Thread 96827783

Post devious devices

>>96827783 (OP)
>Call or Cthulhu
I'm naming a game show in my setting this

Waiting for carmack to appear and explain actually, it was frosting.

>>96827783 (OP)
Sandy Petersen is a hack

>>96827783 (OP)
>whipped cream trap
This was in an episode of Miraculous years ago. Probably close to 9 years. Twitterfag is late to every party and OP is a faggot, as usual.

>>96827783 (OP)
My favorite trap was a series of traps randomly rolled during a dungeon creation using tables.
>There is a hallway with a door at the end
>The door is a swinging log trap
>A hidden door is next to that door
>It contains a swinging log trap using an Iron beam instead of wood
>There is a hidden room behind that log trap
>The room fills with poison gas when you enter that is also flammable
>The only thing in the room is a treasure chest
>It's a mimic
>There is a hidden compartment next to the mimic
>It contains a poison needle trap
>The hidden compartment also contains a note reads "U R A FAG" with a crudely drawn picture of a wizard giving you a middle finger (this last bit was my sole addition to the whole thing).

I was giggling like a retard eating cake when I kept rolling those results.

>>96827783 (OP)
Just eat all the cream?

>>96827920
That's just Home Alone

>>96827783 (OP)
...unless it is a very deep trap, surely the combination of a person's body heat and them struggling to move around would collapse the cream? Whipped cream deflates easily.

So easily, in fact, that such a trap would need to have been filled with fresh whipped cream not very long before the person fell into it. maybe half a day at room temperature. Otherwise by the time you got there it would just be... cream. Knee high, smelly, unsafe to eat cream.

>>96827844
I still don't know who this is.

>>96827783 (OP)
Imagine being so fucking stupid you think that you wouldn't suffocate in whipped cream just as much as in water or ooze or whatever-the-fuck, and that actual fucking rope is some kind of fucking string that would just kind of lie on top of whipped cream's surface tension alone.

What a fucking idiot.

>>96828273
perhaps it is continuously restored from the elemental plane of dairy

>>96827791
Lovecraft meets Wolfenstein The New Order

>>96828323
Sandy Peterson is a game designer. He made Call of Cthulhu RPG. Pretty much all games being skill based with a roll under d100 mechanic owe their existence to his creation. He was also part of Id Software in the beginning stages designing levels for Doom and Doom 2.

John Romero is also part of the OG Id Software crew and helped design Doom and Doom 2 (the head on a stick you shoot on the final level of Doom 2 is his head). John Romero was pretty much shit when left to his own devices designing games though, just look at Daikatana.

Both Sandy and Romero are guilty of "misremembering" shit from early Id Software days, so they very well could both be wrong. Romero is kind of a dick though so it makes one want to believe Sandy more, but odds are higher both made something kinda shit and Carmack had to clean up their bullshit because he, unquestionably, was the guy who did THE heavy lifting at Id and just might be from the fucking future.

>>96827783 (OP)
just flail the chain back and forth a bit and he'll notice it and grab it, duh

what a retarded trap

>>96827783 (OP)
Wouldn't it go rancid?

Also: https://e-hentai.org/g/3061647/65bd2510fe/

>>96827783 (OP)
I was under the impression that the creator of Call of Cthulhu died of cancer and the other one shot himself after his mom died

>>96828828
>Call of Cthulhu died of cancer
Sounds like Greg Stafford, author of Glorantha and Pendragon. Not sure how much of CoC is his creation.
>and the other one shot himself after his mom died
You sure it wasn't Robert E Howard, author of Conan?

>>96828110
Hey, it's considered a classic for a reason.

>>96829259
Lovecraft died of cancer, so I'm guessing that is the anon referred to.
Shame he didn't reference Clark Ashton Smith, but I'm pretty sure he had a very boring death in his 60s.

>>96828358
>that actual fucking rope is some kind of fucking string that would just kind of lie on top of whipped cream's surface tension alone
yeah, this really put me off as well

>>96828358
>Imagine being so fucking stupid you think that you wouldn't suffocate in whipped cream

He literally says in the post that the character died from lack of oxygen.

>>96830215
Read the rest of the fucking sentence.

>>96828475
Sandy didn't make BRP's d100 stuff.
Thatw as Steve Perrin and Ray Turner in the preceeding Chaosium game, Runequest.

>>96827783 (OP)
>whipped cream
Couldn't the party very easily just shovel out the cream? It's basically thick foam. Just dig it out.

>>96828734
Wow, I wish I hadn't ignored that warning.

>>96827783 (OP)
I want a game system where traps have stat blocks like enemies do.
I don't mean hitpoints, but like a set way of interacting with them with understood win conditions that don't rely on dm fiat.

>>96828734
Wow that is foul

>>96827783 (OP)
i dont remember the name of the pdf, grim-something maybe.
anyway, its a spyglass, the when extended, releases a springloaded blade into the viewers eye.

>>96831250
>>96832402
lol did you get psychic dmg?

>>96828734
The Meatmas tree is fun.

>>96828734
jeez that was brutal. So wait, is the idea that the girls are all clones of the original to basically play canary and trigger all the traps in the dungeon they're in? Why?

>>96832326
D&D 4e did that and you all hated it. You get what you deserve.

>>96836025
3e did it as well (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/traps.htm) if you use the rules for object HP (https://www.d20srd.org/srd/exploration.htm), but 3e also has a similar obsession with level-scaling as 4e.

>>96828475
Sandy tends to remember wrongly more frequently, but I don't think it's malicious. Romero has mellowed a lot since Daikatana, which humbled him quite a lot. There doesn't seem to be much love lost between the two, sad to say.

Carmack was and is without a doubt a technical genius and a key tard wrangler, but his abrasive personality sped id's latter day decline and he clearly lacks the artistic spark to carry a studio on his own.

Late stage id has a lot of tragedies like the wrongful firing of American McGee. He's full on become a wumao at this point and I kinda can't blame him.

>>96832660
No, I just find guro gross and sad.

>>96836183
>>96832660
>>96828734
That was nowhere near as gross as I expected it to be, the artstyle really reduces its severity.

>>96836179
This shit belongs in /vr/ but:
Sandy is probably wrong about what Carmack said, quite possibly because he was new to id at the time and misunderstood something. His working on E1 and having it thrown out is likely given how disorganised they were. He was told to work on Tom's levels, which included some E1 stuff. I think he's said he saw there was no E1M1 and, not having been told this was deliberate, made one.
Romero's claim is also inaccurate, as E1M8 is a Tom and Sandy level.
Carmack's ego was justified but that and his autism gave him tunnel vision. Willits seems to have been good at manipulating him and did so to benefit himself at everyone else's expense. They should have hired his step sister for those levels instead.

>>96830435
No. What you said is retarded. The whole point of the trap is clearly to suffocate the person who falls in.

>>96832326
>I want everything to be a numbers check because having human intellect adjudicate what makes sense and what doesn't makes me uncomfortable

RPGs are not for you. Try videogames.

>>96836179
Reading American McGee's life story it's incredible that he found any success. Dude was dealt an absolute shit hand from birth.

>>96830193
That is what would happen IRL. Just like strawberries rest on whipped cream without sinking, so would normal rope.

Also the reason it's whipped cream instead of water is that you cannot swim in whipped cream.

>>96838274
>Doesn't want a game system for a Roleplaying Game
Why even have rules at all, then? just roleplay.
You don't need HP just adjudicate if a wound with a weapon would be incapacitating. You don't need attack rolls just think about which character is more skilled. Why even have skill checks or saves? Just decide if what they are attempting is feasable.

>>96827783 (OP)
What a stupid fucking trap, whipped cream flattens and hardens as it dries so unless there are a bunch of goblin confectioners whipping up a bunch of cream right before they enter the dungeon it wouldn't even fucking work. He could have just said it was loose mud (which would have had the same issues mind you) but at least it would make some kind of sense as to why it's there.

>>96836179
I don't honestly think any of them are fully right or malicious either, they're two old men trying to remember a job they did together nearly 30 years ago. I wouldn't remember who did what parts of which level either.

>>96838330
It might surprise you, but rope is heavier than strawberries unless you've got some of that elven silk shit.

>>96827783 (OP)
1. A Rope wouldn't rest ontop of whipcream.
2. Whipcream melts.
3. Whip cream isn't going to block sound like water.
0/10 fake and gay, this did not happen. If it actually did happen that guy is a fucking hack GM. Also I would have just tied a rock to the rope.

>>96827783 (OP)
The problem was they couldn't locate the person who had fallen inside to drop the chain. The solution is for an archer to shoot (tipless) arrows tied to a string into the cream so one arrow will eventually hit the fallen person, there.

Speaking of traps I am so sick of GMs that just say "no" when you have something that counters their bullshit. Like you have darkvision and they say "everything is magical darkness", so then you say okay I use anitmagic and they just say no it doesn't work. I know a guy who does this with fucking everything because he is incredibly unclever and cannot conceive of creative traps or ways to get to locations and so just denies all attempts.

>>96827783 (OP)
>Ancient dungeon dairy
Imagine the smell

>>96828734
Man, I knew I recognized this artstyle. Crazy how one man can make something so wholesome and goresome at the same time.
https://mangadex.org/title/23aadc44-d2fe-46ca-83a6-6c86fd36ee12/bouken-ni-wa-buki-ga-hitsuyou-da-kodawari-rudy-no-kajiya-gurashi

>>96838311
>American McGee was born in Dallas, Texas,[2] to an eccentric mother who was a house painter. His only interaction with his biological father was on his 13th birthday, a meeting which turned violent as McGee's father drunkenly assaulted him that night.[3] McGee was highly creative and was gifted in mathematics and science, taking an early interest in computer programming. He was eventually accepted to a magnet school for computer science.

>In explaining where his name came from, McGee has said that his mother was a hippie and was inspired by a woman she knew in college that named her child "America":
>"Yes, my mother named me that. She claims a woman she knew in college, who named her daughter "America", inspired the name. She also tells me that she was thinking of naming me "Obnard". She was and always has been a very eccentric and creative person."

>McGee had a number of stepfathers when growing up until his mother finally settled into a relationship with a trans woman. When McGee was sixteen, he came home from school and found his house empty and abandoned; the only things left were his bed, his books, his clothes and his Commodore 64 computer. His mother had sold the house to pay for two plane tickets and the fee for her girlfriend's gender confirmation surgery, leaving him on his own. He packed up his computer, dropped out of high school and took a variety of odd jobs, finally settling on a Volkswagen repair shop.[5]

What the fuck

>>96842939
What in the fuck?

>>96838349
Not that Anon, but numbers and dice are there to simplify complexer concepts, like living beings.
A trap usually is a really simple mechanical interaction that can easily be explained and understood, thus it does not need to be made more abstract by adding a life bar to it.

>>96842941
>>96842939
And he seems to this day to genuinely be a decent, optimistic dude. Which I guess goes to show you to never write yourself off.

His Doom maps are good, too. Mean but in a different way than Romero.

>>96836309
Willits seems to have been the only real poison pill at id.

>>96842989
How many do you expect in a team of about a dozen?

>>96836025
Seriously you could easily set up a sawblade floor trap for 4e as a monster that can be targeted and destroyed. Just give it a power that's "Pick a direction, move until you hit a wall do damage to anyone you pass by, every turn after that you use this power again but in the opposite direction of which you last moved".

>>96843567
You can do that in literally every system.

>>96843126
These days? At least half of them

>>96832326
Pathfinder 2e is down the hall in the paizo general.

>>96828475
>Sandy Peterson is a game designer. He made Call of Cthulhu RPG. Pretty much all games being skill based with a roll under d100 mechanic owe their existence to his creation.
Hi Sandy, I hope you're doing well. However, you are incorrect that every skill based roll under d100 system owe their existence to Call of Cthulhu. CoC uses the Basic Roleplaying System designed by Greg Stafford and Lynn Willis which was a modified version of the original Runequest system designed to be easily adaptable to different genres. Runequest pioneered the roll under d100 skill based system, not Call of Cthulhu.

>>96827783 (OP)
But wait, Whipped cream is very airy. Because ya know. It's whipped.
So wouldn't there be a big sort of depression where the dude left until he's in a huge puddle of deflated cream? It could still be over their head but they'd have a way to atleast get to him.

>>96843633
In any system that has a battle map and doesn't have faggy rules lawyers screaming "You didn't say I COULDN'T do this hyper-specific thing to completely spoil the whole encounter"

>>96843126
Well, at a minimum, the guy in charge. Usually he has 1-2 rat boys.

>>96841836
>Also I would have just tied a rock to the rope.
Do you always carry heavy rocks with yourself? I'd just tie the rope around myself and jump down to rescue my friend.

>>96850219
>rocks are hard to find
Lol.

>>96827783 (OP)
Is this harder to escape than just letting the person fall into a lava pit? I'm not sure how long Lava would take to kill someone or how heavy something would need to be to sink into it quickly enough that you couldn't be saved by normal means.
Given this pit is filled with whipped cream I would assume magic was involved due to how whipped cream works so if I had a spell allowance I would just have a spell which makes anything that falls through its area of effect automatically become hyper dense or something and let the lava do its work.

>>96842939
>>96842984
he also let tim rogers crash at his place in shanghai for a time
american seems like a good dude

>>96852816
pretty sure falling into lava would kill you within seconds if not almost instantly.
barring any sort of magical protection of course.
but what the fuck do i know, im not a volcanologist.

>>96827783 (OP)
> That time I bragged to Twitter about drowning one of my players in the cum pit

>>96842939
Read about what happened to his sister as well if you can.
American McGee is the modern day archetype of the suffering artist.

>>96854551
>Not drowning your players in the Cum Pit and making it an acted out puzzle IRL
Git Gud Scrub.

>>96836014
no, it's the same girl. she has infinite lives.

>>96852926
Oh, no, falling into lava wouldn't kill you. You'd die and your bones would vaporize well before you hit the surface.

>>96842939
for every one person like that who succeeded there were a million who were just miserable for their entire life

>>96827783 (OP)
wait, isn't it the "a mouse fell into a bucket of cream" story from "Catch Me If You Can"?

>>96852816
>>96852926
>>96855160
The water in your body instantly evaporates and reacts with the lava to turn you into a molten explosion. There (should be) a youtube video of a geologist tossing a raw chicken in a volcano to cause a mini eruption.

>>96827783 (OP)
I had an early game trap that forced the character who triggered it to fall under the effects of Otto's Irresistable Dance for 1 minute. I made the character hit the griddy because me and my friends love stupid shit. Somehow, this made the player very frustrated with the trap moreso than anything else. Not because it was immersion breaking or whatever else you faggots are gonna cry about, but because specifically it was that. It was harmless (and the same character would later trigger a trap that had a Girdle effect which we jokingly dubbed the HRKey, then died to an intellect devourerer, then got reincarnated into a crocodile lady and all of THAT was fine).

So yeah I guess Otto's Irresistible ||Griddy||.

>>96827920
where did you find those traps?

>>96827783 (OP)
>the ropes just laid atop the whipped cream


Has this nigga never actually held the type of rope you'd use to climb with/pull someone out of a hole with... and has he never actually been within 20 feet of whipped cream?
Or is he just retarded to the extreme?

>>96856246
Wtf is griddy?

>>96857627
do you really need to ask

>>96857627
This was my first thought. It reminded me of that retarded shit they did in Pathfinder 1e with the weapon cord. Clearly the person who designed that trap has never done much of anything physical in their lives, and also never baked.

>>96827783 (OP)
Let me see if I get this right, to make this possible, the whipped cream would need to have some enchanted or special properties to them:
>Permanency
Whipped cream dries out in a matter of hours, so it would need to be permanent in order to not just need someone to keep making magical whipped cream.
>Silence
Whipped Cream is not a liquid, it doesn't block sound like water does. So it would need to be magically enchanted to block sound.
>Hardened
This whipped cream is somehow dense enough to prevent climbing ropes from falling through it, so it would need some kind of hardening enchantment to it. And this is tricky, because if it's too hard, the person will just slowly fall like quicksand, or if it's a light person, they could just swim through it to get to the surface enough to get more air.
And even with all that, nothing really stops the party from tying someone to a rope, and lower that person around the place that the first person fell and then just pull both back.

You go, OP. Made me chuckle. But...
>>96871252
>is right.