Thread 96844397

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Previous: >>96793612

What was the biggest argument you've had between players and GM regarding rules or the game? (No personal stuff)

What am I missing here, other than a space that says "anime"?

>>96845194
Is there something wrong with a plasma shotgun or is it just such an obvious omission that everyone throws it in? I kinda get a sniper and revolver version being silly.

Maybe "unusually extensive rules for xenos/chaos/etc in Imperium focused game"

>>96845303
A bit of column A, a bit of column B, I think. It's a missing niche in the spread of weapons, but one that is often filled in unnecessarily complex or over-the-top ways.
Good catch on that second bit, I'll add it.

>>96845303
A plasma shotgun would just be a plasma flamer

>>96845303

nta but how do you shotgunise something that fires a blob of plasma? pump action nuclear fusion?

>>96845378
wouldn't that just be a meltagun?

>>96845194
"uses or acknowledges nucanon"

>>96845194
>Trying to make rules for 8th ed-onward stuff in an older system
Although it has some overlap with “concept based on a model not for sale yet”

>>96845396
oooooh, yes.

>captcha GAYRK
It's a sign.

>>96845389
That's a fair point. It just seems more reasonable to say scatter a spread of loosely congealed plasma blobs than it is to say 'plasma but we over and over again like we're cowboys' or 'plasma, but somehow up to half a mile away'.

>>96845194
If you can't easily find 25 clichés for a thing, maybe the thing isn't so clichéd after all.

>>96845453
He's not finding cliches, he's finding ways people are playing the game wrong

>>96845194
"Is something that already exists that they couldn't find"
"Drastically unbalanced for how easy/hard it is supposed to get"

>>96845453
You're not wrong, which is why I upped it to 49.
Thanks everyone!

>>96845546
>xenos shoehorned into game
>no equipment for xenos
schizo

>>96845194
>>96845546
A few seem pretty subjective.
>Character role or specialization with a pet.
>Impractical melee weapons getting force/chain/power versions, like this isn't 40k
Both of those seem kind of "I don't like this so it's bad" when there's definitely precedent for people wanting those kind of things. Playing a beastmaster is a fun character fantasy for people, and it showed up in the most recent Owlcat RT game too as a whole archetype. Or for things like a power cane-rapier or whatever, that fits perfectly for the kind of thing a rich, bored Trader might commission to buy or something that might be handed down as an heirloom.
Also isn't
>Doesn't include any content for xenos
>Astartes/Xenos/Chaos rules shoehorned into Imperium-themed game.
contradictory? Unless you only want your xenos to be punching bags and not allowed for players to use them/their equipment.

>>96845561
>>96845589
Not contradictory. It's fine to have xenos as enemy punching bags for the Imperium players while simultaneously restricting playable xenos for violating themes.

>>96845546
LET'S FUCKING GO BOYS

>>96845589
I don't think any of the individual things in this bingo are inherently terrible or unfixable. Anything can be done well, and I'm certainly guilty of a lot of them see pic related. They're just concepts that crop up frequently and need to be handled with extra care.

>>96846131
Isn't that the point of a bingo

Can officer and command units like Chaplains or Techmarines get seconded to the Deathwatch after becoming techmarines or chaplains? Or are they too important to lose?

>>96847027
Yes.

What causes something to be a relic? Astartes chapters and other groups have sacred relics stashed around but what are they? What makes a relic, like armor or whatever, important enough to put in a shrine?

>>96847629
Someone important used it, or it was used to do something important.

>>96845589
Isn't beastmaster an RT alt rank? It's literally in Faith and Coin.

>>96847801
Dark heresy radical handbook also has a psychic discipline for beastmastery. Official books also have orks, kroot, dark eldar, etc. That table is literally the dude's list of things he doesn't like.

>>96847885
No, it's a list of cliches, many of which he too is guilty of, see >>96846131.

>>96847885
I can agree on a good chunk of these honestly, but a lot of them are kinda fucking stupid.

>>96847885
I believe the point of homebrew bingo is to poke fun at trends in homebrew, not to engage in riveting satire of the RPG genre.

I didn't criticize the inclusion of 'plasma shotgun' for the honor of my fair maiden 'stick that shoots plasma in a spread' but because tech-heresy cowboys and sniping people with baseballs of glowing blue light were funnier and no less uncommon add ins.

That is also why I didn't bitch about "Space Japan (not Tau)"; because the fact Tau are a blender of the PRC and US gunboat diplomacy/peacekeeping missions and only weeaboo really in names and giant robots is irrelevant to the fact you can't open a fan campaign or sector without hearing a "YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and drums from some back page.

We can replace the free space with "Anon has beef with some space on bingo".

God help me it takes 2-3 hours to make a ship. I'm dying, squirtle. I should really be working on the Drukhari update.

>>96845365
So, Starflare Vents?

>>96848394
Hello, Shas. Gave GER a look through and I respect your decision to slightly nerf Custodes. But I wish to know what their stats should be, were they direct translations of their tabletop counterparts.

>>96849515
You mean their tuffness? I don't see it as a nerf, more like a way to keep their tuffness in range. A spess mareen starts with 30+2d10, so max 50, and can buy up to +20 for 70x2 = 14. A custodian gets 20+2d10+20 for 60x3=18.

If we consider most enemies (at the time these books were written, which was 4th-5th edition), T1 corresponds to TB1 and T2 to TB2, but after that it gets murky.

T3 = TB 3-5
T4 = TB 6-11
T5 = TB 12-17
T6 = TB 18 -25

So looking at this, a spess mareen sits in the range of T4, while exceptional ones can go to T5. A custodian is T5, and exceptional ones get to T6. So they DO match tabletop (HH/8e codex). If you had just applied "more stats" to a spess mareen template, things would spiral out of control.

>>96844397 (OP)
I got done working on some spreadsheets to assist with character creation/ranking up. It was a slow few days at work.

Deathwatch
https://mega.nz/file/akV11bJK#NyH5gbROLVHd76U1HI9AwAiOkYAaC9_yklhZ7_401Ow

30k
https://mega.nz/file/28tRzTSK#js-7CY3C1a6kK6rlSVvvc58QxKR_v0BOCQ-7ojFxKro

I think I included all the centurion specializations.

>>96848394
Using a cruiser lance on a light cruiser actually looks kinda dope. The scale fits really well.

>>96850478
good shit, will add this to my hoard. is the 30k stuff from gbal? if so, what version did you base it off of?

>>96851700
Yes, I used version 1.12.12 as my reference.

>>96848394
I'm really glad that you're still around, it's impressive really. I discovered the 40k RPGs almost a decade after they were released, used your homebrew I found somewhere, and only then hit /tg/ and this general.

how does this general feel about owlcat?

>>96852108
Mid as hell, played fast and loose with the lore, didn't let you upgrade your fleet worth a damn. Should've read CK3 and 4x's homework.

>>96852108
I liked Rogue Trader CRPG, but it's far from perfect.

>>96852108
Very good character writing with a couple of exceptions, very serviceable setting writing, really frustrating combat design.

>>96852108
I liked it, the characters overall had great writing and appealing VA work, but the ship combat is annoying just because you can't predict what you're getting into and upgrades are limited. Abilities could have used a few more tooltips to let you know how the math exactly works out, or I might just be autistic and not gotten it.

>>96852108
They have the setting and tone down, but the mechanics are their D&D stuff with a 40k skin

Working on some members of The Purge for Deathwatch rpg. I have some zombies and cultists done too, to use as hordes.
I've never run Deathwatch rpg. Should I do theater of the mind, or use terrain and minis? Feels like I'd need a lot of minis for hordes.

Has anyone ever thought about making origin paths for the Ork, Kroot, and Dark Eldar explorers for rogue trader? I think it'd help to give them some variety during the period before they can take alternate career ranks, but I wasn't sure if that would be giving them too much stuff, as they're also given a set of talents and skills from the beginning

>>96854013
basically what shas did for farstalker kinbands and is doing for dark eldar

>>96854020
I didn't realize soelse? was already working on that. Is his stuff in the hombrew collection or is it posted somewhere elde?

>>96854020
I don't go into full origin pathways. I usually follow the two step Homeworld > Training approach for custom stuff while keeping to set background blocks which give equivalent abilities and characteristic boosts. I think it would be too much effort for too little gain to do a whole 20-block origin thing for xenos.

Imperium Maledictum or Dark Heresy 2E?

>>96854285
2e. It is not perfect, but 1e's adventures are broadly compatible. If you really want cash instead of influence you can just use the 1e listings from a pdf and unless your GM spoils you with experience the occasional complaint about being able to minmax from the very start is incorrect - you just don't have the ability to buy the really powerful stuff, and a lot of it isn't present vs other gamelines or prior editions anyway. Without re-iterating the longer reviews for IM you can find in previous generals, not least among which is my own:

IM is a cheap and poorly edited reskin of another game. It's very 'swingy' with several different mechanics that can really fuck things up for you - or the enemy, I guess. Very little actual definite work - zones instead of true ranges, etc. It is very light on equipment, equipment upgrades and rules in general. Also it's psyker system is more vestigial than functional and, on a purely personal level, I find the mana bar system insulting. But that's just me.

>>96853896
>Feels like I'd need a lot of minis for hordes.
The book says that for hordes to have 1 mini for every 10 magnitude. i.e. 30 mag is 3 minis in base to base contact, and they extend their "touch" range in a 4 inch/square (iirc) radius. Alternatively, a single model with a 10 inch/square radius.

>>96853896
>>96854770
Put the hoard mini(s) on a big cardboard disk or something. Gives space to put markers too.

On the horde topic, anyone ever run hordes over 30? I find 30 to be the right spot, anything more and they're just a chore to chew through due to the damage mechanics

>>96854770
>>96854811
Okay, this helps. I'm gonna cut out a few squiggly shapes out of black construction paper.

>>96854819
My teams usually have more tools available so I feel more comfortable using multiple hordes of 50-60 at most. That also gives leeway for using horde traits that depend on magnitude. Anything above that becomes too cumbersome, unless it's an infinite horde which is more of an environmental problem. But I agree, Mag30 is a usually a good sweet spot for a non-important horde.

>>96848394
Your ships are more plain and utilitarian compared to normal ornamentation on Imperial ships.

>>96848394
Do you have stats for the LC yet?
>>96852108
They suck desu. Reddit-tier understanding of the lore.

>>96855944
Makes sense, but still, I think they make combat more boring. Multiple units can maneuver, flank, and have more available abilities than one giant horde.

>>96852972
>but the mechanics are their D&D stuff with a 40k skin
Nah, while the mechanics are very much a different beast compared to the tabletop version, it's just as retarded to compare it to their Pathfinder stuff.

do lightning claws in DW retain their special rule for extra damage with DoS? The errata omits the 'special' quality, and the stats are identical except errata gives it proven 4 which seems to indicate as much

>>96858127
The extra damage effect didn't show up in the table in the core book either.

>>96858177
it does. the corebook statline has "power field, special, tearing" and the errata has "power field, proven (4)"

>>96858127
>>96858203
Does the errata say the extra DoS to damage effect is removed?

>>96858228
not a word on the claws in the errata. But again, it lost both tearing and special in the statline. could be a mistake, could be not, so that's why I asked

I support the Emperor because of my goth gf. Tau girls can't compete

>>96858292
you just know she got a death grip stronger than a hydraulic press

>>96856680
A very maneuverable light cruiser that is specialized against killing ordnance, with enough anti-ship weaponry to stand against escorts and other light vessels. Super-effective against Slann strike craft and Necron canoptek constructs.

>>96858462
You're doing the Lord's work, Shas.

On a related note, is there a good place to find your most up to date stuff? The pastebin links are all for older versions of stuff and I'm not sure anyone can update that page anymore.

My scenario for Deathwatch RPG:

Potential Xenos activity has been reported on the Imperial agri-world of Vespasia (kind of near the Hadex Anomaly)
A small Tau fleet has been detected in the system, and a retaliation fleet has been sent to have them dealt with.
Your mission is to land on the agri-world and make sure all resources are secure, and to wipe any xenos threat from the planet.

>Players land on Vespasia
The local guard commander directs them to the mountains. Planetary radar detected an inbound ship last week, but signals are hard to track in the mountains. The scout group sent in to investigate never returned.

>Moorhead Mountains
The first encounter is a canyon, where they start getting shot at. There is a sniper somewhere in the cliffs, and the only way is forward. They have to navigate through cover and fight some dinky Tau drones. They'll get the chance to kill the sniper after reaching the end of the canyon and possibly interrogate.

>Arrive at the crash site
A massive Tau Manta has crashed into the side of a cliff, leaving some dead crew. There might be a living Tau or two to interrogate if they didn't already interrogate the sniper. They seem ill. Seems like most of the crew is missing, but there are some trails of strange slime/bile. Maybe fight some Stealth Suits.

End of session one.

>Something amiss
Some of the dead tau resurrect, acting like zombies. Seek out remaining Tau. Larger undead Tau encounter, maybe with some undead human guardsmen mixed in. Nurgle corruption. Puddles of bile can be seen every so often, leading them further into the mountains. Or maybe they can use their auspex to detect a Tau signal or something.

>Chaos Idol
Even deeper into the mountains, there is a a cave with a shrine and a strange alien device. There are some cultists present. In come The Purge. Battle, and destroy the chaotic alien device. Job well done.


What do we think? Feel free to use in your own groups.

>>96859782
If you're having issues finding a book and it's not in the thread, searching for it on 4plebs may produce a link. I don't have a central archive website or patreon or whatever others use.

>>96860756
I would say it's railroading but Deathwatch is designed to be Grand Central Station so whatever, I guess.

>>96858462
How much bigger do you plan on making these anti-ordinance ships? I feel like a dedicated anti-ordinance cruiser would be silly (although that might not be the case in your warzone) but a battlecruiser would be interesting because it could have the same firepower as a cruiser but with dorsal anti-ordinance guns.

>>96845546
What does "thing obviously missing from unpublished or unfinished base game" mean?

>>96845546
>Item that's too strong/weak
This is the entire 40k armoury already, though.

>>96845546
Not too bad, I guess. I would have gotten a couple more if I'd counted the content of the campaigns I've run, but why would I bore other GMs with my custom xenos when they can write their own? Everyone loved running into the Orz, by the way.

>>96854013
I've thought about rewriting all the races, give them less automatic free stuff and just letting them use the same origin path as humans. Refluff whatever doesn't fit.

>>96861120
I had no plans on going further than the light cruiser. Going higher would defeat the purpose. At battlecruiser scale and up, ships usually carry their own fighter wings and mitigate strike craft that way. Other ships will most assuredly have a fleet defense slot here and there, but one max - nothing would rival those two at their job. I think the two anti-strike craft ships are enough.

The anti-strike craft ships are basically 'complete.' Now is the time for new strike craft, and those that carry them.

>>96861435
>Lance Gunship
What in the deus-damned fuck
That's either the world's shittiest lance or one shot only, and probably both.

>>96863424
I see exactly what he's doing again, and he's a madman if he can actually convert them properly.

Anyone have some prebuilt characters for Only War? I'm designing a campaign and want to test some combats against a variety of player builds.

I don't want to get too deep in "Magical realm" territory but I need some help with background info. I'm running a game and it will involve an Inquisitor tracking someone through a red light district. My question is what kind of unique fetishes do you think exist for humanity in 40k? Between the depravity of hive worlds and cyborgs in the tech priests what do you think people would come up with? I'm not sure how to flavor the area in a way that makes sense.

what about a ffg system where you play as servants on a pleasure world called Only Chores

>>96864123
That’s just MAID

>>96864058
sex servitors, with on switch/simulation for personality, be it of the past person, or something entierly suited to the client taste

>>96864058
xeno roleplay

>>96861150
Only War is obviously missing a book on Aeronautica, as well as advanced specialties for Commissars, Stormtroopers and Psykers. IIRC Black Crusade's Tome of Decay appears to have been badly rushed and is missing several important bits. Classic FFG editing combined with the license expiring.

>>96863716
What is it, a fucking Hiigaran ion frigate?

>>96864058
>not immediately jumping to the incredibly low-hanging fruit of abhumans

>>96864958
Hiigaran gunship, hiigaran pulsar gunship, vaygr command corvette. When he said new strike craft it turns out he meant a new class, not just different vehicles. He's creating homeworld corvettes. He already made the kadesh multibeam frigate and named it after the multibeam frigate from cataclysm.

How hard is it for the imperium to produce murder servitors? With a statblock like this I feel lime they should just start cramming drop pods full of them and launching them at whatever needs killing. (I’m aware that this is basically what boarding torpedoes are for, but I feel like you could do it outside of naval engagements as long as you aren’t sending them into your own territory)

>>96865222
It's the lathe worlds. Of course everything they've made is super special and mega betterer than anything else. You can assume these things can only be produced in the lathes.

>>96865514
Isn't that literally any proper forge world? Admech have always had super turbo fucked up cool shit that they hoard for themselves.

>>96865591
>Isn't that literally any proper forge world?
No. Read the lathe worlds book. It's the gayest shit ever.

>>96865603
Can you provide specific examples?

>>96865514
So a regular murder servitor would probably be statted closer to a regular combat servitor, just faster and more melee oriented?

>>96865746
You joking? It's been a decade since it was released. I'm not reading that shit again.

>>96865763
Maybe. Murder-servitors never made much sense to me as a concept. Ancient death machine servitors, that I can jive with, but reserving them for only the most casualty-prone job in the void, where lost units end up in your enemy's ship, just sounds insane to me. I wouldn't give them stats in the first place, that just makes players want to have them do all the work for them (and then complain that the game is boring).

First time player of 40k Rogue Trader, but I am awesome at these XCOM, BG3 type combat games so I am doing this on Unfair difficulty.

I fucking hate large parties and infinite NPC spam, so I am doing a 5 man party.

Me (Bladedancer)
Argenta (Bolter Solider - fav char)
Idira (Psyker + healer - 2nd fav)
Cassia (Officer)
Pasqal (Tank - Frontliner - I did reset him to a Vanguard / Warrior build as it suits him more than an operative lol)

So far, I am rocking. But am I missing any cool sidecharacter action by doing this? Abelard and Goth bitch are alright, but Heinrichs seems like a narc. Just got the crunchy hippy sniper chick but she sucks balls.

Awesome game btw, Music alone is 10/10

>>96866320
There's probably a better thread on /v/ or /vg/ for you than asking here. This is for the actual tabletop games, like with pen and paper.

Generally speaking, the more party members you have, the more banter and interactions there is, yeah.

>>96866320
Well, the game is piss easy, so I doubt you'll have any trouble. I was able to beat 9/10 fights before the enemy got to act, and I rarely had to use all my characters to do it.

Has you GM given you reocurring villains? Big opps for you to track down and kill by the order of the Inquisition?

We've been sent to kill Myrchilla Sinderfell for good. Since she's a big named character in the Calixis Sector, I wonder if other groups encountered her before.
I'm expecting us to put that bitch down in record time. I'm talking turn one charge and all out attack. And by that I mean Galen exploding her into a shower of blood

When the party decides to try space marine nutrient gruel

I want to make a marine chapter that uses the tactic of the noise marines, but blasting the 40k equivalent of power metal. Would this be utterly retarded or wicked?

>>96867665
Raw Space marine nutrient gruel kills regular humans.

>>96867665
Another Hospitaller!
I'm glad to see even the xeno gets to live the full acolyte experience of gruel and slop ration bars.
It's quintessential to character building.
>>96867764
Acolytes aren't regular humans.

>>96867693
Follow your heart anon.

>>96867693
Utterly retarded.

>>96867693
How are they differentiated from regular-ass noise marines, and how do they excuse this behavior from a supposedly loyal chapter?

>>96868019
main difference is playing music thats retelling of the emperor's or other chapters/primarch's conquests, instead of just being as loud as possible. straight up battle bard type shit

>>96868043
Proper skalds instead of just going fucknuts wild, aye?

>>96868072
yeah, the only thing im unsure on, being a secondary tourist newfag whatever, is that chaos imbues their sound with warp energy, making it more damaging and drive listeners mad. Is there any way to mirror this for non-chaos music?

>>96868095
You can just say they have a strong oral/musical tradition of storytelling. The Space Wolves have that, and occasionally there's the theorizing by nosy cogboys that there's some science or magic behind morale boosting.

>>96868117
maybe lean the other way a bit, and suggest these 'music marines' can weaken the effects of the warp around them as they play? weakening daemons and psykers, their influence on others and ork's group psychic powers?

>>96867854
Hospitaller actually drew the image!

>>96866320
yeah, you would be better of going on /crpg/ on /vg/ its frequently discussed other there. If anything, the game really got me even more so into 40k
still, cool that you have fun, still got some issue with the game, but I got a good mileage out of it with 3 runs & 200 hours out of it; i'm waiting for the last 2 dlcs before going back to it; and there'll be the dark heresy alpha soo.
You can still bring out the other companions for their quest, but you are bound to miss out some fun interactions either way, so keep who you prefer. good luck with unfair, with a well optimized party you should manage but having one person less might be a bitch later on. A second officer could be helpful

>>96868095
>Is there any way to mirror this for non-chaos music?
I'd say so.

>>96863424
>>96865218
You guys got it. I'm experimenting with Corvettes. I can't exactly call them that because the Claymore-class Corvette exists as a Frigate, so Gunship it is. The concept is simple enough.

>Slower than fighters but faster than bombers
>Takes up more space in a hangar due to larger size
>Squadrons combine differently compared to fighters, bombers, and assault boats
>Durable, can take multiple hits before a squadron is destroyed
>Persistent, does not need to return to its carrier after performing actions except to voluntarily repair
>Able to damage enemy capital ships, small DoT chip damage of guns and lasers vs burst of bombs and torpedoes

I don't have rules for them yet. They're still being workshopped and figured out since some of these strike craft rules are byzantine at best, binary at worst. But I think they can be a good tactical addition to void combat as both ally and enemy.

>>96868401
Well, Shas, you're now obligated to make The Beast but 40K.

>>96868431
I already used a similar technoplague though, aboard a space hulk called the Iron Tomb...

https://youtu.be/hyDx98hT5gY?si=K6cONNVs_LZQWkLR
What kind of music do you use for your games, if any?

>>96867665
Why does one of them have the reddit antenna

>>96868454
I put "40k ambient" or "eye divine cybermancy music" into youtube and play it on my phone until someone has a shitfit.

>>96867854
If I had a nickel for the amount of notable Hospitaler characters I've read about in this thread over the past few years, I'd have like 15 cents. Weird. Especially in comparison to the relative dearth of other characters.

>>96869305
>sister inkitas titikas, who summons the emperor's wrath through the power of love

Or whatever it was.

>>96869319
Callidia, that one who randomly got rolled into being huge with a stupid fellowship, anon up there, and that one yeah. So actually 20 cents.

>>96869365
Tell me more about that huge with a stupid fellowship.
You mean her FW was stupid huge, or she was stupid and huge?

>>96869423
I've seen the actual anon lurk around here sometimes, but I'll try to remember...
Bored anon, decided to just max out fel for kicks. It wound up being 70+ or something like that. Then he rolled for everything else randomly, and she wound up being six foot something and hot. I think there were memes about it for a thread or so.

>>96869519
>6 foot something and hot
Damn, I rolled everything for Callidia and all I got was 170cm tall and
>lusty body
Her name is also from the corebook.
How'd anon max out Fel? T'was not DH1, was it? I roll so average and sub average for stats that the gm let me swap some so I could meet the Hospitaller requirements.
Callidia has ST 26 and just went up from TGH 25 to 30, squishy nurse.

>>96869559
IIIIII don't remember. Hopefully the anon is still lurking and can tell us more

>>96868401
Your stuff is so outside-context sometimes.

>>96866320
Abelard becomes an unkillable god once you get him kitted out, Kibellah is your personal murder blender, and with the right warrior into arch-militany/executioner build, Heinrix can kill god. Plus he's got some depth if you bring him in parties with Idira or Kibellah.

Also Yrliet with a proper build will delete half of enemy encounters before they do anything, more if you put Cassia's orders on her. Also it's funny to have Cassia be incredibly racist when Yrliet points out that she's a mutant and just as purge worthy as a xeno.

>>96869857
By the end of the game it felt like It was a race to see who could delete the most enemies the fastest, even without officer shenanigans. Very different from their previous games where you can stumble into nearly impossible fights without autist tier minmax and perfect action choices (and then they patch it and drive it the opposite directions)

>>96869931
It's really just a simple thing:
Abelard is a missing Primarch, biomancy-d into a normal human shape and full of infinite muscular power. And then you have Yrliet who's secretly Khaine's top girl, and Argenta who is the patron saint of Heavy Bolter Fire.

>>96869990
Now explain how a psyker MC can delete them even faster or why the tech-priest fucker never seems to die even if you tell him to go melee a daemon engine.

>>96870015
Emperor's strongest schizophrenic and the Omnissiah's strongest mechanophile respectively.

>>96869990
Argenta gets the newest best bolter I find and I get her hand-me-downs. I love bolters.

I tried the autocannons but they're all underperforming and hit like shit. I have no idea if theres a way to make them better, even with the items that make recoil zero.

You should also find the blessed bolter shell that makes all the single bolt shot automatically hit.

>>96867693
>>96868019
There technically was Ordinatus Mars once, which used powerful sonic waves to obliterate a heretek citadel.
If you really want to pull off shit like that, perhaps make it a lost STC pattern they found somewhere and didn't return to techpriests like the Blood Angels.
There are also non-lethal sub-sonic weapons that Techpriests and Arbites use sometimes. And flashbang grenades.

And see, Sonic Weaponry isn't even illegal by itself, you know. The fuckery comes from Emperor's Children modifying themselves into freaks and eventually falling to chaos as a result.

>>96865222
>>96865746
Lathe world supp had notoriously unbalanced shit, regular weapons that are simply better than others AND having unlimited ammo. Infitine jump packs, mini-thunder hammers, guardmen and techpriests gaining this OP equipment and implants early, and gaining talents more suitable for RT or BC power level.
As well as introducing Discordants, i.e. hayware psyker retardation.

Well, except the pathetic Pure Form cultists who get poor-quality meat implants or fate points for staying without limbs.

tl;dr Lathe-pattern is expensive, but there are always many more other combat servitors.
You could notice there is Crew Reclamation Facility for voidships, that can produce servitors easily unboard with sufficient spare parts.

>>96869559
>>96869575
Oh shit, I think that's me. Some Samus posting went down when I shared the details, right? The secret was that we were starting at a higher Rank for that game, so I started with as many Fellowship advances as possible, plus a nearly max initial roll. I think I rolled 42, then +15 for 57, then minmaxed my origin path to get another +5+5+3 and wound up on 70. I forget if the DM had us use alternate rolling rules or not, though.

>Damn, I rolled everything for Callidia
I had no idea that there were random appearance details in DH until I saw the charts Callida used to roll get posted in here, so at the time we just took the stated height range of normal humans from one of the books (it was something like 1.2-2.1 meters) and we bullshitted a random roll. She rolled almost max and so her height was 202cm or about 6'7". I did her name the way I do all Ecclesiarchy names- I took a disease and corrupted it until it sounded like a name.

>Callidia has ST 26 and just went up from TGH 25 to 30, squishy nurse.
She dumped Strength and Weapon Skill, though later augmentations changed that. Besides Fellowship, she primarily had Willpower, Agility and Intelligence going for her. The funny thing is she was only smart because the GM decided we still had starting gear despite our in-game rank, so I had her as a Hospitaler who wouldn't need great starting gear.

...it's funny, thinking about it in retrospect, so many of her details were determined by happenstance or just explaining away her weird origin path. I've gotten the chance to play her again in my current game with a very yes-and GM and it's gone places.

Why did the other three chaos gods spawn from early humanity? Wasn't there anything else between the end of the old ones+necron nap time and mankind?

>>96870794
Generally speaking, you're gonna get two different answers depending on the flavor of up their own ass the person answering is. The first is that Chaos is all-existing and neverending and was born purely from humanity and nobody else, they just exist beyond time and were born in the middle ages. The second is they were born gradually in the aftermath of the War in Heaven as society in the galaxy collapsed, probably Khorne or Nurgle first followed by the others.

>>96870794
Modern fluffs says they didn't spawn from us, but merely gestated for a fuckass long time since war in heaven and only manifested during our time, since humans turned out to have delicious thoughts and immediately took a liking.

>>96870794
But generally, warp sensitivity isn't a very common trait, believe it or not.
I think it's telling that even after chaos gods were born, they were relatively impotent in real space because they no followers to speak off aside from footnotes.

Human depth of emotion and warp sensivity is generally unmatched by anyone other than eldar.
And those had their own gods who were simply better.

Does anyone have any decent dungeondraft tilesets they can drop for 40k? Even anything particularly gothic I can work with.

>>96870838
>Human depth of emotion and warp sensivity is generally unmatched by anyone other than eldar.
I dunno about that. There's like multiple psyker species.

>>96870864
I expect it's more that we just don't see any seriously powerful psykers from other species, not that match the usual REEEEEE that librarians put out 'on camera' all the time, and we don't have an equivalent of the alpha plus horrors.

>>96870864
Yes, but doesn't necessarily mean they are valid.
Some races are aware of chaos and stay away, others are too prideful to worship anyone.

>>96871168
>Bingo for ants

>>96870785
>I've gotten the chance to play her again in my current game with a very yes-and GM and it's gone places.
Story time?

I don't like Dark Heresy and my players don't like Wrath and Glory.

>>96871530
Then stop posting variants of the same thing in this thread every day.

>>96871573
>every day
This is the first time ive posted here since I tried to homebrew my own 40k system and you guys called me retarded.
Fuck you guys.

>>96871530
Go play Imperium Maledictum, then.

>>96871530
Then fuck off. I hope your players burn you on a cross.

>>96868297
IIRC, Mechanicus had a random event that had the option of blasting chants in binary at full volume to disrupt the necrons.

>>96844397 (OP)
Idk whonat Cubicle7 decided we needed a second Astartes splat for Wrath & Glory and that it had it had to be Space Wolves but I want them castrated.

>>96871759
>>96871820
Here's your (You), trolls.

>>96871944
Samesies.

>>96871750
Aren't you the faggot who tried to crib from lancer of all things for RP?
We were happier without you.
>>96872145
No, that'd be (You) for posting the shittiest bait known to god and man. Look at that hook, man. It's bare metal. You didn't even spit on it.

>>96871944
>Idk whonat Cubicle7 decided we needed a second Astartes splat for Wrath & Glory and that it had it had to be Space Wolves
SW just got new models so GW said to make a spurcebook for them and feature them on the cover.

>>96872263
The fuck is there to crib from Lancer? Like, the concept of Grit die? Skill triggers? All of what Lancer has to offer is just simplifications of other systems. And I'm not out here trying to say that simple = bad and complex = good, but let's be straight here, none of it can be inserted into even the most basic of the 40k systems because all of them already have more complex character building than Lancer.

>>96872524
It's worse than that.
He tried to crib lancer's RP rules.

>>96872605
I'll be honest, I just flipped back through my Lancer PDF and I'm not sure what you mean if not grit and skill triggers. Maybe this is an advice section thing I missed or something because my group already knows how to RP and we just skipped it?

>>96872677
Lancer's RP rules don't exist. He's trying to copy something that doesn't exist.

>>96872723
What
My expectations for the explanation were low but you blew them out of the water holy shit

>>96872772
And he wonders why he was laughed out of the thread.

>>96872677
Yeah I wanted to use skill triggers
>>96872723
(You)

>>96873543
Oh my god you're serious

>>96873755
Trying too hard

Alright, ignoring the shitling guzzling dumbfuck juice in the corner, how did everyone's last session go?

>>96873755
At least the guy who posts retarded lore questions every day sometimes makes me think about it.
>>96874335
It was great, we visited Altdorf and got murdered by tragically misinformed halfling khaine cultists.

What? I like 40k, I just like to see other people here enjoying it even if I'm not playing.

>>96874335
Like the guy above me, it's actually fantasy and not 40k, but I'm using it to get them used to FFG systems before I draw them in to RT or DH.
Used one of the one-off adventures to introduce then and then followed it up with the Madmen of Gottheim, where they poisoned the Jabberslythe with nightshade to knock it out, and then threw a keg of lamp oil into the cave and set it on fire before waiting for it to die. I respected their tactical acumen to not fuck with the giant frog-dragon-thing. They made it to Ubersreik and got into some trouble with a local apothecary.

>>96874335
We were congratulated by four Throne Agents on a job well done and given autonomy on how to do next task (so no free money, grrr).

>>96874335
I introduced my players to four Throne Agents and gave them the worst curse of all. Independent operational authority. And I didn’t need to crib anything from a tranny game to make it interesting.

>>96874335
My group was sent after a particularly nasty Zoamthrope while sending off a trygon prime. They only had to call for fire support once before extracting with all Deathwatch agents alive.

>>96868401
Is there anything in the current roster that fits that description?
I love Homeworld and the Corvette class luv me Salvage 'Vettes, luv me Acoloytes 'ate Toiiidan, not racis' jus' don' loik em'. Simpol as.

>>96868440
I remember doing that fucking binary puzzle with folks from /vg/. Holy fuck that was almost a decade now. Help I'm falling into the time hole someone PLEASE

>>96868454
Edgier symphonic metal (think Septicflesh, not Nightwish).

>>96874335
Trying too hard

>>96874335
Bretty good, I almost killed my players by having them be slightly outnumbered by orks. Next session is the big finale of their first endeavor, I’m hoping to give the party tech-priest an opportunity to do emergency repairs.

>>96874897
Oh shit, is that an Enforcer class? Did they get their hands on one of those?
I'm still not sure whether those things have lances or bombardment cannons, I've seen both ways.

>>96874830
Buddhafuck, is that supposed to be an Acolyte? What happened? I uninstalled HW3 after finishing it so I never saw the DLCs.

Anyway, I had a surge of divine inspiration on my drive back from work today on how to handle their squadrons (just make it build a bear 5head), so I finished the draft of their rules. On paper, it seems fine, but they need some testing in a simulated or live environment eventually.

>>96874830
Buddhafuck, is that supposed to be an Acolyte? What happened? I uninstalled HW3 after finishing it so I never saw the DLCs.

Anyway, I had a surge of divine inspiration on my drive back from work today on how to handle their squadrons (just make it build a bear 5head), so I finished the draft of their rules. On paper, it seems fine, but they need some testing in a simulated or live environment eventually.

>>96875333
you were fated to delete the first post to acquire these digits
the DLC was an impulse buy, I wanted to see the Somtaaw ships. Honestly, they're not too bad, but they're only playable in that fuck-awful roguelike infinite mission shit. I was punished for my stupidity in buying the game at all. I never even touched the campaign, I had no interest in what I already knew was the product of a corpo rat-infested writing room.

The ship limits are garbage, as per usual, but the fun thing is that the somtaaw resource harvester is actually a fairly punchy ship, with a repair beam, ship-knapping harvester drones, and a fucking laser. They cap you at 3, otherwise I'd have 15 of the fuckers and nothing else, you can put two on resources and one on repairs/"thrift" with a mild escort in the early game, they won't automatically defend themselves while harvesting but can be swapped to attack mode manually.

the acolyes...do not gattai. nothing more needs to be said.
The acolyte, the harvester and a short range electro-shock frigate are all you get.

fuck Gearbox. fuck Randy, and fuck that pink-haired nepo-baby-back-bitch who made herself "IP manager" and ruined the project.

>>96874973
They’re fighting it, I figured something with a bombardment cannon would be a cool rival for their Star-flare lance.

sorry to continue on the off topic tangent but
>there was a homeworld mobile game
>it shut down last year
these doomed projects are springing up and shutting down faster than I can keep up with.
it's like watching the evil rain from death stranding hitting the stock markets.

>>96875333
why is some of it red

>>96875488
Timefall
Stockfall

>>96875448
My hottest take from HW3 is that it absolutely proves that all the people who whined and threw little bitchfits about HW2's story sucking are morons who ruined it for the rest of us. HW1 was already drenched in religious overtones and HW2 was just as logical of an extension of that as Cataclysm. HW3 is what you get if you take that same tone everyone's jerked themselves off over for years and take away all the grandeur, because it turns out the prophecy and sweeping mythos are actually fundamental to Homeworld, not something 2 invented. Strip it, and the characters rush in to fill the gap, which even without garbage corpo interference spells doom for your space opera.

>>96874335
Ran an Imperium Maledictum intro and combat test to see how the system handles itself. I encouraged the players to go at it deep and hard. They got overrun by cultists before long and cut down, the last one standing being the psyker who proceeded to push his powers twice on a row. Built up an absolutely massive warp charge and, after getting hit with the Fatigued condition from a crit and rolling with disadvantage to contain his power, proceeded to then roll the max result on Perils of the Warp.

I understand a little bit better now why Psykers need to be culled.

>>96871315
I'm no good at greentext, but I'll try my best.

Okay, so first of all, we made the jump to RT for this campaign, which changes some stuff about the character. She's now a Seneschal under the hood, because Missionary sucks. It's also important for other reasons because new origin path, but I'll try to limit myself to only one story. Since stats were rerolled, her Fellowship has actually increased a smidge to 72 and she's even smarter at 60 Int.

So the first thing you need to know about her is that she's inherently something of a maverick. She doesn't reject dogma, not remotely, but she's intent on making things her own- for instance, she's mostly dispensed with shouting and zealotry since joining the RT crew. The only reason she ever did it back at her convent was to avoid censure, and you'd be astounded by how easy it is to pass sleeping standing up for being deep in prayer. Battle litanies are no more faithful than a shopkeeper shouting slogans, she figures, and the bile she tasted when the street cleric fumble a basic rite is proof enough that it means nothing.

Now, it's that inherent need to test and improve on her faith, to integrate it more deeply than others that's led her to being very adept at connecting with other faiths. Huge Fellowship, after all, she's not just hot with big tits, she's frighteningly good at understanding other people, especially in a sector that's been isolated for several millennia and needs to reconnect with the mainstream faith of the Imperium. The campaign has also led to her interacting with techpriests a lot, and just like studying the text of a subcult, if you wanna respect them, you whip out their holy texts and show they mean something to you. Even if it's the Mechanicus.

And she really does mean it. She was Pronatus before she was attached to the Inquisition. Devotion and respect to relics must be in ALL their forms, even when it's mechanical in nature. Saints leave more than bloody cloaks...

>>96879209
This wound up going places by dint of impressing more than a few techpriests by her devotion to keeping relics pristine, her respect for technology and her relative deftness when it comes to talking to the admech. Almost like she's used to faking the lingo of organizations she's not a part of...

What's happening now is that her reputation is starting to snowball a bit by virtue of her being too good at her job. She's TOO charming, TOO deft and diplomatic- which has certainly enriched the dynasty, but...

The more zealous of our allies have already voiced slight disappointment with her for the level of consorting with the mechanicus she's up to. That sort of dick waving is going to get us into trouble if it starts affecting the bottom line.

But there's an even worse issue. She's honestly starting to see some value in Mechanicus teachings. She's already picked up more than a few augmentations to repair injuries and one notable gift.

If this gets any worse, and if a few overtures by the Mechanicus representatives pan out, she might become one of the greatest embarrassments to the Sororitas in millennia. I'm not sure it'd be as bad as a Miriael Sabathiel or anything, but I can't imagine it'd go over well for her to be the first Sororitas to actually receive formal training and be ordained as a techpriestess.

>>96845636
Any word on your colony book's completion status? I actually really like v4 for all that I'm just tooling around with it between runs rather than giving it a full playtest, it's a great lightweight book and seeing the bits where extra mechanics have obviously been sheared off makes me sad.

Will extraction of resources turn into PF at all or just a drain if you're not using them for crafting?

>>96882316
>Any word on your colony book's completion status?
The mechanics for colonies in their base state are basically done and haven't really changed. What you see in it is going to end up in Anarchy in the Galaxy basically unchanged. The only things that would be added are House of Korst'la colonies for Project TD and Votann colonies for Squatcraft, and I'm a touch busy with other stuff to consider those yet. There will also be "army lists" for each faction for mass combat, and that is going to be absolute suffering.

>seeing the bits where extra mechanics have obviously been sheared off makes me sad
>Will extraction of resources turn into PF at all or just a drain if you're not using them for crafting?
There should be no materials missing. Anything that refers to crafting, like resource extraction, is in Advanced Crafting, which will also go into Anarchy in the Galaxy basically unchanged, with the exception of a future quantity scalar so you can use resources for trading in and acquisitions (ex. Offering a stack of 300 ores for a bonus to acquisitions). What mechanics did you think were missing?

Outside of glaring errors, I wasn't planning on going back to Advanced Crafting or Colonies V4 for a while yet because I'm getting ramped up on the Drukhari Rework, and I keep getting new ship ideas.

>>96882403
>There should be no materials missing. Anything that refers to crafting, like resource extraction, is in Advanced Crafting, which will also go into Anarchy in the Galaxy basically unchanged, with the exception of a future quantity scalar so you can use resources for trading in and acquisitions (ex. Offering a stack of 300 ores for a bonus to acquisitions). What mechanics did you think were missing?

The separation was what I was talking about, there were a handful of rough spots I assumed would end up getting newer rules or grafts. And as for resources, stuff like, for example, the black hole observatory could potentially be pissing out free quality 10 radioactive resources you've got no real use for - I couldn't spot any provision for selling them.

>>96882433
Yeah, Advanced Crafting and Colonies V4 are Chapter 3 and Chapter 4 of the Anarchy in the Galaxy, and they were released piecemeal for testing purposes. I'll look to update Advanced Crafting with rules for selling RUs within the next week or so, when I have time.

Does anyone know of any adventure talent rewards, permanent character alterations to their mechanics, like Haarlock's Bane/Touched by Dark Fates in the end of the Haarlock adventure? Any of the FFG games, please. Also, is there a full list of 'xenos only' talents about in any of those? I'm mostly looking for psychic stuff, but I'll take what I can get. Aside from the obvious, like in supplements specifically for that species, anyway.

What is the life span of a servitor? Do they get sick? If they get injured on the job do they get cloned organ transplants?

Does the Jericho Maw gate still exist or did it get swallowed by the Maledictum?

Is there a chapter profile for the thousand sons that is compatible with Deathwatch?
>>96883545
It still exists, but the other end is probably buried in thr Hadex anomaly.
>>96883401
They're mostly mechanical. If the flesh breaks down they just get another. The brain is the important bit, they just replace the stuff that is long term cheaper to replace vs keeping it meat.

I need ideas for servitor for the ultra rich. What would the ultra rich have installed? Compartments for cosmetics? Speakers for music? How would it be dressed? I've only seen servitors in factories or battle barges, not sure what they would look like in a plush palace.

Which of the warp gods would empower a computer virus? Is that Nurgle or Tzeentch ?

>>96883775
Read up on scrap code.
>>96883694
It'd probably be hyperspecialised and appear either glaringly inhuman or as close to human as possible. Conspicuous consumption or a disdain toward the mechanical. A man/maid servant servitor would probably be someone fitted with the highest quality gear they could winkle out of the mechanicus and deploy everything the person needs - cosmetics, yes, possibly music, squirt perfume in the air, cushions, etc. Likely one that deploys boxes for the very powerful, putting them over things that noble dislikes the appearance of before the noble has to be distressed by viewing such a thing. Think of them as middle ages nobles in terms of dress style. One might be a cherubim aerie, allowing the cherubim in its back to go before its master, scattering shortlived petals and perfume wherever they walk. Etc.

>the debate on the number of machine spirits for the skapulan bolter
That got me wondering on how they view relics and the ship of theseus issue when it comes to maintenance and changing out parts like for the teeth or mechanisms for a chainsword or the barrels on guns. So far for viewpoints I have:
The machine spirit of the whole is damaged when the worn part is removed and will be complete if the new part is made properly and integration is done according to the proper rites
It is several machine spirits (per distinct part) and the union of such has to be finalized in battle

Has anyone statted out the guns the Mechanicus got in their tabletop debut?

>>96883694
Seconding the anon above. Also read the Janus Simulacra in DH1 Inquisitor's handbook: Servitors that emulate sentience dangerously close are a favoured plaything for the rich, and often keep the organic parts to a minimum to instead appear as animate works of art

>>96884058
>Has anyone statted out the guns the Mechanicus got in their tabletop debut?
Mars Needs Women

>>96874335
We

Made our throne agent fall off his chair when calling him and asking for 25k throne gelt as budget for our mission.
Best he could do was 15k, suboptimal.

Got cucked because the Lord Sector cockblocked the Arbites from going into the underhive and now theyre all pissed and wanting to take it on anyone. Meaning we couldnt get the tickets to Malfi yet.

Let Galen wander alone in the rain, which caused him into witnessing a noble get decapitated in the upper spires by a winged woman, the samurai type where the guy doesnt realize he's dead until his head falls off.
and
>God-Emperor, what hips
>That kind of look? The kind that must take careful breeding and expert care of ones body?
>Definetely someone of status

Galen shrugs of an Arbites takedown with an a Shock Maul, only the Arbitor is shocked, puts his hand on his shoulder and shows off the =][= badge.


I guess we're sidetracking and solving the Spire Stalker

>>96867764
>>96867854
>Acolytes aren't regular humans.
This is the most true statement. Acolytes are a different breed.

>>96882527
I really like the Kroot book you made btw. I want to get up to bullshit with the Tanglebomb Launcher.

I want to spice up my combat narration so it's just just "opponent shoots you, it bounces off, you shoot opponent, he explodes"
what's a decent book that has good descriptions of powered armor people fighting I can plagiarize from?

>>96887719
WET LEOPARD GROWL

>>96887719
Starship troopers, though it's pretty rare that you can a lot of it and "bullet bounces off". Find a PDF and look for the parts where he's fighting the skinnies and in training, mostly. Part of the final assault on Planet K too - for that one, try searching "GROUND AND FREEZE", probably preceeded by Blackguards or something. If you can't find that, something like "silly people bouncing around".

>>96887719
The Halo novels aren't too bad. Most of it is the kind of "bullet bounces off" or mixing in dodging/using cover or a thing as a shield though.

>>96887346
Good GMs don't allow xenos player characters.

Anyone got any cool ideas for monsters/puzzles/scenery for a Deathwatch mission in an Old One prison/science lab? The crew is max rank/renown, so any unfair bullshit is fair game. I figured I'd throw in some flesh horrors made of unfinished species, swarms of hostile security automata, maybe a dead Slann that can still nuke the party with mind bullets, but I also want to amp up the spook factor for the players.

>>96888058
You could steal stuff from SC2 ulnar missions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfG0HPhtXx4

>>96888058
They made heavy use of psytech, so random objects should ask politely if the players would like to engage the appropriate function even if they aren't of the 'progenitors'. Then just have the room do random shit - invert gravity, spawn lizard birthday cakes, whatever.

Shoggoths are always good, though they should be passive unless attacked.

>>96888058
The biggest things my teams run into against Old Slann is bio-compatibility - Slann systems are designed to key into their rates and their biologically-altered races, such as aeldari and slannspawn. Baseline humans will be accepted, but do Space Marines count enough? Up to you to answer. My feeling is they do but you may differ. It may be hard if that lightbridge doesn't pop up or that hardlight console needs first-order Warrior-Servant access, or it calls in the Slannspawn, Spindle Drones, Guardian Drones, or worse, the Armigers.

If it's a science lab, there's likely a long-dead mummified Relic Priest within, and his psychic bullshit is probably top tier. Arcane Unforging (in TFiY) melts high-armor characters, and my players learned to fear it. One creepy thing about Old Slann facilities is how...pristine they look. Polished silver wraithsteel, shining blue, orange, and red conduits, and transparent hard glass everywhere, damaged on the outside from gauss and particle fire during the War in Heaven, and untouched inside where the Necrons could not access. Vast empty pits into planet depths with wraithsteel structures floating above, following 65 million year directives with no clear way to access. Systems that still work flawlessly after a quarter of a galactic rotation. The search for a facility Cartographer through maze-like passages that all look the same (until someone realizes that conduits ALWAYS pulse towards one). Ancient phase pulse generators that need to be swapped around to power webway portals deeper into the structure. The constant sights through the corner of oculars of lights in the distance, as the Spindle Drones and Armigers watch carefully, preparing...

>>96888058
Steal old OSR modules and scale them up so the traps and gimmicks have the same effect on a space marine the source material has on a lv 1 adventurer.

Just reminding you, y'all are stuck up.

>>96888395
Anon, I am gonna be your best friend here for a moment and help you move on with your life, because you are clearly obsessing over a small slight against your non-existent character. This is not a forum with an attached profile, the only means other anons recognize you is the obsession. Okay, so you had an idea and everyone else rejected it because they found it retarded. That happens, so if you want to continue with that project so much you can just bring it somewhere else that's more receptive to it than here.

Or, you can just not mention it and focus on the other aspects of whatever you're working on, because if you just remove the thing that's recognizable you do not need to hear people calling you a faggot for pulling bad rules that you like out of a tranny game that you like. You can just walk away and it ends. You have no obligation to us or to yourself concerning this at all. You are only wasting your own time and energy obsessing over it.

If you want to continue seething over it, feel free to. It will result in the same thing, over and over, and anons will take glee in calling you a retard and a faggot. But you do not have to, and you can just stop caring about it and it will stop completely. It is genuinely that easy. All you have to do is recognize that you are on an anonymous imageboard about mongolian basketweaving and it will magically disappear.

Even if you are the kind of subhuman that unironically uses "y'all".

https://youtu.be/t6XJb3NtWno?si=QYJ6jotO02Lw7bC0

“They’re complaining they haven’t got anywhere to sit down… but does any of them want to try taking their spiked armor off, just for a bit? Of course not,”

Fucking beautiful.

>>96844397 (OP)
Bit of a random question, but I can't think of anywhere better to ask;

Does anyone know of a roll-and-write/solo rpg system that revolves around solving crimes/mysteries that might be thematically compatible with 40k without too much hassle?

Was just thinking of running a solo one-shot Inquisitor themed investigation, and was curious if a system for it might already exist.

>>96888185
This way ages ago, years, really, when I stopped checking this place on the regular. Did you make a 40k lizardman splat? I seem to remember something like that

>>96890893
Yeah, there's some Slannspawn in The Fringe is Yours, based on the WHF8e Lizardman Codex and 3e Necron Codex. The psychic stuff and rules in there for the Old Slann evolved through multiple series, and there will be a lot more in Anarchy in the Galaxy.

>>96891089
Very nice. That pic I saw when you first started talking about of the saurus with a gun has been living rent free in my head since

>>96889810
There's always GUMSHOE, anon.

>>96888836
Thanks anon. I'll take your advice.

>>96892053
Glad to hear it. See you, space cowboy.

>>96891089
Hey Shas, in writing some rules for Aetern Sector stuff I'm wanting to include a few Skitarii maniples. Would you have any objections to me generating them using Mars Needs Women and including them in the book? I'd also likely be assembling a couple custom Advanced Specialties for Skitarii.

>>96893397
Shouldn't be anything stopping you. That's what the tables are there for, after all.

>>96844397 (OP)
My group has come to me with an idea. A retelling of the Great Crusade/Horus Heresy, but some of the Primarchs are player characters, to see how taking specific people down a different path could change things. Their origins and natural talents would be the same, Fulgrim still arrives on Chemos, Russ is still raised by "wolves," Guiliman is still the only one with a mother, but after that is when the story diverges. So far no one has expressed interest in taking over the roles of Lorgar or Horus, so the Heresy itself is still on track. I know it sounds very fanfictiony, but it also sounds like it could be fun. The issue is, I'm not sure what 40k game, if any, is actually up to the task.

>>96845303
>I think plasma shotguns are fine
>but snipers and revolvers? That's just silly
I have never once asked if a glob launcher needed to be anything else.
I'd look at the keywords used for close range weapons that aren't shotguns if you want a plasma gun that somehow hits harder close up.

Working on a Death Watch hack for Wrath & Glory. How would you dickheads denote different chapters? A Talent at the start, or maybe a free Archetype Ability?

>>96845194
Tolerated mutation that's just a super power the author really wants to play with, ie "Wulfen successor chapter but people are cool with it" or "Blood Angel that gets wings."

>>96845303
IDK, if a player came to me with an idea for a plasma pistol variant that had a revolving chamber as a kind of safety feature to prevent overheating, but as a tradeoff it has to be reloaded like a normal revolver, I'd probably allow it. Certainly not the worst idea I've heard.

>>96893877
Never mind, Foundry is shit at showing the rulebook. Apparently there are chapter traits. Cool.

>>96845194
>>96845546
This guy made this just to post it for reddit upboats. You can find it on 40krpg

>>96894088
I imagine he shared it everywhere he had a presence, because he was proud of the cool thing he'd made.
You might know that if you'd ever had any accomplishments you could take pride in.

>>96893867
>>96893894
What I've noticed is that these kinds of homebrew weapons are always complex-ass gismos. I'm guilty of it in my own homebrew. It's never "this is a plasma gun but a bit different", like with Bolters or las weapons. It's always, always "I will now proceed to outlandishly reinvent the plasma wheel."

>>96894088
I made it to post on /tg/, and figured "what the hell, maybe this'll be memeable enough that I can see it reposted on terrible Facebook pages without credit 10 years down the line."

>find bible
>decide to check a few things
>maranatha anathema (The accursed lord cometh)
>hazeroth and paran, a horrible wasteland of rebellion and heresy
>tau cross represents the guy who started the christian monk movement that sought to work together for the 'greater good'
>psyker duels for the favour of god
>whipping the j- I mean, tzeentchian cultists out of the temple

Gentlemen. I have made the single most important 40k lore discovery in history: They stole piles of it from the bible. You're shocked, I know. Stay tuned as I hunt out the gnostic gospels to find the bit where Jesus did Passover for the Father by kicking down the Egyptian's doors in MK4 power armour.

>>96896386
>comorragh
Yeah GW was not subtle at all. Let me know if there's any Islam stuff thok that would be surprising

>>96896881
Weeeellll,

The Islamic antichrist in his truest form is an absolutely jacked one eyed sorcerer with reddish skin. Dajjal - yes, he's in league with the jews. Sound familiar? For all that they're superficially egyptian, they've got a light brush of muslims and a much deeper core of zoroastrianism. The name translates to deceiver or liar, which is incorrect because we all know that our red friend never lies to anyone, and especially not himself.

Also, he's got a giant donkey! I like to think that's Ahriman in universe.

>>96844397 (OP)
Where do I get started with I want to run rogue trader?
Any tips and tricks other game masters want to share?

>>96896918

The core book adventure is fine. Not great, but fine. There's a web adventure that's also good, name escapes me. Read through the rules, try and think how you'd run the intro adventure as a player and common ways you'd run through them and rtry to write down contingencies. The rules are not intimidating, they just look that way - it's mostly d100+/- modifiers, roll under. Just ask your players to write down modifiers as they get them, and do it yourself.

Space combat is a pain in the arse but it'll work, be sure to have something physical there to map it out because conceptualising the space is hell. After a few sessions, look up math hammer rules for weapons.

The colony rules in stars of inequity are a disaster, and if you must generate a system use a generator to do it for you, it can unironically take hours. I usually just have a grab bag of cards ready if I need a random planet - pick a colour, then pick a card for a random noun. "Planet of the Red Trees" and then come up with some bullshit, like they're red because the iron in the bark rusts or whatever and now there's rust storms.

An NPC navigator is a good way to steer the players around if nobody actually plays one, because they tend to have some input on the ship's doings if the captain isn't stupidly wealthy and powerful.

>>96896904
>Ahriman is a giant ass

>Crom dwells on a great mountain. What use to call on him? Little he cares if men live or die. Better to be silent than to call his attention to you..He is grim and loveless but at birth he breaths power to strike and slay into a man's soul.
>There is no hope here or hereafter in the cult of my people.In this world men struggle and suffer vainly, finding pleasure only in the bright madness of battle; dying, their souls enter a gray misty realm of clouds and icy winds, to wander cheerlessly throughout eternity.
>Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame in crimson, and I am content

Replace Crom with Khorne and the gray misty realm with a soul burning up in the fires of unreality and it would be a neat concept for a Xurant like Khornate barbarian culture.

>>96896936
Thanks for the help fren

>>96896936
There's a real handy generator that does all the rolls for you.
https://github.com/TiLT42/RogueTraderGeneratorTools

>>96896960
I always assumed that Chaos theology near universally sees the afterlife as something to be feared, rather than idealized like in other religions. The grunts might be fanatically suicidal but those who are at least somewhat aware about the Warp know better. That's why daemonic ascension or just immortality in general is the highest aspiration, rather than being taken by their gods after death.

>>96900049
There's a reason that people really try to earn either daemonhood or some form of life extension/immortality. Shit sucks, and being consumed by the gods is less than ideal for anybody.

>>96900187
What's that even like? Eternal, agonizing torment? Being snuffed out and totally annihilated? I mean, if your soul is consumed it feels like the latter and that's not particularly bad. It would mean that there's no afterlife, you just stop existing

>>96900377
You are KILL BY DEMONS

>>96900377
I don't know if they ever go into detail about it. Most of my specific knowledge of warhammer afterlives is from Fantasy where there is a specific afterlife and gods/entities that protect the dead. In 40k, outside of the Eldar who we specifically know about what happens after they die (being eaten by She who Thirsts) but they don't do a whole lot for the other races. It probably involves being killed/eaten/worse by daemons as soon as your soul pops into the warp, and then likely either eaten and snuffed our or used as a plaything by a sufficiently powerful greater daemon if you caught their attention in life.

How does autofire work with Dual-Shot? Nothing in DH1 corebook says it doesnt, neither how it does.
So is it just one attack roll and both shots hit as the same amount of degreees? Which each degree being two shots landing?

>>96900377
It's doubtful that daemons are humane and strive to minimize suffering when consuming souls. Also, time works differently in the Warp, so the idea that being consumed is only a finite amount of suffering that eventually ends is probably not true. In fact, souls might be inexhaustible since the most well known example of a soul being annihilated permanently is Horus and that was treated as a big deal with the Emperor pulling out all the stops. Granted, that could just be a thing with Primarch souls specifically and not your average joe who ends up in the Warp after death.

>>96900436
nvm the c'tan shard answered and its single shot only

>>96900377
Most souls are weak and fray into ambient warpstuff almost immediately after death. Strong souls, like psykers, last long enough to be chewed on. Serving the ruinous powers all but guarantees that you're going to be caught by a daemon and soul-flensed for as long as possible, and having a claim on your soul will probably keep you around long enough for whatever marked you to take its sweet time.

Is there any twin-linked stubbers in Dark Heresy 1e? I have a mighty need for double autoguns.

>>96900654
Sucks to be a strong soul then. Good thing I'm retarded and thus immune to both corruption and eternal torment.

Game night got delayed again…

>>96900049

Plague Gardens and skull mountains are neat but I feel they are focused on too much. The Xur are a good example their theology imo focuses too much on getting snatched up to Khornate heaven.

I've always liked this fluff from the 4th edition CSM codex

>The Chaos Space Marines abhor the thought of a half-life locked away inside the imprisoning womb of a Dreadnought, where they can no longer see battle with their own eyes or feel the kick of a bolter in their fist..better to die and find final release in the surging maelstrom of the warp.

I think I prefer the treatment in pic related or the Conan quote I posted rather than chaos worshiping barbarians having the full skinny on the chaos gods and their realm in the warp aside from them having a different name like Baptur or Flibfamble.

>>96900662
Strangely, no. I think the first hint of twin linked is actually in Rogue Trader? +20% to hit, twice the ammo, double reload time, extra hit per two DoS on the attack test.

>>96901285
>chaos worshiping barbarians having the full skinny on the chaos gods and their realm in the warp aside from them having a different name like Baptur or Flibfamble.

Maybe they don't know they do. You're worshipping Kharnath, Lord of Definitely Honourable War and Not Random Bloodshed, and over generations your tribe just starts changing pronounciation absent any real reason why until they're calling him Tzeentch or whatever.

>>96900872
Hey man, look on the bright side! I'm getting a ton done on my next project!

>>96901526
To add on to this, there are cases of Karanath/Khorne, Tchar/Tzeentch, Neiglen/Nurgle or Shornaal/Slaanesh being localized deity names for the main four in Nordland and norse regions for Fantasy. It makes a lot of sense from how linguistic drift occurs or how they change because of various cultural influences.

Are the Tau still on their 'lol genocide' lore, or has that been changed again? Also, any good lets plays/novels in the tau empire? Looking for day to day life on the gue'vasa to build on.

>>96902455
Elemental council. A space marine character's warzone and mindset collapses because of one human choosing to show empathy to a wounded xenos.

>>96901526
Gyrinx kittens?! So cute!

>>96902481

Is that the one with the Kasrkin who joins the Tau for Fishussy but still holds the god emperor in his heart like the jesuit dude in Silence?

>>96902604
No. An Ethereal is stabbed by an imperial assassin, and drifts down the river. Tau sympathizers, an old woman and her grandkids, choose to show human empathy and nurse him back to health. He recovers, and is able to return to his command and stop the war from escalating against the civilians of the planet, which is what the Space Marine was counting on to start a rebellion.

>>96902641

its the blue man's burden every time.

What are some good noncombat encounters for a spec ops team laying the groundwork for a planetary invasion? I'm struggling for ideas that aren't strictly combat right now.

>>96902872
Sabotage fuel and ammo dumps with explosives
Recon of forces, static defenses, and any plans the defenders have
Contact with possible sympathetic turncoats

>>96902872
Creating locations for supply caches, sabotage of key figures to replace them with retards (or assassination), formenting rebellion of the commons.

>>96902872

Clandestine warfare. Urban Guerrilla type shit i.e setting up safe houses/caches, stealing important intel, stealthily kidnapping/assassinating notables, sabotaging vox networks or orbital weapons (including turning people as agents to do it themselves or setting up your own "liberation" cells) etc.

Remember shit like venom nails, explosive collars, injectors, haywire/hallucinogen grenades, demolition/disguise/forgery kits, comm leaches, signal jammers, scrap code generators and sceamers/stummers aren't just there for fluff they let you act as either Solid Snake or the Provisional IRA depending on your play style.

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>>96902933
>>96902984
Thanks lads, it's appreciated, I'm designing my first Only War campaign right now and my lack of experience is showing.

>>96903021
Consider getting the astra militarum codex, going to the Crusade section, and reading through stuff there. It's the thematic / storytelling section for an army. It can help you set up and get ideas for missions, commendations, requisitions and agendas for your team. A lot of the secondaries will be shidding and farding over this, but it really is helpful.

>>96903142

On a similar note of inspiration the OG kill team rules in the 4th edition 40k rulebook have a lot of narrative fluffy stuff giving example objectives, maps, storylines etc that may be catnip for his OW adventure.

When tech priests get wounded do they bleed or leak oil or whatever? Given that they systematically remove their organic parts I don't think it makes sense to bleed much.

>>96868095
Faith has real power in 40k. Metal retellings of the Imperium's triumphs being blasted on full volume by an army of zealous space marines could easily put fear into heretics and loosen any daemons' grip on reality. You could even use this flavor to fluff a tabletop Death Guard army as loyalists, just replace their diseases with music that increases in volume in rounds 2 and 3. And bring a JBL to demoralize your opponent, obviously.

Does anyone remember the term for human soul turned warp entity, but NOT a full blown daemon? I'm trying to figure out where I've seen the concept before and I think it starts with a G.

>>96904245
Whatever gets hit leaks.

>>96904245
I mean it depends a lot. Some are full metal, some are brain in jars, some are almost full meat, at least on the outside. Maybe they don't bleed blood if hit in the flesh but some other fluid, but they definitely do bleed. Could be like the marines where they can stem any hemorrhage, but maybe not. Out of all the shit in the imperium, the admech is the most varied and anything goes, literally

Do we have any cannon record of someone with the Pariah gene having kids as the mother OR father? Would the hypothetical child carry the Pariah gene?

Now that the dust has settled, what's your ultimate take on this bad boy? Is it a worthy investment?

>>96904478
No. There is canon speculation that the strongest pariahs might kill the mother from their aura before birth, leading to their own death. But even Bequin was never up the duff.

>>96904542
Not worth it. It's bland, shallow keyword spam slop that makes D&D 5e look inspired and fascinating. When IM makes the universe seem more vibrant and mechanically is the superior system (and it is garbage compared to *anything* else that isn't WanG or GURPS, do not mistake me) you have a problem.

>>96904555
Oh, and the power levels are really dumb. I'm not even going to explain that, just spend ten minutes checking out the various stat examples. It really needed some focus. I'm almost afraid to see what C7 did to the new Laundry Files RPG edition - they're currently batting one out of three for their rpgs.

>>96904555
>GURPS
>garbage
You kiss the Emperor with that mouth?

A couple of questions, what the difference between Imperium Maledictum and Wrath & Glory?
Also, with the recent release of TOW, would you like to see a Warhammer 30k RPG?

>>96905718
An official 30k RPG is already coming. We can finally stop discussing the 30k homebrews.

>>96904555
I'm not up to snuff with the specifics of eldar craftworlds, what is going on with saim-hann?

>>96905747
>An official 30k RPG is already coming
I simply don't believe you. sauce?

>>96906081
https://www.enworld.org/threads/cubicle-7-announces-new-horus-heresy-rpg-for-warhammer.712134/

>>96904573
...what was the one that was good? I was under the impression IM and WANG were disliked.

>>96906254
The original stuff. Dark Heresy.

>>96906254
What do people dislike about IM? Bought the book this week and just starting to page through it. Resolve vs superiority seem kinda arbitrary for bonuses and not something I'm all that interested in tracking.

>>96906213
The fact that you're making two to three characters per player for it makes me leery.

>>96906820
they realized that the best part of the game is chargen

>>96906213
I shan't trust any new rpg about Warhammer that isn't from FFG

>>96906552
It's just Dark Heresy but streamlined to death. Which is fine if you're allergic to crunch and boring if you're not.

What's wrong with WANG?

>>96907748
it sucks cock

>>96906552
Without repeating my previous 'review' of it and the mechanics: Most of my whinge about WanG holds, but it's also managed to annihilate all the equipment variety in exchange for adding in keywords that you pay extra for, make even basic mooks feel like bullet sponges (I think a basic mook takes three lasgun shots to put down? It's been a bit, can't really remember, sorry), make combat feel almost random at times and somehow make psykers even less useful. Oh, and they need an editor desperately. One who is being paid more than minimum wage and has the authority to make actual changes.

>>96907748
Lightweight, lots of streamlining, no actual character, iffy mechanics, too broad. You don't feel like you're playing a 40k game, you feel like you're playing a reskin of another system.

>>96905915
They're the white scars but awesome-r. FOR SAIM HANN
FOR HONOUR
FOR SAIM HANN
FOR HONOUR

Short version, they have listened to their farseers once: To abandon the empire before the fall. After that they decided that shit was for little girls and the word of a farseer has slightly less weight than redlining your jetbike - fucking awesome, but what if you can go faster instead? They spend their time getting their cocks out to wave at Ulthwe farseers, picking fights with Necrons who are bothering exodites (or bothering literally nobody because fuck the Necrons) and going F A S T. They're sort of like buddhist biker maniacs, actually. Ascendance through wisdom, speed and violence.

Also they seriously can't stop poking Necrons. It was a big thing in.. I'm pretty sure it was one of the ynnari books?

>>96908110
Wild Rider, that's the book. The Ynnari wanted something, and one of the potentates of Saim Hann wanted to fuck the Wych that Yvraine had sent as a diplomat, so naturally the potentate immediately signs up the entire craftworld FOR HONOUR and also seggs.

But basically they're slightly less civilised white scars. Speed freaks and easily amused.

>>96906518
But that wasn't C7, unless I'm completely high? That was Black Industries and FFG.

Are astartes taught diplomacy? They go to so many worlds I wonder if they are taught how to avoid conflict with different human cultures.

>>96908179
Did he get to fuck the wych

>>96911221
>>96906254
WFRP4e. It's not perfect, but it's still got that 2e flavour. It wasn't great when it came out but it was pretty tolerable, and lots of core books have ironed out the wrinkles. Desperately needs a better equipment system though.

>>96911968
Most Chapters don't rule directly the world they have control over, they intentionally stay as distant as possible to not influence the local cultures with their presence.
Apart from that, they don't really need diplomacy since they are venerated as demigods by basically all human cultures within the Imperium. It would be more of a matter of the astartes adapting to the local cultures so they don't spook them too much and avoid needless violence, but Astartes are also supposed to be extremely intelligent so it would be easy for them to pick up the most important cultural cues quickly

>>96911968

Depends on the chapter but generally space marines know enough to interact with imperial governors and sidestep their political games. Some are eloquent and well schooled in retoric while others like Grimaldus are just about holding it together and not spilling their transhuman spaghetti.

Plus they can declare people traitoris and execute them.

>>96911968
They are probably not formally taught it like they are war, but politicking, and thus diplomacy, occurs within the chapter and without. Probably Captains and beyond will have to start learning whose toes they can step on and who they can't within the larger Imperium. Despite thoughts to the contrary, chapters do not have unlimited power. They rely on interconnected logistics chains, arouse inquisitorial ire, and squabble over ancient oaths; sometimes these diplomatic disputes boil over—see Badab.

>>96911968
They kinda are in DW, at least in so much to surprise and kill tau.

Huh, are DW errata Tyranid weapons too weak? The devourer seems completely useless against marines. They soak 16/18 damage and the max damage is 19 with 0 pen

>>96911968
Diplomacy is technically not a skill on the Deathwatch character sheet, but DW does have social skills/talents/abilities for a reason. Playing as an Ultramarine and/or Tactical Marine makes those social boosts pretty cheap and desirable. They work great for tard-wrangling Imperial military officers, bureaucrats, inbred nobles, feral cavemen, and NPC marines of other chapters.

>>96916810
Don't they usually have hordes? Those give another few d10's depending on size, right?

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