic related? I'm honestly only interested in it because it seems like a rare euro with an exiting ending, but reviews are all over the place. From ever samey game with a lolrandum end to others saying the exact opposite.

>>96830687
>I suck cocks
Molly House player detected

Thoughts on Covenant?

>>96837398
I'll be honest with you, the art made me lose what superficial interest I had in it. Maybe it's even good, who knows

>>96837421
what's wrong with it?

>>96837448
I could go into detail, but I find that art is very much a thing you instinctively (at least as layman, maybe it's different if one is an artist) form an opinion and only afterwards create a seemingly objective narrative to the "why" for yourself.
Plus the board looks convoluted in a way I am kind of tired of at this very moment.

>>96837289
The one of the starter packs is a black tranny
Edge of the Earth has the most comical butch lesbian imaginable
Scarlet Keys had a non-binary thing androgynous dude with cornrows and Muslim woman working at a call center (I’m not making that up)
Hemlock Vale isn’t AS egregious with its investigators (bisexual Italian heiress and gay Japanese man not withstanding) but it still has card art I can’t believe they actually made with pic related.
So yeah a black woman who got her arm bitten off trying to pull someone out of the ocean is comparatively tame.

>Game started 39 days ago
Bros, dont play City of Big Shoulders in turn-based...we're not even at the final round

Redpill me on Deckers. Why are people so excited?

>>96837581
I'm on a turn based game of Skull King with like 5 other people. It's been going on for like two months because the guy from Spain takes too long to play. I don't know what I was thinking.

>Async games
Pathetic.

>>96837535
Oh my that is frightning indeed. What the fuck is ffg trying to do

>>96834058
>>96834069
I really haven't liked the last couple COIN/ICS games I've played (Gest, RDR, People Power) but we got to play it last weekend and I really liked it when I thought it had everything going against it (first time designer, weird theme, semi-coop). The coop part is the best part of the game because it's coop in the same way John Co is where you need to keep the company alive except in Bronx you can't just tank it in the end to win, you have to keep it up in the air or you all lose. It made for some fun moments in our game because we kept passing around the responsibility like a hot potato.

>>96837691
To be fair this is when Newman started doing the transitioning thing and that kind of put it's tendrils into everything that was Arkham Files related. Remember the characters from Unfathomable?

>>96837614
They're not

>>96837785
Well, on BGG they are. They've been waiting since 2021 or something.

>>96837614
I don't know but the usual answer is that KS fulfilment has begun

Is power grid still based in current year, or has it been eclipsed?

>>96837691
It was the peak of excess during the Great Awokening and they indulged as did the rest of this industry and only now with a new design team are trying to pull it back a bit. I don’t think it’s an accident that the campaigns for Hemlock Vale and Drowned City are significantly better than Edge of the Earth or Scarlet Keys, with HV in particular being the best campaign since Forgotten Age.

>>96838924
I hate woke nonsense, of course, but I still find it baffling how strongly bad design/product and level of wokeness correlate. It seems almost deliberate at times

>>96839047
I think it’s because when you create something so entrenched in a specific political context it becomes hard to make it mean anything outside of that context. The goal is to be woke. Everything else is tertiary to that. It isn’t exclusive to the left either: “conservative art” is so cringe worth so often because its only objective is to be anti-woke, not to be interesting on its own merits.

>>96837534
I'm with you on both, anon. I think the big problem with it for me is that there is nothing interesting about the cover or board beyond it being filtered through its strange but middling comic art style. An art style not fully carried through to the board since it entirely lacks the strange uplighting. The board also just seems a bit of a mess with inefficient use of space and that inefficiently used space then almost doubled again by large playerboards. I won't be surprised if it is never talked about again once the initial hype dies, but maybe the fiddly looking hex island provides enough variability to give it legs.

>>96839047
It's the performative nature of it. In the past you knew fuck all about any given character's sexuality until they shared it with you, unless it was a character defining excess. It's still a character defining excess, but now one is expected to clap, or so it was until very recently when everyone had collectively had enough of it.

>>96839110
Interesting point, I tend to agree. If you are that far down either side of the spectrum, the main mission isn't to merely make something good/cool featuring your agenda but to produce a vessel to transport it. As you say, it comes in all flavors.

Meeplets FEAR and ABHOR The Melding Chud.

>>96839442
His burning dice shirt might just be the bg equivalent of Chad's "ouch!" one

>>96839442
Are you having a stroke? Do you need help?
Not that I would ever help you, I'm just curious so that I have a funny story to tell later.

>>96839390
Well put anon. Can't help but nod along to your gripes with covenants art. On a sidenote, this are probably two big pet peeves of mine, box art not being carried over to the actual games components at all and components seeming like they have a lot of blank/bland spaces where artwork should be.

>>96837711
How do you rate Falling Sky? To me it's one of the most enjoyable themes, but I haven't had the chance to play it.

>>96839997
I'd rather play space invaders

>>96840039
Wrong falling sky, anon whos not part of the conversation

>>96840059
I stand by my comment

What's in the box?!?

>>96840370
This is probably some gay shit like Flip7 or Flamecraft

>>96839997
Also not part of the conversation, but Falling Sky is my favorite out of FitL, RDR, PP, and ABB, haven't played the others. Any other Cross Bronx players finding Private a little weak? My opinion will probably change when I play more, but it seems that Suburbanize fucks everyone's income too hard to be used much, and they always get starved.

>>96840370
Summoners wars all in or captains chair

not that

>>96838704
Yes and have you played Pipeline?

>>96840370
The only thing I've ever bought from Zatu was The Ketchup Mechanism so I'm gonna guess the same.

>>96840591
>another imperium horizons player
absolute chad

>>96840596
No, but it sounds vaguely homoerotic
Tell me more

I might have been a bit overzealous with this one. The rulebook is thicc

>>96840770
Report back when you get to play it.

>rivet wars is back
who asked for this?

>>96840905
>when you get to play it.
haha.....

>>96840039
This.
Also:
Terraforming Mars > RDR
Sheriff of Nottingham > Gest
Tequila Sunrise > Cuba Libre

>>96837534
Tumblr nose

>>96840770
>fell for it award

>>96840930
>1-4
You really don't have an excuse if you can't table it.

The Big (cubes & dildo vers.s) has
11x 1s, 11x 2s, 11x 3s, 11x 4s, & 1x 5s.
The Big (meeple vers.) has
11x 1s, 12x 2s 10x 3s, 11x 4s, & 11x 5s. (10x 5s are optional)

The fuck is up with the decks of 2s & 3s not being 11x?

Wow, lost the tiebreaker in a game of Potion Explosion tonight by a marble. I got 7 marbles in an explosion, the other player got 8. I think that's the closest a board game ever came to for me, by a single marble in the tiebreaker round. Anybody ever get something closer? I've always wanted to see a game of Pax Pamir 2 settled by a Kebab cook-off.

>>96841667
A 5p game of Power Grid where 3 players had 15 points and 2 players had 16. 1st place beat 2nd place by $3 in the tie-breaker. 3rd, 4th, and 5th were also ordered by a tie-breaker. The player who ended the game got 5th.

>>96841667
>>96841723
Glorious. I love the blink and you will miss it, down to the wire finishes. Blessed games.

>>96841831
Oh yeah, it's great. I think I had a recent game of Railways of the World that was settled by one player having more money. I won a recent game of base Dune Imperium by having 11 points with 5 spice, with the other 11 point player having just 2.

>>96828782
KEK I remember that, that's like a decade old at least. If it's the one I'm thinking of, there's a Facebook post from The Sun (forma del Sol) that was taunting her and she was freaking out about it.

>>96840770
it's not nearly as bad as it seems, bar a couple finer points they could've made much more clear

>>96842330
>>96828782
>>96828742
>>96828696
Found it again, it was called 'katalyka'. Well worth a read if you're into schizo rants. Here's an excerpt from her last KS update:
>The truth is, you accused me of racism because I had worked thru the false accusations against me that I was "unsafe for children" by 2011, but you still wanted me to fail, because you couldn't handle that I had exposed the evil black racists who false accused me. (The Horton Family beating the crying 2 year old upstairs from my apartment with A. Bopp, which they had blamed on me to avoid consequences.)
>I was "that annoying white person who figured out that evil black racist people were dominating u.v.'s chlorophyll narrative".
>I had documented in detail that i wanted to be a natural Fair Huntress of The Garden, that i identified as an intersex angel without functioning sex organs (as the opposite of plants having both), and that i supported parthenogenetic cloning of my tribes' children... instead of children being sexualised to break their holy seals laying with beasts called husbands.
>I demonstrated exactly what the stellar culture was hoping someone would eventually learn.
>I singlehandedly introduced this planet to the idea of Pink or Green being the rightful division of Life and Death.
>That plants are an essential function of inward moving DEATH PRESSURE, as part of our planets' relationships with each other.
It goes on

>>96842429
>as bad as it seems
What seems bad about it?
All the reviews were very positive.

i want to play with orbs of elemental energy, recommend me good abstracts

>>96842434
>Gut instinct + Spiritual discernment = Ancestral blood memory
https://www.youtube.com/embed/kbGmeQm9pzQ?start=1216&end=1279

>>96842435
rules wise
it's a really cool game

>>96842470
Don't Gipf all have elemental themes? Dvonn is fire if I recall correctly.

>>96840458
what do you think of the 2 decade game being the default length? I've only played the walkthrough thing so far, but it seems like it's way too short for the full oomph of the game to land? like Public can increase taxes, and then doesn't even get to spend them at all